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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/17/2011 11:26:54 PM
Subject: new
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-16-11.xlsx
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Bridget Vandeventer
Bruce Rytkonen
Tutrecia Giles
Date: 4/17/2011 11:30:36 PMSubject: Revised process and timeline chart 4/16/11
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-16-11.xlsx
Hi everyone,
Attached is the revised Tobacco Process and Timeline chart.
I have made the changes we discussed on Friday and added some new Communications tasks, per Bridget.
Also, I have asked Jaime to find a different meeting room for our standing Friday meetings, per Steve. So, look for
an email from Jaime to this effect. Note- no changes in date and times, just location.
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Frank Dibiase
Date: 4/18/2011 12:12:12 PM
Subject: Draft PP for BOH Study Session
Attachments: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Hi Frank,
Attached is a draft powerpoint for BOH study session on Wednesday. I kept it short/succinct.
Wanted to bring in the questions brought forth at the last BOH meeting on FDA’s position and past TPCHD Tobacco
policies. Then lead into a quick overview of the main points of the e-cig resolution with conversation. Then the
same with local SIPP resolution. End with next steps. Please note the snapshot of the FDA video- if you can
watch it, that would be great. I think it would be good to play for the Board. It’s less than 4 minutes. Please let
me know what you think. I can modify based on your suggestions today.
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Program Coordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Frank Dibiase
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/18/2011 2:26:06 PM
Subject: FW: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Attachments: e-cigs letter to BOH April 2011.doc
TAPmission, bylawsmay2010.doc
resume april 2011.docx
FYI
From:TawanaBellamy
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:37 AM
To:Cindy DeGrosse ([email protected]); Cindy Leingang ([email protected]);Cindy
Willis ([email protected]); Connie Perry ([email protected]); DickMuri ([email protected]);DO Stan Flemming ([email protected]); Jake Fey ([email protected]); Leslie Swalley
([email protected]);MarilynStrickland ([email protected]); MarkWilliams
([email protected]); Pat McCarthy ([email protected]); Patricia Johnson ([email protected]);
RebeccaSullivan ([email protected]);Rick Talbert ([email protected]); Ron Lucas
([email protected]); Victoria Woodards ([email protected]); 'Patricia Johnson'
Cc: Anthony Chen; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase
Subject: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Good morning Board of Health Members,
I'm forwarding you some additional information from Heidi Henson, Tobacco-Free Alliance of Pierce. She spoke at
the April 6th BOH meeting. Please read the E-cigarettes letter to the BOH April 2011 document first.
Thank you.
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant II
Office of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
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From: Heidi Henson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:36 PM
To: TawanaBellamy
Cc: Frank Dibiase
Subject: Board of Health
Hello Tawana,
Please forward this email with the attachments to the all the members of the Board of Health.
Thanks somuch,
Heidi Henson
253.223.7538
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From: Steve Marek
To: Jaime Paulson
Date: 4/18/2011 11:58:54 AM
Subject: FW: Revised process and timeline chart 4/16/11
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-16-11.xlsx
Could you print a color copy of this. Thanks.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 8:31 PM
To: SteveMarek;FrankDibiase; Bridget Vandeventer; Bruce Rytkonen; '[email protected]'; TutreciaGiles
Subject: Revised process and timeline chart 4/16/11
Hi everyone,
Attached is the revised Tobacco Process and Timeline chart.
I have made the changes we discussed on Friday and added some new Communications tasks, per Bridget.
Also, I have asked Jaime to find a different meeting room for our standing Friday meetings, per Steve. So, look for
an email from Jaime to this effect. Note- no changes in date and times, just location.
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/18/2011 3:00:24 PMSubject: LocalSmoking Regs
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 041811.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 041811.docx
I have attached new drafts of the Local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. These drafts (dated April 18th)
incorporate the changes discussed at Friday’s meeting as well as the changes recommended in recent emails.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: 'TanyaMcClain'
'Sue Asher - PCMS'
Date: 4/18/2011 12:19:30 PM
Subject: May 2011 TPCHD column
Attachments: PCMS May 2011_FINAL.doc
Hi Tanya and Sue,
Hope you two are doing well and enjoying some sunshine! Attached is Dr. Chen's column for this month's newsletter.
Could I possible get on your mailing list to receive a copy each month as well?
Thanks,
Bridget Vandeventer
Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Tawana Bellamy
Date: 4/18/2011 1:19:22 PM
Subject: RE: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
Thankyou-
-----Original Message-----
From:TawanaBellamy
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:18 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject:RE: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
HiKirsten,
I sent you the approved minutes from the March BOH meeting. The minutes from the April meeting are not
approved yet and I'm still editing them. I have attached a copy of the audio recording of the April meeting. Let me
know if you have problems opening it.
Thanks.
Tawana
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:07 PM
To: TawanaBellamy
Cc: Frank Dibiase
Subject:RE: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
Tawana- thankyou for sending!
I just took a look through the minutes to get some information about comments made by a couple of BOH members
regarding our upcoming Tobacco legislation. However; I didn't see them referenced in the minutes. Am I able to get
a copy of the audio recording of the meeting?
Also, I did see extensive minutes from Kim Thompson of the Vaporium expressing her views on the upcoming e-
cigarette regulation. However; I understand that there were 2 other speakers (Heidi Hanson and Leonard
Sanderson) who also provided testimony. I did not see this reflected in the minutes...... I'm thinking that they need to be included to be consistent - Frank?
Thanks, Kirsten
-----Original Message-----
From:TawanaBellamy
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:17 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
Kirsten,
Here are the minutes from the March BOH meeting.
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Thanks,
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant II
Office of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
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From: Tawana Bellamy
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/18/2011 1:18:24 PM
Subject: RE: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
Attachments: 040611BOHminutes.msv
HiKirsten,
I sent you the approved minutes from the March BOH meeting. The minutes from the April meeting are not
approved yet and I'm still editing them. I have attached a copy of the audio recording of the April meeting. Let me
know if you have problems opening it.
Thanks.
Tawana
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:07 PMTo: TawanaBellamy
Cc: Frank Dibiase
Subject:RE: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
Tawana- thankyou for sending!
I just took a look through the minutes to get some information about comments made by a couple of BOH members
regarding our upcoming Tobacco legislation. However; I didn't see them referenced in the minutes. Am I able to get
a copy of the audio recording of the meeting?
Also, I did see extensive minutes from Kim Thompson of the Vaporium expressing her views on the upcoming e-
cigarette regulation. However; I understand that there were 2 other speakers (Heidi Hanson and Leonard
Sanderson) who also provided testimony. I did not see this reflected in the minutes...... I'm thinking that they need to
be included to be consistent - Frank?
Thanks, Kirsten
-----Original Message-----
From:TawanaBellamy
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:17 PMTo: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Emailing: 030211BOH MINS
Kirsten,
Here are the minutes from the March BOH meeting.
Thanks,
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant IIOffice of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
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From: Steve Marek
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/18/2011 4:37:32 PMSubject: RE: LocalSmoking Regs
Thanks Greg. I appreciate your quick turn-around on these. We have a meeting on Friday to discuss so please get
comments to Greg soon and cc the rest of us.
Just a reminder that these are still draft and not for distribution at this time. Please do not share with community
partners, other staff not directly involved in this effort etc. We will be going public in near future and can share withothers then. Thanks. Steve.
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:00 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: LocalSmoking Regs
I have attached new drafts of the Local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. These drafts (dated April 18th)
incorporate the changes discussed at Friday's meeting as well as the changes recommended in recent emails.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: ElizabethPulos
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/18/2011 12:17:32 PM
Subject: RE: PCMS article
I am beginning to realize that you may be the most helpful and smartest person in this building, Liz. Thank you so
much!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: ElizabethPulos
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:54 AM
To: Bridget Vandeventer;Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: PCMS article
Bridget,
The 1965 value is also from the National Health Interview Survey. Here's a link to a page showing values 1965-2009.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/tables/trends/cig_smoking/index.htm
Nationally, 42% of adults smoked in 1965[a1] <> but this rate dropped to 24% a decade ago and 21% in 2009.
In the sentence above, the 24% value is for 1999, a decade before the most recent figures (2009). It should
probably say "in 1999" instead of "a decade ago" to be accurate.
Liz
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:45 PM
To: Elizabeth Pulos; KirstenFrandsen
Subject: RE: PCMS article
Hi Liz and Kirsten,
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Attached is the draft of the PCMS column with Dr. Chen's edits. He made quite a few changes, but I think the
direction is still the same and it does push appropriately on the e-cigarette issue.
Liz- he added a stat from this site (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html) about adult smoking rates in
1965. It cites the CDC, but I can't find the original report anywhere. I'm hesitant to include it without an accurate
source. Can you help me? If it's not this source, do you think we can find one that makes a similar point?
Thank you!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:02 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc:ElizabethPulos
Subject: PCMS article
Hi Bridget,
Attached is the revised article for PCMS. Thanks to Liz for the statistics. Liz, I am cc:ing you as I had a quick
question about one of the statistics you sent. You mention a 12% overall decrease but the numbers you provided
(24% v. 21%) suggest only a 3% decrease.....
Thanks, Kirsten
_____
I couldnot find the original source, but this is from http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.htmlwhich cites CDC
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From: ElizabethPulos
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/18/2011 3:26:00 PM
Subject: RE: PCMS article
Thanks. Now I can only disappoint...
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:18 AM
To: Elizabeth Pulos; KirstenFrandsen
Subject: RE: PCMS article
I am beginning to realize that you may be the most helpful and smartest person in this building, Liz. Thank you so
much!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: ElizabethPulos
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:54 AM
To: Bridget Vandeventer;Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: PCMS article
Bridget,
The 1965 value is also from the National Health Interview Survey. Here's a link to a page showing values 1965-2009.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/tables/trends/cig_smoking/index.htm
Nationally, 42% of adults smoked in 1965[a1] <> but this rate dropped to 24% a decade ago and 21% in 2009.
In the sentence above, the 24% value is for 1999, a decade before the most recent figures (2009). It should
probably say "in 1999" instead of "a decade ago" to be accurate.
Liz
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:45 PM
To: Elizabeth Pulos; KirstenFrandsen
Subject: RE: PCMS article
Hi Liz and Kirsten,
Attached is the draft of the PCMS column with Dr. Chen's edits. He made quite a few changes, but I think the
direction is still the same and it does push appropriately on the e-cigarette issue.
Liz- he added a stat from this site (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html) about adult smoking rates in
1965. It cites the CDC, but I can't find the original report anywhere. I'm hesitant to include it without an accurate
source. Can you help me? If it's not this source, do you think we can find one that makes a similar point?
Thank you!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:02 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc:ElizabethPulos
Subject: PCMS article
Hi Bridget,
Attached is the revised article for PCMS. Thanks to Liz for the statistics. Liz, I am cc:ing you as I had a quick
question about one of the statistics you sent. You mention a 12% overall decrease but the numbers you provided
(24% v. 21%) suggest only a 3% decrease.....
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: ElizabethPulos
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/18/2011 11:53:32 AM
Subject: RE: PCMS article
Bridget,
The 1965 value is also from the National Health Interview Survey. Here's a link to a page showing values 1965-
2009.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/tables/trends/cig_smoking/index.htm
Nationally, 42% of adults smoked in 1965[a1] <> but this rate dropped to 24% a decade ago and 21% in 2009.
In the sentence above, the 24% value is for 1999, a decade before the most recent figures (2009). It should
probably say "in 1999" instead of "a decade ago" to be accurate.
Liz
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:45 PM
To: Elizabeth Pulos; KirstenFrandsenSubject: RE: PCMS article
Hi Liz and Kirsten,
Attached is the draft of the PCMS column with Dr. Chen's edits. He made quite a few changes, but I think the
direction is still the same and it does push appropriately on the e-cigarette issue.
Liz- he added a stat from this site (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html) about adult smoking rates in
1965. It cites the CDC, but I can't find the original report anywhere. I'm hesitant to include it without an accurate
source. Can you help me? If it's not this source, do you think we can find one that makes a similar point?
Thank you!
Bridget Vandeventer
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253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:02 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc:ElizabethPulos
Subject: PCMS article
Hi Bridget,
Attached is the revised article for PCMS. Thanks to Liz for the statistics. Liz, I am cc:ing you as I had a quick
question about one of the statistics you sent. You mention a 12% overall decrease but the numbers you provided
(24% v. 21%) suggest only a 3% decrease.....
Thanks, Kirsten
_____
[a1] <> I could not find the original source, but this is from http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html which
cites CDC
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From: KirstenFrandsen
To: Tutrecia Giles
Date: 4/18/2011 12:40:40 PM
Subject: RE:Purchase e-cigarette
Thanks Tutricia!
Could I take a look at it? I'll share with Steve/Frank. Perhaps we can share at the Study Session on Wednesday?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:40 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: Purchase e-cigarette
I purchased a e-cig starter kit from 7/11. Let me know what you would like me to do w/ it.-tg
Tutrecia Giles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:30 AM
To: TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Purchase e-cigarette
Thanks!
_____
From: Tutrecia Giles
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:14 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Re: Purchase e-cigarette
The starter kits are about $79.99. I get one today.-tg
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:57:43 +0000
To: TutreciaGiles
Subject: Purchase e-cigarette
Hi Tutricia, Steve would like us to have a sample e-cigarette (perhaps kit?)
Would it be possible for you to purchase and have the department reimburse you?
Just let me know- thanks! Kirsten
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From: Tutrecia Giles
To: KirstenFrandsen
Date: 4/18/2011 12:41:28 PM
Subject: RE:Purchase e-cigarette
Sure, I'll bring it to you.-tg
Tutrecia Giles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:41 AM
To: TutreciaGiles
Cc: Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase
Subject: RE: Purchase e-cigarette
Thanks Tutricia!
Could I take a look at it? I'll share with Steve/Frank. Perhaps we can share at the Study Session on Wednesday?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:40 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: Purchase e-cigarette
I purchased a e-cig starter kit from 7/11. Let me know what you would like me to do w/ it.-tg
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Tutrecia Giles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:30 AM
To: TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Purchase e-cigarette
Thanks!
_____
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:14 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Re: Purchase e-cigarette
The starter kits are about $79.99. I get one today.-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:57:43 +0000
To: TutreciaGiles
Subject: Purchase e-cigarette
Hi Tutricia, Steve would like us to have a sample e-cigarette (perhaps kit?)
Would it be possible for you to purchase and have the department reimburse you?
Just let me know- thanks! Kirsten
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From: Tutrecia Giles
To: KirstenFrandsen
Date: 4/18/2011 12:39:38 PM
Subject: RE:Purchase e-cigarette
I purchased a e-cig starter kit from 7/11. Let me know what you would like me to do w/ it.-tg
Tutrecia Giles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:30 AM
To: TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Purchase e-cigarette
Thanks!
_____
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:14 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Re: Purchase e-cigarette
The starter kits are about $79.99. I get one today.-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:57:43 +0000
To: TutreciaGiles
Subject: Purchase e-cigarette
Hi Tutricia, Steve would like us to have a sample e-cigarette (perhaps kit?)
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Would it be possible for you to purchase and have the department reimburse you?
Just let me know- thanks! Kirsten
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Frank Dibiase
Date: 4/19/2011 12:20:20 PM
Subject: FW: Study Session PP
Fyi only-
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:00 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: Study Session PP
Slide 2:
* Do we want to call them Tobacco Regulations? I'm on the fence because e-cigarettes don't have tobacco.
Slide 4:
* I'd add something about the really old one where we said that cigarettes couldn't be sold to minors. It reminds them
that it wasn't always the case and shows some history in our efforts.
Slide 7:
* I'd put "Regulation" or "Resolution" in the title so it's clear we're now talking about what we're trying to pass and
not the product itself.
* I think we need to be really careful with the word smoking. Technically, when you're using an e-cigarette you are
not smoking. The opponents will use other verbs, so we need to be careful.
* On the last bullet, I'd say "Prohibits marketing activities such as sampling or heavy discounts designed to attract
new and younger users.
Slide 8:
* The con sticky should have the same size font as the pro.
* The con is a little unclear to me. Maybe "Difficult for smokers who are using e-cigarettes to quit smoking."
* I'd call it "Cons" and not concerns.
Slide 10:
* Same comment re: Cons
And then overall, I'm not wild about the slide design. I actually like the color, but I don't like how the logo doesn't
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blend into the background on the bottom right. A standard, nice looking PPT template is on my to-do list.
Finally, I see the Communications Plan bullet on the last slide. Do you need me to present or just briefly talk about
the plan?
Thanks!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:46 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Study Session PP
Hi Bridget, in anticipation of the Study Session tomorrow, would you mind taking a quick look at this powerpoint?
Any suggestions/edits appreciated!
Just an fyi about the "sticky note" slides. This is going to be interactive- I'll have real sticky notes, pens and large
sticky paper on the walls. The intent is to get the pros and concerns about the major components of each of the 2
regs. Each member will be asked to write their thoughts and we'll cluster their thoughts into themes. Will help us to
understand the big issues so we can address them in our process/strategy development.
Thanks for any assistance you can give- Kirsten
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From: Frank Dibiase
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/19/2011 1:11:36 PM
Subject: RE: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
HiKirsten,
I replied below in red.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:30 AM
To: FrankDibiase
Subject: RE: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Hi Frank, thanks for the feedback. I made the changes that you suggested however; I'm stuck on one of them. The
comment re: moving the e-cigs/SIPP slides before the Answer Your Questions slides (on FDA position and BOH
Tobacco policies). I understand your point, but the FDA point directly leads into the conversation about the e-cigs
and may give folks some thought before we engage in discussion. The BOH tobacco policy piece can go anywhere
but think they should stay together.
So, I left the order, as is, but I added the 2 proposed regulations to the first slide to make it clear what we were
discussing so they won't get distracted. I can present in a way that the "questions" piece is just a "side" piece but
important for the conversation. How does this sound to you? If you still want me to move the slides, I can do that. I
think this is fine. I think it's important to remind Board members up front the main purpose of the discussion.
Incorporating the info in the 2nd slide works well.
Attached are the slides with all of your suggested changes except the one discussed above. Just let me know.
Also, regarding email to get back to Becky Sullivan- you should have received an email of which I bcc:d you. I
asked Allison for a one to two paragraph summary of her findings regarding the reasons why low income/priority
populations have higher rates of smoking. She gave me some articles but no summary- I asked her to get this done
by 10 AM today. Not sure whether this is going to get done and how well. Do you want to go with what we've got
or wait until I hear back from Allison to see what we've got? I did see that email. I think you can probably use the
info in the first paragraph Allison prepared. I think that covers it adequately.
I'll share with Bridget this AM. Green sheet? I saw your email with Bridget's comments. I don't think it needs to go
through the green sheet process, but once we get Anthony's comments and incorporate them into the presentation, it
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might be good to have Anne Dillon review the slides. She may have formatting suggestions. Are you planning to go
with just handouts or actually project the presentation?
Thanks.!
Thanks! Kirsten
From: FrankDibiase
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:39 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
HiKirsten,
I like the presentation and like that it's short and to the point. I think the FDA video is great. I made a couple of
suggested changes using a comment box for some of the slides.
Nice job! Thanks.
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Frank Dibiase
Date: 4/19/2011 9:29:40 AM
Subject: RE: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Attachments: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Hi Frank, thanks for the feedback. I made the changes that you suggested however; I'm stuck on one of them. The
comment re: moving the e-cigs/SIPP slides before the Answer Your Questions slides (on FDA position and BOH
Tobacco policies). I understand your point, but the FDA point directly leads into the conversation about the e-cigs
and may give folks some thought before we engage in discussion. The BOH tobacco policy piece can go anywhere
but think they should stay together.
So, I left the order, as is, but I added the 2 proposed regulations to the first slide to make it clear what we were
discussing so they won't get distracted. I can present in a way that the "questions" piece is just a "side" piece but
important for the conversation. How does this sound to you? If you still want me to move the slides, I can do that.
Attached are the slides with all of your suggested changes except the one discussed above. Just let me know.
Also, regarding email to get back to Becky Sullivan- you should have received an email of which I bcc:d you. I
asked Allison for a one to two paragraph summary of her findings regarding the reasons why low income/priority
populations have higher rates of smoking. She gave me some articles but no summary- I asked her to get this done by 10 AM today. Not sure whether this is going to get done and how well. Do you want to go with what we've got
or wait until I hear back from Allison to see what we've got?
I'll share with Bridget this AM. Green sheet?
Thanks! Kirsten
From: FrankDibiase
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:39 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
HiKirsten,
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I like the presentation and like that it's short and to the point. I think the FDA video is great. I made a couple of
suggested changes using a comment box for some of the slides.
Nice job! Thanks.
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Frank Dibiase
Date: 4/19/2011 1:14:48 PM
Subject: RE: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Thanks for all.
I am revising based on your/Bridget comments and will send to you and Steve in prep for the meeting with ACtoday. I’ll ask Anne Dillon to stand by tomorrow to do a final touch. I plan on having pp plus handouts if you
agree.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Frank DibiaseSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:12 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Hi Kirsten,
I replied below in red.
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:30 AMTo: Frank DibiaseSubject: RE: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Hi Frank, thanks for the feedback. I made the changes that you suggested however; I’m stuck on one of them.
The comment re: moving the e-cigs/SIPP slides before the Answer Your Questions slides (on FDA position and
BOH Tobacco policies). I understand your point, but the FDA point directly leads into the conversation about thee-cigs and may give folks some thought before we engage in discussion. The BOH tobacco policy piece can go
anywhere but think they should stay together.
So, I left the order, as is, but I added the 2 proposed regulations to the first slide to make it clear what we were
discussing so they won’t get distracted. I can present in a way that the “questions” piece is just a “side” piece but
important for the conversation. How does this sound to you? If you still want me to move the slides, I can do
that. I think this is fine. I think it’s important to remind Board members up front the main purpose of the
discussion. Incorporating the info in the 2nd slide works well.
Attached are the slides with all of your suggested changes except the one discussed above. Just let me know.
Also, regarding email to get back to Becky Sullivan- you should have received an email of which I bcc:d you. I
asked Allison for a one to two paragraph summary of her findings regarding the reasons why low income/priority
populations have higher rates of smoking. She gave me some articles but no summary- I asked her to get this
done by 10 AM today. Not sure whether this is going to get done and how well. Do you want to go with what
we’ve got or wait until I hear back from Allison to see what we’ve got? I did see that email. I think you can
probably use the info in the first paragraph Allison prepared. I think that covers it adequately.
