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#12 (196) 7-13.III, 2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari
biZina ivaniSvili: nodar xaduri:
gazeTis dRevandeli nomeri 36 gverdiania
`ai, es gadaeciT Cemganqalbaton ninos...~
xom vambobdi _mogenatraT vova? _waikuzeT, mova-Tqo?!
`Cveni gundia saqarTvelo. ar arsebobs
sxva gundebi da am gundurobiT Tu
wavalT, ver mivalT Cven miznamde~
adamianebsmolodini
ar unda gavucruoT
hamlet WipaSvili:hamlet WipaSvili: xmamaRla vacxadeb _ arCevnebisgziT am xelisuflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia!
saak
aSvi
lis
`som
xuri
ocn
eba~
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vin aris qarTveli?_ qarTveli
aris adamiani, vinc qarTul
enaSi cxovrobs!
levan Rvinjilia:
aqa ambavi Citi Ciorasi da kidev sxvaCitunebisa...
saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.2
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Semosuli mmasalebi aavtorebs aar uubrundeba.aamm nniiSSnniiTT aaRRnniiSSnnuulliiaa ssaarreekkllaammoo mmaassaalleebbii..
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calmxrivi siyvaruli cudi ramea, gan-
sakuTrebiT cudia is, roca saqme politi-
kas da saxelmwifoTaSoris urTierTobas
exeba.
saqarTvelo vnebamoWarbebul im turfa
qalbatons hgavs, romelsac Tavmoyvareoba
daukargavs da yvelas daufaravad ekurku-
reba da efiandazeba, miuxedavad imisa, rom
sapasuxod srul gulgrilobas da ignori-
rebas iRebs.
Cven calmxrivi, uimedo siyvaruliT
gviyvars yvela Cveni mezobeli, imaT ki,
rogorc ityvian, sul cal fexze vkidi-
varT da Cven-
save saxlSi
ise gveqcevian,
TiTqos es sa-
xli Cveni ki
ara maTi iyos.
mezoblebs
rom Tavi dava-
neboT, Cven
calmxrivi si-
yvaruliT gv-
iyvars amerike-
lic da evro-
pelic, Cine-
lic da indoe-
lic, nigerielic da zanzibarielic.
mokled rom movWraT, yvelas TvalebSi
SevcicinebT, yvelas Casaxuteblad da
gulSi Casakravad vepotinebiT, imaT ki uk-
virT, ras gveRlabucebian es sabraloebio?
siyvarulis buSti gvaqvs gamskdari da
siyvarulis Seukavebloba anu siyvarulis
enurezia gvWirs.
ager axlaxan, ruseTTan, okupant qveya-
nasTan uvizo reJimi SemoviReT calmxri-
vad da calmxrivad gavuReT karebi _ mob-
rZandiT, mobrZandiT, ar mogeridoT, yve-
lani modiT, mTavaria, siyvaruli iyos da
yvelani daveteviTo.
rusebi yovelgvari dabrkolebis gareSe
Tavisuflad Semodian maTTvis specialu-
rad gaRebuli saqarTvelos karebSi qarT-
velebi malulad, qurdulad Tu Sevipare-
biT ruseTSi, mere ki maspinZlebs Tu ra-
Rac ar moewonaT, panRuriT gvyrian iqidan.
Tumca raRa marto ruseTidan _ Cven
gvyrian TurqeTidan, evropidan, aziidan,
amerikidan, radgan yvelgan aralegalurad,
anu ukanonod varT Separuli.
gasaocaria pirdapir, Cven yvelgan uka-
nonoebi varT, CvenTan saqarTveloSi ki
yvela kanonieria da yvela Cvenze gacile-
biT Tavisuflad da laRad grZnobs Tavs.
vSiSob, male TviT saqarTveloSic ar
gamogvacxadon aralegalebad, Torem saqar-
Tvelos sazRvrebs gareT, cxadia, iatakq-
veSeTSi cxovrebisTvis varT gametebulni.
rac Seexeba uvizo reJims ruseTTan,
rusebs Cveni viza raRaSi sWirdebaT _ mo-
isurveben, goramde movlen, moisurveben,
TbilisSi Semogrialdebian.
vaxtang xarCilava
redaqtoris sveti
biZina ivaniSvilis iuristTa jgu-
fis gancxadebiT, kontrolis palatis
mier 27 Tebervals gamotanili dadge-
nilebiT, 200 000 lariT dajarime-
bul nugzar xuciSvils Tbilisis sa-
qalaqo sasamarTlom sasarCelo wesiT
am sakiTxis marTlmsajulebaze uari
uTxra. amis Sesaxeb gancxadeba biZina
ivaniSvilis Tanagundelma iuristma
arCil kbilaSvilma dRes sastumro
„Tbilisi mariotSi“ gamarTul pres-
konferenciaze gaakeTa.
„sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia, rom
kontrolis palatam 2012 wlis 27
Tebervals gamoitana dadgenileba,
romliTac Sps „qarTu mSenebeli“ sa-
zogadoebrivi moZraoba „qarTuli oc-
neba“ da fizikuri piri nugzar xu-
ciSvili 200-200 aTasi lariT daja-
rimdnen. dajarimebis safuZveli gaxda
kontrolis palatis varaudi, rom
Sps „qarTu mSenebelma“ misi TanamS-
romlis nugzar xuciSvilis meSveo-
biT sazogadoebrivi moZraoba „qar-
Tul ocnebas“ Tanxa ukanonod Ses-
wira“, _ ganacxada kbilaSvilma da
dasZina, rom es dadgenileba nugzar
xuciSvilma sasarCelo wesiT 2012
wlis 1 marts Tbilisis saqalaqo sa-
samarTloSi gaasaCivra. 2012 wlis 2
marts nugzar xuciSvilma miiRo sasa-
marTlos ganCineba, romliTac mas
uari eTqva sarCelis ganxilvaze. gar-
da amisa, sasamarTlom xuciSvils re-
komendacia misca, rom am saqmeze sasa-
marTloSi ara sarCeli, aramed saCiva-
ri Seetana.
„miuxedavad imisa, rom nugzar xu-
ciSvilis sarCels Tan erTvoda yvela
dokumenti, sasamarTlom maTi dausa-
buTebeli ugulebelyofis xarjze
nugzar xuciSvils Tavisi uflebebis
efeqtiani dacvis saSualeba mouspo.
niSandoblivia isic, rom 1 marts sa-
Ramos 17.30 saaTze Setanil sarCel-
ze sasamarTlom uaryofiTi pasuxi
ukve 2 martis SuadRisTvis Caabara
nugzar xuciSvils. moqmedi kanonm-
deblobisa da dRemde arsebuli sasa-
marTlo praqtikis ignorirebiT, sar-
Celis ganxilvaze sasamarTlos uari,
iseve rogorc misi aralogikurad
forsirebuli moqmedeba naTels xdis,
rom sasamarTlom Secvala praqtika
mxolod imitom, rom es dakavSirebu-
lia „qarTul ocnebasTan“ _ ganacxa-
da kbiloaSvilma da dasZina, rom sa-
samarTlo sarCelis ganxilvas SesaZ-
loa ramdenime Tvec moundes maSin,
rodesac saCivris ganxilva rogorc
wesi, ramdenime kviraSi sruldeba.
„amiT cxadi xdeba isic, rom sasa-
marTlo yovel mxriv cdilobs, rac
SeiZleba swrafad daajarimos nugzar
xuciSvili, riTac sasamarTlos damo-
ukideblobisa da miukerZoeblobis
principi ugulebelyofilia“, _ aR-
niSna man.
dRevandel preskonferencias, gar-
da kbilaSvilisa, biZina ivaniSvilis
Tanagundeli iuristi zaqaria qucnaS-
vili, aseve „qarTu jgufis“ warmo-
madgenlebi, nugzar xuciSvilis advo-
kati ala kaxniauric eswrebodnen.
advokatebis TqmiT, isini am saqmes-
Tan dakavSirebiT danebebas ar apire-
ben da samarTlebriv davas gaagrZele-
ben.
sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia xa-
Suris policiis raionul sammarTve-
loSi braldebul solomon qimeri-
Zis tragikulad daRupvis faqti.
rogorc Sinagan saqmeTa saminist-
ros mier gavrcelebul versiaSia
naTqvami, braldebuli solomon qime-
riZe dakiTxvis dros xaSuris raio-
nuli sammarTvelos administraciu-
li Senobis mesame sarTulidan meo-
re sarTulze Camosvlisas, kibis mo-
ajiridan (?!) gadmovarda da sxeu-
lis mravlobiTi dazianebis Sedegad
saavadmyofoSi gardaicvala. saqmes-
Tan dakavSirebiT aRZrulia sisxlis
samarTlis saqme da mimdinareobs ga-
moZieba.
