TEST YOUR FIREFIGHTING TEST YOUR FIREFIGHTING KNOWLEDGEKNOWLEDGE

BY: GARY EDWARDSBY: GARY EDWARDS

Before we beginBefore we begin

• This presentation is not to be used as This presentation is not to be used as a means of finding fault or insult our a means of finding fault or insult our fellow brethren, but to be used as a fellow brethren, but to be used as a tool to recognize where we can tool to recognize where we can improve our own skills and abilities in improve our own skills and abilities in order to order to

• STAY SAFESTAY SAFE……

WHAT DO YOU SEE WRONG WHAT DO YOU SEE WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE ?WITH THIS PICTURE ?

Here is what others had to Here is what others had to saysay• Day 1 Stuff, Bell goes off jacket goes on i bet he shat his pants Is Day 1 Stuff, Bell goes off jacket goes on i bet he shat his pants Is

this guy an idiot? How about that stupid ass Chief watching this guy an idiot? How about that stupid ass Chief watching him .Do I hear the circus coming? Must be some yahoo him .Do I hear the circus coming? Must be some yahoo department. goes against what we're taught hey people, OMG U department. goes against what we're taught hey people, OMG U HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME... IS THAT THEIR POLICY TO FIGHT HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME... IS THAT THEIR POLICY TO FIGHT STRUCTURE FIRES WITH RED SUSPENDERS? CAN WE SAY HEY STRUCTURE FIRES WITH RED SUSPENDERS? CAN WE SAY HEY GUBBER COME DOWN FROM THERE! FOUR FIREFIGHTERS ONE GUBBER COME DOWN FROM THERE! FOUR FIREFIGHTERS ONE SCBA...NO MASKS..WHERE IS IC? Personal protective gear is SCBA...NO MASKS..WHERE IS IC? Personal protective gear is extremely important, and in a situation like that it is not extremely important, and in a situation like that it is not something to joke about. Where is the safety officer? just like a something to joke about. Where is the safety officer? just like a chief to sit there and watch. Hey Chief think you should say chief to sit there and watch. Hey Chief think you should say something? Two other Nimrods, one without a helmet or gloves something? Two other Nimrods, one without a helmet or gloves and the other without a jacket, helmet or BA. Okay, maybe one and the other without a jacket, helmet or BA. Okay, maybe one explanation is this: The guy on top of the ladder and the one below explanation is this: The guy on top of the ladder and the one below (w/o the helmet with scba) were fighting the fire from INSIDE when (w/o the helmet with scba) were fighting the fire from INSIDE when it simply became too hot to stand... and at that moment they had it simply became too hot to stand... and at that moment they had to bail out. On the porch or on his way down the first one loses his to bail out. On the porch or on his way down the first one loses his helmet, the second one can't stand the heat anymore and throws helmet, the second one can't stand the heat anymore and throws off his BA, helmet and vest on the porch because they are burning off his BA, helmet and vest on the porch because they are burning hot... Then he jumps onto the ladder to get out of there (you can hot... Then he jumps onto the ladder to get out of there (you can see his feet aren't even ON it)... I don't see anything coming out of see his feet aren't even ON it)... I don't see anything coming out of the roof and I don't think it would be rolling like that if the roof was the roof and I don't think it would be rolling like that if the roof was vented. These guys give redneck fire departments a bad name.. vented. These guys give redneck fire departments a bad name.. So i guess the helmet is optional in his department... So i guess the helmet is optional in his department...

What could be done What could be done differently?differently?

What others thinkWhat others think• It would behoove him to make himself a loop for It would behoove him to make himself a loop for

support...would be easier on him, at least his balls support...would be easier on him, at least his balls • There should be more than one person on that line and like There should be more than one person on that line and like

others have said there should be more than one line in others have said there should be more than one line in service service

• The FF is probably tired and knows he isn't moving for a The FF is probably tired and knows he isn't moving for a while. A keely coil would be helpful, but when you get your while. A keely coil would be helpful, but when you get your chance to do what he's doing, you'll understand why he's chance to do what he's doing, you'll understand why he's like that. There's probably a bunch of other streams in like that. There's probably a bunch of other streams in service, coming from tower buckets, aerial ladders, or other service, coming from tower buckets, aerial ladders, or other master stream sources. Lastly, the rest of the crew is master stream sources. Lastly, the rest of the crew is probably catching a break for a moment, or like most FDs, probably catching a break for a moment, or like most FDs, doesn't have enough personnel to get all the jobs done. doesn't have enough personnel to get all the jobs done.

• Believe it or not, sitting on the hose like that does not hurt, Believe it or not, sitting on the hose like that does not hurt, it is awkward and uncomfortable but it definitely don't hurt it is awkward and uncomfortable but it definitely don't hurt and would not throw you around. Its general physics, even and would not throw you around. Its general physics, even looping it once then sitting on it would reduce enough looping it once then sitting on it would reduce enough pressure to be comfortable to sit on, without feeling like pressure to be comfortable to sit on, without feeling like being lifted up... being lifted up...