I’ll share with Bridget this AM. Green sheet? I saw your email with Bridget’s comments. I don’t think it needs to
go through the green sheet process, but once we get Anthony’s comments and incorporate them into the
presentation, it might be good to have Anne Dillon review the slides. She may have formatting suggestions. Are
you planning to go with just handouts or actually project the presentation?
Thanks.!
Thanks! Kirsten
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From: Frank DibiaseSent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:39 PMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: DRAFT BOH February 20 Tobacco Study Session.pptx
Hi Kirsten,
I like the presentation and like that it’s short and to the point. I think the FDA video is great. I made a couple of
suggested changes using a comment box for some of the slides.
Nice job! Thanks.
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From: Frank Dibiase
To: Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Steve Marek
Date: 4/19/2011 8:11:42 PM
Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed inTacomaMall
Great information. Steven Helm is Darlyne Reiter's son. Darlyne was a former media specialist in our department
who worked with Joby Winans.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; SteveMarek; FrankDibiase; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
Thank you for the informationTutrecia.
I wonder if Steven would be interested in sharing what you have written below at the June 1 BOHmeeting.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:02 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
I saw a complaint on an e-cig forum website from a person who said that they were unable to smoke their e-cig in
the Tacoma Mall. I went to the mall today and met w/ Steven Heim, the mall's general manager, he said that it was
true. He said all Simon Malls (300 facilities) across the country are smoke free and that means you can't smoke
anything in the mall. He said he had done research on the product and understood that e-cigs contain nicotine, which
is highly addictive. This was curious to me because e-cigs are sold in the Tacoma Mall. He said that the kiosk rental
manager rented a space to an e-cig retailer w/out his previous approval. He said he told her "you might as well have
rented the space to a heroin dealer."
He called his corporate head quarters and was told that he was correct in banning the use of the item in the building.Steven stated that there is a no smoking sign at every door, and the company applies this policy to all smoking. They
have no plans of adding an addendum to their current code of conduct to specifically state "no smoking of e-
cigarettes". If customers want to smoke an e-cig, they can go outside and stand 25feet from the door.
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He said that the mall is a family oriented establishment and want to project that image. Allowing the smoking e-cigs
throughout the mall would contradict that image. He stated that was the main reason why the Tinder Box smoke shop
is no longer located in the mall.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
'Gregory Jacoby'
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 7:37:34 PMSubject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed inTacomaMall
Thank you for the informationTutrecia.
I wonder if Steven would be interested in sharing what you have written below at the June 1 BOHmeeting.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:02 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
I saw a complaint on an e-cig forum website from a person who said that they were unable to smoke their e-cig in
the Tacoma Mall. I went to the mall today and met w/ Steven Heim, the mall's general manager, he said that it was
true. He said all Simon Malls (300 facilities) across the country are smoke free and that means you can't smoke
anything in the mall. He said he had done research on the product and understood that e-cigs contain nicotine, which
is highly addictive. This was curious to me because e-cigs are sold in the Tacoma Mall. He said that the kiosk rental
manager rented a space to an e-cig retailer w/out his previous approval. He said he told her "you might as well have
rented the space to a heroin dealer."
He called his corporate head quarters and was told that he was correct in banning the use of the item in the building.
Steven stated that there is a no smoking sign at every door, and the company applies this policy to all smoking. They
have no plans of adding an addendum to their current code of conduct to specifically state "no smoking of e-
cigarettes". If customers want to smoke an e-cig, they can go outside and stand 25feet from the door.
He said that the mall is a family oriented establishment and want to project that image. Allowing the smoking e-cigs
throughout the mall would contradict that image. He stated that was the main reason why the Tinder Box smoke shop
is no longer located in the mall.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
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Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Randy Grein
Date: 4/19/2011 4:31:12 PM
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Well I've got to run out for the day now, so I'm not sure how much help I'll be this afternoon. But basically what
happens is any video tries to load and does the spinning dots thing. Then after a few minutes it says "An error
occurred. Please try again later."
It didn't always do this, but I'm not sure when it switched.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:57 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
OK, what's the symptom? Youtube is streaming OK now. Give me a call...
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:45 AM
To: Randy Grein
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hey Randy,
I found another issue I'm hoping you can help me with. I can access YouTube (and YouTube embedded videos) but
I can't watch any of them. It's a standard way for media to host video content, so it's difficult to do my job without
that. For example, I'm trying to watch a video about e-cigarettes on the FDA website, and it won't let me.
Can you help with that?
Thanks!
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:02 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Glad to hear it is working! We had some really fun time tracking the problem down.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PM
To: Randy Grein
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
It works!!!
Thank you so much. This is really helpful for me to get things done.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Sure. Get right on it.
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM
To: Randy Grein
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
HiRandy,
Checking back in on this. Because I'm not able to access Facebook, I can't contribute to the Access To Care grant
application by their deadline. I've shut down and restarted my computer every day, but it's just not changing.
Can you help?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:57 AM
To: Randy Grein
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
HiRandy-
Has there been any resolution to this? I still can't get through to the sites. I'm trying to get some facebook advertising
rates for the Access to Care team, but can't help them without access.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
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From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:51 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Bridget, could you please log out and log in again? Then call me at 6443.
Randy
Incident 30467
Caller: Bridget Vandeventer TRAINING & COMMUNICATIONS D Street
Phone: 253 798 2853
Summary: Fortinet IgnoringWebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
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Added by Kirkman, Lance on Friday, April 08, 2011 8:38 AM
Summary: Fortinet IgnoringWebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
"My web permissions seem to have changed again. I'm supposed to have access to Twitter, bit.ly, Facebook, etc.
and did yesterday, but that's changed. Can you look into it for me?"
BVANDEVENTER
TPCHDLOCAL/FW-WEBAUTH-DEFAULT
1
0 day(s) 0 hour(s) 26 minute(s)
192.103.156.47
11 MB
FSAE
I show Bridget a member of Webauth-Other but Fortinet says she's default (LK) >> RG
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Support Call ID: %#%9eaf633e-1b94-4e52-9d56-ee6950ef5d7c%#%>
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Randy Grein
Date: 4/19/2011 11:44:44 AM
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hey Randy,
I found another issue I'm hoping you can help me with. I can access YouTube (and YouTube embedded videos) but
I can't watch any of them. It's a standard way for media to host video content, so it's difficult to do my job without
that. For example, I'm trying to watch a video about e-cigarettes on the FDA website, and it won't let me.
Can you help with that?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:02 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Glad to hear it is working! We had some really fun time tracking the problem down.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PM
To: Randy Grein
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
It works!!!
Thank you so much. This is really helpful for me to get things done.
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Sure. Get right on it.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM
To: Randy Grein
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
HiRandy,
Checking back in on this. Because I'm not able to access Facebook, I can't contribute to the Access To Care grant
application by their deadline. I've shut down and restarted my computer every day, but it's just not changing.
Can you help?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:57 AM
To: Randy Grein
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
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HiRandy-
Has there been any resolution to this? I still can't get through to the sites. I'm trying to get some facebook advertising
rates for the Access to Care team, but can't help them without access.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:51 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Bridget, could you please log out and log in again? Then call me at 6443.
Randy
Incident 30467
Caller: Bridget Vandeventer TRAINING & COMMUNICATIONS D Street
Phone: 253 798 2853
Summary: Fortinet IgnoringWebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
_____
Added by Kirkman, Lance on Friday, April 08, 2011 8:38 AM
Summary: Fortinet IgnoringWebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
"My web permissions seem to have changed again. I'm supposed to have access to Twitter, bit.ly, Facebook, etc.
and did yesterday, but that's changed. Can you look into it for me?"
BVANDEVENTER
TPCHDLOCAL/FW-WEBAUTH-DEFAULT
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0 day(s) 0 hour(s) 26 minute(s)
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11 MB
FSAE
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From: Randy Grein
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 11:48:50 AM
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
OK, I’ll start a ticket, it may take a few days to resolve. I know you haven’t gone through the ‘contacting support’
spiel, but when you have a problem like this contact the helpdesk first. You really will get better service overall. I
could be out like last week, etc.
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:45 AMTo: Randy GreinSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hey Randy,
I found another issue I’m hoping you can help me with. I can access YouTube (and YouTube embedded videos) but
I can’t watch any of them. It’s a standard way for media to host video content, so it’s difficult to do my job without
that. For example, I’m trying to watch a video about e-cigarettes on the FDA website, and it won’t let me.
Can you help with that?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy GreinSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:02 PMTo: Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Glad to hear it is working! We had some really fun time tracking the problem down.
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PMTo: Randy GreinCc: Stan ProtheroSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
It works!!!
Thank you so much. This is really helpful for me to get things done.
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy GreinSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerCc: Stan ProtheroSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Sure. Get right on it.
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AMTo: Randy GreinCc: Stan Prothero
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Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hi Randy,
Checking back in on this. Because I’m not able to access Facebook, I can’t contribute to the Access To Care grant
application by their deadline. I’ve shut down and restarted my computer every day, but it’s just not changing.
Can you help?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:57 AMTo: Randy GreinSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hi Randy-
Has there been any resolution to this? I still can’t get through to the sites. I’m trying to get some facebook
advertising rates for the Access to Care team, but can’t help them without access.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy GreinSent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:51 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Bridget, could you please log out and log in again? Then call me at 6443.
Randy
Incident 30467
Caller: Bridget Vandeventer TRAINING & COMMUNICATIONS D Street
Phone: 253 798 2853
Summary: Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Added by Kirkman, Lance on Friday, April 08, 2011 8:38 AM
Summary: Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
"My web permissions seem to have changed again. I’m supposed to have access to Twitter, bit.ly, Facebook,
etc. and did yesterday, but that’s changed. Can you look into it for me?"
BVANDEVENTER TPCHDLOCAL/FW-WEBAUTH-
DEFAULT10 day(s) 0 hour(s) 26
minute(s)192.103.156.47
11
MBFSAE
I show Bridget a member of Webauth-Other but Fortinet says she's default (LK) >> RG
Support Call ID: %#%9eaf633e-1b94-4e52-9d56-ee6950ef5d7c%#%>
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From: Randy Grein
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 3:56:52 PM
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
OK, what’s the symptom? Youtube is streaming OK now. Give me a call…
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:45 AMTo: Randy GreinSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hey Randy,
I found another issue I’m hoping you can help me with. I can access YouTube (and YouTube embedded videos) but
I can’t watch any of them. It’s a standard way for media to host video content, so it’s difficult to do my job without
that. For example, I’m trying to watch a video about e-cigarettes on the FDA website, and it won’t let me.
Can you help with that?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy GreinSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:02 PMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Glad to hear it is working! We had some really fun time tracking the problem down.
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PMTo: Randy GreinCc: Stan ProtheroSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
It works!!!
Thank you so much. This is really helpful for me to get things done.
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy GreinSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerCc: Stan ProtheroSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Sure. Get right on it.
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AMTo: Randy GreinCc: Stan ProtheroSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
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Hi Randy,
Checking back in on this. Because I’m not able to access Facebook, I can’t contribute to the Access To Care grant
application by their deadline. I’ve shut down and restarted my computer every day, but it’s just not changing.
Can you help?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:57 AMTo: Randy GreinSubject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hi Randy-
Has there been any resolution to this? I still can’t get through to the sites. I’m trying to get some facebook
advertising rates for the Access to Care team, but can’t help them without access.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy GreinSent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:51 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Bridget, could you please log out and log in again? Then call me at 6443.
Randy
Incident 30467
Caller: Bridget Vandeventer TRAINING & COMMUNICATIONS D Street
Phone: 253 798 2853
Summary: Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Added by Kirkman, Lance on Friday, April 08, 2011 8:38 AM
Summary: Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
"My web permissions seem to have changed again. I’m supposed to have access to Twitter, bit.ly, Facebook,
etc. and did yesterday, but that’s changed. Can you look into it for me?"
BVANDEVENTER TPCHDLOCAL/FW-WEBAUTH-
DEFAULT10 day(s) 0 hour(s) 26
minute(s)192.103.156.47
11
MBFSAE
I show Bridget a member of Webauth-Other but Fortinet says she's default (LK) >> RG
Support Call ID: %#%9eaf633e-1b94-4e52-9d56-ee6950ef5d7c%#%>
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From: Randy Grein
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 5:17:40 PM
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
OK, I've found what should be the answer. Try your video and let me know how well it works.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:45 AM
To: Randy Grein
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Hey Randy,
I found another issue I'm hoping you can help me with. I can access YouTube (and YouTube embedded videos) but
I can't watch any of them. It's a standard way for media to host video content, so it's difficult to do my job without
that. For example, I'm trying to watch a video about e-cigarettes on the FDA website, and it won't let me.
Can you help with that?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:02 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Glad to hear it is working! We had some really fun time tracking the problem down.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PM
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To: Randy Grein
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
It works!!!
Thank you so much. This is really helpful for me to get things done.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Sure. Get right on it.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:52 AM
To: Randy Grein
Cc: Stan Prothero
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
HiRandy,
Checking back in on this. Because I'm not able to access Facebook, I can't contribute to the Access To Care grant
application by their deadline. I've shut down and restarted my computer every day, but it's just not changing.
Can you help?
Thanks!
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:57 AM
To: Randy Grein
Subject: RE: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
HiRandy-
Has there been any resolution to this? I still can't get through to the sites. I'm trying to get some facebook advertising
rates for the Access to Care team, but can't help them without access.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Randy Grein
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:51 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Incident 30467 - Fortinet Ignoring WebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
Bridget, could you please log out and log in again? Then call me at 6443.
Randy
Incident 30467
Caller: Bridget Vandeventer TRAINING & COMMUNICATIONS D Street
Phone: 253 798 2853
Summary: Fortinet IgnoringWebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
_____
Added by Kirkman, Lance on Friday, April 08, 2011 8:38 AM
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Summary: Fortinet IgnoringWebAuth-Other & Defaulted her
"My web permissions seem to have changed again. I'm supposed to have access to Twitter, bit.ly, Facebook, etc.
and did yesterday, but that's changed. Can you look into it for me?"
BVANDEVENTER
TPCHDLOCAL/FW-WEBAUTH-DEFAULT
1
0 day(s) 0 hour(s) 26 minute(s)
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11 MB
FSAE
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 11:55:58 AMSubject: RE: LocalSmoking Regs
Greg.....here'smy comments on:
Local SIPP
Section 10: Reinspection-I'd like to suggest that with several changes that we can take out the box diagram in
paragraph B.So inA the third linebeginning with "finding" would read:
"finding of a violation andany subsequent reinspectionwithin any five-year period also results........."
And then in paragraph B we could:
1.Delete "and following" in the second line
2. Put a "period" in the end after "Board of Health"
3. Take out the box diagram
E-Cigarette
Section 3: Findings I have some reservations about including "Gummy Bears, Peanut Butter Cups and Orange
Creamsicle." We know that Kim from the Vaporium will be looking at this language and realize that these flavors areexactly the same as part of her advertising. She will probably think that the Health Department is specifically targeting
her business , and treating her unfairly as compared to her competition who may be using other flavors in their ads,
but we don't include those flavors in our regulation. She could make a distracting stink about this with the Board . So
I'd suggest that we keep in "chocolate and strawberry." We may want to add other child friendly flavors.
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Section 6: Suggest that the title be changed to "Sale or Providing to Minors Prohibited" as the intent of the paragraph
in several places includes to "give or furnish."
Section 9 Alternate: So what we're saying is that e-cigs could be used in taverns, bars, casinos, etc. where it's
currently postedwith signs that say "no minors allowed."
This may be where the BOH eventually wants to go with limiting restrictions on where e-cigs can or can't be used,
but I'd suggest that we not offer this option at this time. If they can't support the more comprehensive ban in "public
places and places of employment," we could then offer the alternative for their consideration.
Section 10: Enforcement
In paragraph B I'd like to suggest that it read......The civil penalties and reinspection fees that may be imposed.....
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:00 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: LocalSmoking Regs
I have attached new drafts of the Local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. These drafts (dated April 18th)
incorporate the changes discussed at Friday's meeting as well as the changes recommended in recent emails.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Date: 4/19/2011 9:50:14 AM
Subject: RE: Local Smoking Regs
Thanks Greg-
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:00 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: LocalSmoking Regs
I have attached new drafts of the Local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. These drafts (dated April 18th)
incorporate the changes discussed at Friday's meeting as well as the changes recommended in recent emails.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Jaime Paulson
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Samantha Yeun
Date: 4/19/2011 6:06:58 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Those meetings have been removed from the Auditorium Calendar. Let me know if there is anything else.
Thanks!
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:04 PM
To: SamanthaYeun; Jaime PaulsonCc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Thanks Sam- Jaime- are you able to take both of these meetings off of the calendar (this Thursday and 4/27)?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Samantha Yeun
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:41 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Jaime Paulson
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
I believed this Thurs. 2-5 was the old schedule date. I had no idea who schedule that one. The new schedule for
public hearing on SIPP & E-cig is Wednesday next week (4/27) 5- 8:30.
Sam
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Jaime Paulson
Cc: SamanthaYeun; TutreciaGiles
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Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Hi Jaime, I’m thinking that this is a public meeting that was never cancelled (it should not be on here any longer) but
this is interesting because I think we originally reserved it from 5:30 to 8:30 PM….
Tutrecia/Sam- can you shed some light on this?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Jaime Paulson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:44 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Smoking in Public Places – Public Meeting
HiKirsten,
The above meeting is being held in the Auditorium this Thursday from 2 until 5 p.m. Does the meeting start at 2 p.m.
or is there prep and then it starts sometime after 2 p.m.? Thanks!
Jaime Paulson
Software Support Specialist II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street
Tacoma, WA 98418
(253) 798-4755 Direct Line
(253) 798-6498 Fax
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Samantha Yeun
Jaime Paulson
Date: 4/19/2011 5:04:22 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Thanks Sam- Jaime- are you able to take both of these meetings off of the calendar (this Thursday and 4/27)?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Samantha Yeun
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:41 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Jaime PaulsonCc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
I believed this Thurs. 2-5 was the old schedule date. I had no idea who schedule that one. The new schedule for
public hearing on SIPP & E-cig is Wednesday next week (4/27) 5- 8:30.
Sam
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Jaime Paulson
Cc: SamanthaYeun; TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Hi Jaime, I’m thinking that this is a public meeting that was never cancelled (it should not be on here any longer) but
this is interesting because I think we originally reserved it from 5:30 to 8:30 PM….
Tutrecia/Sam- can you shed some light on this?
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: Jaime Paulson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:44 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Smoking in Public Places – Public Meeting
HiKirsten,
The above meeting is being held in the Auditorium this Thursday from 2 until 5 p.m. Does the meeting start at 2 p.m.
or is there prep and then it starts sometime after 2 p.m.? Thanks!
Jaime Paulson
Software Support Specialist II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street
Tacoma, WA 98418
(253) 798-4755 Direct Line
(253) 798-6498 Fax
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Jaime Paulson
Samantha Yeun
Date: 4/19/2011 6:10:08 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Thank you Jaime-
From: Jaime Paulson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:07 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; SamanthaYeun
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Those meetings have been removed from the Auditorium Calendar. Let me know if there is anything else.
Thanks!
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:04 PM
To: SamanthaYeun; Jaime Paulson
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Thanks Sam- Jaime- are you able to take both of these meetings off of the calendar (this Thursday and 4/27)?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Samantha Yeun
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:41 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Jaime Paulson
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
I believed this Thurs. 2-5 was the old schedule date. I had no idea who schedule that one. The new schedule for
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public hearing on SIPP & E-cig is Wednesday next week (4/27) 5- 8:30.
Sam
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Jaime Paulson
Cc: SamanthaYeun; TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Hi Jaime, I’m thinking that this is a public meeting that was never cancelled (it should not be on here any longer) but
this is interesting because I think we originally reserved it from 5:30 to 8:30 PM….
Tutrecia/Sam- can you shed some light on this?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Jaime Paulson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:44 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Smoking in Public Places – Public Meeting
HiKirsten,
The above meeting is being held in the Auditorium this Thursday from 2 until 5 p.m. Does the meeting start at 2 p.m.
or is there prep and then it starts sometime after 2 p.m.? Thanks!
Jaime Paulson
Software Support Specialist II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street
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Tacoma, WA 98418
(253) 798-4755 Direct Line
(253) 798-6498 Fax
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From: Samantha Yeun
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Jaime Paulson
Date: 4/19/2011 4:40:32 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
I believed this Thurs. 2-5 was the old schedule date. I had no idea who schedule that one. The new schedule for
public hearing on SIPP & E-cig is Wednesday next week (4/27) 5- 8:30.
Sam
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:22 PMTo: Jaime Paulson
Cc: SamanthaYeun; TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Hi Jaime, I’m thinking that this is a public meeting that was never cancelled (it should not be on here any longer) but
this is interesting because I think we originally reserved it from 5:30 to 8:30 PM….
Tutrecia/Sam- can you shed some light on this?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Jaime PaulsonSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:44 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Smoking in Public Places – Public Meeting
HiKirsten,
The above meeting is being held in the Auditorium this Thursday from 2 until 5 p.m. Does the meeting start at 2 p.m.
or is there prep and then it starts sometime after 2 p.m.? Thanks!
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Jaime Paulson
Software Support Specialist II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street
Tacoma, WA 98418
(253) 798-4755 Direct Line
(253) 798-6498 Fax
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/19/2011 12:45:04 PM
Subject: RE: Study Session PP
I found one that Joby must have put together as a template that I’ve used once. It is here: F:\LIBSHARE\Logo-
CommunicationStandards\CommunicationStandards\PowerPoint Standards\Simple Color Strip Presentation
Template.pptx.
I’m planning on getting some graphic design help and making some better templates, but in the meantime this
can work.
I’ll have a copy of my plan with me in case they ask anything.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:35 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: RE: Study Session PP
Thanks Bridget, these are great comments- I’ll make the revisions.
Do you have a preferred template that I can use now or should I keep this one and just wait for your new
template?
With regard to your question about communication plan, I’m going to go through these next steps pretty quicklyso I don’t think it will be necessary to talk about the plan but if they do have any questions about it, it would be
great if you would like to answer them.
Thanks again!
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:00 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: Study Session PP
Slide 2:
Do we want to call them Tobacco Regulations? I’m on the fence because e-cigarettes don’t have tobacco.
Slide 4:
I’d add something about the really old one where we said that cigarettes couldn’t be sold to minors. It
reminds them that it wasn’t always the case and shows some history in our efforts.
Slide 7:
I’d put “Regulation” or “Resolution” in the title so it’s clear we’re now talking about what we’re trying to
pass and not the product itself.
I think we need to be really careful with the word smoking. Technically, when you’re using an e-cigarette
you are not smoking. The opponents will use other verbs, so we need to be careful.
