snoqualmie community center. historic community center
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Snoqualmie Snoqualmie Community Community
CenterCenter
Historic Community Historic Community CenterCenter
HistoryHistory
•In 1918, the Snoqualmie Falls Lumber Company provided a community hall. •The original community hall was a one story bunkhouse type building.•The building provided rooms for meetings, social interaction and educational opportunities.•1923 plans for a new community hall•1930 community hall burned and was replaced with a new building•1971 community hall was officially closed
Original design without Original design without poolpool
Original design with poolOriginal design with pool
Known FactsKnown Facts
Bond failed twice, once in 2002 and in 2006Bond failed twice, once in 2002 and in 2006
3-million dollars in mitigation funds from developer for Community Center3-million dollars in mitigation funds from developer for Community Center $800,000 of REET money set aside for the development of the $800,000 of REET money set aside for the development of the
Community CenterCommunity Center In 2006, survey was distributed to the community on what they wanted in In 2006, survey was distributed to the community on what they wanted in
a community centera community center Swimming pool is a major factor to some of the residentsSwimming pool is a major factor to some of the residents Property set aside for the community center at Snoqualmie Community Property set aside for the community center at Snoqualmie Community
ParkPark School District wanting to go for a $189-million dollar bondSchool District wanting to go for a $189-million dollar bond City wants to construct a new City Hall using most available City funding City wants to construct a new City Hall using most available City funding
sourcessources Community wants a community center builtCommunity wants a community center built Community Center partnership survey completed by Ballard and King in Community Center partnership survey completed by Ballard and King in
20072007
What is the vision of the What is the vision of the Community Center?Community Center?
20022002 This community Center will be a symbol of
Snoqualmie’s tenacity and success during the past 100 years, and of our commitment to provide strong healthy recreational and social opportunities for our children. It will serve as a place to bind old and new together, and it will be our common living room, hearth and swimming hole.
What are the expectations of What are the expectations of the council?the council?
What are the expectations What are the expectations of the community?of the community?
Developers promisedDevelopers promised Property was donated for this purposeProperty was donated for this purpose
Stakeholder groups and Stakeholder groups and communitiescommunities
Joining upper/lower communities together School district Local non-profits ROA Surrounding cities and communities Possible partners
Potential PartnersPotential Partners EncompassEncompass Snoqualmie Valley Youth HubSnoqualmie Valley Youth Hub Si View Metro Park DistrictSi View Metro Park District Northwest Center Northwest Center Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Mount Si Senior Center Mount Si Senior Center Greater Seattle YMCAGreater Seattle YMCA Unity TheaterUnity Theater Snoqualmie Valley School DistrictSnoqualmie Valley School District Boys & Girls Clubs of King countyBoys & Girls Clubs of King county
What Partners would need What Partners would need to participateto participate
EncompassEncompass The Center must be a gathering place for the communityThe Center must be a gathering place for the community Gym with an indoor trackGym with an indoor track Indoor PoolIndoor Pool Needs to be year round programmingNeeds to be year round programming
Snoqualmie Valley youth hubSnoqualmie Valley youth hub Gymnasium space that is flexible for multiple usesGymnasium space that is flexible for multiple uses Meeting RoomsMeeting Rooms Indoor Pool – not as strong of a need as other spacesIndoor Pool – not as strong of a need as other spaces Place for the community to congregatePlace for the community to congregate Something for all agesSomething for all ages
Si View Metro Park DistrictSi View Metro Park District The center should be built in phases based on what the community can afford and what can The center should be built in phases based on what the community can afford and what can
be passed at an electionbe passed at an election GymnasiumGymnasium Meeting roomsMeeting rooms Aerobics roomAerobics room Multipurpose roomsMultipurpose rooms
What Partners would need What Partners would need to participate continuedto participate continued
Northwest CenterNorthwest Center PoolPool
Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners AssociationSnoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Event SpaceEvent Space Office SpaceOffice Space
Mt Si SeniorMt Si Senior Community rooms and classroomsCommunity rooms and classrooms Fitness areaFitness area
