saakasvilis `somxuri ocneba~ · doeba 9 marts gaecnoba. misi tqmit, saparlamento sexvedraze...

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C M Y K #12 (196) 7-13.III, 2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari biZina ivaniSvili: nodar xaduri: gazeTis dRevandeli nomeri 36 gverdiania `ai, es gadaeciT Cemgan qalbaton ninos...~ xom vambobdi _ mogenatraT vova? _ waikuzeT, mova-Tqo?! `Cveni gundia saqarTvelo. ar arsebobs sxva gundebi da am gundurobiT Tu wavalT, ver mivalT Cven miznamde~ adamianebs molodini ar unda gavucruoT hamlet WipaSvili: hamlet WipaSvili: xmamaRla vacxadeb _ arCevnebis gziT am xelisuflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia! saakaSvilis `somxuri ocneba~ ÅÐÅÂÀÍ - ÌÎÑÊÂÀ vin aris qarTveli? _ qarTveli aris adamiani, vinc qarTul enaSi cxovrobs! levan Rvinjilia: aqa ambavi Citi Ciorasi da kidev sxva Citunebisa...

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Page 1: saakaSvilis `somxuri ocneba~ · doeba 9 marts gaecnoba. misi TqmiT, saparlamento Sexvedraze sxvadasxva ministris klanuri muSaobis sqemebi dokumenturad iqneba warmodgenili. „qarTu-li

C M Y K

#12 (196) 7-13.III, 2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari

biZina ivaniSvili: nodar xaduri:

gazeTis dRevandeli nomeri 36 gverdiania

`ai, es gadaeciT Cemganqalbaton ninos...~

xom vambobdi _mogenatraT vova? _waikuzeT, mova-Tqo?!

`Cveni gundia saqarTvelo. ar arsebobs

sxva gundebi da am gundurobiT Tu

wavalT, ver mivalT Cven miznamde~

adamianebsmolodini

ar unda gavucruoT

hamlet WipaSvili:hamlet WipaSvili: xmamaRla vacxadeb _ arCevnebisgziT am xelisuflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia!

saak

aSvi

lis

`som

xuri

ocn

eba~

ÅÐÅÂÀÍ - ÌÎÑÊÂÀ

vin aris qarTveli?_ qarTveli

aris adamiani, vinc qarTul

enaSi cxovrobs!

levan Rvinjilia:

aqa ambavi Citi Ciorasi da kidev sxvaCitunebisa...

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saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.2

gazeTi xxelmZRvanelobs TTavisufali ppresis pprincipiT.SesaZloa, aavtoris ppozicia aar eeTanxmebodes rredaqciis aazrs.informaciis ssizusteze ppasuxismgebelia aavtori. ggasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia mmasalis ggamoqveynebidan eerTi kkviris vvadaSi.

Semosuli mmasalebi aavtorebs aar uubrundeba.aamm nniiSSnniiTT aaRRnniiSSnnuulliiaa ssaarreekkllaammoo mmaassaalleebbii..

`saerTo gazeTi~mmTTaavvaarrii rreeddaaqqttoorrii:: vvaaxxttaanngg xxaarrCCiillaavvaa

gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~

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rreeggiissttrraacciiiiss ##220022337755334499

calmxrivi siyvaruli cudi ramea, gan-

sakuTrebiT cudia is, roca saqme politi-

kas da saxelmwifoTaSoris urTierTobas

exeba.

saqarTvelo vnebamoWarbebul im turfa

qalbatons hgavs, romelsac Tavmoyvareoba

daukargavs da yvelas daufaravad ekurku-

reba da efiandazeba, miuxedavad imisa, rom

sapasuxod srul gulgrilobas da ignori-

rebas iRebs.

Cven calmxrivi, uimedo siyvaruliT

gviyvars yvela Cveni mezobeli, imaT ki,

rogorc ityvian, sul cal fexze vkidi-

varT da Cven-

save saxlSi

ise gveqcevian,

TiTqos es sa-

xli Cveni ki

ara maTi iyos.

mezoblebs

rom Tavi dava-

neboT, Cven

calmxrivi si-

yvaruliT gv-

iyvars amerike-

lic da evro-

pelic, Cine-

lic da indoe-

lic, nigerielic da zanzibarielic.

mokled rom movWraT, yvelas TvalebSi

SevcicinebT, yvelas Casaxuteblad da

gulSi Casakravad vepotinebiT, imaT ki uk-

virT, ras gveRlabucebian es sabraloebio?

siyvarulis buSti gvaqvs gamskdari da

siyvarulis Seukavebloba anu siyvarulis

enurezia gvWirs.

ager axlaxan, ruseTTan, okupant qveya-

nasTan uvizo reJimi SemoviReT calmxri-

vad da calmxrivad gavuReT karebi _ mob-

rZandiT, mobrZandiT, ar mogeridoT, yve-

lani modiT, mTavaria, siyvaruli iyos da

yvelani daveteviTo.

rusebi yovelgvari dabrkolebis gareSe

Tavisuflad Semodian maTTvis specialu-

rad gaRebuli saqarTvelos karebSi qarT-

velebi malulad, qurdulad Tu Sevipare-

biT ruseTSi, mere ki maspinZlebs Tu ra-

Rac ar moewonaT, panRuriT gvyrian iqidan.

Tumca raRa marto ruseTidan _ Cven

gvyrian TurqeTidan, evropidan, aziidan,

amerikidan, radgan yvelgan aralegalurad,

anu ukanonod varT Separuli.

gasaocaria pirdapir, Cven yvelgan uka-

nonoebi varT, CvenTan saqarTveloSi ki

yvela kanonieria da yvela Cvenze gacile-

biT Tavisuflad da laRad grZnobs Tavs.

vSiSob, male TviT saqarTveloSic ar

gamogvacxadon aralegalebad, Torem saqar-

Tvelos sazRvrebs gareT, cxadia, iatakq-

veSeTSi cxovrebisTvis varT gametebulni.

rac Seexeba uvizo reJims ruseTTan,

rusebs Cveni viza raRaSi sWirdebaT _ mo-

isurveben, goramde movlen, moisurveben,

TbilisSi Semogrialdebian.

vaxtang xarCilava

redaqtoris sveti

biZina ivaniSvilis iuristTa jgu-

fis gancxadebiT, kontrolis palatis

mier 27 Tebervals gamotanili dadge-

nilebiT, 200 000 lariT dajarime-

bul nugzar xuciSvils Tbilisis sa-

qalaqo sasamarTlom sasarCelo wesiT

am sakiTxis marTlmsajulebaze uari

uTxra. amis Sesaxeb gancxadeba biZina

ivaniSvilis Tanagundelma iuristma

arCil kbilaSvilma dRes sastumro

„Tbilisi mariotSi“ gamarTul pres-

konferenciaze gaakeTa.

„sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia, rom

kontrolis palatam 2012 wlis 27

Tebervals gamoitana dadgenileba,

romliTac Sps „qarTu mSenebeli“ sa-

zogadoebrivi moZraoba „qarTuli oc-

neba“ da fizikuri piri nugzar xu-

ciSvili 200-200 aTasi lariT daja-

rimdnen. dajarimebis safuZveli gaxda

kontrolis palatis varaudi, rom

Sps „qarTu mSenebelma“ misi TanamS-

romlis nugzar xuciSvilis meSveo-

biT sazogadoebrivi moZraoba „qar-

Tul ocnebas“ Tanxa ukanonod Ses-

wira“, _ ganacxada kbilaSvilma da

dasZina, rom es dadgenileba nugzar

xuciSvilma sasarCelo wesiT 2012

wlis 1 marts Tbilisis saqalaqo sa-

samarTloSi gaasaCivra. 2012 wlis 2

marts nugzar xuciSvilma miiRo sasa-

marTlos ganCineba, romliTac mas

uari eTqva sarCelis ganxilvaze. gar-

da amisa, sasamarTlom xuciSvils re-

komendacia misca, rom am saqmeze sasa-

marTloSi ara sarCeli, aramed saCiva-

ri Seetana.

„miuxedavad imisa, rom nugzar xu-

ciSvilis sarCels Tan erTvoda yvela

dokumenti, sasamarTlom maTi dausa-

buTebeli ugulebelyofis xarjze

nugzar xuciSvils Tavisi uflebebis

efeqtiani dacvis saSualeba mouspo.

niSandoblivia isic, rom 1 marts sa-

Ramos 17.30 saaTze Setanil sarCel-

ze sasamarTlom uaryofiTi pasuxi

ukve 2 martis SuadRisTvis Caabara

nugzar xuciSvils. moqmedi kanonm-

deblobisa da dRemde arsebuli sasa-

marTlo praqtikis ignorirebiT, sar-

Celis ganxilvaze sasamarTlos uari,

iseve rogorc misi aralogikurad

forsirebuli moqmedeba naTels xdis,

rom sasamarTlom Secvala praqtika

mxolod imitom, rom es dakavSirebu-

lia „qarTul ocnebasTan“ _ ganacxa-

da kbiloaSvilma da dasZina, rom sa-

samarTlo sarCelis ganxilvas SesaZ-

loa ramdenime Tvec moundes maSin,

rodesac saCivris ganxilva rogorc

wesi, ramdenime kviraSi sruldeba.

„amiT cxadi xdeba isic, rom sasa-

marTlo yovel mxriv cdilobs, rac

SeiZleba swrafad daajarimos nugzar

xuciSvili, riTac sasamarTlos damo-

ukideblobisa da miukerZoeblobis

principi ugulebelyofilia“, _ aR-

niSna man.

dRevandel preskonferencias, gar-

da kbilaSvilisa, biZina ivaniSvilis

Tanagundeli iuristi zaqaria qucnaS-

vili, aseve „qarTu jgufis“ warmo-

madgenlebi, nugzar xuciSvilis advo-

kati ala kaxniauric eswrebodnen.

advokatebis TqmiT, isini am saqmes-

Tan dakavSirebiT danebebas ar apire-

ben da samarTlebriv davas gaagrZele-

ben.

sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia xa-

Suris policiis raionul sammarTve-

loSi braldebul solomon qimeri-

Zis tragikulad daRupvis faqti.

rogorc Sinagan saqmeTa saminist-

ros mier gavrcelebul versiaSia

naTqvami, braldebuli solomon qime-

riZe dakiTxvis dros xaSuris raio-

nuli sammarTvelos administraciu-

li Senobis mesame sarTulidan meo-

re sarTulze Camosvlisas, kibis mo-

ajiridan (?!) gadmovarda da sxeu-

lis mravlobiTi dazianebis Sedegad

saavadmyofoSi gardaicvala. saqmes-

Tan dakavSirebiT aRZrulia sisxlis

samarTlis saqme da mimdinareobs ga-

moZieba.

arada, masmediaSi gavrcelebuli

fotoebidan daRupuls aSkarad

etyoba sastiki cemis kvali, es ki

Sinagan saqmeTa saministros mier

gavrcelebul versias seriozul eW-

vqveS ayenebs.

xelisufleba, ukve mravali we-

lia, imiT trabaxobs, rom warsuls

Cabarda dro, rodesac patimrebi po-

liciis Senobidan cviodnen da amas

Tavis umTavres damsaxurebad mii-

wers. ase iyo guSinac, 28 Teber-

vals, rodesac prezidentma saakaS-

vilma parlamentSi yovelwliuri

moxsenebiT gamosvlisas kidev er-

Txel siamayiT ganacxada, rom axla

patimrebi aRar vardebian Sss-s fan-

jrebidan. swored am dros, socia-

lur qselebSi daRupuli solomon

qimeriZis Semzaravi kadrebi vrcel-

deboda, Sss-s pressamsaxuri ki ofi-

cialurad acxadebda, rom braldebu-

li policiis Senobis kibidan gadmo-

varda.

nebismier qveyanaSi, romelsac

raRac pretenzia gaaCnia demokrati-

ulobaze, aseT saeWvo viTarebaSi pa-

timris daRupvas myisierad mohyvebo-

da Sesabamisi Tanamdebobis pirebis

pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxis dasma.

koalicia „qarTuli ocneba“ katego-

riulad iTxovs Sinagan saqmeTa sami-

nistrosgan, Catardes damoukidebe-

li eqspertiza, bolomde iqnes gamo-

Ziebuli es saqme da pasuxisgebaSi

mieces yvela damnaSave piri. gamoZi-

ebis dasrulebamde ki, xaSuris po-

liciis raionis sammarTvelos uf-

rosi gadayenebul iqnes dakavebuli

Tanamdebobidan.

xaSuris policiis sammarTvels ufrosis gaTavisuf-

lebasTan dakavSirebiT

xaSuris policiis sammarTveloSi, savaraudod, mok-

lul solomon qimeriZis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT koali-

cia „qarTulma ocnebam“ pirvelive dRidan mwvave pro-

testi gamoTqva, koaliciis Tavmjdomarem biZina ivaniS-

vilma specialuri gancxadeba gaakeTa, xelisuflebas

mosTxova gamoZiebis dasrulebamde policiis ufrosis

gaTavisufleba da yvela damnaSave piris dasja.

rogorc koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“, ise sazogado-

ebisa da arasamTavrobo organizaciebis Zalisxmevis Se-

degad xaSuris policiis sammarTvelos ufrosi giorgi

xarSilaZe Tanamdebobidan gaTavisuflda. policiam ukan

daixia. aseTi

ram, ase swra-

fad pirvelad

moxda, magram

es sruliad ar

aris sakmarisi.

samarTlianobis

aRdgenas da

dacvas gacile-

biT meti sWirdeba. amitom, arCevnebSi gamarjvebis Sem-

deg, vpirdebiT yvelas, rom am da yvela aseT saqmes bo-

lomde miviyvanT da konkretuli damnaSaveebi pasuxs age-

ben kanonis winaSe.

politikuri koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadeba

sasamarTlom iivaniSvilis kkompaniis TTanamSromlis ssarCeli aar mmiiRo

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadeba

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3#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

ppoolliittiikkuurrii kkooaalliicciiaa

„„qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbiiss““ lliiddeerrii

bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii `̀ssaaxxaallxxoo

kkrreebbiissaa~~ ddaa `̀qqaarrTTuullii aakkaaddee-

mmiiiiss~~ wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbss SSeexxvv-

ddaa.. SSeexxvveeddrriiss SSeessaaxxeebb iinn-

ffoorrmmaacciiaassaa ddaa vviiddeeoommaassaallaass

iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss pprreessssaammddiivvnnoo aavv-

rrcceelleebbss..

rrooggoorrcc aaRRnniiSSnnuullii

kkaaddrreebbiiddaann iirrkkvveevvaa,,

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ggaassuullii wwlliiss 2266 mmaaiissss

rruussTTaavveelliiss mmooeeddaannzzee

ggaannvviiTTaarreebbuullii mmoovvllee-

nneebbii ggaanniixxiilleess..

`nebismieris qmedeba,

vinc 26 maiss iq iyo,

me miviCnev, rom aris

gmiroba Tqveni da yve-

la im adamianis mxri-

dan, vinc iq ikribebo-

da, garda politikosebisa,

romelTac sxvanairi valde-

bulebebi aqvT. absolutu-

rad gmirobad mimaCnia, da

Zalian samwuxaroa, rom gmi-

robisTvis, Tavisi qveynis

siyvarulisTvis Zalian bev-

ri mZimed daisaja. me vici,

rom arian gardacvlilebic

da Zalian samwuxaroa, rom

es yvelaferi moxda. es Cve-

ni moZalade xelisuflebis

bralia”, _ ganacxada ivaniS-

vilma.

`qarTuli ocnebis~ li-

deris sityvis Semdeg, Sex-

vedraze gancxadeba “saxal-

xo krebis” liderma nona

gafrindaSvilma gaakeTa. misi

TqmiT, “saxalxo krebis”

idea “am gziT samarTlia-

ni arCevnebis Catarebis

miRweva iyo”.

`Cvengan xelisufleba-

Si mosvlas aravin apireb-

da da dResac aravin api-

rebs~, _ ganacxada gafrin-

daSvilma.

`demokratiul arCevnebam-

de didi dro iyo qalbato-

no nona~, _ aRniSna ivaniS-

vilma.

gafrindaSvilis

TqmiT, ki demokrati-

uli arCevnebi, rom

ar iqneboda, maT es

icodnen.

`dRes Tqven Zali-

an maRali reitingi

gaqvT sazogadoebaSi

da amitom gaxda Se-

saZlebeli...~, _ mi-

marTa `saxalxo kre-

bis” Tavamjdomarem

biZina ivaniSvils.

rogorc ivaniSvi-

lis pressamdivnos

mier gavrcelebuli kadrebi-

dan irkveva, Sexvedris mona-

wileebma, savaraudod, “de-

mokratiuli moZraobis” li-

der da ‘saxalxo krebis”

aRmasrulebeli sabWos

wevris, nino burjanaZis

Sesaxebac isaubres.

qalbatoni ninos Se-

saxeb gancxadeba bbiiZZiinnaa

iivvaanniiSSvviillmmaa gaakeTa:

`Cveni gundia sa-qarTvelo. ar arse-bobs sxva gundebida am gundurobiTTu wavalT, ver mi-valT Cven miznamdeda amas ver gavake-TebT. Cemi TavisT-vis movedi me aq imi-tom, rom es Cemi sam-Sobloa, Cemia, sxvaganar davdgebodi da Tavsar gavwiravdi. asexarT Tqvenc, Tqveni,romaa es samSoblo,imitom gindaT Tavi ga-wiroT. sakuTari inte-resebisTvis ibrZvisadamiani pirvel rig-Si, me-dan da Cemi-danmodis yvelaferi, mag-ram niWierma adamianmaunda moaxerxos konk-retul situaciaSiswori prioritetebisgakeTeba da ar unda

darCe patara bavSvi-viT, rom Cemi da me – ai,es gadaeciT Cemganqalbaton ninos. araris aucilebeli mii-Ro monawileoba, TuSeni monawileobiT kiar exmarebi, azianeb.aseT SemTxvevaSi undadaiWiro iseTi pozi-cia, iseTi mdgomareo-ba unda airCio, rom sa-erTo saqmes Tu ver mi-exmarebi, ar daazianomainc. es aris Cemi mo-qalaqeobrivi pozi-cia, Cemi msoflmxedve-lobac esaa, ase mi-cxovria dRemde, asevzrdi Cems Svilebs,ase SemiZlia qalba-ton ninosac gadavceda movuwodo~.

biZina ivaniSvilTan Sex-

vedras `saxalxo krebis~

wevrebi: nona gafrindaSvi-

li, luka kurtaniZe, soso

jaWvliani, rezo esaZe, aseve

`qarTuli akademiis~ warmo-

madgenlebi nukri qanTaria,

Temur naneiSvili, mwerali

merab SaTiriSvili da sxve-

bi eswrebodnen.

biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:

`ai, es gadaeciT Cemgan qalbaton ninos...~

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ttoorrss mmiimmaarrTTaa,, TTuu vviinnmmeess ppaarrllaammeennttiiss,, pprreezziiddeennttiiss,,

mmiissii ggaarreemmooccvviiss aann mmTTaavvrroobbiiss wweevvrreebbiiss mmxxrriiddaann kkoo-

rruuffcciiaaSSii mmoonnaawwiilleeoobbiiss ddaammaaddaassttuurreebbeellii ddookkuummeenn-

tteebbii eeqqnneebbaa,, ssaakkaannoonnmmddeebblloo iinniicciiaattiivviiss aavvttoorreebbss ggaa-

ddaasscceenn.. bbaaRRaaTTuu-

rriiaa aamm ppiirreebbss

kkoonnffiiddeenncciiaalluu-

rroobbiiss ggaarraannttiiaass

aaZZlleevvss..

dd ee ppuuttaattiiss

mmoossaazzrreebbiiTT,, kkoo-

mmiissiiaa pprreezziiddeenn-

ttiiss,, mmiissii ggaarreemmooccvviiss,, oojjaaxxiiss wweevvrreebbiissaa ddaa uummaaRRllee-

ssii CCiinnoovvnniikkeebbiiss kkoorruuffcciiuullii ssaaqqmmeeeebbiiss SSeessaasswwaavvllaadd

uunnddaa SSeeiiqqmmnnaass mmiissii TTqqmmiiTT,, mmssggaavvss ffaaqqtteebbss yyvveellaa ccii-

vviilliizzeebbuull qqvveeyyaannaaSSii iiZZiieebbeenn..

jjoonnddii bbaaRRaaTTuurriiaamm aaqqvvee 2288 TTeebbeerrvvaallss ppaarrllaammeenntt-

SSii pprreezziiddeennttiiss aannggaarriiSSiiTT ggaammoossvvllaa ddaa kkoorruuffcciiaass-

TTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbuullii ffaaqqtteebbii ggaaiixxsseennaa,, rroommlleebbiicc mmaann

pprreezziiddeennttss ddookkuummeenntteebbiiss ssaaxxiiTT wwaarruuddggiinnaa..

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qqaarrTTuullii mmxxaarriiss mmiieerr rruu-

sseeTTTTaann ccaallmmxxrriivvaadd ssaavviizzoo

rreeJJiimmiiss ggaauuqqmmeebbiiss TTaaoobbaazzee ddaa

ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo-rruusseeTTss SSoorriiss

ddiipplloommaattiiuurrii uurrTTiieerrTToobbiiss

aaRRddggeenniiss ppeerrssppeeqqttiivvaazzee ,,,,ssaaeerr-

TToo ggaazzeeTTss~~ rruusseeTTiiss ffeeddeerraa-

cciiaaSSii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss yyooffiillii

eellCCii,, ppoolliittiikkiiss mmeeccnniieerreebbaaTTaa

ddooqqttoorrii zurab abaSiZeeessaauubbrraa..

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rruusseeTTTTaann

ssaavviizzoo rreeJJiimmiiss ccaallmmxxrriivvaadd ggaa-

uuqqmmeebbaa uummnniiSSvvnneelloovvaanneess ppoollii-

ttiikkuurr nnaabbiijjaadd SSeeffaassddaa.. TTqqvveenn

rraass ffiiqqrroobbTT,, pprreezziiddeennttiiss iinnii-

cciiaattiivvaazzee ddaa rraass SSeeiiZZlleebbaa

uukkaavvSSiirrddeebbooddeess mmiixxeeiill ssaaaakkaaSS-

vviilliiss eess ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbaa??

_ dRes or qveyanas Soris

procesebi imdenad CixSi Sesu-

li da dramatulia, principSi

qarTuli mxridan aseTi ga-

dawyvetileba dadebiTad SeiZ-

leba Sefasdes. me piradad, mi-

vesalmebi nebismier gonivrul

gadawyvetilebas, romelic

qarTul-rusuli urTierTobis

daregulirebiskenaa mimarTu-

li.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,,

pprreezziiddeennttiiss ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbaa

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii SSeeqqmmnniill vviiTTrree-

bbaass uukkaavvSSiirrddeebbooddeess?? vvgguulliissxx-

mmoobb,, bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss ppoollii-

ttiikkuurr aassppaarreezzzzee ggaammooCCeennaass,, aann

TTuunnddaacc rruusseeTTSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree

ppoolliittiikkuurr pprroocceesseebbss..

_ SesaZloa, es gadawyveti-

leba marTlac ukavSirdebodes

orive aspeqts. Tumca, sabo-

loo jamSi, rusi xalxis misa-

marTiT, Cveni mxridan, es erT-

gvari pozitiuri gzavnilia.

qarTvelebs rus xalxTan

problemebi ar gvaqvs, Cven

problema ruseTis xelisuf-

lebasTan gvaqvs. vfiqrob, am

gadawyvetilebaSi saxifaTo da

sarisko araferia. TavisTavad,

pasportSi viza Caewebeba Tu

ara, risk-faqtorebs es arc

zrdis da arc amcirebs. prin-

cipSi, vizas ufro simboluri

datvirTva aqvs, radgan sazR-

varze gadmosuli pirovnebis

Semowmeba nebismier SemTxveva-

Si mainc xdeba.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rruusseeTTTTaann

ccaallmmxxrriivvaadd ssaavviizzoo rreeJJiimmiiss ggaa-

uuqqmmeebbaass rraa ddaaddeebbiiTTii pplluusseebbii

eeqqnneebbaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloossTTvviiss??

_ upirveles yovlisa, sa-

qarTveloSi turistebis mosa-

zidad, SesaZloa, damatebiTi

stimuli gaxdes. moskovSi

uamravi Cveni Tanamemamule

cxovrobs da cxadia, es ga-

dawyvetileba maTzec dadebi-

TaT imuSavebs. SesaZloa, es

iyos investorebis mozidvis

erT-erTi elementic. Tumca

investors vizebis garda, ro-

gor wesi, ufro sxva moTxov-

nebi gaaCnia.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rrooggoorr

ffiiqqrroobbTT,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii rruussuu-

llii iinnvveessttiicciieebbiissTTvviiss xxeellaayy-

rreellii ggaarreemmooppiirroobbeebbiiaa??

_ dRes ruseTidan xdeba

kapitalis gadineba. qveynidan

marto SarSan, daaxloebiT, 80

miliardi dolari gavida.

msoflioSi dRes rTuli eko-

nomikuri viTarebaa. investici-

ebi cotaa, amitom investoreb-

ze midis namdvili nadiroba.

saqarTveloSic am kuTxiT, aq-

tiurad unda vimuSaoT da in-

vestorebisTvis ufro xelsay-

reli pirobebi SevqmnaT. Tuki

ruseTTan urTierTobebis gaum-

jobesebis tendencia gaCndeba,

es ucxour investiciebsac wa-

axalisebs.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rruusseeTTiiss

ffeeddeerraacciiaamm ggaammooTTqqvvaa mmzzaaoobbaa ssaa-

qqaarrTTvveellooss mmooqqaallaaqqeeeebbiissTTvviiss

ssaavviizzoo rreeJJiimmii ggaaaauuqqmmooss ddaa ssaa-

qqaarrTTvveelloossTTaann ddiipplloommaattiiuurrii

uurrTTiieerrTToobbaa aaRRaaddggiinnooss.. rrooggoorr

ffiiqqrroobbTT,, aarrsseebboobbss aammiiss rreeaa-

lluurrii SSeessaaZZlleebblloobbaa??

_ qarTuli mxaris gzavni-

lis sapasuxod ruseTis xeli-

sufleba iZulebuli gaxda Ta-

visi pozicia gamoexata. ruse-

Tis sagareo saqmeTa saminist-

ros gancxadebaSi ori momen-

tia gasaTvaliswinebeli: er-

Ti_savizo reJimis moxsna, me-

ore_diplomatiuri urTier-

Tobis aRdgena.

ruseTis mxridan savizo

reJimis gauqmebas rac Seexeba,

maT am sakiTxSi saqarTvelos

Tanxmoba sulac ar sWirdebaT.

2001 wels ruseTis mxarem

roca saqarTvelosTan savizo

reJimi calmxrivad SemoiRo,

amis Sesaxeb maT aravisTvis ar

ukiTxavT, maT Soris arc qar-

Tuli mxarisTvis. ase rom, ru-

seTs Tu savizo reJimis gauq-

meba surs_gaauqmos.Ees, prin-

cipSi, dadebiTad iqneba Sefa-

sebuli saqarTveloSic da da-

savleTSic

mxareebs Soris diplomati-

uri urTierTobis aRdgenas

rac Seexeba, am etapze amis ve-

ranair winapirobas ver vxe-

dav. manmade, sanam rusuli mxa-

re ar gaiyvans saqarTvelos

teritoriidan jarebs, raime

qmediTi nabijebis gadadgmaze

saubari naadrevia. axla dip-

lomatiuri urTierTobebis aR-

dgena Cveni mxridan afxazeTisa

da samxreT oseTis damouki-

deblobis aRiarebis tolfasi

iqneba. ris Sedegadac, faqtob-

rivad, Cven TviTon davakano-

nebT im viTarebas, rac ruseT-

ma agvistos omis Semdeg daam-

kvidra.

__ qqaarrTTuullmmaa mmxxaarreemm rruussee-

TTiiss xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss SSeeTTaavvaazzee-

bbaa mmoorriigg ppiiaarr-kkaammppaanniiaadd aaRRiiqqvvaa..

TTqqvveenn rraass ffiiqqrroobbTT??

_ ruseTis mxarem kargad

icis, rom arsebul viTarebaSi

diplomatiur urTierTobebze

qarTuli mxare molaparakebe-

bis dawyebas ar daTanxmdeba.

Amitom, SesaZloa, piaris

WrilSi ganvixiloT maTi es

iniciativa. ruseTma samxreT

oseTisa da afxazeTis damouki-

deblobis aRiarebiT samarT-

lebrivi Cixi Seqmna. amitom am

etapze aravin icis, rogor un-

da gamovideT am samarTlebri-

vi Cixidan.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, TTqqvveenn rroo-

ggoorr wwaarrmmooggiiddggeenniiaaTT ssaammxxrreeTT

oosseeTTiissaa ddaa aaffxxaazzeeTTiiss ssaakkiiTTxxiiss

ddaarreegguulliirreebbaa,, mmiiTT uuffrroo mmaaSSiinn,,

rrooccaa rruusseeTTmmaa mmaaTTii ddaammoouukkiiddeebb-

lloobbaa aaRRiiaarraa.. aammiiss SSeemmddeegg ssaa-

qqaarrTTvveelloossTTaann ssuurrss ddiipplloommaa-

ttiiuurrii uurrTTiieerrTToobbiiss aaRRddggeennaa??

_ dRes Zalian rTuli saT-

qmelia, Tu rogor unda mox-

des am problemis gadaWra. mi-

Tumetes, ruseTis mxare ar

apirebs ukan daxevas da samx-

reT oseTisa da afxazeTTan mi-

marTebaSi poziciis Secvlas.

meore mxriv, veranairi xeli-

sufleba saqarTveloSi ver Se-

egueba arsebul viTarebas. ami-

tom, gamosavali jer ar Cans.

Tumca, gamouvali viTareba ar

arsebobs. mTavaria iyos poli-

tikuri neba.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,,

ppuuttiinnmmaa 44 mmaarrttiiss aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss

SSeemmddeegg ppoozziicciiaa SSeeiiccvvaallooss ddaa

ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss mmTTaavvrroobbaassTTaann mmoo-

llaappaarraakkeebbeebbss ddaassTTaannxxmmddeess??

_ vfiqrob, uaxloes moma-

valSi am kuTxiT cvlilebebi

mosalodneli araa. dRes mos-

kovSi sxva problemebiT arian

dakavebulni. maT arCevnebis

Semdeg samTavrobo struqtu-

rebi unda Camoayalibon, rac

martivi saqme araa. ase rom,

putinis mTavrobas saqarTve-

losTvis jerjerobiT ar sca-

lia. amasTan, isini daelodebi-

an Semodgomaze saqarTveloSi

movlenebi rogor ganviTardeba.

Aqtiurobas ufro savaWro

ekonomikuri TvalsazrisiT ve-

li. Cveni produqcia Rvino, mi-

neraluri wyalebi nel-nela

daubrundeba rusul bazars,

rac TavisTavad win gadadgmu-

li nabijia.

__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, ffaaqqttoobbrrii-

vvaadd,, vvllaaddiimmeerr ppuuttiinniiss xxeellii-

ssuufflleebbaaSSii mmoossvvlliiss ssaakkiiTTxxii

ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilliiaa.. rrooggoorr ffiiqq-

rroobbTT,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,, ppuuttiinnmmaa ddaa-

ssaavvlleeTTiiss mmiimmaarrTT TTaavviissii ppoollii-

ttiikkaa uuffrroo SSeeaarrbbiillooss ddaa

llooiiaalluurrii ggaaxxddeess??

_ dRes bevri msjelobaa

imasTan dakavSirebiT, Tu ro-

gori iqneba putinis politika,

ufro mkacri, Tu SedarebiT

rbili. vfiqrob, dasavleTis

misamarTiT misi ganwyoba ar

Seicvleba da is isev antida-

savluri principebis erTguli

darCeba. qveynis SigniT ki gar-

kveul cvlilebebs ganaxorci-

elebs, Tumca es, albaT, ufro

kosmetikuri cvlilebebi iqne-

ba. Tumca davelodoT movle-

nebs. rogorc uinston CerCili

ityoda, ruseTi “matrioSkasa-

viT” gamocanaSi Cadebuli ga-

mocanaao.

miranda nabaxteveli

zurab abaSiZe: zurab abaSiZe: ruseTis mTavrobasTan Cveni mxridan dialogze wasvla afxazeTisa da

samxreT oseTis damoukideblobis aRiarebis tolfasi iqneba

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.netSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zze

Tbilisis zzogierT uubans eleqtromomarageba

droebiT SSeezRudebaTelasis cnobiT, sare-

monto samuSaoebis gamo 7

marts 10 saaTidan 16 sa-

aTamde CuRureTis raio-

nis nawils eleqtroener-

giis miwodeba droebiT

SeezRudeba.

SezRudva Seexeba: aR-

maSeneblis gamziris (na-

wilobriv), winamZRvriS-

vilis, javaxiSvilis, uznaZis, marjaniSvilis da

mimdebare quCebis macxovreblebs.

xvalve 7 marts 11 saaTidan 17 saaTamde sa-

burTalos raionis nawils eleqtroenergiis mi-

wodeba droebiT SeezRudeba.

SezRudva Seexeba: sairmis goris, burZglas,

sairmis da mimdebare quCebis macxovreblebs.

saremonto samuSaoebis dasrulebisTanave

abonentebs eleqtromomarageba aRudgebaT.

saqarTvelos TTurquli delegacia sstumrobs

saqarTvelos TurqeTis sabaJo administraci-

is delegacia stumrobs.

delegaciis wevrebi Tbilisis gaformebis

ekonomikur zonas ewvivnen da mis struqturas,

muSaobis principebsa da danergil siaxleebs ga-

ecnen. stumrebma konkretuli departamentebis

muSaobis Sesaxeb informacia maTi xelmZRvanele-

bisgan miiRes.

erTkviriani vizitis farglebSi delegaciis

wevrebi foTisa da adliis gaformebis ekonomi-

kur zonebsac moinaxuleben da baTumis portsa

da sarfis sabaJos estumrebian.

vizitis mizani ganxorcielebuli reformebis

gacnoba da gamocdilebis gaziarebaa.

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cota xania gasuli axali

politikuri partiis ””qqarTu-

li ocneba-ddemokratiuli sa-

qqarTvelos”” sainiciativo

jgufis prezentaciidan da

politikuri koalicia „qqar-

Tuli ocnebis“ dafuZnebidan,

Tumca sazogadoebis did na-

wilSi molodini, rogorc

partiis mSeneblobis, aseve

koaliciis mimarT, sakmaod ma-

Ralia. koaliciis ganviTare-

bis da mosalodneli siaxlee-

bis Sesaxeb vesaubrebiT koa-

licia ””qqarTuli ocnebis”” po-

litikuri sabWWos aRmasrule-

bel mdivans, politikuri par-

tia „qqarTuli ocneba–demok-

ratiuli saqqarTvelos“ saini-

ciativo jgufis wevrs no-dar xadurs.

_ batono nodar, ra etap-

zea koaliciis formireba?

”qarTul ocnebaSi” axali sa-

xeebis gamoCenas unda elodos

sazogadoeba? rodis igegmeba

axali partiis yriloba, ra

mdgomareobaa regionebSi?

_ koalicia ”qarTul oc-

nebaSi” gaerTianda axali po-

litikuri partia ”qarTuli

ocneba – demokratiuli sa-

qarTvelo”, ”Tavisufali de-

mokratebi”, ”respublikuri

partia”, aseve cnobili poli-

tikosebi - zviad ZiZiguri,

koba daviTaSvili. koaliciis

kari ar aris daketili.. Cven

mowadinebuli varT, rom axa-

li saxeebis integracia maqsi-

malurad moxdes da politi-

kuri procesi ufro gaZlier-

des. am mimarTulebiT mimdina-

reobs sakamod saintereso aq-

tiuri konsultaciebi.

sazogadoebisaTvis cnobi-

lia, rom qalbatoni guguli

maRraZe apirebs ”qalTa parti-

is” datovebas Cvens partias-

Tan TanamSromlobis mizniT.

analogiuri molaparakebebi

mimdinareobs sxva politiku-

ri Zalebis warmomadgenleb-

Tan. ar minda, movlenebs ga-

vuswro da amiT

garkveuli safr-

Txe Sevuqmna am

process, amdenad

konkretikisagan

Tavs Sevikaveb.

Tumca, garwmunebT,

bevr saintereso adamians na-

xavT im politikur ZalaSi,

romlis damfuZnebeli yrilo-

ba martis bolos-aprilis da-

sawyisSi igegmeba.

am etapze mzaddeba parti-

is sadamfuZneblo dokumenta-

cia, iseve, rogorc damfuZne-

beli yriloba. partiis prog-

ramaze bevri adamiani muSaobs.

amjerad mosamzadebeli etapia

da amitomac, ”ar Cans” samuSa-

oebi. merwmuneT, Zalian bevri

adamiania CarTuli am muSaoba-

Si, rom Cvenma samuSaom kargi

Sedegi gamoiRos da miviRoT

is Sedegi, rasac sruliad sa-

qarTvelo elodeba. adamianebs

molodini ar unda gavucru-

oT.

amasTan, uamravi adamiani

modis, romelic gamoxatavs

mzadyofnas aqtiuri monawi-

leoba miiRos axali partiis

dafiZnebasa da saqmianobaSi. es

kidev ufro gvimyarebs mosaz-

rebas, rom „qarTuli ocneba“

Zalian Zlier politikur su-

bieqtad yalibdeba, romelsac

ZaluZs dasaxuli miznebis

miRweva.

_ ra mdgomareobaa regio-

nebSi? rodis gaixsneba ofise-

bi?

_ 5 martidan daiwyo re-

gionebSi ofisebis gaxsna po-

litikuri koaliciis lidere-

bis monawileobiT. yvela regi-

onSi, yvela raionul centrSi

gaixsneba ”qarTuli ocnebis”

ofisi. ofisi ukve gaixsna

xobsa da qobuleTSi. am dRe-

ebSi gaixsneba ofisebi mcxeTa-

Si, sagarejoSi, TianeTSi....

martis bolosaTvis saqarTve-

los yvela raionSi „qarTuli

ocnebis“ ofisi sruli dat-

virTviT imuSavebs.

amis paralelurad TiToe-

ul sofelSi, TiToeul adami-

anTan mivalT, uSualod am

adamianebisagan gavigebT yvela

im problemas, rac maT daug-

rovdaT da am problemebis

mogvarebis gzebs avsaxavT sa-

arCevno blokis programaSi.

_ ramdenad aris solomon

qimeriZis gardacvalebis faq-

ti gamafrTxilebeli niSani

regionis mosaxleobisaTvis?

Zalian vwuxvar, rom gamW-

virvale SenobebSi igive xde-

ba, rac „gaumWvirvale“ poli-

ciis SenobaSi xdeboda. es

tragediaa, rodesac sruliad

janmrTeli adamiani, romelic

mihyavT policiaSi gaurkveve-

li statusiT, gardacvlils

miasveneben Sin, magram aranak-

lebi tragediaa, is, rac mas

mohyva _ ojaxi ise daaSines,

rom isini uars amboben damo-

ukidebeli eqspertizis Cata-

rebaze. qimeriZis ojaxi alya-

Semortymuli iyo, qarTuli

sazogadoebisaTvis cnobili,

sayvareli adamianebi panaSvid-

ze ar SeuSves. ra samarTleb-

riv garemoSi, ra qarTul

tradiciaSi jdeba es - ar vi-

ci

_ Tumca sazogadoebis mx-

ridan am faqts sayovelTao

SeSfoTeba ar mohyolia....

_ sazogadoeba informaci-

ul vakuumSia, gazeTs yvela

ver kiTxulobs - Zviria, miT

umetes - regionebSi. 3 nacio-

naluri arxi, romelic ma-

uwyeblobs qveynis teritori-

aze, blokavs informacias an

informacias mxolod garkveu-

li rakursiT awvdian sazoga-

doebas. am faqtis Sesaxeb ase-

Ti tipis informacia gavr-

celda, rom „gardacvlili qi-

meriZis panaSvidze politiku-

ri partiis warmomadgenlebi

Cavidnen“, realurad ki cnobi-

li, yvelasaTvis pativsacemi

adamianebi policiis SenobaSi

tragikulad gardacvlili

adamianis axloblebisaTvis

samZimris gamosaxatavad mivid-

nen. da sTxoves ojaxs, rom

moeTxovaT damoukidebeli eqs-

pertizis Catareba, raTa gada-

varCinoT sxva adamianebis si-

cocxle, romlebic ar arian

dazRveulni, rom policiis

gamWvirvale Senobebidan co-

cxlebi, uvnebelni gamovlen.

adamiani gaurkvevel viTareba-

Si gardaicvala. rogor war-

mogidgeniaT, ramdeni kilog-

ramic unda iyos adamiani, Se-

saZlebeli, rom dabarbacdes

da kibidan moajirs gadaevlos

da ise gadmovardes?!

_ rogor apirebs koalicia

analogiuri Zaladobisagan

adamianebis dacvas?

_ raTa adamiani iyos da-

culi, man unda icodes, ra

xdeba qveyanaSi. Zalian marti-

via adamianebiT manipulireba,

roca maT ar aqvT informacia.

Cven dawyebuli gvaqvs gazeTis

gamocema, romelic vrceldeba

mTel saqarTveloSi. Seiqmneba

alternatiuli sainformacio

wyaroebi, male amoqmeddeba

televizia da imedi maqvs, mo-

saxleoba miiRebs obieqtur

informacias, gavrcelda in-

formacia, rom gadaiWreba ”ma-

estros” satelitur mauwyeb-

lobaze dabrunebis problema.

es yvelaferi informaciul

vakuums gaarRvevs.

yvelaze mniSvnelovani ma-

inc Sexvedrebia amomrCevleb-

Tan, romelsac „Rrublis“ anu

mxolod informaciis Sesrut-

vis funqcia ar eqneba, Cven Ti-

Toeul adamians mivawvdiT

informacias, Tu ra xdeba qve-

yanaSi, gavuziarebT umZimesi

viTarebidan qveynis gamoyvanis

Cveneul xedvebs. adamianebs

unda hqondeT da eqnebaT is

SegrZneba, rom maT daicavs sa-

zogadoeba, qarTuli saxelm-

wifo. mTeli eris mobilizeba

unda moxdes, raTa erTxel da

samudamod daiZlios SiSi,

uimedoba, ekonomikuri sidux-

Wire...

_ biZina ivaniSvilis moqa-

laqeobis sakiTxi 14 Teber-

vals unda gadawyvetiliyo, am

TariRma aprilis dasawyisis-

Tvis gadaiwia. im logikis

gaTvaliswinebiT, romlis sa-

fuZvelzec batoni biZina aRar

aris saqarTvelos moqalaqe,

Tu arsebobs garantia, rom

is namdvilad miiRebs moqala-

qeobas?

_ xelisuflebis mxridan

kanonebis Wra-kerva saintere-

so procesSi Sevida. erT dRe-

Si cvlian kanonebs, miRebuli

kanonebidanac mxolod im ka-

nonebs asruleben, rac Tavad

surT. me iuridiul detaleb-

Si ver Seval, amas gacilebiT

ukeT akeTeben Cemi kolega

iuristebi, romlebic sainici-

ativo jgufis wevrebi arian,

am sakiTxze iuristTa jgufi

muSaobs. magram msurs dagarw-

munoT, rom aranairi legalu-

ri safuZveli ar arsebobs,

rom biZina ivaniSvili ar gax-

des saqarTvelos moqalaqe.

saqarTvelos konstituciis,

yvela kanonis da saerTaSori-

so konvenciis sruli dacviT,

is aucileblad gaxdeba saqar-

Tvelos moqalaqe.

nino fircxalava

nodar xaduri:nodar xaduri:

adamianebs molodiniar unda gavucruoT

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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interviu politolog

hamlet WipaSvilTan

_ batono hamlet, ramdenime dRis

ukan saakaSvili parlamentis winaSe

angariSiT gamovida. kvlav negatiu-

rad SeafasebT mis gamosvlas?

_ sanam SekiTxvas pasuxs gavcem-

de, erTi ambavi minda mogiyveT. mo-

gexsenebaT, am dReebSi valeri gel-

baxians deda gardaecvala. Cven erT

xans erTad viyaviT aslan abaSiZes-

Tan da mindoda am kacisTvis mimesam-

Zimrebina depeSiT. mivedi fostaSi.

meubnebian, dRes SabaTia, orSabaTam-

de ver dagexmarebiT, radgan saCxe-

ris fosta SabaTs ar muSaobs, arc

Cven vmuSaobT SabaT-kviras. arada,

micvalebuls kviras asaflaveben. ra

vqnaT? saqarTvelo evropul stan-

dartebs miuaxlovda, magram fosta

jer ar muSaobs. axla, naxeT, fos-

ta ranair oTaxSi mdebareobs _

iataki ayrili, bJutavs Zveli `pli-

ta~, romelzec sami asakovani qalba-

toni kvercxs xarSavs, imisTvis, rom

raRac gagirkvion, Zvel, gayviTle-

bul Jurnals nela furclaven,

gverdebi rom ar daexes. rom gada-

furclos, fostis TanamSromeli

TiTze ifurTxebs, gverds gadaSlis,

eZebs, mainc verafers poulobs.

Tqven metyviT, daukavSirdi in-

ternetiT _ saCxereSi ramden ojaxs

aqvs interneti, miTxariT. mesiji ga-

vugzavno adamians dedis gardacva-

lebis mwuxarebas viziareb-Tqo?

saakaSvili ki gveubneba _ axla

iusticiis saxls gavxsni, gadmox-

valT manqanidan da erTi fanjris

principiT mogemsaxurebiano.

saqme imaSia, rom gelbaxiani da

misnairebi rom ar yofiliyo aslan

abaSiZis garemocvaSi axla aslani

prezidenti iqneboda. erTi sityviT,

gelbaxiani ki gaaTavisufla xeli-

suflebam giraos sanacvlod, magram

sasamarTlo winaa, ara mgonia, yvela-

ferma umtkivneulod Caiaros.

axla rac Seexeba Tqvens SekiTx-

vas. miSam pirdapir dagvasaqma Tavze.

jondis ki ara, saqarTvelos daas-

aqma. roca ambobs, rom mandaturebi

wagiyvanen, talaxi gamzadebulia,

kargad dagzelen da gagivlis fanta-

ziebi, es niSnavs, rom yvelas dedebs

gitirebTo. magram ra Tqva iseTi

jondim, rasac ar laparakobs mTeli

saqarTvelo. saakaSvilis deda aris

yvelgan, sadac umaRlesi saswavle-

belia, mamamisis ambebi yvelam icis.

misi Zmebi rom yvela saxis biznesSi

arian, esec araa axali ambavi. Sar-

San amis Tqma CaxvaZem daapira, mag-

ram, rogorc ki saakaSvili Seepasu-

xa, SiSisgan Caisvara da aqamde da-

dis Casvrili. axla ki tribunaze

ukve `CadJmuli~ avida. erTi sity-

viT, miSam yvelas gviTxra: Cemi ..-e

kitria, modiT, WameT. yvela fexebze

mkidixarTo.

_ man ilaparaka...

_ moica. rac man ilaparaka, yve-

laferi iyo abdaubda, gaugebari,

imitom rom, TviTonve ar icoda, ras

laparakobda. tribunaze aqeT-iqiT

Tavs imitomac iqnevda, win dafebi

aqvs da imaze kiTxulobs. TviTon

azrzec araa arafris. wesiT, aseT

situaciaSi, roca politikuri mo-

winaaRmdege gamouCnda biZina ivaniS-

vilis saxiT, mas sul sxva raRace-

bi unda elaparaka. roca qveyanaSi

katastrofulad moimata gadasaxa-

debma, roca gauaresda cxovrebis

done, aq raRaa Tavmosawonebeli.

_ darbazSi isxdnen elCebi.

sxdomas, albaT, usmendnen daintere-

sebuli pirebi dasavleTSi. Tqveni

azriT, ratom uWeren mxars, roca

demokratia saqarTveloSi iluziaa,

xolo saakaSvili sruliad araprog-

nozirebadi?

_ aSS-ma Tavis droze SeimuSava

gegma ruseTis winaaRmdeg. amerikuli

gegmis nawili iyo postsabWoTa qvey-

nebSi protestis muxtis gaRviveba.

CeCneTis ambebic aSS-is provocire-

buli iyo. dResac dabejiTebiT acxa-

deben, rom ruseTi daiSleba da a.S.

aSS-is yofili saxelmwifo mdi-

vani madlen olbraiti rom ambobs,

msoflioSi arakanonzomiereba didia,

radgan ruseTi flobs wiaRiseul

simdidreebs, xolo Cven ara, es aC-

venebs maT saxes da interesebs.

me kidev erTxel vacxa-deb, vinc saakaSvili xeli-suflebaSi moiyvana, vincmxari dauWira am reJimisgabatonebas, is aris sa-qarTvelos pirdapiri mt-eri.

ratom? imitom rom, rogorc ki

saakaSvils Tundac erTi saaTiT dae-

laparakebi, maSinve mixvdebi, rom es

kaci aris aranormaluri. xom gax-

sovT, kondoliza raisma Tqva, Cven

mxars vuWerdiT mis gaprezidenteba-

so. es ki niSnavs, rom sul ar ain-

teresebs, ra moxdeba aq. saqarTve-

loSi demokratia da misTanebi araa

maTTvis mTavari, es aris measexaris-

xovani. maTTvis mTavaria, rom hyavT

yurmoWrili mona, romelic nebismi-

er davalebas asrulebs.

wesiT, im sityvebisTvis, rac man

jondi baRaTurias uTxra, sakmarisi

iqneboda ucxoeTs saakaSvilisTvis

sruli blokada gamoecxadebina, mag-

ram ase ar xdeba, es risi niSanicaa,

naTelia _ is aris yvelafris Sems-

rulebeli, rasac moisurvebs aSS-i.

araa gamoricxuli, rom irans Se-

utios israelma da aSS-ma da rodis

dasWirdeba saqarTvelo maT, amas

uaxlesi periodi gadawyvets. marTa-

lia, obamam ki mouwoda israels,

rom ar daartyas irans, magram aSS-

i ver aitans iranis birTvuli Seia-

raRebis gaaZlierebas SemdgomSi.

axla is vTqvaT, raSi sWirdeba sa-

qarTvelos jarebis gagzavna avRaneT-

Si. Cvens qveyanas naklebad aintere-

sebs, magram aSS-i zedmetad dainte-

resebulia amiT. mas surs kanonieri

gaxados Tavisi qmedeba da rac SeiZ-

leba meti qveyana CaiTrios am uazro

xocva-JletaSi. saakaSvili rom gvim-

tkicebs, TiTqos avRaneTis misia aris

saSviliSvilo saqme da saqarTvelo

avRaneTSi ibrZvis terorizmis wina-

aRmdeg, iq Tvlian, rom saqarTvelo

iseTive okupantia, rogorc aSS-i. sa-

qarTvelo, romelic TviTon aris

okupirebuli da acxadebs, rom misi

teritoriebi dapyrobilia, TviTon

gamodis sxva qveynis dampyroblad.

_ rogorc Cans, saakaSvili dava-

lebebis iseTi kargi Semsrulebelia,

rom aSS-ii mas amjeradac ar gaime-

tebs da kvlav daexmareba darCes xe-

lisuflebaSi. ise, rogorc 2008

wels arCevnebis Sedegebis gamocxa-

debamde buSma miuloca gapreziden-

teba. albaT, axlac imedi aqvs da

amitomac apirebs lazikis mSeneblo-

baSi monawileobas, xelisuflebaSi

kvlav darCenas.

_ opoziciam saakaSvil-obamas

Sexvedris Semdeg ganacxada, rom mi-

Sa raRac kmayofili saxiT ar iyu-

reboda. etyoba, aSS-ma mas yuri

auwiao. magram mas Semdeg, rac miSa

amerikidan dabrunda, akeTebs iseT

gancxadebebs da ise moqmedebs, rom

ar rCeba STabeWdileba misTvis vin-

mes odnav gadakruli sityva eTqvas,

an kategoriulad moeTxovaT misi

wasvla.

_ kategoriulobis ufleba aqvT?

_ ra Tqma unda, 2003 wlis ar-

Cevnebamde beikeri ar iyo Camosuli

da ar uTxra SevardnaZes _ droa,

pensiaze waxvide da memuarebi we-

roo? saakaSvilisTvis msgavsi ara-

vis araferi ukadrebia. obamam rac

uTxra, es iyo qebaTa-qeba.

saakaSvili moswondabuSis administracias, mo-swons obamas administra-ciasac.

_ ese igi, saSveli araa?

_ amerikidan ra saSvels eliT,

ver gamigia. xom giTxraT saakaSvil-

mac gudiani kaci ar Camsvams gudaSi

da arsadac ar wamiyvans, amis imedi

nu geqnebaTo?!