arada, masmediaSi gavrcelebuli
fotoebidan daRupuls aSkarad
etyoba sastiki cemis kvali, es ki
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros mier
gavrcelebul versias seriozul eW-
vqveS ayenebs.
xelisufleba, ukve mravali we-
lia, imiT trabaxobs, rom warsuls
Cabarda dro, rodesac patimrebi po-
liciis Senobidan cviodnen da amas
Tavis umTavres damsaxurebad mii-
wers. ase iyo guSinac, 28 Teber-
vals, rodesac prezidentma saakaS-
vilma parlamentSi yovelwliuri
moxsenebiT gamosvlisas kidev er-
Txel siamayiT ganacxada, rom axla
patimrebi aRar vardebian Sss-s fan-
jrebidan. swored am dros, socia-
lur qselebSi daRupuli solomon
qimeriZis Semzaravi kadrebi vrcel-
deboda, Sss-s pressamsaxuri ki ofi-
cialurad acxadebda, rom braldebu-
li policiis Senobis kibidan gadmo-
varda.
nebismier qveyanaSi, romelsac
raRac pretenzia gaaCnia demokrati-
ulobaze, aseT saeWvo viTarebaSi pa-
timris daRupvas myisierad mohyvebo-
da Sesabamisi Tanamdebobis pirebis
pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxis dasma.
koalicia „qarTuli ocneba“ katego-
riulad iTxovs Sinagan saqmeTa sami-
nistrosgan, Catardes damoukidebe-
li eqspertiza, bolomde iqnes gamo-
Ziebuli es saqme da pasuxisgebaSi
mieces yvela damnaSave piri. gamoZi-
ebis dasrulebamde ki, xaSuris po-
liciis raionis sammarTvelos uf-
rosi gadayenebul iqnes dakavebuli
Tanamdebobidan.
xaSuris policiis sammarTvels ufrosis gaTavisuf-
lebasTan dakavSirebiT
xaSuris policiis sammarTveloSi, savaraudod, mok-
lul solomon qimeriZis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT koali-
cia „qarTulma ocnebam“ pirvelive dRidan mwvave pro-
testi gamoTqva, koaliciis Tavmjdomarem biZina ivaniS-
vilma specialuri gancxadeba gaakeTa, xelisuflebas
mosTxova gamoZiebis dasrulebamde policiis ufrosis
gaTavisufleba da yvela damnaSave piris dasja.
rogorc koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“, ise sazogado-
ebisa da arasamTavrobo organizaciebis Zalisxmevis Se-
degad xaSuris policiis sammarTvelos ufrosi giorgi
xarSilaZe Tanamdebobidan gaTavisuflda. policiam ukan
daixia. aseTi
ram, ase swra-
fad pirvelad
moxda, magram
es sruliad ar
aris sakmarisi.
samarTlianobis
aRdgenas da
dacvas gacile-
biT meti sWirdeba. amitom, arCevnebSi gamarjvebis Sem-
deg, vpirdebiT yvelas, rom am da yvela aseT saqmes bo-
lomde miviyvanT da konkretuli damnaSaveebi pasuxs age-
ben kanonis winaSe.
politikuri koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadeba
sasamarTlom iivaniSvilis kkompaniis TTanamSromlis ssarCeli aar mmiiRo
koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadeba
3#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
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„„qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbiiss““ lliiddeerrii
bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii `̀ssaaxxaallxxoo
kkrreebbiissaa~~ ddaa `̀qqaarrTTuullii aakkaaddee-
mmiiiiss~~ wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbss SSeexxvv-
ddaa.. SSeexxvveeddrriiss SSeessaaxxeebb iinn-
ffoorrmmaacciiaassaa ddaa vviiddeeoommaassaallaass
iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss pprreessssaammddiivvnnoo aavv-
rrcceelleebbss..
rrooggoorrcc aaRRnniiSSnnuullii
kkaaddrreebbiiddaann iirrkkvveevvaa,,
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ggaassuullii wwlliiss 2266 mmaaiissss
rruussTTaavveelliiss mmooeeddaannzzee
ggaannvviiTTaarreebbuullii mmoovvllee-
nneebbii ggaanniixxiilleess..