On the last bullet, I’d say “Prohibits marketing activities such as sampling or heavy discounts designed to
attract new and younger users.Slide 8:
The con sticky should have the same size font as the pro.
The con is a little unclear to me. Maybe “Difficult for smokers who are using e-cigarettes to quit smoking.”
I’d call it “Cons” and not concerns.
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Slide 10:
Same comment re: Cons
And then overall, I’m not wild about the slide design. I actually like the color, but I don’t like how the logo doesn’t
blend into the background on the bottom right. A standard, nice looking PPT template is on my to-do list.
Finally, I see the Communications Plan bullet on the last slide. Do you need me to present or just briefly talk
about the plan?
Thanks!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:46 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: Study Session PP
Hi Bridget, in anticipation of the Study Session tomorrow, would you mind taking a quick look at this powerpoint?Any suggestions/edits appreciated!
Just an fyi about the “sticky note” slides. This is going to be interactive- I’ll have real sticky notes, pens and large
sticky paper on the walls. The intent is to get the pros and concerns about the major components of each of the 2
regs. Each member will be asked to write their thoughts and we’ll cluster their thoughts into themes. Will help
us to understand the big issues so we can address them in our process/strategy development.
Thanks for any assistance you can give- Kirsten
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/19/2011 12:00:26 PM
Subject: RE: Study Session PP
Slide 2:
* Do we want to call them Tobacco Regulations? I'm on the fence because e-cigarettes don't have tobacco.
Slide 4:
* I'd add something about the really old one where we said that cigarettes couldn't be sold to minors. It reminds them
that it wasn't always the case and shows some history in our efforts.
Slide 7:
* I'd put "Regulation" or "Resolution" in the title so it's clear we're now talking about what we're trying to pass and
not the product itself.
* I think we need to be really careful with the word smoking. Technically, when you're using an e-cigarette you are
not smoking. The opponents will use other verbs, so we need to be careful.
* On the last bullet, I'd say "Prohibits marketing activities such as sampling or heavy discounts designed to attract
new and younger users.
Slide 8:
* The con sticky should have the same size font as the pro.
* The con is a little unclear to me. Maybe "Difficult for smokers who are using e-cigarettes to quit smoking."
* I'd call it "Cons" and not concerns.
Slide 10:
* Same comment re: Cons
And then overall, I'm not wild about the slide design. I actually like the color, but I don't like how the logo doesn't
blend into the background on the bottom right. A standard, nice looking PPT template is on my to-do list.
Finally, I see the Communications Plan bullet on the last slide. Do you need me to present or just briefly talk about
the plan?
Thanks!
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Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:46 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Study Session PP
Hi Bridget, in anticipation of the Study Session tomorrow, would you mind taking a quick look at this powerpoint?
Any suggestions/edits appreciated!
Just an fyi about the "sticky note" slides. This is going to be interactive- I'll have real sticky notes, pens and large
sticky paper on the walls. The intent is to get the pros and concerns about the major components of each of the 2
regs. Each member will be asked to write their thoughts and we'll cluster their thoughts into themes. Will help us to
understand the big issues so we can address them in our process/strategy development.
Thanks for any assistance you can give- Kirsten
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 12:34:52 PM
Subject: RE: Study Session PP
Thanks Bridget, these are great comments- I'll make the revisions.
Do you have a preferred template that I can use now or should I keep this one and just wait for your new template?
With regard to your question about communication plan, I'm going to go through these next steps pretty quickly so I
don't think it will be necessary to talk about the plan but if they do have any questions about it, it would be great if
you would like to answer them.
Thanks again!
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:00 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: Study Session PP
Slide 2:
* Do we want to call them Tobacco Regulations? I'm on the fence because e-cigarettes don't have tobacco.
Slide 4:
* I'd add something about the really old one where we said that cigarettes couldn't be sold to minors. It reminds themthat it wasn't always the case and shows some history in our efforts.
Slide 7:
* I'd put "Regulation" or "Resolution" in the title so it's clear we're now talking about what we're trying to pass and
not the product itself.
* I think we need to be really careful with the word smoking. Technically, when you're using an e-cigarette you are
not smoking. The opponents will use other verbs, so we need to be careful.
* On the last bullet, I'd say "Prohibits marketing activities such as sampling or heavy discounts designed to attract
new and younger users.
Slide 8:
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* The con sticky should have the same size font as the pro.
* The con is a little unclear to me. Maybe "Difficult for smokers who are using e-cigarettes to quit smoking."
* I'd call it "Cons" and not concerns.
Slide 10:
* Same comment re: Cons
And then overall, I'm not wild about the slide design. I actually like the color, but I don't like how the logo doesn't
blend into the background on the bottom right. A standard, nice looking PPT template is on my to-do list.
Finally, I see the Communications Plan bullet on the last slide. Do you need me to present or just briefly talk about
the plan?
Thanks!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:46 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer Subject: Study Session PP
Hi Bridget, in anticipation of the Study Session tomorrow, would you mind taking a quick look at this powerpoint?
Any suggestions/edits appreciated!
Just an fyi about the "sticky note" slides. This is going to be interactive- I'll have real sticky notes, pens and largesticky paper on the walls. The intent is to get the pros and concerns about the major components of each of the 2
regs. Each member will be asked to write their thoughts and we'll cluster their thoughts into themes. Will help us to
understand the big issues so we can address them in our process/strategy development.
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Thanks for any assistance you can give- Kirsten
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From: Apa, James<[email protected]>
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/19/2011 8:59:08 PM
Subject: RE: thanks and follow up
Attachments: E Cig Tough Q draft.doc
Thanks Bridget. Also, I’ve attached a draft version of a tough Q&A we developed.
In terms of rationale for extending the smoking ban in public areas, it basically boiled down to three arguments, all of
which were used prior to the vote:
1) Allowing e-cigarettes creates an enforcement problem for program staff and proprietors, as it’s difficult to
distinguish betweenan e-cigarette and the real thing
2) E-cigarette use can lead to more tobacco smoking in establishments in violation of the law, which leads to more
second hand smoke, which we now know from the Surgeon General can be instantly harmful. (This was based on a
couple observations by inspectors.)
3) Banning smoking in public sets an important social norm about the use of tobacco and other nicotine deliverydevices.
-James
_____
From: Bridget Vandeventer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:36 PMTo: Apa, James
Cc: Li-Vollmer,Meredith; Ross, Kathryn;Valenzuela,Matias
Subject: RE: thanks and follow up
I was JUST writing you guys a thank you. I appreciate your time so much. It was a really valuable use of a day for
me, so thank you so much.
This information is really helpful.After our conversation, I’m readjustingmycommunicationsplan a bit, and building
in a few more things based on your experiences. Our tobacco team is presenting the proposed regulations to the
BOH tomorrow during a study session, so we’ll probably have a good sense from that on where we stand and how
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hard the process might be.
I’ll be in touch (probably more than you want!) on this and many other things I’m sure.
Thanks again,
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Apa, James [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:25 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Li-Vollmer,Meredith; Ross, Kathryn;Valenzuela,Matias
Subject: thanks and follow up
Hi, Bridget. It was great to meet yesterday, and we’re looking forward to working with you.
Regarding e-cigarettes, I’ve attached some documents from our program that may be useful to you, including the
staff report to the Board. Also, if you think it might be helpful, we could see if King County Councilmember Julia
Patterson, who’s a board member and was chair when the e-cigarette regulation passed, is available to consult with
any of your board members who would value her perspective.
Also, here’s the P-I story that kicked off the media coverage in the four days prior to our Board meeting lastDecember.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/431707_e-cigarettes.html
And the story after it passed – four members voted for an amendment that would have stripped out the public
“vaping”ban, but it failed.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/431933_e-cig-ban.html
Please let us know if there’s anything more we can do to help,
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Best,
-James
James Apa
CommunicationsManager
Public Health - Seattle & King County
206-205-5442
www.kingcounty.gov/health
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: 'Apa, James'
Date: 4/19/2011 4:35:58 PM
Subject: RE: thanks and follow up
I was JUST writing you guys a thank you. I appreciate your time so much. It was a really valuable use of a day for
me, so thank you so much.
This information is really helpful.After our conversation, I'm readjusting mycommunicationsplan a bit, and building in
a few more things based on your experiences. Our tobacco team is presenting the proposed regulations to the BOH
tomorrow during a study session, so we'll probably have a good sense from that on where we stand and how hard
the process might be.
I'll be in touch (probably more than you want!) on this and many other things I'm sure.
Thanks again,
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected]
From: Apa, James [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:25 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Li-Vollmer,Meredith; Ross, Kathryn;Valenzuela,Matias
Subject: thanks and follow up
Hi, Bridget. It was great to meet yesterday, and we're looking forward to working with you.
Regarding e-cigarettes, I've attached some documents from our program that may be useful to you, including the staff
report to the Board. Also, if you think it might be helpful, we could see if King County Councilmember Julia
Patterson, who's a board member and was chair when the e-cigarette regulation passed, is available to consult with
any of your board members who would value her perspective.
Also, here's the P-I story that kicked off the media coverage in the four days prior to our Board meeting last
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December.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/431707_e-cigarettes.html
And the story after it passed - four members voted for an amendment that would have stripped out the public
"vaping"ban, but it failed.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/431933_e-cig-ban.html
Please let us know if there's anything more we can do to help,
Best,
-James
James Apa
CommunicationsManager
Public Health - Seattle & King County
206-205-5442
www.kingcounty.gov/health
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: HannaZarellijackson
Date: 4/20/2011 12:52:02 PM
Subject: FW: Smoking in Public Places – Public Meeting
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:10 PM
To: Jaime Paulson;SamanthaYeun
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Thank you Jaime-
From: Jaime Paulson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:07 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; SamanthaYeun
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Those meetings have been removed from the Auditorium Calendar. Let me know if there is anything else.
Thanks!
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:04 PM
To: SamanthaYeun; Jaime Paulson
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Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Thanks Sam- Jaime- are you able to take both of these meetings off of the calendar (this Thursday and 4/27)?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Samantha Yeun
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:41 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Jaime Paulson
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
I believed this Thurs. 2-5 was the old schedule date. I had no idea who schedule that one. The new schedule for
public hearing on SIPP & E-cig is Wednesday next week (4/27) 5- 8:30.
Sam
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Jaime Paulson
Cc: SamanthaYeun; TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Smoking in Public Places – PublicMeeting
Hi Jaime, I’m thinking that this is a public meeting that was never cancelled (it should not be on here any longer) but
this is interesting because I think we originally reserved it from 5:30 to 8:30 PM….
Tutrecia/Sam- can you shed some light on this?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Jaime Paulson
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:44 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Smoking in Public Places – Public Meeting
HiKirsten,
The above meeting is being held in the Auditorium this Thursday from 2 until 5 p.m. Does the meeting start at 2 p.m.
or is there prep and then it starts sometime after 2 p.m.? Thanks!
Jaime Paulson
Software Support Specialist II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street
Tacoma, WA 98418
(253) 798-4755 Direct Line
(253) 798-6498 Fax
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Date: 4/20/2011 12:35:00 PM
Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed inTacomaMall
Steven Heim is Darlene Reitter's son.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; SteveMarek; FrankDibiase; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
Thank you for the informationTutrecia.
I wonder if Steven would be interested in sharing what you have written below at the June 1 BOHmeeting.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:02 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
I saw a complaint on an e-cig forum website from a person who said that they were unable to smoke their e-cig inthe Tacoma Mall. I went to the mall today and met w/ Steven Heim, the mall's general manager, he said that it was
true. He said all Simon Malls (300 facilities) across the country are smoke free and that means you can't smoke
anything in the mall. He said he had done research on the product and understood that e-cigs contain nicotine, which
is highly addictive. This was curious to me because e-cigs are sold in the Tacoma Mall. He said that the kiosk rental
manager rented a space to an e-cig retailer w/out his previous approval. He said he told her "you might as well have
rented the space to a heroin dealer."
He called his corporate head quarters and was told that he was correct in banning the use of the item in the building.
Steven stated that there is a no smoking sign at every door, and the company applies this policy to all smoking. They
have no plans of adding an addendum to their current code of conduct to specifically state "no smoking of e-cigarettes". If customers want to smoke an e-cig, they can go outside and stand 25feet from the door.
He said that the mall is a family oriented establishment and want to project that image. Allowing the smoking e-cigs
throughout the mall would contradict that image. He stated that was the main reason why the Tinder Box smoke shop
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is no longer located in the mall.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Steve Marek
Date: 4/20/2011 11:43:22 AM
Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed inTacomaMall
I told Mr. Heim that I would make him aware of the upcoming meetings, and he's welcome to attend. -tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) 798-6450
From: FrankDibiase
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:12 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles; Steve Marek
Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
Great information. Steven Helm is Darlyne Reiter's son. Darlyne was a former media specialist in our department
who worked with Joby Winans.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; SteveMarek; FrankDibiase; Bridget Vandeventer Subject: RE: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
Thank you for the informationTutrecia.
I wonder if Steven would be interested in sharing what you have written below at the June 1 BOHmeeting.
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:02 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: E-cig smoking not allowed in TacomaMall
I saw a complaint on an e-cig forum website from a person who said that they were unable to smoke their e-cig in
the Tacoma Mall. I went to the mall today and met w/ Steven Heim, the mall's general manager, he said that it was
true. He said all Simon Malls (300 facilities) across the country are smoke free and that means you can't smoke
anything in the mall. He said he had done research on the product and understood that e-cigs contain nicotine, which
is highly addictive. This was curious to me because e-cigs are sold in the Tacoma Mall. He said that the kiosk rental
manager rented a space to an e-cig retailer w/out his previous approval. He said he told her "you might as well have
rented the space to a heroin dealer."
He called his corporate head quarters and was told that he was correct in banning the use of the item in the building.
Steven stated that there is a no smoking sign at every door, and the company applies this policy to all smoking. They
have no plans of adding an addendum to their current code of conduct to specifically state "no smoking of e-
cigarettes". If customers want to smoke an e-cig, they can go outside and stand 25feet from the door.
He said that the mall is a family oriented establishment and want to project that image. Allowing the smoking e-cigs
throughout the mall would contradict that image. He stated that was the main reason why the Tinder Box smoke shop
is no longer located in the mall.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Rick Talbert <[email protected]>
To: Tawana Bellamy
Date: 4/20/2011 2:05:28 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Tawanna:
I may not be able to make it back for the study session today. Please let me know if you have quorum issues?
RickTalbert
CouncilMember District 5
From: Tawana Bellamy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:37 AM
To:Cindy DeGrosse ([email protected]); Cindy Leingang ([email protected]);Cindy
Willis; Connie Perry; DickMuri;Stanley Flemming; JakeFey ([email protected]); LeslieSwalley; MarilynStrickland ([email protected]); MarkWilliams; Pat McCarthy; Patricia Johnson
([email protected]); Rebecca Sullivan ([email protected]); RickTalbert; RonLucas
([email protected]); Victoria Woodards ([email protected]); 'Patricia Johnson'
Cc: Anthony Chen; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase
Subject: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Good morning Board of Health Members,
I’m forwarding you some additional information from Heidi Henson, Tobacco-Free Alliance of Pierce. She spoke at
the April 6th BOH meeting. Please read the E-cigarettes letter to the BOH April 2011 document first.
Thank you.
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant II
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Office of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
From: Heidi Henson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:36 PM
To: TawanaBellamy
Cc: Frank Dibiase
Subject: Board of Health
Hello Tawana,
Please forward this email with the attachments to the all the members of the Board of Health.
Thanks somuch,
Heidi Henson
253.223.7538
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From: Tawana Bellamy
To: 'Rick Talbert'
Date: 4/20/2011 2:13:30 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Mr. Talbert,
We still have a quorum if you cannot make it.
Thank you.
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant II
Office of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
From: RickTalbert [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:05 AM
To: TawanaBellamy
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Tawanna:
I may not be able to make it back for the study session today. Please let me know if you have quorum issues?
RickTalbert
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CouncilMember District 5
From: Tawana Bellamy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:37 AM
To:Cindy DeGrosse ([email protected]); Cindy Leingang ([email protected]);Cindy
Willis; Connie Perry; DickMuri;Stanley Flemming; JakeFey ([email protected]); LeslieSwalley; Marilyn
Strickland ([email protected]); MarkWilliams; Pat McCarthy; Patricia Johnson
([email protected]); Rebecca Sullivan ([email protected]); RickTalbert; RonLucas
([email protected]); Victoria Woodards ([email protected]); 'Patricia Johnson'
Cc: Anthony Chen; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase
Subject: E-cigarettes - additional information from Heidi Henson
Good morning Board of Health Members,
I'm forwarding you some additional information from Heidi Henson, Tobacco-Free Alliance of Pierce. She spoke at
the April 6th BOH meeting. Please read the E-cigarettes letter to the BOH April 2011 document first.
Thank you.
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant II
Office of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
From: Heidi Henson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:36 PM
To: TawanaBellamy
Cc: Frank Dibiase
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Subject: Board of Health
Hello Tawana,
Please forward this email with the attachments to the all the members of the Board of Health.
Thanks somuch,
Heidi Henson
253.223.7538
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/22/2011 7:16:50 PM
Subject: e-cigarettes on Real Housewives of Orange County
I called my friend at Nordstrom today (Director of Public Affairs) to ask about their policy about e-cigarettes in
stores. She's checking into it, but I did have to explain what an e-cigarette was first. Her response: "Oh like the crazy
lady in Real Housewives ofOrange County?"
So I googled, and I present to you:
Crazy Fight on 'RealHousewives'/The Daily Beast (12/17/10)
http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/item/crazy-psychic-starts-fight-on-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/
I hope Lily is doing better and you got the answers you need! Have a great weekend!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Adria Moskowitz
To: Peggy McMurtrie
Date: 4/22/2011 11:07:34 AM
Subject: FW: New Timeline
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-22-11.xlsx
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:21 AM
To: AdriaMoskowitz
Subject: FW: New Timeline
Hi Adria, would you be willing to print the attached document in color - 6 copies please? Then, if you could give to
Tutrecia or Bruce to bring over to the 9:30 meeting this morning?
Also, I will not be in this morning- I have a sick kid that I need to bring to the docs however; I am reachable if you
need anything by cell- 206.304.0776
Thanks! Kirsten
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:19 AM
To: Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; 'Gregory Jacoby';Bridget Vandeventer; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: New Timeline
Hi everyone,
Based on Steve's revised timeline below, I've modified the Draft 4/16/11 Tobacco Planning Process and Timeline
worksheet to capture these changes. Unfortunately, I will be unable to join the meeting this morning- sick child.
I will ask Adria to make copies of this. Bruce and/or Tutrecia- would you be willing to bring copies over with you
this morning?
Thanks! Kirsten
_____
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:53 AM
To: FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Bridget Vandeventer Subject: NewTimeline
I thought the meeting went well yesterday. There were a few unanticipated twists and turns but it was a good
discussion and we got a pretty good idea of their concerns. After discussing this with Anthony yesterday and looking
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at the calendar here is what I am tentatively proposing to do. This is rough but I think it can be done. My plan is to
discuss it with Anthony this afternoon so let me know if there are any "fatal" flaws or I am missing the boat on
anything. We can discuss in more detail at our meeting on Friday. Thanks. Steve.
April 29- have the regs done in "final" draft form and sent out with the BOH package with one page fact
sheet/summaryof key issues.
May 2nd- advertise public meeting, basically go public.
May 12th- public meeting
May 13th-16th-BOH package completed with final regs and any back up material.
May 18th- next BOHmeeting. Present regulations in final draft form with changes from public meeting (if any). Go
over key issues.
June 1-take regs to BOH for adoption.
July 6th BOH meeting if necessary.
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Adria Moskowitz
Date: 4/22/2011 10:20:40 AM
Subject: FW: New Timeline
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-22-11.xlsx
Hi Adria, would you be willing to print the attached document in color - 6 copies please? Then, if you could give to
Tutrecia or Bruce to bring over to the 9:30 meeting this morning?
Also, I will not be in this morning- I have a sick kid that I need to bring to the docs however; I am reachable if you
need anything by cell- 206.304.0776
Thanks! Kirsten
_____
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:19 AM
To: Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; 'Gregory Jacoby';Bridget Vandeventer; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: New Timeline
Hi everyone,
Based on Steve’s revised timeline below, I’ve modified the Draft 4/16/11 Tobacco Planning Process and Timeline
worksheet to capture these changes. Unfortunately, I will be unable to join the meeting this morning- sick child.
I will ask Adria to make copies of this. Bruce and/or Tutrecia- would you be willing to bring copies over with you
this morning?
Thanks! Kirsten
_____
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:53 AMTo: FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: NewTimeline
I thought the meeting went well yesterday. There were a few unanticipated twists and turns but it was a good
discussion and we got a pretty good idea of their concerns. After discussing this with Anthony yesterday and looking
at the calendar here is what I am tentatively proposing to do. This is rough but I think it can be done. My plan is to
discuss it with Anthony this afternoon so let me know if there are any “fatal” flaws or I am missing the boat on
anything. We can discuss in more detail at our meeting on Friday. Thanks. Steve.
April 29- have the regs done in “final” draft form and sent out with the BOH package with one page fact
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sheet/summaryof key issues.
May 2nd- advertise public meeting, basically go public.
May 12th- public meeting
May 13th-16th-BOH package completed with final regs and any back up material.
May 18th- next BOHmeeting. Present regulations in final draft form with changes from public meeting (if any). Go
over key issues.
June 1-take regs to BOH for adoption.
July 6th BOH meeting if necessary.
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
'Gregory Jacoby'
Bridget Vandeventer
Tutrecia Giles
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/22/2011 10:19:02 AMSubject: RE: New Timeline
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-22-11.xlsx
Hi everyone,
Based on Steve’s revised timeline below, I’ve modified the Draft 4/16/11 Tobacco Planning Process and Timeline
worksheet to capture these changes. Unfortunately, I will be unable to join the meeting this morning- sick child.
I will ask Adria to make copies of this. Bruce and/or Tutrecia- would you be willing to bring copies over with youthis morning?
Thanks! Kirsten
_____
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:53 AM
To: FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Bridget Vandeventer Subject: NewTimeline
I thought the meeting went well yesterday. There were a few unanticipated twists and turns but it was a good
discussion and we got a pretty good idea of their concerns. After discussing this with Anthony yesterday and looking
at the calendar here is what I am tentatively proposing to do. This is rough but I think it can be done. My plan is to
discuss it with Anthony this afternoon so let me know if there are any “fatal” flaws or I am missing the boat on
anything. We can discuss in more detail at our meeting on Friday. Thanks. Steve.
