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The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was in the aerospace industry with Boeing/McDonnell-Douglas in St. Louis, MO. Currently, he designs laser electronics for Cutting Edge Optronics, Inc. in St. Charles, MO. His primary astronomy interests are observing, ccd imaging, and astronomy related software development.

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Page 1: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

The

Aut

hors

-D

avid

Hal

l

●D

avid

Hal

l is a

n El

ectri

cal E

ngin

eer d

esig

ning

el

ectro

nic

circ

uits

for a

lmos

t 30

year

s. M

ost o

f th

at ti

me

was

in th

e ae

rosp

ace

indu

stry

with

B

oein

g/M

cDon

nell-

Dou

glas

in S

t. Lo

uis,

MO

. C

urre

ntly

, he

desi

gns l

aser

ele

ctro

nics

for

Cut

ting

Edge

Opt

roni

cs, I

nc. i

n St

. Cha

rles,

MO

. ●

His

prim

ary

astro

nom

y in

tere

sts a

re o

bser

ving

, cc

d im

agin

g, a

nd a

stro

nom

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late

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ftwar

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velo

pmen

t.

Page 2: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

The

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chem

ical

indu

stry

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orks

for T

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re in

St.

Loui

s, M

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sts a

re

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rvin

g an

d ph

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raph

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cd a

nd 3

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m).

Page 3: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

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iece

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ting

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rimen

t

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iece

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t los

s in

your

tele

scop

e.

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e co

atin

g ef

fect

iven

ess

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elen

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Page 4: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

Wha

t do

the

term

s mea

n?

●C

oate

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sing

le-c

oate

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ne a

ir-to

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ss

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ace(

ATG

S) is

coa

ted

with

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ngle

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ctio

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ial,

usua

lly M

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lly C

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ll A

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sing

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yers

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sing

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oate

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not

coa

ted.

●Fu

lly M

ultic

oate

d: a

ll A

TGS

are

cove

red

with

mul

tiple

co

atin

gs.

Page 5: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

Sing

le C

oatin

g (M

gF2)

●Tr

ansm

issi

on d

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dent

on

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trate

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dex

of

refr

actio

n, th

ickn

ess o

f the

coa

ting,

and

ang

le o

f the

inci

dent

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t

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oatin

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des

igne

d so

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ift b

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eren

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Page 6: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

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Page 7: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

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Page 8: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

How

do

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know

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ting

is

wor

king

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dver

tised

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if co

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of 5

50 n

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r 137

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ould

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ance

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he th

ickn

ess i

s crit

ical

!!!!

Page 9: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

The

Expe

rimen

t

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sing

an

optic

al b

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en

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re

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ce o

f a

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ty o

f eye

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Hal

l had

acc

ess t

o th

e ne

cess

ary

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pmen

t at

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t CEO

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rs.

Page 10: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

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n th

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ting

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hole

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eam

.

Page 11: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

Expe

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tal L

imita

tions

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und

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ll th

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ht

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mm

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lts sh

ould

be

take

n w

ith a

gra

in o

f sa

lt.

Page 12: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

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Page 13: The Authors - David Hall - Cloudy Nights · The Authors - David Hall David Hall is an Electrical Engineer designing electronic circuits for almost 30 years. Most of that time was

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