`nebismieris qmedeba,
vinc 26 maiss iq iyo,
me miviCnev, rom aris
gmiroba Tqveni da yve-
la im adamianis mxri-
dan, vinc iq ikribebo-
da, garda politikosebisa,
romelTac sxvanairi valde-
bulebebi aqvT. absolutu-
rad gmirobad mimaCnia, da
Zalian samwuxaroa, rom gmi-
robisTvis, Tavisi qveynis
siyvarulisTvis Zalian bev-
ri mZimed daisaja. me vici,
rom arian gardacvlilebic
da Zalian samwuxaroa, rom
es yvelaferi moxda. es Cve-
ni moZalade xelisuflebis
bralia”, _ ganacxada ivaniS-
vilma.
`qarTuli ocnebis~ li-
deris sityvis Semdeg, Sex-
vedraze gancxadeba “saxal-
xo krebis” liderma nona
gafrindaSvilma gaakeTa. misi
TqmiT, “saxalxo krebis”
idea “am gziT samarTlia-
ni arCevnebis Catarebis
miRweva iyo”.
`Cvengan xelisufleba-
Si mosvlas aravin apireb-
da da dResac aravin api-
rebs~, _ ganacxada gafrin-
daSvilma.
`demokratiul arCevnebam-
de didi dro iyo qalbato-
no nona~, _ aRniSna ivaniS-
vilma.
gafrindaSvilis
TqmiT, ki demokrati-
uli arCevnebi, rom
ar iqneboda, maT es
icodnen.
`dRes Tqven Zali-
an maRali reitingi
gaqvT sazogadoebaSi
da amitom gaxda Se-
saZlebeli...~, _ mi-
marTa `saxalxo kre-
bis” Tavamjdomarem
biZina ivaniSvils.
rogorc ivaniSvi-
lis pressamdivnos
mier gavrcelebuli kadrebi-
dan irkveva, Sexvedris mona-
wileebma, savaraudod, “de-
mokratiuli moZraobis” li-
der da ‘saxalxo krebis”
aRmasrulebeli sabWos
wevris, nino burjanaZis
Sesaxebac isaubres.
qalbatoni ninos Se-
saxeb gancxadeba bbiiZZiinnaa
iivvaanniiSSvviillmmaa gaakeTa:
`Cveni gundia sa-qarTvelo. ar arse-bobs sxva gundebida am gundurobiTTu wavalT, ver mi-valT Cven miznamdeda amas ver gavake-TebT. Cemi TavisT-vis movedi me aq imi-tom, rom es Cemi sam-Sobloa, Cemia, sxvaganar davdgebodi da Tavsar gavwiravdi. asexarT Tqvenc, Tqveni,romaa es samSoblo,imitom gindaT Tavi ga-wiroT. sakuTari inte-resebisTvis ibrZvisadamiani pirvel rig-Si, me-dan da Cemi-danmodis yvelaferi, mag-ram niWierma adamianmaunda moaxerxos konk-retul situaciaSiswori prioritetebisgakeTeba da ar unda
darCe patara bavSvi-viT, rom Cemi da me – ai,es gadaeciT Cemganqalbaton ninos. araris aucilebeli mii-Ro monawileoba, TuSeni monawileobiT kiar exmarebi, azianeb.aseT SemTxvevaSi undadaiWiro iseTi pozi-cia, iseTi mdgomareo-ba unda airCio, rom sa-erTo saqmes Tu ver mi-exmarebi, ar daazianomainc. es aris Cemi mo-qalaqeobrivi pozi-cia, Cemi msoflmxedve-lobac esaa, ase mi-cxovria dRemde, asevzrdi Cems Svilebs,ase SemiZlia qalba-ton ninosac gadavceda movuwodo~.
biZina ivaniSvilTan Sex-
vedras `saxalxo krebis~
wevrebi: nona gafrindaSvi-
li, luka kurtaniZe, soso
jaWvliani, rezo esaZe, aseve
`qarTuli akademiis~ warmo-
madgenlebi nukri qanTaria,
Temur naneiSvili, mwerali
merab SaTiriSvili da sxve-
bi eswrebodnen.
biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:
`ai, es gadaeciT Cemgan qalbaton ninos...~
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rriiaa ppaarrllaammeennttSSii aannttiikkoorruuffcciiuullii ssaaggaammooZZiieebboo kkoommii-
ssiiiiss SSeeqqmmnniiss iinniicciiaattiivvaass ddiipplloommaattiiuurrii kkoorrppuussiissaa
ddaa ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiiss wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbii ggaaaacc-
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ssqqeemmeebbii ddookkuummeennttuurraadd iiqqnneebbaa wwaarrmmooddggeenniillii.. „„qqaarrTTuu-
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ttoorrss mmiimmaarrTTaa,, TTuu vviinnmmeess ppaarrllaammeennttiiss,, pprreezziiddeennttiiss,,
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mmiissiiaa pprreezziiddeenn-
ttiiss,, mmiissii ggaarreemmooccvviiss,, oojjaaxxiiss wweevvrreebbiissaa ddaa uummaaRRllee-
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TTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbuullii ffaaqqtteebbii ggaaiixxsseennaa,, rroommlleebbiicc mmaann
pprreezziiddeennttss ddookkuummeenntteebbiiss ssaaxxiiTT wwaarruuddggiinnaa..
`medianiusi~
4 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
qqaarrTTuullii mmxxaarriiss mmiieerr rruu-
sseeTTTTaann ccaallmmxxrriivvaadd ssaavviizzoo
rreeJJiimmiiss ggaauuqqmmeebbiiss TTaaoobbaazzee ddaa
ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo-rruusseeTTss SSoorriiss
ddiipplloommaattiiuurrii uurrTTiieerrTToobbiiss
aaRRddggeenniiss ppeerrssppeeqqttiivvaazzee ,,,,ssaaeerr-
TToo ggaazzeeTTss~~ rruusseeTTiiss ffeeddeerraa-
cciiaaSSii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss yyooffiillii
eellCCii,, ppoolliittiikkiiss mmeeccnniieerreebbaaTTaa
ddooqqttoorrii zurab abaSiZeeessaauubbrraa..
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rruusseeTTTTaann
ssaavviizzoo rreeJJiimmiiss ccaallmmxxrriivvaadd ggaa-
uuqqmmeebbaa uummnniiSSvvnneelloovvaanneess ppoollii-
ttiikkuurr nnaabbiijjaadd SSeeffaassddaa.. TTqqvveenn
rraass ffiiqqrroobbTT,, pprreezziiddeennttiiss iinnii-
cciiaattiivvaazzee ddaa rraass SSeeiiZZlleebbaa
uukkaavvSSiirrddeebbooddeess mmiixxeeiill ssaaaakkaaSS-
vviilliiss eess ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbaa??
_ dRes or qveyanas Soris
procesebi imdenad CixSi Sesu-
li da dramatulia, principSi
qarTuli mxridan aseTi ga-
dawyvetileba dadebiTad SeiZ-
leba Sefasdes. me piradad, mi-
vesalmebi nebismier gonivrul
gadawyvetilebas, romelic
qarTul-rusuli urTierTobis
daregulirebiskenaa mimarTu-
li.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,,
pprreezziiddeennttiiss ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbaa
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii SSeeqqmmnniill vviiTTrree-
bbaass uukkaavvSSiirrddeebbooddeess?? vvgguulliissxx-
mmoobb,, bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss ppoollii-
ttiikkuurr aassppaarreezzzzee ggaammooCCeennaass,, aann
TTuunnddaacc rruusseeTTSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree
ppoolliittiikkuurr pprroocceesseebbss..
_ SesaZloa, es gadawyveti-
leba marTlac ukavSirdebodes
orive aspeqts. Tumca, sabo-
loo jamSi, rusi xalxis misa-
marTiT, Cveni mxridan, es erT-
gvari pozitiuri gzavnilia.
qarTvelebs rus xalxTan
problemebi ar gvaqvs, Cven
problema ruseTis xelisuf-
lebasTan gvaqvs. vfiqrob, am
gadawyvetilebaSi saxifaTo da
sarisko araferia. TavisTavad,
pasportSi viza Caewebeba Tu
ara, risk-faqtorebs es arc
zrdis da arc amcirebs. prin-
cipSi, vizas ufro simboluri
datvirTva aqvs, radgan sazR-
varze gadmosuli pirovnebis
Semowmeba nebismier SemTxveva-
Si mainc xdeba.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rruusseeTTTTaann
ccaallmmxxrriivvaadd ssaavviizzoo rreeJJiimmiiss ggaa-
uuqqmmeebbaass rraa ddaaddeebbiiTTii pplluusseebbii
eeqqnneebbaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloossTTvviiss??