_ arCevnebis gziT mis gadayenebas

ver movaxerxebT?

_ arCevnebis gziT misi Secvla

ver moxdeba. me Zalian mikvirs bato-

ni biZina ivaniSvilis, roca amas la-

xmamaRla vacxadeb:arCevnebis gziT am xelisuflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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7saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

parakobs, magram, etyoba, garemocva afiqrebi-

nebs ase, romelic, simarTle unda vTqva, saa-

kaSvilis ganayofebi arian.

roca ivaniSvili ambobs, rom arCevnebSi ga-

imarjvebs da moipovebs xmaTa or mesameds, ro-

gor apirebs amas? xelisuflebas udidesi re-

sursi aqvs _ municipaluri organizaciebidan,

araqarTveli mosaxleobisgan, ucxoeTSi

mcxovrebi qarTvelebi, am xalxs paata davi-

Taia da misi axali uwyeba xelmZRvanelobs.

kidev erTi ram SeuZlebelia ar aRiniSnos:

ivaniSvilis garemocvidan acxadeben., rom iqne-

ba sayovelTao amnistia da ar daisjeba wina

xelisuflebis damnaSaveebi. es mosaxleobaSi

imedgacruebas da nihilizms aZlierebs da ar-

CevnebSi xmebis mopovebis Sansebs amcirebs.

_ aba, ra unda gavakeToT?

_ kidev vimeoreb: arCevnebis gziT am xeli-

suflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia.

_ ucxoeTi zurgs Segvaqcevs Tu Cven ar-

Cevnebis gzas ugulebelvyofT.

_ ar unda mivaqcioT yuradReba, vin ras

ityvis. mTavaria, Cveni qveyana movawyoT ise,

rogorc CvenTvis iqneba ukeTesi. sxvaTa So-

ris, ase iyo gamsaxurdias dros. aravis ara-

visTvis ar miuqcevia yuradReba, gaakeTes is,

rac umravlesobas surda.

_ ruseTis prezidenti kvlav putini gaxda.

saakaSvilma savizo reJimis gamartivebis sa-

kiTxi dasva ramdenime dRis win. xom ar iyo

es raRacnairi winaTgrZnoba da survili, rom

axla saakaSvili putins miucocdes?

_ Tu vinme ebrZoda putins aSS-Si, maTi

survilis mixedviT ebrZoda, lanZRavda da

TaTxavda saakaSvili. misi yvela gamosvla am

paTosiT iyo gajerebuli.

is iniciativa, rac saakaSvilma gaaJRera,

pirdapir ruseTis xelisuflebis gasaSaveblad

iyo mimarTuli. marTalia, ruseTis sagareo

saqmeTa saministro mowonebiT Sexvda am wina-

dadebas, magram amaTgan sapasuxod miiRes

kvlav ultimatumi _ gaiyvanon jarebi da a.S.

momwons saakaSvili Tu ara, miuxedavad yve-

lafrisa, unda vTqva, rom es iyo dadebiTi na-

biji. saqme imaSia, rom saqarTvelos ar unda

gaewyvita diplomatiuri urTierTobebi ru-

seTTan, umjobesi iyo ruseTTan pirdapiri

diplomatiuri kontaqtebi yofiliyo. urTier-

Tobebi kuluarul doneze aris, magram ukeTe-

si iqneboda es kontaqtebi Ria da sajaro Tu

iqneboda.

is ambavi, rom axla ruseTma gaiyvanos ja-

rebi afxazeTidan da cxinvalis regionidan, es

aris iluzia. ruseTi Tavis gadafurTxebuls

ar alokavs da problemebi erTi xelis dakv-

riT ar gadawydeba.

iranda kalandaZe

saakaSvilma xelisuflebaSi

mosvlisTanave daiwyo dausaqmebel

adamianebze zrunva _ pirvel rig-

Si, dasaqmebis saagento gaauqma.

saqarTvelo msoflioSi erTader-

Ti qveyanaa, sadac `vardebis revo-

luciis~ Semdeg dasaqmebis saagen-

to aRar arsebobs. arada, mTels

msoflioSi miCneulia, rom siRa-

ribis daZlevis mTavari saSualeba

swored dasaqmebaa, rasac sxva al-

ternativa ar gaaCnia. CvenTan ki

yvelaferi piriqiT moxda, siRari-

bis dasaZlevad prezidentma dasaq-

mebis centrebi moSala da siRari-

bis daZlevis programiT qveyanaSi

am senis damarcxeba gadawyvita.

Tumca, siRaribis programiT mivi-

ReT is, rom umuSevarTa dasaqmeba

saerTod aRmoifxvra dRis wesri-

gidan.

axalgazrda `reformatorebis~

mosvlamde, saqarTveloSi dasaqme-

bis samsaxuris saSualebiT weli-

wadSi 5 aTasi adamiani saqmdebo-

da, gaicemoda kreditebic, rac

mcire mewarmeobis ganviTarebas

uwyobda xels. swored es miiCnia

saakaSvilis xelisuflebam arae-

feqturad da samagierod Ratake-

bis momravlebis programa Semogv-

Tavaza. dasaqmebis samsaxurebis

muSaoba araefeqturi iyoo _

brZana prezidentma da umal mili-

oni samuSao adgilis Seqmnis Ta-

obaze auwya mosaxleobas. mas mere

mravali weli gavida da dRes mi-

lioni samuSao adgilis nacvlad,

man milionze meti Rataki da am-

denive sazRvargareT, ucxo tome-

bisTvis Ramis qoTnebis mzidavi

qarTvelebi Seqmna. saakaSvils

msoflio bankis mxolod misTvis

sasargeblo monacemebis gamomzeu-

reba sCvevia da, bunebrivia mosax-

leobisTvis ar uTqvams ra weria

msoflio bankis erT-erT daskvna-

Si: ` umuSevroba da sakmarisad

kargad anazRaurebadi samsaxure-

bis nakleboba, im ZiriTad mizezs

warmoadgens, ris gamoc saqarTve-

loSi mcxovrebi ojaxebi siRari-

bes Tavs ver aRweven~. es daskvna

daaxloebiT 6 wlis win gakeTda,

mas Semdeg mdgomareoba katastro-

fulad gauaresda da, albaT Zne-

li misaxvedri ar iqneba ras SeiZ-

leba fiqrobdes msoflio banki

saqarTveloSi dRes arsebul si-

tuaciaze. swored ami-

tomaa, rom dRes sa-

qarTveloSi siRaribis

daZlevis programiT

miviReT is, rom mosax-

leobis saSualo fena

Raribad gadaiqca, xo-

lo Raribebi Ratakad.

paradoqsia, magram dR-

es qarTveli xalxi

Ratakad aRiarebas iT-

xovs da aba gabedos

socialuri dacvis sa-

agentom da uari uTx-

ras Rarib-Ratakis statusze(!)

qarTvelebs prezidentma saerTod

gadaaCvia muSaoba. anda vis endo-

meba muSaoba, roca prezidentma

xalxis dasasaqmeblad xan sam Tvi-

ani programa moigona da winasaar-

Cevnod dasaqmebul xalxs TveSi

200 lari gadauxada. televizii-

Tac gvaCvenes, rogor miiyvana pre-

zidentma `dasaqmebulebis~ erTi

avtobusi qarxanaSi, Tumca es mu-

Sebi iseve dasaqmdnen, rogorc,

dRes gaxsnil erT-erT saavadmyo-

foSi Sarval-kostumSi gamopran-

Wuli `pacienti~ mkurnalobda. ma-

Sin, mTavrobam Tavad aRiara, rom

200 lariani dasaqmeba efeqturi

ar iyo da igi gazafxuls ver mo-

iyvanda. amitom, maleve preziden-

ti axali iniciativiT, axali da-

pirebiT gamovida _ siRaribes Se-

vebrZolebi da 50 dReSi amogasun-

TqebTo, Tumca am, dapirebamac Ca-

iluris wyali dalia da amosunT-

qvas viRa Civis, Tu gadavxedavT,

rogor zrunavs prezidenti dau-

saqmebeli adamianebis jibeebze, Se-

iZleba male CasunTqvac fasianad

gveqces. umuSevrobis done araTu

ar Semcirebula, dasawyisSi mo-

gaxseneT, rom gaizarda kidec, da

amis paralelurad gaizarda tran-

sportis safasuri, gazis gadasa-

xadi, deni mieba nagavs da a.S. ra

qnan arCevnebic omia, oms ki didi

kuWi aqvs da iyideba yvelaferi

yvelaze, kanoniT Tu ukanonod.

mokled, uxvad darigebuli 50

dRiani programac _ gazrdili

pensiebi, dasaqmebuli mosaxleoba,

sxvadasxva saxis socialuri dax-

marebebi, kvlav dapirebad darCa.

50 dRiani proeqtidan realobamde

arcerTi nabiji ar gadadgmula.

maSindeli jandacvis ministrisgan

50 dRiani programis farglebSi

uamravi dagegmili iniciativa mo-

vismine, dRes yvela maTgani qa-

Raldze dagegmilad darCa.

amxela Sesavali imisTvis dam-

Wirda, rom mosaxleobisaTvis Se-

mexsenebina ra kargad, ra efeqtu-

rad axerxebs mTavroba milioni

samuSao adgilis Seqmnis, 50 dRi-

ani dasaqmebis programis, sam Tvi-

ani 200-200 lariani `samuSao ad-

gilebis~ da a.S. dagegmvas. dageg-

milis ganxorcieleba ki, rogorc

sCans maT gegmebSi ar Sedis.

axla 2012 samuSao adgilebze

zrunvis dawyebidan merve weliwa-

dia da amjerad prezidenti par-

lamentis tribunidan kvlav dageg-

mil gegmebze sasaubrod gamovida.

es weliwadi, man jandacvis xel-

misawvdomobis gadamwyvet da dama-

tebiTi samuSao adgilebis wlad

daasaxela. ki magram am wlebis

manZilze samuSao adgilebi saer-

Tod ar Seqmnila, Tu ra Tqma un-

da prezidenti sazRvargareT Ra-

mis qoTnebis mzidav qarTvelebis

dasaqmebas Tavis miRwevad ar miiC-

nevs, da aba, risi damatebiTi ad-

gilebi iqmneba, cota gaugebaria.

damatebiTi samuSao adgilebis

Seqmnis Sesaxeb gancxadeba rom ga-

vigone, damainteresa amjerad ras

gvTavazobda prezidenti da mouT-

menlad davelode mis axal pro-

eqts. amjerad, dasaqmebis axali

formula aseTia _ Turme ramdeni

milioni turistic Camova saqarT-

veloSi, prezidenti imden 15 aTas

adamians daasaqmebs. afiorac amas

hqvia Tu hqvia. ratom? _ axlave

mogaxsenebT, eqspertebis TqmiT,

dRes saqarTveloSi 800 aTasi ka-

cia dausaqmebeli. Tu elementa-

rul ariTmetikas moviSveliebT

gamodis, rom saqarTveloSi yvela

maTgani rom dasaqmdes 35 milioni

turisti unda miviRoT, rac war-

moudgeneli absurdia. ase, rom

prezidentma isev mogvatyua, am

`gadamwyvet~ welsac, rogorc

sCans iseve Seiqmneba samuSao ad-

gilebi, rogorc am rva wlis man-

Zilze iyo. Tumca, raoden gasakvi-

ric ar unda iyos, sazogadoeba ma-

inc ar iRleba prezidentis tyui-

lebis mosmeniT. mgoni dadga dro

yurebi gamovifxikoT, Tvalebi

farTod gavaxiloT da nu davelo-

debiT im 35 milion turists, ro-

melzec Turme Cveni dasaqmebis be-

dia Camokidebuli.

Tamar SveliZe

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8 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

laSa nacvliSvili:rodesac irina enuqiZe muxl-

modrekili elodeboda qarTu-

li sazogadoebis inertul na-

wils, gamodiT da daicaviT

Tqveni Svilebio, 2006 wlis

Semdeg saxelmwifos mier mora-

lurad Tu fizikurad dazara-

lebuli yvela adamiani aris

msxverpli sakuTari inertu-

lobisa. aq Zalian mniSvnelova-

nia, ras Cadis saxelmwifo, ro-

gor reagirebs is msgavs faqt-

ze, arsebobs Tu ara saxeli-

suflebo vertikalSi arajansa-

Ri, aramed racionaluri sawyi-

sebi. yvela qveyanaSi Cadis da-

naSauls policieli, magram

sistemis sijansaRis indikato-

ria ara policieli, aramed Ta-

vad sistema, romelic reagi-

rebs am danaSaulze da ganagdes

mas. Cven kargad viciT, ra mox-

da buta robaqiZis SemTxvevaSi.

imis gamo rom 23 noembers, am

sakralur dRes, ar Selaxuli-

yo policiis mundiris Rirseba

udanaSaulo adamianis sisxliT,

maT gaTxvares mTeli xelisuf-

leba. qimeriZis SemTxvevaSic

igive ganmeorda. Cven visac gar-

kveuli pasuxismgebloba gvaqvs

Cveni Svilebis winaSe, araTu

legitimuri ufleba gvaqvs xma

amoviRoT yovelive amis winaaR-

mdeg, aramed varT valdebulni

da dagvwyevlis Cveni STamomav-

loba Tu amaze gavCerdiT.

dRes, samwuxarod, saqarT-

velos xelisuflebaSi waxali-

sebulia araadamianoba, Tu Cven,

sazogadoebas gvaqvs TviTgadar-

Cenis fiziologiuri instinq-

ti, maSin ar unda gavCerdeT,

radgan es ambavi ar damTavrde-

ba. aRebulia yvelaze mTavari

mijna, xelisuflebam daiwyo

xalxis xocva. miuxedavad oja-

xis poziciisa, Cven ar unda

gavCumdeT. arc erTi Jurnalis-

ti, moqalaqe, sazogado Tu po-

litikuri moRvawe ar unda mo-

eqces im stigmis qveS, rom

TiTqos viRac politikur di-

videndebs eZebs sxvis ubedure-

baze. sisxlze ar arsebobs

araviTari dividendebi, sisxl-

ze arsebobs mxolod danaSau-

li da pasuxismgebloba; da pa-

suxismgebloba ormxrivi - sis-

xlze pasuxismgebeli aris xe-

lisufleba, magram asjer me-

tad pasuxismgebelia sazogado-

eba, romelic dauSvebs dausje-

lobas.

yvela mmarTveli, romlic

cdilobs raRaciT daasabuTos

Tavisi Seucvleloba, is Zali-

an cudi azrisaa sakuTar ersa

da gundze. radgan arsebobs sa-

zogadoebriv-politikuri higi-

ena: aranairi mniSvneloba ara

aqvs kosmetologiur Carevebs

Tu adamiani sacvals ar icv-

lis. sazogadoebas Tu ar aqvs

xelisuflebis cvalebadobis

meqanizmi, romlic aris sijan-

saRis, higienis mTavari atribu-

ti, es Zalian didi problemaa.

xelisufleba umtkivneulod

icvleba maSin Tu sazogadoe-

ba Tavisufalia. Tu xelisuf-

leba warmovidgenT rogorc

mesias, romelmac unda gadag-

varCinos da dagvapuros, ma-

Sin misi gamocvla Zalian

gagviZneldeba.

putinis xelisuflebaSi

darCena aris mocemuloba,

romelsac Cven ver SevcvliT.

moklevadian perspeqtivaSi,

saakaSvilisa da nacmoZraobi-

saTvis es faqti aris erT-er-

Ti saukeTeso gamosavali,

eleqtoratisaTvis sakuTari

arsebobis dasasabuTeblad.

radgan qarTul cnobierebaSi

putini aris mtris idealuri

saxe da misi gamoZerwva aRar

sWirdebaT. Tumca grZelvadian

perspeqtivaSi putinma Tavad

unda daasabuTos Tavisi arse-

bobac. anu man Tavisi ritori-

kuli frazebi multieTnikuri

imperiuli saxelmwifos Sesa-

xeb qmedebiT unda daasabuTos,

rac Zalian gaWirdeba.

gubaz sanikiZe: rac See-xeba saxelisuflebo cvlile-

bebze sagareo faqtorebs, ker-

Zod aSS-iranis samxedro ope-

raciebis gavlenas, iranis kri-

zisi arCevmebamde iqneba,

daiwyeba gazafxulze da

zafxuli iqneba Zalian

mZime. amitom saparlamen-

to arCevnebamde iq raRa-

ceebi gairkveva. amis ram-

denime varianti arsebobs.

aq gadamwyvet rols Tama-

Sobs Tu rogor moiqceva

irani. aq marto amerikis

interesebi rom iyos, uf-

ro gaamartivebda saqmes.

aq CarTulia israelis

usafrTxoebis interesebi,

romelsac Cvengan gansxva-

vebiT prevenciis maRali

xarisxi aqvs. garda israe-

lisa, aq Zalian bevri geopoli-

tikuri, religiuri da kultu-

ruli kvanZia Tavmoyrili. igu-

lisxmeba axlo aRmosavleTis

sakiTxi da ruseTis CarTulo-

ba. irani uZvelesi imperiuli

saxlmwifoa, udidesi tradici-

ebis mqone da maTac kargad es-

miT, rom Tu konfrontacia wa-

vida, Sedegebi umZimesi iqneba.

ra Tqma unda, amerika Seec-

deba safrTxeebis minimalizaci-

as da am niadagze mas eqneba ru-

seTTan kontaqti, Tumca Cven

mainc ar viciT, ruseTi ra ga-

dawyvetilebas miiRebs. iranis

sakiTxe calke, konteqstidan

amogdebuli ar ganixileba

TviT ruseTisTvisac. irani

aris erTi didi procesis nawi-

li, romelsac hqvia ruseTis

gamosvla axlo aRmosavleTi-

dan. rigSi dgas siria, rome-

lic ruseTis sayrdeni qveyanaa.

gamodis informaciebi, rom sam-

xedro specialistebi Caiyvanes

iq rusebma, radgan sakmaod de-

moralizebulia samTavrobo Za-

lebi siriaSi da maT gadawyo-

baze moqmedeben. aseve gaCnda in-

formacia, rom dasavleTis

qveynebidan iq arian Sesuli

samxedro specialistebi opo-

ziciis dasaxmareblad. ase rom

irans, rogorc calke aRebul

problemas, ver ganvixilavT.

miT ufro, rom iran-erayis

omis dro siria iyo er-

TaderTi arabuli sa-

xelmwifo, romelic

irans uWerda mxars.

ruseTs xelSekrulebis

Tanaxmad eZleva ufleba

CrdiloeT irani daika-

vos da iq samxedro Zale-

bi Seiyvanos. aq isev

Cndeba varaudi, ramdenad

gabedavs ruseTi konfrota-

ciaze wasvlas. cudi magaliTi

CvenTvis aris 2008 weli, ro-

ca ruseTma gabeda da wavida

konfrotaciaze, daikava gori,

rac ar iyo SemTxveviTi ambavi.

amiT rusebma aCvenes mTel

msoflios, rom maT SeuZliaT

Zalian seriozuli dartyma mi-

ayenon energetikul sakomunika-

cio saSualebebs - gazsadens,

navTobsadens da a.S.

ase rom, rogor moiqceva

ruseTi, Zalian Zneli saTqme-

lia. ras daTmobs da ras mo-

iTxovs am daTmobis sanacvlod!

ra Tqma unda, amerikelebi Se-

ecdebian winaswar yvelaferi

gaarkvion rusebTan, magram ra

nabijs gadadgams ruseTi, wi-

naswar veravin gaTvlis, swo-

red amazea damyarebuli puti-

nis sagareo politika. ruse-

TisTvis iranis marcxi da izo-

lacia Zalian mZimea. rusul

politikur elitaSi gabatone-

bulia azri, rom iranis Semdeg

aucileblad dageba ruseTis

jeri; ara samxedro operacie-

biT, aramed ekonomikuri mo-

xuTviT. ruseTs aqvs sakmao

berketebi, iTamaSos msoflio

arenaze - es aris energetiku-

li wyaroebi. aseve Zalian rTu-

li gasaTvlelia, rogor moiq-

ceva ruseTi saqarTvelosTan

mimarTebaSi, radgan Cven dabal

Robed viTvlebiT. arsebobs

amis subieqturi mizezebi, rad-

gan isini Tvlian, rom saqarT-

velo unda gadaylapon auci-

leblad. da amas xels uwyobs

Cveni susti xelisufleba. ru-

seTi SeiZleba sxva mizezebiT

SemoiWras saqarTveloSi, aq

igulisxmeba konfliqtis pro-

vocireba samxreT oseTSi, rad-

gan afxazebi gacilebiT damou-

kidebel politikas atareben,

vidre samxreT osebi. aris imis

saSiSroebac, rom qveynis Sig-

niT destabilizaciis provoci-

reba moxdes xelisuflebis mi-

er. radgan xelisufleba Tu

Seatyobs, rom arCevnebs agebs,

yvelaferze wava. rac ar unda

yoCaRad eWiros Tavi saakaS-

vils, Tumca ufro komikuri

iyo misi polemika jondi baRa-

TuriasTan, rac amtkicebs, rom

nacmoZraoba Zalian aradamaje-

reblad grZnobs Tavs. da kar-

gad viciT, maTi saxiT rogor

adamianebTan gvaqvs saqme. eseni

yvelaferze wamsvlelebi, qvey-

nis daqcevaze wamsvelebi arian.

amitom es amZimebs Cvens mdgo-

mareobas. Cven rom pasuxismgeb-

lobis mqone xelisufleba

gvyavdes, gacilebiT naklebi

problemebi da ufro mwyobri

poziciebi gveqneboda igive ru-

sebTan. Tumca saeqsperto wre-

ebSic gaCnda mosazrebebi, rom,

araa gamoricxuli, rusebs

kurkuri dauwyos saakaSvilma,

Tu ukve dawyebuli ara aqvs.

yovel SemTxvevaSi, putinTan

urTierTobebis mogvarebis

mcdeloba ramdenjerme hqonda.

ase rom, am kacma SeiZleba ub-

ralod, gayidos qveyana.

ara mgonia, saakaSvilma da-

savleTis winaSe Tavisi

Seucvlelobis dasadas-

tureblad gadadgas es na-

biji (saubaria vizebis ga-

uqmebaze), radgan saakaS-

vils da mTel nacmoZrao-

bas dakarguli aqvs rea-

lizmis grZnoba; naciona-

luri arxebic ki gadmos-

cemda saakaSvilis uzrde-

lobas. anu rogor upasu-

xa man jondi baRaTurias

jer gaqceviT, mere dabru-

nebiT da uzrdelobebiT;

qveynis prezidenti ki ara,

rigiTi adamiani ar iqceva

ase. man daadastura erTi

ram, mas Zalian unda da-

savleTs da qveynis mosaxleo-

bas daanaxos, rom is aris sta-

biluribis garantia saqarTve-

loSi da kavkasiis regionSi.

magram Tavisi qceviT yvelas aC-

vena, rom is aris destabiliza-

ciis mTavari faqtori. arc ad-

re gamoirCeoda qceviT, magram

axla saerTod gaWenebuli iyo.

yvelaze cudi diagnozi, rac

SeiZleba politikoss daesvas,

aris araprognozirebadi poli-

tikosis statusi. rac saakaS-

vilis SemTxvevaSi progresire-

badi diagnozia. jondi baRaTu-

rias rom ase pasuxob, Sen war-

moidgine, rogor moiqcevi kri-

zisis dros rusebTan. miT uf-

ro rom Cvenc da sazRvargare-

Tac nanaxi gvaqvs, rogor iqce-

va es xelisufleba krizisis

dros - garbis da imaleba. es

meore seria iyo, maSin rusuli

aviaciis eSinoda, axla jondi-

si eSinia. gaqceva ar aris ada-

mianis Tviseba, ase xifaTs ga-

urbis mxolod cxoveli. saa-

kaSvilma daadastura, rom is

aris Zalian susti, aramdgradi

da aravin ar icis, rogor mo-

iqceva garkveul situaciaSi.

Tumca opozicia ufro susti

da araorganizebuli aRmovCn-

diT mTeli es wlebi. saakaSvi-

li da misi xelisufleba,

igive vano gaRletili

(Tumca vanos sxva Seu-

racxyofebic autania

misasgan gineba da Wiqe-

bis srola da amasac

aitans) aRar aris im

stadiaSi, rogorc `varde-

bis revoluciis~ Semdeg.

axla sxva viTarebaa, igive

demokratiuli revoluciis

proeqti unda damTavrdes;

marTalia, saakaSvili agrZe-

lebs revolucias, mara ase fi-

del kastroc agrZelebs da re-

volucia swored maSin aris

ganwiruli wagebisTvis, roca

igi grZeldeba. saakaSvili Za-

lian mZime mdgomareobaSia. im

ybadaRebul gamosvlaSi man ar

Tqva rom wasvlas apirebs, mag-

ram arc is uTqvams, rom rCeba.

man rom Tqvas, rom premieri ar

iqneba, nacmoZraoba imave saRa-

mos gaqreba da gadneba; es misi

piradi usafrTxoebis sakiTxic

aris, ra eSvelebaT girgvlia-

nis mkvlelebs?! ra eSveleba

sisxliani angariSsworebis mo-

nawileebs, qveynis mZarcvele-

bs?! ra eSveleba wagebul oms

da ekonomikur siduxWires?!

TiTqmis ori milioni Ratakia

qveyanaSi. TviTon ki gaezarda

Semosvlebi, magram ise ara, ro-

gorc Tqva, ra moxda aseTi,

rom saakaSvilebis ojaxis yve-

la wevrs 2003 wlis mere aR-

moaCnda biznesis niWi. martiva-

daa yvelaferi - Zarcvaven qve-

yanas. jondis tyuili ki ar

uTqvams.

rac Seexeba parlamentis

mandaturiT damuqrebas. manda-

turi prezidents ar emorCile-

ba kanoniT. Tu saWiro gaxda,

prezidents unda mokidos qeCo-

Si xeli da gaiyvanos darbazi-

dan. asea es, radgan aRmasrule-

beli xelisuflebis meTaurs

ara aqvs ufrosobis ufleba sa-

kanonmdeblo xelisuflebaze.

wesiT, roca es Tqva preziden-

tma, parlamentis Tavmjdomares

unda moewodebina mandaturebi-

saTvis da gaeTriaT darbazidan.

aris kuluaruli informacia,

rom jondisgan gaqceul saa-

kaSvils uTxres, aSS-s elCi

zis darbazSi da ar SeiZleba

gaqcevao, amitomac dabrunda

igi. sxvaTa Soris, Zalian daT-

rgunuli saxe hqonda aSS-s

elCs. amerikelebi, saerTod, me-

tad realisturad afaseben si-

tuacias.

ras izams saakaSvili CvenT-

vis ar unda iyos mTavari Se-

kiTxva da problema, ras vizamT

Cven, visac es ar mogvwons, esaa

sakiTxavi. me mgonia, rom ufro

mets ar moswons saakaSvili.

Tan is martoa darCenili nac-

moZraobaSi, visac xalxTan Sex-

vedra SeuZlia.

Cveni koaliciis warmatebis

safuZveli aris biZina ivaniSvi-

lis pirovneba plus Zlieri

organizacia. Zalian intesiuri

muSaoba midis organizaciuli

sakiTxebis mosagvareblad, rac

ramdenime kviraSi dasruldeba.

nacmoZaraoba Zalian organize-

buli Zalaa, mas aseve organi-

zebuli ZaliT unda daupiris-

pirde. Cveni koalicia plius

Zlieri organizaciebi _ es

aris gamarjvebis garantia.

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9#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

28 Tebervali, rogorc Ta-

riRi, arafriTaa mniSvnelova-

ni, Tebervlis Cveulebrivi

dRe aris, magram wlevandeli

28 Tebervali mcired, magram

mainc gamorCeuli iyo. parla-

metis deputatebma: batonebma

gia cagareiSvilma da jondi

baRaTuriam gaiTvaliswines

prezident saakaSvilis gasuli

wlis gamowveva `am darbazSi

vinme gamova da ityvis, rom

elituri korufcia arsebob-

so?~ da maSin Tu deputatma

CaxvaZem `Caisvara~, amaT gadmo-

ulages. kidev is iyo mniSvne-

lovani, rom prezidentma Tai-

guli miarTva deputat Ciora

TaqTaqiSvils da Tan gadakoc-

na. danarCeni, iseTive erTfe-

rovani, arafrismTqmeli da

falsificirebuli iyo, ro-

gorc yovelTvis.

es gogo vin aris, ratom

misca miSam yvavilebio? _ ver

icno Ciora TaqTaqiSvili mayu-

rebelma.

oo, maT ar ician, rom kom-

blesi ar iyos, es is gogoa,

romelic `komblebsa Tlis,

WerSi awyobs da vinc Sexvde-

ba, TavSi Cascxobs,~ _ Ciora

yofili `kmarelia.~ hoda, 28

Tebervals iubilari iyo Cio-

ra da tribunisken mimavalma

qalTampyrobelma prezidentma

gzad jentlmenuri Jesti `Caa-

tara~. iubilari romc ar yo-

filiyo, `kmaras~ imxela

wvlili aqvs Setanili saakaS-

vilisa da zogadad, uCinoTa

aRzevebaSi, `kmaras~ memorials

rom ar xsnian velosipedis

`Zeglis~ gverdze, es ufro

unda ukvirdes xalxs.

erTmaneTs waewyo kikviZis

baRSi aqciis monawileTa daka-

veba da parlamentSi Cioras

`dafaseba~, Torem viRas ax-

sovda `vardebis revoluciam-

deli~ ambebi. saqme imaSi gax-

lavT, rom `qarTuli ocnebis~

aqtivistebis dakavebas `kmare-

li~ goga oniani xelmZRvane-

lobda _ laSa CxartiSvilis

yofili TanamebrZoli `kma-

ras~ rigebSi. (ar undoda

`kmaras~ egidiT laSas gare-

mos dacvis ministroba da ra

onianis bralia, Tu samsaxu-

rebrivi movaleobis Sesrule-

bisas masac staca xeli da Se-

ipyro?)

`deda-kmarelis~ _ Tea

TuTberiZis angariSiT, `kmara-

Si~ 3500 wevri iyo, romelTa-

gan, araerTi, dRemde sul `kma-

ra~-`kmaras~ aZaxebinebs mTel

saqarTvelos...

principSi, `ideurad kmare-

lebi~ didian _ patarianad

ramdenni iyvnen, zustad, al-

baT, mxolod TviTon ician,

radgan, uproblemod SeiZleba

erTmaneTTan Serwyma `Tavisuf-

lebis institutisa~ da `kma-

rasi~. maT Soris asakobrivi

sxvaoba iyo mxolod, isic ar-

cTu TvalSisacemi. `kmaras~ aq-

tiurobis zeobisas, simarTle

rom iTqvas, `patarebSi~ Tea

TuTberiZe iyo orTlqmavali,

gamwevi Zala, magram xom iyo

Semadgenlobac, _ hoda, vinc

`naRdi kmareli~ iyo, arc ar-

sad wasula, ager arian bato-

no!

sulo da gulo, Tavdacvis

ministri baCo axalaia; Tavdac-

vis saministros Sesyidvebis

departamentis ufrosi revaz

WarbaZe; Sinagan saqmeTa sami-

nistros administraciis uf-

rosi SoTa xizaniSvili; imere-

Tis gubernatori laSa maqaca-

ria; gldani-naZaladevis poli-

ciis ufrosi goga oniani; par-

lamentis sagareo urTierToba-

Ta komitetis Tavmjdomare aka-

ki minaSvili; misi moadgile

giorgi kandelaki da rom ar

dagvaviwydes, an ar gamogvrCes

_ Ciora TaqTaqiSvili; aseve

maTi `moZRvari~, `kmaras~ ko-

ordinatori gigi ugulava da

`kmaras goni~ giga bokeria. es

is `kmarelebia~, romlebic

dRes Tanamdebobebze arian, To-

rem 3500 adamianidan es erTi

muWa `samarTlianobis mebai-

raxtrebi~ xom ar darCebodnen

mxolod...

`deda-kmarelma~ Tqva, Tanam-

deboba ar mindoda, raRacebze

dumili momiwevda da imitomo.

hoda, amitom aris `mokrZale-

bulad sadRac mimjdari~, To-

rem ra problema iyo.

ager, patara Cioras ma-

galiTs SexedeT da yvela-

feri naTeli gaxdeba. `er-

Tiani nacionaluri moZra-

oba _ gamarjvebuli saqar-

TvelosTvis~ partiuli

siiT, patara kmareli Cio-

ra, didi parlamentari Ci-

ora gaxda.

1981 wels dabadebuli

daviT TaqTaqiSvilis asu-

li 1999 wels, anu jer

pirze rZeSeuSrobeli 18

wlis gogona, sakonstitu-

cio sasamarTloSi Tavmj-

domaris TanaSemwe iyo.

aravin Semomedavos, sazo-

gadoebriv sawyisebze iyoo

_ faqti win devs, ra sawyiseb-

ze iyo.

2003 wels safrangeTis sa-

elCoSi ataSes TanaSemwe gaxl-

daT. arc axla Semomedavos vin-

me, ataSis TanaSemweoba ra wa-

mosayvedrebelia, jer TviTon

ataSeoba ra aris, dabali dip-

lomatiuri rangia sagareo saq-

meTa saministros uwyebaSio _

xom faqtia, rom mniSvnelovania.

maSin isic vTqvaT, rom

2003 wlidan 2004 wlamde,

erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi, pata-

ra `kmareli~, quTaiseli Cio-

ra, iusticiis saministroSi,

saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis

departamentis mrCevelic iyo,

saqarTvelos teqnikur univer-

sitetSi miwveuli doqtoric,

saqarTvelos ganaTlebisa da

mecnierebis saministroSi mi-

nistris mrCevelica (vai, im

ganaTlebis ministrs, 23 wlis

Cioras `sarCevi~ rom yofila

da `ui~ Cvens Tavs!) da iuri-

diuli departamentis ufro-

sic da al. diumas saxelobis

centris pedagogic.

1999 wels 18 wlisam sa-

konstitucio sasamarTlos

Tavmjdomaris TanaSemweobidan

rom daiwyo, 20 wlisa fond

`evraziis~ proeqtis iuristic

gaxldaT da gzad `kmaras~ gah-

kioda _ ai, figaro! yvelafe-

ri, misi namsaxureobebi rom

SevajamoT, ra SeZleba da gaqa-

neba hqonia am patara gogos,

momcro Taiguli ki ara, wi-

TellentSebmuli, dafnis

gvirgvini Tu ara, yvavilovani

gvirgvini mainc ekuTvnis...

dro gadioda, amasobaSi

gaizarda Ciora da 2008

wels miwveuli leqtoric

gaxda Tbilisis saxelmwifo

universitetSi da saqarTve-

los me-7 mowvevis parla-

mentis wevric. Tbilisis sa-

xelmwifo universitetis

uZlieresi goni sanagveze

moisroles da aTasgvari

leqtor-doqtorebi miiwvi-

es patara gogo-biWebis sa-

xiT, _ netav, ra hqvia (ara-

qarTuli demokratiis gan-

martebiT) amgvar qmedebas

axalgazrda TaobebisTvis

codnis gadacemis kuTxiT?

netav, vin da ra aswavla

aseTi Tbilisis ivane javaxiS-

vilis saxelobis universitet-

sa da universitet `parizi-

VIII-Si~ patara Cioras?

akaki minaSvilic Cioras

kbilaa, masaviT leqtorad iw-

veven umaRles saswavleblebSi,

magram CiorasTan ras miva misi

SromiTi biografia, an giorgi

kandelakisa, maradiuli moad-

gilisa...

roca `kmaras~ Senobebis

fasadebisa da asfaltis saRe-

bavebiT moTxupvnis gamo akaveb-

dnen an wesrigisken mouwodeb-

dnen samarTaldamcvelebi, es

imis maCvenebeli iyo, ra reJim-

Sic vcxovrobdiT; rom poli-

cia politikuri xelmZRvane-

lobisa da SevardnaZis inst-

rumenti iyo, romelic iseT

rameebs sCadoda, rac pinoCet-

sa da fidel kastrosac ar Ca-

udeniaT.

`kmarelobaSi~ marTla

iRebdnen 500-500 lars Tu

ara, amas aRar aqvs mniSvnelo-

ba, sakiTxavi isaa mxolod, is

`kmara usamarTlobis~ aqtivis-

tebi axla ramden-ramdens iRe-

ben iseTs, rom `kmaras~ yviri-

lis da weris ki ara, wamoknav-

lebis survilic aRar aqvT?

maia WeliZe

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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Ciora kmareli

religiur aan eeTnikur nniadagze Cadenili ddanaSaulisTvis pasuxismgebloba mmkacrdeba

rasobrivi, enobrivi,

religiuri, erovnuli an

eTnikuri Seuwynareblo-

biT Cadenili danaSaule-

bisTvis pasuxismgebloba

mk acrdeba . Sesab a misi

cvlilebis Setana sisx-

lis samarTlis kodeqsSi igegmeba, romlis avto-

rebi da iniciatorebi deputatebi: kaxaber anja-

fariZe da zviad kukava arian.

kanonproeqtis mixedviT, danaSaulis Cadeni-

sas rasobrivi, enobrivi, religiuri, erovnuli

an eTnikuri Seuwynareblobis motivi yvela Sesa-

bamisi danaSaulisTvis pasuxismgeblobis damamZi-

mebeli garemoeba gaxdeba. kanonproeqti parlamen-

tSi ukve inicirebulia, magram misi ganxilva jer

ar dawyebula.

kontrolis ppalata `̀qarTuli oocnebis~saCivars xxval gganixilavs

kontrolis palata

biZina ivaniSvilis mier

daarsebuli sazogadoeb-

rivi moZraobis, “qarTu-

li ocnebis” saCivars,

romliTac es ukanakne-

li finansuri monito-

ringis subieqtad dafiqsirebas aprotestebs,

xval ganixilavs.

rogorc guSin gamarTul preskonferenciaze

ivaniSvilis iuridiuli jgufis warmomadgenelma

zaqaria qucnaSvilma ganacxada, sazogadoebrivi

moZraoba “qarTuli ocneba” Tavs politikur su-

bieqtad ar miiCnevs.

qucnaSvilis TqmiT, saCivris ganxilva kont-

rolis palataSi 17:00 saaTze gaimarTeba, dasw-

reba Jurnalistebsac SeuZliaT.

`medianiusi~

aqa ambavi Citi Ciorasi da kidev sxva Citunebisa...

Ciora parlamentari

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arCevnebis moaxloebasTan

erTad, saqarTvelos xelisuf-

leba sul ufro iWreba da amJa-

vebuli rZesaviT iseT mware-mwa-

re saqmeebs akeTebs, rom mraval-

nacad sazogadoebas calybad ga-

Rimebuls tovebs. ise, asaWre-

lad namdvilad aqvT saqme, rad-

gan amaT namoqmedar Savbnel saq-

meebs viRac keTili Zia kanonis

Sesabamisad asworebs. unda viva-

raudoT, rom is Zia xelisuf-

lebis patroni, dasavleli sa-

zogadoebaa da yurs maSin uwevs,

roca Zalian uberavs da kanoni-

erebas fexqveS Telavs.

erTiT nuli

`qarTus~ sasargeblod

daviwyoT imiT, rac bolo

dros yvelaze xmaurian sakiTxad

iqca, rogorc sabanko sferoSi,

ise qarTul politikur sivrce-

Si. saqarTvelos mTavrobam mou-

lodnelad uari Tqva im sakanon-

mdeblo cvlilebaze, romlis

Tanaxmadac pirveladi ipoTeka-

ris ufleba biujets eZleoda.

yvelasaTvis cnobilia, rom es

cvlileba gaTvlili iyo `qarTu

bankis~ dasazaraleblad. xeli-

suflebam erTgvarad miaRwia ki-

dec mizans. bevri msxvili kre-

ditori, visac bankSi Cadebuli

hqonda ramdenimemilioniani qo-

neba, iZulebuli gaxda, es aqti-

vebi gaeyida, raTa gaestumrebina

biujetis davalianeba, romelic

aravin icis, rodis da ra piro-

bebSi warmoiSva. samagierod,

banki darCa garantiebis gareSe,

anu msesxebeli kredits daabru-

nebda Tu ara, mxolod mis ke-

Til nebaze iyo damokidebuli.

cnobilia isic, rom msgavsi

problema mxolod `qarTus~

klientebs gauCndaT da arc erT

sxva banks.

bankis generalurma direq-

torma oficialurad mimarTa sa-

erTaSoriso safinanso organi-

zaciebs da saqarTvelos mTavro-

bis ukanono gadawyvetilebis sa-

kiTxis Seswavla sTxova. msof-

lio bankma es problema safuZv-

lianad gamoikvlia da xelisuf-

lebas misi anulireba mosTxova.

mogexsenebaT, yvela saerTaSori-

so organizacia saakaSvilis uf-

rosia da maTi sityva kanonia.

ase moxda amjeradac. mTavrobam

operatiulad Seasrula moTxov-

na da pirveladi ipoTekaris uf-

lebis iniciativaze uari Tqva.

marTalia, bankebis asociaci-

is prezidenti acxadebs, rom ar

aris swori mosazreba, TiTqos

mTavrobam es gadawyvetileba

mxolod ucxour finansur ins-

titutebTan konsultaciebis

Sedegad miiRoo, magram Cven amas

nu davijerebT. es kaci ori

Tvis win aseve warmatebiT amt-

kicebda, rom sakanonmdeblo

cvlileba aravis miayenebda zi-

ans da igi ar iyo mimarTuli

mxolod erTi bankis winaaRmdeg.

zurab gvasalia amtkicebs, rom

amave dros biznesTan seriozu-

li konsultaciebi mimdinareob-

da: _

cota xnis win Sex-vedra Sedga baTumSi,romelsac premier-mi-nistri, mTavrobis wev-rebi da biznesis far-To speqtri eswrebo-da. araerTi Sexvedraiyo bankebis asociaci-asa da biznesis warmo-madgenlebTan da yove-live amis niadagze,biznesis da aqedan ga-momdinare, qveynis eko-nomikis sasargeblodmTavrobam absolutu-rad swori gadawyve-tileba miiRo.

uh, mZime, anu mJave SemTxve-

vaa. amaze ityvian, kum fexi ga-

moyo, mec naxirnaxiro. saiTac

dauberavs xelisuflebis survi-

lebi, gvasaliac iqiT miefareba,

emand, nacionalebis miznebs, anu

Cems keTildReobas araferi dae-

muqroso. mere es eqsperti da

profesionali imis mtkicebas

mohyveba, rom arasasurveli da

xSirad araswori interpretaci-

ebi, rac am cvlilebas mohyva,

rasakvirvelia, imoqmedebda ga-

remoze da ara marto sainvesti-

cioze, Tavad biznessac Seuqmni-

da problemebs. calsaxad imis

Tqma, rom am cvlilebis moqmede-

bis periodSi mxolod erTi ban-

ki dazaralda, arasworia. cvli-

leba mTeli sabanko seqtorisaT-

vis gatarda da ratom xdeba aq-

centireba erT bankze, gaurkve-

velia.

ra aris garkveuli gvasali-

asTvis, mis sindisze iyos. mTa-

varia, rom xelisuflebam ukan

waiRo Tavisi gadawyvetileba da

pirvandeli saxiT brundeba is

Canaweri, romelic sagadasaxado

kodeqsSi arsebobda. ase rom,

erTiT nuli `qarTus~ sasargeb-

lod. xelisufleba iZulebulia,

kidev erT gaxmaurebul sakanon-

mdeblo cvlilebaze Tqvas uari,

Tumca amaze Semdeg nomerSi vi-

saubrebT, roca sakiTxi srulad

gadawydeba.

fici mwams,

bolo makvirvebs

prezidenti rom yoveldRe

ruseTumeebs eZaxis yvelas, vi-

sac misi Citirekia moqmedebebi

ar moswons, nacnobi ambavia. bo-

lo dros, saakaSvils parlamen-

tis Tavmjdomarec daemata da

magaliTad, guSin sul ruseTis

mosyidulebi eZaxa opoziciasa

da mis mxardamWerebs. vidre ga-

varkvevT, vin ufro didi ruse-

Tumea, erT saintereso informa-

cias SemogTavazebT.

energetikisa da bunebrivi

resursebis saministros „buneb-

rivi resursebis saagentom~

bolnisisa da dmanisis municipa-

litetebSi sasargeblo wiaRise-

ulis (feradi, keTilSobili,

iSviaTi metalebi da bariti)

Seswavla-mopovebis licenzia

auqcionze gayida. licenziis

sawyisi Rirebuleba 110 milion

lars Seadgenda. auqcionSi

ucxouri kapitaliT dafuZnebu-

li kompania „maining invesTmenT-

si“ monawileobda, romelmac

auqcionze gamotanili 27-wlia-

ni licenzia 110,5 milion la-

rad SeiZina. licenzia 2014

wlis 15 aprilidan amoqmeddeba.

dReisaTvis aRniSnul sabadoeb-

ze sasargeblo wiaRiseuliT

sargeblobis uflebas kompania

„madneuli“ flobs. auqcionis

pirobebis Tanaxmad, investori

valdebulia, bolnisSi, madneu-

lis sabadoze arsebuli marage-

bi licenziis amoqmedebidan 24

Tvis vadaSi daiTvalos, xolo

saydrisis sabadoze _ 48 Tvis

ganmavlobaSi.

aqve davamatebT, rom `madne-

uli~ parlamentar koba nayofi-

as sakuTrebaa, romelmac swo-

red ruseTSi naSovni fuliT

SeiZina qoneba. amxela simdidres

marto viRac nayofias rom ara-

vin dauTmobda, faqtia. masTan

erTad wils inawileben ruseTis

sxva moqalaqeebic, sxvaTa So-

ris, uSiSroebis samsaxuris ma-

RalCinosnebi. SarSan wlis mi-

wuruls, xelisuflebam gadawy-

vita, rom ormocamde licenzia,

romelsac `madneuli~ flobs,

qmnis monopolias am sferoSi da

amitom kompanias ori licenzia

daaTmobines. erTi SarSan gaiyi-

da, meore ki _ wina kviras.

licenziis gayidvis faqts

exmaureba salome zurabiSvili,

romelic amtkicebs, rom myidve-

li kompaniis damfuZnebelic ru-

seTis moqalaqea da saqarTvelos

xelisufleba agrZelebs Zvel

politikas, sasargeblo wiaRise-

ulisa da samrewvelo obieqte-

bis ruseTisaTvis gadacemas:

_ samwuxarod,ufro da ufro na-Teli xdeba saa-kaSvilis Crdil-oeTisken orien-tacia. terito-riebis gadacemaSefuTuli omiT,kodoris da axal-goris usityvodCabareba. mamiso-nisze sazRvrisaqeT gadmowevaramdenime kilo-metriT. sworedim dros, rocaoseTidan preten-ziebs acxadeben

`TavianT~ miwebsa dasaxlebze saqarTve-los teritoriaze, amdros.... uvizo reJimisSemoReba!!!!! da kidev ....Telasis, engurhesisda bevri sxva magali-Tebis Semdgom, ruse-

bisTvis bolnisis damadneulis oqros daspilenZis sabadoebisCabarebam naTeli mo-fina saakaSvilis ganZ-raxvas: konpanian `mai-ning investmentma~ mii-Ro 27 wliT licne-zia!!!!! kompania ekuTv-nis viRac litvis moqa-laqes, mgram reziden-tia ruseTis da cxov-robs peterburgSi!!!!!!es kompania daregist-rirda saqarTveloSiama wlis 13 Tebervals(!!!!), auqcioni ki Catar-da 29 Tebervals. amazeaSkara Cabareba re-sursebis da terito-riebis ra unda iyos????meti ra gaakeTos saa-kaSvilma, rom dagvar-wmunos, vin warmoad-gens ruseTis intere-sebs saqarTveloSi?vinaa ruseTume?

ritorikuli kiTxvebia, Tu

faqtebs CavuRrmavdebiT. saakaS-

vilma bolo dros kargad gaiTa-

visa erTi qarTuli andaza, Cemi

Sen giTxari, guli mogikali. ra

mamaZaRlobasac gaakeTebs, mere

dgas da xels sxvisken iSvers,

magaTi gakeTebuli iqnebao. mar-

to ambobs ki ara, Svreba kidec,

radgan Tu garedan romelime

patronma ar daucacxana, ise ma-

gis gamCerebeli SigniT aravinaa.

am qveyanaSi bevri

da ufaso marto bolia

saavadmyofoebis gaxsnis re-

JimSi myofi prezidenti, para-

lelurad iseT tempSi lapara-

kobs, rom Znelia gaarkvio, ra

aris simarTle da ra xalxuri

zRapari. parlamentSi gamosvlis

da gaqcevis Semdeg igi yovel-

dRiurad amtkicebs, rom misi

Semosavlebi mxolod imitom ga-

izarda, rom qveyana mdidrdeba,

Semosavlebi izrdeba da Sesaba-

misad, cxovrebis donec maRla

iwevs. mogexsenebaT, prezidentis

kveris damkvrelia statistikis

samsaxuri, romelic cdilobs,

miSas sizmrebi statistikuri

maCveneblebiT gaamyaros.

magaliTad, saqstatis infor-

maciiT, 2011 wlis meoTxe kvar-

talSi sawarmoebSi dasaqmebul-

Ta mTlianma raodenobam 379.2

aTasi kaci Seadgina, rac wina

wlis analogiur maCvenebelTan

SedarebiT, 3.55%-iT gazrdilia.

dasaqmebulTa mTliani raodenoba

sawarmos zomis mixedviT Semdeg-

nairad nawildeba: msxvili biz-

nesi – 63.6%, saSualo biznesi

– 13.5%, mcire biznesi – 22.9%.

ai, aq mTavrdeba miSas da saqsta-

tis simarTle. qveyana, sadac

warmoebis 64 procenti msxvil

bizness miaqvs da wvrils mxo-

lod 23 procenti uWiravs, verc

samuSao adgilebs gazrdis da

verc cxovrebis dones gaaumjo-

besebs. ra aumjobesebs saakaSvi-

lis Semosavlebs, es sazogadoe-

bam isedac icis da ra zRaprebs

mohyveba prezidenti, ar aris

mniSvnelovani.

bolosityva, imis dasam-

tkiceblad, rom Cveni cxovreba

sul ufro rTuli da Rataki

xdeba, ramdenime magaliTs movi-

tanT: komerciulma bankeb-ma gadauxdelobis gamo151 154 kreditors saxligauyides. aqedan TavSe-safris gareSea darCeni-li 70 aTasamde ojaxi. 2011

wels aRsrulebis erovnuli bi-

uros mier biujetSi gadaricxu-

li Tanxis raodenobam 110 569

084 lari Seadgina, rac 2008

welTan SedarebiT 11-jer metia.

amasTan, gazrdilia movaleTa

reestrSi Canawerebis raodeno-

bac. Tu aTiode dRis win reest-

rSi CanawerTa raodenoba TiTq-

mis 60 aTass Seadgenda, dReis

monacemebiT am cifrma 61 aTass

gadaaWarba. movaleTa reestrSi

iuridiulze metad fizikuri pi-

rebi sWarboben. amis erT-erT

mTavar mizezad eqspertebi qveya-

naSi arsebul dabal ekonomikur

aqtivobas asaxeleben.

manana gegiZe

xelisuflebam wiaRiseulismopovebis kidev erTi

licenzia mihyida rusebs, anu rogor daicva msofliobankma banki `qarTu~

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11saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa mmssaaxxiioobbii

paata baraTaSvili

__ bbaattoonnoo ppaaaattaa,, TTqqvveenn eerroovv-

nnuullii mmooZZrraaoobbiiddaann mmooddiixxaarrTT,,

iiyyoo oommeebbii,, aarreeuulloobbeebbii.. ppiirraaddaadd

TTqqvveenncc ddeevvnnaass ggaanniiccddiiddiiTT.. ddRReess

aaSSkkaarraadd aaRRaarr iissvvrriiaann,, mmaaggrraamm

xxaallxxii TTaavvss uuSSiiSSrraadd rroomm aarr

ggrrZZnnoobbss,, ffaaqqttiiaa.. mmooddiiTT,, SSeevvaaddaa-

rrooTT ddRReevvaannddeelloobbaa ddaa iiss wwaarr-

ssuullii ppeerriiooddii eerrTTmmaanneeTTss..