April 29- have the regs done in “final” draft form and sent out with the BOH package with one page fact
sheet/summaryof key issues.
May 2nd- advertise public meeting, basically go public.
May 12th- public meeting
May 13th-16th-BOH package completed with final regs and any back up material.
May 18th- next BOHmeeting. Present regulations in final draft form with changes from public meeting (if any). Go
over key issues.
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June 1-take regs to BOH for adoption.
July 6th BOH meeting if necessary.
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From: Stacey Krum <[email protected]>
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/22/2011 10:46:26 PM
Subject: RE: Starbucks policy on e-cigarettes in stores
Hey Mrs. Vandeventer! I saw about your new gig on Facebook. Very cool. I seem to recall the issue of e-cigarettes
coming up before, perhaps an incident in California. Let me check if we specifically address it in our no smoking
policy or not. Will give you a holler on Monday. Have a great weekend!
_____
From: Bridget Vandeventer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:27 PM
To: Stacey Krum
Subject: Starbucks policy on e-cigarettes in stores
Hello Ms. Stacey Krum,
Let me introduce myself to you. I’ve recently joined the Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department as the
Communications and Community RelationsManager. You may have known me under a different name and in a
different organization, but I can assure you I am the same chipper, spunky Bridget of tick-tock fame. And I miss you
guys dearly!!!
Aside from catching up, I do have a work issue I’d love to chat with you about. We are exploring proposing
regulation to prohibit the use of e-cigarettes in public places in Pierce County, and I’m interested in knowing if
Starbucks Coffee Company has any policies about e-cigarettes in your stores. As an organization dedicated to health
and wellness and creating a safe and welcoming environment for all your customers, I’d love to hear your
perspective.
Could we jump on a call sometime soon to discuss? Facebook told me that you’re volunteering today, so maybe
sometimenext week.
Hope you’re well!
Bridget
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Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: '[email protected]'
Date: 4/22/2011 5:27:04 PM
Subject: Starbucks policy on e-cigarettes in stores
Hello Ms. Stacey Krum,
Let me introduce myself to you. I've recently joined the Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department as the
Communications and Community RelationsManager. You may have known me under a different name and in a
different organization, but I can assure you I am the same chipper, spunky Bridget of tick-tock fame. And I miss you
guys dearly!!!
Aside from catching up, I do have a work issue I'd love to chat with you about. We are exploring proposing
regulation to prohibit the use of e-cigarettes in public places in Pierce County, and I'm interested in knowing if
Starbucks Coffee Company has any policies about e-cigarettes in your stores. As an organization dedicated to health
and wellness and creating a safe and welcoming environment for all your customers, I'd love to hear your
perspective.
Could we jump on a call sometime soon to discuss? Facebook told me that you're volunteering today, so maybe
sometimenext week.
Hope you're well!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Steve Marek
Date: 4/25/2011 3:26:46 PM
Subject: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Hi Steve, I have a couple of questions:
1. Paul (Madigan resident who works in Tobacco prevention) who attended the BOH study session last week would
like to work with us on the Tobacco policy project. Is this okay with you? If so, I thought he could help Tutrecia and
Bruce with doing the supportive research and conducting outreach to the community (e.g. identifyingmedical
providers, Medical Society) to support the testimony component. I would also invite him to participate in meetings. If
okay with you, I'll check in with Nigel to make sure that he's okay with this (apparently, Paul hasn't committed to CD
yet but I think this would be a courtesy to Nigel).
2. Would you like us to try to modify our existing TPCHD No Smoking policy to include e-cigarettes before the next
BOHmeeting?
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Steve Marek
'Gregory Jacoby'
KirstenFrandsen
Tutrecia Giles
Frank Dibiase
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/25/2011 2:02:50 PMSubject: E-cigarettes in the news
I wanted to get a feel for how e-cigarettes were positioned in the news and how other communities are managing the
issue. Here are a few articles I found interesting and relevant to our work here.
SanFrancisco considers banning e-cigarettes
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco &id=8089763
Their regulation sounds the same as what we're proposing. As expected, they have comments from e-cigarette
proponents including Ray Story. I expect he'll get involved here as well.
E-cigarettes included in county smoking ban
http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x1281105974/E-cigarettes-included-in-county-smoking-ban
This article is an account of the BOHmeeting in Richmond, KY. It sounds like it got very heated, and although the
regulation passed it was very tense.
The BetterBusiness Bureauwarns against "free" smokeless cigarette promo
http://www.walletpop.com/2011/04/21/better-business-bureau-warns-against-free-smokeless-cigarette/
Direct E-Cig apparently promoted free starter kits, but customers were then charged up to $200. After complaints
were filed in 44 states, BBB issued a warning about the company.
E-Cigarette bosses thrilled to have chain smoking Charlie Sheen on board
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/e-cigarettes-bosses-thrilled-to-have-chain-smoking-charlie-sheen-
onboard_1212866
Charlie Sheen has been using e-cigarettes on stage during his touring show to avoid the smoking in public places
laws. Not exactly the best spokesperson or role model right now.
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I'll keep my eyes out to see if anything else comes up that may help us in our planning.
Thanks!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
Communications and CommunityRelationsManager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Frank Dibiase
Date: 4/25/2011 4:41:40 PM
Subject: FW: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Hi, forgot to cc: you on this.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:07 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: RE: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Sounds good- thanks
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:04 PM
To: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Ok to 1st question. He should be included in our meetings.
Let's wait on the second until we see what the BOH is going to do.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:27 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Hi Steve, I have a couple of questions:
1. Paul (Madigan resident who works in Tobacco prevention) who attended the BOH study session last week would
like to work with us on the Tobacco policy project. Is this okay with you? If so, I thought he could help Tutrecia and
Bruce with doing the supportive research and conducting outreach to the community (e.g. identifyingmedical
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providers, Medical Society) to support the testimony component. I would also invite him to participate in meetings. If
okay with you, I'll check in with Nigel to make sure that he's okay with this (apparently, Paul hasn't committed to CD
yet but I think this would be a courtesy to Nigel).
2. Would you like us to try to modify our existing TPCHD No Smoking policy to include e-cigarettes before the next
BOHmeeting?
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Selina Chambliss
Date: 4/25/2011 4:28:50 PM
Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Selina, for the May 18th BOH meeting, we're going to use the same title that we used at the last Study Session-
do you have that title?
Thanks!
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:17 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Let's use the same title as we did at the study session. As far as presenting I'm not sure yet. Will decide in next
couple of days. The fee schedule changes don't need to go to the BOH until June 1st.
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Steve, please see below. Do you have a title that you would like to use on the agenda for the May 18th BOH
meeting where we'll present the proposed Tobacco regs?
Also, I wanted to check on who will be presenting at this meeting....
Lastly, I believe that Frank was going to work on the fee schedule but he's on vacation. We wanted to keep these on
the same timeline as the SIPP and E-Cig regs. However; those drafts are due to us by Greg today. Just wanted to
bring this to your attention and ensure this is okay in terms of timeline.
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: SelinaChambliss
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:57 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:TawanaBellamy
Subject: RE: BOH packets
HiKirsten,
Per our phone conversation, if it is a presentation we just need to know what the title of the presentation will be and
who will be presenting by this Friday. We mail out the packets on WednesdayMay 11, so if you have any
documents you would like sent to the Board please have them to us by then. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Selina
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:46 PM
To: SelinaChambliss
Subject: BOH packets
Hi Selina, can you please confirm the date that we need to get to you information for the May 18th BOH packets?
We have some materials for Tobacco that we would like included in the packets.
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Steve Marek
Date: 4/25/2011 4:06:24 PM
Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Steve, please see below. Do you have a title that you would like to use on the agenda for the May 18th BOH
meeting where we'll present the proposed Tobacco regs?
Also, I wanted to check on who will be presenting at this meeting....
Lastly, I believe that Frank was going to work on the fee schedule but he's on vacation. We wanted to keep these on
the same timeline as the SIPP and E-Cig regs. However; those drafts are due to us by Greg today. Just wanted to
bring this to your attention and ensure this is okay in terms of timeline.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: SelinaChambliss
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:57 PM
To: Kirsten FrandsenCc:TawanaBellamy
Subject: RE: BOH packets
HiKirsten,
Per our phone conversation, if it is a presentation we just need to know what the title of the presentation will be andwho will be presenting by this Friday. We mail out the packets on WednesdayMay 11, so if you have any
documents you would like sent to the Board please have them to us by then. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Selina
From: Kirsten Frandsen
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:46 PM
To: SelinaChambliss
Subject: BOH packets
Hi Selina, can you please confirm the date that we need to get to you information for the May 18th BOH packets?
We have some materials for Tobacco that we would like included in the packets.
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Steve Marek
To: Jaime Paulson
Date: 4/25/2011 4:17:58 PM
Subject: FW: Tobacco process and timeline- revised copy 4-25-11
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-25-11.xlsx
Will you print a color copy of this for me. Thanks.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:12 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; Tutrecia Giles; Steve Marek; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Bridget Vandeventer; Frank Dibiase
Subject: Tobacco process and timeline- revised copy 4-25-11
Hi everyone, please see the latest copy of our process/timeline document dated 4-25-11.
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Steve Marek
Date: 4/25/2011 4:06:40 PM
Subject: RE: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Sounds good- thanks
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:04 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Ok to 1st question. He should be included in our meetings.
Let's wait on the second until we see what the BOH is going to do.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:27 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Hi Steve, I have a couple of questions:
1. Paul (Madigan resident who works in Tobacco prevention) who attended the BOH study session last week would
like to work with us on the Tobacco policy project. Is this okay with you? If so, I thought he could help Tutrecia and
Bruce with doing the supportive research and conducting outreach to the community (e.g. identifyingmedical
providers, Medical Society) to support the testimony component. I would also invite him to participate in meetings. If okay with you, I'll check in with Nigel to make sure that he's okay with this (apparently, Paul hasn't committed to CD
yet but I think this would be a courtesy to Nigel).
2. Would you like us to try to modify our existing TPCHD No Smoking policy to include e-cigarettes before the next
BOHmeeting?
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
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Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Steve Marek
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/25/2011 4:04:14 PM
Subject: RE: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Ok to 1st question. He should be included in our meetings.
Let's wait on the second until we see what the BOH is going to do.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:27 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: 2 questions re: Tobacco
Hi Steve, I have a couple of questions:
1. Paul (Madigan resident who works in Tobacco prevention) who attended the BOH study session last week would
like to work with us on the Tobacco policy project. Is this okay with you? If so, I thought he could help Tutrecia and
Bruce with doing the supportive research and conducting outreach to the community (e.g. identifyingmedical
providers, Medical Society) to support the testimony component. I would also invite him to participate in meetings. If
okay with you, I'll check in with Nigel to make sure that he's okay with this (apparently, Paul hasn't committed to CDyet but I think this would be a courtesy to Nigel).
2. Would you like us to try to modify our existing TPCHD No Smoking policy to include e-cigarettes before the next
BOHmeeting?
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Selina Chambliss
Date: 4/25/2011 4:30:34 PM
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Not sure yet- will decide in the next couple of days.
From: SelinaChambliss
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:30 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Sure do. Will you be presenting or Steve?
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:29 PM
To: SelinaChambliss
Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Selina, for the May 18th BOH meeting, we're going to use the same title that we used at the last Study Session-
do you have that title?
Thanks!
From: Steve Marek Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:17 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Let's use the same title as we did at the study session. As far as presenting I'm not sure yet. Will decide in next
couple of days. The fee schedule changes don't need to go to the BOH until June 1st.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Steve Marek
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Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Steve, please see below. Do you have a title that you would like to use on the agenda for the May 18th BOH
meeting where we'll present the proposed Tobacco regs?
Also, I wanted to check on who will be presenting at this meeting....
Lastly, I believe that Frank was going to work on the fee schedule but he's on vacation. We wanted to keep these on
the same timeline as the SIPP and E-Cig regs. However; those drafts are due to us by Greg today. Just wanted to
bring this to your attention and ensure this is okay in terms of timeline.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: SelinaChambliss
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:57 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:TawanaBellamy
Subject: RE: BOH packets
HiKirsten,
Per our phone conversation, if it is a presentation we just need to know what the title of the presentation will be and
who will be presenting by this Friday. We mail out the packets on WednesdayMay 11, so if you have any
documents you would like sent to the Board please have them to us by then. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Selina
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:46 PM
To: SelinaChambliss
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Subject: BOH packets
Hi Selina, can you please confirm the date that we need to get to you information for the May 18th BOH packets?
We have some materials for Tobacco that we would like included in the packets.
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Steve Marek
Date: 4/25/2011 4:28:56 PM
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Got it- thanks
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:17 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Let's use the same title as we did at the study session. As far as presenting I'm not sure yet. Will decide in next
couple of days. The fee schedule changes don't need to go to the BOH until June 1st.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Steve, please see below. Do you have a title that you would like to use on the agenda for the May 18th BOH
meeting where we'll present the proposed Tobacco regs?
Also, I wanted to check on who will be presenting at this meeting....
Lastly, I believe that Frank was going to work on the fee schedule but he's on vacation. We wanted to keep these on
the same timeline as the SIPP and E-Cig regs. However; those drafts are due to us by Greg today. Just wanted to
bring this to your attention and ensure this is okay in terms of timeline.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: SelinaChambliss
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:57 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:TawanaBellamy
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Subject: RE: BOH packets
HiKirsten,
Per our phone conversation, if it is a presentation we just need to know what the title of the presentation will be and
who will be presenting by this Friday. We mail out the packets on WednesdayMay 11, so if you have any
documents you would like sent to the Board please have them to us by then. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Selina
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:46 PM
To: SelinaChambliss
Subject: BOH packets
Hi Selina, can you please confirm the date that we need to get to you information for the May 18th BOH packets?
We have some materials for Tobacco that we would like included in the packets.
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Selina Chambliss
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/25/2011 4:29:56 PM
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Sure do. Will you be presenting or Steve?
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:29 PMTo: Selina ChamblissSubject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Selina, for the May 18th BOH meeting, we’re going to use the same title that we used at the last Study Session-
do you have that title?
Thanks!
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:17 PMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: BOH packets
Let’s use the same title as we did at the study session. As far as presenting I’m not sure yet. Will decide in next
couple of days. The fee schedule changes don’t need to go to the BOH until June 1st .
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:06 PMTo: Steve Marek Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Steve, please see below. Do you have a title that you would like to use on the agenda for the May 18th BOH
meeting where we’ll present the proposed Tobacco regs?
Also, I wanted to check on who will be presenting at this meeting….
Lastly, I believe that Frank was going to work on the fee schedule but he’s on vacation. We wanted to keep these
on the same timeline as the SIPP and E-Cig regs. However; those drafts are due to us by Greg today. Just wanted
to bring this to your attention and ensure this is okay in terms of timeline.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Selina ChamblissSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:57 PMTo: Kirsten FrandsenCc: Tawana BellamySubject: RE: BOH packets
Hi Kirsten,
Per our phone conversation, if it is a presentation we just need to know what the title of the presentation will be
and who will be presenting by this Friday. We mail out the packets on Wednesday May 11, so if you have any
documents you would like sent to the Board please have them to us by then. Let me know if you need anything
else.
Thanks,
Selina
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From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:46 PMTo: Selina ChamblissSubject: BOH packets
Hi Selina, can you please confirm the date that we need to get to you information for the May 18th BOH packets?
We have some materials for Tobacco that we would like included in the packets.
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Program Coordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Steve Marek
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/25/2011 4:17:12 PM
Subject: RE: BOH packets
Let's use the same title as we did at the study session. As far as presenting I'm not sure yet. Will decide in next
couple of days. The fee schedule changes don't need to go to the BOH until June 1st.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Steve Marek
Subject: FW: BOH packets
Hi Steve, please see below. Do you have a title that you would like to use on the agenda for the May 18th BOH
meeting where we'll present the proposed Tobacco regs?
Also, I wanted to check on who will be presenting at this meeting....
Lastly, I believe that Frank was going to work on the fee schedule but he's on vacation. We wanted to keep these onthe same timeline as the SIPP and E-Cig regs. However; those drafts are due to us by Greg today. Just wanted to
bring this to your attention and ensure this is okay in terms of timeline.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: SelinaChamblissSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:57 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:TawanaBellamy
Subject: RE: BOH packets
HiKirsten,
Per our phone conversation, if it is a presentation we just need to know what the title of the presentation will be and
who will be presenting by this Friday. We mail out the packets on WednesdayMay 11, so if you have any
documents you would like sent to the Board please have them to us by then. Let me know if you need anything else.
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Thanks,
Selina
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:46 PM
To: SelinaChambliss
Subject: BOH packets
Hi Selina, can you please confirm the date that we need to get to you information for the May 18th BOH packets?
We have some materials for Tobacco that we would like included in the packets.
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Tutrecia Giles
Date: 4/25/2011 1:15:48 PM
Subject: RE:E-cig/FDA
Hi Tutrecia,
I just realized that I can't access the file you shared because I don't have permissions for the Tobacco folder. Could
you sendme the argument/counter argument database?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:40 AM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: E-cig/FDA
Helloall,
Attached is the latest summation/article I could locate on the recent court effort by the FDA to regulate e-cigs.
Basically, it seems that the courts uphold the assertion by the e-cig manufactures that e-cigs are not
cessation/therapeutic products, but alternative "smokingdevices".The courts continue to rule that because e-cigs are
a type of recreational device, the FDA can regulate e-cigs like any other tobacco product, which is via marketing
regulations. The FDA won't be able to regulate any ingredients, including nicotine levels.
1. If e-cigs companies are saying that they are for "smoking pleasure only, not cessation" Why can't e-cigs be treated
like any other smoking product? ( i.e. SIPP/not to minors)
2. There is no evidence or claims by the manufactures that there isn't any harm to the environment or the individual
3. The e-cig manufactures state that the e-cigs includes some toxic chemicals, but no research done to see if the
vapors truly dissipate. One simply can't smell an odor, which implies nothing. (this is stated in the product warning
labels)
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4. e-cigs are legal, adults can choose to use them as intended or not intended
5. We're not against a new nicotine replacement therapy, but this is not what the product was designed for or tested
to do.
6. If e-cigs are not banned from public spaces, 1. We don't know anything about the second hand mist 2.this may be
a trigger for past smoking to start smoking again 3. current regular smokers could say if they can "vape" indoors, why
can't I smoke indoors 4. Bruce mention the possible overall SIPP enforcement challenges
I have started an argument/counter argument database. Also, there are e-cigs articles and a pending list of e-cig
retailers. It is located at G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\YouthTobacco\E Cigarettes -tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/25/2011 1:21:26 PM
Subject: RE:E-cig/FDA
Attachments: Regulation Arguments.docx
Here you go.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:16 AM
To: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: RE:E-cig/FDA
Hi Tutrecia,
I just realized that I can't access the file you shared because I don't have permissions for the Tobacco folder. Could
you sendme the argument/counter argument database?
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:40 AM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: E-cig/FDA
Helloall,
Attached is the latest summation/article I could locate on the recent court effort by the FDA to regulate e-cigs.
Basically, it seems that the courts uphold the assertion by the e-cig manufactures that e-cigs are not
cessation/therapeutic products, but alternative "smokingdevices".The courts continue to rule that because e-cigs are
a type of recreational device, the FDA can regulate e-cigs like any other tobacco product, which is via marketing
regulations. The FDA won't be able to regulate any ingredients, including nicotine levels.
1. If e-cigs companies are saying that they are for "smoking pleasure only, not cessation" Why can't e-cigs be treated
like any other smoking product? ( i.e. SIPP/not to minors)
2. There is no evidence or claims by the manufactures that there isn't any harm to the environment or the individual
3. The e-cig manufactures state that the e-cigs includes some toxic chemicals, but no research done to see if the
vapors truly dissipate. One simply can't smell an odor, which implies nothing. (this is stated in the product warning
labels)
4. e-cigs are legal, adults can choose to use them as intended or not intended
5. We're not against a new nicotine replacement therapy, but this is not what the product was designed for or tested
to do.
6. If e-cigs are not banned from public spaces, 1. We don't know anything about the second hand mist 2.this may be
a trigger for past smoking to start smoking again 3. current regular smokers could say if they can "vape" indoors, why
can't I smoke indoors 4. Bruce mention the possible overall SIPP enforcement challenges
I have started an argument/counter argument database. Also, there are e-cigs articles and a pending list of e-cig
retailers. It is located at G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\YouthTobacco\E Cigarettes -tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Madigan Resident
Date: 4/25/2011 4:38:16 PM
Subject: RE:E-cigarettes
Hi Paul, I would be happy to talk with you. I am available until 3 PM today and tomorrow between 10 and 2.
Do any of these times work for you?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: MadiganResident
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:09 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: E-cigarettes
Kirsten,
I was wondering if you had a moment at some point to discuss ways in which I could assist the e-cigarette issues.
I am available for most of the day today or tomorrow.
Thank you!
Paul Faestel
MadiganPreventiveMedicine resident
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From: Madigan Resident
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/25/2011 5:44:58 PM
Subject: RE:E-cigarettes
So sorry...just got back from a meeting. I have another meeting tomorrow at Madigan.
Would there be a good time on Wednesday?
Thanks,
Paul Faestel
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:38 PM
To:Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes
Hi Paul, I would be happy to talk with you. I am available until 3 PM today and tomorrow between 10 and 2.
Do any of these times work for you?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: MadiganResident
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:09 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: E-cigarettes
Kirsten,
I was wondering if you had a moment at some point to discuss ways in which I could assist the e-cigarette issues.
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I am available for most of the day today or tomorrow.
Thank you!
Paul Faestel
MadiganPreventiveMedicine resident
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From: Steve Marek
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/25/2011 4:10:36 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes in the news
Thanks. Might want to share with AC.
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Steve Marek; 'Gregory Jacoby'; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles; Frank Dibiase; Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cigarettes in the news
I wanted to get a feel for how e-cigarettes were positioned in the news and how other communities are managing the
issue. Here are a few articles I found interesting and relevant to our work here.
SanFrancisco considers banning e-cigarettes
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco &id=8089763
Their regulation sounds the same as what we're proposing. As expected, they have comments from e-cigarette
proponents including Ray Story. I expect he'll get involved here as well.
E-cigarettes included in county smoking ban
http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x1281105974/E-cigarettes-included-in-county-smoking-ban
This article is an account of the BOHmeeting in Richmond, KY. It sounds like it got very heated, and although the
regulation passed it was very tense.
The BetterBusiness Bureauwarns against "free" smokeless cigarette promo
http://www.walletpop.com/2011/04/21/better-business-bureau-warns-against-free-smokeless-cigarette/
Direct E-Cig apparently promoted free starter kits, but customers were then charged up to $200. After complaints
were filed in 44 states, BBB issued a warning about the company.