_ upirveles yovlisa, sa-
qarTveloSi turistebis mosa-
zidad, SesaZloa, damatebiTi
stimuli gaxdes. moskovSi
uamravi Cveni Tanamemamule
cxovrobs da cxadia, es ga-
dawyvetileba maTzec dadebi-
TaT imuSavebs. SesaZloa, es
iyos investorebis mozidvis
erT-erTi elementic. Tumca
investors vizebis garda, ro-
gor wesi, ufro sxva moTxov-
nebi gaaCnia.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rrooggoorr
ffiiqqrroobbTT,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii rruussuu-
llii iinnvveessttiicciieebbiissTTvviiss xxeellaayy-
rreellii ggaarreemmooppiirroobbeebbiiaa??
_ dRes ruseTidan xdeba
kapitalis gadineba. qveynidan
marto SarSan, daaxloebiT, 80
miliardi dolari gavida.
msoflioSi dRes rTuli eko-
nomikuri viTarebaa. investici-
ebi cotaa, amitom investoreb-
ze midis namdvili nadiroba.
saqarTveloSic am kuTxiT, aq-
tiurad unda vimuSaoT da in-
vestorebisTvis ufro xelsay-
reli pirobebi SevqmnaT. Tuki
ruseTTan urTierTobebis gaum-
jobesebis tendencia gaCndeba,
es ucxour investiciebsac wa-
axalisebs.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, rruusseeTTiiss
ffeeddeerraacciiaamm ggaammooTTqqvvaa mmzzaaoobbaa ssaa-
qqaarrTTvveellooss mmooqqaallaaqqeeeebbiissTTvviiss
ssaavviizzoo rreeJJiimmii ggaaaauuqqmmooss ddaa ssaa-
qqaarrTTvveelloossTTaann ddiipplloommaattiiuurrii
uurrTTiieerrTToobbaa aaRRaaddggiinnooss.. rrooggoorr
ffiiqqrroobbTT,, aarrsseebboobbss aammiiss rreeaa-
lluurrii SSeessaaZZlleebblloobbaa??
_ qarTuli mxaris gzavni-
lis sapasuxod ruseTis xeli-
sufleba iZulebuli gaxda Ta-
visi pozicia gamoexata. ruse-
Tis sagareo saqmeTa saminist-
ros gancxadebaSi ori momen-
tia gasaTvaliswinebeli: er-
Ti_savizo reJimis moxsna, me-
ore_diplomatiuri urTier-
Tobis aRdgena.
ruseTis mxridan savizo
reJimis gauqmebas rac Seexeba,
maT am sakiTxSi saqarTvelos
Tanxmoba sulac ar sWirdebaT.
2001 wels ruseTis mxarem
roca saqarTvelosTan savizo
reJimi calmxrivad SemoiRo,
amis Sesaxeb maT aravisTvis ar
ukiTxavT, maT Soris arc qar-
Tuli mxarisTvis. ase rom, ru-
seTs Tu savizo reJimis gauq-
meba surs_gaauqmos.Ees, prin-
cipSi, dadebiTad iqneba Sefa-
sebuli saqarTveloSic da da-
savleTSic
mxareebs Soris diplomati-
uri urTierTobis aRdgenas
rac Seexeba, am etapze amis ve-
ranair winapirobas ver vxe-
dav. manmade, sanam rusuli mxa-
re ar gaiyvans saqarTvelos
teritoriidan jarebs, raime
qmediTi nabijebis gadadgmaze
saubari naadrevia. axla dip-
lomatiuri urTierTobebis aR-
dgena Cveni mxridan afxazeTisa
da samxreT oseTis damouki-
deblobis aRiarebis tolfasi
iqneba. ris Sedegadac, faqtob-
rivad, Cven TviTon davakano-
nebT im viTarebas, rac ruseT-
ma agvistos omis Semdeg daam-
kvidra.
__ qqaarrTTuullmmaa mmxxaarreemm rruussee-
TTiiss xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss SSeeTTaavvaazzee-
bbaa mmoorriigg ppiiaarr-kkaammppaanniiaadd aaRRiiqqvvaa..