Greater Seattle YMCAGreater Seattle YMCA Youth/Teen areaYouth/Teen area Health and FitnessHealth and Fitness GymnasiumGymnasium Aquatics (emphasis on swim lessons and recreation swimming)Aquatics (emphasis on swim lessons and recreation swimming) Weight/cardio exercise area Teen CenterWeight/cardio exercise area Teen Center Group exercise roomGroup exercise room Group cycling roomGroup cycling room Yoga studioYoga studio Child care areaChild care area Community meeting roomsCommunity meeting rooms
What Partners would need What Partners would need to participate continuedto participate continued
Unity TheaterUnity Theater A theater space with a raised stage that is able to seat at least 115 people.A theater space with a raised stage that is able to seat at least 115 people. Lobby area with space for concession operationsLobby area with space for concession operations Large storage area for propsLarge storage area for props Space that can be used for recitals and other eventsSpace that can be used for recitals and other events Area for arts displayArea for arts display Visual arts activities classroomsVisual arts activities classrooms
Snoqualmie Valley School DistrictSnoqualmie Valley School District FitnessFitness PoolPool Multipurpose roomsMultipurpose rooms GymnasiumGymnasium
Boys and girls clubs of King CountyBoys and girls clubs of King County Classrooms for educationClassrooms for education computer labcomputer lab gymnasiumgymnasium arts spacearts space Game roomGame room Recording studioRecording studio Multi purpose spaceMulti purpose space
Trade offsTrade offsEncompassEncompass Encompass would operate and collect most of the youth program revenueEncompass would operate and collect most of the youth program revenue Identity might be lost with Encompass in the same buildingIdentity might be lost with Encompass in the same building Possible % of revenues from encompass youth programsPossible % of revenues from encompass youth programs Less expense on staff costsLess expense on staff costs Less control of youth programmingLess control of youth programmingSnoqualmie Youth HubSnoqualmie Youth Hub Youth Hub would operate and collect all revenues for youth programsYouth Hub would operate and collect all revenues for youth programs Less expense on staff costsLess expense on staff costs Expense on utilities?Expense on utilities? Lost control of youth programmingLost control of youth programmingSi View Metro Park DistrictSi View Metro Park District Loss of all programming of center Loss of all programming of center Less staff costsLess staff costs Possibility of joining parks districtPossibility of joining parks district Loss of identityLoss of identity Loss of revenueLoss of revenue
Trade offs continuedTrade offs continuedNorthwest CenterNorthwest Center Loss of all pool programming of the centerLoss of all pool programming of the center Less staff costLess staff cost Pay some subsidy to off set Northwest costsPay some subsidy to off set Northwest costs Loss or revenueLoss or revenue Loss of some identityLoss of some identity Pay utility costPay utility costMt. Si Senior CenterMt. Si Senior Center Loss of senior programmingLoss of senior programming Less staff costLess staff cost Loss of revenueLoss of revenue Free use of facilityFree use of facilityYMCAYMCA Loss of all programmingLoss of all programming No staff costNo staff cost Loss of identityLoss of identity Loss of all revenueLoss of all revenue Possible utility costsPossible utility costs
Trade offs continuedTrade offs continuedBoys and Girls ClubBoys and Girls Club Loss of all programming Loss of all programming No staff costNo staff cost Loss of identityLoss of identity Loss of all revenueLoss of all revenue Possible utility costsPossible utility costsUnity TheaterUnity Theater Possible utility costsPossible utility costs Addition to cultural/performing artsAddition to cultural/performing arts Possible revenues from arts eventsPossible revenues from arts eventsSnoqualmie Valley School DistrictSnoqualmie Valley School District Revenue for use of facilityRevenue for use of facility Would like minimal cost for use of facilityWould like minimal cost for use of facility Possible higher education uses of facilityPossible higher education uses of facility
Likelihood of creating partnership?Likelihood of creating partnership?
Community CenterPool
Features Features *Gym (2 gyms, 1 gym, elevated track)*Gym (2 gyms, 1 gym, elevated track) *Fitness room*Fitness room Aerobics roomAerobics room Meeting roomMeeting room *Banquet room*Banquet room Day care roomDay care room Locker roomLocker room Teen roomTeen room Senior adult roomSenior adult room *Kitchen*Kitchen PoolPool Racquetball courtsRacquetball courts
Must Have?Must Have? Like to Have?Like to Have?
GymGym Day care roomDay care room
Fitness RoomFitness Room Locker roomLocker room
Banquet RoomBanquet Room Teen roomTeen room
KitchenKitchen Aerobics roomAerobics room
Meeting roomMeeting room
PoolPool
Racquetball courtsRacquetball courts
Senior adult roomSenior adult room
Highest value to the Highest value to the communitycommunity
GymGym Fitness roomFitness room Banquet roomBanquet room PoolPool
PoolPoolCompetitive Pool Leisure Pool
Wave Pool Lazy River
Pool continuedPool continuedSlides
•Both competitive/leisure pool one tank? Two tanks?