E-Cigarette bosses thrilled to have chain smoking Charlie Sheen on board
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/e-cigarettes-bosses-thrilled-to-have-chain-smoking-charlie-sheen-
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onboard_1212866
Charlie Sheen has been using e-cigarettes on stage during his touring show to avoid the smoking in public places
laws. Not exactly the best spokesperson or role model right now.
I'll keep my eyes out to see if anything else comes up that may help us in our planning.
Thanks!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
Communications and CommunityRelationsManager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: 'StaceyKrum'
Date: 4/25/2011 12:45:16 PM
Subject: RE: Starbucks policy on e-cigarettes in stores
Thank you so much!
Seeing your name in my inbox makes me happy. J I miss you guys!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Stacey Krum [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:46 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: RE: Starbucks policy on e-cigarettes in stores
Hey Mrs. Vandeventer! I saw about your new gig on Facebook. Very cool. I seem to recall the issue of e-cigarettes
coming up before, perhaps an incident in California. Let me check if we specifically address it in our no smoking
policy or not. Will give you a holler on Monday. Have a great weekend!
_____
From: Bridget Vandeventer [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:27 PM
To: Stacey Krum
Subject: Starbucks policy on e-cigarettes in stores
Hello Ms. Stacey Krum,
Let me introduce myself to you. I've recently joined the Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department as the
Communications and Community RelationsManager. You may have known me under a different name and in adifferent organization, but I can assure you I am the same chipper, spunky Bridget of tick-tock fame. And I miss you
guys dearly!!!
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Aside from catching up, I do have a work issue I'd love to chat with you about. We are exploring proposing
regulation to prohibit the use of e-cigarettes in public places in Pierce County, and I'm interested in knowing if
Starbucks Coffee Company has any policies about e-cigarettes in your stores. As an organization dedicated to health
and wellness and creating a safe and welcoming environment for all your customers, I'd love to hear your
perspective.
Could we jump on a call sometime soon to discuss? Facebook told me that you're volunteering today, so maybe
sometimenext week.
Hope you're well!
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: George Hermosillo
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/25/2011 11:50:30 AM
Subject: RE: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Kirsten,
I did see it and printed it out.
Thank you,
GeorgeHermosillo, B.A; SDVC
Prevention Specialist
Environmental Health:
Physical Activity and Nutrition/ TobaccoPrevention andControl
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
3629 So. D St.
Tacoma, Wa. 98418
(253) 798-7664
(253) 405-8244 cell
(253 798-6450 fax
email: [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 5:51 AM
To: GeorgeHermosillo
Subject: FW: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Hi George, I wanted to point out the Smoke Free Housing Manual to you (link below) in case you haven't seen it.
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Thanks, Kirsten
From: Adria Moskowitz
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:55 PM
To: Tobacco PC
Subject: FW: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
From: Bill Godshall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:04 PM
To: Bill Godshall
Subject: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Smokefree Air
CDC issuesHealthy Homes Manual:Smokefree Policies inMultiunit Housing
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyhomes/Healthy_Homes_Manual_WEB.pdf
E-cigarettes
New ZealandMinistry ofHealth tells ParliamentaryCommittee that e-cigaretteusage "is far safer than smoking"
http://www.endsmoking.org.nz/ecigarette.htm
http://www.endsmoking.org.nz/MoH%20on%20ecigs%20etc.pdf
"As the e-cigarette delivers only nicotine in a mist of propylene glycol, without the other 4,000 or so other chemicals
in tobacco smoke, it is far safer than smoking." "The current safety data would therefore suggest that the e-cigarette
poses few risks to people, and is safer than continuing to smoke."
Japanese study finds e-cigarettes reduce cigarette consumption, and may be safe alternative to cigarettes
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/seikatsueisei/55/1/55_59/_article
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NYC Councilman Vallone proposes ordinance to ban e-cigarette sales to minors and to ban usage of e-cigarettes in
locations were smoking is banned, referred to HealthCommittee.
http://www.gothamgazette.com/blogs/wonkster/2011/04/20/turn-off-that-cigarette/
http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=862333&GUID=025C4F6D-8529-4E05-9786-
3942C2DAFD59&Options=ID%7cText%7c&Search=electronic
Tennessee House Agriculture Sub Committee amends bill (HB 1729) to no longer ban e-cigarette sales to adults
(would still ban e-cigarette sales tominors)
http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=112&clip_id=4110 (click on HB 1729 at lower left to watch
Cmte meeting)
http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB1729
ECigarette Users, you ARE smarter (or at least you think you are!)
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2011/04/ecigarette-users-you-are-smarter-or-at-least-you-think-
you-are.html
Article misrepresents the negligable risks of e-cigarettes and3rdhand smoke, urges doctors to similarlymislead
smokers
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068875/pdf/ijgm-4-115.pdf
US Tobacco Markets
Altria reported a 6.5% decrease in cigarette volumes for March, 1.3% decrease in smokeless tobacco volumes.
Reynolds reported a 5.2% decrease in cigarette volumes for March, 13.2% increase in smokeless tobacco volumes.
SmokelessTobacco / Dissolvables
CASAA's Call To Action against Oregon bill (HB 5388) that would ban sales of flavored dissolvable tobacco
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products
http://www.casaa.org/CTA/article.asp?articleID=149&l=a&p
http://www.leg.state.or.us/11reg/measures/hb3500.dir/hb3588.intro.html
Oregon House Human Services Cmte holds hearing on HB 3588; prohibitionists call smokefree tobacco products
"candy", grossly misrepresent health/safety risks and allege target marketing to youth
http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/archive/archive.2011s/HHS-201104200800.ram (click on part 2 of 3 clips to begin
HB3588 hearing)
http://www.leg.state.or.us/committees/exhib2web/2011reg/HHS/hhs.htm (HB 3588 hearing exhibits presented)
Testimony by CASAA's Thad Marney opposing HB 3588
http://www.casaa.org/news/article.asp?articleID=152&l=a&p=
Cigarettes
Survey finds 38% of smokers in US, Canada, UK and Australia incorrectly believe nicotine in cigarettes "causes
most cancer", and many smokers incorrectly believe so-called lights andultralights are less hazardous than other
cigarettes.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2011.03402.x/abstract
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/w-sb041111.php
Sen. Richard Blumenthal urges FDA to create untaxed and unregulated black market for menthol cigarettes
http://blumenthal.senate.gov/press/release/index.cfm?id=02245A93-B6F5-4DC1-8251-D2564DEB9A65
FDATobacco/Nicotine Product Regulation
Scott Ballin: Observations on the important role of science in the development of tobacco, nicotine and other
alternative harm reduction products in a "New Era" of product regulation
http://vapersforum.com/showthread.php?p=638782#post638782
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YouthSmoking Prevention
Long time opponent of increasing minimum cigarette sales age, Glantz finds/acknowledges that doing so significantly
reduced youth smoking in England
http://thorax.bmj.com/content/early/2011/04/07/thx.2010.154963.abstract
Raise age to buy cigarettes to 21 (note that states can do so, PA did so prior to 2002, UT/AK/AL ban tobacco
sales to minors under 19, but the FSPTCA prohibits the FDA from banning cigarette sales even to 12th grade high
school students)
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/04/18/steinberg.smoking.teens/
http://www.ksu.edu.sa/sites/KSUArabic/Research/ncys/Documents/666.pdf
Conflicts of Interest
New report on conflicts of interest among health foundations and for-profit drug and food corporations
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001020
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/plos-clo040611.php
After partnering with drug companies for past decade to promote NRT and to oppose all other smokefree
tobacco/nicotine alternatives for smokers, WHO warns anti-smoking campaigners not to become too close to drugfirms
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d2430.short
Drug industry protection policies adopted/recommendedbyWHO(regarding tobacco) include:
WHOTobRegmisrepresents smokeless tobacco risks, urges sales bans and unsubstantiated regulations
http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/brisbane_2002_smokeless/en/index.html
WHO TobReg urges banningelectronic cigarettes, imposing more unsubstantiated regulations for smokeless tobacco
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http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/publications/tsr_955/en/index.html
WHO TobReg opposes smokeless tobacco as harm reduction alternative for smokers
http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/publications/tsr_951/en/index.html
WHO urges taxing smokeless tobacco at same rate as far more hazardous cigarettes
http://www.who.int/tobacco/publications/tax_administration/en/index.html
WHO TobReg urges banning flavored tobacco products, but not flavored NRT products
http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/9789241209458.pdf
WHO claimsall tobacco products similarly deadly
http://www.who.int/tobacco/resources/publications/wntd/2006/en/index.html
Tobacco Prohibition
Bhutan: A new criminal class
http://www.kuenselonline.com/2010/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19124
Bill Godshall
Executive Director
Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 MonongahelaAvenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: George Hermosillo
Date: 4/25/2011 12:47:02 PM
Subject: RE: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Great!
From: George HermosilloSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 8:51 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Kirsten,
I did see it and printed it out.
Thank you,
George Hermosillo, B.A; SDVCPrevention Specialist
Environmental Health:
Physical Activity and Nutrition/ Tobacco Prevention and Control
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
3629 So. D St.
Tacoma, Wa. 98418
(253) 798-7664
(253) 405-8244 cell
(253 798-6450 fax
email: [email protected]
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Monday, April 25, 2011 5:51 AMTo: George HermosilloSubject: FW: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Hi George, I wanted to point out the Smoke Free Housing Manual to you (link below) in case you haven’t seen it.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Adria MoskowitzSent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:55 PMTo: Tobacco PCSubject: FW: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
From: Bill Godshall [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:04 PM
To: Bill GodshallSubject: Tobacco Harm Reduction Update (4/22/11)
Smokefree Air
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CDC issuesHealthy Homes Manual:Smokefree Policies inMultiunit Housing
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyhomes/Healthy_Homes_Manual_WEB.pdf
E-cigarettes
New ZealandMinistry ofHealth tells ParliamentaryCommittee that e-cigaretteusage "is far safer than smoking"http://www.endsmoking.org.nz/ecigarette.htm
http://www.endsmoking.org.nz/MoH%20on%20ecigs%20etc.pdf
“As the e-cigarette delivers only nicotine in a mist of propylene glycol, without the other 4,000 or so other chemicalsin tobacco smoke, it is far safer than smoking.” "The current safety data would therefore suggest that the e-cigarette
poses few risks to people, and is safer than continuing to smoke."
Japanese study finds e-cigarettes reduce cigarette consumption, and may be safe alternative to cigaretteshttp://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/seikatsueisei/55/1/55_59/_article
NYC Councilman Vallone proposes ordinance to ban e-cigarette sales to minors and to ban usage of e-cigarettes in
locations were smoking is banned, referred to HealthCommittee.http://www.gothamgazette.com/blogs/wonkster/2011/04/20/turn-off-that-cigarette/
http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=862333&GUID=025C4F6D-8529-4E05-9786-
3942C2DAFD59&Options=ID%7cText%7c&Search=electronic
Tennessee House Agriculture Sub Committee amends bill (HB 1729) to no longer ban e-cigarette sales to adults
(would still ban e-cigarette sales tominors)
http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=112&clip_id=4110 (click on HB 1729 at lower left to watch Cmte
meeting)
http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB1729
ECigarette Users, you ARE smarter (or at least you think you are!)http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2011/04/ecigarette-users-you-are-smarter-or-at-least-you-think-you-are.html
Article misrepresents the negligable risks of e-cigarettes and3rdhand smoke, urges doctors to similarlymislead
smokershttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068875/pdf/ijgm-4-115.pdf
US Tobacco Markets
Altria reported a 6.5% decrease in cigarette volumes for March, 1.3% decrease in smokeless tobacco volumes.
Reynolds reported a 5.2% decrease in cigarette volumes for March, 13.2% increase in smokeless tobacco volumes.
Smokeless Tobacco / Dissolvables
CASAA's Call To Action against Oregon bill (HB 5388) that would ban sales of flavored dissolvable tobacco
productshttp://www.casaa.org/CTA/article.asp?articleID=149&l=a&p
http://www.leg.state.or.us/11reg/measures/hb3500.dir/hb3588.intro.html
Oregon House Human Services Cmte holds hearing on HB 3588; prohibitionists call smokefree tobacco products
"candy", grossly misrepresent health/safety risks and allege target marketing to youth
http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/archive/archive.2011s/HHS-201104200800.ram (click on part 2 of 3 clips to begin HB 3588
hearing) http://www.leg.state.or.us/committees/exhib2web/2011reg/HHS/hhs.htm (HB 3588 hearing exhibits presented)
Testimony by CASAA's Thad Marney opposing HB 3588http://www.casaa.org/news/article.asp?articleID=152&l=a&p=
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Cigarettes
Survey finds 38% of smokers in US, Canada, UK and Australia incorrectly believe nicotine in cigarettes "causes
most cancer", and many smokers incorrectly believe so-called lights andultralights are less hazardous than other
cigarettes.http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2011.03402.x/abstract
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/w-sb041111.php
Sen. Richard Blumenthal urges FDA to create untaxed and unregulated black market for menthol cigaretteshttp://blumenthal.senate.gov/press/release/index.cfm?id=02245A93-B6F5-4DC1-8251-D2564DEB9A65
FDATobacco/Nicotine Product Regulation
Scott Ballin: Observations on the important role of science in the development of tobacco, nicotine and other
alternative harm reduction products in a "New Era" of product regulationhttp://vapersforum.com/showthread.php?p=638782#post638782
Youth SmokingPrevention
Long time opponent of increasing minimum cigarette sales age, Glantz finds/acknowledges that doing so significantly
reduced youth smoking in Englandhttp://thorax.bmj.com/content/early/2011/04/07/thx.2010.154963.abstract
Raise age to buy cigarettes to 21 (note that states can do so, PA did so prior to 2002, UT/AK/AL ban tobacco
sales to minors under 19, but the FSPTCA prohibits the FDA from banning cigarette sales even to 12th grade high
school students)http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/04/18/steinberg.smoking.teens/
http://www.ksu.edu.sa/sites/KSUArabic/Research/ncys/Documents/666.pdf
Conflicts of Interest
New report on conflicts of interest among health foundations and for-profit drug and food corporationshttp://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001020
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/plos-clo040611.php
After partnering with drug companies for past decade to promote NRT and to oppose all other smokefree
tobacco/nicotine alternatives for smokers, WHO warns anti-smoking campaigners not to become too close to drug
firms
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d2430.short
Drug industry protection policies adopted/recommendedbyWHO(regarding tobacco) include:
WHOTobReg misrepresents smokeless tobacco risks, urges sales bans and unsubstantiated regulations
http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/brisbane_2002_smokeless/en/index.html
WHO TobReg urges banning electronic cigarettes, imposingmore unsubstantiated regulations for smokeless
tobaccohttp://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/publications/tsr_955/en/index.html
WHO TobReg opposes smokeless tobacco as harm reduction alternative for smokers
http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/publications/tsr_951/en/index.html
WHO urges taxing smokeless tobacco at same rate as far more hazardous cigaretteshttp://www.who.int/tobacco/publications/tax_administration/en/index.html
WHO TobReg urges banning flavored tobacco products, but not flavored NRT products
http://www.who.int/tobacco/global_interaction/tobreg/9789241209458.pdf
WHO claimsall tobacco products similarly deadly
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http://www.who.int/tobacco/resources/publications/wntd/2006/en/index.html
Tobacco Prohibition
Bhutan: A new criminal classhttp://www.kuenselonline.com/2010/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19124
Bill Godshall
ExecutiveDirector Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 Monongahela Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Tutrecia Giles
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/25/2011 6:57:18 PMSubject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attachments: May 2011 Tobacco Regulations_Key Messages and Q&A.docx
May 2011 Tobacco Regulations_Comm Plan.docx
I've also attached the communications plan with the edits we discussed on Friday. Some of the dates may flex, but I
believe this is what we settled on during the meeting.
I'm also attaching my first draft of key messages and Q&A for both regulations. These are some pretty difficult
questions, so I'd love any feedback you have on these. There are some places where I called out a need for help,
confirmationormore information in the text.
Thanks for your help!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
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Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Bridget Vandeventer
'Gregory Jacoby'
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/25/2011 7:16:00 PMSubject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Bridget,
Great Q & A document. I will look for information to support question #17.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) [email protected]
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:57 PM
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles; Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
I've also attached the communications plan with the edits we discussed on Friday. Some of the dates may flex, but I
believe this is what we settled on during the meeting.
I'm also attaching my first draft of key messages and Q&A for both regulations. These are some pretty difficult
questions, so I'd love any feedback you have on these. There are some places where I called out a need for help,
confirmationormore information in the text.
Thanks for your help!
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior
changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bruce Rytkonen
Tutrecia Giles
Steve Marek
'Gregory Jacoby'
Bridget Vandeventer
Frank Dibiase
Date: 4/25/2011 4:11:42 PMSubject: Tobacco process and timeline- revised copy 4-25-11
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-25-11.xlsx
Hi everyone, please see the latest copy of our process/timeline document dated 4-25-11.
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/25/2011 6:36:58 PMSubject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 042511.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 042511.docx
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday’s meeting. All
prior changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday’s
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with cleanversions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Bruce Rytkonen
'Gregory Jacoby'
Frank Dibiase
Steve Marek
Tutrecia Giles
Date: 4/26/2011 6:15:08 PMSubject: Change in Date for Public Meeting- moved to Monday, May 16th from 6-7 PM
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-26-11.xlsx
Hi everyone,
Due to timing issues, we again need to change the date of our Public Meeting to Monday, May 16th from 6-7 PM.
The auditorium has been booked for this purpose.
Selina, Bridget and I are working to revise the ads for the papers of record.
Tutricia, would you be able to check in with Sebrena about this change?
The new Tobacco Process and Timeline with this change is attached.
Thanks,
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Steve Marek
To: Anthony Chen
Date: 4/26/2011 1:28:28 PM
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 042511.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 042511.docx
fyi
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior
changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/26/2011 2:47:50 PM
Subject: Online discount of e-cigarettes
Look what I found right after we were talking about this.
LeadingElectronic Cigarette Retailer LaunchesNewSale
Online PR News (press release)
The demand for quality in e-cigarettes is rising, amid various tobacco bans. Smokers who either do not wish to quit,
or find that they cannot, are switching to e-cigarettes. E-cigarettes are a viable answer for many long term smokers
who work in no ...
Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: TutreciaGiles
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/26/2011 4:47:44 PM
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
I believe that lots of the people/organizations in the e-cig list can be asked to comment on the SIPP regulation.
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Speakers/e-cigs
Hello,
Here's what I have from our talk yesterday. Please correct or add. I add a few names and ask for some assist from
Sam and Hanna.-tg
E-cigs
1.American Heart Association(Sam)
2. DOH
3. Seattle King County Health Dept
4. Non Tribal Casino (512 American casino)
5. ALAW (Sam)
6. ACS (Sam)
7. E-cigarette expert -(tg Emailed Judy Olsen , out of office til 5/3)
8. LawEnforcement (Hanna, liquor licensing board)
9. Bars and Taverns
10. Ram (waterfront)
11. Clark County
12. Multicare
13. Dr.Waltman-Lori Tanner
14. Tacoma Mall- Steven Heim
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15. Applebee's /Red Robin /Denny's (tg. Visited locations in Lakewood 4/25 spoke w/ managers)
16. McDonald's(tg)
17. Youth that smoked cigs and now smokes e-cig
18. Youth that never smoked but now smokes e-cig
19. Tacoma Pierce Transit- Scott Morris and Justin??
20. Pierce County Medical Society- Kirsten will contact director
21. Boys and Girls - Mark Stern (Kirsten has worked w/)
22. Goodwill's Reach- Kurt Miller (Kirsten has worked w/)
23. PSESD-Wendi Miller( meeting w/ her next week)
24. Past complainants ( ie.SIPP)
25. Americans forNon-SmokersRights
26. Tobacco Free Kids
27.Golf Courses-Club house
SIPP
1. Lawenforcement
2. Past complainants
3. Nan Hogan
4. Americans forNon-SmokersRights
5. Clean Air..?
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Bruce Rytkonen
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/26/2011 7:36:10 PM
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
I agree some of the groups can have a dual purpose.-tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) [email protected]
From: Bruce Rytkonen
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:48 PM
To: TutreciaGiles; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
I believe that lots of the people/organizations in the e-cig list can be asked to comment on the SIPP regulation.
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Speakers/e-cigs
Hello,
Here's what I have from our talk yesterday. Please correct or add. I add a few names and ask for some assist from
Sam and Hanna.-tg
E-cigs
1.American Heart Association(Sam)
2. DOH
3. Seattle King County Health Dept
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4. Non Tribal Casino (512 American casino)
5. ALAW (Sam)
6. ACS (Sam)
7. E-cigarette expert -(tg Emailed Judy Olsen , out of office til 5/3)
8. LawEnforcement (Hanna, liquor licensing board)
9. Bars and Taverns
10. Ram (waterfront)
11. Clark County
12. Multicare
13. Dr.Waltman-Lori Tanner
14. Tacoma Mall- Steven Heim
15. Applebee's /Red Robin /Denny's (tg. Visited locations in Lakewood 4/25 spoke w/ managers)
16. McDonald's(tg)
17. Youth that smoked cigs and now smokes e-cig
18. Youth that never smoked but now smokes e-cig
19. Tacoma Pierce Transit- Scott Morris and Justin??
20. Pierce County Medical Society- Kirsten will contact director
21. Boys and Girls - Mark Stern (Kirsten has worked w/)
22. Goodwill's Reach- Kurt Miller (Kirsten has worked w/)
23. PSESD-Wendi Miller( meeting w/ her next week)
24. Past complainants ( ie.SIPP)
25. Americans forNon-SmokersRights
26. Tobacco Free Kids
27.Golf Courses-Club house
SIPP
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1. Lawenforcement
2. Past complainants
3. Nan Hogan
4. Americans forNon-SmokersRights
5. Clean Air..?
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/26/2011 11:47:34 AMSubject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Greg.....I have a few minor items:
SIPP
11.B. As we're not including the box diagram with the reinspection fees, I suggest that in the second line that we
delete "the following"
E-CIG
6. As the intent of this paragraph includes both the sale and giving or furnishing of electronic smoking devices, it
seems to me that the title should cover more than just the sale of esd's. So I'd like to suggest that the title be changed
to "Sale or Providing toMinors Prohibited"
10. Enforcement [ I guess I missed that portion of our meeting when it was decided that the penalties for violations
will be listed in this regulation.Anyway.....]
