“take me to your leader!” who takes the decisions in the church of england and in the methodist...
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““Take me Take me to your leader!”to your leader!”
Who takes the decisions in the Church of England and in the Methodist Church?
Who’s in charge in your Who’s in charge in your church?church?• Bishop?• Your Vicar?• The Minister?• The Stewards?• The congregation?• An unelected elite?• …God?
In a healthy churchIn a healthy churchResponsibility for the life and
mission of the church will have three aspects
PersonalPersonal CollegialCollegial CommunalCommunal
A Group A Group or Teamor TeamAn IndividualAn Individual EveryoneEveryone
Every denominationEvery denomination
has these three aspects ofleadership or oversight
(The churchy word is “episcopé”)
But they show up But they show up
in different waysin different ways
The Methodist ChurchThe Methodist ChurchPersonalPersonal CollegialCollegial CommunalCommunal
CONFERENCECONFERENCE
Circuit MeetingCircuit MeetingSuperintendentSuperintendentMinisterMinister
Minister + StewardsMinister + Stewards
Circuit Circuit Leadership TeamLeadership Team
District SynodDistrict Synod
Church MeetingChurch MeetingMinisterMinister
Chairman of Chairman of DistrictDistrict
Salmon = most influenceGreen = less influenceThick border = primary responsibility
The Church of EnglandThe Church of EnglandPersonalPersonal CollegialCollegial CommunalCommunal
General SynodGeneral SynodHouse of House of BishopsBishops
Diocesan SynodDiocesan Synod
ArchbishopArchbishop
PCCPCCIncumbentIncumbent
BishopBishop
Deanery SynodDeanery SynodRural DeanRural Dean ChapterChapter
Salmon = most influenceGreen = less influenceThick border = primary responsibility
What a contrast!What a contrast!PersonalPersonal CollegialCollegial CommunalCommunal
Church of England on the right
Methodists on the left
Cut out the ‘less Cut out the ‘less influential’influential’
PersonalPersonal CollegialCollegial CommunalCommunal
Church of England on the right
Methodists on the left
There’s no There’s no
‘opposite number’
‘opposite number’
at any level at any level
for anyone to talk to!
for anyone to talk to!
In short:In short:• ConferenceConference and General SynodGeneral Synod have
similarities but– The Church of England is not a Connexion– The House of Bishops has a significant role outside Synod
• DiocesesDioceses, where power and resources mostly lie, find that DistrictsDistricts are relatively insignificant
• CircuitsCircuits, where responsibility and decision-making mostly lie, find that DeaneriesDeaneries have little to do
• In ParishesParishes and local Methodist churcheslocal Methodist churches the culture is markedly different:– The incumbent has a personal responsibility – ‘the cure of souls’– In the local Methodist church, the ‘itinerant’ minister works
collegially with the Stewards
Practical realitiesPractical realities
What Anglicans decide at diocesan level,
Methodists decide at circuit level
or else
at the level of the whole Connexion
So who do they talk to?So who do they talk to?
• The diocesan bishops and their resource people ... ?
• The superintendent minister and the circuit stewards ... ?
• The incumbent and the Methodist church stewards ... ?
• What adjustments must we all make to allow joint planning and joint decision-making?
We know there are many We know there are many things we can and should things we can and should be doing jointlybe doing jointly
What new mechanisms do we both need to deal with the mismatch
and start planning mission together?