_ saxelmwifo sabWos dros

bevri ubedureba datrialda,

iyo kudianebze nadiroba, xal-

xis devna, saqarTvelos isto-

riaSi, yovel SemTxvevaSi, ra-

sac me moveswari, erT-erTi sa-

marcxvino furcelia. ar vici,

Tu arsebobs msgavsi analogi,

rom adamianma, romelmac qveya-

nas Tavisufleba, damoukideb-

loba moutana gandevnes, si-

cocxles gamoasalmes. vimeo-

reb, es erT-erTi samarcxvino

furcelia Cvens istoriaSi.

dRevandeloba im periodTan Se-

darebiT cota gansxvavebulia.

adre Tu xalxis devna aSkara

iyo, dRes Sefarulad akeTeben.

xelovnebaSi vmoRvaweob da

vTqvaT ra xdeba am sferoSi. na-

xeT nacionalur arxebze gada-

cemebi, Souebi, erTi da igive

xalxia, romlebic xelisufle-

bis maameblebi arian. sxva sfe-

roebSic asea. dRes, samwuxa-

rod, aSkarad xocaven xalxs.

naxeT, ra moxda axlaxan xaSur-

Si?! dRes demokratiis niRabs

amofarebuli moqmedeben, Torem

sxvaoba bevri ar aris. politi-

kur asparezze gamoCnda sapir-

wone Zala biZina ivaniSvili da

naxeT, ra iafasiani meTodebiT

ebrZvian. erTi kacis winaaRmdeg

icvleba qveynis kontitucia.

__ rraaddggaann bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii

aaxxsseenneeTT,, aaqqvvee SSeeggeekkiiTTxxeebbiiTT,, rroo-

ggoorr SSeeaaffaasseebbTT mmiiss ppoolliittiikkuurr

aarreennaazzee ggaammooCCeennaass??

_ politikur asparezze mi-

si gamoCeniT kmayofili var.

magram, erTs ki vurCev, gaake-

Tos arCevani erovnul Zalebze.

sabednierod, erovnuli muxti

saqarTveloSi ar gamqrala, sak-

maod aqtualuria.

saerTod, optimisti var. pe-

simistze amboben, kargad in-

formirebuli optimistiao.

etyoba, ara var informirebuli

da imitom var optimisti. xum-

roba iqiT iyos, saqarTvelos,

RvTismSoblis wilxvedr qveya-

nas RmerTi uSvelis, magram xe-

li Cvenc unda gavanZrioT. yo-

vel SemTxvevaSi, amaze uaresi,

rac dRes aris, araferi ar iq-

neba. biZina ivaniSvilma Tavisi

moRvaweobiT daamtkica, rom

uyvars qarTveli, xelovani,

sportsmeni, mecnieri, pativs

scems ganaTlebas da akeTebda

im saqmes, rac wesiT xelisuf-

lebas unda ekeTebina. gaegrZe-

lebina qvelmoqmedebao, _ am-

bobs zogierTi. ra kargia,

ara? amaTi saqme biZinam

akeTos da amaT kidev sa-

xelmwifo xazinidan fu-

li Caidon jibeSi. guSin-

deli cxvirmouxocavi

tipi rom xar, jer kidev

bavSvi rom moxvedi da

dajeqi ministris savar-

ZelSi, Rvawlmosil xa-

lxs, romlebmac 40-50

weli imuSaves, Seni xel-

fasis measeds unda aZlev-

de pensias? am xelisuf-

lebis yvelaze didi danaSau-

lia, rom Seqmna usamarTlo

qveyana. eseni aravis winaSe ar

arian angariSvaldebuli, rad-

gan gayalbebuli arCevnebiT mo-

vidnen xelisuflebaSi. ar min-

da mTeli qarTveli eri `ofi-

ciantebad~ gadaiqces, magram

aqeTken midis saqme.

__ ppaarrllaammeennttSSii pprreezziiddeennttiiss

ssttuummrroobbiissaass ooppoozziicciiiiss wwaarrmmoo-

mmaaddggeennlleebbmmaa rraattoomm aarr iissaauubbrreess

2266 mmaaiissss mmoommxxddaarr mmoovvlleenneebbzzee??

_ is dRe marTlac saSine-

leba iyo! ratom ar iyo amaze

laparaki, ar vici, SeiZleba is

liderebi, romlebic xelmZRva-

nelobdnen aqcias vinmesTvis mi-

uReblebi iyvnen, magram im xal-

xma ra daaSava, romlebsac ase

sastikad gauswordnen. ruseTis

agentebio, sxvebs abraleben,

magram TviTon arian! biZina iva-

niSvilis gamoCenamde rusebi

saakaSvils adanaSaulebdnen om-

is dawyebaSi, magram axla lav-

rovi ambobs, omi imitom da-

viwyeT, saqarTvelo nato-Si ar

gawevrianebuliyoo. ra sisule-

lea, vin gviRebs natoSi.

__ ppoolliittiikkuurr sscceennaazzee TTuu

aappiirreebbTT ggaammooCCeennaass ddaa ssaadd SSeeiiZZ-

lleebbaa vviixxiillooTT ppaaaattaa bbaarraaTTaaSSvvii-

llii??

_ iq sadac erovnuli Zale-

bia. dRes erovnuli Zalebi Zi-

riTadad Tavmoyrili arian

`kavkasiis helsinkis jgufSi~,

mec iq var da brZolas vagrZe-

leb.

gia burduli

`Òî, ÷òî ó âàñ íåò ñóäèìîñòè,_ ýòî íå âàøà çàñëóãà, à íàøàíåäîðàáîòêà~ _ feliqs edmun-

dis Ze ZerJinskis es sityvebi

erTi-erTze miesadageba saqarT-

velos moqmedi prezidentis, sa-

qarTvelos reformirebul-de-

formirebuli samarTaldamcavi

organoebisa da sasamarTlos

suliskveTebas.

principSi, ZerJinskis sity-

vebis gameoreba pirukuc kargad

iTqmeba da Sesrulebadia, anoma-

liuri warmonaqmni, e.w `qarTu-

li opozicia~ rom ar iyos ga-

daulaxav barierad qceuli. ma-

namde ki dawyebuli preziden-

tis cnobili miTiTebidan `nu-

lovani tolerantoba!~ _ dam-

Tavrebuli gldanis sasjelaRs-

rulebis dawesebulebaSi bo-

lodroindeli tiradiT, Zala-

Sia.

xaTuna kalmaxeliZem axali

sasjelaRsrulebis dawesebu-

lebis sazogadoebrivi misaRebi

rom daaTvalierebina baton

prezidents gldanSi, romelic

STagonebuli saxiT dahyveboda

da usmenda `cixeebis dedo-

fals~, laparakis saRerReli

aeSala, daiwyo da ra daiwyo _

marTla ar aqvs enas Zvali da

marTla wydeba Sublis ZarRvi

Turme...

saqarTvelos prezidenti mi-

xeil saakaSvili: _ `yvelani

isedac ubedur dReSi Cayares

imis gamo, rom danaSauli Cai-

dines da yvelaferi es moxda.

ojaxebi, isedac umZimes soci-

alur dReSi arian, xSir SemTx-

vevaSi amis gamo da aq mainc am

ojaxebs mainc unda gaumarti-

voT cxovreba Cven, imitom,

rom... gareT vinc ari darCeni-

li ojaxis wevrebi, imaT ro-

gor, raRacnairad Cven vuadvi-

lebT cxovrebas da arsebobas,

imitom, rom damcireba grZel-

deboda, yvelaze didi damcire-

ba iyo aq yofnis. ai, misaRebi,

amanaTebi, _ ase rom... Tqven

xarT saerTod axali saxe am

sistemis, imitom, rom sistema

iyo, piriqiT, orientirebuli

damcirebaze, Seviwrovebaze,

gamwarebaze da amiT sazdoobd-

nen da amiT fulsac akeTebdnen

da amiTi siamovnebasac iRebdnen

da, es su sxva raRaca ari, rac

iqmneba da Zaan mniSvnelovani

nawilia Cveni danarCeni saxel-

mwifos aTvisebisTvis.

Cven, axla, uamravi sxvadas-

xva gza gvaqvs, ro cixeebi, sa-

erTod, cota ganvtvirToT, imi-

to, ro Tu adamiani SeiZleba

ro cixeSi ar ijdes, yvelafe-

ri unda gaukeToT, ro cixeSi

ar ijdes. ari aridebis

meqanizmi, probacia, a. S

magram Tu ese gamovida,

ro ari iseTi danaSau-

li, romelic sazogado-

ebisgan unda iyos izo-

lirebuli, maTi ojaxis

wevrebi mainc unda iyv-

nen amiTi, minimalurad

dazaralebulebi.

es xalxi ro gamova,

meored ro ar Caidinos

danaSauli, normalur

ojaxebs unda daubrun-

des da amitom, es oja-

xebi unda iyon maqsimalurad,

raRacnairad, Rirsebis pirobeb-

Si.~ (`qronika~)

vin Cayara `ubedur dReSi~

ubedurebi da Rirsebis ra maq-

simalur pirobebSi arian, an ra

pirobebSi iqnebian msjavrdebu-

lebi da maTi ojaxis wevrebi,

amaze saubars, didi xania, azri

aqvs dakarguli. saintereso is

aris, ra `ojaxebi~ autydaT,

rodis aqeTaa, rom saqarTvelos

xelisufleba msjavrdebulTa

ojaxebze zrunavda? _ arada,

faqtad devs saqarTvelos ri-

giT moqalaqeTa mier `cixeebis

sadistka dedoflad~ wodebu-

li, sasjelaRsrulebis, proba-

ciisa da iuridiuli daxmarebis

sakiTxTa ministris, xaTuna

kalmaxeliZis gancxadeba, rom

misi saministros iniciativiT,

ojaxis gaZlierebis farglebSi.

`yovelTviurad, xangrZlivi da

video-paemnebiT, socialurad

daucveli or-ori ojaxi isar-

geblebs. msjavrdebulTa oja-

xebTan uSualo urTierTobis

xelSewyoba Cveni saministros

2012 wlis 10 prioritetuli

mimarTulebidan erT-erTi mniS-

vnelovani komponentia~, _ brZa-

na qalbatonma xaTunam.

sainteresoa, ra ojaxebze

saubrobs kalmaxeliZe maSin,

rodesac kanoni erTmniSvnelov-

nad iTvaliswinebs kritikul

mdgomareobaSi myofi patimris

gaTavisuflebas (2003 wlis

jandacvis saministros #72

brZanebaSi CamoTvlilia is da-

avadebebi, romlebic patimris

gaTavisuflebis safuZveli xde-

ba) qalbatoni xaTunas uwyeba

ki, arafrad agdebs kanons? _

sanam xelSi ar CaakvdebaT sne-

uli patimari, yurs ar iber-

tyen. axla imis mtkiceba, rom

patimarTa Seryeuli janmrTe-

lobis Sesaxeb informacias ar

floben, an sasjelaRsrulebis

dawesebulebebis eqimebi arian

arakompetenturebi _ dResaviT

naTelia, rom sicruea. bolo-

bolo, im avadsaxsenebel komu-

nistebs hqondaT e.w `aqtirov-

ka~ da am `demokrat~ xelisuf-

lebas ra sWirs aseTi mounele-

beli siZulvili adamianTa mod-

gmisa...

momzadebuli `cvlilebebis

paketiT~ mosamarTleebisTvis

disciplinaruli gadacdomis

saxeebis CamonaTvali mcirdeba.

CamonaTvalSi aRar iqneba Sefa-

sebiTi formulireba `kanonis

uxeSi darRveva.~

parlamentis iuridiul sa-

kiTxTa komitetis Tavmjdoma-

ris moadgilis kaxa anjafari-

Zis TqmiT, `kanonis uxeSi dar-

Rvevis~ amoRebiT, arsobrivad,

araferi icvleba, sakanonmdeb-

lo cvlileba, mxolod formu-

lirebiTi saxisaa, _ mTlad

brma-yruoba hgonia baton ka-

xas?

principSi, ar cruobs kaxa-

batoni, marTla araferi icvle-

ba, arc aqamde isjebodnen mosa-

marTleebi `kanonis uxeSi dar-

RvevisTvis~ da arc am kanonis

miRebis Semdeg daisjebian.

netav, baton anjafariZes ra

dro dasWirdeba im aTasobiT

saqmis CamosaTvlelad, roca

qarTul sasamarTloSi mosamar-

Tlem movaleoba ar Seasrula,

an arajerovnad Seasrula?

moqmedi kanonmdeblobiT, ka-

nonis uxeS darRvevad iTvleba

saqarTvelos konstituciis, sa-

qarTvelos saerTaSoriso xel-

Sekrulebebis da SeTanxmebebis,

saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobis

imperatiuli moTxovnebis dar-

Rveva, ramac arsebiTi ziani mi-

ayena (an SeeZlo mieyenebina)

procesis monawilis, mesame pi-

ris kanonier uflebebsa da in-

teresebs, an sajaro intere-

sebs. sainteresoa, kaxa-batoni

da mTlianad adamianTa ufleba-

Ta dacvisa da samoqalaqo in-

tegraciis saparlamento komi-

tetis wevrebi TviTonve ver

erkvevian sakuTar abdaubdaSi,

Tu hgoniaT, rom maT SeTxzul

abdaubdaSi sxva veravin gaerk-

veva? xelisgulze devs, rom

mosamarTleebs qveynis umaRle-

si kanonis _ konstituciis

darRvevac ki aRar CaeTvlebaT

gadacdomad!

maia WeliZe

am xelisuflebis yvelaze didi

danaSaulia, rom SeqmnausamarTlo qveyana

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rruubbrriikkaa `̀kkoonnssiilliiuummSSii~~ eennaaTT-

mmeeccnniieerrii levan Rvinjiliaggvveessaauubbrreebbaa

_ saxelmwifoTa absoluturi

umravlesoba Tavisi erT-erTi um-

Tavresi maxasiaTebliT – saxel-

wodebiT - Sesabamis eTnosTanaa

dakavSirebuli, anu, Tavis dro-

ze, es saxelmwifoebi erovnuli

niSniTaa Seqmnili, Tumca,

eTnikuri kuTvnilebisadmi damoki-

debulebis TvalsazrisiT, dRevan-

deli viTareba ramdenadme gansxva-

vebulia: dRes, eTnikuri maxasia-

Tebeli - erovnulobis erT-erTi

umTavresi niSani - wina planze

wamoweuli araa. ufro metic:

Turme, “karg tonad” iTvleba, Tu-

ki am maxasiaTebelze (eTnikur

warmomavlobaze) yuradReba saer-

Tod ar gamaxvildeba. aqve ganvmar-

tav, rom sityva ,,erovnebas” dRes

orgvari mniSvneloba aqvs: CvenSi -

da bevr sxva qveyanaSic - ,,erovne-

ba” eTnosTanaa gaigivebuli da am

eris (eTnosis) warsulis, misi

warmomavlobis mimaniSnebeli

sityvaa. rrooccaa vvaammbboobbTT - ,,,,eerroovvnnee-

bbiiTT qqaarrTTvveellii””,, eess nniiSSnnaavvss wwaarrmmoo-

mmaavvlloobbiiTT,, ggeenneettiikkuurraadd qqaarrTTvveellss,,

mmaaggrraamm ssxxvvaa eennaaSSii,, vvTTqqvvaaTT,, ffrraann-

gguullSSii `̀nnaassiioonnaalliittee~~ nniiSSnnaavvss aarraa

wwaarrmmoommaavvlloobbiiTT ffrraannggss,, aarraammeedd

ssaaffrraannggeeTTiiss mmooqqaallaaqqeess.. dRevandel

saqarTveloSi am sityvis (erovne-

bis) Tavdapirveli mniSvneloba

uaryofilia, anu oficialuri do-

kumentebidan es rekviziti amoRe-

bulia, xolo misi meore mniSvne-

loba, frangulSi an sxva evro-

pul enebSi rom gamoiyeneba (moqa-

laqes rom aRniSnavs), qarTulSi

damkvidrebuli jerac ar aris da

swored es iwvevs im mraval ga-

ugebrobas, rac Cveni enobrivi

arealis SigniT am sityvis gamoye-

nebas axlavs. magaliTad, koloni-

alizmis winaaRmdeg mimarTul

moZraobas ,,erovnul-ganmaTavisuf-

lebeli moZraoba” erqva, gasuli

saukunis miwuruls (80-90-ian

wlebSi) gavrcelda termini -

,,erovnuli moZraoba”, 2003-04

wlebSi ki gaCnda e.w. ,,nacionalu-

ri moZraoba”. inglisurSi (sxva

evropul enebSic) ,,erovnulic”

da ,,nacionaluric” erTi da imave

sityviT gamoixateba, magram, cxa-

dia, es imas ar niSnavs, rom naci-

onaluri moZraobis gaCenis Semdeg

sityva ,,erovnuli~ CvenSi ,,nacio-

nalurma” Caanacvla. ara, aq, sam-

wuxarod, seriozul aRrevasTan

gvaqvs saqme. zogjer erovnuls

iseT SemTxvevaSi iyeneben, sadac

nacionaluris xmarebaa saWiro,

anu sityvis datvirTva ara ,,eTni-

kuri”, aramed ufro ,,saxelmwifo-

ebrivi” niSniT. magaliTad, roca

amboben _ ,,erovnuli gamocdebi”,

rasakvirvelia, es ar niSnavs ,,eT-

nikurad qarTvelTa” gamocdebs.

erovnul gamocdebSi monawileobs

yvela eris warmomadgeneli, vinc

ki saqarTveloSi cxovrobs. ,,sa-

qarTvelos kanonSi zogadi ganaT-

lebis Sesaxeb” sityva erovnuls

sxva (meore) mniSvnelobac aqvs.

magaliTad, kanonSi naxmaria cneba

- ,,erovnuli mentaliteti”, rome-

lic arafriT ar SeiZleba iyos

polieTnikuri. roca sityvas ori

an meti gansxvavebuli mniSvnelo-

ba aqvs, isini erTmaneTisgan mkveT-

rad gamijnuli unda iyos, magram,

samwuxarod, dRevandelma xeli-

suflebam es ver moaxerxa da mi-

viReT sityvaTa semantikuri aRre-

va. aRniSnulis gaTvaliswinebiT,

Tu dRes liberalur-demokrati-

ul Rirebulebebs gadavxedavT, sa-

dac ,,erovneba” (,,eTnikuris” mniS-

vnelobiT) win wamoweuli ar

aris, aqcenti gadatanilia sityva

,,nacionalurze” (evropuli mniSv-

nelobiT) da xazgasmulia is, rom

am qveynis mkvidri adamianebisTvis

umTavresi maxasiaTebeli moqalaqe-

obaa. maSasadame, Tu vityviT, rom

erovnuloba adamianis vinaobaa,

moqalaqeoba aris - sadauroba. ad-

amians erTdroulad SeiZleba

hqondes vinaobac da sadaurobac,

magram es ukanaskneli vinaobis

alternativa ar aris. ,,vin xar?”

da ,,sadauri xar?” _ ori sxvadas-

xva ramaa. e.w. globalist-kosmo-

politebs ratomRac moeCvenaT,

rom vinaobis win wamoweva saWiro

ar aris. rrooccaa eerroovvnnuull ssaaxxeellmmwwii-

ffoozzee vvssaauubbrroobbTT,, aaqqvvee CCnnddeebbaa kkiiTTxx-

vveebbii __ ,,,,rraa aarriiss qqaarrTTuullii ooccnnee-

bbaa??””,, ,,,,rraazzee vvooccnneebboobbTT,, rraa ssaaxxeell-

mmwwiiffooss vvaaSSeenneebbTT?? ,,,,qqaarrTTuullii ooccnnee-

bbaa”” qqaarrTTuull ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooss gguulliissxx-

mmoobbss?? __ ddiiaaxxoo!! ggvveettyyvviiaann,, mmaaggrraamm

qqaarrTTuullii ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo rraass gguulliiss-

xxmmoobbss,, ssiittyyvvaa __ qqaarrTTuullii rraass nniiSS-

nnaavvss aaqq?? __ ccxxaaddiiaa,, eess mmxxoolloodd qqaarr-

TTuullaadd mmoollaappaarraakkee ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooss

aarr nniiSSnnaavvss.. ki, erT-erTi umTavre-

si komponenti isaa, rom es saxel-

mwifo qarTulad unda laparakob-

des, magram mTavaria, es iyos te-

ritoria, romelic genetikuri

qarTvelebiT iqneba (da aris) da-

saxlebuli, rac, bunebrivia, sxva-

enovan eTnikur diasporebTan Tu

erovnul umciresobaTa warmomad-

genlebTan Tanacxovrebas aranai-

rad ar gamoricxavs, magram, amaT-

gan gansxvavebiT (es ar exeba afxa-

zebs), CCvveennTTvviiss ((qqaarrTTvveelleebbiissTTvviiss))

eess mmiiwwaa-wwyyaallii eerrTTaaddeerrTTii tteerriittoo-

rriiaaaa,, ssaaddaacc SSeeiiZZlleebbaa qqaarrTTvveellii,,

rrooggoorrcc kkaaccoobbrriioobbiiss mmooddggmmaa,, aarr-

sseebboobbddeess.. bunebrivia, TiToeuli

Cvengani fiqrobs erze, qveyanaze,

mis momavalze, ojaxze... fiqrs ra

dalevs, magram ratom gaxda meo-

rexarisxovani adamianis warmomav-

lobiTi Taviseburebebis aRniSvna?

rogorc Cans, amas safuZveli aqvs.

vviinn aarriiss qqaarrTTvveellii?? __qqaarrTTvveellii

aarriiss aaddaammiiaannii,, vviinncc qqaarrTTuull eennaaSSii

ccxxoovvrroobbss,, aannuu vviinncc ssaammyyaarrooss qqaarr-

TTuullii eenniiTT aaRRiiqqvvaammss,, qqaarrTTuullaadd

xxeeddaavvss ssiizzmmaarrss,, aabbooddeebbss,, ffiiqqrroobbss,,

ggaanniiccddiiss qqaarrTTuullaadd,, vviissaacc mmiissddaauu-

nneebbuurraadd wwaammoossccddeebbaa qqaarrTTuullii,, aannuu

vviissaacc aarraammxxoolloodd ggaaccnnoobbiieerreebbuullii

aaqqvvss TTaavviissii qqaarrTTvveelloobbaa ddaa qqaarrTTuu-

lleennoovvnneebbaa,, aarraammeedd qqvveeccnnoobbiieerrSSiicc,,

ggaauuccnnoobbiieerreebbeell SSiinnaaggaann ssaammyyaarroo-

SSiicc,, rroommeelliicc ggaaaazzrreebbuullii aarr aaqqvvss,,

iiqqaacc yyvveellaaffeerrii ,,,,qqaarrTTuullaaddaaaa

mmoowwyyoobbiillii..”” es aris qarTveli.

aris Tu ara yvelaferi amis ,,mo-

qalaqis statusSi gadayvana” saWi-

ro da aucilebeli? qarTveli eri

(aqve vixmar termins, romelic

presaSi jer ar gaxmianebula, mas-

ze SeiZleba vinmem ikamaTos, mag-

ram ara uSavs!) kacobriobis saxe-

obaa. me ar vambob, rogori saxeo-

baa _ kargi, cudi, saSualo, vin-

meze uaresi, Tu - ukeTesi _ es

calke msjelobis sagania, magram

cal-calke aRebuli yvela eTno-

si kacobriobis saxeobaa, romelic

samyaros Tavisi mSobliuri eniT

aRiqvams es bevrad ufro gansxva-

vebuli xedvebia samyarosi, vidre

gansxvaveba leopardsa da iaguars,

lomsa da vefxvs, jiqsa da focx-

vers, panTerasa da avazas Soris,

miuxedavad imisa, rom yvelani ka-

tisebrTa ojaxidan arian. saWiroa

Tu ara arsebobdes da SenarCune-

buli iyos es saxeobebi? _ diax,

es ase unda iyos, amaSi SeTanxme-

bulnica varT. adamis modgmis mi-

marT ase konkretulad ar gvims-

jelia, magram biologiur samya-

roze xom vzrunavT. Tu biomra-

valferovnebas ase TavgametebiT

icavs mTeli civilizebuli msof-

lio, miTumetes unda vizrunoT

kacobriobis saxeobebze, romlebic

unikalur da erTmaneTisagan gans-

xvavebul kulturas qmnidnen da

dResac qmnian.

_ batono levan, konkretulad

,,Cveni saxeobis” gadarCenas raime

safrTxe emuqreba?

_ diax, safrTxe emuqreba, ro-

melsac pirobiTad SeiZleba ,,sin-

gapurizacia” vuwodoT. sanam amas

ganvmartav, manamde davsvaT kiTxva

_ dasaxlebulia Tu ara yvela

qveyana ,,kacobriobis saxeobebiT”?

_ pasuxi negatiuria – ara! aris

qveyana, romelic dRes TiTqos

ganviTarebis gezs gviCvenebs

mTels danarCen msoflios _ esaa

amerikis Seertebuli Statebi. aSS

swored is qveyanaa, romelSic mo-

qalaqeobrivi kuTvnilebaa domi-

nanturi. amerikeli eri (nacia) ar

warmoadgens kacobriobis saxeobas.

es, ra Tqma unda, amerikelobis

mniSvnelobas sulac ar akninebs.

garemoebebma ganapirobes ise, rom

Tavis droze sxvadasxva qveynidan

wasulma adamianebma, romlebmac

TavianT samSobloebze uari Tqves,

Tavi moiyares amerikaSi. ccnnoobbiillii

qqaarrTTvveellii ffssiiqqoollooggii,, bbaattoonnii SSoo-

TTaa nnaaddiirraaSSvviillii aammbboobbddaa __ aammeerriikkaa

ssaammSSoobbllooss uuaarrmmyyooffeellii aaddaammiiaannee-

bbiiss mmiieerr SSeeqqmmnniillii qqvveeyyaannaaaaoo.. isini

sxva kontinentze, sxvis miwaze

dasaxldnen da iq aaSenes ze-sa-

xelmwifo, riTac maT Segnebulad

Tqves uari kacobriobis saxeobad

yofnaze. ddiiddii bbooddiiSSii yyvveellaa aammeerrii-

kkeellTTaann iimm SSeeddaarreebbiissTTvviiss,, rraassaacc

aaxxllaa vviittyyvvii:: __ vviirriicc ddaa ccxxeenniicc

bbiioollooggiiuurrii ssaaxxeeoobbeebbiiaa,, mmaaggrraamm

ccxxeenniissaa ddaa vviirriiss nnaaSSiieerrii __ jjoorrii

- uukkvvee ssaaxxeeoobbaa aaRRaarr aarriiss,, rraaddggaann

mmaass ggaannvviiTTaarreebbiiss ppeerrssppeeqqttiivvaa aarraa

aaqqvvss.. igi cxenisebrTa ojaxSi ,,mo-

qalaqea”, magram ar aris cxenisna-

irTa saxeoba. anu, is, vinc Tavis

istorias sufTa furclidan

iwyebs, ar SeiZleba istoriuli

saxeoba iyos. SSeeiiZZlleebbaa aaSSSS-ssggaann

mmiissaabbaaZZii ddaa ggaaddmmoossaaRReebbii iiyyooss ssaammoo-

qqaallaaqqoo RRiirreebbuulleebbeebbii,, mmaaggrraamm mmaass

eeTTnniikkuurrii wwaarrssuullii ddaa mmiiss mmiieerrvvee

SSeeqqmmnniillii eeTTnnookkuullttuurraa aarr ggaaaaCCnniiaa..

CCvveenn SSeeggvviiZZlliiaa aavvaaSSeennooTT eerroovvnnuullii

ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo iissee,, rroomm ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo

RRiirreebbuulleebbeebbii aarr ddaavvkkaarrggooTT,, ppiirrii-

qqiiTT __ ggaannvvaavviiTTaarrooTT,, aavviiTTvviissooTT,,

mmaaggrraamm aarraammcc ddaa aarraammcc aarraaffeerrii aarr

uunnddaa ggaavvaakkeeTTooTT iisseeTTii,, rroommeelliicc

qqaarrTTvveelliiss,, rrooggoorrcc kkaaccoobbrriioobbiiss

ssaaxxeeoobbiiss,, ggaaddaarrCCeennaa-ggaannvviiTTaarreebbaass

SSeeuuSSlliiss xxeellss.. amitom da amrigad,

upirveles yovlisa, aucilebelia,

kargad movemzadoT imisaTvis, ra-

Ta globaluri procesebis Tana-

monawileni gavxdeT. iqneba es in-

terneti, mobiluri kavSirebi, te-

lekomunikaciebi, Tu sxva. ras

niSnavs yvelafers momzadebulni

davxvdeT? _ gana ar varT momza-

debulni? _ kompiuterebsac vxma-

robT da mobilurebsac, magram am

sferoebidan Cveni qveynis saxelm-

wifo ena arsebiTad gamoTiSulia

da, roca globalur samyaros in-

glisurad vuerTdebiT, maSin Cveni

ena Tavis umniSvnelovanes funqci-

as hkargavs. Tu Cven es ,,enobrivi

teritoriebi” ar aviTviseT, di-

dad davzaraldebiT. enobrivi te-

ritoriebi ki Cven marto geogra-

fiul arealebSi ar gvaqvs dasab-

runebeli afxazeTis, samxreT-ose-

Tis, samcxe-javaxeTis an qvemo

qarTlis saxiT, aramed qarTule-

novani teritoriebi eleqtronul

sivrceSic dakarguli gvaqvs da es

yvelaferi unda davibrunoT. am

TvalsazrisiT, misabaZia israelis

damokidebuleba Tavisi enisadmi,

saxelmwifoebriobisadmi. ebrae-

lebma TiTqmis mkvdari ena _ ebra-

uli gaacocxles da saxelmwifo

enad aqcies.

_ ebraelebma ki gaacocxles

ena, Tumca Cven gaamerikeleba-ggain-

gliselebisken mivdivarT. Tqven

brZaneT, qarTvelia is, vinc qar-

Tul enaSi cxovrobso. am fonze,

ramdenad arsebobs safrTxe, rom

sizmari qarTulis nacvlad ingli-

surad vnaxoT. aqve, erT magaliTs

gavixseneb, roca safrangeTis pre-

zidenti sarkozi bolos saqarTve-

loSi imyofeboda, man Tqva, imedia

aq male franguladac ilaparakebe-

no. anu man, Tavisi ena sxva qveya-

naSi daicva. Cven ki ra gvWirs ase-

Ti, rom Cvensave qveyanaSi ver dag-

vicavs sakuTari _ qarTuli ena?

_ Zalian sagulisxmo da mniS-

vnelovani kiTxvaa. zogs hgonia,

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enis dacva maRaziis Sesasvlelze

gakeTebuli inglisurenovan war-

weraze SeniSvnis gamoTqmiT amoi-

wureba; eenniiss ddaaccvvaa aarr aarriiss pprroo-

ffeessiiaa __ eess mmooqqaallaaqqeeoobbrriivvii mmoovvaa-

lleeoobbaaaa.. ssaakkuuTTaarr TTaavvzzee SSeemmiiZZlliiaa

ggiiTTxxrraaTT:: zzooggiiss aazzrriiTT,, TTuurrmmee,, mmee

pprrooffeessiiiiTT eenniiss ddaammccvveellii vvyyooffiill-

vvaarr.. ssiinnaammddvviilleeSSii kkii kkaavvkkaassiioolloo-

ggii ggaaxxllaavvaarrTT - ddaaRReessttnnuurrii eenneebbiiss

ssppeecciiaalliissttii.. zzooggjjeerr vvxxuummrroobb

xxoollmmee,, aabbrraaggii vvaarr-mmeeTTqqii,, rraakkiiRRaa

aabbrreebbzzee wwaarrwweerreebbiiss ggaasswwoorreebbaa mmii-

wweevvss (ufro sworad, adre miwevda,

Torem axla esec ver xerxdeba,

rac Cveni xelisufleba ingli-

surs kruxiviT gadaefofra. sinam-

dvileSi, es ubralo saqme sulac

araa, es swored is sakiTxia, rom-

lis gauTvaliswineblad mentalu-

rad amerikelis tipis mosaxleo-

bad gadaviqceviT. prezidenti xSi-

rad ambobs _saqarTvelo Tanabrad

yvelasiao, magram mas kargad ara

aqvs gaazrebuli am gamonaTqvamis

mniSvneloba. Tanabrad yvelasi da

saerTo singapuria, sadac ZiriTa-

di mosaxleoba 17 procentia, xo-

lo saxelmwifo ena - inglisuri

- es 17 da danarCeni 83 procenti

erTmaneTs inglisurad esaubreba.

iq erovnulobaze laparaki ar Se-

iZleba. ssiinnggaappuurrii aarr aarriiss kkaaccoobb-

rriioobbiiss ssaaxxeeoobbaa,, iisseevvee,, rrooggoorrcc

aammeerriikkaa,, mmaaggrraamm CCvveenn TTuu ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-

llooss qqaarrTTuulleennoovvaann ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoodd

aarr CCaammoovvaayyaalliibbeebbTT,, mmaaSSiinn mmaass aaqqvvss

mmeeoorree ppeerrssppeeqqttiivvaa __ ggaaxxddeess iinngg-

lliissuurreennoovvaannii tteerriittoorriiaa ddaa qqaarr-

TTvveelloobbaamm,, rrooggoorrcc kkaaccoobbrriioobbiiss

ssaaxxeeoobbaamm aarrsseebboobbaa SSeewwyyvviittooss.. aq

darCebian warmoSobiT qarTvelebi,

iseve, rogorc slavuri warmoSo-

bis krilovebi, gogolebi da a.S.

cxovroben Cxorowyusa da mart-

vilSi. idealuri viTareba iqnebo-

da, rodesac xar saqarTvelos

araqarTulenovani moqalaqe, mTli-

anad inarCuneb Sens eTnikur Tavi-

seburebebs, magram, enobrivi Tval-

sazrisiT, saxelmwifoSi iseve iq-

cevi, rogorc qarTveli. magali-

Tad, Tbilisel qurTebTan, an

iezidebTan urTierTobisas enob-

rivi, moqalaqeobrivi problema

arasodes ar yofila da arc aris,

isini qarTvelebTan erTad aSeneben

erovnul saxelmwifos. es imas ar

niSnavs, rom qurTebma aucileb-

lad ,,Cakrulo” da ,,mravalJamie-

ri” unda imReron an Cveni xalxu-

ri cekvebi Seiswavlon. ara, ba-

tono! maT TavianTi eTnokul-

tura da adaT-wesebi SeinarCu-

non, aravin amaSi xels ar uS-

lis, ar zRudavs. eerrTTaaddeerrTTii

ffaaqqttoorrii,, uurroommlliissooddaacc ssaaxxeell-

mmwwiiffoo mmoonnoolliiTTuurrii ddaa mmTTlliiaannii

vveerr iiqqnneebbaa,, eennaaaa ddaa eess ddaammookkii-

ddeebbuulleebbaa __ ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooSSii ssxxvvaa-

ddaassxxvvaa eennaazzee mmoollaappaarraakkee aaddaammiiaa-

nneebbiiss mmiimmaarrTT,, jjeerr kkiiddeevv 2233-2244

ssaauukkuunniiss wwiinnaannddeell ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo-

SSiiaa ggaammooxxaattuullii,, rodesac quji

egriseli da farnavazi Tanxmde-

bian, rom saqarTvelo iyos er-

Tiani qarTulenovani saxelmwi-

fo Tavisi mravali SenakadiT:

`ese farnavaz iyo pirveli mefe

qarTlisa Sina qarTvelsa naTe-

savTagani, aman ganavrco ena

qarTuli da arRara izraxeboda

sxua ena qarTlsa Sina Tvinier

qarTulisa da aman Seqmna mwig-

nobrobai qarTuli~. amisave ma-

galiTia svanebisa da megrel-Wane-

bis (kolxebis anu zanebis) Semo-

erTeba erTian qarTul sivrceSi

da amis safuZvelze kvlav erTia-

ni qarTveli eris Camoyalibeba.

amas garda, uamravi sxva eri da

eTnosi SemogvierTda, absolutu-

rad yvela miviReT, viZmeT, Sevi-

kedleT. axla me gekiTxebiT: roca

EerTiani didi ojaxis 20-mde wev-

ri erT enaze vlaparakobT, erTi

da ori rom Semovida ucxo, Cven

20-ni mis enaze unda gadavideT?

ratom?, xom Tavad Semovidnen

Cvens ojaxSi,sakuTari nebiT da

surviliT? hoda, gvelaparakon

didi ojaxis enaze, saerTo enaze

da saerTo saxelmwifo avaSenoT.

ai, ras veZaxi erovnul saxelmwi-

fos da vis SeuZlia amas raime da-

upirispiros? ratom unda moviWra

me saxelmwifoebrivad amerikul

modelze, rodesac SemiZlia iqe-

dan mxolod moqalaqeobrivi Rire-

bulebebi wamoviRo. erovnuli sa-

xelmwifos aSeneba ki enis movla-

patronobis gareSe ar moxerxdeba.

sabWoTa saqarTveloSi 20-ian

wlebSi daiwyo terminologiri

saqmianoba. 11992211 wweellss TTbbiilliissiiss

uunniivveerrssiitteettSSii eennoobbrriivvii kkoommiissiieebbii

SSeeiiqqmmnnaa,, ggaammssaaxxuurrddiiaass ddaa SSeevvaarrddnnaa-

ZZiiss ddrrooss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo eenniiss mmuuddmmii-

vvii ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo kkoommiissiiaa pprreezziiddeenn-

tteebbiiss rraannggSSii iiyyoo aayyvvaanniillii,, ssaaaakkaaSS-

vviillmmaa kkii aabbssoolluuttuurraadd yyvveellaaffeerrii

wwaaSSaallaa.. rrooggoorr?? iivvaannee jjaavvaaxxiiSSvviill-

mmaa,, aarrnnoolldd CCiiqqoobbaavvaamm,, aakkaakkii SSaannii-

ZZeemm,, ggiioorrggii aaxxvvlleeddiiaannmmaa,, vvaarrllaamm

TTooffuurriiaamm,, qqeeTTeevvaann lloommTTaaTTiiZZeemm,,

iivvaannee ggiiggiinneeiiSSvviillmmaa,, nniikkoo mmuussxxee-

lliiSSvviillmmaa,, iilliiaa vveekkuuaamm,, nniikkoo

kkeeccxxoovveellmmaa,, ssiimmoonn jjaannaaSSiiaamm ddaa

ssxxvvaa kkoorriiffeeeebbmmaa aarr iiccooddnneenn,, rraass

aakkeeTTeebbddnneenn,, rraattoomm iiyyoo eess ssaaWWiirroo

ddaa mmiiSSaamm uukkeeTTeessaadd iicciiss??!!

_ am korifeebs, romlebic

qarTuli universitetis saTaveeb-

Tan idgnen, ganaTleba ruseTSi

hqondaT miRebuli, Tumca icodnen,

rom amis gamo saqarTveloSi ru-

seTi ar unda aeSenebinaT. axlan-

deli mTavrobis wevrebis didma

nawilma ki ucxoeTSi daamTavres

universitetebi da amitom Cveni

samSoblo inglisad unda gadaake-

Ton?

_ dRes miSas qveynis ganviare-

bis gezi arCeuli aqvs: is ambobs,

rom singapurs aSenebs. modiT, am

ambavs saqarTveloSi mcxovrebi

romelime sxva eTnosis warmomad-

genlis, magaliTad, somxis pozi-

ciidan SevxedoT: _ kaco, es qar-

Tvelebi TviTon inglisurze gada-

dian, Cven gveubnebian, grantebs

mogcemT, jer qarTuli, mere ing-

lisuric iswavleTo, qarTuls

rom viswavliT, qarTvelebs ki da-

velaparakebiT, magram azerbaijane-

lebmac ar ician qarTuli _ axla,

azerbaijanulic viswavloT? Tu

ra vqnaT?. amitom ssoommeexxii ffiiqqrroobbss::

aarr mmiirrCCeevvnniiaa,, mmeecc ppiirrddaappiirr iinnggllii-

ssuurrii vviisswwaavvlloooo.. rrooggoorrcc ssaabbWWooTTaa

kkaavvSSiirriiss ddrrooss iiyyoo,, rrooccaa rruussuullss

eerroovvnneebbaaTTaaSSoorriiss uurrTTiieerrTToobbiiss

eennaass eeZZaaxxddnneenn.. aaxxaall vviiTTaarreebbaaSSii aamm

ffuunnqqcciiaass iinngglliissuurrii iittvviirrTTaavvss ddaa

mmooggWWaammaaTT WWiirrii qqaarrTTuullmmaa,, rrooggoorrcc

qqvveeyynniiss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo eennaamm..

roca prezidenti saakaSvili

navrozobas ulocavs azerbaijane-

lebs da bodiSs uxdis maT

imis gamo, rom ufro kar-

gad ar icis azerbaijanu-

li da hpirdeba, Semdegi

SexvedrisTvis mets vis-

wavlio _ es ar aris swo-

ri! prezidenti ar aris

valdebuli iswavlos im-

deni ena, ramdeni sxvadas-

xva eTnosis warmomadgene-

lic cxovrobs CvenTan.

arcerT saxelmwifoSi ase

ar xdeba. rac Seexeba, mis

sajaro gamosvlebs, roca

prezidenti qveynis saxe-

liT gamodis, igi qveynis enaze _

qarTulad unda laparakobdes.

prezident obamas sarkozisTan an

merkelTan rom hqonoda daxuruli

Sexvedra, gareT gamosvlis Semdeg,

Tqven ggoniaT, isini preskonfe-

renciaze laparaks inglisurad

daiwyebdnen? ar yofila SemTxveva,

rom preskonferenciaze safrange-

Tis prezidents inglisurad ela-

parakos. rao? ar icis man ingli-

suri? _ rogor gekadrebaT, Zali-

an kargad icis! angelamac icis

germanulis garda sxva enebi, mag-

ram igi germanias warmoadgens,

germania laparakobs misi piriT.

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss pprreezziiddeennttiiss ppiirriiTT

ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo uunnddaa llaappaarraakkoobbddeess ddaa

aarraa aammeerriikkaa aann iinngglliissii.. samwuxa-

rod, CvenTan ise SemoiWra es ing-

lisuri, rogori agresiuli Se-

moWris faqtic sabWoTa perodSic

ki ar dasturdeba. rusebs amis

msgavsi araferi ar gaukeTebiaT.

ufro metic, rusuli enidan qar-

TulSi sityva _ leqsikuri erTe-

uli TiTqmis ar Semosula, Ti-

To-orolas garda da imasac ki

qarTul Sesatyvisebs vuZebnidiT

(me ar vgulisxmob zepiri gziT

gavrcelebul barbarizmebs). ing-

lisuri ki sakmaod didi doziT

Semovida.

_ Tqven aRniSneT xe nayofiT

icnobao, magram Cven xes cdilo-

ben sxva fesvebi Caudgan da ase

xom sul sxva nayofs miviRebT?

_ rac Seexeba fesvebs, ru-

sebs odnavi zianic ki ar mouye-

nebiaT, am TvalsazrsiT, qarTu-

lenovani sazogadoebisTvis. mmccdd-

eelloobbaa iimmiissaa,, rroomm ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo

iinngglliissuurreennoovvaannii ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo

ggaaxxddeess,, vvffiiqqrroobb ggaannwwiirruulliiaa,,

rraammddeennaaddaacc eess mmoommaasswwaavveebbeellii iiqq-

nneebbaa iimmiissaa,, rroomm eerrmmaa TTvviiTTmmkkvvllee-

lloobbaazzee mmooaawweerrooss xxeellii ddaa mmeerree

uukkvvee ggaammoossaaZZiieebbeellii aaRRaarr iiqqnneebbaa,,

vviinnmmeemm ggvveessrroollaa TTuu TTvviiTToonn mmoo-

vviikkaalliiTT TTaavvii.. es kargad unda ga-

viazroT da vicodeT, ra misia gva-

kisria, ramdenad gvinda aseTebi

viyoT. eri, rogorc cocxali or-

ganizmi, romelic sicocxlisuna-

riania, wesiT, amgvar nabijs ar

unda dgamdes. darwmunebuli var,

am sakiTxebs politikaSi momavali

axali Zala yuradRebas miaqcevs.

_ ,,axal Zalas” gaazrebuli

aqvs, rom erovnuli saxelmwifos

Seneba enis faqtoris ignorirebiT

SeuZlebelia? saxelmwifos mSe-

nebloba enaze saubriT da ara

ekonomikis win wamoweviT rom un-

da daviwyoT?

_ saxelmwifo mravali kompo-

nentisgan Sedgeba. Tu adamiani

mSieria, bavSvi Caucmeli hyavs, ga-

naTlebas ver aZlevs, gzebi mou-

wesrigebelia, aseT SemTxvevaSi

mas eris sulier misiaze da sxva

msgavs maRal materiebze veRar da-

elaparakebi. magram yovelTvis

kargad unda gaviazroT da TiTo-

euli moqalaqis gonebamde daviyva-

noT, rom es yvelaferi saSuale-

baa imisaTvis, rom qarTvelma er-

ma, rogorc kacobriobis saxeobam

da samyaros gamorCeulma, gansxva-

vebulma movlenam, Tavisi sulieri

misia ganaxorcielos, aaRorZinos

SemoqmedebiTi potenciali da igi

mTels kacobriobas gauziaros.

eerrTTmmaa WWkkvviiaannmmaa kkaaccmmaa mmiiTTxxrraa

ssaauubbaarrSSii __ wwaawwlloobbiissaa ddaa sswwoorrff-

rroobbiiss iinnssttiittuuttiiss mmqqoonnee eerrss aaxx-

llaa ggvvaasswwaavvlliiaann bbooiiffrreennddii ddaa

ggeellffrreennddii rrooggoorr vviiyyoolliiooTToo??!!

uuaammrraavvii mmiivviiwwyyeebbuullii aaddaaTT-wweessii ggvv-

aaqqvvss,, rraazzeecc CCvveennii ,,,,ppaattrroonnii”” yyuu-

rraaddRReebbaass aarr aammaaxxvviilleebbss.. kkii,, SSeeiiZZ-

lleebbaa aarr aarriiss ssaaWWiirroo CCaammooxxrrCCoobbii-

lliiss ssaaxxllSSii TTookkzzee vviissaauubbrrooTT,,

mmaaggrraamm vviiRRaaccaamm TTaavvii rroomm CCaammooiixxrr-

CCoo,, aammiiss ggaammoo TTookkiiss wwaarrmmooeebbaa SSeevv-

wwyyvviittooTT??!!

weRan Tqven axseneT, safrange-

Tis prezidentma Cvens samSoblo-

Si sakuTari ena daicvao. safran-

geTSi arsebobs saministro, rom-

lis funqcia safrangeTis gareT

franguli enis gavrcelebaa. iqneb

me franguli mirCevnia, ratom ma-

iZuleb maincadamainc inglisurs?

siRnaRSi cxovrobs erTi amerike-

li, romelmac qarTuli simRera

iswavla da colic qarTveli Se-

irTo. ai, am tipis ,,SemoerTeba”

gvinda qarTul kulturasTan da

saxelmwifosTan. saakaSvili ki

araqarTulad iqceva, roca ambobs

saqarTvelo Tanabrad yvelasiao _

ara! ar aris, batono, Tanabrad

yvelasi. saqarTveloSi mcxovreb

araqarTvel mosaxleobas kargad

unda avuxsnaT _ saqarTvelos

konstituciiT saqarTvelos sa-

xelmwifo ena aris qarTuli. qar-

Tvelebis es erTi unikaluri fe-

nomeni somxisTvisac, azerbaijane-

lisTvisac da sxva yvelasTvis,

vinc aq cxovrobs, savaldebuloa,

ise, rogorc azerbaijanSi azerba-

ijanuli, da somxeTSi somxuri.

maSasadame, Tanasworoba Tundac am

erT punqtSi ukve dairRva. garda

amisa, SemiZlia bevri magaliTi Ca-

movTvalo, ris gamoc ar varT Ta-

nasworni. sxvaTaSoris, obamam sa-

akaSvils mouwona _ qveyanaSi um-

ciresobaTa sakiTxebi sworad

gaqvs gadawyvetilio. me Tu

mkiTxavT, ar aqvs sworad gadawy-

vetili, ufro metic, saerTod ga-

dasawyvetia es sakiTxi. Cven ar vi-

ciT saqarTveloSi vin aris umci-

resoba. saqarTveloSi yvela so-

mexs unda hqondes garantirebuli,

samarTlebrivi TvalsazrisiT, yve-

la is ufleba, rac garantirebu-

li aqvs parizSi, los-anjelesSi,

niu-iorkSi da a.S. vikiTxoT, ra

uflebebiT sargebloben

iqauri somxebi da yvela

is ufleba aqac mivani-

WoT. gavarkvioT es da

mere vnaxoT, rogor aR-

moCndeba Sarl aznavuri

safrangeTSi frangi da

axalcixeSi somexi. eeTTnnii-

kkuurrii uummcciirreessoobbeebbiiss ssaa-

kkiiTTxxiicc iisseevvee ggaaddaavvwwyyvvii-

ttooTT,, rrooggoorrcc eess mmssooff-

lliiooSSiiaa.. eerrTTxxeell ddaa ssaammuu-

ddaammoodd ggaavveerrkkvveeTT __ vviinn

aarriiss qqvveeyyaannaaSSii eerroovvnnuullii

uummcciirreessoobbaa ddaa vviinn ddiiaass-

ppoorraa.. aaxxaall xxeelliissuufflleebbaass eess ssaa-

kkiiTTxxii uunnddaa ddaavvuussvvaaTT:: TTuu mmssoofflliioo

aarr aaRRiiaarreebbss eerroovvnneebbaass,, rrooggoorrcc

mmooqqaallaaqqeeTTaa ggaaeerrTTiiaanneebbiiss nniiSSaannss,,

mmaaSSiinn eerroovvnnuullii uummcciirreessoobbaa rraaRRaa

aarriiss?? ar scnob umravlesobas da

am dros imis umciresoba gaqvs,

romlis umravlesobasac ar

scnob? _ es kuriozia. saqarTve-

loSi mcxovrebi somxebi qarTve-

lebisken unda modiodnen. Cven ar

varT valdebulni somxebisken via-

roT. ki batono, somxebTan wavalT

erevanSi, rogorc stumrebi da me-

gobrebi. magram saqarTveloSi isi-

ni iseTive maspinZlebi arian, ro-

gorc qarTvelebi da Cveni ojaxis

adaT-wesi, rogorc maspinZelma,

saqarTvelos moqalaqem, srulad

unda aiTvisos. saqarTveloSi

mcxovrebi somexi, ucxoeTSi, qar-

Tveli eris warmomadgeneli unda

iyos da ara somxebis. vin aris

erovnuli umciresoba saqarTve-

loSi? erovnuli umciresoba sa-

qarTveloSi afxazebi arian. SeiZ-

leba kidev ramdenime eTnosis sa-

kiTxic daisvas, magaliTad qurTe-

bis, romelTac saxelmwifo warmo-

naqmni ara aqvT. gamokveTilad, Se-

miZlia vTqva _ osebi ar arian sa-

qarTveloSi erovnuli umcireso-

ba. magram afxazebze zrunva ki ga-

morCeuladaa saWiro. rac Seexeba

somxur kulturas, mas saqarTve-

loSi zrunva namdvilad ar sWir-

deba – ssoommxxuurrii eennaa ddaa kkuullttuurraa

uunnddaa aaRRoorrZZiinnddeess ddaa ggaannvviiTTaarrddeess

mmxxoollooddddaammxxoolloodd ssoommxxeeTTSSii ddaa

aarrssaadd ssxxvvaaggaann.. mmaaSSaassaaddaammee,, aaffxxaazzeebb-

zzee zzrruunnvvaa CCvveennii uuppiirrvveelleessii aammoo-

ccaannaaaa iimmiittoomm,, rroomm mmaaTT ssxxvvaa ssaamm-

SSoobblloo aarraa aaqqvvTT.. yyvveellaa qqaarrTTvveellmmaa

kkaarrggaadd ggaavvaaxxiillooTT TTvvaallii,, ggaavviiaazz-

rrooTT ddaa eess xxaallxxii gguullSSii CCaavviikkrraaTT

iimm SSeeggnneebbiiTT,, rroomm iissiinnii CCvveennii ZZmmeebbii,,

ddeebbii aarriiaann.. iimmaazzee kkii aarr uunnddaa vvffiiqq-

rroobbddeeTT,, rroomm ccaallkkee ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoodd

ggaammoovvyyooTT.. aarrsseebboobbss ssxxvvaa ggzzeebbii mmaa-

TTii gguulleebbiisskkeenn,, aammaazzee uunnddaa vviimmssjjee-

llooTT.. sswwoorreedd aammaass ggvvTTaavvaazzoobbss

ddRReess bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii.. saakaSvil-

sac hqonda es Sansi, magram Tavi-

si uunarobis gamo, ver gamoiyena.

axla, wyaldidoba gvaqvs da yve-

lam erTad unda gadavarCinoT qve-

yana niaRvrisgan. davdgeT erTmane-

Tis gverdiT, raTa ,,warsul dro-

ebze dardi moviklaT” da samomav-

lo liders davuWiroT mxari.

qveynis, eris, Cveni moqalaqeebis

interesi yvelaferze maRla dava-

yenoT. Tu erTi jgufis interese-

bi meorisTvis misaRebi ar aris,

amis gamo erTmaneTs nu davajaxebT

maT. Tu yvelani Cveni SesaZleb-

lobebis, aRqmis unarisa da cod-

na-gamocdilebis mixedviT moviq-

ceviT, maSin aRar CavvardebiT so-

lomon isakiC mejRanuaSvilis

mdgomareobaSi, romelsac is ki

undoda, Tanamoqalaqeebs ,,operaSi

mosiarule kacad” CaeTvalaT, mag-

ram taSi rodis unda daekra, mis-

da samwuxarod, es ar icoda (,,ara

Sejda mwyeri xesa, ara iyo gvari

misi”).

esaubra Tamar SveliZe

`ero, guli wagsvlia da gagwyromia suli wminda, gonebaze rom moxvide

asi aliyuri ginda!~

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`me SegpirdiT, rom Cven gavi-

marjvebdiT~ _ gavimarjveT ki-

dec!~ _ uraaa. (xalxi). `gaumar-

jos Cvens ukidegano samSoblos,

ruseTis didebas gaumarjos, Cveni

uzarmazari qveynis siZlieres ga-

umarjos!~ _ uraaa, uraaa, uraaa...