In Subsection B.....as a "seller" may not be someone who gives away or furnishes an esd to a minor, we may want to
delete "on sellers" from B.
Section 12 Reinspection should be changed to be Section 11 (and in 10.C. "12" should be changed to "11"), and the
remaining sections should have their numbersupdated.
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From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior
changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
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From: Steve Marek
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/26/2011 10:41:04 AMSubject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
These need to be in final form to go public on Monday correct? I would anticipate sending these out with the BOH
package for the May 18th meeting which means the deadline is Friday. Looked at the timeline and didn't see this in
there. I will share these with Anthony today. Thanks.
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior
changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday'scomments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
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From: Steve Marek
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Date: 4/26/201110:55:02 AM
Subject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPPRegulations
I will call you thisa.m. re this. any timebetter than another?
From:Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 20113:37PM
To: Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; KirstenFrandsen; Tutrecia Giles; BruceRytkonen;Bridget Vandeventer
Subject:Updated E-Cig and SIPPRegulations
Attachedare the updated E-Cig and SIPPregulations that incorporate the comments fromFriday'smeeting.All prior
changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in theattached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unlessyou haveadditionalchanges (or find typos), I would proposedtoprovide the BOH withclean
versionsof these two documents for theMay 18thmeeting.
Greg
GregoryA. Jacoby
McGavickGraves,P.S.
1102Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA98402
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From: Brad Costello
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/26/2011 2:05:48 PM
Subject: RE: Website page for Tobacco regs
I can create a web form that would allow people to enter a comment, or additional information if needed, and submit
it via the web to an email address here. I agree with Bridget's suggestion of using a generic name for the email
address; the Help Desk can set up a new Outlook resource for us fairly quickly. With a generic account anyone in
Tobacco could review the comment emails.
I would shy away from using SurveyMonkey only because of records retention requirements.
Brad
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:52 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Brad Costello; TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: Website page for Tobacco regs
Thanks for your help Brad!
I'll get you all the copy for the page. We might want to look into some graphics for it, although I'm ok with this being
mainly text withminor formatting.
For feedback, we can go one of three routes. The simplest would just be an email address (directed to Tutrecia, butwe could use an alias like [email protected]) with an ask for people to share their feedback. Another
route would be to set up a SurveyMonkey link, and ask some really targeted questions and some open ended one
for feedback. And then we could combine the two and offer both options.
If we're really serious about collecting feedback and doing something with it, then I'd say go with the last option and
make ourselves as open as possible to hearing what people say. But we have to expect that we'll get feedback from
e-cigarette advocate groups all over the country who will flood the site. And then we have to decide how we
capture, analyze and take or disregard all that feedback.
Let me know what you think.
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:15 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: Website page for Tobacco regs
Hi Bridget,
I spoke with Brad Costello in EH who is our website guru. He is happy to help build the webpage we need for the
Tobacco regs by Thursday of this week. I told him that we would get him the content by Thursday AM.
However; I forgot to ask Brad about how to best get input from the public on the proposed regulations through the
website. Brad- are you able to develop a mechanism that would allow comments from the public on the proposed
regs? Bridget- did you have specific ideas on this that you could share with Brad?
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/26/2011 1:51:48 PM
Subject: RE: Website page for Tobacco regs
Thanks for your help Brad!
I'll get you all the copy for the page. We might want to look into some graphics for it, although I'm ok with this being
mainly text withminor formatting.
For feedback, we can go one of three routes. The simplest would just be an email address (directed to Tutrecia, but
we could use an alias like [email protected]) with an ask for people to share their feedback. Another
route would be to set up a SurveyMonkey link, and ask some really targeted questions and some open ended one
for feedback. And then we could combine the two and offer both options.
If we're really serious about collecting feedback and doing something with it, then I'd say go with the last option and
make ourselves as open as possible to hearing what people say. But we have to expect that we'll get feedback from
e-cigarette advocate groups all over the country who will flood the site. And then we have to decide how we
capture, analyze and take or disregard all that feedback.
Let me know what you think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:15 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: Website page for Tobacco regs
Hi Bridget,
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I spoke with Brad Costello in EH who is our website guru. He is happy to help build the webpage we need for the
Tobacco regs by Thursday of this week. I told him that we would get him the content by Thursday AM.
However; I forgot to ask Brad about how to best get input from the public on the proposed regulations through the
website. Brad- are you able to develop a mechanism that would allow comments from the public on the proposed
regs? Bridget- did you have specific ideas on this that you could share with Brad?
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/27/2011 1:21:54 PM
Subject: FW: GASP #2
More….part 2.
From: Bruce RytkonenSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:36 AMTo: Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia GilesSubject: GASP #2
Here’s the second e-mail from Karen at GASP.
The first link has to do with e-cigs and is fairly short.
The Westlaw Document is their formal SIPP regulation and it’s a monster.
From: Karen Haines [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:54 AMTo: Bruce RytkonenCc: [email protected]; [email protected]: RE: TCPHD ordinance on e-cigarette ban on sale to minors ? - consult
Hi Bruce,
Here is a copy of the NJ State Smokefree Air Act that defines “electronic smoking devices” and bans theuse of electronic smoking devices in public places and workplaces. You can search the 2006 Act for theword “electronic” to see where the Act was changed. http://njgasp.org/sfaa_2010_w-ecigs.pdf
Here is a link to the 2007 Regulations that the NJ State Dept of Health created to help implement the2006 Act. In particular, the definition of an indoor public place refers to volunteers, etc. See NJAC 8:6-1.2 on pg 81. The definition of smoking also includes hookah, as per the 2007 regulations. You cansearch the pdf for “hookah” to read the discussion on that subject.http://njgasp.org/h1_SFAA_regs_Westlaw_Document_13_12_44%5B1%5D.pdf
One of our concerns with e-cigarettes are that the secondhand smoke/vapor has not been scientificallytested and published in peer-review journals, demonstrating their safety. From the perspective of persons who have breathing disabilities, vapors that contain propylene glycol which are a trigger forasthma attacks.
Also, the e-cigarette retailers have a financial interest in the product which explains why they oppose
laws that restrict the use of e-cigs in public places and workplaces, just like the tobacco industry whichopposes smokefree air laws. The FDA stated that they will now be classifying e-cigs as tobaccoproducts, which means that NO e-cig retailer, producer, distributor, etc. should be claiming that theirproduct is used for smoking cessation purposes, since only FDA approved smoking cessation devices canmake that claim.
Lastly, tobacco control advocates and health departments have made great strides in denormalizingsmoking, by passing comprehensive smokefree air laws in public places and workplaces. Amendingsmokefree air laws to include a ban on e-cigarette use helps to continue the denormalizing of smoking orvaping any product that contains nicotine, since nicotine use can negatively affect health conditions,and increases the risk of diabetes.
Please let me know if we can be of further help.
Best regards,Karen Blumenfeld, Esq.Executive DirectorGlobal Advisors on Smokefree Policy (GASP)
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7 Cedar St., Suite A, Summit, NJ 07901(908)273-9368 office(908)273-9222 [email protected]
From: Karen Haines [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:01 PMTo: '[email protected]'
Cc: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'Subject: TCPHD ordinance on e-cigarette ban on sale to minors?
Bruce RytkonenTacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Dear Bruce,
Julie Scholer from the Spokane County health department suggested I email you to find out where theCounty is with regards to a proposal to ban the sale of e-cigarettes to minors, and if you are alsoconsidering a ban on the use of e-cigs in public places and workplaces where smoking is currentlybanned.
Our nonprofit publishes a white paper supporting restrictions on e-cigarettes that lists jurisdictions thathave already banned or are considering a ban on the sale of e-cigs to minors, and use of e-cigs in publicplaces and workplaces. Please feel free to circulate the white paper to your County’s health commissionduring their hearing on the ordinance. http://njgasp.org/E-Cigs_White_Paper.pdf
We provided technical assistance to the NJ Legislature, which was the first state jurisdiction in the USAto ban the use of e-cigs in public places and workplaces where smoking is banned as well as banningtheir sale to minors.
Look forward to hearing from you soon. Please respond using ‘reply all’. Tx.
Karen Haines
Finance and Technology AdministratorGlobal Advisors on Smokefree Policy (GASP)7 Cedar St., Suite A, Summit, NJ 07901(908)273-9368 office(908)273-9222 [email protected]
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Madigan Resident
Frank Dibiase
Bridget Vandeventer
Bruce Rytkonen
TutreciaGiles
Date: 4/27/2011 3:11:40 PM
Subject: FW: Smoking RegsAttachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 042711.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 042711.docx
Fyi.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:02 PMTo: Steve Marek; Kirsten FrandsenSubject: Smoking Regs
Steve and Kirsten,I have attached the local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. The documents incorporate the edits that Steve andI discussed yesterday with Dr. Chen.
In addition, I have added a subsection to the enforcement section of both regulations that allows the prevailingparty to recoup its reasonable attorney’s fees and costs in a proceeding before the hearing examiner or any
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Tobacco PC
PAN
Date: 4/27/2011 12:41:26 PM
Subject: FW: Speakers/e-cigs
Helloall,
Below is a list of possible speakers at the upcoming May 18th BOH meeting. At that meeting the following
regulations will be discussed.
1. Smoking in Public Places (SIPP) Definitions( words like, employee, volunteer )
2. Enforcement of SIPP (Fines and fees for violations/reinspection)
3.E-cigs- prohibit sells to >18yrs
4.E-cigs- (SIPP)
5.E-cigs (prohibit coupons and discounted on e-cigs)
Look over the list and if you have any suggestions or contacts , let us know.-Thanks, tg
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:52 AM
To: TutreciaGiles; Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
Excellent list- Perhaps you can ask others in PAN and Tobacco if they have other orgs/names......
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Thanks!
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:06 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Speakers/e-cigs
Hello,
Here's what I have from our talk yesterday. Please correct or add. I add a few names and ask for some assist from
Sam and Hanna.-tg
E-cigs
1. American HeartAssociation(Bruce)
2. DOH
3. Seattle King County Health Dept
4. Non Tribal Casino (512 American casino)
5. ALAW (Bruce)
6. ACS (Bruce)
7. E-cigarette expert -(tg Emailed Judy Olsen , out of office til 5/3)
8. LawEnforcement (Hanna, liquor licensing board)
9. Bars and Taverns
10. Ram (waterfront)
11. Clark County
12. Multicare
13. Dr.Waltman-Lori Tanner
14. Tacoma Mall- Steven Heim
15. Applebee's /Red Robin /Denny's (tg. Visited locations in Lakewood 4/25 spoke w/ managers)
16. McDonald's(tg)
17. Youth that smoked cigs and now smokes e-cig
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18. Youth that never smoked but now smokes e-cig
19. Tacoma Pierce Transit- Scott Morris and Justin??
20. Pierce County Medical Society- Kirsten will contact director
21. Boys and Girls - Mark Stern (Kirsten has worked w/)
22. Goodwill's Reach- Kurt Miller (Kirsten has worked w/)
23. PSESD-Wendi Miller( meeting w/ her next week)
24. Past complainants ( ie.SIPP)
25. Americans forNon-SmokersRights
26. Tobacco Free Kids
27.Golf Courses-Club house
SIPP
1. Lawenforcement
2. Past complainants
3. Nan Hogan
4. Americans forNon-SmokersRights
5. Clean Air..?
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: MadiganResident
Date: 4/27/2011 12:32:38 PM
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attachments: May 2011 Tobacco Regulations_Key Messages and Q&A.docx
May 2011 Tobacco Regulations_Comm Plan.docx
Hi Paul, just an fyi. We'll most likely discuss at the meeting tomorrow.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:57 PM
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles; Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
I've also attached the communications plan with the edits we discussed on Friday. Some of the dates may flex, but I
believe this is what we settled on during the meeting.
I'm also attaching my first draft of key messages and Q&A for both regulations. These are some pretty difficult
questions, so I'd love any feedback you have on these. There are some places where I called out a need for help,
confirmationormore information in the text.
Thanks for your help!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
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To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior
changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Samantha Yeun
Kirsten Frandsen
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/27/2011 12:43:38 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigpresentation from Legacy Foundation
Thanks, Sam.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) 798-6450
From: Samantha Yeun
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:29 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; TutreciaGiles; Bruce Rytkonen
Subject:E-cig presentation from LegacyFoundation
This is a great presentation that I thought you might like to see.
http://http.earthcache.net/htc-01.media.qualitytech.com/COMP008760MOD1/Legacy/softv.index.htm
Sam
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: MadiganResident
Date: 4/27/2011 12:07:34 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes
Attachments: TobaccoPolicy Process andTimeline 4-26-11.xlsx
Hi Paul, I'm glad to hear of your interest in this work. As mentioned, I am attaching a copy of our latest timeline and
process for the Tobacco policy regs.
Key dates include:
5/16 Public Meeting 6-7 PM TPCHD Auditorium
5/18 Presentation at Board of Health Meeting from 3-5 PM to Board of Health in TPCHD Auditorium
6/1 Board of Health meeting to vote on proposed regulations
We have a meeting scheduled today at 3-3:30 (Steve Marek, our legal counsel and myself) to talk about the regs.
Would you like to be here for the meeting- it will be in Steve's office. Also, we're scheduling a meeting for tomorrow
(Thursday) and it will either be at noon or 3 PM with the team. You will receive a meeting request for that shortly.
Lastly, I will send the regs in a separate email.
Thanks Paul, Kirsten
From: MadiganResident
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 2:45 PMTo: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes
So sorry...just got back from a meeting. I have another meeting tomorrow at Madigan.
Would there be a good time on Wednesday?
Thanks,
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Paul Faestel
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:38 PM
To:Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: E-cigarettes
Hi Paul, I would be happy to talk with you. I am available until 3 PM today and tomorrow between 10 and 2.
Do any of these times work for you?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: MadiganResident
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:09 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: E-cigarettes
Kirsten,
I was wondering if you had a moment at some point to discuss ways in which I could assist the e-cigarette issues.
I am available for most of the day today or tomorrow.
Thank you!
Paul Faestel
MadiganPreventiveMedicine resident
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/27/2011 3:49:28 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigs Filesmoved
Thank you Tutrecia.
Given that the spreadsheet represents both SIPP and E-Cigs, I moved it to a new folder I created:
G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs policy\Testimony
Hope that this is okay.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia GilesSent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:38 PMTo: Kirsten Frandsen; Bruce RytkonenSubject: E-cigs Files moved
I placed all the e-cig docs into the folder created by Kirsten. I placed the names of possible speakers on the
speaker form, including Karen Blumenfeld. I put the initials of the person working on a particular contact. Bruce, I
put your initial next to some, feel free to change, update and add information. -thanks
G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs policy
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/27/2011 3:51:16 PM
Subject: RE: SmokingRegs
Kirsten…..I’ve reviewed both of the April 27 versions of the e-cig and SIPP regs and they look fine to me.
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:12 PMTo: Madigan Resident; Frank Dibiase; Bridget Vandeventer; Bruce Rytkonen; Tutrecia Giles
Subject: FW: Smoking Regs
Fyi.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:02 PMTo: Steve Marek; Kirsten FrandsenSubject: Smoking Regs
Steve and Kirsten,I have attached the local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. The documents incorporate the edits that Steve andI discussed yesterday with Dr. Chen.
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subsequent appeals thereof. I have gone back and forth on whether to include such a provision. I have had theissue researched. There is no clear case law on the extent to which a local governmental entity can require theprevailing party to be reimbursed for its attorney fees and costs. But I think a strong case can be made that wehave authority under the delegation of authority in RCW 70.160.080 (local agency may adopt regulationsrequired to implement the SIPP) as well as under the general delegation of police powers under RCW70.05.060. It is also my recollection that Dr. Chen wanted to include such a provision if I believed there waslegal authority to do so. Let’s discuss this further at our 3:00 call.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
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In addition, I have added a subsection to the enforcement section of both regulations that allows the prevailing party
to recoup its reasonable attorney's fees and costs in a proceeding before the hearing examiner or any subsequent
appeals thereof. I have gone back and forth on whether to include such a provision. I have had the issue researched.
There is no clear case law on the extent to which a local governmental entity can require the prevailing party to be
reimbursed for its attorney fees and costs. But I think a strong case can be made that we have authority under the
delegation of authority in RCW 70.160.080 (local agency may adopt regulations required to implement the SIPP) as
well as under the general delegation of police powers under RCW 70.05.060. It is also my recollection that Dr.
Chen wanted to include such a provision if I believed there was legal authority to do so. Let's discuss this further at
our 3:00 call.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: TutreciaGiles
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/27/2011 12:43:40 PM
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
Tutrecia…..I’ll be contacting the folks at the organs instead of Sam.
From: Tutrecia GilesSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:06 PMTo: Bruce Rytkonen; Kirsten FrandsenSubject: Speakers/e-cigs
Hello,
Here’s what I have from our talk yesterday. Please correct or add. I add a few names and ask for some assist from
Sam and Hanna.-tg
E-cigs
1. American Heart Association(Sam)
2. DOH
3. Seattle King County Health Dept
4. Non Tribal Casino (512 American casino)
5. ALAW (Sam)
6. ACS (Sam)
7. E-cigarette expert –(tg Emailed Judy Olsen , out of office til 5/3)
8. Law Enforcement (Hanna, liquor licensing board)
9. Bars and Taverns
10. Ram (waterfront)
11. Clark County
12. Multicare
13. Dr. Waltman-Lori Tanner
14. Tacoma Mall- Steven Heim
15. Applebee’s /Red Robin /Denny’s (tg. Visited locations in Lakewood 4/25 spoke w/ managers)
16. McDonald’s(tg)
17. Youth that smoked cigs and now smokes e-cig
18. Youth that never smoked but now smokes e-cig
19. Tacoma Pierce Transit- Scott Morris and Justin??
20. Pierce County Medical Society- Kirsten will contact director
21. Boys and Girls – Mark Stern (Kirsten has worked w/)
22. Goodwill’s Reach- Kurt Miller (Kirsten has worked w/)
23. PSESD-Wendi Miller( meeting w/ her next week)
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24. Past complainants ( ie.SIPP)
25. Americans for Non-Smokers Rights
26. Tobacco Free Kids
27. Golf Courses-Club house
SIPP
1. Law enforcement
2. Past complainants
3. Nan Hogan
4. Americans for Non-Smokers Rights
5. Clean Air..?
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: TutreciaGiles
Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/27/2011 9:52:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
Excellent list- Perhaps you can ask others in PAN and Tobacco if they have other orgs/names……
Thanks!
From: Tutrecia GilesSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:06 PMTo: Bruce Rytkonen; Kirsten FrandsenSubject: Speakers/e-cigs
Hello,
Here’s what I have from our talk yesterday. Please correct or add. I add a few names and ask for some assist from
Sam and Hanna.-tgE-cigs
1. American Heart Association(Sam)
2. DOH
3. Seattle King County Health Dept
4. Non Tribal Casino (512 American casino)
5. ALAW (Sam)
6. ACS (Sam)
7. E-cigarette expert –(tg Emailed Judy Olsen , out of office til 5/3)
8. Law Enforcement (Hanna, liquor licensing board)
9. Bars and Taverns
10. Ram (waterfront)
11. Clark County
12. Multicare
13. Dr. Waltman-Lori Tanner
14. Tacoma Mall- Steven Heim
15. Applebee’s /Red Robin /Denny’s (tg. Visited locations in Lakewood 4/25 spoke w/ managers)
16. McDonald’s(tg)
17. Youth that smoked cigs and now smokes e-cig
18. Youth that never smoked but now smokes e-cig
19. Tacoma Pierce Transit- Scott Morris and Justin??
20. Pierce County Medical Society- Kirsten will contact director
21. Boys and Girls – Mark Stern (Kirsten has worked w/)
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22. Goodwill’s Reach- Kurt Miller (Kirsten has worked w/)
23. PSESD-Wendi Miller( meeting w/ her next week)
24. Past complainants ( ie.SIPP)
25. Americans for Non-Smokers Rights
26. Tobacco Free Kids
27. Golf Courses-Club house
SIPP
1. Law enforcement
2. Past complainants
3. Nan Hogan
4. Americans for Non-Smokers Rights
5. Clean Air..?
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Bruce Rytkonen
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/27/2011 12:44:14 PM
Subject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
Ok. Great.
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
From: Bruce RytkonenSent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:44 AMTo: Tutrecia Giles; Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: Speakers/e-cigs
Tutrecia…..I’ll be contacting the folks at the organs instead of Sam.
From: Tutrecia GilesSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:06 PMTo: Bruce Rytkonen; Kirsten FrandsenSubject: Speakers/e-cigs
Hello,
Here’s what I have from our talk yesterday. Please correct or add. I add a few names and ask for some assist fromSam and Hanna.-tg
E-cigs
1. American Heart Association(Sam)
2. DOH
3. Seattle King County Health Dept
4. Non Tribal Casino (512 American casino)
5. ALAW (Sam)
6. ACS (Sam)
7. E-cigarette expert –(tg Emailed Judy Olsen , out of office til 5/3)
8. Law Enforcement (Hanna, liquor licensing board)
9. Bars and Taverns
10. Ram (waterfront)
11. Clark County
12. Multicare
13. Dr. Waltman-Lori Tanner
14. Tacoma Mall- Steven Heim
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15. Applebee’s /Red Robin /Denny’s (tg. Visited locations in Lakewood 4/25 spoke w/ managers)
16. McDonald’s(tg)
17. Youth that smoked cigs and now smokes e-cig
18. Youth that never smoked but now smokes e-cig
19. Tacoma Pierce Transit- Scott Morris and Justin??
20. Pierce County Medical Society- Kirsten will contact director
21. Boys and Girls – Mark Stern (Kirsten has worked w/)
22. Goodwill’s Reach- Kurt Miller (Kirsten has worked w/)
23. PSESD-Wendi Miller( meeting w/ her next week)
24. Past complainants ( ie.SIPP)
25. Americans for Non-Smokers Rights
26. Tobacco Free Kids
27. Golf Courses-Club house
SIPP
1. Law enforcement
2. Past complainants
3. Nan Hogan
4. Americans for Non-Smokers Rights
5. Clean Air..?
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/27/2011 3:01:54 PM
Subject: Smoking Regs
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 042711.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 042711.docx
Steve and Kirsten,I have attached the local SIPP and E-Cigarette regulations. The documents incorporate the edits that Steve andI discussed yesterday with Dr. Chen.