•Leisure wave pool
•Competitive pool does not collect as much revenue as a leisure pool
LocationLocation
Community Park siteCommunity Park site Other optionsOther options
New community park site?New community park site? Any other sites in the development?Any other sites in the development?
PoolPool
Would pool be phased and built with the Would pool be phased and built with the community centercommunity center
Community pool as a separate projectCommunity pool as a separate project Would pool be included with Community Would pool be included with Community
Center and built as one complex at the Center and built as one complex at the same timesame time
PoolPool
Acceptable subsidy to pay for pool.Acceptable subsidy to pay for pool. 70%, 60%, 50%, 40%, 30% ?70%, 60%, 50%, 40%, 30% ? Community would like a pool but would they Community would like a pool but would they
pay for it?pay for it?
Snoqualmie Community Snoqualmie Community Center Estimated CostsCenter Estimated Costs
BASE COMMUNITY CENTER 10,595 sq ft. Multi-use Gymnasium 7,000 sq ft. Gym Storage 300 sq ft. Administration 250 sq ft. Restrooms / Lockers 600 sq ft. Net to Gross (30%) 2,445 Building Costs $2,648,750 Site Costs $375,000 Estimated Construction Costs $3,023,750 Soft Costs (35%) $1,058,313 Estimated Project Costs $4,082,063
GREAT ROOM 3100 / sf subtotal Great Room 2,500 Catering Kitchen 400 Storage 200 Estimated Construction Costs $775,000 Soft Costs (35%) $271,250 Estimated Project Costs $1,046,250
Snoqualmie Community Snoqualmie Community Center Estimated CostsCenter Estimated Costs
DANCE / AEROBICS 100 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $250,000 Soft Costs (35%) $87,500 Estimated Project Costs $337,500
CARDIO / FITNESS 1500 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $375,000 Soft Costs (45%) $168,750 Estimated Project Costs $543,750
DROP-IN CHILD CARE 400/ sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $100,000 Soft Costs (35%) $35,000 Estimated Project Costs $135,000
Snoqualmie Community Snoqualmie Community Center Estimated CostsCenter Estimated Costs
CLASSROOM/MEETING 800 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $200,000 Soft Costs (35%) $70,000 Estimated Project Costs $270,000
ARTS / CRAFTS 1200 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $300,000 Soft Costs (35%) $105,000 Estimated Project Costs $405,000
LEISURE POOL W/ 3 LAP LANES 12,000 / sf subtotal Natatorium, Pool Mech, Lockers $3,600,000 Estimated Construction Costs $3,600,000 Soft Costs (35%) $1,260,000 Estimated Project Costs $4,860,000
PARTY ROOM 400 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $100,000 Soft Costs (35%) $35,000 Estimated Project Costs $135,000
Bring Community Center to Bring Community Center to a Vote?a Vote?
What will effect the voteWhat will effect the vote
School District BondSchool District Bond Si View Parks DistrictSi View Parks District Hospital Bond MeasureHospital Bond Measure
What would be the timeline What would be the timeline for a vote?for a vote?
SpringSpring FallFall 2008, 2009, 20102008, 2009, 2010
Communication StrategyCommunication StrategyCommunity Center Communication Time line if vote is November 2008Community Center Communication Time line if vote is November 2008
AprilApril Decision of Community Center optionsDecision of Community Center options Line up architect of conceptual designLine up architect of conceptual design Assemble materials for conceptualAssemble materials for conceptual Workshop of options with the communityWorkshop of options with the community Partnership agreements establishPartnership agreements establish Involve partners if any on design conceptsInvolve partners if any on design conceptsMayMay Refine selected optionsRefine selected options Design refinementDesign refinement Workshop two with communityWorkshop two with communityJuneJune Public relations materialsPublic relations materials Produce materialsProduce materials Educate public on conceptual and costsEducate public on conceptual and costs
Communication StrategyCommunication StrategyJulyJuly Get campaign organizedGet campaign organized File for community center bondFile for community center bondAugustAugust Prepare information for the publicPrepare information for the public Campaign fliers and information to be mailedCampaign fliers and information to be mailed Campaign for community center at Snoqualmie DaysCampaign for community center at Snoqualmie DaysSeptemberSeptember Campaign for community centerCampaign for community center Open forum about the community center/option/costsOpen forum about the community center/option/costsOctoberOctober Campaign for community center citywide sweepCampaign for community center citywide sweepNovemberNovember Vote for bondVote for bond
Roles in Roles in Communication/BondCommunication/Bond
StakeholdersStakeholders City CouncilCity Council StaffStaff Pro Bond CommitteePro Bond Committee