(xalxi.) am sityvebiT mimarTa `ma-

neJis~ moedanze aw ukve preziden-

tma vladimer vladimeris-Ze pu-

tinma Tavis amomrCevels da Tva-

lebze sixarulis cremli moiw-

minda.

scnobs Tu ar scnobs rusuli

opozicia msoflios `demokratiu-

li~ Tanamegobroba arCevnebis Se-

degebs vl. putins ruseTis moqa-

laqeTa 65 procentis xmaTa rao-

denoba `jibeSi~ udevs da ramdeni-

me dReSi, ruseTis prezidentobas

ukve mesame vadiT gaagrZelebs!

arada, oriode Tvis win ruseTis

did qalaqebSi gamarTul opozici-

is mitingebze naxevari msoflios

yuradReba revanSze iyo koncent-

rirebuli da winaswari prognoze-

biT varaudobdnen, rom _ Tuki xe-

lisufleba arCevnebs gaayalbebs,

ruseTSi `arabuli gazafxulis~

surnels davatrialebTo!

sagulisxmoa is faqti, rom

prezidentyofili dimitri medve-

devi da arCevnebSi dawinaurebuli

vl. putini gamarjvebis aRsaniSna-

vad swored iq mividnen, sadac

ramdenime kviris win, rusuli

opozicis liderebi da opoziciu-

rad ganwyobili mosaxleoba `mane-

Jis moedanze~ mravalaTasian mi-

tingebs marTavda da sadac imuqre-

bodnen, rom `rusi xalxi gayalbe-

bul arCevnebs ar Segueba da re-

volucias davupirispirebT gam-

yalbeblebs~-o!

Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! ise,

gulze xeli daideT da TqviT _

ruseTSi 4 martis arCevnebiswina

viTareba, aq CvenTan, saqarTvelo-

Si, arCevnebiswina vnebaTaRelvebs

ar gagonebdaT?

sxvisi ar vici, mag-ram piradad me erTgva-ri kalkireba jer kidevmaSin SevniSne, rocaTeTri yelsaxvevebiTSemkuli boris nemcovi,anatoli kasrenko, vla-dimer Jirinovski, gena-

di ziuganovi, aleqseinavalni, mixeil proxo-rovi da sergei mirono-vi `balotniaze~ vixile!`balota~ _ qarTuladWaobs niSnavs da savara-udod, moskovis meriames adgili amitom gamo-uyo opozicias!).

srulebiT ar aris Cemi saqme

ra arCevani gaakeTa ruseTma, mag-

ram zemoTCamoTvlili adamianebi-

dan, ramdenime maTgans satelefo-

no urTierTobidan vicnob da Se-

miZlia, absoluturi gulwrfe-

lobiT giTxraT, rom RmerTma da-

ifara ruseTi, es adamianebi xeli-

suflebis saTaveSi amjeradac rom

ver movidnen! arada, ramdenime

wlis win zemoTaRniSnuli pirov-

nebebi, mag. boris nemcovi niJni

novgorodis olqis gubernatori

iyo, anatoli kasianenko _ pre-

mier-ministri, mixeil proxoro-

vi _ rusuli `demokratiis ma-

ma~-d wodebuli boris elcinis

xelSewyobiT `kapiks kapikze~

adebda da mdidrdeboda, sergei

mironovi putinis pirveli sap-

rezidento vadis periodSi ase-

ve premieri gaxldaT, xolo

sergei navalni, CvenTvis cnobi-

li cxinvalis 2008 wlis omis

periodSi gaxda da maSin man

qarTvelebis mimarT araerTi

qsenofobiuri gancxadebebic gaa-

keTa _`qarTvelebs jer kidev

sabWoTa droidan gamoyofili

siamaye da ampartavneba awvalebT

da rac male CavuklavT, miT

ukeTesi ruseTisTvis~-o!

CamoTvlilTagan boris nem-

covs yvelaze ukeT vicnob da

arasodes damaviwydeba misi cini-

kuri, xSirad uzrdeli gamoxto-

mebi qarTuli opoziciis misamar-

TiT, kerZod: `qarTuli opozicia

sustia da Tanac, Tu imas gaviTva-

liswinebT, rom dRes saakaSvils

opoziciaSi is xalxi hyavs, vinc

adre masTan erTad awyobda `var-

debis revolucias~ _ yvelaferi

naTeli xdeba! Cemi azriT, saakaS-

vils jerjerobiT xelisuflebis

dakargva ar emuqreba, imitom rom

arc sazogadoeba gazrdila im do-

nemde, cvlilebebi rom ganaxorci-

elos~, _ miTxra erT-erT inter-

viuSi man, magram aRniSnuli in-

tervius Cawera me, Jurnalist

irine gogosaSvils ra nervebis

fasad damijda, eg kidev calke aR-

niSvnis Rirsia... `gamarjoba, bato-

no boris~, _ mivesalme me. `kto

vam dal etot nomer?~ _ TiTqmis

damiyvira. `odin naS obSii znako-

mi, a Cto nelziabilo?~ _ vupasu-

xe ironiiT. `vi znaete dama, Cto

ia sCas na baseine, posle trenaJo-

rov i nekogda, ustal ia? ots-

tante poJalusto~, _ momaZaxa

nerviulad da yurmili damikida!

kidev davureke da vuTxari: `Cemi

azriT, ar iqneboda kargi qarTve-

li mkiTxvelisTvis aseT tonalo-

baSi gelaparakaT qarTvel Jurna-

listTan da gaZlevT Sanss, nor-

malurad viurTierToT-Tqo~. amis

Semdeg, (albaT, pirsaxocmoxveul-

ma) nemcovma interviu momca, mag-

ram, rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, man

cinikuri tonaloba airCia da mos-

kovis romeliRac sacurao auzi-

dan saakaSvils mSvidi Zili dau-

mesija, rac mogvianebiT axda ki-

dec! maSinac vTqvi da axlac vam-

bob _ boris nemcovi, rusuli e.w.

opoziciis `bidla~-a (tlu) nar-

cisi da uzrdeli adamiania,) igi

Tavisi TvisebebiT Zalian hgavs

Cvens `greCixas~, romelic Jurna-

listebTan zustad ase urTier-

Tobs! calke Temaa, vladimer Jir-

novski da misi damokidebuleba

qarTvelebisadmi... faqtia, is araC-

veulebrivi, sxarti respondentia,

ueWvelad ganaTebuli, zedmetad

`eqskluziuri~, magram `moia do-

rogaias~ miRma wminda wylis So-

vinistia da vimeoreb _ misi pre-

zidentoba ruseTisTvis aSkarad

safrTxis momtani iqneboda!

sxvisi ar vici, mag-ram piradad Cemi azriTu vinmes ainteresebs,getyviT, rom vinc Jurna-listebTan omobs, is yo-velTvis wagebuli rCe-ba da is warmateba, ro-melsac wuTierad zei-moben, xolme ramdenimeTveSi fermkrTaldeba!

TavSi giTxariT, rom rusuli

da qarTuli opoziciis msgavseba

iseTi aSkara iyo, rom Rimilsac

ki mgvrida-Tqo!

daviwyoT iqidan, rom rusebs

Tavidanve kremlis moSorebiT gamo-

uyves samitingo teritoria! ruseb-

mac TeTri feri airCies `revanSis~

win. avtomobilebis grZeli jaWvi,

gabmuli signali da manqanebze TeT-

ri lentebic igive iyo! dapatimre-

bebi, SeZaxilebi _ ̀ daloi putina~,

`rosia bez putina~, `skaJem puti-

nie-net~, `konec diktature~ da

`putin kiler, putin ubica~-c

zedmiwevniT hgavda TbilisSi, ba-

TumSi, quTaissa da mraval qala-

qebSi gamoitanil Cvens plakatebs

_ `Zirs saakaSvili~, `saqarTvelo

saakaSvilis gareSe~, `saakaSvils _

ara~! `diqtaturis dasasruli~,

`mkvlelo saakaSvilo~ da a.S. er-

Tia plakatebis teqstTa msgavseba

da meorea jiuti faqti imisa, rom

de faqto TbilisSic da moskovSic

isev im adamianebma ̀ gaimarjves~, vis

winaaRmdeg 20-gradusian yinvaSic

ki ar SevSinebulvarT! anu, de faq-

to saakaSvilic da putinic isev

xelisuflebaSi rCebian da metic,

win sasikeTo araferi Cans `demok-

ratiis~ TvalsazrisiT!

faqtia isic, rom ruseTSi pu-

tinis gamarjveba erTgvarad mosa-

lodneli ki iyo, imitom, rom bo-

ris elcinis mmarTvelobis Semdeg

moskovSi, peterburgSi da sxva

uamrav did qalaqebSi rigiTi ru-

sebis socialur-materialuri

mdgomareoba sagrZnoblad gaumjo-

besda da qarTvelebisgan gansxvave-

biT, ruseTSi, saSualo fena yo-

velgvari problemis gareSe Camo-

yalibda! ruseTSi marTalia ko-

rufcia isev arsebobs, magram pu-

tinis prezidentobis pirveli va-

didan moyolebuli dRemde, sapen-

sio Tanxa 260 dolaramdea (mini-

mum) gazrdili da komunaluri ga-

dasaxadebis TvalsazrisiT ki, yve-

laferi SesaSurad mowesrigebu-

li!

moskovsa da sxva qalaqebSi

Zalian bevri axlobeli myavs,

hoda, swored maTgan vici, rom

zamTris TveebSi gaTboba, cxeli

wyali, sadarbazos dasuTaveba,

nagavi da wylis gadasaxadi er-

TianobaSi, arc meti da arc nak-

lebi, TiToeul ojaxs 120 do-

laramde ujdeba da axla, roca

umuSevrobis done ruseTSi Cven-

Tan SedarebiT minimaluria, mix-

vdiT ra gansxvavebaa Cvens yofa-

sa da maT yofas Soris! Cemi bi-

ZaSvilis Svili tania ribakova

domodedovos aeroportSi muSa-

obs da iciT xelfasi ramdeni

aqvs, rigiTi ekonomistis rang-

Si? 5000 dolaramde! xolo mis

Zmas, _ kirils romelic, geode-

zistia da romelic amJamad soW-

Si olimpiadis mSeneblobazea

dakavebuli 7000 dolaramde

xelfass iRebs!

me `vardebis xelisufle-

bis~ mosvlis Semdeg iZulebiT

vcxovrobdi moskovSi da mSve-

nivrad vici, ra masStabebis

simdidrea iq da ra masStabebi-

saa aq, magram rusebi rom gam-

didrdnen da sul cota, dReSi

erTi ojaxi, minimum 100 do-

lars xarjavs, es namdvilad

vici? arc is aris tyuili,

rom msoflios yvela did sa-

kurorto qalaqebs rusebi

dRiTidRe `ipyroben~ turis-

tebis rangSi da arc is aris

tyuili, rom aseTi `gaseirne-

bebi~ aTasobiT dolari ujde-

baT! es ise, cnobisTvis...

`arCevnebi totalurad ga-

yalbebulia da Cven mis Sede-

gebs ar vcnobT! aTasobiT ada-

mians gamoviyvanT quCaSi da ar

davanebebT saakaSvils Cveni xmebis

miTvisebas, vaiZulebT meore turs

da swored meore turi iqneba mi-

si aRsasruli~, _ gvesmoda 2008-

07 wlis dekember-ianvarSi da

aqac siamis tyupebiviT hgavda er-

TmaneTs rusul-qarTuli `opozi-

cia!~ aseve tyupis caliviT hgavda

erTmaneTs rusul-qarTuli saxe-

lisuflebo arxebis ritorika!

telewamyvanebic ki ise hgavdnen

erTmaneTs JestebiT, metyvelebis

maneriT da cinikuri gamometyve-

lebiT rom ifiqrebdi _ amaT er-

Ti xelmZRvaneli xom ar hyavTo?

Zalian sasacilo iyo isic,

Cemi Zveli nacnobi`rusTavi 2~-is moskovisbiuros Jurnalisti Ta-mar gociriZe guSin da

xom vambobdi _mogenatraT vova? _waikuzeT, mova-Tqo?!

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15#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

guSinwin SeSfoTebulisaxiT rom gviyvebodaeTerSi: `kremlis mimde-bare teritoria specda-niSnulebis razmebiT, mi-liciis kordonebiT davladimer putinis mxar-damWeri organizacia `na-SistebiT~ aris garSe-mortymuli~-o!

metic, gviyveboda, rom xeli-

suflebas avtobusebiT Camohyavda

mxardamWerebi, dafiqsirda `karuse-

lebi~, saarCevno urnebSi xmebis ma-

lulad Cayra da rac mTavaria,

Turme nu ityviT da... arCevnebSi

putinisTvis xmis misacemad ro-

gorc gaWirvebuli rusebisTvis

1000-1500 rublic daurigebiaTo!

Tamuna, CvenTanac zustad igive ar

xdeboda an ar moxdeba xvalac?

oRond am ubeduri qarTvelebisTvis

30-50 dolari ki ar miuciaT, ro-

gorc es ruseTSia, aramed imdeni,

ramdenic erT rigiT russ 1 puris

da erTi `kefiris~ sayidlad Tu

eyofoda! xom cnobilia, rom CvenSi

5-10-15-20 laria maqsimaluri

`stavka?~

axla spec.razmebs, xelisufle-

bis mxardamWerebs, policias da ze-

moqmedebis manqanebs rac Seexeba...

me ar maxsendeba, ruseTSi rome-

lime demonstracia ise daerbioT,

ise gaeTiSaT da daewamlaT xalxi,

rogorc aq saqarTveloSi! arc is

maxsendeba, vinmesTvis darbevis

dros sicocxle moeswrafebinaT da

arc is maxsendeba, romelime momi-

tinge-gardacvlilisTvis xorxi

amoeWraT, anda `dendartymulis~

iarliyi miewebebinoT! rac Cven

2007 weli noemberSi 2011 wlis

maisSi gvirtyes da dagvwamles,

2012 wlis moskovis aqciebi imasTan

ra mosatania an masStabebiT, anda

xelisuflebis mxridan `humanuro-

bis~ TvalsazrisiT?

`nwu, nwu, nwu, karuselebic

davafiqsireT, magaliTad, dafiqsir-

da, rogor ukanonod miaRebines ka-

ruselSi monawileoba jars~-o, _

hyveboda `rusTavi 2~-is meore ko-

respondenti WavWavaZe da ra naxa

iseTi, aq rom ar gvinaxavs da ar

dagvifiqsirebia?~

maSinac vwerdi da ax-lac vimeoreb _ 2008 wlissaparlamento arCevneb-Si, gubaz sanikiZis Stab-Si quTaisSi vakvirdebo-di arCevnebs rogorcJurnalisti da saRamos,vidre ubnebs daxuravd-nen, daaxloebiT saRamos7 saaTze 50-mde jariska-ci ise Camoaqroles ub-nebze, gegoneboda `nac.moZraobis~ kandidatiskako boboxiZis tyveobi-dan dasaxsnelad mihyav-To!

is ki arada, saarCevno ubnebTan

rom `siebiani~ qalebi daZrwodnen

da gvlanZRavdnen, dagvaviwyda?

vimeoreb sakvirvelia da Zalian

sasacilo _ saqarTvelos e.w. xeli-

sufleba, misi televiziebi, eqsper-

tebi, arasamTavroboebi da `sifaTe-

bi~ ruseTis arademokratiulad Ca-

tarebul arCevnebze komentarebs

rom akeTeben da igeslebin, radgan

vis-vis da maT namdvilad ar unda

swyindeT putinis me-3 `krugze~ Se-

mobruneba, imitom rom, yvela sike-

Te, rac 2003 wlis noembris Sem-

deg miuRiaT, swored putinis ̀ lan-

ZRviT~ eRirsaT!

saakaSvilis da putinis msgavse-

baze bevri ram Tqmula da daweri-

la, magram verc erTi qarTveli

Jurnalisti ver bedavda im gansxva-

vebul, Rirseul Tvisebebze elapa-

raka, rac vladimer putins axasia-

Tebs, saakaSvilisgan gansxvavebiT...

pirveli da upirvelesi ki is

aris, rom putinma ar dauSva anti-

rusuli, antimarTlmadidebluri

da antierovnuli ucxouri desan-

tis katapultireba ruseTis miyru-

ebul regionebSic ki.

putinma, marTalia, samwuxarod

da Cvens xarjze, magram 21 sauku-

neSic SesZlo Tavisi ukidegano

qveynisTvis mieerTebina kidev ori

teritoria afxazeTis da samaCab-

los saxiT!

putinma ekonomikurad aRorZina

da gaamdidra ruseTis moqalaqeTa

socialuri statusi!

putinis ruseTis moqalaqeebs

ucxoeTSi veravin verafers ubedavs

da rogorc ityvian, maT `bananis

respublikis~ moqalaqeTa statusiT

aravin moixsenieben! putinis umaR-

lesi xelisuflebis warmomadgen-

lebs, diplomatebs da rigiT Cinov-

nikebs, rigi qveynebis liderebi ar

alodineben, misaReb-kabinetebSi ar

dascinian da metic, yvela `sike-

Tes~ umal uZRvnian, emand araferi

ewyinoTo!

putinis xelisuflebis warmo-

madgenlebi ver bedaven iseT saqci-

els, romelic araTu qveyanas, ara-

med pirovnulad maT imijs daazara-

lebs, ar daexetebian mTels deda-

miwaze dRedaRam, ar xarjaven mili-

onobiT dolars da a.S.

anu, amiT imis Tqma minda, rom

vladimer putini Tavisi qveynis

patriotia da Cven mogvwons es Tu

ar mogvwons, is mxedarTmTavaria,

romelic Tavis jars win ar gaasw-

rebs da SeSinebuli miwaSi cxviriT

ar CaerWoba? halstuxs ar SeWams

da `vai, deda, vai, dedao~ ar iyvi-

rebs mTeli msoflios dasanaxad!

`ar minda samoTxe, momeciT Cemi

samSoblo~!-o citirebda sergei

esenins putini da Tvalze creml-

moreuli madlobas uZRvnida mili-

onobiT rus amomrCevels `maneJis~

moedanze. putinis politikuri sam-

Soblo ki sabWoTa kavSiri iyo da

Tu sergei esenini sityvebs: `sam-

Soblo damibruneTo~ sul sxva

datvirTviT saubrobda, vladimer

putinma zustad is datvirTva mis-

ca, romlis aRdgenac arc aravisT-

vis daumalavs da arc sityvis masa-

lad uxmaria!

vladimer putinma pirvel sap-

rezidento vadaSi aRadgina sabWoTa

kavSiris himni da mas axla _ ru-

seTis federaciis himni hqvia! swo-

red pirvel vadaSi dagvisva Tavisi

xelis biWi miSa saakaSvili prezi-

dentad da imedad xvalis `yverebiT

dakidebs~ gadaarCina premier minis-

trad yofnis dros! `soiuz neruSi-

mi, respublik svobodnix~ _ gax-

sovT xom?

meore saprezidento vadaSi ki

ruseTisTvis saSiSi regionis Crdi-

lo-kavkasielTa daSoSmineba SesZ-

lo! mesame vadiT arCeuli vova ras

izams advili amosaxsnelia, radgan

win soWis olimpiadaa, samxreTis

regionSi stabiluroba sWirdeba da

saakaSvili, stabilurobis Tval-

sazrisiT rom `ver laves~ tipia,

esec kargad moxseneba! Tanac vova

axla uvizo okupantia da fexebze

ar hkidia?

ase rom, vidre `Cveni~ gauyal-

bebeli arCevnebi mogviaxlovdeba,

win bevri usiamovno Tu `sasiamov-

no~ siurprizebi elis saqarTve-

los, rogorc e.w. amerikis partni-

or qveyanas!

ise, ra simboluri iyo isic,

rom ruseTis arCevnebSi egzitpo-

lebis winaswari monacemebis gacxa-

debis dros kosmosSi 2012 wlis 4

marts gaSvebuli raketa amerikis

Tavze imyofeboda Turme da vladi-

mer putinis gamarjvebas winaswar

zeimobdnen misi mxardamWerebi?

ho, sul damaviwyda _am Cvenma `qarTulma~ ar-xebma erTi vai uSvelebe-li rom atexes, jer xmebiar daTvlila da putinissaarCevno StabSi, ukveSampanurebs svameno _ raegre ar aris yovelTvis`nacebis~ StabebSic ne-bismieri arCevnebisas?

adre davwere: `mogenatraT vo-

va? waikuzeT mova-iqo~, magram ax-

la mdgomareoba SedarebiT rTulia

da ase vityodi: `gaimarjva vovam,

wavikuzoT, ueWvelad movaa!!! da es

logikuric iqneba, radgan `sabWoTa

nacionaluri~ xelisufleba xan mi-

unxenSi, xan moskovSi, xan JenevaSi

da xanac aq, TbilisSi, Cum-Cumad

ekurkureba okupanti qveynis umaR-

lesi eSelonebis warmomadgenlebs

da ras moimoqmedebs xval, vfiqrob,

marCielobad arc Rirs!

rac Seexeba ruseTSi dawyebul

saprotesto talRas... rogorc

cnobilia da Cvenc araerTgzis gvi-

naxavs, talRa napirze iSleba,

sustdeba da droTa ganmavlobaSi

sul qreba, ase rom, axali cunami

ruseTSi gamoricxulia, miTumetes

gamarjvebuli putinis ruseTSi da

ramdenic ar unda vakritikoT Cven

is _ sul fexebze hkidia!

irine gogosaSvili

SesaZloa, 2012 wlis 4 mar-

ti saqarTvelosTvis mniSvnelo-

van TariRad darCes, radgan am

dRes aWaraSi, kerZod ki baTum-

Si istoriuli samarTlianobi-

saTvis mebrZoli mrevlis didi

Sekreba Sedga, romelsac meufe

dimitri SiolaSvili da musli-

mi aWarlebis sulieri lideri,

mufti jemal paqsaZe erTad mi-

uZRodnen!

mkiTxvels emaxsovreba, rom

`saerTo gazeTis~ erT-erT pub-

likaciaSi `aWara didi Turqo-

bis zRvarze~, me, Jurnalisti

irine gogosaSvili gamovTqvamdi

sakuTar azrs imis Sesaxeb, rom

Tuki marTlmadidebeli mrev-

lis, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos

da 300 wlis win muslimuri

religiis msxverpli, Cveni Zir-

Zveli qristianebi, aw muslimi

aWarlebi erToblivad ar ga-

laSqrebdnen baTumSi sulTan

azizies saxelobis meCeTis mSe-

neblobis winaaRmdeg, saqarTve-

los moRalate xelisufleba

ufro Sors wavidoda da Tur-

qeTis, rogorc partniori qvey-

nis xelisuflebis nebismier

kaprizs daakmayofilebda da ar

gaiTvaliswinebda im mosaxleo-

bis azrs, romelTac Turquli,

uiaraRo eqspansia aWaraSi, ai,

ukve 9 welia sakuTar tyavze

iwvnies!

marTalia, qarTulma e.w.

`damoukidebelma~ satelevizio

arxebma es protesti Cveulebi-

samebr miCqmales da mxolod 3-

wuTiani siuJetiT Semoifargl-

nen, magram saqarTvelom mainc

Seityo am mamuliSviluri, pat-

riotuli saprotesto Tavyri-

lobis Sesaxeb da sruliad sa-

marTlianad _ umaRlesi Sefase-

bac misca.

baTumSi 4 marts gamarTul

Sekrebas, rogorc Sematyobines,

daaxloebiT, 4000-mde morwmune

qristani da muslimi aWarlebi

eswrebodnen. miuxedavad cudi

amindisa, Tovlisa da sicivisa,

mTeli aWaridan Sekrebili ada-

mianebi erTi da igive frazas

warmosTqvamdnen _ araviTar

SemTxvevaSi ar davuSvebT, rom

saqarTvelos da ruseTis xeli-

suflebam, araTu sulTan azizi-

es saxelobis meCeTi, aramed

sul mcire muzeumic ki aaSeno-

no. isic macnobes, rom uaxlo-

es xanSi ufro farTomasStabia-

ni aqcia igegmeba da am aqciaze

moqalaqeebi saqarTvelos sxva-

dasxva kuTxidanac Cavlen, rac

udavod sasixarulo faqtia!

gansakuTrebiT aRsaniSnavia

is faqti, rom aWarisa da sxal-

Tis eparqiam, rogorc iqna daZ-

lia SiSi, ixmo sakuTari mrev-

li da aWaris `ganmanTavisufle-

beli~ giJis miSa saakaSvilis

Tavxedur, muxanaTur da moRa-

latebriv zraxvas osmanTa impe-

riis erT-erTi jalaTis, dampy-

robeli sulTan azizies saxe-

lobis meCeT-muzeumis aRdgenas

win aRudga.

madloba meufe dimitris

amisaTvis!

madloba marTlmadideblur

mrevls aWaraSi da rac mTava-

ria, madloba muslimTa suli-

er liders aWaraSi, ZirZvel

qristians, patriot aWarel

kacs, mufti jemal paqsaZes, ro-

melmac religiuri mrwamsi

gverdze gadado da deda-samSob-

los, qristianuli religiis ak-

vnis aWaris xelmeore religiu-

ri eqspansiis winaaRmdeg vaJka-

curad gailaSqra!

sagulisxmoa isic, Sekrebil

sazogadoebaSi arsad Candnen po-

litikosebi da maT Soris yofi-

li `respublikeli~ murman dum-

baZe, romelic ara mxolod `sa-

zogadoebriv~ arxze, aramed ne-

bismieri media saSualebebiT da-

ufaravad acxadebda, rom azizi-

es meCeTis ageba _ baTumSi ara-

viTar SemTxvevaSi ar moxdeba

da xelisuflebam ifiqros ama-

zeo! Zalianac kargia, rom 4

martis aqciaze baTumSi arc

Tbilisidan CabrZanebuli poli-

tikosebi ar daswrebian, radgan

aRniSnuli aqcia `politikose-

bis~ sapiaro adgilad ver ga-

modgeboda da metic, Cemi az-

riT, xelsac ki SeuSlida im Ca-

nafiqrs, romelic sisruleSi

aucileblad mosayvania!

marTalia, am aqcias `marTl-

madideblobis zeimi~ daerqva,

magram vfiqrob, aravis ar Se-

parvia eWvi imaSi, rom sinamdvi-

leSi es, utyvad da mravlismT-

qmelad Sekrebili morwmunee-

bis saprotesto, gamafrTxile-

beli mitingi iyo. saqarTvelos

xelisuflebad wodebuli, Tvi-

Tmarqvia da damnaSaveTa xrova,

ki, rac male gaisigrZeganebs ra

procesebi SeiZleba mohyves maT

sijiutes, azizies meCeTis age-

basTan dakavSirebiT, advili

saprognozoa!

kidev erTxel madloba

aWarlebs da im yvela patri-

ots, romlebic win aRudgnen

dampyrobelis `Zeglis~ dadgmas

aWaraSi.

am mamuliSvilur saqmeSi Tu

`saerTo gazeTsac~ miuZRvis um-

ciresi wvlili, maSin didi mad-

loba Cvens redaqtor vaxtang

xarCilavasac, radgan yovelTvis

maZlevs saSualebas, msgavs sa-

kiTxebze Riad, yovelgvari mi-

kibv-mokibvis da saredaqcio

cenzuris gareSe vesaubro Cems

mkiTxvels!

ppaattiivviisscceemmiiTT

irine gogosaSvili

marTlmadideblobisdRe aWaraSi

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bavSvi yvelafer bavSvuris-

saTamaSo traqtorebis, velosipe-

dis, TanaezoelebTan TamaSis da

dedis alersis danaklissac ro-

desac ganicdis, zrdasrul asakSi

dakompleqsebuli, tirani, diqta-

tori da xandaxan sadistic xde-

ba. am movlenas, ase fsiqologebi,

fsiqiatrebi da seqsopaTologebi

xsnian. “arasrulfasovani bavSvo-

bis sindromiT” gaizarda kaligu-

laca da neronic, romlebmac Ta-

visi cxovrebis zenitSi umaRles

Tanamdebobebsa da ganuzomel

Zlauflebasac miaRwies, magram

kacobriobis istorias tiranad,

garyvnilad, msoflio itorias ki

saZraxis stereotipebad SemorC-

nen. aseTi pirovnebebisTvis rTu-

li da warmoudgenelia im “sike-

Teebis” daTmoba, romelsac daum-

saxureblad miaRwies. “daumsaxu-

reblad misakuTrebis” mudmivi

SegrZneba ki sisastikiT TviTdam-

kvidrebis survilsa da gaorebis

grZnobas badebs.

Sesavali mkiTxvelisTvis pre-

zident saakaSvilis sapartalemen-

to angariSis ukeT gasagebad gava-

keTe, radgan misi gamosvla, SeSi-

nebuli, dabneuli kacis abdaub-

das ufro hgavda, vidre Tavis

TavSi dajerebuli “didi refor-

matorisa” da “msofliosgan mxar-

daWerili” prezidentisas. mayu-

reblma cxadad dainaxa, rom sa-

qarTvelos amJamindeli preziden-

tis “saqme ukve wasulia”. Cveuli

ukbilo oxunjobebis, emociuri

tonalobis, sityvebis ylapvisa da

Jestikulaciis fonze, yvelaferi

imaze miuTiTebda, rom saakaSvi-

lisTvis Zalauflebis datoveba,

(Tu ukve ar gamxdara), SesaZloa

fsiqiuri problemebis safuZve-

lic gaxdes. Tavisive sityvebsac

saakaSvili araerTxel gauyidia

da am gamosvlaSic ase daemarTa.

xelisuflebisa da saxelisufle-

bo mediis mxridan mudmivi ironi-

zebis miuxedavad, ivaniSvilis

faqtorma, xalxis misadmi mxarda-

Weram, saakaSvili ise gvarianad

SeaSfoTa, rom sCans “biZina iva-

niSvilobac” Tavad moisurva da

Tavisi, “saakaSvilis ocnebis”

prezentacias Seecada. man TiTqmis

15-jer mainc axsena sityva “ocne-

ba.” yvelanairad Seecada daemtki-

cebina, rom Tu vinmes “rameze oc-

neba” SeuZlia saqarTveloSi _ es

swored saakaSvilia?! rac yvela-

ze sainteresoa, misgan warmodge-

nili samomavlo gegemebi erTi er-

Tze emTxveoda im dargobrivi

jgufebis Tematikas, razec “qar-

Tul ocnebaSi” specialitebi mu-

Saoben. eWvebic imaze, rom xeli-

sufleba “qarTul ocnebaSi” Se-

mogzavnili emisrebiTa da mosame-

ni mowyobilobebiT, mudmivad

“qarTul ocnebaSi” mimdinare

procesebis miyuradebis mcdelo-

baSia _ kidev erTxel gamarTlda.

es ki imaze miuTiTebs, rom saakaS-

vils “gasrolil tyviasaviT” eSi-

nia biZina ivaniSvilis. pirvelive

frazidanac: ”mogesalmebiT bolo-

jer, rodesac am darbazSi vimyo-

febiTo. . .” _ im qvecnobieri Si-

Sis gamJRavneba iyo, romelmac ase

gaagiJa da kargad icis, rom misi

es gamosvla namdvilad boloa!

“sxva darbazic”, SesaZloa, sasa-

marTlo darbazi da sabraldebo

skami aRmoCndes da ara quTaisis

axali parlamenti. amitom, yvela

logikis, konstituciis, xalxis

zizRisa da saerTaSoriso reko-

mendaciebis miuxedavad, icis ra,

rom 2013 wlis Semdeg, xelisuf-

lebaSi “misi duxi” aRar unda

iyos, mainc sul 2015 wels axse-

nebda. es iyo mudara: “2015 wlam-

de mainc damtoveT “biZiebo da de-

idebo”_ klintono da obamao”.

cxvirze xelis gasma da sityvebis

ylapvac misgan ar axalia, magram

aseTi abdaubda metyveleba, “suf-

loiorebiT kiTxvis” miuxedavad

yoveli meore sityvis ylapva uk-

ve imis niSania, rom am ubeduris

saqme, amjerad marTlac cudaa!

marTalia, Cveuli demagogiiT “ag-

zavna mesijebi” dasavleTiskenac.

miusamZimra, eraySi mxolod misi

“qvemZromobis politikiT” daRu-

pul 16 jariskacs: “isini aZli-

ereben qveyanas, SeiaraRebul Za-

lebso”. (oRond visas?) “gaZli-

rebuli SeiaraRebis” sardali

gorSi rom forTxavs da daRu-

pulTa ricxvic oficialurze

bevrad metia _ esec araferi? in-

glisis mefe henrix I-ma, im srul-

wlovanTaTavis, romelnic omSi

gawvevaze SiSiT uars acxadeben

“SiSis gadasaxadi” daawesa. Cvenc,

biujetis Sesavsebad, Tanac roca

“srulwlovani mTavrsardali da

prezidentia”, “forTxvisa da wi-

Tel xidze gamquslavTa” maRali

gadasaxadis daweseba gvawyenda?

revolucia “klanuri diqaturis

aRmosafxvrelad, namdvili demok-

ratiisa da Tanasworobis, tota-

luri korufciisa da kanonis

uzenaesobiT Casanacvleblad gvin-

dodao” rom icrupentela. kacebs

“davaginebinoT”, Tu rogor davum-

tkicoT, rom swored am yvelaf-

ris saTavisod gasamayareblad mo-

vida? Tumca bolo angariSis Sem-

deg, ukve imdeni aginebs, rom es

ginebac “dedis rZesaviT” Seerge-

ba. “Zalian bevri saqme gvaqvs da-

samTavrebelio”. (albaT saqarTve-

losTvis saboloo “dedis tire-

bas” Tu gulisxmobda). saakaSvi-

lis srul agoniaze, mis metyve-

lebaSi axali terminebis gaCenac

miuTuTebda. Tu adre, “yvelaferi

pirvelad saqarTvelos istoriaSi

xdeboda”, axla saukunovan masS-

tabebs gadaswvda: “ukanaskneli

aTaswleulebis manZilze, rogorc

arsadros vgrZnobT yinulis daZv-

raso”. mTeli saerTaSoriso media

da presa krizisis axal talRaze

da iranTan mosalodnen omze saub-

robs, aman ki “omi da msoflio

krizisic warsuls Caabara...”.

wels “Cveni ekonomikac 67%-iT

gazrdila”?!. “sakmarisi ar aris,

magram metia, vidre dasavleTSi”

da “orjer meti” yofila vidre

ruseTSi. “planetis saukeTeso

qveyana” planetarul masStabebze

gasvla ki, saakaSvilis paranoida-

luri agoniis kidev erTi siax-

lea. Semdgomi etapi “galaqtikis

doneze saakaSvilis reformebis

aRiareba” iqneba. 100 000-ze me-

ti Turquli kompaniebis daregis-

trireba, maSin roca qarTvel me-

warmeebs “axrCobs”, “biznesis ke-

Tebis simartived” agvix-

sa. 3000 000 tursitis

momsaxurebisTvis (ofi-

ciantobisTvis, seqsua-

luri momsaxureobisT-

vis, ukanalis gawmendis-

Tvis, fexsacmlis gapri-

alebisTvis) Seqmnili

samuSao adgilebi ki

samsaxuriT uzrunvel-

yofad gaaforma. SeS-

lil gamometyvelebaSi

kargad ikiTxeboda: ”ar

gindaT es biZina, ager

ara var me” _ “Tqveni

ocnebao”. “me xazs vus-

vam, ara imitom, rom mo-

vipovo Tqveni keTilgan-

wyoba an TviTkmayofilma moviwo-

no Tavi Tqvens winaSe”. arada

zustad ase romaa miSiko? “sasi-

cocxlod miniSnvnelovania, Tqven

mudmivad moiTxovoT pasuxi xal-

xisTvis micemul yvela dapirebis

Sesrulebaze. es exeba warsulSi

gakeTebul dapirebebsac da maT,

romlis Sesaxebac dRes mogaxse-

nebTo.” gexsomebaT saakaSvilis

gancxadebac _ “opoziciaSi me rom

viyo, xelisuflebas sam TveSi da-

vamxobdio”? oqtombramde or-

jer sami Tvea da saakSvili axla

axali opozciis liderad Tu mog-

vevlina da darbazSi msxdom par-

laments mosTxova pasuxi “gakeTe-

bul saqmeebze”- mere naxeT Tqven!

Wkua dauSlis, Tu gvariSviloba?

2015 wlisTvis, Cveni mosaxleo-

bis 75%-ze meti iqneba gazifici-

rebuli da dawyebuli 15 hesis

mSeneblobasac 2015 wlisTvis

dagvimTavrebs. (2015 wlamde ki

mokaliT da ar midis) visac jon

perkinsis “ekonomikuri mkvlelis

aRsareba” waukiTxavs da prezi-

dentobamde saakaSvilis hitleris

“main kampfiT” gatacebazec smenia,

advilad mixvdeba, rom am aSenebu-

li hesebidan qarTveli xalxi da

saqarTvelo, ekologiis gaoxrebis

garda verafers miiRebs. gayiduli

eleqtroenergiidan miRebuli fo-

lic, isev saakaSvilis ojaxis ji-

beebSi daileqeba. gazifikacia ki

“main kampfis” moyvaruls “mosax-

leobis gaziT gagudvad” SeiZleba

esmodes. bunebriv airSic, haeris

sanacvlod, im nivTierebas aRar

umateben, romelsac gazis gaJon-

vis SemTxvevaSi suni aqvs. gaziT

gagudvis amdeni SemTxvevac amitom

gaxSirda. “sabaqibuqo saavadmyo-

foebsac”, rogorc erTxel ukve

mogaxseneT, am bolos dros, wina

da ukana Sesavlelidan or-orjer

xsnis xolme. Aaxla xedavT, es ra

dReSi Caugdia “es patiosani ka-

ci” biZina ivaniSvils? ra dReSi

aqvs am sacodavs nervebi, rom

“prezidentma kacma”, sajaro tri-

bunidan, jer skolis moswavles

eZaxa xuligani, mere ki aSS-s el-

Cisac ar moerida da pirdapir

parlamentSi baRaTuriasTan “qu-

Curi garCeva” daiwyo. magram qu-

Cac rom ar icis da baRaTurias-

gan, deputatobisas ybaSi monax-

vedric rom kargad axsovs, amitom

gavarda darbazidan _ “mamas vety-

vio”? gareT uTxres: “biWo, jer

prezidenti xar, sul xom ar ga-

gifrenia, ukan Sebrundio”.

ukve ise auria, rom gvimtki-

ca miwis damuSavebis nacvlad

glexma qveyanac da Tavic turiz-

mis momsaxurebiT unda arCinoso.

“turizmiT ayvavebuli soflis

meurneoba planetaze pirvelad

Cven unda SevqmnaTo”. Semdeg ukve

is frazebi wamovida, rasac sazo-

gadoebis ZiriTad fenaSi gaigebT

xolme _ “xvalindeli dRis Si-

Si”. aq isev “biZina ivaniSilis

faqtori” CairTo miSas tvinSi,

“sufliors gadauxvia” da “nu ge-

SiniaT da gqondeT xvalindeli

dRis imedi, amas sakuTar tyavze

igrZnobs male yvelao”. es “nu

geSiniaT” sakuTari TavisTvis Se-

moZaxebas ufro hgavda, Torem

qarTvelma xalxma “miSas imedad

yofna” rac aris, swored “sauTar

tyavze”_ karga xania SeigrZno!

“yvelaze mZime gamocdasac Cvenma

ekonomikam”, (unda vigulisxmoT),

rom “Ìàëåíêàÿ Âåðà“-ss (qobali-

as) daxamrebiT gauZlo. 2015

wlisTvis, “2 000 000-iT gazr-

dili damsveneblebisa da turis-

tebis ricxvma, axal-axali hese-

bis, gzebis, qalaqebis, kurorte-

bisa da ekonomikuri centrebis

mSeneblobis survilma, yvelas

daanaxa, rom es kaci ukve “sxva

galaqtikaSi dafrinavs” da “ga-

naTlebis xarisxis amaRlebac 5

axali profesiuli kolejis gax-

sna” hgonia, sadac albaT, isev

mona-mosamsaxure oficiantebs mo-

amzadeben. erTi sityva ar uTqvams

mecnierebis ganviTarebaze, kul-

turasa da kulturul memkvidre-

obaze, radgan kultura misgan

iseve Sorsaa, rogorc “virisgan

pitna”. skolebSi fizika-qimiis

laboratoriebis gaxsnasac dagv-

pirda, ra drosac universtitet-

Si da kvleviT centrebSi arsebu-

li laboratoriebi gaauqma. ase-

Tive crupentelobiT ilayba uax-

lesi teqnologiiT aRWurvili

skolebis gaxsnaze. 1000 skolis

gayidvis, Semdeg, axla 23-is gax-

sna albaT “ didi mamuliSviluri

saqme” hgonia. “iq sadac yofila

codna, yofila dasaqmebac”. (“iq

sadac adre kioda tura, Cven ga-

vaSeneT Cais kultura” ) am

dros, “saqarTvelos codnac

hqonda” da mis moqalaqeebs _ sam-

saxurebic, magram swored “maikl-

ma”, Tavis mosvliT mouspo es

yvelaferi. isev 2015 wlisTvis

bavSvebis 90%-s pirad kompiut-

rebs dahpirda. Turme “codnis

asamaRleblad” Camohyavs ucxoe-

li maswavleblebi da es yofila

“qarTuli enis swavlisTvis da

yvela mSoblis ocneba”. saqarTve-

loSi yvela mSobeli mxolod

imaze ar ocnebobs, rogorme maT

Svilebs “fleTCerisnairi maswav-

lebeli” da 53-e skolis direq-

toris msgavsi _ “lamazi bavSve-

bis moyvaruli dirqtorebi” hyav-

des? “nu geSiniaT, radgan me, ro-

gorc Tqvens mier arCeul or

prezidents, kargad mesmis. ar va-

pireb Cemi moRvaweoba Sevafaso

“eqselis” failebSi Cawerili

cifrebiTo”. ise ar eTmoba prezi-

dentoba, rom ramdenia _ amaSic

veRar erkveva. “aRmaSenebeli” uk-

ve xom iyo. axla SesaZloa “or-

Taviani gveleSeapic” hgonia Tavi.

(fsiqiatriaSi es pirovnebis gao-

rebaa).

“ase dagvaimeda”

kacma, romelmac gaa-

ubedura aTasobiT

adamiani, ZaZebiT Se-

mosa asobiT ded-ma-

ma, gayida qarTuli

miwa-wyali, Caabara

kodoris xeoba da

samaCablos regioni,

qarTul enas, albaT,

pirvelad da imedia

ukanasknelad saqar-

Tvelos istoriaSi

arnaxuli Seurcxa-

yofa miayena. darbaz-

Si mjdom uwmindesi-

sadmi mliqvnelobis

miuxedavad am namusgarecxilsa

da “xalxis did imeds” arc re-

ligiis antisaxelmwifoebrivi ka-

nonis miRebis gamo da arc azize-

is meCeTis qarTveli xalxis une-

barTvod mSeneblobis Tanxmobaze

mouxdia bodiSi. sul “tanze Se-

moixia” soflis meurneobis asay-

vaveblad, romelic “qveynis suli

da guli” rom aris, mas Semdeg

gaaxsenda, rac glexebs 2000 la-

rad vazi aCexvina, “badagonis

Rvino” saqveynod gadaasxa, saxna-

vi miwebi, saZovrebi, tyeebi da

mdinareebi gauyida. saklavze “Co-

Celis monopolia” dauwesa da

ulukmapurod datova. ivaniSvi-

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`vardosnebma~ axali proeqti

SemogvTavazes _`daicavi Seni sax-

li~.

es iTvaliswinebs teritori-

ul-nebayoflobiT rezervSi 5-dRi-

an gaerTianebas. proeqtis saagita-

cio samuSaoebi ukve daiwyo. maT

mTeli qveynis masStabiT gaerTia-

nebuli, specrazmebis xelmZRvane-

li koba axvlediani atarebs. misi

gancxadebiT ukve Catarebulia

300-mde Sexvedra. rogorc Cveni

respodenti giuli abSilava acxa-

debs, erT-erT Sekrebas isic esw-

reboda, zugdidis #1 saSualo

skolaSi, rogorc erT-erTi mos-

wavlis mSobeli.

momxsenebelma axvledianma pa-

suxi ver gasca kiTxvebs, ra rao-

denobiT momzaddeba rezervi yo-

velwliurad, ra raodenobis Tanxa

iqneba saWiro proeqtis gansaxor-

cieleblad da sad iqneba is moZi-

ebuli. pasuxgaucemeli darCa

kiTxvebi, Tu arsebobs `5-dRiani~

rezervis momzadebis koncefcia.

ratom aris es proeqti amovardni-

li `samxedro rezervis Sesaxeb~

arsebul kanonTan. axvledianma ver

Tu ar daakonkreta vin awarmoebs

rezervistebis aRricxvianobas _

Tavdacvis saministro Tu adgi-

lobrivi mmarTvelobiTi organoe-

bi.

samagierod, axvlediani da misi

mobiluri gundi aqtiur zewolas

anxorcieleben sajaro skolebis

direqtorebze, romelTac davale-

buli hqondaT Sexvedras Svileb-

Tan erTad mamebic daswrebodnen.

abSilavas gadmocemiT, axvle-

dianma proeqts qveynis usafrTxo-

ebis gazrdisaken gadadgmuli nabi-

ji uwoda. gamomsvlelis ganmarte-

biT, `5-dRiani~ rezervi nebayof-

lobiTi iqneba. es ki mimarTulia

imisaken. `rom `Cven

vqmniT gasamxedroebul

saxelmwifos~.

axvledianis gamosvla

cudad eniSnaT `mxedrio-

nis gadavlas gamovlil~

zugdidelebs: `rezervga-

movlili adamiani ukeTe-

sad daicavs Tavis quCas,

ubans, qalaqs. rezervis-

tebs, SesaZlebelia, iara-

Ric davurigoT da saxl-

Sic gavatanoT. radganac

maxsendeba is dro, rode-

sac xalxi TofiT Tu

uTofod, SiSveli xele-

biT icavda quCasa da

ubans... yvela ubans davu-

niSneT meTaurebi (xom ar gagonebT

avadmosagonar `saZmoebs~ _ z.b.),

romlebic xalxis mieraa arCeuli

da ara adgilobrivi TviTmmarTve-

lobis mier. `mxedrionis~ Seqmnis

msgavsad xelisuflebas ganzraxu-

li aqvs axvledianis xeliT Seqm-

nas kriminalTa seriozuli gaer-

Tianeba.

_`maT vinc samxedro savalde-

bulo samsaxuris kontraqtebi da-

arRvies, daekisraT jarimebi da

sxvadasxva sanqciebi nebayoflobiT

rezervSi gawevrianebis Semdeg yve-

lafrisagan Tavisufldebian. yvela

im adamians, romelsac aqvs nasamar-

Tleoba an pirobiTi sasjeli, un-

da mieceT saSualeba emsaxuron

samSoblos. (ase iqmneboda patrio-

tuli gasamxedroebuli organiza-

cia `mxedrioni~) 90-iani wlebis

samarTldamcavebi avleben ra para-

lels mxedrionisa da rezerviste-

bis proeqts Soris acxadeben, rom

axvlediani Tavisi gamosvlebiT

adasturebs, rom mas kavSirebi aqvs

yofil sisxlis samarTlis damna-

SaveebTan (`zvidistebTan~, `mxed-

rionelebTan~, `tyis ZmebTan~) aer-

Tianebs maT da xelisuflebis dax-

marebiTa da miTiTebiT Tavis kon-

trolis qveS moqcevas cdilobs.

koba axvlediani mosaxleobas

arwmunebs, rom rezervistebis

`proeqti~ ar aris arCevnebisaTvis

an sabrZolo moqmedebebis wamowye-

bisaTvis SeZenili. es mTeli saqar-

Tvelos mosaxleobis gaerTianebis

ideis matarebelia.

kanonis `sarezervo samsaxuris

gavlis~ gverdis avlas axvlediani

imiT xsnis, rom aqamde arsebulma

sarezervo modelebma (amerikuli,

israelis), ar gaamarTla da saWi-

roa Svedur-finur modelze gadas-

vla. magram amas, rom kanonSi

cvlilebebi sWirdeba, axvlediani-

saTvis mniSvneloba ara aqvs.

ra Sedegs unda velodoT

saqarTvelos konstituciis me-

ToTxmete muxli moiTxovs kanonm-

deblisagan Tanasworobis ZiriTadi

principebis dacvas. kerZod, ar da-

uSvas uTanasworo mopyroba Tanas-

wor mdgomareobaSi myofi pirebis

mimarT. ar miiRos iseTi sakanonm-

deblo aqtebi, romlebic ar iTva-

liswinebs sxvadasxva rwmenis, Se-

xedulebebis da a.S. jgufebs So-

ris arsebul gansxvavebebs da maT

mimarT Tanabar valdebulebebs ad-

gens.

saxalxo damcvelis aparatma

Sesuli gancxadebebis safuZvelze

CaTvala, rom konstituciis am

muxlSi sadaoa norma, romelic ar

iTvaliswinebs gamonaklisebs im

pirTa mimarT, visac religiuri Tu

eTikuri Sexedulebebidan gamomdi-

nare samxedro samsaxuris mimarT

keTilsindisieri winaaRmdegoba ga-

aCniaT. amis gamo ombudsmenma par-

laments sakonstitucio sasamarT-

loSi uCivla da protestic moi-

go. amis Sedegad rwmenisa da fi-

losofiuri mrwamsis Sesabamisad,

adamianma SeiZleba uari Tqvas sam-

xedro-savaldebulo samsaxurze

da saxelmwifo begara alternati-

uli arasamxedro, SromiTi samsa-

xuriT moixados, magram aseTi sa-

xis saqmianoba, samxedrosas aRema-

teba (mag. Tu samxedro samsaxuri

erTwliania, alternatiuli oria-

ni iqneba da a.S) SeRavaTebi exebaT

ieRovelebsa da pacifistebs.

kanonSi Setanilma am cvlile-

bam sazogadoebis sxvadasxva feneb-

Si araerTgvarovani reaqcia gamo-

iwvia.

izo burduli (ori vaJiSvi-

lis deda): `im areul situaciaSi,

rac qveynis SigniT da gareTaa,

Svilebis jarSi gaSveba sariskoa.

ramdenime dRis win mezoblis biWi

Camoasvenes. samxedro nawilSi

sruliad uwyinar situaciaSi mok-

les. samxedroSi wasvla rom kar-

gi iyos, Cveni mTavroba pirvel

rigSi gauSvebda Tavis Svilebs.