In addition, I have added a subsection to the enforcement section of both regulations that allows the prevailingparty to recoup its reasonable attorney’s fees and costs in a proceeding before the hearing examiner or anysubsequent appeals thereof. I have gone back and forth on whether to include such a provision. I have had theissue researched. There is no clear case law on the extent to which a local governmental entity can require theprevailing party to be reimbursed for its attorney fees and costs. But I think a strong case can be made that wehave authority under the delegation of authority in RCW 70.160.080 (local agency may adopt regulationsrequired to implement the SIPP) as well as under the general delegation of police powers under RCW70.05.060. It is also my recollection that Dr. Chen wanted to include such a provision if I believed there waslegal authority to do so. Let’s discuss this further at our 3:00 call.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
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Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bridget Vandeventer
MadiganResident
Date: 4/28/2011 2:45:28 PM
Subject: FW: Smoking Staff Report
Attachments: Staff Report SIPP- Frandsen comments.docx
Hi, as a follow up to our meeting, attached is the Staff Report for SIPP that Greg put together- with my comments.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:04 AM
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek
Subject: RE: Smoking StaffReport
Hi Greg, thanks for putting this together. It looks great.
I do have a few comments/suggestions- I have attached my comments to this email. Are you also planning on doing a
one page report for e-cigs?
Lastly- Steve, I wanted to check in with you about BOH packet materials. I'll plan on touching base with you at EHL
this morning to confirm the other items that will need to go out in the BOH packet.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:45 PM
To: Steve Marek; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: SmokingStaffReport
Steve and Kirsten,
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Here is my attempt at a staff report for the SIPP. Tried to keep it short and sweet but welcome your thoughts and
edits.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: Brad Costello
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/28/2011 3:23:24 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
You're right. I didn't even see the positive green symbol behind the e-cigarette. I guess we know where iStock
stands on the issue.
Brad
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
To:Brad Costello;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks Brad- I like the one in the middle that compares a regular cigarette to an e-cigarette. How about everyone
else?
Thanks, Kirsten
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From: Brad Costello
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:51 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: iStock Comp Photos
Attached are some iStock comp photos for the website. There is one that is exactly what Kirsten was asking for, but
I thought I would give you a few other options. We can also use one photo for the Home page and a different photo
for the Reg Page if you like more than one. Each photo is about $5.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
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From: Brad Costello
To: Madigan Resident
Bridget Vandeventer
KirstenFrandsen
Date: 4/28/2011 3:22:06 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
It's unanimous. I will get that picture.
Brad
From: Madigan Resident
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:20 PMTo:Bridget Vandeventer; Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I agree-I like the middle one, as well.
Signed,
Madigan resident
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Brad Costello
Date: 4/28/2011 3:31:04 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
*shakes fist at iStock*
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Brad CostelloSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:23 PMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
You’re right. I didn’t even see the positive green symbol behind the e-cigarette. I guess we know where iStock
stands on the issue.
Brad
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PMTo: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad CostelloCc: Madigan ResidentSubject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PMTo: Brad Costello; Bridget VandeventerCc: Madigan ResidentSubject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks Brad- I like the one in the middle that compares a regular cigarette to an e-cigarette. How about everyone
else?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Brad CostelloSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:51 AMTo: Kirsten Frandsen; Bridget VandeventerCc: Madigan ResidentSubject: iStock Comp Photos
Attached are some iStock comp photos for the website. There is one that is exactly what Kirsten was asking for,
but I thought I would give you a few other options. We can also use one photo for the Home page and a different
photo for the Reg Page if you like more than one. Each photo is about $5.
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Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: KirstenFrandsen
Brad Costello
Date: 4/28/2011 3:17:40 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
To:Brad Costello;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks Brad- I like the one in the middle that compares a regular cigarette to an e-cigarette. How about everyone
else?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Brad Costello
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:51 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: iStock Comp Photos
Attached are some iStock comp photos for the website. There is one that is exactly what Kirsten was asking for, but
I thought I would give you a few other options. We can also use one photo for the Home page and a different photo
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for the Reg Page if you like more than one. Each photo is about $5.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
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From: KirstenFrandsen
To: Brad Costello
Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/28/2011 3:12:24 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks Brad- I like the one in the middle that compares a regular cigarette to an e-cigarette. How about everyone
else?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Brad Costello
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:51 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: iStock Comp Photos
Attached are some iStock comp photos for the website. There is one that is exactly what Kirsten was asking for, but
I thought I would give you a few other options. We can also use one photo for the Home page and a different photo
for the Reg Page if you like more than one. Each photo is about $5.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Brad Costello
Date: 4/28/2011 3:58:18 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thank you!
From: Brad Costello
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:22 PM
To:Madigan Resident; Bridget Vandeventer;Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
It's unanimous. I will get that picture.
Brad
From: Madigan Resident
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:20 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer; Kirsten Frandsen; Brad CostelloSubject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I agree-I like the middle one, as well.
Signed,
Madigan resident
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
To:Brad Costello;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks Brad- I like the one in the middle that compares a regular cigarette to an e-cigarette. How about everyone
else?
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Brad Costello
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:51 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: iStock Comp Photos
Attached are some iStock comp photos for the website. There is one that is exactly what Kirsten was asking for, but
I thought I would give you a few other options. We can also use one photo for the Home page and a different photo
for the Reg Page if you like more than one. Each photo is about $5.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
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3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
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From: KirstenFrandsen
To: Madigan Resident
Bridget Vandeventer
Brad Costello
Date: 4/28/2011 3:21:50 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks all- Brad, if you are in agreement as well, let's use this one as our primary pic.
From: Madigan Resident
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:20 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer; Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I agree-I like the middle one, as well.
Signed,
Madigan resident
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: KirstenFrandsen
To: Madigan Resident
Date: 4/28/2011 3:59:24 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Ahhh, you have a funny side too! Glad to hear it.
From: Madigan Resident
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:20 PM
To:Bridget Vandeventer; Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I agree-I like the middle one, as well.
Signed,
Madigan resident
From: Bridget Vandeventer Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
To:Brad Costello;Bridget Vandeventer
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From: Madigan Resident
To: Bridget Vandeventer
KirstenFrandsen
Brad Costello
Date: 4/28/2011 3:20:14 PM
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I agree-I like the middle one, as well.
Signed,
Madigan resident
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Brad Costello
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
I like that one best too. The one with the cross through it is actually promoting e-cigarettes, I think.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:12 PM
To:Brad Costello;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: RE: iStock Comp Photos
Thanks Brad- I like the one in the middle that compares a regular cigarette to an e-cigarette. How about everyone
else?
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Thanks, Kirsten
From: Brad Costello
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:51 AM
To:Kirsten Frandsen;Bridget Vandeventer
Cc: Madigan Resident
Subject: iStock Comp Photos
Attached are some iStock comp photos for the website. There is one that is exactly what Kirsten was asking for, but
I thought I would give you a few other options. We can also use one photo for the Home page and a different photo
for the Reg Page if you like more than one. Each photo is about $5.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/28/2011 11:57:10 AM
Subject: RE: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
I'll be working on these items.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:10 AM
To: Bruce Rytkonen
Cc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
HiBruce,
Yesterday- it again came up that a BOH member wants to see a regulation/resolution. Yikes, these requests keep
coming in. Anyhow, the latest request is by Dick Muri- he would like to see Spokane's E-Cig Resolution. Would you
be able to locate and send that to me asap?
Also, if you would be willing- it would be great if you could put all of the other counties' regs/resolutions in our
shared drive that we're using for the Tobacco policy process. Perhaps you could add a new folder called something
like "Tobacco regs and resolutions from other jurisdictions". Would you be willing and able to do that today? J
Muchas Gracious! Kirsten
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bruce Rytkonen
Date: 4/28/2011 2:57:48 PM
Subject: RE: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
Thanks!
From: Bruce RytkonenSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:57 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenCc: Tutrecia GilesSubject: RE: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
I’ll be working on these items.
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:10 AMTo: Bruce Rytkonen
Cc: Tutrecia GilesSubject: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
Hi Bruce,
Yesterday- it again came up that a BOH member wants to see a regulation/resolution. Yikes, these requests keep
coming in. Anyhow, the latest request is by Dick Muri- he would like to see Spokane’s E-Cig Resolution. Would
you be able to locate and send that to me asap?
Also, if you would be willing- it would be great if you could put all of the other counties’ regs/resolutions in our
shared drive that we’re using for the Tobacco policy process. Perhaps you could add a new folder called
something like “Tobacco regs and resolutions from other jurisdictions”. Would you be willing and able to do that
today? J
Muchas Gracious! Kirsten
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Bruce Rytkonen
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/28/2011 12:00:02 PM
Subject: RE: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
Ok. I’ll keep working on the speakers list. -tg
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
From: Bruce RytkonenSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:57 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenCc: Tutrecia GilesSubject: RE: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
I’ll be working on these items.
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:10 AMTo: Bruce RytkonenCc: Tutrecia Giles
Subject: Regulations for SIPP and E-cigs from other counties
Hi Bruce,
Yesterday- it again came up that a BOH member wants to see a regulation/resolution. Yikes, these requests keep
coming in. Anyhow, the latest request is by Dick Muri- he would like to see Spokane’s E-Cig Resolution. Would
you be able to locate and send that to me asap?
Also, if you would be willing- it would be great if you could put all of the other counties’ regs/resolutions in our
shared drive that we’re using for the Tobacco policy process. Perhaps you could add a new folder called
something like “Tobacco regs and resolutions from other jurisdictions”. Would you be willing and able to do that
today? J
Muchas Gracious! Kirsten
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'
Steve Marek
Date: 4/28/2011 9:04:02 AM
Subject: RE: Smoking Staff Report
Attachments: Staff Report SIPP- Frandsen comments.docx
Hi Greg, thanks for putting this together. It looks great.
I do have a few comments/suggestions- I have attached my comments to this email. Are you also planning on doing a
one page report for e-cigs?
Lastly- Steve, I wanted to check in with you about BOH packet materials. I'll plan on touching base with you at EHL
this morning to confirm the other items that will need to go out in the BOH packet.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:45 PM
To: Steve Marek; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: SmokingStaffReport
Steve and Kirsten,
Here is my attempt at a staff report for the SIPP. Tried to keep it short and sweet but welcome your thoughts andedits.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: Steve Marek
To: Kirsten Frandsen
'Gregory Jacoby'
Date: 4/28/2011 10:57:14 AM
Subject: RE: Smoking StaffReport
I took a quick look at this and am ok with it with the additional comments from Kirsten. Only comment is to add "of"
to the 3rd paragraph #2 between some and its. Might want to have Bridgett take a look at the next version.
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:04 AM
To: 'Gregory Jacoby'; Steve Marek
Subject: RE: Smoking StaffReport
Hi Greg, thanks for putting this together. It looks great.
I do have a few comments/suggestions- I have attached my comments to this email. Are you also planning on doing a
one page report for e-cigs?
Lastly- Steve, I wanted to check in with you about BOH packet materials. I'll plan on touching base with you at EHL
this morning to confirm the other items that will need to go out in the BOH packet.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:45 PM
To: Steve Marek; Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: SmokingStaffReport
Steve and Kirsten,
Here is my attempt at a staff report for the SIPP. Tried to keep it short and sweet but welcome your thoughts and
edits.
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Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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From: Bruce Rytkonen
To: 'Zilar, Christopher'
Date: 4/28/2011 4:11:18 PM
Subject: RE: SpokaneRegHealthDistrict Regulations (?)
ThanksChris
From: Zilar, Christopher [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:49 PM
To: Bruce Rytkonen; Scholer, Julie
Cc:Kirsten Frandsen; 'MichelleWolkey'; Panerio, Krista
Subject:RE: Spokane Reg HealthDistrict Regulations (?)
I believe you are correct. My recollection is that we took the position that RCW 70.160 granted the authority, so
there was no need for a formal local board of health resolution to authorize us to enforce SIPP. RCW
70.160.070(3) states "Local health departments shall enforce . . ."
I have included our agency attorney on this email in case she remembers it differently.
ChristopherP. Zilar, Program Manager
Breast, Cervical and Colon Health
TobaccoPrevention andControl
Spokane Regional Health District
1101 W. College Ave., Suite 401
Spokane, WA 99201
(509) 324-1538
mailto:[email protected]
www.srhd.org
Public Health - Alwaysworking for a safer and healthier community
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the original message.
From: Bruce Rytkonen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:40 PM
To: Scholer, Julie; Zilar, Christopher
Cc:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Spokane RegHealthDistrict Regulations (?)
Chris and Julie.......in the past you've provided to me your July 19, 2010 Draft Enforcement Procedure for SIPP and
your Resolution 10-05 for e-cigs, and other e-cigs regs as adopted by several governing/municipal bodies in
Spokane County. Thank you very much.
I've poked around as to what other LHJ's have done with regards to adopting SIPP 70.160 as a local ordinance or
regulation and there's a handful that have formally adopted their on SIPP.
I don't believe that you have done that and your Enforcement Procedure serves as your authorization to enforce
RCW 70.160. Is that correct.....or has your Board provided some other form of authorization? Thanks again.
Julie.....thanks for letting Karen Blumenfeld from GASP know about our work here in Pierce County. She has
provided me with a ton of information.
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From: Michelle Fossum <[email protected]>
To: Zilar, Christopher
Bruce Rytkonen
Scholer, Julie
Date: 4/28/2011 6:28:06 PM
Subject: RE: SpokaneRegHealthDistrict Regulations (?)
My recollection is the same as that set forth by Chris.
Michelle
_____
From: Zilar, Christopher [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:49 PM
To: 'Bruce Rytkonen'; Scholer, Julie
Cc:Kirsten Frandsen; Michelle Fossum;Panerio, Krista
Subject:RE: Spokane Reg HealthDistrict Regulations (?)
I believe you are correct. My recollection is that we took the position that RCW 70.160 granted the authority, so
there was no need for a formal local board of health resolution to authorize us to enforce SIPP. RCW70.160.070(3) states “Local health departments shall enforce . . .”
I have included our agency attorney on this email in case she remembers it differently.
ChristopherP. Zilar, Program Manager
Breast, Cervical and Colon Health
TobaccoPrevention andControl
Spokane Regional Health District
1101 W. College Ave., Suite 401
Spokane, WA 99201
(509) 324-1538
mailto:[email protected]
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From: Bruce Rytkonen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:40 PM
To: Scholer, Julie; Zilar, Christopher
Cc:Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Spokane RegHealthDistrict Regulations (?)
Chris and Julie…….in the past you’ve provided to me your July 19, 2010 Draft Enforcement Procedure for SIPP
and your Resolution 10-05 for e-cigs, and other e-cigs regs as adopted by several governing/municipal bodies in
Spokane County. Thank you very much.
I’ve poked around as to what other LHJ’s have done with regards to adopting SIPP 70.160 as a local ordinance or
regulation and there’s a handful that have formally adopted their on SIPP.
I don’t believe that you have done that and your Enforcement Procedure serves as your authorization to enforce
RCW 70.160. Is that correct…..or has your Board provided some other form of authorization? Thanks again.
Julie…..thanks for letting Karen Blumenfeld from GASP know about our work here in Pierce County. She has
provided me with a ton of information.
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Chris and Julie…….in the past you’ve provided to me your July 19, 2010 Draft Enforcement Procedure for SIPP
and your Resolution 10-05 for e-cigs, and other e-cigs regs as adopted by several governing/municipal bodies in
Spokane County. Thank you very much.
I’ve poked around as to what other LHJ’s have done with regards to adopting SIPP 70.160 as a local ordinance or
regulation and there’s a handful that have formally adopted their on SIPP.
I don’t believe that you have done that and your Enforcement Procedure serves as your authorization to enforce
RCW 70.160. Is that correct…..or has your Board provided some other form of authorization? Thanks again.
Julie…..thanks for letting Karen Blumenfeld from GASP know about our work here in Pierce County. She has
provided me with a ton of information.
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Anthony Chen
Date: 4/29/2011 1:17:34PM
Subject: BOHmember tospeak tomedia insupport of tobacco regulations
Hi Anthony,
I washoping tograba coupleminuteswithyoutoday but after talking withTawanaabout your schedule, it looks like
thatwon't happen.
We areposting the regulationsonthe websiteonWednesday,andwill pitch a storytothe TNT that same dayor
possiblyTuesday tostart the conversationand haveanearly influence onthe story. I'vebeendoing a lot of research
onother LHJsaroundthe country thathaveproposedsimilar regulation. One important element of their media
coveragehas beenpublicsupport and participation in the mediabyat least one BOHmember. I'd like to identify
which BOHmember will speak to themedia about e-cigarettesand the proposedregulation. In talking withSteve,
hesuggested thatRickTalbert might beour bestbet.Other possibleoptions could beVictoriaWoodardsorJake
Fey.And if she'd bewilling, I think thatPat McCarthywould beespecially impactful.
Ifwedonot have aBOHmember identified, we run the riskofa story comingout that pits the HealthDepartment
against the BOH chair,which I believemay weakenour caseinthe public'seye.
Tawana isworking onschedulingyourmeeting withRickTalbert,and I believe you're talking toPat McCarthy
today. Asyouspeakwith them, ifyou feel theyare insupport of the regulation,would youask if theywould be
willing toworkwith the media on this? Specificallywe'll need themtoparticipate ina curtain raiserstory nextweek,
and thenlikelybequotedin the press release weissue if the regulationpasses.
ThanksAnthony.Let me knowifyou haveany questions onthisorother portionsofour communicationsplan
surrounding theregulations.
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
Communications andCommunity RelationsManager
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From: Tutrecia Giles
To: Adria Moskowitz
Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 6:01:48 PM
Subject: E-cig BOH doc
Attachments: ecig1.docx
Hello Adria,
Take a look at this doc. The ecig picture needs to be added. I was thinking it should be placed after first paragraph.
let me know.- thanks,tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
Hi Tutrecia, thanks. If you can re-create and send to Adria for formatting, that would work. The challenge is that we
need it all done by today :/
Brad Costello recently purchased an image of an e-cigarette (compared to a reg cigarette) off of I-Stock photo. I
think this image would work fine or we can call ALF and ask if we can use their image.
Brad- can you send Tutricia the image?
Thanks!
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
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Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Hello Kirsten
I can create a doc similar to ALF's (using ALF's photo). Bridget expressed some concern about copyrights of the
photos. That's why I sent you the documents in their original form, but it can be done-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:11:01 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
HiTutricia, thanks for sending these.
I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA stuff)
unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cig photo
Kirsten,
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Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
2.The AmericanLegacyFoundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in 1999 out of
the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 state governments and five
U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Jamie-Diane Pollock
Date: 4/29/2011 2:08:50 PM
Subject: FW: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ FINAL.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_Final.docx
Staff Report SIPP Final.docx
Staff Report E-CigsFinal.docx
Hi, I have a very special and important request…. Would you be willing to be the final editor for these documents?J I need to have them by today.
I’ll tell you more about this in the car on the way to our meeting.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:34 AMTo: Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer; Tutrecia Giles; Madigan ResidentSubject: Smoking Regulations & Staff Reports
All,I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, and Availability of Electronic Smoking Devices and Unregulated
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Nicotine Delivery Products
Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please letme know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are readfor the Board’s May 18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure.
If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think
that you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at
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From: Anthony Chen
To: Tawana Bellamy
Date: 4/29/2011 5:50:20 PM
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 042511.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 042511.docx
From: Anthony Chen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:45 AM
To: Connie Perry
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Connie,
I am sorry, but I forgot that I had a meeting this morning with Pat to discuss these regulations and did not print them
out. I will not be in the office before our meeting at 1000. Could I bother you to print two copies of these two
documents?
Thanks!
Anthony
_____
From: Steve Marek
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:28 AM
To: AnthonyChen
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
fyi
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Steve Marek; FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Tutrecia Giles;Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attached are the updated E-Cig and SIPP regulations that incorporate the comments from Friday's meeting. All prior
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changes were accepted and the insertions and deletions illustrated in the attached documents reflect Friday's
comments. Unless you have additional changes (or find typos), I would proposed to provide the BOH with clean
versions of these two documents for the May 18th meeting.
Greg
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Tawana Bellamy
To: Cindy Leingang ([email protected])
Date: 4/29/2011 5:54:46 PM
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ 042511.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_GAJ 042511.docx
Hi Cindy,
Cindy DeGrosse is out today; would you print these documents and get them to Council Member Fey for this
conference call with Dr. Chen?
Thanks,
Tawana Bellamy
ConfidentialAssistant II
Office of the Director
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
Phone: (253) 798-2899
Healthy People in Healthy Communities
From: Anthony Chen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:50 PM
To: TawanaBellamy
Subject: FW: Updated E-Cig and SIPP Regulations
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From: Anthony Chen
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/29/2011 1:22:44 PM
Subject: Re: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Anthony Chen
Date: 4/29/2011 1:23:28 PM
Subject: RE: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
That’s great, thank you. It might actually be something Pat would want to do; gives her some more media time
right as she’s launching her re-election campaign.
Bridget Vandeventer253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Anthony ChenSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:23 AMTo: Bridget VandeventerSubject: Re: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
I will ask. Waiting to see Pat and have call with Jake later today.
AC
From: Bridget VandeventerSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:17 AMTo: Anthony ChenCc: Kirsten Frandsen; Steve Marek Subject: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
Hi Anthony,
I was hoping to grab a couple minutes with you today but after talking with Tawana about your schedule, it looks
like that won’t happen.
We are posting the regulations on the website on Wednesday, and will pitch a story to the TNT that same day or
possibly Tuesday to start the conversation and have an early influence on the story. I’ve been doing a lot of
research on other LHJs around the country that have proposed similar regulation. One important element of their
media coverage has been public support and participation in the media by at least one BOH member. I’d like
to identify which BOH member will speak to the media about e-cigarettes and the proposed regulation. In talking
with Steve, he suggested that Rick Talbert might be our best bet. Other possible options could be Victoria
Woodards or Jake Fey. And if she’d be willing, I think that Pat McCarthy would be especially impactful.
If we do not have a BOH member identified, we run the risk of a story coming out that pits the Health Department
against the BOH chair, which I believe may weaken our case in the public’s eye.
Tawana is working on scheduling your meeting with Rick Talbert, and I believe you’re talking to Pat McCarthy
today. As you speak with them, if you feel they are in support of the regulation, would you ask if they would be
willing to work with the media on this? Specifically we’ll need them to participate in a curtain raiser story next
week, and then likely be quoted in the press release we issue if the regulation passes.
Thanks Anthony. Let me know if you have any questions on this or other portions of our communications plan
surrounding the regulations.
Bridget
Bridget VandeventerCommunications and Community RelationsManager
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Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 2:18:36 PM
Subject: RE: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
Good news: we got Pat McCarthy!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:23 AM
To: AnthonyChen
Subject: RE: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
That’s great, thank you. It might actually be something Pat would want to do; gives her some more media time rightas she’s launching her re-election campaign.
