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Page 1: SIPP Seminars 2012 #SIPPS2012 This is not a consumer advertisement, it is intended for professional financial advisers and should not be relied upon by

SIPP Seminars 2012 #SIPPS2012

This is not a consumer advertisement, it is intended for professional financial

advisers and should not be relied upon by private customers or any other

persons

Page 2: SIPP Seminars 2012 #SIPPS2012 This is not a consumer advertisement, it is intended for professional financial advisers and should not be relied upon by

• Suffolk Life is the trading name of Suffolk Life Pensions Limited (registered in England and Wales number 1180742) and Suffolk Life Annuities Limited (registered in England and Wales number 1011674).

• Both are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority.• The registered address of both companies is 153 Princes Street, Ipswich,

Suffolk IP1 1QJ.• Telephone calls to Suffolk Life are recorded for training, monitoring and

fact verification purposes.• Suffolk Life provides, operates and administers self-invested personal

pensions and similar pension products.• Information regarding tax and practice is based on Suffolk Life's

understanding at the time this presentation was put together of legislation and HM Revenue and Customs policy. Legislation and HM Revenue and Customs policy and practice may change in the future. 

• This presentation is for adviser use only and is not to be used with clients.

• Tel: 0870 414 7000 Fax: 0870 414 8000• Web: www.suffolklife.co.uk• E-mail: [email protected]

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End of Tax YearPensions Checklist

Claire BrooksPensions Technical Manager

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Agenda

• Carry Forward

• Fixed Protection

• Protected rights

• Flexible drawdown

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Carry Forward

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April 19, 2023

Carry forward basics

£10k

£35k

£25k

£50k

2008-09 2010-11 2011-122009-10

£40k

£25k

£15k

Maximum tax relievable contributions for

2011-12

£130,000

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April 19, 2023

The rules

• Must have been a member of a scheme in the year in which carry forward is being carried from

• Must have earnings to support personal contributions in the year in which they are paid– Not the year they are carried forward from– Not an issue for employer contributions

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April 19, 2023

PIPs and carry forward

• Pension input periods need not be aligned to tax year

• Not as simple as looking at what was paid in each tax year

• Can manipulate PIPs to get extra contributions in for higher earners

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April 19, 2023

Example of PIP issues

Date Contributions

5/4/2008 25,000

5/4/2009 10,000

6/4/2010 15,000

1/11/2010 25,000

5/4/2011 5,000

Tax Year

2007-2008

=£25,000

2010-2011£45,000

Calendar year

2009-2010=10,000

2008-2009

=25,000

2011-12 annual allowance remaining

£145,000 £120,000

2011-2012£5,000

2010-2011=40,000

2008-2009=£10,000

2009-2010=£Nil

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April 19, 2023

Changes to carry forward

Pension input period Contribution Previously New guidance

2008-2009 25,000 +£25,000 +£25,000

2009-2010 55,000 -£5,000 Nil

2010-2011 48,000 +£2,000 +£2,000

Amount to carry forward £22,000 £27,000

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April 19, 2023

Reduction in Lifetime allowance• Use carry forward before applying for Fixed Protection if possible

• Tax year counts for Fixed Protection

• PIP counts for contribution

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April 19, 202310 January 2012

Fixed Protection

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April 19, 2023

Reminder about A-day protections• Enhanced, Primary and Scheme Specific TFC

• Lifetime allowance will remain at £1.8m when used to calculate multiples – Primary protection

• Also remains at £1.8m for Pension Commencement Lump sum calculations

• Will increase only when LTA increases above the £1.8m

• Examples in RPSM have recently been updated – be careful they were incorrect

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April 19, 2023

What is Fixed Protection?• Protection from the reduction in the Lifetime allowance

• Can not apply if you have primary protection, no option to give it up

• If you have enhanced you must give it up before applying for fixed

• Protection application deadline 5 April 2012

• Not just for those with uncrystallised funds

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April 19, 2023

Crystallised fund example• Bob aged 71, consolidated all pensions into SIPP

• Crystallises 1.35 Million into Capped Drawdown

• Uses 75% of the Lifetime allowance, leaves 25% unused

• Takes PCLS of £337,500 and no income

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April 19, 2023

What happens at age 75 - no protection• Bobs fund had increased from 1.0125 Million (net of PCLS) to 1.45 Million

in June 2015 when he reaches 75

• BCE 5a – (1.45-1.0125) = £437,500

• Remaining lifetime allowance = 25% of 1.5M = £375,000

• So excess charge on £62,500

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April 19, 2023

What happens at age 75 - fixed protection• Bobs fund had increased from 1.0125 Million (net of PCLS) to 1.45 Million

in June 2015 when he reaches 75

• BCE 5a – (1.45-1.0125) = £437,500

• Remaining lifetime allowance = 25% of 1.8m=£450,000

• No excess charge

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April 19, 2023

Loss of fixed protection after vesting• Fund value of 1.45m in 2011-12

• Applies for fixed protection

• Fund value increases to 1.7m by June 2013

• Crystallises 1.44m = 80% of LTA

• Leaving 20% of LTA (currently £360,000)

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April 19, 2023

Loss of fixed protection after vesting• Contributes on 6 April 2014, Loses Fixed protection informs HMRC

• 1 June 2014 – crystallises remaining fund of now £400,000

• Has remaining LTA of 20% of 1.5m to use = £300,000

• Only has LTA charge on £100,000

• If he had not applied for fixed only 4% of LTA would remain– LTA charge on £340,000

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• If you clients are not contributing and looking to take benefits soon, why not apply

• There appear to be no downsides to applying

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Protected Rights

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April 19, 202310 January 2012

What is happening

• 6th April 2012 – they no longer exist

• No contracted out rebates to money purchase schemes

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April 19, 202310 January 2012

We are talking small pots?• No!

Example: • Joined final salary scheme is 1997• Left in 2010• Final salary of £80,000• 1/60th scheme• Age 50

• Pension at leaving 17,333 pa• Estimate of CETV could be £300,000

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April 19, 202310 January 2012

What this means?

• Can be used for Flexible Drawdown

• No restrictions on the type of annuity, if purchased – may be able to purchase larger annuity

• No death benefit restrictions

• Less paperwork and reporting requirements

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Flexible Drawdown

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Things to remember

• No contributions in the year you enter flexible drawdown

• No Annual allowance thereafter

• MIR must be received in the tax year

• Proof is required

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Summary

• Fixed protection – don’t wait

• Carry forward – are they missing out?

• Flexible drawdown – Don’t forget, stop contributions!

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Contact usT 0870 414 7000F 0870 414 8000

[email protected]

Page 29: SIPP Seminars 2012 #SIPPS2012 This is not a consumer advertisement, it is intended for professional financial advisers and should not be relied upon by

• Suffolk Life is the trading name of Suffolk Life Pensions Limited (registered in England and Wales number 1180742) and Suffolk Life Annuities Limited (registered in England and Wales number 1011674).

• Both are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority.• The registered address of both companies is 153 Princes Street, Ipswich,

Suffolk IP1 1QJ.• Telephone calls to Suffolk Life are recorded for training, monitoring and

fact verification purposes.• Suffolk Life provides, operates and administers self-invested personal

pensions and similar pension products.• Information regarding tax and practice is based on Suffolk Life's

understanding at the time this presentation was put together of legislation and HM Revenue and Customs policy. Legislation and HM Revenue and Customs policy and practice may change in the future. 

• This presentation is for adviser use only and is not to be used with clients.

• Tel: 0870 414 7000 Fax: 0870 414 8000• Web: www.suffolklife.co.uk• E-mail: [email protected]