TviTon arian namyofni qarTul

jarSi jariskacebad. iseTi damTx-

veuli xelisuflebis xelSi nebis-

mier momentSi omis dawyebaa mosa-

lodneli. jandabas, gaxdnen iaRo-

velebi Tu pacifistebi, oRond vi-

code, rom aqve iqnebian, saRamos

saxlSi movlen da Cemi mezobeli-

viT cinkis kuboTi ar momiyvanen~.

nino SerazadaSvili (fsi-

qologi): `nebismieri sakanonmdeb-

lo cvlilebebis dros gaTvalis-

winebuli unda iyos sazogadoebis

moralur-fsiqologiuri mdgomare-

oba. rodesac garSemo amdeni saf-

rTxeebia, Cveni mosaxleobis didi

nawili gansakuTrebiT axalgazr-

doba am siaxlisaTvis moumzadebe-

lia. warmoidgineT, bavSvs unar-

CvevebSi aswavlian, rom sazogado-

ebriv transportSi ar unda dauT-

mos adgili xanSiSesuls, fexmZi-

mes, radganac axalgazrdas bileTi

aqvs nayidi, rodesac yvela da yve-

laferi TviTgadarCenisakenaa mi-

marTuli da amis cud magaliTs

Tavad xelisuflebac iZleva, Zne-

lia vinmes zeamaRlebul grZnobeb-

ze esaubro. mimaCnia, rom kanoni

zogadsakacobrioa, magram naadre-

via~.

givi kavTelaZe (istoriko-

si): `saqarTvelos mosaxleoba sa-

ukuneebis manZilze Znelbedobas

erTad ebrZoda, ganurCevlad erov-

nebisa da aRmsareblobisa. yoveli

dampyroblis upirvelesi mizani

Cveni qveynis erovnuli da sarwmu-

noebis niSniT dayofa-danawevreba

iyo. XVIII-XIX s.s.-Si

iyo msgavsi: qarTul

erovnebasa da sarwmu-

noebaze uarismTqmelT

mraval SeRavaTs uwe-

sebdnen. Sedegad qarTu-

li deda-eklesia da-

sustda, qarTveloba ga-

dajiSda. dRes TandaTa-

nobiT xdeba qarTvelo-

basa da marTalsarwmu-

noebisadmi mobruneba.

warsulSi daSvebuli

uamravi Secdomis Se-

degs dRes mwared vim-

kiT. Cemi azriT, Seta-

nili cvlileba, ufro

Sorsmimavali Canafiq-

ris erT-erTi komponenti unda

iyos, vidre naCqarevad gadadgmuli

saerTaSoriso standartebis Sesa-

bamisi nabiji~.

giorgi bocvaZe (qarTuli

marTlmadidebluri eklesiis mrev-

li): `ieRovelebisaTvis samxedro-

savaldebulo samsaxurze SeRava-

Tebis daweseba pirdapiraa

mimarTuli marTlmadidebluri ek-

lesiis winaaRmdeg. es seqta (ieRo-

velebis) sakmao Tanxebs flobs.

wlebia ibrZvis qarTuli marTlma-

didebluri eklesiis dasustebi-

saTvis. fuliT cdilobs Cveni

axalgazrdobis gadabirebas. exla

ki moRalate da jvar-eklesiis

mgmobeli xelisuflebis mfarve-

lobiT Setevaze gadavida. ieRove-

lebs, rogorc aratradiciuli

konfensiis mimdevarT, zogierT

qveynebSi sdevnian, CvenTan ki SeRa-

vaTebs uweseben~.

zaza bilixoZe

xelfasebis axali proeqti, vis ra meTodebiT ebrZvis

xelisufleba _ `mxedrioni~ brundeba

torebs nacionalebis momxre-

obis mixedviT rom iZleoda,

eg ar iyo? javaxeTSi nanaxi

“didmosavliani holandiuri

TesliT” ki Tavisi Svilebi

kvebos. isini ufro kargad mo-

ineleben holandiurs, vidre

qarTveli bavSvebi. ojaxis

wevrebis biznesiT Semotanili

holandiuri yvavilebic misT-

vis dagviTmia. Zalian myrali

suni aqvs da Tavs gvatkivebs.

”yvelgan kulturebi gvaqvs

gamosacvleli da es saxelm-

wifos gareSe ar gakeTdebao”.

ra Tqma unda, aba, qarTuli

kulturebis gadajiSebas “ga-

dajiSebuli xelisuflebis”

garda, sxva vin iTavebs? mag-

ram ver moaswreb, Cemo miSi-

ko, qarTulis gadajiSebas. “

Seni qviSis saaTi ukve gad-

mobrunebulia” da swrafi

tempebiT icleba. dapirebuli

aseuli traqtorisa da misab-

meli agregatis nacvlad, er-

Ti paravozi rom iyido, ro-

melsac mTels “nacmoZraobas”

Caabam da “kudigoris, an de-

pos gzas” gauyvebiT, ukeTesi

iqneba. swored miSikosgan

“ararsebulad gamocxadebu-

li”, ralurad ki saqarTve-

loSi arsebuli Zveli jan-

dacviT ar daudgines saakaS-

vils is diagnozi, romelsac

misi ojaxi dRemde sagulda-

gulod malavs? Tavis gaxs-

nil “axal saavadmyofoebSi”

ki eliCka TevdoraZis siyvebis

miuxedavad: “yvelani karga

xnis gamokvlevebulebi var-

To”, nacionalebidan bevrs,

2012 wlis oqtomberSi, dawo-

la albaT, mainc mouwevT. So-

badobac amas aumaRlebia!

“patriarqic (CvenTan erTa-

do!) mudmivad axsenebs qarT-

velebs, rom unda gamravldne-

no”. 2012 wlis jandacvis

xelmisawvdomobis wlad ga-

mocxadeba, winasaarCevnod, sa-

akaSvilisgan 2,5 000 000

adamianis mosyidvis wels gu-

lisxmobda. “putilovis qar-

xanaSi gamosuli leniniviT”,

bolSevik-komunisturi paTo-

siT gvesaubra “nepsa da eleq-

trofikaciaze”, romelsac na-

xevari saqarTvelos ekologia

unda Seewiros. “gaRletil

merabiSvilze” saubari ki

“momsaxureobis aridan sruli

gasvla iyo”. “ukan SeZromas

rom cdiloben xelisufleba-

Si, im korumpirebuli Cinov-

nikebis umTavresi saqme narko-

tikebi rom iyo”, esec albaT

ise unda gavigoT, rom es ka-

ci isev opoziciaSi gadadis

da sakuTari gundis wevrebs

daereva. imitom, rom narkoti-

kebs “gaRletilebis” nebarT-

vis gareSe saqarTveloSi ve-

ravin Semoitans da gayidis.

“viRacm mxardaWera Tu ga-

mogvicxada, boRmiT ixrCobian.

. . pirvelad aTaswleulebis

ganmavlobaSi. . . ixrCoba jav-

risgan. es ver “mounalebia”

saqarTvelos mters” saqarTve-

los Senze didi mteri dRes

vina hyavs, Cemo maikl? “yuris

awevis” Semdeg ruseTTan savi-

zo reJimis gamartivebazec

gvesaubra. putinis gapreziden-

tebis Semdeg ki sanam “danapi-

rebs moaWrides”, grimsa pa-

rikSi gamowyobili saakaSvi-

lic, romelic “enas waiWris”,

male SeiZleba vixiloT. es

rom ivaniSvils eTqva, ra gni-

ass atexdnen “neobolSeviki

nacebi” Tu warmogidgeniaT?

magram umTavresi mizani ru-

seTTan sazRvrebis gamartive-

bis SeTavazebisa, is aris, rom

“ormag agent nacional bi-

Webs” kagebeSnik bosebTan Cas-

vla da patakebis Cabareba mo-

enatraT. “cereusTan” isedac

uproblemod Cadian. “SarSan-

deliviT, meore ki ar iqneba,

aramed yvelas gauswrebs,

msoflioSi pirvel adgilze

iqneba planetaze”. vai, ubedu-

ro saqarTvelov, amis xelSi!!!

rogorc xedavT, saakaSvilma

cxonebul frunzik mkrtCianis

gmirsac gadauswro, da ara

pirvelad erevanSi, sanfran-

ciskoSi, an saqarTveloSi,

aramed ukve msoflio da pla-

netarul masStabebsac gadasw-

vda da male galaqtikaSc gaW-

reba. aSkaaraa, rom saakaSvils

ivaniSvilis gamoCenam, fsiqi-

urTan erTad iseTi politiku-

ri problemebic Seuqmna, rom

8 wlis ganmavlobaSi pirve-

lad ixmara sityva “samSob-

lo”. oRond am sityvis xmare-

bisas SepyrobilisTvis “ufa-

lo Semiwyales” msagavsad

sityvebi aebna da ufro aner-

viulda. is marSrutic dagvi-

saxa, rac Turme “erTaderTi

yofila, romelsac ar unda

gadavuxvioT da erTad unda

gaviaroT”. “am marSrutiT”

tarebam qveyana ufskrulSi

gadaCexa. am gziT arc manamde

mivlia da arc momavalSi vapi-

reb siaruls, radgan “saakaS-

vilis gza” saqarTvelos taZ-

ramde arasdros miiyvans.

P.S. aamm ggaammoossvvllaamm,, ffiillmmii

““SSeexxvveeddrraa wwaarrssuullTTaann ggaammaaxxssee-

nnaa””.. lleeiillaa aabbaaSSiiZZiiss ssiittyyvveebbii::

““ssiikkvvddiillii mmoovviiddaa ggooggiiaaoo””.. ssaa-

aakkaaSSvviilliiss yyoovveellii ffrraazzaa- ““bbii-

ZZiinnaa mmoovviiddaa mmiiSSiikkoooo..

baia amaSukeli

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18 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

sakuTar ekonomikur xedveb-

ze, devnilebis problemebsa da

moqalaqeTa socialur mdgoma-

reobaze, moZalade policie-

lebsa da arCevnebis gamyalbeb-

lebze, sakuTar politikur

gegmebsa da saqarTvelos pers-

peqtivebze, aqamde ucnobi ra-

kursiT, eqskluziurad

tspress.ge-ss mkiTxvelisTvis.

Cvens kiTxvebs pasuxobs „qar-

Tuli ocnebis“lideri, biZina

ivaniSvili:

- batono biZina, romeli

mediasaSualebebidan axerxebT

samegrelos Sesaxeb informa-

ciis miRebas?

- mediasaSualebebis gac-

nobas, ZiriTadad, vaxerxeb me-

diamonitoringis samsaxuris

mier mowodebuli masalebidan.

rac Seexeba samegrelos, aq

gansakuTrebul deficits

vgrZnob obieqturi mediis

TvalsazrisiT. samegrelos

regioni, Tavisufali mediis

mxriv, yvelaze metad aris

SezRuduli. es Zalian samwu-

xaroa.

es problema axlo moma-

valSi, Cveni xelisuflebaSi

mosvlisTanave, unda gamovas-

woroT. axlac unda Seveca-

doT, samegrelos regioni ar-

Cevnebis periodSi rogorme

gavaaqtiuroT, raTa mediaga-

mocemebi ar ganicdidnen cen-

zuras, mosaxleobam obieqtu-

ri informaciis miReba moa-

xerxos da kargad informire-

buli arCevanis gakeTeba SeZ-

los.

- ukve ramdenime Tvea,

politikaSi xarT. ra gansxva-

vebaa biznesmen ivaniSvilsa da

politikos ivaniSvils So-

ris?

- biznessa da politikas

Soris bevri ram aris saer-

To. orives sWirdeba kadrebis

sworad SerCeva, swori menej-

menti, riskebis sworad gaT-

vla, drouli reagireba. rac

saerTo ar aris maT Soris, es

sajaroobaa. gagimxelT da

getyviT, rom es Cemi samuSa-

os is nawilia, romelTanac

Segueba gamiWirda, Tumca, po-

litikaSi yofna bunebrivad

gulisxmobs sajaroobas. gar-

kveuli drois Semdeg, cxov-

rebis am wessac SeveCvie.

-arCevnebis Tema dRes Za-

lian aqtualuria. praqtiku-

lad, ukve varT saarCevno re-

JimSi, xelisufleba ukve uam-

rav winasaarCeno RonisZiebas

gvTavazobs...amasTan, gamkacrda

partiebis dafinansebis kanoni,

araa dazustebuli siebi, xe-

lisuflebas Tavad xeli mi-

uwvdeba administraciul re-

sursze, akontrolebs sam na-

cionalur arxs da a.S. ras

daupirispirebT am yvelafers

da gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi,

ra Sedegi CaiTvleba TqvenT-

vis damakmayofilebel Sede-

gad?

- arCevnebSi gamarjvebad

miviCnevT damajerebel gamar-

jvebas da ara 1-22%-iiT meti

adgilis mopovebas. Cven, koa-

licia arCevnebSi unda avcdeT

2/3-ss. am usamarTlo da uTa-

nasworo saarCevno garemoSi

es rTulia, magram SesaZlebe-

li. yvelafers gavakeTebT imi-

saTvis, rom damajerebel ga-

marjvebas mivaRwioT.

rac Seexeba xelisuflebis

mier dawyebul winasaarCevno

agitacias, administraciuli

resursebis gamoyenebas, pro-

saxelisuflebo nacionalur

televiziebsa da mis sxva upi-

ratesobebs, Cven amas martivi

wesiT davabalansebT - xeli-

suflebis realur saxes dRes

Cveni mosaxleoba Zalian kar-

gad xedavs. gasagebia is Ziri-

Tadi meTodi, riTac isini

arCevnebis mogebas apireben:

esaa sicrue, Zaladoba da uka-

nonoba. saarCevno garemos ga-

sajansaReblad saWiroa, ada-

mianebs hqondeT informirebu-

li arCevanis gakeTebis saSua-

leba. am dros arsebobs in-

formaciis simwire, gansakuT-

rebiT - regionebSi. Cven

viwyebT am problemis gamos-

worebaze muSaobas da fosta-

lionebis institutis aRdgena

rom dagvWirdes kidec, TiTo-

eul mosaxlemde obieqturi

informaciis mitanas mainc mo-

vaxerxebT.

rac mTavaria, Cven gvaqvs

amisaTvis sxvadasxva meqanizmi,

sxvadasxva gaTvla. mxedvelo-

baSi maqvs im SezRudvebis ga-

neitraleba, rasac administ-

raciuli da sxva ukanono re-

sursebiT xelisufleba axer-

xebs. sabaJoze gvifuWeben apa-

raturas. „maestros“ - praq-

tikulad, erTaderT sainfor-

macio saSualebas, romelic

mTel saqarTveloze Tanamg-

zavris saSualebiT mauwyeb-

lobda, daumtvries gadamcemi

aparatura.

regionebis mosaxleoba

praqtikulad veRar iRebs

obieqtur informacias. faq-

tobrivad, muSaobs sami saxe-

lisuflebo televizia, Tu

mxedvelobaSi ar miviRebT pa-

tara arxebs, romlebic didi

wnexis qveS arseboben. mxed-

velobaSi maqvs regionuli

televiziebi: 25-e arxi baTum-

Si da „TrialeTi“ _ qarTl-

Si. gvaqvs aseve gazeTi „qar-

Tuli ocneba“, romelic moa-

xerxebs sazogadoebis infor-

mirebas.

- vfiqrob, rom yvelaze

didi moTxovna dRes aris pi-

radad TqvenTan Sexvedraze.

mosaxleobas surs, Tavad Sex-

vdes biZina ivaniSvils da da-

elaparakos. CaxvalT Tu ara

regionebSi da rodis?

- ra Tqma unda, amas auci-

leblad gavakeTebT. xalxTan

Sexvedrasac organizeba da

momzadeba sWirdeba. me koali-

ciis prezentaciaze ganvacxa-

de, rom martis bolomde mova-

xerxebT partiuli struqtu-

rebis Camoyalibebas. 1 aprili-

dan gavaqtiurdebiT: me da Ce-

mi kolegebi gavalT yvela re-

gionSi imdenjer, ramdenjerac

es saWiro iqneba da mosaxle-

obis problemebs uSualod ga-

vecnobiT.

- sazogadoebis erTi nawi-

li fiqrobs, rom Tqveni gun-

dis politikuri gaaqtiureba

Wianurdeba.

- ver dageTanxmebiT. inten-

siurad vmuSaobT. aris raRac,

rac zedapirze ar Cans, magram

saWiroa Sexvedrebi politi-

kur istebliSmentTan, ucxo-

el partniorebTan. mogexsene-

baT, rom xalxi SeSinebulia,

aris Zalian didi zewola.

bevr adamians naTesavi hyavs

daWerili da pirobiT gaTavi-

suflebuli. maT surT CvenTan

TanamSromloba, magram Riad

gamoCenas eridebian.

xelisuflebas mravali me-

qanizmi aqvs Cadebuli imisT-

vis, rom xalxi rogorme ar

gaaqtiurdes. Tumca, isini ver

iTvaliswineben mTavars: ar

ician qarTveli kacis xasiaTi,

romelic mebrZoli da Tavi-

suflebis maZebaria. xelisuf-

leba, didi Zaladobisa da wi-

naaRmdegobis miuxedavad, ra

Tqma unda, ver moaxerxebs,

brZolisa da gamarjvebis su-

rvili dagvikargos. Cven vvi-

TardebiT, Tumca, xelovnuri

problemebis gamo vkargavT

imaze cota met dros, vidre

normalur situaciaSi davkar-

gavdiT.

uamrav problemas xelov-

nurad gviqmnian. gansakuTre-

biT, es igrZnoba regionuli

ofisebis gaxsnisas. kacs dai-

Tanxmeb, ofiss daiqiraveb,

iwyeb muSaobas. mere amas Se-

ityobs xelisufleba da meo-

re dResve xorcieldeba am

adamianze zewola. Sedegad,

Zalian xSirad, isini uars am-

boben Cvens StabSi muSaobasa

Tu ofisis gaqiravebaze.

- aseT adamianebTan Semd-

gom rogori damokidebuleba

gaqvT: Tu xvdebiT an Tu

uwevT raime saxis iuridiul

daxmarebas? ras upirispirebT

xelisuflebis Zaladobas am

etapze, radgan es adamianebi

marTla Zalian dazaralebuli

arian.

- dRes Cven ver vaxerxebT,

saqarTvelos mosaxleobis

idealurad dacvas. magram es

nabij-nabij gasakeTebeli saq-

mea. TandaTanobiT vgegmavT sa-

zogadoebis gaaqtiurebasa da

SiSisgan gaTavisuflebas.

survilis miuxedavad, yvela

nabijis Sesaxeb detalurad

ver mogiyvebiT, radgan zogi

ram saidumlo Canafiqricaa.

magram es moxdeba droulad.

aprilidan, Cveni mobilizeba

TvalSisacemi iqneba. zedmeti

gaaqtiureba, SeiZleba dRes

saWiro arc iyos, radgan am

etapze Zalian agresiulia xe-

lisufleba. es ki, upirvele-

sad, Cvens momxreebs daazara-

lebs. amas maqsimalurad veri-

debiT.

- Tqven zedmetad ar aq-

tiurobT, magram absolutu-

rad sxva suraTia xelisuf-

lebaSi, romelic hiperaqtiu-

ria...

- diax, hiperaqtiuri pre-

zidenti gvyavs... Cemi azriT,

cota isteriulad darbis.

Tumca, sirbiliT bevrs vera-

fers moipovebs. yvelam icis

ukve, rom masTan Sexedraze

xalxi avtobusebiT dahyavT;

yvelam icis, rom zogierT Se-

nobas, sxvadasxva dros, sami

mxridan xsnis. gaugebaria, vis-

Tvis da risTvis akeTebs amas.

albaT, TviTonve uxaria es,

moswons da ver Cerdeba, ver

isvenebs... aqvs iluzia, rom ka-

xeTidan imereTs moatyuebs,

imereTidan - samegrelos, sa-

erTo jamSi, Seqmnis iluzias,

rom is aRmaSenebeli preziden-

tia. Tumca, ZiriTadi aqcenti

mainc gakeTebuli aqvs ara

Tundac moCvenebiT aRmSeneb-

lobaze, aramed isev daSineba-

ze, Zaladobasa da gayalbebaze

da hgonia, rom am manipulire-

biT moaxerxebs arCevnebis mo-

gebas. magram garwmunebT, rom

araferi gamouva. es myife sis-

tema daimsxvreva da yvelafers

daerqmeva sakuTari saxeli.

biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:

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19saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

- radgan prezidenti ax-

seneT, iqneb, masze visaubroT.

ra migaCniaT mis yvelaze di-

di marcxad da yvelaze didi

miRwevad moRvaweobis manZil-

ze?

- vfiqrob, rom yvelaze

kargad rac iswavla am xeli-

suflebam (rasac misi wina-

morbedi ver axerxebda), aris

is, Tu rogor moagrovon fu-

li. es procesi daiwyo saba-

Joebidan da axla yvela moqa-

laqis jibeSi Zvrebian. ician,

vis ramdeni aqvs jibeSi da

amis mixedviT amyareben masTan

urTierTobas. es, naxevrad-

xumrobiT, ra Tqma unda...

yvelaze didi miRweva,

riTac dResac trabaxoben,

isaa, rom eleqtroenergia

gvaqvs. imaze aRar saubroben,

rom am dens saqarTvelos mo-

saxleoba evropaSi, mgoni,

yvelaze Zvirad yidulobs. sa-

ocaria, ra meqanizmiT miabes

moxmarebuli eleqtroenergi-

is safasurs nagvis gadasaxa-

di. prezidenti imiT traba-

xobs, rom dabnelebuli qveya-

na gaanaTes. Tuki kargad gava-

analizebT, Cveni qveynis moqa-

laqeebs, maTi Semosavlebis

fonze, es ra daujdaT da ra

ujdebaT, mivxvdebiT, rom

esaa katastrofa. aseTi Zviri

eleqtroenergia, bevri mize-

zis gamo, maT Soris - imis

gamoc, rom misi gamomuSave-

bis udidesi nawili hidrore-

sursebze modis, saqarTvelo-

Si ar unda Rirdes.

rac Seexeba realur miR-

wevas, rasac me qarTveli

xalxis da ara - xelisufle-

bis miRwevad miviCnev, poli-

ciaSi, qveda doneze korufci-

is damarcxebaa. amas aucileb-

lad aRvniSnav xolme ucxoel

JurnalistebTanac, raTa xazi

gavusva qarTveli xalxis

kulturas _ rogor moaxerxa

aTi aTasobiT qarTvelma po-

licielma, ase swrafad, uari

eTqva korufciaze.

magram es saakaSvilis dam-

saxureba ar aris. raRac etap-

ze, mas amas miRwevad mec vuT-

vlidi, magram es ar aris gan-

sakuTrebuli menejmentis Se-

degi. Tumca, merabiSvili cu-

di menejeri ar aris (es ram-

denjerme miTqvams), magram am

TvalsazrisiT, is gamorCeuli

ar aris. es pozitiuri Sede-

gi (ase mcire droSi) mxo-

lod qarTveli xalxis kul-

turis gansakuTrebulobas Se-

iZleba davukavSiroT.

Tumca, es miRweva gadafa-

ra im garemoebam, rom dRevan-

deli policia mTlianad po-

litizirebulia da praqtiku-

lad, mxolod erTi kacis

dakveTas emsaxureba. me isev

vaqeb aTiaTasobiT qarTvels,

romelic dRes policiaSi

msaxurobs. isini patiosani

adamianebi arian, magram erTi

kacis Zaladobis gamo ver

axerxeben, Rirseulad Seas-

rulon TavianTi movaleoba,

emsaxuron sazogadoebas, xa-

lxs da ara - xelisuflebas.

maTac xSirad uwevT kanonsa-

winaaRmdego qmedebis Cadena,

Tumca amis survili maT abso-

lutur umravlesobas ar ga-

aCnia.

rac Seexeba meore warma-

tebul reformas, es iyo ga-

naTlebis reformis nawili.

mTlianad, ganaTlebis sfero-

Si katastrofuli mdgomareo-

baa - iseve, rogorc dRes sa-

qarTveloSi, nebismier darg-

Sia. magram misaRebi gamocde-

bis sistema, romelic mudmivi

sircxvili iyo Cveni mosaxle-

obisTvis, Seicvala. am sfero-

Sic, rogorc ki xelisufle-

bam raRac pozitiuri Sedegi

miiRo, Zalian male, mosaxle-

obamac gamoxata, aseve, pozi-

tiuri damokidebuleba. gamo-

dis, rom rogorc ki xeli-

sufleba swori gzis Cvenebas

Seecdeba, saqarTvelos mosax-

leobas aqvs Zalian didi mza-

oba reformebisa da samarT-

lianobis mimarT. Tumca, ro-

gorc vici, dRes am warmate-

buli reformis saerTod ga-

uqmebas apireben.

warumateblobebis Camo-

saTvlelad ki, albaT, erTi

dRe ar gveyofa. pirvel rig-

Si, saakaSvilis udieri da ga-

uazrebeli qceviT dakarguli

teritoriebi unda gavixse-

noT, xelisuflebis kont-

rolqveS arsebuli sasamarT-

lo, media. yvelaze cudi ki

isaa, rom dRes saakaSvili

mzadaa, gaxdes absoluturi

diqtatori, oRond mas ara

aqvs amis resursebi.

- saakaSvilma policiis

reforma masobrivi gaTavisuf-

lebebiT daiwyo. Tqven saub-

robT policielebis politi-

zirebaze, rac migaCniaT am

sferos seriozul naklad.

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis

SeTxvevaSi, daiTxovT Tu ara

policielebs, anu ra bedi

eliT vano merabiSvilis po-

licielebs?

- visaubreb ara mxolod

policielebze, aramed sajaro

moxeleebzec. sul ramdenime

dRe dasWirdeba da policiam,

iseve, rogorc swrafad Tqva

uari korufciaze, swrafad

ityvis uars politikuri dak-

veTebis Seasrulebaze da

swrafad Cadgeba kanonierebis

samsaxurSi. es reforma, Tavis

droze, xelisuflebam didi

tkivilebis xarjze, araswo-

rad Caatara - Zalian bevri

profesionali absoluturad

daumsaxureblad gaaZeves sam-

saxuridan. isev minda, xazi

gavusva qarTveli xalxis

kulturasa da maRal zneobas:

maT moaxerxes, swori pozici-

is daeWiraT.

xelisuflebaSi Cveni

mosvlis Semdeg, sajaro moxe-

leebis absoluturi umravle-

soba SeinarCunebs samuSao ad-

gilebs. ufro mets getyviT -

arsebuli xelisuflebis dar-

Cenis SemTxvevaSi, maT samuSa-

os dakargvis safrTxe emuqre-

baT, vinaidan marTvis aseTi

meTodebiT xelisufleba Za-

lian male veRar SeZlebs am-

deni sajaro moxelis Senax-

vas. rom ara Cveni gundi da

Cveni Semosvla politikaSi,

sul male isini am xalxs

xelfasebs ver gadauxdian. me

ar mjera maT mier oficialu-

rad warmodgenili cifrebis.

vici, rogori biujeti dagvx-

vdeba Cven - absoluturad

dangreuli da ganadgurebuli.

darwmunebuli var, Cven rom

ar movideT politikaSi, maq-

simum, kidev erTi wlis gan-

mavlobaSi Tu moaxerxeben am

raodenobis sajaro moxelis

Senaxvas.

sajaro moxeleebs minda,

Sevaxseno: nu aqvT imis SiSi.

xelisuflebaSi Cveni mosvlis

Sedegad, isini samuSao adgi-

lebs ar dakargaven. piriqiT,

Cveni mosvlis Semdeg, maT ga-

uCndebaT safuZveli, araTu

SeinarCunon, aramed gaiumjo-

beson mdgomareoba. swori po-

litikis gatarebis pirobebSi,

maTi saxelfaso ganakveTebic

gaizrdeba. es SeexebaT poli-

cielebsac da sxva sajaro

moxeleebsac.

- Tu gaqvT gadawyvetili,

vin iqnebian Tqveni koalicii-

dan prezidentobis, premier-

ministrobisa da parlamentis

Tavmjdomareobis kandidate-

bi?

- SemiZlia, ganvacxado,

rom premier-ministri viqnebi

me. es gadawyvetilia da es

ician Cemma kolegebma da gun-

dis wevrebmac. rac Seexeba

sxva Tanamdebobebs, me vfiq-

rob, amis gacxadeba jer naad-

revia. yvelaferi Tavis droze

gairkveva.

- Tqvens gundSi arian Se-

vardnaZis saxeebi. aseve aris

mosazrebac, rom Tqvens gund-

Si ar arian dasavleTSi ga-

naTlebamiRebuli adamianebi.

garkveulwilad xom ar moqme-

debs es Tqveni gundis reitin-

gze da xom ar gikargavT mom-

xreebs?

- rac Seexeba SevardnaZis

gundis wevrebs, tleviziebi

Zalian xSirad saubroben Te-

do jafariZesTan dakavSire-

biT. mimaCnia, rom Tuki Cveni

axali partiis nebismier

wevrs cal-calke ganvixi-

lavT, isini umaRlesi klasis

profesionalebi arian.

piriqiT, kargia, roca

adamians gamocdileba aqvs.

Cveni gundis wevrTa ZiriTa-

di maxasiaTebeli, profesio-

nalizmis garda, principu-

lobaa. CvenTan axali saxeebic

arian: magaliTad, irakli Ra-

ribaSvili safrangeTSi, sor-

bonis universitetSi swav-

lobda. aseve, daviTaSvili

gaxlavT atlantis universi-

tetis profesori. vcdilobT,

axali saxeebic gvyavdes da

Zveli, gamocdili saxeebic.

Cvens gundSi aravinaa da arc

momavalSi iqneba iseTi adami-

ani, visac warsulidan gamo-

yolili seriozuli Secdo-

ma amZimebs.

- Tqvens adrindel gamos-

vlebSi aRniSnavdiT, rom aR-

mofxvridiT umuSevrobis pr-

oblemas. konkretulad ra na-

bijebs gadadgamT amisaTvis?

- umuSevrobis mizezi is

politikaa, romelsac dRevan-

deli xelisufleba axorcie-

lebs. esaa monopoliuri biz-

nesis arseboba, romelsac xe-

lisufleba mfarvelobs da

romelic maRal fasebs gana-

pirobebs. es aris magaliTi

imisa, Tu rogori ar unda

iyos ekonomika; miuTiTebs

imaze, Tu ra SemTxvevaSia mo-

salodneli didi umuSevroba

da ekonomikis ngreva.

pirvel rigSi, kanoniere-

ba da marTlmsajuleba unda

aRdges, media da biznesi unda

gaTavisufldes saxelmwifo

Carevisa da monopolizebisgan.

swori ekonomikuri kanonebiT

realuradaa SesaZlebeli, Se-

iqmnas saintereso sainvesti-

cio garemo, Caidos fuli sa-

qarTvelos ekonomikaSi, gaix-

snas axali sawarmoebi, Seiqm-

nas axali samuSao adgilebi

da a.S.

- saxelmwifo xom ver

Seqmnis axal sawarmoebs, ro-

gor warmogidgeniaT amis ga-

keTeba?

- ra Tqma unda, es ar

aris saxelmwifos saqme. amas

fiqrobs saakaSvili mudmivad

- rom TiTqos man unda gaxs-

nas obieqtebi; darbis, mudam

amiT amayobs da TviTon mii-

wers, rom is xsnis sawarmo-

ebs Tu samedicino dawesebu-

lebebs. es ar aris xelisufa-

lis, sajaro moxelis saqme.

maTi saqmea, Seqmnan realuri

garemo biznesisaTvis da kano-

niereba aRdges qveyanaSi. yve-

laze cudi, rac angrevs da

realurad, perspeqtivas ukar-

gavs bizness, aris is, rom

saxelmwifo Cinovniki da, maT

Soris, prezidenti kerZo biz-

nesSi ereva. antimonopoliuri

samsaxuri realurad unda mu-

Saobdes.

dRes, biznesi mTlianad

monopolizebulia da marTu-

lia saxelmwifos mier - igi

saocar wnexs ganicdis. SemiZ-

lia Zalian kargi magaliTi

mogiyvanoT, razec dRes el-

CebTan Sexvedrazec visaubre:

iciT, rogori ukanonoba Cai-

dines „qarTu bankis“ winaaRm-

deg. bankebze policiuri ze-

damxedvelobis TvalsazrisiT,

iseTi kanoni SemoiRes, rom

aseT pirobebSi bankebis arse-

boba SeuZlebelia. miuxedavad

amisa, rodesac Cven komerciu-

li bankebis asociacia moviw-

vieT, warmoidgineT, rom Sek-

rebaze arc erTi bankis war-

momadgeneli ar movida. imde-

nad daSantaJebuli, daSinebu-

lia da marTulia biznesi,

rom Sekrebaze mosvla verc

erTma komerciulma bankma ver

gabeda. arada, am kanoniT ne-

bismieri banki SeuZliaT,

xval da zeg gaakotron. aq

ramdenime adamianis mier imar-

Teba yvelaferi.

prokuror adeiSvils aqvs

Seqmnili raRac monitoringis

jgufi, romelic akontro-

lebs nebismier gadaricxvas

da realurad, yvela bizness.

aseTia sinamdvile: saqarTve-

loSi biznesebis marTvas pro-

kurori axorcielebs. sruli

pasuxismgeblobiT vambob, rom

am pirobebSi verc biznesi

ganviTardeba da verc samuSao

adgilebi Seiqmneba.

- mainc romeli gadasaxadi

migaCniaT yvelaze usamarT-

lod?

- gadasaxadebis daxvewa da

daregulireba yvelaze marti-

vi procesia. mTavari isaa,

rom xalxs ara aqvs Semosava-

li da nebismieri, didi Tu pa-

tara gadasaxadi, dRes ukve

problemaa saqarTvelos mo-

saxleobisTvis. yvelaze did

gadasaxadebs, dRes, saproce-

so garigebebis gziT krefen.

swored amis gamo moxda mo-

saxleobis masobrivi gakot-

reba. dRes yvelanairi biznesi

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ganuzomel zewolas ganicdis.

sagadasaxado wnexis daregu-

lireba iqneba Zalian martivi;

mTavari is aris, rom biznes-

Si xelisuflebis Careva ar

unda xdebodes da samarTlia-

ni kanonebi unda iyos. bizness

ganviTarebisTvis maqsimaluri

pirobebi unda SevuqmnaT. sa-

Wiroa Zalian dabalganakveTi-

ani an uprocento sesxebis ga-

cema wvrili da saSualo biz-

nesisTvis da a. S.

- monopoliebis daSlas

rogor apirebT? saxelmwifom

ra unda gaakeTos amisaTvis?

Tavis droze, am xelisufle-

basac TiTqos hqonda amis mc-

deloba, magram, rogorc aR-

moCnda, ver ganaxorcieles...

- am xelisuflebas, piri-

qiT, hqonda monopoliebis

Seqmnis mcdeloba da Seqmnes

kidec. antimonopoliuri sam-

saxuri - absoluturad Senge-

bulad - saerTod gaauqmes.

dRevandel sakanonmdeblo ba-

zaSi bevri araferia Sesacv-

leli; misi Sesrulebis neba

unda arsebobdes. antimonopo-

liuri samsaxuri realurad

unda muSaobdes. kanoni unda

kanonobdes. monopoliuri

biznesis, ase vTqvaT, „Wkuaze

moyvana“, konkurentuli gare-

mos Seqmnas SeuZlia.

- gasagebia, rom mxars gi-

WerT sazogadoebis opozici-

urad ganwyobili nawili, mag-

ram Tu gaviTvaliswinebT im

faqts, rom nacmoZraoba jer

araa gakotrebuli partia da

mas yavs garkveuli raodeno-

bis amomrCeveli, riTi api-

rebT misi momxreebis gadmobi-

rebas, ras SesTavazebT maT an

ras gaakeTebT iseTs, rom ma-

Ti mxardaWera moipovoT?

- saqarTvelos mosaxleo-

bis daaxloebiT 1/3 aris

mkveTrad opoziciurad gan-

wyobili eleqtorati. me rom

ar viyo kidec, romelime opo-

ziciur Zalas is mxars mainc

dauWers. 1/3 gaxlavT xeli-

suflebaSi dasaqmebuli da

daSinebuli amomrCeveli. ar-

sebobs azri, rom es adamiane-

bi mxars uWeren xelisufle-

bas, 1/3 ki ver, an - ar bedavs

poziciis gamoxatvas. dRes sa-

qarTveloSi Zalian cota Tu

darCa, romelic realobas ver

acnobierebs. am xelisuflebis

sapirispirod, Cven maT vTava-

zobT: sicruis nacvlad - si-

marTlesa da kanonierebas. xe-

lisuflebis ukanonobasa da

Zaladobas vupirispirebT ka-

nonierebas, Tavisuflebasa da

perspeqtivas.

Cven arc Tu ise bevri

gvaqvs gasakeTebeli. arc Tu

ise didi gmiroba sWirdebaT

amomrCevlebs. Cven maTgan ar

viTxovT raime msxverpls, wi-

naswar poziciis gamoxatvas.

ubralod, isini unda gamovid-

nen saarCevno ubanSi da moxa-

zuli biuleteni Caagdon sa-

arCevno yuTSi. es ar aris di-

di gmiroba, Cven amas movaxer-

xebT. ra Tqma unda, imas, rom

maT daijeron Cveni upirate-

soba da is, rom ukeTes moma-

vals vTavazobT, sWirdeba mu-

Saoba.

ar arian qarTvelebi aseTi

mSiSrebi, rogoric saakaS-

vils hgonia. mas hgonia, rom

sazogadoebis daSinebuli na-

wili ar gamova saxlebidan da

mis magivrad, Tavad miscemen

xmas. aseTi didi istoriis

mqone qarTvelebi arc iseTi

mSiSrebi varT, rom arCevnebis

dRes saxlebidan gamosvla

ver movaxerxoT.

- samegreloSi bevri dev-

nili cxovrobs, romlebic

araadamianuri meTodebiT gaa-

saxles Tbilisidan. maT ras

hpirdebiT?

- isini msxverplni arian

im didi usamarTlobis, rac

Cvens qveyanaSi xdeba. maT uam-

ravi gaWirveba da piradi

tragedia gadaitanes. erT ra-

mes Sevpirdebi Cvens devni-

lebs: individualurad ganvi-

xilavT yvela devnilis sa-

kiTxs da maTi survilisa da

Cveni SesaZleblobebis maqsi-

maluri gaTvaliswinebiT mo-

vaxerxebT maTTvis adamianuri

cxovrebis pirobebis Seqmnas.

CvenTvis mTavari adamiani da

masze dafuZnebuli faseulo-

bebia.

- Tqveni oponentebi mud-

mivad apelireben imaze, rom

Tqven ar gqoniaT saqarTvelo-

Si biznesi, Tu ar CavTvliT

“qarTu banks” da ar CagidiaT

Tanxa saqarTvelos ekonomikis

ganviTarebaSi. marTlac, ra-

tom moxda ase?

- pirveli struqtura,

romelic saqarTveloSi gavx-

seni, iyo „qarTu banki“. maSi-

nac vacxadebdi da dResac vam-

bob, rom misi daniSnuleba sa-

qarTveloSi investiciebis Ca-

deba da sainvesticio proeq-

tebis dafinanseba iyo. yvela-

nair SeRavaTebs vpirdebodi

sazogadoebas da vapirebdi,

mTeli Cemi kapitali saqarT-

veloSi sainvesticio klima-

tis gaumjobesebisa da inves-

ticiebis CadebisTvis gamome-

yenebina. „qarTu banki“ iyo

pirveli struqtura da ara -

saqvelmoqmedo fondi.

pirveli dRidan moyole-

buli, „qarTu bankma“ saqarT-

velos ekonomikaSi 300 mili-

onis investireba moaxerxa.

imdenad, ramdenadac aq ar

aris sainvesticio klimati,

ar aris moTxovnileba ful-

ze, rogori saocrebac ar un-

da iyos. raRac etapze, bankis

xelmZRvanelobas davavale,

iqneb, sakredito ganakveTi

Segvemcirebina da minimumamde

dagveyvana, vinaidan problemis

mizezad maRali procentebi

miviCnie. magram analizis Sem-

deg damarwmunes, rom es SeuZ-

lebeli iyo, radgan erTader-

Ti, rac kargad funqcionireb-

da saqarTveloSi, es iyo sa-

banko-safinanso sistema, da

Tu Cven ganakveTs xelovnu-

rad davwevdiT, es sxva komer-

ciuli bankebis gakotrebas

gamoiwvevda. me sakuTari kapi-

tali Semomqonda da marto

dabandebisTvis mqonda es yve-

laferi gankuTvnili. magram

ar moxerxda, ar aris amaze

moTxovnileba...

yvelaze saintereso biz-

nesisaTvis - rac qveyanas

sWirdeba - es aris fuli. es

fuli unda gaices mosaxleo-

baze dabali procentebiT, es

ekonomikis ganviTarebisTvis

erT-erTi ZiriTadi faqtoria.

am mxriv, yvelaze didi SesaZ-

leblobebi gvqonda, raTa sa-

investicio banki vyofiliya-

viT; SeuzRudavi dafinanseba

SegveZlo, magram es ar mo-

xerxda.

- zogadad, Tavisufal

ekonomikur zonebze ras fiq-

robT da xelisuflebaSi mos-

vlis SemTxvevaSi, zonebTan

dakavSirebiT ra gadawyveti-

lebas miiRebT?

- saqarTveloSi ar unda

iyos erTi gamorCeuli zona.

yvela zona unda funqcioni-

rebdes da yvelgan unda iyos

realuri TviTmmarTveloba,

kargad gamarTuli politika

da kargi ekonomikuri kanone-

bi. amis safuZvelze unda gan-

viTardes yvela regioni.

rac Seexeba foTs da mas-

Tan mimarTebiT prezidentis

dapirebebs: ra Tqma unda, es

morigi sicruea. zogadad, Ta-

visufal ekonomikur zonebze

ukve uars ambobs ganviTarebu-

li evropa, Zveli evropa da

kviprosic ki, romelsac, ev-

rokavSirSi gasaerTianeblad,

ofSorul da Tavisufal eko-

nomikur zonebze uari aTqme-

vines. es iyo prezidentis mo-

rigi sicrue, morigi triuki

- lazikis mSeneblobis msgav-

sad, sadac erT kaci wyvets,

aSendes Tu ara axali qalaqi,

daSres Tu ara Waobebi. am

dros, uamravi saxli dacli-

lia, maT Soris, samegrelo-

Sic. xalxi samuSaod ucxoeT-

Si garbis, rac xelisufle-

bis politikis Sedegia. vin

unda icxovros im axal qa-

laqSi, vis unda es da ratom

unda gadawyvitos es yvelafe-

ri erTma kacma?

- Tqven erT interviuSi

ganacxadeT, rom saakaSvils

jer kidev gaaCnia resursi,

rom xalxma mas miutevos. ras

gulisxmobdiT?

- erTaderTi swori gza,

rac saakaSvils darCa, aris

is, rom rac SeiZleba swra-

fad SeCerdes. aseT SemTxveva-

Si, SeiZleba saqarTvelos mo-

saxleobam miutevos - uamravi

Secdomisa da danaSaulis mi-

uxedavad.

- mosaxleobas ainteresebs

aseve, xom ar gaauaresebs

Tqveni mosvla maT mdgomareo-

bas kriminaluri da socialu-

ri kuTxiT, eqnebaT Tu ara

maT Suqi, gazi...kanonieri

qurdebis mimarT SecvliT Tu

ara politikas?

- araviTar SemTxvevaSi. pi-

riqiT, dRes kriminalic, qur-

dica da moZaladec Cveni xe-

lisuflebaa - saakaSvilis me-

TaurobiT. Cven amas aRmovfx-

vriT da es iqneba Zalian mar-

tivi gasakeTebeli. is mosax-

leobis SecdomaSi Seyvanas

cdilobs. varwmuneb qarTul

sazogadoebas, rom kriminalu-

ri mdgomareoba arc erT Sem-

TxvevaSi, ar gauaresdeba; pi-

riqiT, gaumjobesdeba.

- xelisuflebaSi Tqveni

mosvlis SemTxvevaSi daisje-

bian Tu ar arCevnebis gamyal-

beblebi? amis precedenti ar

yofila aqamde: ayalbebdnen

SevardnaZis periodSi, ayalbe-

ben saakaSvilis periodSi,

magram grZeldeba dausjelo-

bis sindromi...

- dausjelobis sindromi

mudmivad ubiZgebs Semdgom xe-

lisufals aseTive darRvevis-

ken. ra Tqma unda, qveyanaSi

ukve ramdeni weliwadia, sa-

marTlianoba ar arsebobs da,

praqtikulad, aravin isjeba.

ufro metic, isjebian isinic,

visac araferi dauSavebia.

dRes uamravi ukanono patima-

ri gvyavs.

Cven movaxerxebT qveyana-

Si samarTlianobis aRdgenas.

saqarTvelos mosaxleobas

vpirdebi, rom daisjeba yvela

is piri, vinc daarRvevs ka-

nons da monawileobas miiRebs

arCevnebis gayalbebaSi. amis

precedenti saqarTveloSi Se-

iqmneba. es Cemi mxridan gafr-

Txilebacaa da Txovnac, rom

daemorCilon mxolod kanons

da ara - xelisuflebis mxri-

dan gayalbebis ukanono mowo-

debas.

- saqarTvelo aris natos

is arawevri qveyana, romelsac

yvelaze meti samxedro hyavs

avRaneTSi. xelisuflebaSi

Tqveni mosvlis SemTxvevaSi

ras apirebT: gazrdiT Tu Se-

amcirebT am kontingents?

- CvenTvis saamayo unda

iyos partnioroba iseT sa-

xelmwifoebTan, rogoric gax-

lavT amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebi da nato-s wevri sxva

saxelwifoebi. Cvenma qveyanam

unda SeZlos, Rirseulad Se-

asrulos is misia, rasac es

partnioroba avalebs. konkre-

tulad samxedro kontigentis

gazrdis an Semcirebis saWi-

roebas ganvixilavT, magram

evroatlantikur sivrcisken

ltolvas Cven ar SevaCerebT,

piriqiT, gavaZlierebT da da-

vaCqarebT. Cven am partnio-

robas did pativs vcemT da

momavalSi mis gaRrmavebas Se-

vecdebiT.

_ madloba interviusTvis.

esaubra

eliso janaSia.

19 gv.

biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:

`saakaSvili mzadaa, gaxdes absoluturi diqtatori, oRond mas ar aqvs amis resursebi~

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21saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

mas Semdeg, rac `qarTuli

ocneba~ batoni biZina ivaniSvi-

lis saxiT politikur sarbiel-

ze gamoCnda, misi mowinaaRmdege

mxridan ar wydeba imaze saubari,

rom baton ivaniSvilTan `nafta-

linidan amoRebuli~, an sulac,

`SevardnaZis xelisuflebis sa-

xeebi~ arian. erTis mxriv, bato-

ni robert sturuas Tqmisa ar

iyos, naftalinSi imas inaxaven,

rasac ufrTxildebian, meore _

sasaciloa TiTis gaSvera sxve-

bisken, roca `SevardnaZis saxe~,

TviT saqarTvelos moqmedi pre-

zidenti, mixeil saakaSvilia.

biZina ivaniSvili `qarTuli

ocnebis~ Semadgenlobis siis da-

saxelebas martis bolos, an ap-

rilis dasawyisSi gegmavso, gvam-

cnes sainformacio gamoSvebaSi.

aba, mere iqneba SevardnaZis mmar-

Tvelobisdroindeli saxeebis ga-

tan-gamotana, Tu rogorme `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ siaxloves mainc

aRmoCndnen, magram, manamde, arse-

buli xelisuflebis terariumSi

gadavixedoT:

#1 _ saqarTvelos preziden-

ti mixeil saakaSvili _ Se-

vardnaZis `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~

wevri. parlamentis wevri `moqa-

laqeTa kavSiridan~ 1995 wels.

parlamentis sakonstitucio iu-

ridiul sakiTxTa da kanoniere-

bis komitetis Tavmjdomare

1995-1998 wlebSi. fraqcia `sa-

qarTvelos moqalaqeTa kavSiris~

Tavmjdomare 1998-1999 wlebSi.

SevardnaZis mTavrobis iustici-

is ministri 2000 wels.

adeiSvili zurab _ Se-

vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

saqarTvelos parlametis wevri

2003 wlis dekembramde. parla-

mentSi sakonstitucio iuridi-

ul sakiTxTa da kanonierebis

komitetSi wamyvani specialisti

1996-1999 wlebSi.

baramiZe giorgi _ Se-

vardnaZis xelisuflebis parla-

mentis wevri 1992 wlidan. Se-

vardnaZis `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~

generaluri mdivani 1995-1996

wlebSi. SevardnaZis `moqalaqeTa

kavSiris~ saparlamento fraqcia

`moqalaqeTa kavSiris~ Tavmjdo-

mare 1996 wlidan. SevardnaZis

xelisuflebis dros, parlamen-

tis Tavdacvisa da uSiSroebis

komitetis Tavmjdomare 2000-

2002 wlebSi.

beJaSvili levan _ Se-

vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros

saqarTvelos parlamentis sap-

roceduro sakiTxTa da wesebis

komitetis aparatSi ufrosi da

wamyvani specialisti 1997-1999

wlebSi, aseve, departamentis

ufrosi 1999-2003 wlebSi.

gabaSvili kote _ Sevar-

dnaZis saxelmwifo sabWos wevri

1992 wels. SevardnaZis parla-

metis wevri 1992 wlis oqtom-

bridan 1992 wlis dekembramde.

SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

saqarTvelos ganaTlebis minist-

ri 1992-1993 wlebSi. Sevardna-

Zis mmarTvelobis dros Tbili-

sis meri 1993 wels. SevardnaZis

mmarTvelobis dros saqarTve-

los elCi germaniis federaci-

ul respublikaSi 1993-2004

wlebSi.

gogoriSvili xaTuna _

SevardnaZis xelisuflebis par-

lamentis garemos dacvis da bu-

nebrivi resursebis komisiis wam-

yvani specialisti 1993-1995

wlebSi. SevardnaZis parlamen-

tis aparatis ufrosi 1995-2003

wlebSi.

kublaSvili kote _ Se-

vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

saqarTvelos parlamentis apara-

tis iuridiuli departamentis

mTavari specialisti, ganyofi-

lebis gamge 1996-1998 wlebSi.

SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

centraluri saarCevno komisiis

iuristi 1995 wels.

maWavariani mixeil _

saqarTvelos parlamentis wevri

SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

1995-1999 wlebSi. SevardnaZis

mier Seqmnili `moqalaqeTa kav-

Siris~ generaluri mdivani. Se-

vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

sagadasaxado Semosavlebis mi-

nistri 1999-2001 wlebSi. Se-

vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,

saqarTvelos parlamentis Tavm-

jdomaris kabinetis ufrosi

200-2002 wlebSi.

merabiSvili ivane _ Se-

vardnaZis xelisuflebis parla-

mentis wevri 1999 wels. Sevar-

dnaZis parlamentis ekonomikuri

politikisa da reformebis komi-

tetis Tavmjdomare 2000 wels.

wereTeli gigi _ Sevar-

dnaZis xelisuflebaSi gamoCnda

1995 wels. Tbilisis vice-pre-

mieri iyo SevardnaZis mTavrobis

dros 1996-1998 wlebSi. 1998

wels iyo Tbilisis sakrebulos

wevri da fraqcia `Tbilisis~

Tavmjdomare 1998 wels. Sevar-

dnaZis `moqalaqeTa kavSiridan~

e. w SevardnaZis parlamentis

wevri 1999 wels da aseve Se-

vardnaZis parlamentis Tavmjdo-

maris moadgile 2000 wels da

aseve, parlamentis xazinadarTa

Tavmjdomare...

anbanis mixedviT, am siis sx-

vagvarad dawyebac SeiZleba da

gagrZelebac, magram Tavis Sewu-

xebad ar Rirs, am patara saqar-

TveloSi xom isedac yvelam yve-

laferi icis.

parlamentis wevrTa gansazR-

vruli raodenobidan gamomdina-

re, mere ra, rom SevardnaZis

mmarTvelobis dros parlamentis

wevri ar iyo romelime dRevan-

deli xelisufali, misi xelqve-

iTi xom iyo da mas Sescicineb-

da TvalebSi?

magaliTad, rogorc saakaSvi-

lis parlamentis moqmedi Tavmj-

domare daviT baqraZe, rome-

lic SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis

dros, saqarTvelos sagareo saq-

meTa struqturebSi muSaobda

ganiaraRebisa da kontrolis

sammarTvelos ufrosad da sam-

xedro politikuri departamen-

tis ufrosis moadgiled 1998-

2002 wlebSi, 2002 wlidan ki,

uSiSroebis sabWoSi gadavida.

an sulac kublaSvilipavle _ SevardnaZis mmarTve-

lobis dros, 1997 wels dainiS-

na saqarTvelos iusticiis sab-

Wos aparatis kancelariaSi kon-

sultantad. 1998 wels, _ sa-

qarTvelos iusticiis sabWos

sasamarTlo personalis seqto-

ris ufros konsultantad.

2000 wels _ sagadasaxado sami-

nistros centraluri aparatis

iuridiuli sammarTvelos ufro-

sad da imave wels gadayvanil

iqna saministros aparatis iuri-

diul sakiTxTa sammarTvelos

ufrosad. 2001 wels dainiSna

saqarTvelos antikorufciul

biuroSi samarTlis eqspertis

Tanamdebobaze.

ra moTvlis yvelas, vin sad

aris gadamxtar-gadmomxtari da

ratom, an vin visi Zmaa, biZaSvili,

mamidaSvili Tu naTel-mironi; an

SevardnaZisdroindel im wvril-

fexobas, asakidan gamomdinare, ma-

Sin verafriT rom ver moxvde-

bodnen imdroindel parlamentSi,

magram dRes uzomod gaibernen...

ai, esaa `Sexvedra warsulTan~

da `SevardnaZis mumificirebuli

gvamebi~, Tan Seulamazebeli da

ara is, rasac prezidenti saa-

kaSvili uwodebs, saxelisuflebo

televiziebi ki atrialeben...

maia WeliZe

SevardnaZis mTavrobis mumificirebuli gvamebi

saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.netSSeemmooggvviieerrTTddiiTT FACEBOOK-zzee

beniamin nneTaniahu: aar ddavuSveb CCemma xalxma SSetevis SSiSis qqveS iicxovros

isarelis premier-mministris be-

niamin neTaniahus gancxadebiT, is-

raeli uars ambobs iranTan da-

kavSirebul sanqciebze. amis Sesaxeb

,,bi-bbi-ssi” iuwyeba.