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Anthony Chen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:23 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Re: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
I will ask. Waiting to see Pat and have call with Jake later today.
AC
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:17 AM
To: AnthonyChen
Cc: Kirsten Frandsen; Steve Marek
Subject: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
Hi Anthony,
I was hoping to grab a couple minutes with you today but after talking with Tawana about your schedule, it looks like
that won’t happen.
We are posting the regulations on the website on Wednesday, and will pitch a story to the TNT that same day or
possibly Tuesday to start the conversation and have an early influence on the story. I’ve been doing a lot of research
on other LHJs around the country that have proposed similar regulation. One important element of their media
coverage has been public support and participation in the media by at least one BOH member. I’d like to identify
which BOH member will speak to the media about e-cigarettes and the proposed regulation. In talking with Steve,
he suggested that Rick Talbert might be our best bet. Other possible options could be Victoria Woodards or Jake
Fey. And if she’d be willing, I think that Pat McCarthy would be especially impactful.
If we do not have a BOH member identified, we run the risk of a story coming out that pits the Health Department
against the BOH chair, which I believe may weaken our case in the public’s eye.
Tawana is working on scheduling your meeting with Rick Talbert, and I believe you’re talking to Pat McCarthy
today. As you speak with them, if you feel they are in support of the regulation, would you ask if they would be
willing to work with the media on this? Specifically we’ll need them to participate in a curtain raiser story next week,
and then likely be quoted in the press release we issue if the regulation passes.
Thanks Anthony. Let me know if you have any questions on this or other portions of our communications plan
surrounding the regulations.
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
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CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/29/2011 5:41:58 PM
Subject: RE: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
Wow, you’re awesome J
Thanks so much! Woo-hoo!
Do you want to let the team know?
K
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:19 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: RE: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
Good news: we got Pat McCarthy!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:23 AM
To: AnthonyChen
Subject: RE: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
That’s great, thank you. It might actually be something Pat would want to do; gives her some more media time right
as she’s launching her re-election campaign.
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Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Anthony Chen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:23 AM
To:Bridget Vandeventer
Subject: Re: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
I will ask. Waiting to see Pat and have call with Jake later today.
AC
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:17 AM
To: AnthonyChen
Cc: Kirsten Frandsen; Steve Marek
Subject: BOH member to speak to media in support of tobacco regulations
Hi Anthony,
I was hoping to grab a couple minutes with you today but after talking with Tawana about your schedule, it looks like
that won’t happen.
We are posting the regulations on the website on Wednesday, and will pitch a story to the TNT that same day or
possibly Tuesday to start the conversation and have an early influence on the story. I’ve been doing a lot of research
on other LHJs around the country that have proposed similar regulation. One important element of their media
coverage has been public support and participation in the media by at least one BOH member. I’d like to identify
which BOH member will speak to the media about e-cigarettes and the proposed regulation. In talking with Steve,
he suggested that Rick Talbert might be our best bet. Other possible options could be Victoria Woodards or Jake
Fey. And if she’d be willing, I think that Pat McCarthy would be especially impactful.
If we do not have a BOH member identified, we run the risk of a story coming out that pits the Health Department
against the BOH chair, which I believe may weaken our case in the public’s eye.
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Tawana is working on scheduling your meeting with Rick Talbert, and I believe you’re talking to Pat McCarthy
today. As you speak with them, if you feel they are in support of the regulation, would you ask if they would be
willing to work with the media on this? Specifically we’ll need them to participate in a curtain raiser story next week,
and then likely be quoted in the press release we issue if the regulation passes.
Thanks Anthony. Let me know if you have any questions on this or other portions of our communications plan
surrounding the regulations.
Bridget
Bridget Vandeventer
CommunicationsandCommunityRelations Manager
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
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From: Brad Costello
To: Kirsten Frandsen
TutreciaGiles
Date: 4/29/2011 2:13:00 PM
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
Tutrecia,
The photo is attached.
Brad
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
Hi Tutrecia, thanks. If you can re-create and send to Adria for formatting, that would work. The challenge is that weneed it all done by today :/
Brad Costello recently purchased an image of an e-cigarette (compared to a reg cigarette) off of I-Stock photo. I
think this image would work fine or we can call ALF and ask if we can use their image.
Brad- can you send Tutricia the image?
Thanks!
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: Re: E-cig photo
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Hello Kirsten
I can create a doc similar to ALF's (using ALF's photo). Bridget expressed some concern about copyrights of the
photos. That's why I sent you the documents in their original form, but it can be done-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:11:01 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
HiTutricia, thanks for sending these.
I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA stuff)
unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cig photo
Kirsten,
Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
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2.The AmericanLegacyFoundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in 1999 out of
the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 state governments and five
U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Tutrecia Giles
Date: 4/29/2011 1:11:02 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigphoto
Hi Tutricia, thanks for sending these.
I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they
are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA
stuff) unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PMTo: Kirsten FrandsenCc: Bruce RytkonenSubject: E-cig photo
Kirsten,
Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
2.The American Legacy Foundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in
1999 out of the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 stategovernments and five U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit
organization.
Tutrecia Giles, M.Ed.Prevention SpecialistTacoma-Pierce County Health Department3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813Direct (253) 798-4727fax (253) [email protected]
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Tutrecia Giles
Date: 4/29/2011 2:11:06 PM
Subject: RE: E-cigphoto
Hi Tutrecia, thanks. If you can re-create and send to Adria for formatting, that would work. The challenge is that we
need it all done by today :/
Brad Costello recently purchased an image of an e-cigarette (compared to a reg cigarette) off of I-Stock photo. I
think this image would work fine or we can call ALF and ask if we can use their image.
Brad- can you send Tutricia the image?
Thanks!
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Hello Kirsten
I can create a doc similar to ALF's (using ALF's photo). Bridget expressed some concern about copyrights of the
photos. That's why I sent you the documents in their original form, but it can be done-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:11:01 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
HiTutricia, thanks for sending these.
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I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA stuff)
unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cig photo
Kirsten,
Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
2.The AmericanLegacyFoundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in 1999 out of
the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 state governments and five
U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 2:41:48 PM
Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Will do.-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:11:04 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
Hi Tutrecia, thanks. If you can re-create and send to Adria for formatting, that would work. The challenge is that we
need it all done by today :/
Brad Costello recently purchased an image of an e-cigarette (compared to a reg cigarette) off of I-Stock photo. I
think this image would work fine or we can call ALF and ask if we can use their image.
Brad- can you send Tutricia the image?
Thanks!
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Hello Kirsten
I can create a doc similar to ALF's (using ALF's photo). Bridget expressed some concern about copyrights of the
photos. That's why I sent you the documents in their original form, but it can be done-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:11:01 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
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Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
HiTutricia, thanks for sending these.
I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA stuff)
unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cig photo
Kirsten,
Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
2.The AmericanLegacyFoundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in 1999 out of
the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 state governments and five
U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
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Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Brad Costello
Date: 4/29/2011 2:41:14 PM
Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Thanks.
_____
From: Brad Costello
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:13:00 +0000
To: Kirsten Frandsen; TutreciaGiles
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
Tutrecia,
The photo is attached.
Brad
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:11 AM
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
Hi Tutrecia, thanks. If you can re-create and send to Adria for formatting, that would work. The challenge is that we
need it all done by today :/
Brad Costello recently purchased an image of an e-cigarette (compared to a reg cigarette) off of I-Stock photo. I
think this image would work fine or we can call ALF and ask if we can use their image.
Brad- can you send Tutricia the image?
Thanks!
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From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Hello Kirsten
I can create a doc similar to ALF's (using ALF's photo). Bridget expressed some concern about copyrights of the
photos. That's why I sent you the documents in their original form, but it can be done-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:11:01 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
HiTutricia, thanks for sending these.
I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA stuff)
unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia GilesSent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cig photo
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Kirsten,
Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
2.The AmericanLegacyFoundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in 1999 out of
the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 state governments and five
U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: TutreciaGiles
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 2:03:24 PM
Subject: Re: E-cig photo
Hello Kirsten
I can create a doc similar to ALF's (using ALF's photo). Bridget expressed some concern about copyrights of the
photos. That's why I sent you the documents in their original form, but it can be done-tg
_____
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:11:01 +0000
To: Tutrecia Giles
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: RE: E-cig photo
HiTutricia, thanks for sending these.
I like theALF overview as this is what I think Steve is looking for. However; it was developed 9/09 and outdated.
The FDA document is informative but it really speaks to the dangers- rather than give an overview of what they are.
Is it possible to re-create the ALF document and for us to update it with the newest information (esp. the FDA stuff)
unless we can find another one pager that is an overview and up to date.
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Cc:Bruce Rytkonen
Subject: E-cig photo
Kirsten,
Here are two photos. Both references are reputable sources.
1. FDA
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2.The AmericanLegacyFoundation. The national, independent public health Foundation was created in 1999 out of
the landmark Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) between the tobacco industry, 46 state governments and five
U.S. territories. It is located in Washington, D.C. and is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: TutreciaGiles
Frank Dibiase
Bruce Rytkonen
Madigan Resident
Steve Marek
'Gregory Jacoby'
Date: 4/29/2011 9:17:30 AMSubject: RE: Smoke vs.Vapor defintion
Thank you Tutrecia- I would support the use of the word "smoke" rather than vapor when referring to e-cigs.
Others?
Thanks, Kirsten
_____
From: Tutrecia Giles
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:07 PM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Frank Dibiase; Bruce Rytkonen; Madigan Resident; Steve Marek; 'Gregory Jacoby'
Subject: Smoke vs.Vapor defintion
Helloall,
Here are both definitions from the Webster’s online dictionary. It states that smoke can be “fume or vapor often
resulting from the action of heat on moisture. “ I believe it’s our option to use the word “smoke’ and not vapor. I
recommend we use the word “smoke”, it is supported by the definition. Using the word “vapor” only supports the
concept that it’s totally w/ out harm or any chemicals-Tutrecia
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/smoke
Definition of SMOKE
1
a : the gaseous products of burning materials especially of organic origin made visible by the presence of small
particles of carbon b : a suspension of particles in a gas
2
a : a mass or column of smoke b : smudge
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3
: fume or vapor often resulting from the action of heat on moisture
4
: something of little substance, permanence, or value
5
: something that obscures
6
a (1) : something (as a cigarette) to smoke (2) : marijuana 2 b : an act of smoking tobacco; especially : a smoking
break
7
a : a pale blue b : any of the colors of smoke
8
: pitches that are fastballs
Definition of VAPOR
1
: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency
2
a : a substance in the gaseous state as distinguished from the liquid or solid state b : a substance (as gasoline, alcohol,
mercury, or benzoin) vaporized for industrial, therapeutic, ormilitaryuses; also : a mixture (as the explosive mixture in
an internal combustion engine) of such a vapor with air
3
a : something unsubstantial or transitory : phantasm b : a foolish or fanciful idea
4
plural
TutreciaGiles,M.Ed.
Prevention Specialist
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3629 So 'D' Street, MS-409
Tacoma, Washington 98418-6813
Direct (253) 798-4727
fax (253) 798-6450
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From: Brad Costello
To: Bridget Vandeventer
Date: 4/29/2011 2:28:46 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking Regulations& Staff Reports
Let me know when the review is completed and I will set up the webpage.
Brad
From: Bridget Vandeventer
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:18 AM
To: Kirsten Frandsen; Gregory Jacoby; Steve Marek; Frank Dibiase; Bruce Rytkonen; Tutrecia Giles; Madigan
Resident
Cc: Brad Costello
Subject: RE: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
I've drafted the website copy and uploaded it to the Sharepoint site for review. Kirsten-can you take a hard edit on
this? Anyone else is welcome at it too. It's in the Communications folder> May 2011_website copy.
Brad: the sections are where I'll need to work with you to load the regulations and the feedback form links.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:06 AM
To: Gregory Jacoby; Steve Marek;Frank Dibiase; Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer; TutreciaGiles;Madigan
Resident
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Subject: RE: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Excellent- thankyou Greg.
All, I will upload these documents into Sharepoint. However, before I do; I will ask one staff to do a final edit-
punctuation and format only (no content changes).
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:34 AM
To: SteveMarek;FrankDibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer; TutreciaGiles;Madigan
Resident
Subject: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
All,
I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
* Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
* Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, andAvailability of Electronic Smoking Devices andUnregulatedNicotine
DeliveryProducts
* Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
* Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please let me
know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are ready for the
Board'sMay18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
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1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Bridget Vandeventer
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Gregory Jacoby
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Bruce Rytkonen
TutreciaGiles
Madigan ResidentDate: 4/29/2011 2:17:46 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking Regulations& Staff Reports
I've drafted the website copy and uploaded it to the Sharepoint site for review. Kirsten-can you take a hard edit on
this? Anyone else is welcome at it too. It's in the Communications folder> May 2011_website copy.
Brad: the sections are where I'll need to work with you to load the regulations and the feedback form links.
Thanks!
Bridget Vandeventer
253-798-2853 | cell: 253-405-6822 | [email protected] | [email protected]
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:06 AM
To: Gregory Jacoby; Steve Marek;Frank Dibiase; Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer; TutreciaGiles;Madigan
Resident
Subject: RE: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Excellent- thankyou Greg.
All, I will upload these documents into Sharepoint. However, before I do; I will ask one staff to do a final edit-
punctuation and format only (no content changes).
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Gregory Jacoby
Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
TutreciaGiles
Madigan ResidentDate: 4/29/2011 2:06:08 PM
Subject: RE: Smoking Regulations& Staff Reports
Excellent- thankyou Greg.
All, I will upload these documents into Sharepoint. However, before I do; I will ask one staff to do a final edit-
punctuation and format only (no content changes).
Thanks, Kirsten
From: Gregory Jacoby [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:34 AM
To: SteveMarek;Frank Dibiase; Kirsten Frandsen; Bruce Rytkonen; Bridget Vandeventer; TutreciaGiles;Madigan
Resident
Subject: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
All,
I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
* Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
* Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, andAvailability of Electronic Smoking Devices andUnregulatedNicotine
DeliveryProducts
* Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
* Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
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I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please let me
know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are ready for the
Board'sMay18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If
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From: Brad Costello
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 1:53:38 PM
Subject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Kirsten,
The final files have been moved. Bridget upload a Key Messages document yesterday, too, so you may want to
delete one of the documents to avoid confusion. The entire folder structure on the network has been moved. What is
left under Tobacco is empty folders. The system won't let me delete one of the folder right now, but I will check
back later.
Brad
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:47 AM
To: Brad Costello
Subject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Thanks!
I just closed the Key Messages document so it's okay to transfer.
Sounds good about keeping copies in your "H" drive- I was feeling a little funny about deleting as well- glad you
found a good option.
Thanks! Kirsten
From: Brad Costello
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: Tobacco regs link
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Kirsten,
I uploaded all of the documents to SharePoint using the same folder structure that was on the network. It looks like
you have the KeyMessages file open, so let me know when you are done with the document and I will upload the
most current version of the file. All other files have been moved to my H:\ drive so that only one set of documents will
be available to everyone. I'ma little paranoid about deleting entire folder structures until everythinghasbeen
checked, that's why I moved the documents to my H drive for now. Let me know if you see any problems.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:16 AM
To: Brad Costello
Subject: Tobacco regs link
Hi Brad- thanks for setting up the Shared files for Tobacco regs.
The link to all of the documents are here: G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs
policy
After you transfer, can you delete these files completely? I don't want to have us working off of 2 sets of documents.
Also, when the transfer is complete, can you let me know and I can send out an email to our team?
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Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Brad Costello
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 1:44:18 PM
Subject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Kirsten,
I uploaded all of the documents to SharePoint using the same folder structure that was on the network. It lookslike you have the Key Messages file open, so let me know when you are done with the document and I will
upload the most current version of the file. All other files have been moved to my H:\ drive so that only one set
of documents will be available to everyone. I’m a little paranoid about deleting entire folder structures until
everything has been checked, that’s why I moved the documents to my H drive for now. Let me know if you see
any problems.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813(253) 798-3808
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:16 AMTo: Brad CostelloSubject: Tobacco regs link
Hi Brad- thanks for setting up the Shared files for Tobacco regs.
The link to all of the documents are here: G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs policy
After you transfer, can you delete these files completely? I don’t want to have us working off of 2 sets of
documents.
Also, when the transfer is complete, can you let me know and I can send out an email to our team?
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Program Coordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco253.798.3540
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From: Brad Costello
To: Kirsten Frandsen
Date: 4/29/2011 1:44:18 PM
Subject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Kirsten,
I uploaded all of the documents to SharePoint using the same folder structure that was on the network. It looks like
you have the KeyMessages file open, so let me know when you are done with the document and I will upload the
most current version of the file. All other files have been moved to my H:\ drive so that only one set of documents will
be available to everyone. I'ma little paranoid about deleting entire folder structures until everythinghasbeen
checked, that's why I moved the documents to my H drive for now. Let me know if you see any problems.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant II
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
From: Kirsten Frandsen
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:16 AM
To: Brad Costello
Subject: Tobacco regs link
Hi Brad- thanks for setting up the Shared files for Tobacco regs.
The link to all of the documents are here: G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs
policy
After you transfer, can you delete these files completely? I don't want to have us working off of 2 sets of documents.
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Also, when the transfer is complete, can you let me know and I can send out an email to our team?
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce CountyHealthDepartment
ProgramCoordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Brad Costello
Date: 4/29/2011 1:47:22 PM
Subject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Thanks!
I just closed the Key Messages document so it’s okay to transfer.
Sounds good about keeping copies in your “H” drive- I was feeling a little funny about deleting as well- glad you
found a good option.
Thanks! Kirsten
From: Brad CostelloSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:44 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Kirsten,
I uploaded all of the documents to SharePoint using the same folder structure that was on the network. It looks
like you have the Key Messages file open, so let me know when you are done with the document and I will
upload the most current version of the file. All other files have been moved to my H:\ drive so that only one set
of documents will be available to everyone. I’m a little paranoid about deleting entire folder structures until
everything has been checked, that’s why I moved the documents to my H drive for now. Let me know if you see
any problems.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant IITacoma-Pierce County Health Department
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:16 AMTo: Brad CostelloSubject: Tobacco regs link
Hi Brad- thanks for setting up the Shared files for Tobacco regs.
The link to all of the documents are here: G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs policy
After you transfer, can you delete these files completely? I don’t want to have us working off of 2 sets of
documents.
Also, when the transfer is complete, can you let me know and I can send out an email to our team?
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Program Coordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Brad Costello
Date: 4/29/2011 1:47:20 PM
Subject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Thanks!
I just closed the Key Messages document so it’s okay to transfer.
Sounds good about keeping copies in your “H” drive- I was feeling a little funny about deleting as well- glad you
found a good option.
Thanks! Kirsten
From: Brad CostelloSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:44 AMTo: Kirsten FrandsenSubject: RE: Tobacco regs link
Kirsten,
I uploaded all of the documents to SharePoint using the same folder structure that was on the network. It looks
like you have the Key Messages file open, so let me know when you are done with the document and I will
upload the most current version of the file. All other files have been moved to my H:\ drive so that only one set
of documents will be available to everyone. I’m a little paranoid about deleting entire folder structures until
everything has been checked, that’s why I moved the documents to my H drive for now. Let me know if you see
any problems.
Brad Costello
Technical Assistant IITacoma-Pierce County Health Department
3629 South D Street, MS 1058
Tacoma, WA 98418-6813
(253) 798-3808
From: Kirsten FrandsenSent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:16 AMTo: Brad CostelloSubject: Tobacco regs link
Hi Brad- thanks for setting up the Shared files for Tobacco regs.
The link to all of the documents are here: G:\LIBSHARE\Tobacco-EH\ADMIN\Board of Health SIPP and E-cigs policy
After you transfer, can you delete these files completely? I don’t want to have us working off of 2 sets of
documents.
Also, when the transfer is complete, can you let me know and I can send out an email to our team?
Thanks!
Kirsten Frandsen
Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department
Program Coordinator: Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Tobacco
253.798.3540
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
TutreciaGiles
MadiganResidentDate: 4/29/2011 12:34:16 PM
Subject: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ FINAL.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_Final.docx
Staff Report SIPP Final.docx
Staff ReportE-CigsFinal.docx
All,I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, and Availability of Electronic Smoking Devices and UnregulatedNicotine Delivery Products
Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please let
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me know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are readfor the Board’s May 18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure.
If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think
that you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at
253.627.1181.
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
TutreciaGiles
MadiganResidentDate: 4/29/2011 12:34:16 PM
Subject: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ FINAL.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_Final.docx
Staff Report SIPP Final.docx
Staff ReportE-CigsFinal.docx
All,
I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
· Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
· Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, andAvailability of ElectronicSmokingDevices andUnregulatedNicotine
DeliveryProducts
· Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
· Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please let me
know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are ready for the
Board’sMay18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
TutreciaGiles
MadiganResidentDate: 4/29/2011 12:34:16 PM
Subject: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ FINAL.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_Final.docx
Staff Report SIPP Final.docx
Staff ReportE-CigsFinal.docx
All,I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, and Availability of Electronic Smoking Devices and UnregulatedNicotine Delivery Products
Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please let
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me know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are readfor the Board’s May 18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure.
If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think
that you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at
253.627.1181.
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From: Gregory Jacoby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Marek
Frank Dibiase
Kirsten Frandsen
Bruce Rytkonen
Bridget Vandeventer
TutreciaGiles
MadiganResidentDate: 4/29/2011 12:34:16 PM
Subject: Smoking Regulations& StaffReports
Attachments: TPCHD SIPP regs_GAJ FINAL.docx
TPCHD E-Cig regs_Final.docx
Staff Report SIPP Final.docx
Staff ReportE-CigsFinal.docx
All,
I have attached what I believe to be the final versions of the following documents:
· Chapter 8, Smoking in Public Places
· Chapter 9, Restrictions on Sale, Use, andAvailability of ElectronicSmokingDevices andUnregulatedNicotine
DeliveryProducts
· Staff Report for Chapter 8 (Local SIPP)
· Staff Report for Chapter 9 (E-cigarettes)
I think you have all seen these versions before with the exception of the staff report for e-cigarettes. Please let me
know if you have any final comments or edits prior to noon today. Otherwise, Kirsten, I think these are ready for the
Board’sMay18th meeting materials.
Gregory A. Jacoby
McGavick Graves, P.S.
1102 Broadway, Suite 500
Tacoma, WA 98402
253.627.1181
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you arenot the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictlyprohibited. If you think that
you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify the sender via e-mail or telephone at 253.627.1181.
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From: Kirsten Frandsen
To: Brad Costello
D t 4/29/2011 12 15 46 PM
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