What could be done What could be done differently?differently?

What others thinkWhat others think

• GOT AIRPACKS (SCBA) ? GOT AIRPACKS (SCBA) ?

• A HOSELINE READY WOULD BE NICEA HOSELINE READY WOULD BE NICE

• A SAFETY HARNESS OFF THE A SAFETY HARNESS OFF THE PLATFORM MAY SAVE HIS LIFE IF PLATFORM MAY SAVE HIS LIFE IF ROOF COLLAPSESROOF COLLAPSES

What could be done What could be done differently?differently?

What others have to sayWhat others have to say

• BIG FIRE = BIG WATER BIG FIRE = BIG WATER

• Lets think about this... Fully involved Lets think about this... Fully involved to you left, Surround and Drown, to you left, Surround and Drown, protect the buildings to either side(s) protect the buildings to either side(s) with a large diameter hose/appliance with a large diameter hose/appliance

• Dangerous to straddle the line, both Dangerous to straddle the line, both should be on same side.should be on same side.

What’s wrong with this What’s wrong with this picture?picture?

What others have to sayWhat others have to say

• WHERE'S THE SCBA C'MON GUYS WHERE'S THE SCBA C'MON GUYS THIS IS WHY WE GET HURT!! THIS IS WHY WE GET HURT!!

• 2 fog lines would work better2 fog lines would work better

• Are those jeans?Are those jeans?

What’s wrong with this What’s wrong with this picture?picture?

What others have to sayWhat others have to say

• How about that trickle coming out of How about that trickle coming out of that Blitzfire?that Blitzfire?

• The problem could have been the The problem could have been the hydrant was bad, an the truck had hydrant was bad, an the truck had too many lines off of it...that could too many lines off of it...that could add up to a trickle out of the blitz add up to a trickle out of the blitz gungun

• It’s a goner, protect surroundingsIt’s a goner, protect surroundings

What could be changed What could be changed here?here?

What others had to sayWhat others had to say

• it looks like someone needs to grab a it looks like someone needs to grab a hoseline hoseline

• no helmet, no SCBA and back turned no helmet, no SCBA and back turned to the fire...either a probie or a chief to the fire...either a probie or a chief

What’s wrong here, What’s wrong here, and its not the obviousand its not the obvious

Here is what others didn’t Here is what others didn’t seesee

• Hose man, where are your glovesHose man, where are your gloves

• Backup person, interesting way to Backup person, interesting way to hold the hose, but if it works???hold the hose, but if it works???

What do you think?What do you think?

Here is what others had to Here is what others had to saysay

• WHY ARE THERE 5 GUYS ON THAT WHY ARE THERE 5 GUYS ON THAT ROOF C'MON GUYS..THIS IS WHY WE ROOF C'MON GUYS..THIS IS WHY WE GET HURT!!! GET HURT!!!

• Well a couple were making entry and Well a couple were making entry and two were going to the peak and two were going to the peak and another was holding the ladder for the another was holding the ladder for the men on the peak doing ventilation men on the peak doing ventilation

Take a guess what needs Take a guess what needs changechange

Others sayOthers say• if i was that guy i would have a pack if i was that guy i would have a pack

on . (SCBA)on . (SCBA)• at least pull your shield down at least pull your shield down • don't know if its lack of experience don't know if its lack of experience

but if that were me I would have an but if that were me I would have an air pack and mask on, and be a little air pack and mask on, and be a little farther away from the tank farther away from the tank

• I agree with you guys about the I agree with you guys about the safety items but maybe he just safety items but maybe he just wanted to light a smoke? wanted to light a smoke?

The truth isThe truth is

• That was an LP training That was an LP training burn, the camera man is burn, the camera man is making it look like he’s making it look like he’s a lot closer than he a lot closer than he really is, the tank has a really is, the tank has a huge hole in the bottom huge hole in the bottom with a LP pipe going up with a LP pipe going up through it, also notice through it, also notice the fog pattern behind the fog pattern behind him, this firefighter is him, this firefighter is fine and in no danger at fine and in no danger at all all

What could help here?What could help here?

Some saySome say

• A hose line in case something goes wrong A hose line in case something goes wrong would be a definite assetwould be a definite asset

• Roof ladders, they're not just for traction Roof ladders, they're not just for traction any more. They distribute your weight to any more. They distribute your weight to help keep you from going through the help keep you from going through the roof. The FF doing the cutting may be on roof. The FF doing the cutting may be on one and you can't see it. The other FF is on one and you can't see it. The other FF is on the peak of the roof which is generally a the peak of the roof which is generally a little more solid little more solid

Remember learn and liveRemember learn and live

•THE ENDTHE END

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