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    STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS AND DESIGN - FORUM

    Structural Analysis and DesignThis is where you can find and contribute to discussions, ideas, and other

    information about Bentley Structural Analysis and Design products.

    Staad question: differene !et"een surfae e#e$ent% ate

    e#e$ent% and s'e## e#e$ent(

    Posted by C'an)*i on Mon, Jan 23 2012 4:54 PM

    Anybody can exlain t!e di""erence sur"ace ele#ent, late ele#ent, and s!ell ele#ent in Staad$ %!an&s so

    #uc!' (ruce

    Posted by sures'&rs'ar$a onMon, Jan 23 2012 ):00 PM

    *irstly + ould li&e to &no "ro# you as to !ere did you "ind s!ell ele#ent in Staad$

    -o anser to your .uery:

    late can be eit!er t!ree noded or "our noded, sur"ace can be u to eig!t noded'

    Plate ill !a/e to be #es!ed t!roug! a di""erent co##and, sur"ace !as t!e ro/ision "or auto #es!ing'

    All t!e t!ree or "our corners o" late can be o" di""erent t!ic&ness, t!e sur"ace !as to be o" uni"or#

    t!ic&ness'

    %!e out ut o" late analysis gi/es result "or out o" lane #o#ent and s!ear and designs accordingly, %!eoutut o" sur"ace analysis gi/es result "or in lane #o#ent and s!ear as re.uired "or s!ear all'

    Posted by +ris Sat'ia oned, Jan 25 2012 :45 AM

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    (ruce !en,

    ,#ate e#e$ent ersus s'e## e#e$ent

    (ot! ter#s reresent t!e sa#e t!ing in t!e S%AAD context, !ic! is, a 3noded triangular or a 4noded

    .uadrilateral ele#ent to !ic! a t!ic&ness !as to be assigned as a roerty' %!is is co##only re"erred to

    as a 2D "inite ele#ent' +n S%AAD, t!is ele#ent !as bot! attributes #e#brane inlane e""ect and

    bending outo"lane e""ect' %!e bending e""ect can be s!ut o"" by declaring it as 676M6-% P7A-6S%86SS' %!e inlane e""ect can9t be s!ut o""'

    %!ere is anot!er tye o" ele#ent in S%AAD called a solid ele#ent !ic! is a 3d "inite ele#ent' +t is s!aed

    li&e a ris# or edge or a bloc& or #any ot!er s!aes t!at can be "or#ed by 4 t!ru nodes !ere no

    #ore t!an 4 nodes lie in one lane'

    ,#ate E#e$ent erus a surfae

    +" you ant #odel a structure !ic! contains a all, slab or anel tye co#onent, you !a/e to c!oices

    in S%AAD :

    a Model t!at anel using a collection o" indi/idual ele#ents' %!is is called a "inite ele#ent #es!' %!is is

    an asse#bly o" t!e 2d triangular andor .uadrilateral ele#ents described abo/e'

    b Model t!at as a single !ysical ob;ect called a Sur"ace'

    e o"

    ele#ents, etc' t!at is generated "ro# t!e sur"ace is based on t!e ara#eters t!at you ro/ide at t!e ti#e

    o" de"ining t!e sur"ace' %!e details o" t!e #es! t!us generated are to a large extent, #as&ed "ro# t!e

    user' 8esults are resented "or t!at sur"ace, not "or t!e indi/idual ele#ents t!at it is #ade u o"'

    %o gi/e you an analogy, t!in& o" t!e sur"ace as a c!ess board, and t!e late ele#ent as t!e indi/idual

    s.uares in t!at board' ?ou can de"ine t!e c!ess board as )4 ele#ents otion a or 1 sur"ace otion b'

    Posted by C'an)*i oned, *eb 15 2012 5:32 PM

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    %!an&s so #uc!' + li&e t!e ansers'

    Posted by )santos') on%ue, Mar 13 2012 ):3@ AM

    Dear (ruce,

    i" e ta&e sur"ace ele#ent as c!ess board and late ele#ents as asse#blage o" )4 s.uare ele#ents t!en

    !at !aens to inlane #o#ent M> t!at aears in outut o" sur"ace ele#ent analysis !ile only out

    o" lane #o#ents Mx My are a/ilable in outut o" late ele#ent anlaysis' Bo to ;udge inlane

    #o#ent o" t!e late ele#ent'

    t!an&s and regards

    Santos!g

    Posted by S+Lose on%ue, Mar 13 2012 @:1@ AM

    +n t!e ostrocessing #ode, in t!e Plate8esults Along 7ine age, cut a section t!roug! t!e all'

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    regards

    Santos!

    Posted by ALO++S on%!u, Se 2@ 2012 5:4C PM

    Dear Sirs:

    an anyone tell #e !o to interret t!e results o" Sur"ace design in S%AAD' + #odeled a sur"ace !a/ing

    oening and t!e rein"orce#ent su##ary #entions: Bori>ontal, /ertical and 6dge 8ebar' !at is t!e

    #eaning o" t!is edge bars' "or #y result, t!e /alue is /ery !ig! @010 D+A' !at could be t!e reason "or

    it$ Along, sides o" oening, it says !ori>ontal boundary ele#ent 1 1) dia''!at does it #ean$$

    Also under late stress, + get ME /alue along local = and local ?' Bo to interret t!e sa#e and !y t!ere

    are to ME /alues' P7' 6=P7A+-'''%!an&s in ad/ance "or suort'

    Alo&

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