,,israeli iranis winaaRmdeg

diplomatiuri da ekonomikuri sanq-

ciebis amoqmedebas sulgrZelad

eloda, magram moTminebasac sazRvari aqvs. verc erTi Cvengani Tavs

meti lodinis uflebas ver miscems. ar davuSveb, Cemma xalxma

Setevis SiSis qveS icxovros”, _ amis Sesaxeb neTaniahum amerika-

israelis konferenciis farglebSi sityviT gamosvlisas ganacxada.

misi TqmiT, irans ar unda miscen birTvuli iaraRis Seqmnis

saSualeba.

sityviT gamosvlamde neTaniahu TeTr saxlSi aSS-iis prezi-

dentma barak obamam miiRo.

amerikis administraciis warmomadgenelTa gancxadebiT, neTa-

niahum aRniSna, rom israels iranze samxedro ieriSis Sesaxeb

gadawyvetileba jer ar miuRia, Tumca, Zalis gamoyenebis ufle-

bas itovebs.

`medianiusi~

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22 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

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llaappaarraakkoobbeenn.. uuffrroo aaqqttuuaalluurrii

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mmiixxeeiill aalleeqqssiiZZiiss ddeeddaass qqaallbbaattoonn

lali lekiSvils eessaauubbrraa

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo llaallii,, TTaavvddaappiirr-

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ttoommbbeerrss ddaa rraa mmiizzeezziiTT ggaarriiccxxeess

TTqqvveennii SSvviillii sskkoolliiddaann??

_ taras SavSiSvili skolaSi

axali mosuli iyo, rodesac kre-

baze ganacxada, mkacri refor-

matori viqnebi, SaSkinis uaxloe-

si megobari var, skolaSi wesrigs

davamyarebo. man aseve ganacxada,

rom skolidan ramodenime mos-

wavles gaagdebda, samagaliTod

dasjida maT, raTa sxvebisTvis es

wesrigis dasamyareblad gamoyene-

buli meTodi yofiliyo. erT kvi-

raSi skolidan ramdenime maswav-

lebeli da moswavle gauSva. bo-

los mixeilis klaseli irakli

mWedliSvili garicxa, romelic

am skolaSi erTi wlis win gadmo-

vida. manamde mas ramodenime sko-

la hqonda gamocvlili. klase-

lebma gadawyvites Tanadgoma ga-

moexataT da direqtorisTvis

TxovniT miemarTaT, raTa mWed-

liSvili klasidan ar gaericxa.

Cemma Svilmac daicva Tavisi Ta-

naklaseli. direqtorma ganucxa-

da, Tu is Seni megobaria, Senc mas

mihyvebi ukano da isic garicxa.

imis miuxedavad, rom Cems Svils

mandaturidan dawyebuli maswa-

vleblebiT damTavrebuli yvela

kargad axasiaTebs, direqtorma ma-

inc misi skolidan garicxvis ga-

dawyvetileba miiRo, Tumca CemT-

vis gaugebaria, ris safuZvelze.

rodesac skolaSi mivedi SavSiS-

vilma ori winadadeba SemomTavaza.

pirveli, Cumad, uxmaurod gaita-

neT sabuTebi da Tqveni Svili ga-

daiyvaneT kerZo skolaSi da meo-

re winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi Svilis

winaaRmdeg prokuraturaSi sisx-

lis samarTlis saqmes aRvZravo.

rasakvirvelia, me ar daveTanxme

da vuTxari, rom es ar aris re-

forma, rasac prezidenti qveyana-

Si atarebs, es aris saSineli mee-

qanizmi bavSvis daSinebis da misi

skolidan gaSvebis. Man ar miTxra

Tu ra konkretuli qmedeba Caidi-

na aleqsiZem mxolod is aRniSna,

rom mas sityvieri Seuracxyofa

miayena, Tumca raSi gamoixateba es

sityvieri Seuracxyofa, dRemde

ar vici.

__ TTuu mmiimmaarrTTeeTT ggaannaaTTlleebbiiss ssaa-

mmiinniissttrrooss??

_ ganaTlebis saministros im

dResve mivmarTe. saministroSi di-

mitri SaSkins SuaRamemde velo-

debodi. SigniT Sesvla rom ver

movaxerxe mis korteJs gadavude-

qi. ministrma ukve yvelaferi ico-

da. miTxra, rom mas hqonda faqte-

bi, video masala, Tu rogor aye-

nebs aleqsiZe Seuracxyofas di-

reqtors. me mas vTxove, eCvenebi-

na es Canawerebi da Tu Cemi Svi-

li damnaSave aRmoCndeboda, di-

reqtors sajarod bodiSs movux-

didi. amis Semdeg 4 Tveze meti

gavida, magram aranari video masa-

la ar minaxavs. am drois ganmav-

lobaSi werilebi davwere ganaT-

lebis ministris, prezidentis, sa-

xalxo damcvelis, prokuraturis

saxelze, magram pasuxi arsaidan

iyo, garda saxalxo damcvelisa.

swored man gamoiZia es saqme da

sakmaod obieqturi daskvna dado,

ris mixedviTac bavSvTa uflebebis

konvenciis 33 punqtia darRveuli.

amis garda, mivmarTe 6 sajaro

skolas, raTa mixeili aRedginaT

romelime sajaro skolaSi, Tumca

dadebiTi pasuxi ver miviRe. sity-

vierad meubnebodnen, rom miTanag-

rZnobdnen, magarm bavSvis aRsadge-

nad saministrodan sWirdebodaT

Tanxmoba.

__ rraammooddeenniimmee ddRRiiss wwiinn ggaavvrr-

cceellddaa iinnffoorrmmaacciiaa iimmiiss TTaaoobbaazzee,,

rroomm mmiixxeeiill aalleeqqssiiZZee TTiiTTqqmmiiss oorrii

TTvveeaa 7777-ee ssaajjaarroo sskkoollaaSSii

iirriiccxxeebbaa,, TTuummccaa bbaavvSSvvii sskkoollaaSSii

aarr ggaammooccxxaaddeebbuullaa.. sskkoolliiss ddiirreeqq-

ttoorriiss nniinnaa xxiiddaaSSeelliiss TTqqmmiiTT,,

TTqqvveennss SSvviillss ggaaccddeenniillii ssaaaaTTeebbii

sskkoollaaSSii ssiiaarruulliiss ppaarraalleelluurraadd

aaRRuuddggeebbaa.. rraammddeennaadd SSeeeessaabbaammeebbaa eess

iinnffoorrmmaacciiaa ssiimmaarrTTlleess??

_ rac Seexeba am gancxadebas,

es morigi tyuilia. me maqvs am

yvelafris damadasturebeli

iuridiuli sabuTi, Tu ra akavSi-

rebs mixeil aleqsiZes 77-e sko-

lasTan. bavSvma gadawyvita weli

ar daekarga da eqsternad gamoc-

debi Caebarebina. amisaTvis mivmar-

Te resurs centrs, sadac didi

winaaRmdegoba Semxvda. isini ar

gvaZlevdnen saSualebas davregis-

trirebuliyaviT. amitom davukav-

Sirdi saxalxo damcvelsa da Cems

advokats, romelmac maT auxsna,

rom mqonda iuridiuli ufleba

Cemi Svili dameregistrirebina.

amis Semdeg miiRes Cemi gancxade-

ba, sadac viTxov eqsternis gamoc-

debis Cabarebas 53-e skolaSi. 20

Tebervals miviRe resurs centri-

dan werili, sadac naTqvamia _ ga-

mocdis Casabareblad da konsul-

taciisTvis 77-e sajaro skolas

mimarTeTo. rodesac am skolas mi-

vmarTe, direqtorma damidastura,

rom Cven SesaZlebloba gvqonda

Cagvebarebina gamocdebi.

skolaSi aRdgenaze laparaki

ar yofila. am gancxadebis

gakeTebiT ganaTlebis sami-

nistrom kidev erTxel ic-

rua. saministrosgan mo-

viTxov gamoaqveynos Cemi

gancxadeba, Tu rodis miv-

marTe 77-e skolas daregis-

trirebis Taobaze, rodis

Caricxes Cemi Svili am sko-

laSi da rodis viyavi in-

formirebuli amis Sesaxeb.

__ TTqqvveenn aaggrreeTTvvee pprreezziiddeennttTTaann

iiTTxxoovvTT SSeexxvveeddrraass.. rraa uunnddaa uuTTxx-

rraaTT mmaass??

_ diax, moviTxov Sexvedras,

radgan prezidenti aris dezin-

formirebuli da warmodgena ar

aqvs ra xdeba sinamdvileSi. SaS-

kinma daijera is, rac uTxra cru

direqtorma, man es informacia mi-

utana prezidents. marTalia, isi-

ni misi Tanagundelebi arian, mag-

ram rogorc etyoba Tanagundele-

bi ki ara mtrebi arian. minda ico-

des prezidentma, rom misi re-

formis mteria SavSiSvili. ro-

gor SeiZleba aseTi direqtori

marTavdes bavSvebs da skolas?

mixeil aleqsiZis dacva Tavis

Tavze axlagazrda iuristTa aso-

ciaciam iTava. rogorc saias

iuristi lika wiklauri acxadebs,

aleqsiZis winaaRmdeg konstitu-

ciiTa da konvenciiT gaTvaliswi-

nebuli uflebebi uxeSad dairRva.

,, mogexsenebaT mixeil aleqsiZe

skolidan gairicxa. garicxvis sa-

fuZvlad miTiTebulia skolis Si-

naganawesis uxeSi darRveva da

swored aRniSnuli faqti, rom-

lis safuZvelzec moxda misi ga-

ricxva. gasaCivrebulia sasamarT-

loSi. garicxvis SesaZlebloba

saqarTvelos kanoni zogadi ganaT-

lebis Sesaxeb iTvaliswinebs, mag-

ram iTvaliswinebs gamonaklis

SemTxvevebSi. kerZod, iq aris

sxvadasxva disciplinuri saxde-

lebi da garicxvis ufleba mxo-

lod da mxolod disciplinur

komitets aqvs. faqtobrivad, es

aris administraciuli organo,

romelic valdebulia yvela gare-

moeba gamoikvlios, Seafasos. Tu

CaTvlis, rom darRvevaa Cadeni-

li, mere unda Seafasos ramdenad

mizanSewonilia moswavlis ga-

ricxva da mxolod amis Semdeg

Rebulobs am gadawyvetilebas. ka-

nonidan gamomdinare am komitetis

valdebulebaa, rodesac aseTi sa-

kiTxi ixileba aucileblad mSo-

bels ecnobos da im bavSvs, visi

interesic SeiZleba Seilaxos,

rom im adamians mieces SesaZleb-

loba ganxilvaSi miiRos monawi-

leoba da Tavisi pozicia daafiq-

siros. Cvens SemTxvevaSi ki iciT

ra moxda? 2011 wlis 13 oqtom-

bers moxda raRac incidenti, rac

konkretulad iq aRniSnuli ar

aris. arsebobs direqtoris moxse-

nebiTi baraTi, sadac weria, rom

uxeSad iqna darRveuli skolis

Sinaganawesi da iTxovs, rom mox-

des bavSvis skolidan garicxva. es

waredgina disciplinur komitets.

es iyo imis safuZveli, rom maT

daewyoT am saqmis warmoeba da Se-

sabamisad gamoekvliaT garemoebebi.

arc bavSvi da arc misi mSobeli

amis Sesaxeb informirebulebi ar

iyvnen. rodesac am saqmiT saxal-

xo damcveli dainteresda, gaesa-

ubra am komitetis wevrebs da

aRmoCnda, rom yvela wevri sxva-

dasxva informacias aZlevs, Tu

rodis Catarda kreba, iyo Tu ara

faruli kenWisyra da a.S. realu-

rad am gadawyvetilebaSi direq-

tori monawileobda da komitetis

or wevrze (sul 4 wevri iyo),

misi mxridan iyo zewola. realu-

rad raSi gamoixata darRveva, ar-

sad ar ikiTxeba. weria rom Sina-

ganawesi uxeSad daarRvia. ras da-

eyrdno komiteti, ucnobia, arana-

iri mtkicebuleba ar arsebobs,

erTaderTi mtkicebuleba direq-

toris moxsenebiTi baraTia. faq-

tobrivad, direqtoris sityvaze

dayrdnobiT miiRes gadawyvetile-

ba bavSvis garicxvis Sesaxeb.

aleqsiZesTan mimarTebaSi amoRebu-

li iqna mTlianad masalebi, iyo

Tu ara rodisme disciplinarul

pasuximgeblobaSi micemuli . er-

TaderTi rac moxda garicxvamde

11 TviT adre mas qonda werilo-

biTi gafrTxileba, rom mixeil

aleqsiZem Turme mandaturs uxe-

Sad mimarTa da aRniSnulis sa-

fuZvelze eZleva gafrTxileba.

analogiurad am saqmeze gvaqvs im

maswavleblis gancxadeba, romlis

klasSic moxda es yvelaferi da

is ambobs, es uxeSi mimarTva gamo-

ixata imaSi, rom aleqsiZem gvariT

mimarTa mandaturs. erTi momentic

aris, ramdenad mZime darRveva iyo

es, raTa CaTvalo garicxvis sa-

fuZvlad. aqve mniSvnelovania er-

Ti garemoeba _ kanoniT dadgeni-

lia, rodesac disciplinuri dana-

Saulis Cadenidan 6 Tve gava da

Tu im periodSi raRac sxva ar

dagemata, iTvlebi, rom ar gaqvs

araferi gadacdomaSi. Sesabamisad,

11 Tvis Semdeg, rodesac ixilebo-

da es sakiTxi amaze apelireba iyo

kanonis darRveva,“ _ ganacxada

wiklaurma.

prezidentis gancxadebaze, sa-

dac is aleqsiZes xulignad moix-

seniebs da aRniSnavs, rom mas

swavla vakis garda arc erT sko-

laSi ar surso, advokati pasu-

xobs: ,, gamovexmaurebi preziden-

tis gancxadebas, sadac naTqvamia,

rom aleqsiZe vakeSi swavlas

iTxovso. zogadi ganaTlebis Sesa-

xeb kanonis meSvide muxli iTva-

liswinebs am SesaZleblobas. ker-

Zod, saxelmwifos valdebulebaa

uzrunvelyos, rom bavSvma ganaT-

leba miiRos sacxovrebel adgil-

Tan maqsimalurad axlos. am Sem-

TxvevaSi bavSvi cxovrobs vakeSi.

Sesabamisad, kanonidan gamomdinare

ufleba aqvs ganaTleba miiRos sa-

cxovrebel adgilTan axlos da

imitom iTxovs,“ _ aRniSna advo-

katma da aqve dasZina: ,,imedi

gvaqvs, rom prezidentis gancxade-

ba sasamarTloze ar iqoniebs gav-

lenas da kanonierad, srulyofi-

lad iqneba saqme gamoZiebuli.“

rac Seexeba sasamarTlos pir-

veli mosmenas, igi 10 Tebervals

unda gamarTuliyo, Tumca sxva-

dasxva mizezebis gamo 1 martisT-

vis gadaido. 1 marts gaimarTa mi-

xeil aleqsiZis ojaxis sarCelTan

dakavSirebiT mosamzadebeli gan-

xilva, sadac mosamarTle orive

mxaris masalebs gaecno. sasamarT-

lom damatebiTi informacia mo-

iTxova da 12 marts kvlav mosam-

zadebeli Sexvedra gaimarTeba.

aleqsiZis ojaxi disciplinebuli

komitetis aqtis baTilad cnobas

moiTxovs, romlis safuZvelzec

iqna gacemuli direqtoris brZane-

ba moswavlis garicxvis Taobaze.

erTi ram cxadia. mixeil aleq-

siZe skolidan Tavisi Tanaklase-

lis irakli mWedliSvilis gverd-

Si dgomisTvis garicxes. mWedliS-

vili swavlas sxva skolaSi ganag-

rZobs. aleqsiZe ki sasamarTlos

gadawyvetilebis molodinSia.

salome kakauriZe

xuligani Tu reformis msxverpli?

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socialuri

dazRvevis sivrce

SvedeTis samefoSi socialu-

ri dazRvevis sistema gardaqmnas

ganicdis. socialuri dazRvevis

Zveli sqemiT sargebloben mxo-

lod 1937 wlamde dabadebuli

dasaqmebulebi da TviTdasaqmebu-

lebi, romelTa wliuri Semosava-

li aRemateboda 43300 Svedur

kronas. socialuri dazRvevis

axali sqemiT sargebloben 1938

wlidan dabadebuli dasaqmebule-

bi da TviTdasaqmebulebi, romel-

Ta wliuri Semosavali Seadgenda

17935 Svedur kronas. gansakuT-

rebiT maRali Semosavlebis mqone

dasaqmebulTa da TviTdasaqmebul-

TaTvis moqmedebs premialuri sa-

pensio sqema. am sqemebis gansxva-

vebis miuxedavad, qveyanaSi damk-

vidrebulia principi `SvedeTis

samefoSi dasaqmebuli yvela ada-

miani uzrunvelyofili iqnes so-

cialuri dazRvevis garantiebiT~.

dafinansebis wyaroebi

SvedeTis samefoSi dazRveuls

Semosavlebis 7 procents Seaqvs

mxolod asakis mixedviT

sapensio fondSi. Sesaba-

misi daangariSebisaTvis

saWiro minimaluri wli-

uri Semosavali Seadgens

41237 Svedur kronas.

amas garda axali sapen-

sio sqemis Sesabamisad,

Semosavlebis 0,5 procen-

ti gadaecema premialur

sapensio fonds administ-

raciuli xarjebis dasa-

farad.

TviTdasaqmebulebi as-

akis mixedviT sapensio

fondSi ixdian TviTgan-

cxadebuli Semosavlebis

7 procents da saxelmwifos mier

Sefasebuli Semosavlebis 10,21

procents, aqedan 1,7 procenti

iricxeba marCenalis dakargvis

sapensio fondSi.

damsaqmeblebi asakis mixedviT

sapensio fondSi ixdian maT sa-

kuTrebaSi arsebuli sawarmoebis

saxelfaso fondis 10,21 pro-

cents, damatebiT 1,7 procents

ixdian marCenalis dakargvis sa-

pensio fondSi.

pensiis daniSvnis

pirobebi da moculoba

SvedeTis samefoSi rogorc

Zveli, aseve axali sqemis mixed-

viT garantirebulia pensia.

1937 wlamde dabadebuli mar-

toxela pensionerTaTvis wliuri

pensia 90312 Svedur kronas Se-

adgens, ojaxSi mcxovrebi pensio-

nerTaTvis, Tu isini SvedeTis sa-

mefoSi dasaqmebuli iyvnen ara

nakleb 40 weli, maTi wliuri

pensia 80500 Sveduri kronaa.

1938 wlis Semdgom dabade-

bul martoxela pensionerTaTvis

wliuri pensia aseve 90312 Sve-

dur kronas Seadgens, xolo

ojaxSi mcxovreb pensionerTaTvis

wliuri pensia 80660 Sveduri

kronaa.

SvedeTis samefoSi asakis mi-

xedviT pensia ar ibegreba gadasa-

xadebiT, yovelwliurad xdeba mi-

si sainflacio indeqsacia.

Zveli saqmis Sesabamisi Semo-

savlebTan dakavSirebuli asakis

mixedviT pensia SromiT staJis

15 saukeTeso wlis saSualo Se-

mosavlis 60 procents Seadgens

da weliwadSi aranakleb 43 300

Svedur kronas aRwevs. naklebi

Semosavlebis mqone pensionere-

bisTvis gaicema kompensacia, ro-

melic martoxela pensionerTaT-

vis minimaluri pensiis 96 pro-

cents, xolo ojaxSi mcxovreb

pensionerTaTvis minimaluri pen-

siis 78,5 procents Seadgens.

SvedeTis samefoSi, umuSev-

robis dazRvevis salaroebi, ma-

Ti araerTgzis privatizaciis

mcdelobisa, kvlav rCebian Sve-

deTis profesiuli kavSirebis

centraluri gaerTianebis marT-

vaSi, qveyanaSi sawarmoebSi ube-

duri SemTxvevebisgan dazRvevis

sistema saxelmwifos xelSia,

xolo dazRveva sxva mimarTule-

biT kerZoa.

invalidTa

Semweobis moculoba

SvedeTis samefoSi saxelmwi-

fos mier garantirebuli inva-

lidTa Semweoba weliwadSi

101760 Svedur kronas Seadgens.

invalidTa Semweoba am moculo-

biT gaicema mxolod im pirebze,

vinc qveyanaSi dasaqmebuli iyo

minimum 40 weli. SvedeTis same-

foSi dausaqmebel TiToeul wel-

ze invalidobis Semweoba 2,5 pro-

centiT iklebs, xolo sapensio

asakamde mxolod SvedeTis same-

foSi dasaqmebis SemTxvevaSi inva-

lidis Semweobas yovelwliurad

27117 Sveduri krona emateba.

Sromisunarianobis mcire saSua-

lo da didi xarisxis dakargvisas

sruli Semweobis 25 procents,

50 procents, 75 procents iRebs

invalidi, xolo sruli 100 pro-

centi Semweobisas gaicema sruli

Sromisuunarobisas.

Semweobis moculoba

marCenalis dakargvisas

SvedeTis samefoSi marCenalis

dakargvisas saxelmwifos mier ga-

rantirebuli Semweoba weliwadSi

90312 Svedur kronas Seadgens.

marCenalis dakargvis Semweoba

ibegreba gadasaxadebiT da xdeba

misi yovelwliuri sainflacio

indeqsacia, socialuri dazRvevis

fondis SenatanebTan dakavSirebu-

li Semweoba asakis mixedviT pen-

siis moculobis 55 procents Se-

adgens. Tu gardacvlil marCe-

nals am pensiis miRebis ufleba

gaaCnda. marCenaldakargul qvriv-

ze Semweoba gaicema marCenalis

gardacvalebis dRidan 12 Tvis

ganmavlobaSi, Tu

qvrivs hyavs 12 wlam-

de asakis bavSvebi mar-

Cenalis dakargvis Sem-

weoba miecema TiToeu-

li maTganis 12 wlis

asakis miRwevamde.

oblebze marCena-

lis dakargvis Semweo-

ba gaicema yovelTviu-

rad 16900 Sveduri

kronis moculobiT.

oblebi mas iReben 18

wlis (studentTaTvis

20 wlis) asakis miR-

wevamde. orive mSob-

liT oboli gardacv-

lili mSoblebis pensiis 35 pro-

cents iRebs. Tu orive mSobliT

oboli ramdenimea, maT Semweobas

mSoblebis pensiis kidev 20 pro-

centi emateba da igi TiToeulze

Tanabrad nawildeba.

daviT arabiZe ganaTlebis erovnuli

kavSiris mdivani

oriode wlis win narkoma-

niisa da narkobiznesis winaaR-

mdeg brZolis egidiT Sss-m ga-

moacxada sakontaqto telefo-

ni, romelzec dakavSireba Se-

eZlo nebismier msurvels, ra-

Ta moewodebina informacia

narkomanTa TavSeyris, reali-

zaciisada a.S. faqtebis Sesa-

xeb. policia Setyobinebis da-

dasturebis SemTxvevaSi in-

formators aTas larian pre-

mias hpirdeboda. amasTan, Sss

pirovnebis anonimurobis ga-

rantias iZleoda.

informaciis amgvari

saxiT miRebas uamravi ga-

uTvaliswinebeli SemTxve-

va mohyva. iyo cru zarebi,

piradi wyenis niadagze Se-

suli Setyobinebebi da

sxva. amasTan erTad sco-

davdnen policielebic.

xelmZRvanelobasTan qule-

bis daweris mizniT isini

akiTxavdnen, viTomda Sesu-

li informaciebis safuZ-

velze narkotikebTan dakavSi-

rebiT nasamarTlevebs, ajari-

mebdnen maT, zogierTi uRirsi

ki fulis keTebazec gadavida.

sabolood ise moxda, rom

premialuri Tanxa aravisze ga-

cemula, iniciativa Cavarda.

samagierod, didi gasaqani mie-

ca narkomanias. narkobiznesi

ayvavda. biujeti da cixeebi

aivso narkotikebze dakavebu-

lebisagan Sesuli sajarimo

saxadebiTa da ukanonod daka-

vebulebiT.

specialistTa ganmartebiT,

merabiSvilis uwyebam narkoti-

kul danaSaulTan brZola pir-

wmindad waago.

arafris momtani axali ni-

ciativa.

cota xnis win Sss-s veb-

gverdze axali iniciativa _

`gviTxariT, rogor gemsaxu-

roT~ gamoCnda. masSi ori sa-

xis kiTxvaria _ detaluri da

blici. kiTxvarebis gaCenis mi-

zezad Sss xalxze zrunvas

asaxelebs _ CvenTvis mniSvne-

lovania vicodeT, Tu ra gawu-

xebT, rom ukeT davgegmoT po-

liciis saqmianoba. aRsaniSna-

via, rom ministrma aseTi mi-

marTva sakuTari `feisbuqis~

meSveobiTac gaavrcela.

kiTxvariT Sss moqalaqeebs

mimarTavs _ CamoTvaleT prio-

riteti, rasac policiam unda

miaqcios yuradReba, rom moqa-

laqeebma Tavi usafrTxod da

daculad igrZnon, iqve CamoT-

vlilia danaSaulTa saxeebi,

romlebTan brZola moqalaqes

pirvel rigSi gadasawyvetad

miaCnia. aris Rrmad dasafiqre-

beli grafac _ ra unda gaake-

Tos policiam, rom Tqveni

prioriteti ganaxorcieldes.

organo, romelic

msoflio masStabiT

`magaliTis mimcemia~

TviTon iTxovs

daxmarebas

daTo CerqeziSvili(Tadarigis maiori, Sss Stabis

yofili ufrosi inspeqtori):

`is, rom Sss dabneulia da

aRar icis, erTmaneTis romel

saxeobasTan brZolaze aiRos

aqcenti, kiTxvaridanac sCans.

magram gaocebas iwvevs mimarT-

vis is punqti, sadac saminist-

ro mosaxleobisagan iTxovs

rekomendaciebs danaSaulTan

winaaRmdeg brZolaze, amisaT-

vis arsebobs statistika, ar-

sebobs operatiuli saqmiano-

bis gamocdileba.

gasaocaria, rom iwyeba,

romlis kriminalTan da ko-

rufciasTan brZolis gamocdi-

lebis gasacnobad sxvadasxva

qveynebis warmomadgenlobebi

Camodian, kiTxulobs _ ra un-

da gaakeTos policiam mdgoma-

reobis gamosasworeblad.

sul sxva kuTxiT ganixi-

lavs merabiSvilis kiTxvars

damnaSaveobis sociologiis

specialisti naili cxovreba-

Ze _`imisaTvis, rom kiTxvarma

aucileblad miaRwios Ss mi-

nistramde, aucilebelia, re-

gionis, qalaqis, raionis, qu-

Cis dasaxeleba. miTiTebuli

unda iyos sqesi da asaki.

kiTxvaris bolos ki miamitu-

rad weria _ sakontaqto te-

lefonis miTiTeba nebayoflo-

biTia. bolo minaweri winaaRm-

degobaSi modis TavSi, auci-

lebel velebSi miTiTebul

moTxovnebTan. bolo punqts

pasuxi romc ar gaeces, eleq-

tronuli kiTxvaris gamomg-

zavnis vinaoba adgili dasad-

genia. rodesac mosaxleobaSi

musirebs mosazreba, rom yve-

las da yvelgan usmenen, msgav-

si tipis kiTxvarze pasuxis

gacema namdvilad bevri ar iq-

neba.

sociologis azriT, kiTx-

vars ufro Sors mimavali az-

ri da mizani unda hqondes,

vidre qveyanaSi kriminogenuri

viTarebis gamosworebaa.

zaza bilixoZe

merabiSvili aRiarebs,rom kriminogenuri viTareba umarTavia

socialuri dazRvevissistema SvedeTSi

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24 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.24

mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT

putinis gamarjvebas saprotes-

to mitingebis monawileebic ki

aRiareben, Tumca radganac ar ar-

sebobs Zalauflebis gadacemis

misaRebi formula, TavisTavad sa-

SiSia viTareba, roca qveynis moma-

vali erTi adamianis xelSia. pu-

tinma unda iswavlos Zalaufle-

bis gayofa, weren ucxouri media-

saSualebebi. dasavleTi ixsenebs

sxva qveynebis eklian gzas demok-

ratiisken da ruseTisTvis maSve-

li rgolis momarjvebazec uTi-

Tebs.

The Financial Times: moskoviscentrSi orSabaTs demonstran-tebsa da policias Soris Setake-ba moxda, daakaves aseulobiT ada-miani, romlebic saprezidento ar-CevnebSi darRvevebs aprotestebd-nen. putini albaT isedac gaimar-jvebda meore turSi _ miwerebisgareSe, Tumca ucxoeli da adgi-lobrivi damkvirveblebi mkacradakritikeben kremls arasamarTli-ani winasaarCevno kampaniis gamoda arCevnebis dRes daSvebul uam-rav darRvevaze miuTiTeben. imTa-viTve moaxdines konkurenti par-tiebisa da kandidatebis diskva-lifikacia, maSin, roca putins sae-Tero drois 70 procenti dauTmes.

Foreign Policy: putinis saxescremlebi arc ki SeSroboda, ro-ca man moskovSi gamarTuli mitin-gis monawileebis devna daiwyo,wers gamocemis mimomxilveliiulia iofe. `centralizebulikastingis ganyofilebidan~ misu-li uamravi xalxis miuxedavad,de-monstrantebi cdilobdnen, provo-kaciebs ar wamohgebodnen da mani-festacias mSvidobiani xasiaTihqonoda. moulodnelad, policiam

daSlisken mouwoda momitingeebsda `omonelebma~ moednis gaTavi-sufleba daiwyes _ xalxs patim-rebisTvis gankuTvnil operatiu-li manqanebisken miaTrevdnen.

mimomxilveli aRniSnavs, romdaZabul viTarebaSi putini moqme-debis uares variants irCevs xol-me. ase iyo puSkinis moedanze: mo-mitingeebi yinvaSi didxans arcgaCerdebodnen, magram maTi dapa-timrebis brZaneba mainc gaica. ragamovida? `axali wamebulebi~ gai-Cina...

The New York Times: sapreziden-to arCevnebSi STambeWdavi gamar-jvebis Sesaxeb gancxadebis gake-Tebidan meore dResve, putini misilegitimurobis problemas gada-awyda. ucxoelma damkvirveblebmafalsifikaciis braldebebi wamoa-yenes,daumorCilebelma opoziciamki piroba dado, putins 6-wlianivadis bolomde miyvanas ar vaRir-sebTo... amerikam da evrokavSirma

falsifikaciis gamoZieba moiTxo-ves, Tumca putinTan muSaobismzadyofna gamoTqves.

saxelmwifo departamenti, ar-Cevnebis Sedegebis damtkicebisada inauguraciis Semdeg, arCeulprezidentTan TanamSromlobisimeds gamoTqvams. gancxadebaSi ga-moTqmulia SeSfoTeba `im pirobe-bis gamo, romelSic mimdinareobdasaarCevno kampania _ viwropartiu-li interesebisTvis saxelmwiforesursebis gamoyeneba da proce-sualuri darRvevebi arCevnebisdRes~.

arCevnebis Sedegebis falsifi-kaciam problemebi unda Seuqmnasputinis, rogorc politikuri li-deris legitimacias, aRniSnavs ga-mocema.

Sueddeutsche Zeitung: `ar SeiZle-ba saprotesto moZraobis dinami-kis Seufasebloba da axlad arCe-ulma prezidentma unda wamoiwyospolitikuri Serigebis procesi.

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saxelmwi-fos moazrovne pirebi an qveyni-dan gaixvewebian, an maTi radika-lizacia moxdeba.

politikuri Serigebis procesiswrafad ar daiwyeba. werilis av-tori urCevs putins, daiokos Ta-visi ritorika da axsenebs, rogormoixsenia man demonstrantebi ban-derlogebad da moRalateebad.`putini unda ecados maTi ndobismopovebas~,

Le Monde: farTod gavrcelebu-li azris miuxedavad, putini ukveaRar aris erTaderTi batoni qvey-nisa _ am gamarjvebisTvis iseTibrZola mouxda, rogoric arasd-ros.

`ruseTi Seicvala. 4 dekembrisarCevnebis Semdeg uprecedentosaprotesto moZraoba imis maCvene-belia, rom moqalaqeTa axali ka-tegoria iqmneba. misi arsebobakremlma unda gaiTvaliswinos. esaxali saSualo da informirebu-li klasi, bedis ironiiT, sworedputinis dros Camoyalibda da gan-viTarda. maT surT ixilon norma-luri da Tanamedrove qveyana daara federacia, romelsac koruf-cia Wams da sadac sabWouri epo-qis cru faseulobebis aRdgenasurT~, _ vkiTxulobT gamocemissaredaqcio werilSi.

The Guardian: reaqcia, romelicvladimir putinis arCevas mohyva,`mianiSnebs misi fsevdosaxelmwi-fos sazRvrebze. `marTvadi demok-ratia~ xels uwyobda putinis, ro-gorc Zlieri lideris imijisgamyarebas: ara imitom, rom namd-vili demokratiis iluzias qmni-da, aramed imitom, rom moxerxebu-lad marTvis iluzias qmnida~.

amerikelma senatorma jon makkei-nim ruseTSi gamarTul saprezidentoarCevnebs `TaRliToba~ uwoda. `ruse-Tis arCevnebi TaRliToba aRmoCnda.`arabuli gazafxuli~ukve movida ruseTSida igi gagrZeldeba.odesRac igive ganmeor-deba CineTSic. Cven Ta-namedrove msoflioSivcxovrobT _ XXI sau-kuneSi da darwmunebu-li var _ rusi xalxiyovelTvis ver moiT-mens korumpirebul xe-lisuflebas~, _ ga-nacxada man CNN-isTvismicemul interviuSi.

cnobilia, rom makke-ini ruseTis erT-erTiyvelaze radikalurikritikosia. araerTxel gaufrTxile-bia da damuqrebia kidec ruseTis xe-lisufleba, romlis politika da moq-medebebi mas ukiduresad aRizianebs.senatori ewinaaRmdegeba ruseTisa daamerikis SeerTebuli Statebis daax-loebis politikas da miaCnia: ruseTi,romelic msoflio gavlenis dabrune-

bas cdilobs, safrTxes warmoadgensamerikisTvis.

SarSan, dekemberSi, makkeinma saxel-mwifo saTaTbiros arCevnebis Sedegeb-

Si `arabuli gazafxu-lis~ niSnebi SeamCnia.werilic ki miswera pu-tins _ Zvirfaso vlad,arabuli gazafxuligiaxlovdebaT. makkeinsvalSi ar darCa putini_ vietnamis Semdeg mak-keins TavSi ufrialeb-so...

TebervalSi kideverTxel Seaxsena pu-tins _ `Zvirfasovlad, `arabuli ga-zafxuli~ ukve Tqvenmezobladaa~.

amjrad ki, saprezi-dento arCevnebSi putinis gamarjvebi-sa da maneJis moedanze gamarTul `ga-marjvebulTa mitingze~ misi cremle-bis Sesaxeb ganacxada: `Zvirfasovlad, siurprizia! siurprizi! Sen gai-marjve! SenTan erTad rusi xalxictiris!~

rosbalt.ru

am dReebSi sa-

qarTveloSi imyo-

feboda pentagonis

xelmZRvanelis mo-

adgile selesta

volanderi, romel-

mac mouwoda adgi-

lobriv xelisuf-

lebas, moaxdinos

qarTuli armiis

depolitizacia. sa-

mwuxarod, samTav-

robo mediasaSua-

lebebs am gancxa-

debaze sityvac ar

dauZravT.

Tavdacvis erovnul akademi-aSi gamarTul Sexvedraze stu-marma ilaparaka armiis rolzedemokratiul sazogadoebaSida aRniSna: armia unda iyosara marto `kargad gawvrTnilida disciplinebuli~, aramed`unda daicvas politikuri ne-itraliteti da ar dauWirosmxari romelime politikurjgufs~.

pentagonis maRalCinosnis

gamosvlis teqstis gaSuqebazeuari Tqves samTavrobo mediiswarmomadgenlebma, Tumca ameri-kis SeerTebuli Statebis sa-elCom igi srulad gamoaqveyna.

selesta volanderma agreT-ve ganacxada, rom samxedrouwyeba unda iyos apolitikurida amas yvela unda xedavdes;winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, igilegitimurobas dakargavs xal-xSi.

vz.ru

ucxouri presis dRis Tema: arCevnebi ruseTSi

`arabulma gazafxulma~ moskovamde miaRwia

amerika saqarTvelos armiisdepolitizacias iTxovs

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25saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.

mecnierebis aRmoCena: xa-

lxi, rogorc biologiuri

saxeoba, arc ise gonieria,

rom Sesabamisi lideri air-

Cios.

am gamokvlevis Sedegebi

hitlersa da stalins gaa-

xarebda, amtkicebs The DailyMail. amerikel mecnierTa

jgufma, romelsac fsiqo-

logi devid daningi xelm-

ZRvanelobda, daaskvna _

adamianebis umravlesoba

ubralod sakmarisad ar

aris inteleqtualurad ga-

nviTarebuli, rom arCeviT

Tanamdebobaze Sesabamisi

kandidati airCios, ganmar-

tavs gamocemis Jurnalisti

leon uotsoni.

daningma da misma kole-ga jastin kriugerma araer-Txel daamtkices, rom xa-lxs sakuTar gonebriv Se-saZleblobebze aRmatebuliwarmodgenebi aqvs. am eqspe-rimentis monawileebi, maSi-nac ki, roca sxvebze cudad

arTmevdnen Tavs davale-bebs, TavianT SesaZleblo-bebs `saSualoze metad~afasebdnen. imavdroulad,sworad gansazRvravdnen, Tuvin Seasrula davaleba ara-damakmayofileblad, yvela-ze niWierebs ki ver avlend-nen, radgan saamiso kompe-tencia ar hyofnidaT.

axlaxan, germanel-ma sociologma matonagelma daningisa dakriugeris TeoriisSesamowmeblad Sead-gina demokratiuliarCevnebis kompiute-ruli modeli. massafuZvlad daedo uk-ve aprobirebuli Te-oria: amomrCevelTaumravlesoba saSua-lo donis liderebi

arian da arc erT maTgansar SeuZlia amoicnos li-deris Tvisebebi im kandi-datSi, romelic masze uke-Tesia. nagelis modelis Ta-naxmad, gaimarjva im kandi-datma, romelsac lideris-Tvis aucilebeli Tvisebebi`saSualoze odnav meti~hqonda.

sociologis daskvniT,demokratiis arsebobisas,saukeTeso liderebs iSvia-Tad irCeven. demokratiisupiratesoba ki mxolod isaris, rom saSualoze daba-li niWis kandidatebis gan-Tesva xdeba.

The Daily Mail

opozicionerTa devnis gamo evrokavSiri sanqciebs uwesebs

beloruss, saqarTvelos ki, ratomRac, indobs

praRaSi gaimarTa evrokav-Sirisa da centraluri da aR-mosavleT evropis im qveynebiswarmomadgenelTa Sexvedra,romlebic `viSegradis oTxeu-lis~ da `evrokavSiris aRmo-savleTis partniorobis~ or-ganizaciebis wevrebi arian.

evrokavSiris sagareo politikis dargis umaRlesmawarmomadgenelma keTrin eStonma da evrokomisiis wevrmaStefan fiulem yofili aRmosavleTis blokis cxra qvey-nis partniorebTan erTad evrokavSirisa da ori regionu-li organizaciis ufro mWidro urTierTobis perspeqtive-bi ganixiles.

`viSegradis oTxeulis~ SemadgenlobaSi Sedian ungre-Ti, poloneTi slovakeTi da CexeTi. ramdenime wlis winSeqmnili `aRmosvleTis partniorobis~ wevrebi arianazerbaijani, belorusi, moldaveTi, saqarTvelo, somxeTi daukraina.

am SexvedraSi ar monawileobda belorusis warmomad-geneli _ evrokavSirsa da minsks Soris urTierToba da-Zaba belorusis xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg miRebulmaamaswinandelma sanqciebma, romelic opoziciuri aqtivis-tebis devnis gamo miiRes.

evrokavSiri ratomRac Tvals xuWavs sxva qveynebis xe-lisufalTa antidemokratiul moqmedebebze. magaliTadSeiZleba moviyvanoT saqarTvelos xelisuflebis moqmede-ba: SarSan 26 maiss (da es ar iyo pirveli SemTxveva) sas-tikad daarbia opoziciis mitingi, umowyalod gauswordamis TiToeul monawiles fizikurad da Semdgom periodSimaTze nadiroba daiwyo. saqarTveloSi damkvidrebul`SerCeviT samarTals~ evrostruqturebis `SerCeviTiTvaldaxuWuli partnioroba~ ubams mxars.

svnews.ru

demokratia aRar aris efeqtiani?

internetmimoxilva moamzada

gulbaaT WavWavaZem.

xxaaSSuurriiss rraaiioonnSSii mmccxxoovvrreebbii

ssoossoo qqiimmeerriiZZiiss ggaarrddaaccvvaalleebbaamm

ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaaSSii ssxxvvaaddaassxxvvaa kkiiTTxx-

vveebbii ddaa aaddggiilloobbrriivvii ppoolliicciiiiss

mmiimmaarrTT bbeevvrrii uurrTTiieerrTTggaammoommrrii-

ccxxaavvii vveerrssiieebbii ggaaaaCCiinnaa..

,,,,ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTss~~ TTeemmiiss ddeettaa-

lleebbzzee ,,,,yyooffiillii ppoolliittppaattiimmrreebbii

aaddaammiiaanniiss uufflleebbeebbiissTTvviiss~~ TTaavvmmjj-

ddoommaarree nana kakabaZe eessaauubbrraa..

iiggii TTaavvaadd iimmyyooffeebbooddaa ggaarrddaaccvv-

lliilliiss oojjaaxxSSii ddaa mmiiss oojjaaxxiiss

wweevvrreebbTTaann ggaassaauubbrreebbaa mmooaaxxeerrxxaa..

_ xelisuflebs mxridan xSi-

rad mogvismenia bevri saqebari

sityva policiis reformaze, de-

mokratiuli faseulobebis Camo-

yalibebaze, revoluciis dadebiT

mxareebze, Tumca sinamdvileSi

miviReT absoluturad gansxvave-

buli gacilebiT mZime realoba.

revoluciis pirvelive dReebi-

dan xelisuflebam umowyalod,

daiwyo udanaSaulo xalxis Ca-

xocva Ria cis qveS _ quCebSi.

Tamamad SeiZleba iTqvas, rom

mmarTveli gundis mier es yvela-

feri gamiznulad da axlac mi-

zanmimarTulad keTdeba, imisT-

vis, rom sazogadoebaSi daTeson

SiSi da ganukiTxaoba. yvelas

kargad gvaxsovs sandro girgv-

lianis mkvleloba, sadac pirda-

pir dadasturda vano merabiSvi-

lis meuRlis monawileoba.

strasburgis sasamarTloSic da-

dasturda qveynis maRalCinosne-

bis mier SeTanxmebuli moqmede-

bis faqti.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, ggiirrggvvlliiaa-

nniiss ssaaqqmmiiss mmssggaavvssaadd ssttrraassbbuurrggiiss

ssaassaammaarrTTllooSSii ggaannxxiilluullii bbeevvrrii

ssxxvvaa ssaaqqmmeecc ggvviinnaaxxaavvss.. iiqq mmiiRReebbuu-

llii ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbiiss mmiiuuxxeeddaavvaadd,,

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii ssaammaarrTTlleebbrriivvii

kkuuTTxxiiTT ssiittuuaacciiaa kkvvllaavv uuccvvllee-

lliiaa.. aammiittoomm ggaauuggeebbaarriiaa,,

rraa mmiizzaannss eemmssaaxxuurreebbaa eevvrroo-

ppiiss ssaassaammaarrTTllooSSii ssaaqqmmeeeebbiiss

ggaassaaCCiivvrreebbaa??

_ amiT qveynis xeli-

suflebis mimarT damoki-

debuleba mniSvnelovnad

icvlileba. magaliTad, Tu

aqamde dasavleTSi saakaS-

vilis reJims mxardaWera

imitom hqonda, rom is

iyo demokratiis Suqura,

dRes es yalbi piari gamo-

tanili ganaCenebis mixed-

viT, TandaTanobiT qreba da

sabolood nulamde da-

dis.

soso qimeriZis SemTx-

vevamac cxadyo, rom poli-

ciur saxelmwifoSi vcxovrobT,

sadac ganukiTxaoba, adamianis

uflebebis darRveva Cveuli mov-

lenaa.

qarTuli akademiis iniciati-

viT me piradad, qeTi doliZe da

buta robaqiZis deda ia metreve-

li CavediT xaSurSi da amiT

Cveni mzadyofna gamovTqviT imas-

Tan dakavSirebiT, rom bolomde

samarTlianad gamogveZiebina mom-

xdari SemTxveva. adgilze misu-

lebs micvalebulis saxlis WiS-

kari daketili dagvxvda. WiSkar-

Tan ki samoqalaqo formaSi Cac-

muli viTom soflelebi, sinamd-

vileSi ki S.s.s. TanamSromlebi

dagvxvdnen. maT saxlSi Sesasv-

lelad seriozuli winaaRmdego-

ba gagviwies.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, rraattoomm ggaa-

ggiiwwiieess wwiinnaaaaRRmmddeeggoobbaa ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo

ssaammZZiimmrriiss ggaammooxxaattvvaazzee??

_ maTi TqmiT, ojaxis wevre-

bi mZime mdgomareobaSi iyvnen da

moqalaqeebis miReba ar surdaT.

Tumca gaugebaria, ojaxs, romel-

sac micvalebuli hyavs, misma na-

Tesavma ratom unda Tqvas uari

samZimris gamosaxatavad misul

adamianze. bolos moxda ise rom

mxolod qalebi. me qeTi doli-

Ze da ia metreveli SevediT sam-

Zimris gamosaxatavad da iq ramo-

denime CemTvis ucxo adamianebTan

erTad gardacvlilis deda da-

gvxvda. man Cveni danaxvisTanave

gviTxra, naxeT ra dReSia Cemi

Svili, naxeT, ro-

goraa nawamebi, fe-

xebi rogor aqvs

dalewili.

__ TTuu uuTTxxaarriiTT

ggaarrddaaccvvlliilliiss ddee-

ddaass,, rraa wwiinnaaaaRRmmddee-

ggoobbaa SSeeggxxvvddaaTT ssaaxx-

llSSii SSeessaassvvlleellaadd??

_ gardacvli-

lis dedam CemTvis

moulodneli pasu-

xi gagvca: Cven vin

gvekiTxeba raimes, yvelafers

Cvengan damoukideblaT wyveten,

Cveni saxeliT moqmedeben. man

gvTxova rogorme mogvexerxebina

da gardacvlili xaSuris raion-

Si gadagveyvana samdicino eqsper-

tizis Casatareblad. Tumca mas

Semdeg rac gardacvlilis deda

ramdenime wuTiT gareT gasvlis

Semdeg oTaxSi absoluturad

Secvlili dabrunda. gviTxra,

mis Svils Catarebuli hqonda

eqspertiza da xelaxla misi

tanjva-wameba aRar undoda.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, SSeeiiZZlleebbaa

iiTTqqvvaass,, rroomm ssoossoo qqiimmeerriiZZiiss oojjaa-

xxiiss wweevvrreebbzzee zzeewwoollaa xxddeebbaa??

_ imedi imisa, rom es ojaxi

simarTlis dasadgenad da saku-

Tari Svilis Rirsebis dasacavad

ibrZolebs, jerjerobiT, ar

maqvs. piriqiT, gardacvlilis

ojaxi Tavisi qmedebiT im mkvle-

lebis gverdiT dgeba, vinc soso

qimeriZe awames da sikvdilamde

miiyvanes.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, rraa SSeeiiZZ-

lleebbaa ggaammxxddaarriiyyoo aamm SSeemmzzaarraavvii

ffaaqqttiiss mmiizzeezzii??

_ am adamians ar hqonda ara-

nairi statusi, arc mowmis, arc

rogorc dazaralebulis, an Tun-

dac baraldebulis, amitom, ga-

ugebaria, ratom gadaiyvanes po-

liciis sammarTveloSi. bunebaSi

ar arsebobs aseve arc dakiTx-

vis oqmi.

soso qimeriZe opoziciurad

ganwyobili adamiani iyo da sof-

lis Tavyrilobebis dros sakma-

od Tamamad lanZRavda xelisuf-

lebas. amitom is faqti, TiTqos

sofelSi aryis qvabi daikarga da

amis gamo policiam adamiani sa-

sikvdilod gaimeta, naklebad

savaraudoa.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,,

sswwoorreedd ggaannssxxvvaavveebbuullii ppoolliittii-

kkuurrii SSeexxeedduulleebbiiss ggaammoo ddaaiissaajjaa

ssoossoo qqiimmeerriiZZee??

_ dazustebiT verafers

getyviT, ubralod, logikuria,

rom gardacvalebuls Tavi ar-

yis qvabis gulisTvis ratom un-

da gaewira? bolo-bolo cixeeb-

Si patimrebi Tavis gadasarCenad

iseTi danaSaulebebs ibraleben,

rom Znelad Tu vinmes mousme-

nia. mgonia, ufro sxva rame dgas

am faqtis miRma. Tumca rac ar

unda iyos faqti faqtad rCeba.

amitom saTanadod unda daisa-

jos xaSuris policiis ufrosi

da yvela is adamiani visac kavSi-

ri aqvs momxdarTan. amasTan, mi-

nistrma pasuxismgebloba unda

igrZnos da gadagdes dakave-

buli Tanamdebobidan.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, rroo-

ggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT rraattoomm mmaallaavvss

mmoommxxddaarrss SSiinnaaggaann ssaaqqmmeeTTaa ssaa-

mmiinniissttrroo?? vvaannoo mmeerraabbiiSSvviillss

xxoomm SSeeeeZZlloo TTaannaammddeebboobbiiddaann

ggaaeeTTaavviissuufflleebbiinnaa xxaaSSuurriiss

ppoolliicciiiiss uuffrroossii ddaa zzeeddmmee-

ttii mmiiTTqqmmaa-mmooTTqqmmaa aaeecciilleebbii-

nnaa??

_ xelisuflebas Sinagan

saqmeTa saministro wminda-

nis doneze hyavs ayvanili,

amitom am miTis dangreva ar

undaT, Sesabamisad, yvelana-

irad cdiloben momxdaris

damalvas. policias, ro-

gorc isini amtkiceben, Tu

danaSauli ar Caudenia, maSin

gvanaxon policiis video-kameris

mier gadaRebuli video-masala.

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, xxeelliissuuff-

lleebbaa,, CCaannss,, rroomm mmoommxxddaarriiss mmiiCCqq-

mmaallvvaass ccddiilloobbss.. qqiimmeerriiZZiiss ffaaqq-

ttiiTT ssaaxxaallxxoo ddaammccvveelliicc ddaaiinnttee-

rreessddaa.. rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, eess ggaarree-

mmooeebbaa ggaaxxddiiss SSeessaaZZlleebbeellss ggaammoo-

ZZiieebbaa ssaammaarrTTlliiaannaadd CCaattaarrddeess??

_ saxalxo damcvelisgan ve-

li, rom parlamentSi daayenebs

ministris gadadgomis sakiTxs,

aseve xaSuris policiis ufrosi-

sa da yvela im adamianis pasuxis-

mgeblobis sakiTxs, visac uSua-

lo kavSiri aqvs momxdarTan.

miranda nabaxteveli

nana kakabaZe: nana kakabaZe: soso qimeriZis gardacvalebis

mizezi, savaraudod, misi politikuri Sexeduleba gaxda

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moaxloebuli 9 marti qqarT-

veli eris erT-eerT mniSvnelovan

dRRes gvaxsenebs. mZimed damTavr-

da maSin yovelive, xalxma ver

apatia sakavSiro mTavrobas eris

Seuracxyofa, amitomac gamoxa-

tes protesti, romelic sisx-

lis fasad daujda ers.

sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT vesa-

ubrebiT maSindeli aqqciebis mo-

nawiles, profesor tarielsarTanias.

