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Page 1: The Great Debate The central question of the period: How strong (and big) should the national government be?

The Great DebateThe Great Debate

The central question of the period:

How strong (and big) should How strong (and big) should the national government be?the national government be?

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For consideration…

What are the factors that create an imbalance of power within a culture?

What is the relationship between freedom and responsibility?

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The Federalist No. 10 The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection

By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.

There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests.

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It could never be more truly said than of the first remedy, that it was worse than the disease.

Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an ailment without which it instantly expires.

But it could not be less folly to abolish liberty, which is essential to political life, because it nourishes faction, than it would be to wish the annihilation of air, which is essential to animal life, because it imparts to fire its destructive agency.

The second expedient is as impracticable as the first would be unwise. As long as the reason of man continues fallible, and he is at liberty to exercise it, different opinions will be formed.

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As long as the connection subsists between his reason and his self-love, his opinions and his passions will have a reciprocal influence on each other; and the former will be objects to which the latter will attach themselves.

The diversity in the faculties of men, from which the rights of property originate, is not less an insuperable obstacle to a uniformity of interests. The protection of these faculties is the first object of government.

From the protection of different and unequal faculties of acquiring property, the possession of different degrees and kinds of property immediately results; and from the influence of these on the sentiments and views of the respective proprietors, ensues a division of the society into different interests and parties.

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Issue 1:

Does the government of the Articles need to be replaced?

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Yes: Federalist Alexander Hamilton: “The faith, the reputation, the peace of the whole Union are thus continually at the mercy, the prejudices, the passions, and the interests of every member of which it is composed. Is it possible that foreign nations can either respect or confide in such a government? Is it possible that the people of America will longer consent to trust their honor, their happiness, their safety, on so precarious a foundation?…The Confederation…is a system so radically vicious and unsound, as to admit not of amendment but by an entire change in its leading features and characters.”

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No: Anti-Federalist Patrick Henry: “The honorable gentleman said that great danger would ensue if the Convention rose without adopting this system. I ask, where is that danger? I see none. Other gentlemen have told us, within these walls, that the union is gone, or that the union will be gone.…Till they tell us the grounds of their fears, I will consider them as imaginary.…Where is the danger? If, sir, there was any, I would recur to the American spirit which has enabled us to surmount the greatest difficulties.”

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Issue 2:

Can a republic govern a large territory and a diverse population?

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Yes: Federalist James Madison: “Extend the sphere, and you take in a greater variety of parties and interests; you make it less probable that the majority of the whole will have a common motive to invade the rights of other citizens.…Hence, it clearly appears that the same advantage which a republic has over a democracy, in controlling the effects of faction, is enjoyed by a large over a small republic.…”

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No: Anti-Federalist James Winthrop of Massachusetts: “It is the opinion of the ablest writers on the subject, that no extensive empire can be governed on republican principles, and that such a government will degenerate to a despotism.…No instance can be found of any free government of any considerable extent.…Large and consolidated empires may indeed dazzle the eyes of a distant spectator with their splendour, but if examined more nearly are always found to be full of misery.”

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Issue 3:

Will the new constitutional government create an aristocratic power in the presidency?

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No: Federalist Alexander Hamilton: “There is no comparison between the intended power of the President and the actual power of the British sovereign.…The President of the United States would be an officer elected by the people for four years; the king of Great Britain is a perpetual and hereditary prince.…What answer shall we give to those who would persuade us that things so unlike resemble each other? The same that ought to be given to those who tell us that a government, the whole power of which would be in the hands of the elective and periodical servants of the people, is an aristocracy, a monarchy and a despotism.”

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Yes: Anti-Federalist George Clinton of New York: “Wherein does this president, invested with his powers and prerogatives, essentially differ from the king of Great Britain (save as to the name, the creation of nobility and some immaterial incidents…)? The safety of the people in a republic depends on the share or proportion they have in the government; but experience ought to teach you, that when a man is at the head of an elective government invested with great powers, and interested in his reelection…appointments will be made by which means an imperfect aristocracy bordering on monarchy may be established.”

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Issue 4:Does the proposed Constitution protect the people’s liberty?

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Yes: Federalist Alexander Hamilton: “Here, in strictness, the people surrender nothing; and as they retain everything they have no need of particular reservations.…Bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous.… Why declare that things not be done which there is no power to do?…the truth is…that the Constitution is itself, in every rational sense, and to every useful purpose, a BILL OF RIGHTS.”

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No: Anti-Federalist George Mason of Virginia: “There is no declaration of rights: and the laws of the general government being paramount to the laws and constitutions of the several states, the declarations of rights, in the separate states, are no security. Nor are the people secured even in the enjoyment of the benefit of the common law, which stands here upon no other foundations than its having been adopted by the respective acts forming the constitutions of the several states.”

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Charles Beard, An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution (1913).A view of the Constitution as a conservative “counterrevolution”:

“The concept of the Constitution as a piece of abstract legislation reflecting no group interests and recognizing no economic antagonisms is entirely false. It was an economic document drawn with superb skill by men whose property interests were immediately at stake; and as such it appealed directly and unerringly to identical interests in the country at large.”

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Gordon Wood, The Creation of the American Republic (1969).A view of the Constitution as the extension of republican political theory:

“Because new ideas had grown often imperceptibly out of the familiar, the arguments the federalists used in 1787–88 never really seemed disruptive or discontinuous. Americans had been prepared for a mighty transformation of political thought by a century and half of political experience telescoped into the rapid intellectual changes that had taken place in the three decades of the Revolutionary era.…

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Americans had destroyed the age-old conception of mixed government and had found new explanations for their policies created in 1776, explanations that rested on their expansion of the principle of representation. America had not discovered the idea of representation, said Madison, but it could ‘claim the merit of making the discovery the basis of unmixed and extensive republics.’”

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For consideration…

Why was Beard’s view of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers so shocking when it first appeared? What would be the implications if Beard were correct?

Does Wood’s view fit Beard’s critique of those who see the Constitution as “a piece of abstract legislation reflecting no group interests”? What would Wood see as the “interests” of the Founding Fathers?