So You’re Not Vaccinating. Now What? Session One

John “Doc” Edwards, DC, CACCP

Mama’s Chiropractic ClinicPathways Connect SWFL

doc@mamaschiropractic.com(239) 549-MAMA

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Today…

• Measles• Mumps• Whooping Cough• Chicken Pox

• What it looks like• Signs & Symptom

Timeline• How long to stay home• Death/Injury Risk of

Illness• Treatment

Measles

Mottled rash Black dot Koplic Spot

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Measles S/S

Introduction(Droplet)

Hacking CoughRunny NoseHigh FeverRED EYES

7-10 days

10-12 days

14-19 days

Fever Ends (lasts 4-7 days)

Full Body RashKoplic Spots

4 days after rash starts

“Contagious,” stay at home

Natural Course

24-26 days

Kidshealth.org

4 days before rash starts

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Measles Risk• 1 in 1,000,000 (expect 314

case/yr) (CDC).• .000237% death rate 1963

to .000000% now (vaxtruth)• Africa + Asia = 95% of deaths

(WHO)• Pneumonia, croup, and

encephalitis are common causes of death; encephalitis is the most common cause of long-term problems (Orenstein et al)

• Vit A cuts deaths by 50% (WHO)Image: The Economist (2013)

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Measles Treatment

• Pen & Paper Calendar• 200,000 IU Vitamin A, Daily for 2 days & 100,000 IU

Infants (Cochrane Review 2005)• Vit C prevents viral pneumonia (Cochrane 2013)• Vit C blood level low in children w/ measles (Cemak

2007) • Vit C reverses cell death in measles infection (Bhaskar

2011) • Paez de la Torre, Klenner: Vit C prevention & treatment

of measles epidemics 1945, 1949 (Stone)

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Vitamin C Dosage

“Dr. Frederick R. Klenner of Reidsville, North Carolina, who has had more actual clinical experience in megascorbic prophylaxis and megascorbic therapy in the past thirty years than anyone else in the world, routinely prescribes ten grams of ascorbic acid daily to his adult patients for the maintenance of good health. His daily dosage schedule for children is one gram of ascorbic acid per year of age up to ten years and ten grams daily thereafter (e.g. a four-year-old child would receive four grams daily). Dr. Pauling concluded that the optimum daily intake of ascorbic acid, for most human adults, is in the range of 2.3 grams to 9 grams,” (Stone).

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Mumps

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Mumps S/S

Introduction(Droplet)

Fever, Headache,Swelling of Parotid Glands (hard to swallow, talk, chew)

3 days

16-18 days

4 days after symptoms start

“Contagious,” stay at home

Natural Course

Harvard Medical School

5 days return to school

Orchitis, Fever, Chills, Ab Pain Start. Parotid Swelling Gone

26-28 days 29-35 days

1 in 3 children have no symptoms.

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Mumps Risk

• 1 in 314,000 or 1000/ year (CDC)

• 5 Yr Cumulative Death Risk: 1 in 9,056,604 (smartvax)

• 5 yr deafness/encephalitis risk: 1 in 12,938,006. (smartvax)

• Sterility: 2-4%, only in post-puberty males w/ bilateral orchiditis (Masarani)

Image: The Economist (2013)

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Mumps Treatment• Pen & Paper Calendar• Super super rare, and no-duh things to look for: high fever, stiff neck,

headache, nausea and vomiting, drowsiness, convulsions, and other signs of brain involvement (Masarani).

• Soft foods, no acidic juices• Compresses for face & testes, if necessary (kidshealth).• Among 33 cases of children, Klenner: “A 23-year-old male developed

mumps plus bilateral orchitis; his fever was 105°, and he was in overwhelming pain with “testicles the size of tennis balls.” After one 1000-mg injection of Vitamin C intravenously the pain began to subside and after six more shots spaced every two hours the pain was gone. The fever was normal in 36 hours. He was up, about and well in 60 hours. Total dose 25,000 mg.