_ batono tariel, rogorc

maSindeli ambebis monawile, ras

ityviT, rogor daiwyo yovelive,

winaswar dagegmili iyo stali-

nis ZeglTan aqciebi? an ram ga-

moiwvia im ambebis gaxseneba be-

ladis gardacvalebidan 3 wlis

Semdeg anu 1956 wels? rogori

politikuri situacia iyo Cvens

qveyanaSi?

_ saqme imaSi gaxldaT, rom

1956 wlis TebervalSi Sedga

skkp meoce yriloba, sadac gamo-

vida miqoiani da aRniSna, rom

pirovnebis kulti unda davZli-

oT, aman Zalian dagvazaralao.

yvelas gaukvirda, Tu ratom am-

bobda is amas. saqme imaSi gaxl-

daT rom Turme xruSCovs gaeke-

Tebina moxseneba, stalinis pi-

rovnebis kultis Sesaxeb, rome-

lic ar gaxmianda, Semdeg ki igi-

ve aTqmevines miqoians, aintere-

sebdaT, Tu ra reaqcia mohyvebo-

da am yovelives.

reagireba iyo Zalian mwvave.

male, ukve 5 marts gavrcelda

Wori, rom sanapiroze unda

aefeTqebinaT stalinis Zegli. is

mdebareobda `dedaenis~ Zeglis

mopirdapire mxares. es iyo Ter-

Tmetmetriani monumenti. Wori

imdenad moedo qalaqs, rom wave-

di da vnaxe Zegli, Soridan Se-

vaTvaliere. iq araferi ar xde-

boda, mxolod, Soriaxlo idga

erTi milicioneri. Tumca, gar-

Semomyofni ambobdnen Zeglis mo-

salodneli afeTqebis Taobaze.

ori dRis Semdeg, 7 marts,

Tbilisis saxelmwifo universi-

tetis saerTo sacxovreblis

(mdebareobda vakeSi, WavWavaZis

prospeqtze) meSvide korpusSi,

sadac ekonomikis fakultetis

biWebi cxovrobdnen, Cemma ramo-

denime amxanagma (zaal Cikvila-

Zis TaosnobiT,) me maSin iq ar

viyavi, vswavlobdi universite-

tis garda d. arayiSvilis saxe-

lobis musikalur saswavlebel-

Si, vmRerodi saxelmwifo kape-

laSi), gaakeTes gvirgvini, Caia-

res prospeqtze, miitanes es

gvirgvini sanapiroze da dades

stalinis ZeglTan. es rom mo-

saxleobam naxa, saRamos Zeglis

mimdebare teritoria gvirgvine-

biTa da yvavilebiT daifara.

xalxs guli moecaT da ase sca-

des am Zeglis gadarCena.

im dRes iq bevri adamiani

gaxldaT dReisaTvis cnobilni,

Torem im dros yvela axalgaz-

rda iyo. STambeWdavi iyo yvavi-

lebis akvani, romelic iq maSin

Salva rCeuliSvilma moitana

(vaxtang rCeuliSvilis mama),

ase moiqca uamravi xalxi.

ukve rva marts, diliT, uni-

versitetSi mimavals vakeSi, ma-

Sindel saxanZro razmTan (puS-

kinis saxelobis institutis

win) transporti gaCerebuli da-

mixvda, quCaSi ki iyo uamravi

xalxi, romelic erT kacs gacxa-

rebiT ekamaTeboda. is xalxs

guldagul usmenda da pasuxs

scemda im motiviT, rom maT da-

exmareboda. es pirovneba gaxl-

daT maSindeli cekas pirveli

mdivani vasil mJavanaZe, romel-

sac gverdiT edga maSindeli or-

jonikiZis r-nis raikomis mdiva-

ni. isic Zalian Sewuxebuli iyo.

xalxma fexiT daiwyo svla,

vasil mJavanaZe maT gverdiT gah-

yva. rodesac universitetis

pirvel korpuss miuaxlovdnen,

mJavanaZe da raikomis mdivani

xalxs gamoeyvnen da pirveli

korpusis qveda sarTulze gan-

lagebul stambaSi Sevidnen.

gadawyvetileba miviReT da

yvelani erTad wavediT ZeglTan,

SevuerTdiT demonstrantebs. im

dRes iyo wvima, miuxedavad ami-

sa, iyo uamravi xalxi da ismo-

da lozungi _`gaumarjos sta-

lins!~ aq am dReebSi gamodiod-

nen maSindeli msaxiobebi, poete-

bi, studentebi. Zalian aqtua-

luri iyo maSin da ar SemiZlia,

ar gavixseno ioseb noneSvilis

_`mamav Zvirfaso!~, gamomsvlel-

Ta Soris iyvnen akaki vasaZe, aka-

ki xorava, sergo zaqariaZe, ni-

ko musxeliSvili _ mokled es

iyo saocari aRtkineba, aRmafre-

na romelmac yvela moicva.

swored am dRes gamoacxades,

rom saqarTveloSi Camosuli

iyo CineTis jarebis mTavarsar-

dali jude, romelic maSin

krwanisSi samTavrobo reziden-

ciaSi imyofeboda da axalgazr-

debma gadawyvites misTvis weri-

lis gadacema. es werilic iqve,

mitngze Seiqmna. marTlac wave-

diT. aivanze gamovida jude, ro-

melsac boZze acocebulma axal-

gazrdam werili gadasca. (kare-

bidan masTan ar SegviSves). amis

mere kvlav davbrundiT stali-

nis ZeglTn. maSin iq idga 100

000 kaci!

_ ra iyo am xalxis sulis-

kveTeba maSin?

_ stalinis Seuracxofa, mi-

si kultis gamocxadeba xalxma

aRiqva rogorc mTeli eris Seu-

racxyofa. es iyo mTavari. iyo

demonstrantebis mowodebac ase-

ve, rom konstituciiT gvekuTv-

nis ssrk-dan gasvla da swored

axla unda gavideTo. TandaTan

stalinis kultis dagmoba, po-

litikur mowodebebSi gadaizar-

da. saRamos saxlSi davbrundiT,

aq ukve gamaoca iman, rom radi-

oSi ismoda ara ssrk-s himni,

aramed saqarTvelos himni, esec

Zalian uCveulod meCvena, manam-

de mas radioTi ar gadascemdnen.

es faqti yvelasaTvis gasak-

viri iyo, nuTu xelisufleba

xalxis mxares dadga? _ es iyo

kiTxva, romelic yvelas akvir-

vebda. radioTi gamodioda vano

javaxiSvili, msaxiobi, romelic

gasaocrad mReroda _ `vefxisa

da moymis baladas~ _ da amiT

sul sxva SemarTeba da Zala ema-

teboda xalxs. praqtikulad

leqsebis umetesoba iqve, Zegl-

Tan iqmneboda.

ukve 9 marts mTeli studen-

toba droSebiT SeiaraRebulni

wavediT gorSi sabargo manqane-

biT. iqac mis ZeglTan didi mi-

tingi gaimarTa, ismoda mowode-

bebi, rom xruSCovi da miqoiani

gamoyvanil yofiliyvnen mTavro-

bis Semadgenlobidan, stalinis

augad xsenebis gamo saRamos

TbilisSi davbrundiT. noneSvi-

li da sxva poetebi TiTqmis yo-

veldRe mitingze iyvnen.

bolos viRacam Tqva, rodem-

de unda vidgeT aq? rogor mo-

viqceT Semdgom? maSin gadawyda

da moifiqres, rom vinaidan 9

marti molotovis dabadebis

dRen iyo, depeSiT mielocaT mo-

mitingeebs es dRe da emcnoT sa-

qarTveloSi momxdari ambebi. Tan

iyo xalxis Txovna aseTi, rom

is Casdgomoda ssrk-s xelisuf-

lebas saTaveSi.

_ ra Tanamdeboba ekava mas?

_ maSin is iyo sakavSiro

sagareo saqmeTa ministri. wavi-

da ramodenime biWi da waiRes

es depeSa gasagzavnad. es iyo

dRis 12 saaTi. mere Cven wave-

diT gorSi, xolo iqidan dab-

runebulebs ukve sxva situacia

dagvxvda. ZeglTan gamomsvle-

lebs ukve nebas aRar aZlevdnen

rom gamosuliyvnen, xolo is

biWebi, romelnic kavSirgabmu-

lobis saxlSi mividnen depeSis

gasagzavnad _ daakaves! rodesac

xalxSi es ambavi gavrcelda,

yvelam moiTxova, rom wavsuli-

yaviT da isini gagvenTavisuf-

lebina _ es xdeba ukve 9 marts

Rame _ TerTmetis naxevarze!

wavida jgufi _ romelTac

surdaT erTi ram _ gaegoT ra-

tom daakaves axalgazrdebi, ra

moxda. zogjer amboben, rom iq

mTavrobas vinme ebrZoda. ase ar

iyo, carieli xeliT vinme jars

an miliciels SeebrZoleboda?

cota xnis mere, Rame, ukve ga-

isma iaraRis xma, avtomatebis

kakani, tyviebis srola kavSir-

gabmulobis saxlidan. am dros

xalxis umetesoba ZeglTan rCe-

boda, maT Soris mec. zemodan

gamoCnda xalxi, romelTac

Tqves, rom gvesvrian, gvxocaven

da vnaxeT daWrilebi. gasaocari

iyo xalxis SemarTeba. aravin

daSlila an gaqceula. piriqiT

Tqves (gaixseneT, iq iyo asi

aTasi moqalaqe) wavideT, Cvenc

iq mivideT sadac xocaven xal-

xso. marTlac wavediT kavSir-

gabmulobis saxlTan, sadac Sem-

zaravi suraTi dagvixvda. iyo

tyviamfrqvevebi, (pirvelad vna-

xe) da merve legionis garda

sxva jaric, kbilebamde Seiara-

Rebuli. ukve yvela fiqrobda

Tavis gadarCenaze. vakis mimar-

TulebiT veRar wamovediT, iqi-

dan jaris kolonebi moedinebo-

da, amitom davbrundiT sanapi-

roze. aq sxva ambavic SevityveT.

Turme gaugiaT am ambebis Sesa-

xeb qarTul sajariso formebs

baTumSi da quTaisSi da gada-

ewyvitaT TbilisSi xalxis da-

xmareba. isini ganaiaraRes, To-

rem marTla samkvdro-sasicocx-

lo Setakeba moxdeboda. iseTi,

rom Tbilisisgan araferi aRar

darCeboda. SemdgomSi es qarTu-

li nawilebi gaauqmes!

_ sanapiroze 9 marts xalxs

merve legionis jariskacebma es-

roles da daxoces, ramdeni ka-

ci mokvda savaraudod?

_ diax, ZiriTadad maT daxo-

ces xalxi, momswreni ambobdnen

rom erTi axalgazrda qali, sva-

niZe quTaisidan, Suaze gafatres

xiStiT da mtkvarSi gadaagdes.

mtkvarSi bevri daiRupa. amboben

150 kaci zogi met cifrsac asa-

xelebs. es dRemde gaurkvevelia.

micvalebulebs ki panaSvids ar

uxdidnen ise marxavdnen, Zalian

mZime dro iyo.

eTer kasreliSvili

vasil mJavanaZe mivida stalinis ZeglTan da daamtkica,rom is eris gverdiT iyo

`ganaxlebuli ssaqarTvelosTvis~ _

rusebs rrac ddidebulad aqvT ggamomuSavebuli,

es aaris aaneqsiis xxelovnebapartia ,,ganaxlebuli saqarTvelosTvis“ ru-

seTis mier afxazeTisa da `samxreT

oseTis~ okupacias aRiarebs da

acxadebs, rom amis uaryofa ar Se-

iZleba.

rogorc dRes gamarTul pres-

konferenciaze partiis regionulma

mdivanma laSa gvasaliam ganacxada,

saerTaSoriso samarTalSi da po-

litikaSi arsebobs iseTi terminebi,

rasac gverds ver auvli.

,,rusebs rac didebulad aqvT

gamomuSavebuli, es aris aneqsiis

xelovneba, amis uaryofa ar SeiZle-

ba. mTavaria, rogor miudgebi am sakiTxs, rom

aRmofxvra es problema da moxdes deokupacia.

Cven varT marTlac dazaralebuli qveyana. Cven

davkargeT biWebi“, – ganacxada gvasaliam da

dasZina, rom partiis saerTaSoriso mdivans min-

dia guluas, romelic amJamad ruseTSi moRvawe-

obs, vladimer putinisaTvis arCevnebSi gamarjve-

ba ar miulocavs.

gvasalias TqmiT, mindia gulia

amas ver gaakeTebda, radgan arCev-

nebis damTavrebamde putins uTq-

vams, rom afxazeTis da samaCablos

sakiTxis ar gadaxedavda.

,,batonma mindiam ganacxada,

rom es iyo misTvis absoluturad

miuRebeli. man Tqva, rom me ver

mivulocav mas gamarjvebas, sanam

ar gavarkvev masTan am sakiTxs da

vitoveb imeds, rom es aris Jur-

nalistebis Secdoma“, _ ganacxada

gvasaliam.

laSa gvasalias informaciiT, mindia gulua

vladimir putins uaxloes dReebSi Seexvdeba.

`medianiusi~

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Tomas de vaali

20 wlis win sabWoTa kavSi-

ris nangrevebidan 15 axali qve-

yana gaCnda _ dangreuli mono-

liTis araTanabari namsxvreve-

bi. erTi istoria Txutmetad iq-

ca. sabWoTa kavSiris eqspertTa

umravlesoba mas Semdeg cdi-

lobs movlenebs ar CamorCes,

magram rogor unda aRwero es

gamravlebuli istoriebi?

retrospeqtulad cxadi xde-

ba, rom dasavlelma komentato-

rebma verc iwinaswarmetyveles

da verc axsnes is, rac am qvey-

nebSi moxda: maTi midrekileba

gauTavebeli krizisebisken, maTi

ucnauri da hibriduli politi-

kuri sistemebi, maTi arastabi-

luri stabiluroba.

interpretatorebi didxans

cdilobdnen am qveynebisTvis,

romelTac dasavleTisgan da

xSirad erTmaneTisganac, sruli-

ad gansxvavebuli istoria da

kulturuli winapirobebi aqvT,

danarCen msoflioSi miRebuli

modelebi moergoT („gadasvla

sabazro ekonomikaze“, „partiu-

li sistemis evolucia“). me wa-

kiTxuli maqvs ruseTis premier-

ministris „eTnocentrul pat-

riotizmze“, misi „warmomadgen-

lobiTi demokratiis xafangze“

da imaze, rom is „neopatrimoni-

alur saxelmwifos aSenebs“,

mokled, Zalian Wkvianuri raRa-

cebi wamikiTxavs. mTeli am sity-

vieri konstruqciebidan me mSve-

nivrad agebuli erTi-ori mode-

lis Sesaxeb gavige, (rogorc

putinisTvis, aseve politolo-

gebisTvis), magram ara is, rasac

daveZeb – sazogadoebis cxovre-

bis xedvas Signidan.

hoda, ai aseTi, arc Tu ise

zerele mosazreba gamiCnda: iqneb

yofili sabWoTa kavSiris gage-

bisaTvis is ajobebs, Tu poli-

tologiur saxelmZRvaneloebs

gverdze gadavdebT da amis nacv-

lad nikoloz gogolis, anton

Cexovisa da Teodore dostoevs-

kis wignebs gadavSliT?

es martooden gonebaWvreti-

Ti eqsperimenti rodia; aRmoCn-

da, rom am avtorebis nawarmoe-

bebi, romlebic mecxramete sau-

kuneSi da meoce saukunis da-

sawyisSi daiwera, gasaocrad er-

geba yofili sabWoTa sivrcis

didi nawilis politikur rea-

lobas, iqneba es putinis avto-

ritaruli mmarTvelobis mou-

lodneli simyife ruseTSi, Tu

mezobeli ukrainis modernizebis

mcdelobis mudmivi marcxi. saq-

me isaa, rom yofili sabWoTa

qveynebis umetesoba ruseTis

orsaukunovani avtokratiis

produqtia, avtokratiisa, ro-

melmac dabada msoflio

mniSvnelobis udidesi mwer-

lebi. imasac amboben, rom

pirvelis arsebobam ganapi-

roba meore, rom mkacrma ca-

ristulma cenzuram, gaxeve-

bulma sajaro samsaxurebma,

ganaTlebuli klasis inte-

leqtualurma SimSilma xe-

li Seuwyo didi nawarmoebe-

bis dabadebas. puSkini da

tolstoi, gogoli, Cexovi

da dostoevski, mxolod

kulturis interpretato-

rebi rodi iyvnen – isini

popularuli adamianebi, Ta-

visi epoqis sakvanZo mora-

luri da inteleqtualuri

faseulobebis gamxmovaneb-

lebic gaxldnen. maT aRmer-

Tebdnen imisTvis, rom aR-

werdnen rTul garemoebebs,

romlebSic mkiTxveli sakuTar

Tavs scnobda da axla cnobs.

Tavis gasaocar wignSi, 2010

wlis bestselerSi „Sepyrobi-

lebi“ (The Possessed) elif ba-

tumani imaze wers, Tu ratom

SeiZleba iqces rusuli lite-

ratura gzamkvlevad umetes

cxovrebiseul, didsa da patara

kiTxvebze pasuxis Ziebisas. „ta-

tiana da onegini, ana da vrons-

ki“, _ wers batumani, ixsenebs

ra rusuli literaturis yve-

laze cnobil personaJebs, „yo-

vel nabijze, adamianis qcevis

saidumlo da siyvarulis buneba,

rogorc Cans, ganuyrelad ukav-

Sirdeba yvelafers rusuls“.

Cemi idea cota ufro mokr-

Zalebulia, me gTavazobT mokle

eskizebs imisa, Tu rogor SeiZ-

leba movargoT rusuli lite-

raturis didi nawarmoebebi sam

post-sabWoTa qveyanas, im sam

qveyanas, romelic dasavlel ko-

mentatorebSi yvelaze cxovel

interess iwvevs, esenia: ruseTi,

ukraina da saqarTvelo. es kla-

sikosebi, romelTagan TiToeuli

saukuneze did xnis win cxov-

robda, iseTi specifikuri de-

talebiTa da grandiozuli pano-

ramiT mogvamarageben, romelic

ase aklia modelebiT gadatvir-

Tul politikur teqstebs.

ruseTi, rogorc

gogolis `revizori~

ruseTis umZimesi tvirTi

imaSia, rom mas arasodes mouci-

lebia feodaluri tradicia,

personoficirebuli Zalaufle-

bis Cveva. mecxramete saukunis

dasasrulamde ruseTis mosaxle-

obis umetesobas yma-glexoba Se-

adgenda. amave dros feodalebi

damoukideblad rodi marTavdnen

ymebs - yvela maTgani emsaxure-

boda saxelmwifos da sakuTre-

bas mefis wyalobiT flobda.

sabWoTa sistemam, amjerad ukve

centralizebuli sakuTrebisa

da komunisturi partiis mono-

poliis meSveobiT es ierarqia

aRadgina. bolo wlebSi, axla

ukve post-sabWoTa epoqisaTvis,

es sistema kidev erTxel gamoi-

yena putinma da e.w. „Zalaufle-

bis vertikali“ SemoiRo, Tumca

Tavis moqalaqeebs bevrad ufro

meti privatuli sivrce dauto-

va. magram, rogorc putinma es

amas winaT aRmoaCina, sistema ga-

saocrad myife gamodga. mas mud-

mivi meTvalyureoba sWirdeba,

radgan is damokidebulebaTa

jaWvzea Camokidebuli, suldg-

mulobs favoritizmiT, meqrTa-

meobiT, sicruiTa da orpirobi-

Taa damZimebuli.

es sistema SeiZleba uecrad

CamoiSalos. mefe SeiZleba Za-

lian Tavneba aRmoCndes, an avad

gaxdes, an Semoelios fuli da

veRar gadaixados valebi. da ai,

am dros, ruseTis moqalaqeebs,

Tu isini CaTvlian, rom yvela-

feri es Zalisxmevad Rirs, sav-

sebiT SeswevT Zala Tavis mmar-

Tvelebs problemebi Seuqmnan.

rogorc ruseTis specialistma

sem grinma Tqva, „arsebobs miTi

rusebis pasiurobis Sesaxeb. es

ar aris swori: rusebi agresiu-

lad umoqmedoni rian.“ amiT mas

imis Tqma surda, rom rusebi bu-

nebrivad konservatiulni arian,

urCevniaT gadarCenis strategi-

aze koncentrirdnen, vidre iseT

riskze wavidnen, romelic maTi

mdgomareobis gauaresebis safr-

Txes Seicavs. Tu darwmundebian,

rom mefe SiSvelia, isini pro-

tests gamoTqvamen. ase moxda

1989-1991 w.w., rodesac sabWoe-

Tis sistema CamoiSala da, uf-

ro mokrZalebuli masStabiT, am

bolo TveebSi, dekembris sapar-

lamento arCevnebis gayalbebis

Semdeg.

swored aman mimiyvana gogo-

lis „revizoramde“. gogoli ru-

suli cxovrebis daxelovnebuli

karikaturistia. imis Tqmac Se-

iZleba, rom mas veluri siyva-

ruliT uyvars ruseTi. misi pi-

esa „revizori“ rusuli Teatra-

luri scenis udidesi komediaa

da amave dros yvelaze gamanad-

gurebeli satira, sarke im ru-

suli tradiciisa, romelic

wvrilman despotizms mefidan

ymamde avrcelebs. cnobilia, rom

rodesac 1836 wels nikoloz

pirvelma am piesis mixedviT

dadgmuli speqtakli naxa, aseTi

ram wamoiZaxa: „yvelas mogvxvda,

magram me yvelaze metad“.

piesis fabula martivia: pa-

tara qalaqis korumpirebuli

Tavi igebs, rom peterburgidan

imis gamosaZieblad, Tu rogor

midis saqmeebi adgilze, revizo-

ri Camodis. qalaqSi panika iwye-

ba, yvela meqrTamea, axali saa-

vadmyofosTvis gamoyofili Tan-

xa gaflangulia, magram aSenebiT

araferi aSenebula, xolo gamo-

uyenebeli saxelmwifo dawesebu-

lebis vestibiulSi ixvebi bu-

doben.

Semdeg ki qalaqis Tavi da

misi xelqviTi wvrilfexoba sa-

bediswero Secdomas uSveben da

axalgazrda qalaqel kacs, rome-

lic sastumroSi cxovrobs, re-

vizorad CaTvlian. xlestakovi,

ase hqvia Camosuls, realurad

uyairaTo da usircxvilo

mflangvelia da mTeli fuli

banqos TamaSSi waago. is myisie-

rad sargeblobs qalaqis Cinov-

nikebis mliqvneluri yuradRe-

biT, adgilobriv biurokratebs

fuls arTmevs, xolo qalaqis

Tavis colsa da qaliSvils pe-

terburgSi Tavisi cxovrebis

Sesaxeb arnaxulad Selamazebu-

li da gamogonili istoriebiT

acdunebs.

iseve, rogorc gasuli sau-

kunis ruseTis istoriaSi, pie-

sis finalSic TamaSdeba ambo-

xis, absolutizmisa da kraxis

epizodebi. amboxebuli vaWrebi

stumars qalaqis Tavis ukanono-

baze SesCivleben. qalaqis Tavi

maT imiT ugebs, rom xlestako-

visa da Tavisi qaliSvilis da-

niSvnis ambavs acnobebs, acno-

bebs imas, rom ojaxi peterbur-

gSi gadadis sacxovreblad. is

dascinis vaWars da eubneba, „ax-

la Cems fexrTiTa xar, ratom?

imitom, rom gajobeT, magram,

aba, odnav mainc gagetana Seni?

lafSi amomsvridi da TavSic

Camcxebdi.“

mere ki situacia icvleba,

xlestakovi qalaqidan ipareba,

fostalioni Cumad gaxsnis we-

rils, romelSic gaiZvera Cade-

nil TaRliTobas ikvexnis. tyu-

ili aSkaravdeba da qalaqi gaog-

nebulia im cnobiT, rom namdvi-

li revizori marTlac ukve Ca-

mosulia. bolo epizodSi sru-

liad gadareuli qalaqis Tavi

mimarTavs yvelas, Tavis xelqve-

iTebsac da mayureblebsac, „vis

dasciniT? sakuTar Tavs?“

putinis ruseTSi iseve, ro-

gorc nikoloz pirvelis epoqa-

Si yvelam icis Tavisi adgili

da yvela monawileobs korufci-

ul praqtikaSi, an angarebiT, an

inerciiT, an orive am mizezis

gamo. magram yvelaferi saTaveSi

myof kaczea damokidebuli – me-

feze, qalaqis Tavze, prezident-

ze. rodesac Zalauflebis ilu-

zia orTqldeba – revizori

TaRliTia, xolo prezidenti

motyuebuli, yvelaferi myisie-

rad SeiZleba CamoiSalos. piesa-

Si wesrigi aseve myisierad aRd-

geba: axali revzori Tavis nebas

axorcielebs, speqtaklis bolo

„munj scenaSi“, miuxedavad imi-

sa, rom gaognebuli personaJebi

sityvasac ki ar warmoTqvamen,

Cven egzistenciuri Tavzardace-

mis mowmeni vxdebiT.

ruseTis mudmivi gasaWiri

amaSia, – is trialebs avtokra-

tul wesrigsa da socialur ka-

tastrofebs Soris, ai, ase ga-

nicdeba rusebis umetesobisTvis

post-sabWoTa periodi 1990-

iani wlebis Semdeg. „revizor-

Si“ igive dilemaa aRwerili. Tu

gogolis am piesidan dRes sap-

rotestod gamosulma demonst-

rantebma raime daskvna unda ga-

moitanon, es daskvna SemdegSi

mdgomareobs – maT sistemis

Sesacvlelad unda ibrZolon

da ara mxolod im kacisa, ro-

melic sistemis saTaveSia moq-

ceuli.

rogor gvixsnis gogoli post-sabWoTa qveynebis arss

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gza atenis xeobaSi mtkvris

marjvena sanapiroze, goridan xi-

dis-Tavis gavliT miemarTeba, mag-

ram Tu manamde gorijvarze mogix-

daT asvla, mZlavri manqanis Sem-

TxvevaSi, sofel wedisze Camavali

mokle gziTac SegeZlebaT sargeb-

loba.

Cveni jgufi gorijvarze 3 iv-

niss _ giorgobis sworze moxvda.

aba, ras vifiqrebdiT, rom aq 26

maisidan yovel Svideulze sagan-

gebo wirva-locva ewyoboda da

araerTi mlocvel-mavedrebeli

adioda. sataZro kompleqss kibe

CrdiloeTidan auyveba. viRas ar

vxedavT am grZel kibeze: axalgaz-

rdas Tu moxucs, col-qmars Tu

mama-Svils; vis mamali mihyavs Se-

sawirad, vis _ cxvari, vis sanTe-

li. gorijvars avadmyofTa gankur-

nebis saswaulmoqmed Zalas miawe-

ren.

gorijvari goridan samxreT-

dasavleTiT azidul kldezea aR-

marTuli da Zalian Soridanac ki

TvalSisacemia. XVIII saukuneSi

galavniT SemozRuduli `wm.gior-

gi~ 1920 wlis miwisZvram mTlia-

nad daangria da axali taZari ar-

cTu Soreul warsulSi Zvel sa-

Zirkvelze aigo. igi fleTili qvi-

Ta da aguriT aSenebuli Cveuleb-

rivi darbazuli saydaria. sakur-

Txevlis win aRmarTulia xis di-

di, moWedili jvari, romlis qveS,

miwis siRrmeSi, legendis Tanax-

mad, mTavarmowamis Tavi da sxva

wminda nawilebia davanebuli.

wedisSi veSvebiT, mze Subis-

tarzea. sofelSi kacis WaWaneba

araa, yvela baRebSi gakrefila. we-

disis istoriis mcodne kacs dave-

ZebT. gagvimarTla _ literatori

doger SatikiSvili gavicaniT, ro-

melsac soflis Tavze SemorCenil

taZris nangrevebTan avyavarT. aqe-

dan aramarto wedisi iSleba xe-

lisguliviT, aramed mTeli aTre-

visxevis (tanas marcxena Senakadi)

sanaxebi. taZari galavanSi mjdara

da misi msgavsi didi, uxeSad gaT-

lili movardisfro lodebiT

augia ostats. taZari mogvianebi-

Taa aSenebuli, mcire cixe ki X

saukunisaa da, rogorc varaudo-

ben, `tanas xevis~ cixesimagreTa

sistemis nawili iyo. saydari wm.

giorgis saxelobisaa da bastionis

aRmosavleT kuTxeSi CaudgamT. mi-

si erTaderTi, samxreTis kari ad-

re garSemosavlelis karibWeSi ga-

modioda, romlisgan axla mcireo-

deni nawilia Semonaxuli. saydris

interierSi aqa-iq bJutavs daSre-

tili mxatvrobis abrisebi.

Cveni megzuri d.SatikiSvili

gamoTqvams varauds, rom swored

atenis xeobidan wasulma vereleb-

ma da wediselebma daaarses sofe-

li vere skvireTis xeobaSi, anu

dRevandel TbilisSi da wedisi _

raWaSi, jejoris xeobaSi, sadac

XVIII saukuneSi cixec augiaT. Tu

es versia misaRebia, maSin atenis

xeobidan mosaxleobis erTi nawi-

lis gadasaxleba XVIII saukunemde

unda momxdariyo, radgan vaxuSti

batoniSvili kargad icnobs ro-

gorc jejoris sofel wediss, ise

veres _ TbilisSi Camomavali mdi-

nare skvireTis meore saxels.

sainteresoa orive toponimi:

`vere~ da `wedisi~. ivane javaxiS-

vilis mosazrebiT `vere~ foneti-

kurad Secvlili `beri~ aris. gar-

da imisa, rom beri xandazmuls

niSnavs, igi mkvrivsa da mTavarsac

gulisxmobda adre. xalxuri gad-

mocemiT, rogorc g.SatikiSvili

gveubneba, vere imitom darqmevia

gardatenSi mdgar cixesimagres,

rom mters ver auRia. (es simarT-

le ar aris _ veris cixe ramden-

jermea dapyrobili).

wedisis warmomavloba, albaT,

eWvs ar unda iwvevdes: `weda-eese

ars yovelive Rvinis Sesasmeli

WurWeli ( 3. mef. 7,26). naxe saw-

de, WurWeli, Seadare: `wdeva~

gveubneba sulxan-saba. rogorc

Cans, sofeli wedisi an wdeebis

ostatebiT iyo ganTqmuli, an ara-

da odesRac mwdis mamuli iyo.

wedisis gaRma, tanas meore na-

pirze, cnobili xidisTavis samx-

reTiT, patara sofeli jebiri

mdebareobs. xidisTavis gverdiT

jebiris arseboba, albaT, imas gva-

fiqrebinebs, rom aq raRac isto-

riuli jebiric iyo aRmarTuli,

magram axla aRar arsebobs da mi-

si xsovna soflis saxelma Seina-

xa. magram, nuras ukacravad _ aqa-

urebs da mTel atenis xeobas am

TemasTan dakavSirebiT sul sxva

mosazreba aqvT: arsebobs legenda,

romelsac aramarto es sofeli,

aramed xeobis saTaveebSi mdebare

ori sxva adgilic ukavSirdeba.

amitom mkiTxvels bodiSs movuxdi:

es legenda Cveni momavali mogza-

urobisTvis unda Semovinaxo.

sofel jebiris Semdeg, iq sa-

dac tanas misi marjvena Senakadi

vere uerTdeba, mdebareobs kidev

erTi mcire sofeli gardateni

(albaT, gareTa ateni), romelic

gaRma mdebare patara atens gasc-

qeris. gardatenidan 3-4 kilomet-

rSi, tanasa da veres wyalgamyof

serze warmarTulia is cixe, rom-

lis Taobaze ukve amdeni visaub-

reT zeviT.

veris cixe didi ar aris

(44,6X14X8m), magram iseT adgil-

zea aRmarTuli, rom atenisa da

veris xeobebis garda, goris mida-

moebsac uTvalTvalebs. es da ate-

nis cixe erT periodSi unda iyos

agebuli. maTi cal-calke arseboba

warmoudgenelic kia. is, vinc Si-

da qarTlis xelSi Cagdebas moiwa-

dinebda, jer ufliscixes unda da-

patroneboda, Semdeg ki atenis, ve-

res da mdinare TeZmis xeobaSi ar-

sebul rkonis (igive degcixe) bas-

tionebs, maT gareSe qvemo qarTl-

Si gadamaval gzebs ver gaakont-

rolebda. adre es cixeebi, iseve

rogorc mTeli Sida qarTli, spas-

petis sagamgeos warmoadgenda da

calkeul xeobebs misdami morCi-

lebaSi myofi mcire erisTavebi

anu aznaurebi patronobdnen. arab-

Ta Semosvlis droidan, TviT maSi-

nac ki roca sarkinozTa batonoba

Sesustda, tanas xevi Tbilisis sa-

amiroSi moiazreboda. IX saukunis

meore naxevridan mdgomareoba icv-

leba da xalifatisagan sanaxevrod

damoukidebeli Tbilisis amira

kontrols kargavs am tertorieb-

ze. verisa da atenis cixesimagree-

bi swored amis mere unda iyos

agebuli an safuZvlianad gazr-

dil-gadakeTebuli. IX saukunis

bolos mas jer afxazeTis (das.sa-

qarTvelos) mefe konstantine III

ikavebs, Semdeg _ misi Ze giorgi II

da SviliSvili leon III. erTxans

es cixesimagreebi, mTel Sida qar-

TlTan erTad, leonis Zmam, demet-

re III-c SeinarCuna, X saukunis

bolodan ki tanas xevs, kldekar-

Tan erTad, baRvaSebi daeuflnen.

XI saukunidan XVI saukunis Sua-

xanamde atenisa da veris cixeebi

samefo saxlis xelSia. 1554 wlis

zafxulze vere Sah-Tamazma aiRo

da atenis cixeSi gamagrebuli lu-

arsab I-is dedis winaaRmdeg daiZ-

ra. tyveobaSi Cavardnilma qalma

Seuracxyofa ver aitana da erevan-

Si Tavi moikla.

vfiqrob, arc moulodneli da

arc saZraxisi unda iyos, rom ci-

xesimagreTa aRwerisas sityvas is-

toriis qartexilebi wamarTmevs

xolme da xSirad adgilsa da sa-

gans scildeba. Tanac, aba, bevri ra

iseTi unda Tqva nagebobaze, rom-

lis kedlebis maqsimaluri simaR-

le aqa-iq 4-5 metrs Tu aRwevs da

yvela koSki dalewili aqvs...

gardatenis siaxloves 4 ekle-

siaa: X-XI saukuneebis `feriscva-

leba~ (igive `mwvane saydari~),

gardatenis `RvTismSobeli~, aseve

gviani Suasaukuneebis `orsaydre-

bi~ da adreuli Suasaukuneebis

`yvelawminda~. gansakuTrebiT mniS-

vnelovani Zegli es ukanasknelia.

vaxuSti batoniSvili mis Taobaze

ase ambobs: `veris dabis dasavliT

ars, danaxvisis mTis Zirs, monas-

teri keTilSuenieri yovladwmidi-

sa~. vaxuStis sityvidan gamomdina-

re XVIII saukunis dasawyisSi ek-

lesia daungreveli yofila.

veres taZari cixis Ziridan

samxreT-dasavleTiT, daaxloebiT

1-1,5 kilometrSi, xevidan da gzi-

dan marjvena mxaresaa.

Cvens winaSea aramarto am xe-

obis, aramed mTeli Sida qarTlis

erT-erTi yvelaze uZvelesi da um-

Svenieresi taZari _ VI saukunis

samnaviani bazilika (10,7X7,5 m)

samxreTis ekvderiTa da mongreu-

li karibWiT. taZari sxva mxriva-

caa dazianebuli: dabzarulia ked-

lebi, aRar arsebobs kamara da

kedlebis zeda wyobis erTi nawi-

li. taZars 3 Sesasvleli hqonia...

Cven CrdiloeTis kariT SevdivarT.

atenis maSindeli gamgebeli daviT

vaniSvili da gardateneli axal-

gazrdebi gviamboben Tu rogor ga-

anTavisufles taZari moSvavebuli

miwisgan:

_ daaxloebiT ornaxevari met-

ris simaRleze hqonda miwas dafa-

ruli saydari, _ gveubneba erTi

gardateneli kaci. _ karis nacv-

lad viwro xvreli Canda da Zlivs

SevZveriT. mTeli sofeli modioda

samuSaod, atenidanac ki amodiod-

nen axalgazrdebi, rom saqmes dro-

ulad movrCeniliyaviT.

igi, vinc taZrebTan saubari

icis, veres `RvTismSobelSi~ mox-

vedrisas umal SegirZnobs da Sei-

sunTqavs adre Suasaukuneebis epo-

qas: sakurTxevlis Rrma afsidi

(Tumca ara mTlad nalisebri),

sarkmlis farTo ambrazurebi, qva-

Ta wyoba da Tlis manera. aRmosav-

leT fasadze ori Rrma da maRali

niSi... taZari XI saukuneSi aRud-

geniaT da odnav gadaukeTebiaT.

swored am droindelia grexil-

lilvebiani qvebi _ zogi kankelis

kedelSi Cadgmuli da zogic ga-

reT, ezoSi dawyobili. Zalian la-

mazia taZris perangi, romelic

ruxi da Rvinisferi qvebiTaa `Se-

kerili~. Rvinisferi qva umetesad

samkaulebisTvis da horizontalu-

ri StrixebisTvisaa gamoyenebuli,

interierSi ki misi saSualebiT

TaRebia gamoyvanili. qviSaqvasTan

erTad, samSeneblo masalad Siri-

micaa gamoyenebuli, romelic taZ-

rebs yovelTvis met simSvidesa da

simtkices aniWebs.

bevrjer miTqvams da axlac ga-

vimeoreb: zogierTi taZari iseTia,

rom sityviT veranairad aRwer,

TiToeuli qva rom calke daaxasi-

aTo, saboloo suraTs mainc ver

Seqmni. mxolod masTan uSualo

kontaqtiT, miaxloebiT da gasaub-

rebiT gauxsni guls, mxolod ase

daakavSireb warsulsa da myofads

erTmaneTTan adamianebs ar SeuZli-

aT ase laparaki, mxolod taZrebi

saubroben ase.

gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi

uZvelesivere

atenis xeoba

mogzauroba samSobloSiSeiZleboda, narkvevis qqvesaTaurad `̀tanas xevic~ gamometana,

radgan mdinares, romelic xeobaSi Camoedineba, swored tana hqqvia,

magram es mTlad gamarTlebuli ar iqqneboda. saqqme isaa, rom isto-

riulad `̀tanas xevi~ da Zvel droSi mezobeli TeZmis xeobis zeda

monakveTsac moicavda, administraciul erTeuls ufro warmoadgen-

da.

wedisis `wminda giorgi~

gardateni. veris `yvelawminda~

gorijvari. `wminda giorgi~ gardateni. veris cixe

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mecnierebi sakmaod didxans

Tvlidnen,rom gadmocema babi-

lonis godolis Sesaxeb mxo-

lod simboluri legenda iyo,

magram me-19 saukunis bolos,

evropelma arqeologebma aRmo-

aCines godolis nangrevebi.

baRdadidan daaxloebiT as ki-

lometrze, mravali saukunis

ganmavlobaSi aRmarTuliyo

borcvebi brtyeli TavebiT da

daqanebuli ferdobebiT. adgi-

lobrivi mcxovrebni maT buneb-

rivi reliefis nawilad

Tvlidnen. borcvebis brtyeli

mwvervalebi mosaxerxebeli

iyo beduinTa karvebis gasaS-

lelad,iq salocavad adiodnen

keTilmorwmune arabebi. verc

erT maTgans ver warmoedgi-

na,rom mis fexqveS legendaru-

li, didebuli qalaqis nangre-

vebi iyo Camarxuli. 1899

wels es adgili moinaxula

germanelma arqeologma ro-

bert koldeveim, romlis saxe-

lic arqeologiis istoriaSi

babilonis aRmomCenelis saxe-

lad Sevida. man wamoiwyo

gaTxrebi „saxnis velze“

(„saxn“ arabulad tafas niS-

navs) da pirveli dRidanve ga-

uRima bedma. TxuTmeti weli

mounda igi gaTxrebidan uZve-

lesi civilizaciis naSTebis

amoRebas. arqeologi sawarmoe-

beli samuSaos masStabebs misi

dawyebisTanave mixvda da es

masStabebi gaTxrebis ramdenime

Tvis periodmac daudastura.

gaTxrebi yoveldRe axal-

axal aRmoCenas sTavazobda

mecniers. es iyo moWiquli

agurisgan gakeTebuli bareli-

efebis namsxvrevebi, spilenZiT

moWedili qalaqis didi WiSka-

ri, didebuli frTiani lome-

bis qandakebebi da sxva arte-

faqtebi, romlebmac daCrdi-

les egvipturi Sedevrebis

brwyinvaleba da daafiqres

mTeli msoflios mecnierebi

imaze, Tu rogor warmoiSva me-

sopotamiaSi aseTi maRalganvi-

Tarebuli civilizacia. dRes

arqeologebi fiqroben, rom

Zveli babiloni Sumerebis ci-

vilizaciis ukanaskneli gamob-

rwyinebaa. Sumerebi aTasobiT

wlis win cxovrobdnen mdina-

reebis tigrossa da evfrats

Soris mdebare teritoriaze.

Sumeruli saiuveliro nakeTo-

bebi dRemde misabaZ magaliTad

rCeba parizeli iuvelirebi-

saTvis, xolo akldamebma, sa-

dac msxverplad Sewiruli

adamianebis aseulobiT ConCxs

waawydnen, arqeologebi lamis

daamunja. Sumerebis Sesaxeb

cota ram aris cnobili, mag-

ram varaudoben, rom warRvnam

swored es xalxi gaanadgura.

yovel SemTxvevSi, Sumeruli

civilizaciis fenis Semdeg ar-

qeologebma naxes Tixis or-

metriani fena, romelic aq

momxdar katastrofaze, sava-

raudod, warRvnaze miuTiTeb-

da. unda vifiqroT, rom saSi-

nel wyaldidobas bibliuri

noes garda, kidev gadaurCebo-

da vinme. Sumerebis gadarCe-

nilma naSTebma daaarses qala-

qi babiloni, romelSic kidec

erTxel aRorZinda da ayvavda

maTi kultura, romelic

ufalma Tu stiqiam gaanadgura.

koldovei waawyda miwisqveSa

nagebobebs. maT SigniT aRmoCn-

da Wa, romelic sami Saxtisgan

Sedgeboda. teqnikur specia-

listebTan konsultaciis Sem-

deg arqeologisTvis cnobili

gaxda, rom samSaxtiani Wa

wylis amosaqaCad gamoiyenebo-

da, mas hqonda lentiani amwe-

vi, romelic wyals ganuwyvet-

liv awodebda. aqedan gamodi-

oda daskvna, rom aRmoCenili

sardafebi warmoadgenda semi-

ramidas maradmwvane baRebis

TaRebs. aq muSobda im drois-

Tvis unikaluri wylis mimwo-

debeli sistema, romelic

Zvirfasi sarwyavi wyliT uz-

runvelyofda gigantur mra-

valterasian baRebs, swored im

baRebs, romlebic herodetem

msoflio saocrebebs miakuTv-

na. Cvenamde mxolod sardafeb-

ma moaRwia, romelTa mixedviT,

samwuxarod Znelia maTi arqi-

teqturis Sesaxeb msjeloba.

legendam Semogvinaxa cnoba,

rom mas Semdeg, rac vaJs tax-

ti dauTmo, semiramida yvela-

ze maRali terasidan gadmoeS-

va da sanam haerSi moqroda,

misi gaSlili xelebi mtredis

frTebad gadaiqca, tani ki

mtredis tanad da jadoqrobis

niWiT dajildoebuli dedofa-

li samudamod gafrinda zeca-

Si. koldeveis kidev erTi ga-

saocari aRmoCena iyo legenda-

ruli godolis narCenebi. ba-

bilonelebi mas „etemenankis“

eZaxdnen, rac niSnavs: `zecisa

da miwis qvakuTxedis taZari“.

herodote gviambobs: `go-

doli camde aziduli da ram-

denime giganturi terasisgan

Sedgeboda. Svidi koSki erTma-

neTze iyo dadgmuli. fundamen-

ti 90 metri siganis iyo

(swored is amoTxara koldeve-

im) da godolic mTlianad ima-

ve simaRlis iyo. pirveli sar-

Tuli 33 metrs aRwevda, meo-

re 18 metrs da danarCeni

oTxi ki 6-6 metrs. sul bo-

lo sarTuli 15 metris simaR-

lis iyo da warmoadgenda mar-

duqis saxelze agebul taZars.

igi dafaruli iyo oqroTi da

mopirkeTebuli cisfrad moWi-

quli aguriT. es taZari mzeze

cisfer-oqrosfrad livliveb-

da da ramdenime kilometris

manZilidan Canda“. Semonaxu-

lia agreTve babilonis mefis

nabofalasaris droindeli

(Cv.w.aR.–mde 626-604 ww.) Ti-

xis firfitebi, romlebic na-

Tels fenen legendaruli go-

dolis istorias. mefe acxa-

debs, rom RmerT marduqis ne-

biT brZaneba gasca, aRedginaT

babilonis godoli. rodis iq-

na godoli pirvelad aSenebu-

li – aravin icis, magram mefe

nabofasalari ambobs, rom mis

mefobamde godoli ramdenjer-

me daangries asureTis mefeeb-

ma sargonma da sanxerobma. ba-

bilonis yoveli momdevno

mmarTveli Tavidan aRadgenda

godols. nabofasalaris mier

warmoebuli aRdgeniTi samuSa-

oebi imdenad Zneli da xangrZ-

livi aRmoCnda, rom mmarTve-

lobis 20 wlis manZilze me-

fem isini ver daasrula da es

misia daekisra mis vaJs nabuqo-

donosors (Cv.w.aR.-mde. 604-

562ww). gavida kidev 40 weli

da babilonis godoli mTeli

Tavisi simSvenieriT warudga

babilonelebs. marduqis taZar-

Si, sadac idga oqros magida

da oqros sawoli, xalxis

rwmunebiT, TviTon RmerTi

aTevda Rames da amitom iq Ses-

vla ubralo mokvdavebs ekrZa-

lebodaT. iq mxolod xalxis

mier arCeuli erTi mzeTunaxa-

vi rCeboda xolme, raTa Rmer-

Ti marduqis alersi rgeboda

wilad.“taZarSi cocxali Rm-

erTis mier Ramis gaTeva saeW-

vod mimaCnia“,–acxadebs hero-

dete. babilonis godolis qve-

da sarTulze mdebareobda

RmerT marduqis meore taZari.

iq idga RmerTis qandakeba, ro-

melTanac xdeboda msxverplSe-

wirva. herodete iuwyeba, rom

qandakeba oqrosi iyo da 24

tonas iwonida. is, visac bedi

gauRimebs da am qandakebas aR-

moaCens, albaT msoflioSi um-

didresi adamiani gaxdeba. go-

dolisken midioda gza, romel-

sac dResaswaulebis dros Se-

udgebodnen xolme qurumebi da

morwmuneni. koldeveim aRmoa-

Cina es saprocesio gza da

aRiara, rom mas vercerTi Ta-

namedrove Sose ver Seedreba.

uZvelesma mSeneblebma gza

kvadratuli filebiT mokirwy-

les, romelTa gverdi 1 metri

iyo, isini dagebuli iyo agu-

ris safarze, romelic jer ki-

dev asfaltiT iyo dafaruli.

filebis napirebi inkrustire-

buli iyo. maT Soris RriWoe-

bi ki asfaltiT iyo amovsebu-

li. TiToeuli filis Sida

mxareze qvismTlelebs amout-

vifravT warwera: “me – nabu-

qodonosorma, babilonis mefem,

es gza davage ufal marduqis-

Tvis“. axla Znelia srulad

Sefasdes babilonSi arsebuli

sainJinro done. momaval Tao-

bebs babilonelebma dautoves

godoli da semiramidas baRebi,

saocrad zusti gamoTvlebis

sistema, zusti warmodgenebi

ciuri mnaTobebis Sesaxeb da

cruwrmena Sav katasTan dakav-

SirebiT. lursmnuli damwer-

lobis firfitebis gaSifrvis

Sedegad, enaTmecnierebma daad-

gines, rom im dros adamianebs

eSinodaT Savi katis. Tu Savi

kata gzas gadaWrida, es ube-

durebis niSani iyo. ubedureba

da uiRbloba yovelTvis Tan

sdevda babilons. nabuqodono-

soris mefobis Semdeg Cv.w.aR.-

mde 538 wels babiloni daipy-

ro sparseTis mefem kirosma,

magram babilonis godolma

masze iseTi STabeWdileba mo-

axdina, rom brZaneba gasca, na-

geboba xeluxleblad Seenar-

CunebinaT da mis saflavze go-

dolis miniaturuli asli da-

edgaT. sparseTis Semdegi mefe

qserqse naklebad sentimenta-

luri aRmoCnda. man godoli

nangrevebad aqcia. es nangreve-

bi ixila indoeTSi salaSqrod

mimavalma aleqsandre makedo-

nelma. gaognebuli Sescqeroda

igi giganturi nagebobis naS-

Tebs da ori TviT SeCerda ba-

bilonSi Tavis laSqarTan er-

Tad. am xnis ganmavlobaSi misi

jariskacebi gulmodgined asu-

fTavebdnen nangrevebs, riTac

pativs miagebdnen Zveli dide-

bis naSTs.

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tomas insi

tomas insi, erT-erTi yvelze

cnobili da holivudis pioneri

dacxriles gazeTebis gavrcele-

bis magnatis rudolf herstis

daCaze iaxtaSi. misi sikvdilis

Sesaxeb pirvelma swored ru-

dolf herstma dabeWda da ga-

nacxada, rom igi gulis SeteviT

gardaicvala. gamoZieba ar Cata-

rebula. sinamdvileSi insi hers-

tma SemTxveviT daxvrita, roca

misi SeSineba undoda. insi cdi-

lobda herstis sayvareli qalis

abigail kinsolvingis gaupatiu-

rebas.

jenet heinori

jenet heinori avtokatast-

rofaSi sastikad daSavda Tavis

meuRlesTan reJisorTan da pro-

diuserTan pol gregorisTan er-

Tad, romelic masze 15 wliT

umcrosi iyo. manqanaSi jenetis

sayvareli qali meri martinic

ijda. jenetma mZime travmebi mi-

iRo da ramdenimejer Cautarda

operacia. morigi qirurgiuli

Carevisas, avtokatastrofidan 2

wlis Semdeg heinori 77 wlis

asakSi gardaicvala.

jeims dini

jeims dini avtoavariiT gar-

daicvala Tavis vercxlisfer

`porSe 500 spaiderSi~. gardac-

valebamde erTi kviriT adre Sem-

TxveviT gacnobilma alek gines-

ma, romelic los-anjelesSi mi-

dioda filmSi pirvelad gadasa-

Rebad, jeims dins uTxra:`ar

iaro am avtomanqaniT, Tu ara

erTi kvirac ar gaivlis, daiRu-

pebi.~ sikvdilamde dini sarek-

lamo rgolSi gadaiRes, rome-

lic miZRvnili iyo avtomoyva-

ruli mozardebisTvis gasafr-

Txileblad, Tavi aeridebinaT

saWesTan gadaWarbebuli siCqa-

risTvis. reklamaSi dini ambobda:

`SeaneleT siCqare, sicocxle,

romelsac Tqven gadaarCenT, Se-

saZloa, Cemi iyos~.

linda darleni

linda darleni mTeli cxov-

reba cecxlis SiSiT itanjebo-

da. erT dRes, roca mas gastri-

tis mwvave Seteva hqonda, Tavis

mdivanTan darCa CikagoSi. taxt-

ze wamowva da saSineli tkivi-

lebisgan Tavis dasaRwevad fil-

mis `varskvlavuri ferflis~

yureba daiwyo. darlens taxtze

CaeZina xelSi anTebuli sigare-

tiT. mexanZreebma igi mZvinvare

cecxlis nakadidan gamoiyvanes,

magram ori dRis Semdeg saavadm-

yofoSi gardaicvala.

bobi driksoli

bobi driksoli, amerikis say-

vareli msxaxiobi, supervarskv-

lavi, romelic 12 wlis ganmav-

lobaSi flobda `oskars~ 31

wlis asakSi zogierTis azriT

hepatitiT, zogierTisa _ infar-

qtiT gardaicvala. misi sxeuli

miyruebul SenobaSi griniC-vi-

lijze or upatrono bavSvTan

erTad ipoves da RatakTa sasaf-

laoze saerTo saflavSi daasaf-

laves. ramdenime Tvis Semdeg

moxda misi amocnoba TiTis ana-

beWdebis saSualebiT. sinamdvi-

leSi driksoli herionma Seiwi-

ra.

semi devisi

semi devis umcrosi gardaic-

vala yelis kiboTi. man uari

Tqva operaciaze, radgan sicocx-

lis bolomde ver sZlia alko-

holuri sasmelebis siyvaruls.

greis keli

greis kelim saWe ver dai-

morCila, misi `roveri~ umisa-

marTod gafrinda, ramdenimejer

haerSi amotrialda da miwaze

ukuRma, borblebiT maRla daeca.

misi gogona stefani, rogorc

ityvian, saswaulebrivad gadarCa

da manqanis im fanjridan gadmoZ-

vra, sadac mZRolis adgili iyo.

amboben, rom saWesTan ara deda,

aramed swored stefani ijda.

greis keli saavadmyofoSi co-

cxali miiyvanes, magram eqimebi

maSinve ambobdnen, rom misi ga-

darCena SeuZlebeli iyo. imave

dRes greiss xelovnuri sunTq-

vis aparati gamourTes.

bing krosbi

bing krosbi saswrafo daxma-

rebis manqanaSi gardaicvala. an-

derZSi miTiTebuli hqonda, rom

Svilebs ar hqondaT ufleba

esargeblaT misi qonebiT, sanam

65 wlis ar gaxdebodnen. Semdeg

Svilma geri krosbim dawera

wigni, sadac aRwerda, ramdenad

sastiki iyo mama.

suzan keboti

suzan keboti Tavisma 22 wl-

is juja vaJma cemiT mokla, ris-

Tvisac man Stangis rkina gamoi-

yena.

brius li

sikvdilamde ramdenime dRiT

adre 32 wlis brus lim goneba

dakarga gadasaReb moedanze. Tum-

ca maSinve mosulma eqimTa jguf-

ma msaxiobs veraviTari paTolo-

gia ver aRmouCines. ramdenime

dRis Semdeg saqmiani molapara-

kebis dros kvlav igive ganmeor-

da. msaxiobi saavadmyofoSi gada-

iyvanes da iqve gardaicvala.

oficialur versiad tvinis daa-

vadeba dasaxelda, magram, varau-

doben, rom li mokles.

piter lofordi

piter lofordi, jon kene-

dis suteniori, 61 wlis asakSi

gardaicvala mravali wlis nar-

komaniisa da alkoholizmisgan.

sikvdilamde ramdenime dRiT ad-

re igi komaSi Cavarda, sikvdi-

lis momentSi kunTebis sruli

spazmi daemarTa da Tvalebidan,

yurebidan da piridan sisxls as-

xamda.

vivien li

vivian li tuberkuloziT da

SizofreniiT iyo daavadebuli.

mas midrekileba hqonda bavSvebis

wamebisken, raSic Svebas naxu-

lobda. vivian li 52 wlis asak-

Si tuberkuloziT gardaicvala.

mirna loi

mirna loi 88 wlis asakSi

saoperacio magidaze gardaicva-

la. gardacvalebis mizezi mkac-

rad gaasaidumloes.