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Pertussis (Whooping Cough)

• At night, every hour on the hour

• Touch center of tongue (food)

• After running

(Humphries)

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Pertussis (Whooping Cough) S/S

Introduction(Droplet)

“Cold” runny nose, low-grade fever, mild, occasional cough, infant “apnea”

24 days

Symptoms gone

“Contagious,” stay at home

Natural Course

Centers for Disease Control

Coughing Lessens, Recovery

Mild serial coughing followed by “whoop” on inhale. 1 Month Mucous, vomiting

66 days

80-94 days

Red gums, red eyes

7-10 days

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Pertussis (Whooping Cough) Risk

• 2008-13 ave 31,000/yr range = 16,800-48,200

• Death rate low vac populations 1 in 99,375.

• High vac populations 1 in 9,930,000. All 9 deaths in 2013 <2 mo, not vac eligible.

• Risk to infants <6 mo increased due to vac’d generations (smartvax)

Image: The Economist (2013)

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Pertussis Treatment• Stone: “Meier (22), in 1945, found a reduction in coughing and that the coughing spells were more

easily tolerated, especially in infants. There was general improvement, the children looked better and were more quiet, their appetite increased and vomiting disappeared. He gave 500 milligrams by injection supplemented by six 300-milligram tablets orally, the dosage totaling 2,300 milligrams daily for the first few days.”

• Humphries: “The starting dose in children for sodium ascorbate is 200-375 mg per kg over 24 hours. If they are coughing until they are purple, then your doses of vitamin C are much too small. Bump them right up to the level of 375 milligrams per kilo of body weight over the waking hours, as a starting dose

• Don’t rely on Vitamin C to get into milk; it can take 8 hours. Breastfeeding moms can express some breast milk into a cup, and put a pinch (250 mg) of vitamin C powder into it, and mix it. Then, using a plastic eyedropper, dribble this into the baby’s mouth gradually over a few minutes. Don’t squirt it in – just drip it in, bit by bit. Or you can insert the dropper in as she breastfeeds, which would make it easier.

• Watch the child carefully throughout the day, and write down everything, including how you are feeling. Temperature, what time the child coughs, sound, mucous production, what triggered it. Caretakers/parents can take a large dose (one tablespoon) of cod liver oil, and about 10 grams of vitamin C spread out over waking hours.

• You may want to give more towards the end of the day, or whenever the coughing tends to be worse. • If your dose is right, within 8 hours there should be a two-third reduction in the coughing. “

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Pertussis Treatment

• 10 g per day for caregivers min 2 wks

• 250-375 mg/kg daily• 30 lb child = 3.4- 5.1 g• 306-460 g over 90 days• You’re going to need

the BIG jar.• Out: sugar, dairy, gluten

(Humphries)

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Varicella (Chicken Pox)

Fluid-filled, small spots Will scab, but individual points

Compare to Measles

Mottled rash Black dot Koplic Spot

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Varicella (Chicken Pox) S/S

Introduction(Droplet)

Mid-grade fever“Malaise” Headache Sore Throat14-16 days

Vesicular Rash Abdomen, Back, Face Spreads Out

“Contagious,” stay at home

Vesicles Crust Over,Natural Course

18-21 days15-18 days

Centers for Disease Control

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Varicella (Chicken Pox) Risk• 5 yr Low Vac Death Risk 1 in

218,000 • 5 yr High Vac Death Risk 1 in

1,931,000 (smartvax)• Dehydration, pneumonia, bleeding

problems, infection or inflammation of the brain (encephalitis, cerebellar ataxia), bacterial infections of the skin and soft tissues in children including Group A streptococcal infections, blood stream infections (sepsis) (less that 1% of children), toxic shock syndrome bone & joint infections (CDC)

Image: The Economist (2013)

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Varicella (Chicken Pox) Treatment

• Pen & Paper Calendar• Klenner (10), in 1949, injected eight "shingle" patients

with ascorbic acid and seven claimed cessation of pain within two hours after the first injection. Seven also showed drying of the blisters within one day and in three days were clear of the lesions.

• Zureick (24), in 1950, treated 237 cases of "shingles" and claimed cures in all in 3 days of injections of ascorbic acid. (Stone)

• Schencking et al (2012) confirmed this with 7.5 g/50 mL IV for 67 patients with shingles.

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Commonalities

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Thursday July 17th 6:30 pm

• The “D” & “T” in DPT• The “R” in MMR• Influenza• Traveling with unvaxxed kids? What are the

actual risks and is it something to seriously consider?

• If we decide not to vax, and our child gets the disease and dies what could happen to us? (Horrible, I know...)

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