Carz loutoni

Carlz loutoni 63 wlis

asakSi gardaicvala, oficialu-

ri cnobiT kibos daavadebisgan.

sinamdvileSi mas Sidsi hqonda.

bela lugoSi

bela lugoSi (cnobili `dr-

akula~) 73 wlisa gulis Sete-

viT gardaicvala da misi ander-

Zis mixedviT, is drakulas pal-

toTi daasaflaves.

cnobili adamianebis sikvdilis ucnauri garemoebani

dasasruli. dasawyisi

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«ß ïîìíþ ÷óäíîå ìãíîâåíüå,ïåðåäî ìíîé ÿâèëàñü òû...» _ sa-yovelTaod cnobilia, rom es

striqonebi cnobilma rusma po-

etma aleqsandr puSkinma ana

petrovna kerns dauwera. magram

yvelam ar icis, rom `silamazis

genia~ (`ãåíèé ÷èñòîé êðàñîòû~)ana petrovnas 36 wlis asakSi

TavdaviwyebiT Seuyvarda Tavisi

biZaSvili aleqsandr markov-vi-

nogradski.

es ambavi gasaocari maincada-

mainc ar iqneboda, peterburgis

pirveli kadetTa korpusis kade-

ti, anas biZaSvili da rCeuli

maSin 16 wlis rom ar yofili-

yo. aleqsandre Tavis Seyvare-

bulze da Semdeg meuRleze 20

wliT patara gaxldaT. Tumca

amas ar SeuSlia xeli meuRlee-

bisTvis mTeli cxovreba urTi-

erTTanxmobasa da siyvarulSi

gaetarebinaT TviT siRaribis

wlebSic ki, anas gardacvalebam-

de. ana 79 wlisa gardaicvala.

mTeli maTi tkbili Tanacxovre-

bis periodSi aleqsandre uZRv-

nida leqsebs. es leqsebi marTa-

lia, misi sexnia puSkinis nawar-

moebebs sakmaod CamorCeboda,

magram ar SeiZleba aRfrTovane-

ba ar dageufloT im werilebis

wakiTxvisas, romlebsac aleqsan-

dre anas werda.

`SeiZleba vinmes Cveni kavSi-

ri ucnaurad eCveneba, magram rac

undaT, is ifiqron, me madlobas

veubnebi RmerTs, rom Cven erTad

varT! SeuZlebeli iyo sxvanai-

rad bednieri vyofiliya-

viT. sxva SemTxvevaSi xom

ar gveyoleboda saSeCka

(markov-vinogradskisa da

anas vaJi), romelic dRes

Cveni bednierebaa. rac ar

unda moxdes, ar meSinia,

radgan darwmunebuli var,

yvelaferi kargad iqneba,

yvelaferi saukeTesosken

Seicvleba.~

`ra udidesi netare-

baa, mZime Sromis Semdeg

mieyrdno colis fafuk

mkerds (am mkerdis pat-

roni maSin 40 wlis

iyo.), CaiZiro misi aler-

sis sinazesa da kocnis

simxurvaleSi.~

`me adrec vTqvi, rom

mjera Cemi colis da Se-

miZlia darwmunebiT vTqva,

rom mas verasdros veraferi

Secvlis. zogierTs hgonia, rom

gava dro da me Sevcvli mas. es

arasdros moxdeba.~

rusi mxatvris erT cnobil

tiloze gamosaxulia ymawvili

gogona, romelic qorwindeba

xnier mamakacze. im droisTvis es

qorwineba ramdenadme ironiis

Semcvelic ki iyo, magram axla

10-15 wliT ufros mamakacze da-

qorwineba arc gaocebas iwvevs,

arc Soks, arc ironias, Tumca

ymawvili vaJi da asakovani qali,

es ar aris ubralo SemTxveva.

aseT faqtebze amboben, rom es

aris oidiposis sindromi, anda

didi codva.

magram sxva SemTxvevaa, roca

asakiT ufrosi mamakaci axalgaz-

rda qals irTavs colad. asako-

vani qmari axalgazrda cols uq-

mnis stabilurobis SegrZnebas,

simSvides, materialur uzrun-

velyofas, sazogadoebriv sta-

tuss. adre iTvleboda, rom asa-

kovani mamakacisa da axalgazrda

qalis qorwinebis Sedegad goni-

eri, niWieri STamomavloba

ibadeboda. sinamdvileSi,

mamakacs aqvs SesaZleblo-

ba janmrTeli da gonieri

STamomavloba iyolios

Rrma siberemdec. (amis ma-

galiTad Carli Caplini

da konCalovskic gamodge-

bian). Tumca adre miiCneo-

da, rom qali, romelic

klimaqsis periods miaR-

wevs, gonebaCamorCenil da

avadmyof STamomavlobas

badebso. dRes medicina ise

ganviTarda, rom am hipo-

Tezaze laparakic zedme-

tia. 40 welze ufros

qalbatonebs xSirad meti

Sansi aqvT gaaCninon janm-

rTeli bavSvi.

balzaki ambobda, `qali

daberebas 23 wlis asaki-

dan iwyebso~, magram gasuli sa-

ukunis dasawyisSi 23 wlisa

ymawvil gogonad iTvleboda, sa-

ukunis Suaguls axalgazrdad

30 wlis qals miiCnevdnen, 2000

wlidan seqssimbolod, rogorc

`seqsi did qalaqSia~, 40 wels

gadacilebuli qalbatonebi Ca-

iTvalnen.

didi xani ar aris, rac ga-

moqveynda aRmoCena, romelic

niu-jersel mecniersa da mkvle-

vars, doqtor debora fromers

ekuTvnis. misi kvlevis Sedegad

dadginda, rom qalTa 80% seq-

sualurobis piks 35-dan 45

wlamde aRwevs. am asakSi nakle-

bad kompleqsurebi arian, ufro

saintereso da pikanturni sa-

wolSi, aqvT meti gamocdileba,

ukeTesad ician sakuTari eroge-

nuli zonebis Sesaxeb da ufro

iolad da xSirad aRwevn or-

gazms. amitom arcaa gasakviri,

rom am asakis qalebi yvela asa-

kis mamakacebisTvis sasurveli

partniorebi arian.

samwuxarod, miaCniaT, rom ma-

ugli-bavSvebi mxolod tyeSi an

junglebSi cxovroben, arada isi-

ni, SeiZleba, qalaqebSi an sof-

lebSi cxovrobdnen Cvens gver-

diT.

ukraineli gogona-ZaRli, oq-

sana malaia 3 wlisa alkoholik-

ma mSoblebma quCaSi datoves. is

upatrono ZalRebTan izrdeboda

8 wlis ganmavlobaSi. ikvebeboda

gadayrili saWmelis narCenebiT.

gogonas daaviwyda is sityvebi,

rac 3 wlis asakamde icoda da

gaxda ZaRlebis xrovis sruluf-

lebiani wevri. roca is naxes

1991 weli iyo. bavSvma saerTod

ar icoda laparaki, sityvebis ma-

givrad yefda da oTx fexze da-

dioda. axla oqsana 20 wlisaa.

mas aswavles laparaki, magram

fsiqiuri ganviTarebiT kvlav da-

bal doneze dgas. yvelaze xSirad

Zroxebs dahyveba, romlebsac im

internatis siaxloves aZoveben,

sadac axla oqsana cxovrobs. mar-

Talia, oqsanam laparaki ase Tu

ise iswavla, magram mis metyvele-

baSi ar igrZnoba aranairi mimika,

arc emocia.

1996 wels 4 wlis moskove-

li ivan miSukovi saxlidan gaipa-

ra. isic ZaRlebis xrovaSi aRmoC-

nda da oTxfexebma miiRes, ro-

gorc beladi da meTauri. biWuna

quCaSi agrovebda saWmels, mas

dacvad ramdenime ZaRli yovelT-

vis axlda. saWmelis ganawilebas

beladi TviTon awarmoebda. biWis

daWera policiam karga xans ver

moaxerxa imis gamo, rom mas erT-

guli da Seupovari dacva hyavda.

ivanuSka quCaSi 2 weliwadi

cxovrobda. Cveulebriv cxovre-

bas rom daubrunda, mas enis Ses-

wavla arc ki dasWirvebia, radgan

roca gaiqca, laparaki icoda.

1996 wels CineTis gareuban-

Si patara biWi daiWires, romel-

sac tani mTlianad bewviT hqonda

dafaruli. monadireebma igi bam-

bukis daTvebis, pandebis garemoc-

vaSi SeamCnies. CineTSi es ukve me-

same SemTxvevaa, rac bavSvebi pan-

debTan izrdebian. pirvelad aseTi

SemTxveva 1892 wels moxda, meo-

re 1923 wels. pandebTan gazrdi-

li bavSvebi oTx fexze dadian.

or fexze roca dgebodnen, Tavs

ver imagrebdnen. piris dabanis

dros ise iqceodnen, rogorc ka-

tebi, maTi sakvebi iyo bambukis

foTlebi da ylortebi. bunebriv

moTxovnilebebs cxovelebiviT ik-

mayofilebdnen, pandebiviT Sar-

davdnen da a.S. yvirodnen, roca

raimeTi ukmayofiloni iyvnen.

Cinelma biologma da mkvle-

varma xou men lum Seiswavla bi-

Wuna-panda da acxadebs, rom is,

savaraudod, mSoblebma datoves

tyeSi, radgan mas dabadebidanve

tani bewviT hqonda dafaruli. bi-

Wuna pandebma ipoves da TavianTi

`ojaxis~ wevrad miiRes. axali

tipis maugli 36 wlis monadirem

xuan vaim daiWira. dRevandlamde

igi xuan vais saxlSi cxovrobs

mis meuRlesTan da 5 wlis gogo-

nasTan erTad.

mecnierebi Tvlian, rom bavS-

vi, rodesac tyeSi datoves, 1-1,5

wlis SeiZleba yofiliyo. patara

mauglis xelebsa da fexebze gr-

Zeli frCxilebi hqonda. dasawyis-

Si yvelas kbenda da kawravda. Ta-

vidan gauWirda adamianebTan er-

Tad cxovreba, magram Semdeg nel-

nela iswavla ramdenime sityva da

Seegua axal cxovrebas. Tumca

dRemde, roca raime awuxebs, ki

ar tiris, aramed wkmutunebs,

rogorc patara ZaRli.

Seusabamo qorwinebebi

Cveni drois maugli-bavSvebi 76 wlis poloneli mefu-

tkre diliT gondakarguli

waiqca. eqimebma misi uecari

sikvdili daafiqsires. rode-

sac micvalebuli iozef guzi

kuboSi Caawvines, mwuxare qv-

rivma moiTxova moxseniT gul-

sakidi Cems qmars, samaxsov-

rod rom damrCeso.

da moxda saswa-

uli.

is, rac datrialda polo-

neTSi, amtkicebs, rom mkvdre-

TiT aRdgoma fantastikis sfe-

ros ar ganekuTvneba. eqimebi

amtkiceben, rom iozefs guli

gauCerda, ar sunTqavda, sxeu-

li gaucivda, e.i. mokvda. me-

saflave, yofili meSaxte da-

rius visluxato yveba: gasas-

veneblad rom mivediT, iozefi

ukve kuboSi ramdenime saaTis

win CaesvenebinaT. sanam kubos

Tavs daaxuravdnen, naTesavebma

moisurves ramdenime Zvirfasi

nivTi saxsovrad amoeRoT ku-

bodan. iozefis siZem moindoma

simamris saaTi hqonoda, qvriv-

ma gulsakidis moxsna gadawy-

vita. me mivedi, yelze xeli

movkide, rom gulsakidi Se-

mexsna da gavSeSdi, magram

uceb gonze movedi da daviyvi-

re, guli ucems-meTqi. davem-

xe iozefs da gulis cemac Se-

vigrZe-

ni da sun-

Tqvac. es iyo

saswauli.

maSinve movida

saswrafo daxmareba. ,,ki-

dev kargi, rom kubos Tavi ar

daaxures, Torem es iqneboda

udidesi tragedia, madloba

RmerTs~, - amboben saswrafo

daxmarebis TanamSromlebi.

iozef guzi reanimaciaSi daaw-

vines, ramdenime kviris Semdeg

ki sakuTar saxlSi dabrunda

Tavis futkrebTan.

,,mesaflavem me sicocxle

maCuqa. misi didi madlieri

var. rogorc ki fexze dgomas

SevZleb, mas kasriT Tafls va-

Cuqeb~, - ambobs iozefi.

moamzada

ana vadaWkoriam

gardacvlili 76 wlis moxuci kubodan wamodga

ana kerni

aleqsandr

puSkini

oqsana

malaia

ivan

miSukovi

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iinntteerrvviiuu nnaaTTeellmmxxiillvveell-

TTaann,, rroommlliiss SSeessaaxxeebbaacc mmxxoo-

lloodd iiss SSeeggvviiZZlliiaa vvTTqqvvaaTT,,

rroomm ssmmaaiiddaa hhqqvviiaa..

__ wwaarrmmooSSoobbiiTT qqaarrTTvveellii

aarr ggaaxxllaavvaarrTT.. aaqqaauurrmmaa ccoollmmaa-

qqmmaarrmmaa mmiiSSvviillaa.. rriiggiiddaann CCaammoo-

mmiiyyvvaanneess.. ddeeddaaCCeemmii mmiivvlliinneebbiiTT

iiyyoo iiqq.. ssaammii wwlliiss vvyyooffiillvvaarr,,

rrooddeessaacc ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss mmiiwwaazzee

ddaavvaaddggii ffeexxii.. rrooccaa wwaammoovviizzaarr-

ddee,, CCeemmmmaa aaqqaauurrmmaa mmSSoobblleebbmmaa

ggaammiimmxxiilleess ssiimmaarrTTllee,, ZZaalliiaann

ddiidd ppaattiivvss vvcceemm mmaaTT aammiiss ggaa-

mmoo..

miuxedavad imisa, rom bal-

tiispireTidan var, Crdiloe-

li adamianisTvis damaxasiaTe-

beli garegnoba ar maqvs. ra-

Rac aziuric mirevia, ase meub-

nebian sxvebic. SesaZloa, Cemma

aqaurma dedam yvelaferi ico-

da Cemi warmomavlobis Sesa-

xeb, magram arasodes araferi

uTqvams.

__ ssmmaaiiddaa,, ssaannaamm xxiillvveebbiiss

SSeessaaxxeebb vviissaauubbrreebbddeeTT,, rrooggoorrcc

ggaavviiggee,, ZZaalliiaann ggiiyyvvaarrTT bbuunneebbaa..

aarrcc eess aarr aarriiss SSeemmTTxxvveevviiTT......

_ SemTxveviT, albaT, ara-

feri xdeba. buneba marTlac

Zalian miyvars. aseve bavSvobi-

dan miyvarda cxovelebi. vici,

amaSi gansakuTrebuls vera-

fers dainaxavT, magram ucnau-

ri is gaxlavT, rom TiTqos

cxovelebs Cemi ena esmodaT.

kargi profesionali momTvini-

erebeliviT or wuTSi SemeZ-

lo dameSoSminebina gaavebuli

ZaRli, amis araerTi SemTxveva

mqonia. gavixseneb kidev erT

ambavs: kojorSi visvenebdiT.

maSin 32-33 wlisa viqnebodi.

ezos gadaRma modis erTi ad-

gilobrivi mcxovrebi mamakaci

da mouZRveba cxens. mezobeli

Semoxvda, Sedga da gauba sau-

bari. Zalian lamazi cxeni iyo.

gamovedi ezodan, mivedi, mive-

fere, davuwye laparaki. amaso-

baSi misi patroni da mezobe-

li gamoeSvidobnen erTmaneTs,

moubrunda is cxens da moqaCa

gza gavagrZeloTo, magram uc-

nauri ram moxda. cxeni dadga,

adgilidan ar iZvroda, Tan me

miyurebda. isev mivefere, adgi-

lidan ar iZvris, miyurebs.

`monusxe?~ _ mekiTxeba patro-

ni. isev mieZala wasasvlelad.

cxeni Cemsken gamoiwia, isev

TvalebSi miyurebda. mivxvdi,

rom raRac unda memoqmeda,

Torem is kaci me damiwyebda

Cxubs. `wadi~, _ vubrZane,

`gahyevi patrons~. cxenma Tavi

CaRuna, mitrialda patronis-

ken da nel-nela gahyva.

__ xxiillvveebbiiss uunnaarriiss mmqqoonnee

aaddaammiiaannss aallbbaaTT,, bbuunneebbiiss ddaa

ccxxoovveelleebbiissaacc uunnddaa eessmmooddeess..

aaxxllaa mmooggvviiyyeevviiTT,, rrooddiiss ggaaaacc-

nnoobbiieerreeTT ppiirrvveellaadd,, rroomm zzeemmgg-

rrZZnnoobbeelloobbaa ggaaxxaassiiaaTTeebbTT ddaa

xxiillvveebbiicc ggaaqqvvTT??

_ Tavidan sizmrebiT da-

iwyo yvelaferi. axlobel

ojaxSi viyavi stumrad. axali

wlis dReebi iyo, viqeifeT da

davrCi kidec meore dRemde.

maspinZlebi axalgazrda col-

qmari iyvnen, ori wlis bavSvi

hyavdaT. imaTi naTesavi stum-

robda kidev im dRes. me da

imas calke oTaxSi gveZina.

daRlili viyavi, Rrmad CameZi-

na, magram vnaxe Zalian mkafio

sizmari: viTom baliSidan Ta-

vi wamovwie, Sevyureb wina ke-

dels, saidanac gamodis axal-

gazrda qalis figura. nel-ne-

la miaxlovdeba. nakvTebic ga-

varCie, Zalian lamazi saxe

hqonda, didi lurji Tvalebi.

gamaoca misma silamazem, (da

ara gamoCenam, sizmarSi ar

SemSlia). mere uecrad xelebi

gamoiwvdina Cemsken, TandaTan

izrdeba es xelebi, izrdeba

misi Tavic da bolos es lama-

zi Cveneba saSinel koSmarad

iqca. modis misi uzarmazari

torebi Cemi saxisken, SiSisgan

guli amiCqarda, cotac da uk-

ve mexeba, ucbad xmamaRla Sev-

kivle: `uSveleT! bavSvi ixr-

Coba!~ da gamomeRviZa. ise mi-

kivlia, yvela gavaRviZe, da-

zafrulebi wamovardnen da

gvesmis bavSvis xrotini. Tur-

me pataras gverdze gadabrune-

buls ise CasZinebia, saxe ba-

liSze edo da ixrCoboda. eca

dedamisi, Semoabruna, bavSvma

amoisunTqa da mSvidi fSvinva

amouSva.

21-22 wlis win, roca jer

kidev Zalian areuli ar iyo

qveyanaSi situacia, sizmarSi

vxedav: ulamazo, saxeze ier-

oglifebmoxatuli xalxiTaa

savse quCebi, dablebi iyvnen,

jujebs hgavdnen. `yvelgan Se-

aRwies~, _ meubneba viRacis

xma, yvelgan batonoben. mas

mere sul male samoqalaqo

omi daiwyo, rasac mohyva yve-

la sxva ubedureba. im saxemo-

xatuli uSno xalxis saxiT me

vnaxe, rom qveyanaSi cudi

energia movida.

gaiara orma weliwadma da

xilvebi cxadSic damewyo. vT-

qvaT vuyureb raimes an vinmes,

vakvirdebi da ucbad Tvalwin

sul sxva raRac warmomidgeba

xolme.

__ ssaaxxeellddoobbrr,, rrooggoorr?? ssiivv-

rrccee iiccvvlleebbaa TTuu ccaallkkeeuullii

ffiigguurreebbii??

_ erT magaliTs mogiyvanT:

megobar qalTan. viyavi stum-

rad, rZali hyavda orsulad.

vzivarT, vsaubrobT. Cemdaune-

burad Tvali gamiSterda, vxe-

dav patara biWma gairbina

oTaxSi da gaqra. jer SemeSin-

da, es ra davinaxe-meTqi da me-

re ucbad vTqvi: amaT biWi eyo-

lebaT. (rZali maSin mesame

TveSi iyo), marTlac cxra

Tvis Tavze biWi gaCnda.

__ rrCCeevveebbiissTTvviiss mmoouummaarrTTaavvTT

TTqqvveennTTvviiss??

_ diax. erT nacnobTan vi-

yavi ojaxSi. damaxvedra amba-

vi. meore bina rom mqonda,

gavyideo. aRebul fuls saqme-

Si upirebda dabandebas. Cemi

axali biznes-partniori unda

gagacnoo, meubneba. marTlac

male movida misi stumari da

ucbad vxedav: oTaxSi Semo-

dis qali, romelsac aqvs

uzarmazari piri da ar aqvs...

tuCebi. guli kinaRam wamivi-

da SiSisgan. Tvalebi davxuWe,

gavaxile isev da vxedav araf-

riT gamorCeuli garegnobis

qals. amovisunTqe koSmari

rom gaqra, magram ar momewo-

na es Cveneba, cudad meniSna.

stumari male wavida da nac-

nobs movaxsene Cemi xilvis

Sesaxeb. Tan davamate, xom

ici, amas SemTxveviT ar davi-

naxavdi da am adamians nu en-

dobi, Tavi Seikave magasTan

TanamSromlobisgan-meTqi. Se-

ni ki mjera, magram iqneb Se-

ni Cveneba sul sxva rames mi-

aniSnebs, an avadaa, an raRac

amdagvari, Torem ise sruli-

ad sando adamiani Canso. mainc

nu endobi, dro gaiyvane, Tavi

Seikave, gedos jer eg fuli,

ar yviris-meTqi. ar damijera,

ando fuli im `biznes-le-

dis~. ise yvelaferi kargad

agvixdes me da Tqven, rogorc

imas Cemi naTqvami auxda, Tan

sul male. is qali fulianad

daikarga.

__ TTqqvveenn aaRRnniiSSnneeTT,, rroomm 9900-

iiaann wwlleebbSSii ggqqoonnddaaTT xxiillvvaa,,

rraammaacc qqvveeyyaannaaSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree mmoovv-

lleenneebbzzee mmiiggaanniiSSnnaaTT.. aammggvvaarrii mmii-

nniiSSnneebbeebbii aamm bboolloo wwlleebbSSii aarr

ggqqoonniiaaTT??

_ vardebis revoluciis

winadReebSi gamomesaxa xilva:

cis kabadonze (saRamo Jams)

gaCnda kacis figura, saxe ga-

muruli hqonda, xelebs mari-

onetiviT iqnevda da raRacas

gaiZaxoda. ukan raRac cimcima

sinaTleebi mohyvebodnen. meo-

re saRamos televizors vuyu-

rebdi da vxedav manqanebis did

mwkrivs, anTebuli farebiT,

win mixeil saakaSvili mo-

uZRodaT manqaniT. albaT, gax-

sovT walenjixidan dawyebuli

svla. gamuruli saxe xilvaSi

aragulwrfeli, muxTali su-

lis mimaniSnebelia, marione-

tiviT moqanave xelebi imaze

mianiSnebda, rom sul marione-

tiviT iqneboda, sxvisi samar-

Tavi da aris kidec ase. magram

radgan misi figura didi mas-

StabiT gamoCnda cis fonze,

amaze mianiSnebs, rom Zala mi-

eca da mas mere daxtunaobs

kidec ager ukve mecxre weli.

__ aamm bboolloo ddrrooss TTuu ggqqoo-

nniiaaTT xxiillvvaa qqvveeyyaannaaSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree

mmoovvlleenneebbTTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT??

_ mqonda, cota ucnauri,

rusTavelis prospeqtze viya-

vi, rusTavelis Teatris pir-

dapir quCaze mivdiodi, ucbad

Tavbru damexva. SevCerdi, Can-

da davde da Cemdauneburad Te-

atrs davuwye yureba. uecrad

vxedav, Teatri gamqrala da

mis adgilze dgas uzarmazari,

Senobis toli farSevangi

dgas da nel-nela Slis Tavis

aseve Zalian did kuds, gver-

diT patara farSevangebi dga-

nan da ganabulebi, TiTqos

elian ras izams es giganti,

wevs kuds nel-nela da ucbad

xilva gaqra, yvelaferi Tavis

adgilze dabrunda. davavle

xeli CanTas da iqaurobas gav-

Sordi. meore dRes televizi-

ac da presac biZina ivaniSvi-

lis politikur asparezze ga-

mosvlis Sesaxeb alaparakda.

__ aannuu,, TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, xxiill-

vvaa aammaazzee mmiiaanniiSSnneebbddaa??

_ diax. ivaniSvili meore

dResve gamoCnda. axsna ornai-

rad SeiZleba. farSevangis

xilviT da yavis naleqze

mkiTxaobis dros did warma-

tebas niSnavs, sizmarSi ara-

ordinaluri, didi energiis

adamianis gamoCenas. amisi maga-

liTebi istoriaSic mravla-

daa. (magaliTad: netari mat-

ronas dedam mis dabadebamde

TvalebdaxuWuli didi farSe-

vangis magvari frinveli naxa

sizmarSi. marTlac matrona

dabadebidan brma iyo), anu es

adamiani iseT raRacas moimoq-

medebs samudamod darCeba qvey-

nis istoriaSi.

__ ddiiaaggnnoozzii TTuu ddaaggiissvvaammTT

aaddaammiiaanniissTTvviiss??

_ ki, asi gramis Semdeg (i-

cinis). ratomRac cotas rom

davlev, adamianis auris dazi-

anebul adgilebs kargad vxe-

dav. es sruliad SemTxveviT

aRmovaCine. TanamSromlebTan

erTad davlie, damewyo xilva

da oTxs utyuari diagnozi

davusvi. Tumca mimaCnia, rom

es Zalian safrTxilo sa-

kiTxia da mTlianad Cems Tav-

ze ver viReb, meSinia.

__ xxaallxxss iiRReebbTT??

_ Zalian iSviaTad, raRac

ar maZlevs uflebas bolomde

am saqmes mivdio. albaT, imi-

tom, rom xilvebi xSirad Ta-

visiT momdis da ara SekveTiT.

arc me veZalebi. mTavaria, xan-

daxan mainc vaxerxeb vinmes

davexmaro da vanugeSo.

Tamuna qadagiZe

`90-iani wlebis dasawyisSi sizmarSi vnaxe, rom quCebi saxeze

ieroglifebmoxatuli uSno xalxiT iyo savse da sul male qveyanaSi areuloba daiwyo~

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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ruseTi sagareo ur-

TierTobebis aRdge-

nas sTavazobs saqar-

Tvelos - calmxri-

vad gauqmebuli savizo reJimis

sapasuxod. vot!!!es imas niS-

navs, rom miSa ruseTis kacia

da gadmougdes bawari... biZina

ar awyobT... amasTan, yvelaferi

gaiasnebuli aqvT... biZamisic

imitom Cagvinerges aq...uaxlo-

es momavalSi Cvens aqtiur mi-

Sistebs, romelic ruseTumeo-

bas gvabralebdnen, „kalinkaze“

mocekvaveebs vixilavT!

arsebobs Zveli sibr-

Zne: `araa adamiani,

araa problema”. gir-

gvlianis SemTxvevi-

dan xelisuflebam iswavla,

rom Tu araa informacia, araa

problemac. ar aqvs mniSvnelo-

ba, Tu ra xdeba, moxda an mox-

deba sinamdvileSi, mTavaria,

ra daerqmeva am movlenebs, ro-

gor SeifuTeba, ra Sinaarsi da

konteqsti Caideba

uvizo reJimi oku-

pant ruseTTan da sa-

vizo reJimi meobar

amerikasTan... CemTvis

aqamdec yvelaferi naTeli iyo,

magram ase aSkarad Tu imoqme-

debdnen, ar megona, Tumca ra-

Ra unda gagikvirdes, Temur

alasanias rom sagareo saqmeTa

saministroSi Caginergaven... :(

dRes viyavi qviSxeT-

Si!!!! sacodavi, nawa-

mebi, mokluli 45

wlis axalgazrdis

samZimarze. msgavsi saSineleba

ar minaxavs... mTelma qveyanam

unda naxos amaTi simxece, am

ubeduri adamianis daSinebu-

li ijaxi. gadacmuli poli-

cielebis mWidro kordoni.

gamxecebulebi Sig aravis uS-

veben. sam qals win ver gadag-

veRobnen. aseTi gamwarebuli

didi xania ar vyofilvar! ne-

ta, buta robaqiZis dedas es

ar enaxa da da gamZafreboda

es tkivili. es sawyali kaci

isea nacemi, rom saxe ar

uCans, erTi Savi masaa. an ro-

gor uZlebs dedamisi amis yu-

rebas!!!! gaiziareT yvelam! sa-

xalxo damcveli saswrafod

unda gaCndes iq Tavisi eqs-

pertiT. Tumca eqspertic ki

araa saWiro! ase rom yelye-

laobda da yvelas talaxSi

gvepatiJeboda, wabrZandes

prezidenti, yvela misi Zalo-

vani ministri da naxon maTi

mona, dazombebuli, saxewaS-

lili, ugvano qveSevrdomebi

ras sCadian! gamofxizldiT

xalxo! eseni yvelas karze

aayudeben cqara sikvdilis

cels!!! wadiT qviSxeTSi da

semokariT zarebs! iRupeba sa-

qarTvelo! nu darCeba didi

Wabuas sityvebi oblad SerCe-

nili furcels!daicaviT sa-

qarTvelo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sanam jer

kidev SeiZleba Svela!!

sabWoTa kavSiria,

xalxo.. . . . . . . .terori

terorze... adamianTa

unikaluri daCmore-

ba........rogor ver xvdebian, rom

SiSs da siCmores Tavisi sazR-

veri aqvs da mova momenti, ro-

ca es yofili “”daCmorebu-

li”” masa walekavs damCmore-

bels.......TiTqos sabWoTa menta-

litets ebrZvian...... riT/?????

Zeglebis moxsniT??? mesame

sarTulidan adamianis gadmog-

deba ra evropuli mentalite-

tia??????? am yvelaferze re-

aqciis arqona evropuli menta-

litetia??????? am yvelafer-

ze saubrobs da gvaswavlis kgb

–s skolebSi gazrdili boz-

mondi da zurab wereTelis me-

gobrebi?????

samive ”damoukide-

bel” televizias er-

Tsa da imave teqs-

tebs rom ugzavnian,

es karga xania vici(T), magram

vkvdebi, ise mainteresebs, kon-

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SeTanxmebiT piri srulad gaTavi-

sufldes sisxlis samarTlebrivi

pasuxismgeblobisagan da ra SemTx-

vevaSi?

_ diax. mas iTvaliswinebs sis-

xlis samarTlebrivi kanonmdeblo-

ba.

gansakuTrebul SemTxvevebSi,

rodesac braldebulis mier saga-

moZiebo organoebTan TanamSromlo-

bis Sedegad gamovlinda Tanamdebo-

bis piris (pirebis) vinaoba da mi-

si uSualo xelSewyobiT moxerxda

danaSaulis gaxsnisTvis arsebiTi

pirobebis Seqmna, sasamarTlo uf-

lebamosilia srulad gaaTavisuf-

los braldebuli sisxlis samarT-

lebrivi pasuxismgeblobisagan.

aqve getyviT, rom aseT SemTx-

vevaSi piri mainc nasamarTlevad

iTvleba.

damatebiT mogaxsenebT, rom

braldebulis sasjelisagan sru-

lad gaTavisufleba dauSvebelia

saqarTvelos sisxlis samarTlis

kodeqsis 144-1-e (wameba), 144-2

(wamebis muqara) da 144-3-e (damam-

cirebeli an araadamianuri mopyro-

ba) muxlebiT gaTvaliswinebul da-

naSaulTa saqmeebze.

* * *

_ SezRuduli Seracxadoba

aTavisuflebs Tu ara pirs sisx-

lis samarTlebrivi pasuxismgeblo-

bisagan?

_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis

35-e muxlis I nawilis mixedviT,

sisxlis samarTlebrivi pasuxism-

geblobisagan ar Tavisufldeba

srulwlovani, romelic danaSau-

lis Cadenis dros imyofeboda

SezRuduli Seracxadobis mdgoma-

reobaSi, e.i. fsiqikuri daavadebis

gamo ar SeeZlo srulad gaecnobi-

erebina Tavisi qmedebis faqtobrivi

xasiaTi an marTlwinaaRmdegoba an-

da exelmZRvanela misTvis.

amave muxlis II nawilis mixed-

viT, SezRudul Seracxadobas sasa-

marTlo iTvaliswinebs sasjelis

daniSvnis dros.

amave muxlis III nawilis mixed-

viT, sisxlissamarTlebrivi pasu-

xismgeblobisagan SeiZleba gaTavi-

sufldes arasrulwlovani, rome-

lic danaSaulis Cadenis dros im-

yofeboda SezRuduli Seracxado-

bis mdgomareobaSi.

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_ rogoria Tavisuflebis aRk-

veTis maqsimaluri vada?

_ vadiani Tavisuflebis aRkve-

Ta iniSneba eqvsi Tvidan oc wlam-

de vadiT.

vadiani Tavisuflebis aRkveTis

maqsimaluri vada danaSaulTa er-

TobliobiT sasjelTa Sejamebisas

ar unda aRematebodes 30 wels,

xolo ganaCenTa erTobliobiT sas-

jelTa Sejamebisas _ 40 wels.

* * *

_ SeiZleba Tu ara ukve msjav-

rdebulTan saproceso SeTanxmebis

gaformeba?

_ Tqven, albaT, gulisxmobT

Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT msjavrde-

bulis mimarT saproceso garigebis

SesaZlo faqtors.

diax, maseTsac iTvaliswinebs

kanonmdebloba.

sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis

73-e muxlis I nawilis mixedviT,

gansakuTrebul SemTxvevaSi, ro-

melsac Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT

msjavrdebulis sagamoZiebo orga-

noebTan TanamSromlobis Sedegad

irkveva Tanamdebobis piris an-da

gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulis

Camdeni piris vinaoba da misi uSu-

alo xelSewyobiT iqmneba am dana-

Saulis gaxsnisTvis arsebiTi piro-

bebi, saqarTvelos mTavar proku-

rors ufleba aqvs, sasamarTlos

mimarTos SuamdgomlobiT msjavr-

debulis sasjelis gadaxedvis Ta-

obaze.

amave muxlis II nawilis mixed-

viT, Suamdgomlobis dakmayofile-

bis SemTxvevaSi sasamarTlo iRebs

Sesabamis gadawyvetilebas _ msjav-

rdebulis sasjelis vadis Semcire-

bis an sasjelis saxis Secvlis an

msjavrdebulis sasjelisagan sru-

lad gaTavisuflebis Taobaze.

amave muxlis III nawilis mixed-

viT, msjavrdebulis sasjelisagan

srulad gaTavisufleba dauSvebe-

lia am kodeqsis 144-1-e (wameba),

144-2-e (wamebis muqara) da 144-3-e

(damamcirebeli an araadamianuri

mopyroba) muxlebiT gaTvaliswine-

bul danaSaulTa saqmeebze.

* * *

_ sasjelis moxdasTan dakavSi-

rebiT fexmZime qalebs aqvT Tu ara

raime SeRavaTi?

_ aqvT.

_ ss kodeqsis 75-e muxlis I

nawilis mixedviT, sasamarTlos Se-

uZlia gadauvados sasjelis moxda

orsul qals, mSobiarobis Semdeg 1

wlamde.

amave muxlis II nawilis mixed-

viT, Tu msjavrdebuli uars ityvis

Svilze an Tavs aaridebs Svilis

aRzrdas mas Semdeg, rac

igi gaafrTxila probaciis

biurom, sasamarTlos SeuZ-

lia, am organos wardgine-

biT gaauqmos sasjelis

moxdis gadavadeba da msjav-

rdebuli sasjelis mosax-

delad gagzavnos ganaCeniT

daniSnul adgilas.

amave muxlis III nawi-

lis mixedviT, rodesac

Svili 1 wlis asaks miaR-

wevs, sasamarTlo gaTavi-

suflebul msjavrdebuls

sasjelis mouxdeli nawi-

lis moxdisagan an sasje-

lis mouxdel nawils Se-

ucvlis ufro msubuqi saxis sasje-

liT anda miiRebs gadawyvetilebas

msjavrdebulis sasjelis mouxde-

li nawilis mosaxdelad Sesabamis

dawesebulebaSi dabrunebis Sesaxeb.

amave muxlis IV nawilis mixed-

viT, Tu msjavrdebuli sasjelis

moxdis gadavadebis periodSi axal

danaSauls Caidens, sasamarTlo mas

dauniSnavs sasjels ganaCenTa er-

TobliobiT.

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irakli 51 wlis

iubiles, Tqven sa-

qarTvelos legiti-

muri prezidentis

baton zviad gamsa-

xurdias xelisuf-

lebis uangaro pat-

rioti da gmiri ra-

indi xarT. male gve-

naxos saqarTvelos

saTaveSi erovnuli

xelisufleba da

TqvenTan erTad, Cve-

no irakli, yvela

politpatimari, uka-

nonod dapatimrebuli Tavisufali.

Znelia iyo qarTveli vaJkaci da raindi, miTu-

metes dRes, yvela Rirseuli mamuliSvilis xvedri

iyo da aris tyvia, sawamlavi, devna, sapyrobile,

wameba da Tqvenc amis msxverpli xarT! Tqven dau-

pirispirdiT saqarTveloSi gamefebul SevardnaZis

xuntis usamarTlobasa da mis samarTalmemkvidre

saakianis reJims.

dideba Tqvens vaJkacobas!

saqarTvelos legitimuri prezidentis baton

zviad gamsaxurdias kavkasiis erovnul-ganmaTavi-

suflebeli moZraobis mebrZolni sazRvargareTidan

Tqvens gverdiT varT.

salome mwiTuri, luka emxvari, niko sakaruli, marTa savaneli,

dito Sermadini, giorgi mWedluri.sul _ 3031 mebrZolni sazRvargareTidan.

avstralia, avstria, SvedeTi, arabeTi, egvipte,

safrangeTi, amerika, inglisi, irani, latvia, ruse-

Ti, ukraina, belorusia.

saqarTvelodan 1002 konspiraciulad mcxovre-

bi mebrZoli.

RmerTi ars CvenTan!

politpatimar irakli dokvaZes

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astrologiuri

prognozi

verZi _ am kvirSi profesi-

onaluri winsvla geliT. ko-

nkretulad es SeiZleba iyos

axali samuSao adgili an gasamrje-

los momateba.

kuro _ mimdinare periodSi

moimatebs Tqveni momxibvle-

loba da Sarmi, es ki sawina-

aRmdego sqesi adamianebs Tqvendami

simpaTiiT ganawyobs.

tyupebi _ Tu Tqven gaTa-

visufldebiT gaorebisgan da

amasTan koncentraciasac mo-

axerxebT, SesaZloa seriozul warma-

tebebs miaRwioT.

kirCxibi _ kviris pirvel

naxevarSi mosalodnelia ga-

rkveuli problemebi gagi-

CndeT da es, ZiriTadad, dakavSire-

buli iqneba Tqvens emociur mdgoma-

reobasTan.

lomi _ moerideT marto

moqmedebas, TviT ideebsac ma-

rto nu dagegmavT. nebismier

saqmian urTierTobaSi uSualoba da

saqmisadmi profesiuli midgoma gamo-

avlineT.

qalwuli _ am periodSi

miiRebT metad saWiro info-

rmacias, romelic Tqvens ka-

rieras sasikeTod waadgeba, Tumca es

informacia praqtikulad unda gamo-

iyenoT.

saswori _ am kviraSi nu

gamoiCenT ambicurobas da sa-

kuTar Tavze nurc zedmet pa-

suxismgeblobas aiRebT.

morieli _ nebismier umni-

Svnelo wvrilmans seriozu-

lad miudeqiT, raTa uyura-

dRebobis gamo sabediswero Secdo-

mebi ar dauSvaT.

mSvildosani _ SesaZle-

belia, saqmiani urTierTobebi

droebiT damuxruWdes da

iZulebiT cvlilebebis gakeTebac mo-

giwioT. nu aboboqrdebiT da partni-

orebs nu daupirispirdebiT.

Txis rrqa _ iyaviT aqti-

uri, originaluri da nebi-

smier urTierTobebSi gu-

lwrfeloba gamoiCineT, radgan wina-

aRmdeg SemTxvevaSi Tqvens garSemo-

myofebs gauCndebaT survili TqvenTan

urTierToba gawyviton.

merwyuli _ am kviraSi

Tqveni yuradReba mTlianad

ojaxur problemebze gada-

erTveba. es ki samsaxurebriv saqmeebs

droebiT ukan gadaswevs.

Tevzebi _ mimdinare kvi-

raSi dasajdomad namdvilad

ver moicliT da mTel Tqvens

energias axal da amasTan, saintereso

ideebis ganxorcielebaze daxarjavT.

mmeeccnniieerreebbmmaa SSeeqqmmnneess qqaalliiss ssaaxxee __

rrooggoorrii iiyyoo iiss 22550000 wwlliiss wwiinnaaTT??mecnierebma Seqmnes gamosaxuleba qalebisa, romlebic orna-

xevari saukunis win cxovrobdnen. gamosaxuleba 1993 wels al-

tais mTebSi aRmoCenili mumiis mixedviT Seiqmna. moskovis ge-

rasimovis saxelobis laboratoriaSi mumiis Zvlebisgan aRad-

gines qalis saxe.

altais religiuri macxovreblebi miiCneven, rom mecniereb-

ma daafrTxes sulebi mumiis motacebiT. maT gadakarges ,,alta-

is princesa~ kidini da Tu mumias kvlav Zvel adgilas ar da-

ubruneben, axali katastrofebia mosalodneli.

mmssoofflliiooss mmoossaaxxlleeoobbiiss 7700%% ssaaffrrTTxxiiss qqvveeSSaaaa

germaniis ekologiis ministri robert riotgeni acxadebs,

rom klimatis cvlilebebma SeiZleba mravalnairi saxis cvli-

lebebi SeiZleba

gamoiwvios mcena-

reebsa da cxove-

lebSi. adamiani,

miuxedavad Tana-

medrove ganviTare-

bisa, ver gaumk-

lavdeba garemomc-

vel samyaros da

im movlenebs, rac

SeiZleba ganviTar-

des. mas Semoutevs

veluri buneba.

ganviTarebuli

qveynebis 70% mTlianad garemomcvel samyaros mowyalebazea

damokidebuli. bunebrivi sakvebi adamianis racionis 90% Sead-

gens. tansacmeli, saTbobi, samkurnalo saSualebebi bunebis sa-

Cuqaria.

2100 wlisaTvis gaqreba cxovelTa da mcenareTa 30%, gaq-

roba Tanmimdevrulad gagrZeldeba adamianis ,,daxmarebiT~.

rrooggoorr ggaammooiiyyuurreebbiiaann uuccxxooppllaanneetteelleebbii

mecnierebi, astronomebi da biologebi cdiloben Seqmnan

zusti asli, rogor gamoiyurebian sxva planetebze macxovre-

beli arsebebi.

astrobiologi dirk Sliuze-makeSi vaSingtonis universite-

tidan amtkicebs, rom yinulis sqeli fenis qveS iupiteris Ta-

namgzavrze, SeiZleba arsebobdes rTuli piramidebis formis

nivTierebebi, romlebic savsea mikrobebiT, maTi sigrZe 1 mili-

metria.

sviten beneri floridis universitetis bioqimikosi amtki-

cebs, rom veneraze SeiZleba arsebobdes ramdenimeujrediani ar-

sebebi, romlebic mxolod garemomcvel samyaros eguebian.

saturnis Tanamgzavrze SesaZlebelia giganturi baqteriebi

arsebobdes. magram iq ganviTarebis procesebi Zalian nela mim-

dinareobs. da Sesabamisad, sicocxle Zalian nela viTardeba.

rac Seexeba evoluciis ufro maRalganviTarebul safexurs,

romlebTanac radiokavSiria Se-

saZlebeli, maTi garemoeba adamia-

nisas mxolod im SemTxvevaSi mi-

uaxlovdeba, Tu romelime plane-

taze, daaxloebiT, sicocxlis

iseTi pirobebi iqneba, rogoric

dedamiwazea, magram es, mecnierTa

mtkicebiT, gamoricxulia. astro-

biologebi irwmunebian, rom gan-

viTarebuli arsebebi, didi alba-

Tobaa, mtaceblebi iyvnen. miuxe-

davad amisa, maT iseTi organoebi

SeiZleba hqondeT, rom maTTan ra-

diosignalebiT dakavSireba SeiZ-

lebodes.

aaxxaallggaazzrrddoobbiiss eelleeqqssiirrii:: uussaaqqmmuurroobbaa,, RRvviinnoo ddaa nniioorrii

mecnieri-gerontol-

ogebi miiCneven, rom

dadga dro asaki sami

cifriT ganisazRvrebo-

des. ruseTSi mamakacTa

asaki 59, xolo qalebi-

sa _ 73-ia.

frangi gerontolo-

gebi irwmunebian, rom

safrangeTSi 10 000

xandazmulia, romelTa

asaki 100 welia.

40 wlis Semdeg 150

000 adamiani iqneba saf-

rangeTSi, romelTa asa-

ki 100 weliwads miaR-

wevs.

frangma Jana luiza kalmanma, romelic planetis didedad

iTvleba, 122 weliwadi da 164 dRe icocxla. jer es rekordi

kvlav ZalaSi rCeba. Jana luiza 11 weliwadi eweoda, uyvarda

Rvino da... niori.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-

neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-

velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-

gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.

rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda

gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-

velno, erTad RvTisaken!

RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!

lluuiizzaa SSaakkiiaaSSvviillii:

_ vwyevli im dRes, misi

rom mjeroda da arCevnebSi

xma miveci. ise Sevcdi, rom

xalxs bodiSi movuxade da va-

Riare, rom aseT Secdomas

roca adamiani uSvebs, rogo-

ric me davuSvi saakaSvili-

sadmi rwmenis gamo, politi-

kaSi yofnis ufleba ar aqvs-

Tqo.

_ ra aris Secdoma, ro-

melsac arasdros apatiebT

saakaSvils?

_ saakaSvils Secdomebi ar dauSvia, saakaSvili qvey-

nis moRalatea.

2010.04.30 , “jorjian taimsi”, amonaridi

`saerTo gazeTis~ redaqcia Rrma mwu-

xarebas gamoTqvams

lluuiizzaa SSaakkiiaaSSvviilliiss

gardacvalebis gamo da samZimars ucx-

adebs gansvenebulis ojaxs.

amave nomris skanvordis pasuxebi:1.layboba. 2. sanorini. 3. luJniki. 4. yara-

yumi. 5. orZeli. 6. bred. 7. yvirila. 8. yviTri.

9. sfinqsi. 10. bondi. 11. colikauri. 12. indi-

umi. 13. ufici. 14. uvertiura. 15. daTvi. 16. yi-

nuli. 17. tyupebi. 18. traseka. 19. sartyeli.

20. Cikago. 21. akademia. 22. Worikana. 23.

locia. 24. kapelo. 25. roki. 26. mada. 27. ka-

lami. 28. kenti. 29. anaga. 30. uniWo. 31. Jave-

ri. 32. nacisti. 33. ZilquSi. 34. actekebi. 35.

facacia. 36. kera. 37. darejani. 38. liZava. 39.

makrine. 40. muslimani 41. stiqia. 42. verSoki.

43. Soki. 44. etaJeri. 45. araukaria. 46. endos-

kopi. 47. fiWvi. 48. kebi. 49. ifani. 50. kani. 51.

xinji. 52. barnovi. 53. mirkani. 54. kadafi. 55.

retuSori. 56. fiqri. 57. dakroni. 58. presli.

59. nemsa. 60. sicxe. 61. beci. 62. iaxta. 63.

sitroeni. 64. sentavo. 65. siko. 66. vela. 67.

evropa. 68. taleri. 69. Tamarindi. 70. niki.

skanvordi

1.prognozi. 2. nakveTi. 3. pomada. 4. kreta.

5. epikosi. 6. olqi. 7. makagoni. 8. tokio. 9.

Talxi. 10. orSimo. 11. mnaTe. 12. kamzoli. 12a.

squri. 13. meg. 14. dani. 15. mkvircxli. 16. urug-

vai. 17. valiza. 18. kirxe. 19. duSmani. 20. ra-

yifi. 21. cito. 22. xardani. 23. Sumerebi. 24.

iusticia. 25. balatoni. 26. jezve. 27. raul.

28. lixi. 29. patisoni. 30. georgini. 31. abor-

tmaxeri. 32. Stefan. 33. aJuri. 34. Skolniki.

35. taisoni. 36. Janri. 37. driblingi. 38. Cili.

39. celibati. 40. finali. 41. gorda. 42. cimo-

ri. 43. nargile. 44. rukzaki. 44a. kuranti. 45.

sarWi. 46. krini. 47.logani. 48. ogonioki. 49.

pasadena. 50. gonorea. 51. paata. 52. brineri. 53.

askili. 54. maraToni. 55. gogita. 56. bigamia. 57.

kaka. 58. gvadi. 59. vangogi. 60. kako. 61. beni.

62. pol. 63. midamo. 64. marodiori. 65. kobe.

66. diori. 67. diplomati.

krosvordi

Sveulad: 1. kaveuloba. 2. daltoniki. 3.

lekverTxi. 4. odri. 5. xaSmi. 6. hegemonia. 7.

saloniki. 11. magistrati. 14. vesteli. 15. rea-

nimacia. 16. naiarevi. 17. anjelina. 19. nereide-

bi. 20. fabrikanti. 22. qirqili. 27. lesi. 28.

enio. 29. bja.

Tarazulad: 6. hasi. 8. gadalendia. 9. Sa-

gali. 10. kentavri. 11. miCmani. 12. planireba.

13. gernika. 14. varinia. 18. sinai. 21. saaTi. 22.

qva. 23. adenauri. 24. lomberi. 25. indeqsi.

26. rcxila. 28. embolia. 30. jvarosani. 31.

oficeri.