TTqqvveenn rraass ffiiqqrroobbTT??
_ ruseTis mxarem kargad
icis, rom arsebul viTarebaSi
diplomatiur urTierTobebze
qarTuli mxare molaparakebe-
bis dawyebas ar daTanxmdeba.
Amitom, SesaZloa, piaris
WrilSi ganvixiloT maTi es
iniciativa. ruseTma samxreT
oseTisa da afxazeTis damouki-
deblobis aRiarebiT samarT-
lebrivi Cixi Seqmna. amitom am
etapze aravin icis, rogor un-
da gamovideT am samarTlebri-
vi Cixidan.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, TTqqvveenn rroo-
ggoorr wwaarrmmooggiiddggeenniiaaTT ssaammxxrreeTT
oosseeTTiissaa ddaa aaffxxaazzeeTTiiss ssaakkiiTTxxiiss
ddaarreegguulliirreebbaa,, mmiiTT uuffrroo mmaaSSiinn,,
rrooccaa rruusseeTTmmaa mmaaTTii ddaammoouukkiiddeebb-
lloobbaa aaRRiiaarraa.. aammiiss SSeemmddeegg ssaa-
qqaarrTTvveelloossTTaann ssuurrss ddiipplloommaa-
ttiiuurrii uurrTTiieerrTToobbiiss aaRRddggeennaa??
_ dRes Zalian rTuli saT-
qmelia, Tu rogor unda mox-
des am problemis gadaWra. mi-
Tumetes, ruseTis mxare ar
apirebs ukan daxevas da samx-
reT oseTisa da afxazeTTan mi-
marTebaSi poziciis Secvlas.
meore mxriv, veranairi xeli-
sufleba saqarTveloSi ver Se-
egueba arsebul viTarebas. ami-
tom, gamosavali jer ar Cans.
Tumca, gamouvali viTareba ar
arsebobs. mTavaria iyos poli-
tikuri neba.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,,
ppuuttiinnmmaa 44 mmaarrttiiss aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss
SSeemmddeegg ppoozziicciiaa SSeeiiccvvaallooss ddaa
ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss mmTTaavvrroobbaassTTaann mmoo-
llaappaarraakkeebbeebbss ddaassTTaannxxmmddeess??
_ vfiqrob, uaxloes moma-
valSi am kuTxiT cvlilebebi
mosalodneli araa. dRes mos-
kovSi sxva problemebiT arian
dakavebulni. maT arCevnebis
Semdeg samTavrobo struqtu-
rebi unda Camoayalibon, rac
martivi saqme araa. ase rom,
putinis mTavrobas saqarTve-
losTvis jerjerobiT ar sca-
lia. amasTan, isini daelodebi-
an Semodgomaze saqarTveloSi
movlenebi rogor ganviTardeba.
Aqtiurobas ufro savaWro
ekonomikuri TvalsazrisiT ve-
li. Cveni produqcia Rvino, mi-
neraluri wyalebi nel-nela
daubrundeba rusul bazars,
rac TavisTavad win gadadgmu-
li nabijia.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzuurraabb,, ffaaqqttoobbrrii-
vvaadd,, vvllaaddiimmeerr ppuuttiinniiss xxeellii-
ssuufflleebbaaSSii mmoossvvlliiss ssaakkiiTTxxii
ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilliiaa.. rrooggoorr ffiiqq-
rroobbTT,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,, ppuuttiinnmmaa ddaa-
ssaavvlleeTTiiss mmiimmaarrTT TTaavviissii ppoollii-
ttiikkaa uuffrroo SSeeaarrbbiillooss ddaa
llooiiaalluurrii ggaaxxddeess??
_ dRes bevri msjelobaa
imasTan dakavSirebiT, Tu ro-
gori iqneba putinis politika,
ufro mkacri, Tu SedarebiT
rbili. vfiqrob, dasavleTis
misamarTiT misi ganwyoba ar
Seicvleba da is isev antida-
savluri principebis erTguli
darCeba. qveynis SigniT ki gar-
kveul cvlilebebs ganaxorci-
elebs, Tumca es, albaT, ufro
kosmetikuri cvlilebebi iqne-
ba. Tumca davelodoT movle-
nebs. rogorc uinston CerCili
ityoda, ruseTi “matrioSkasa-
viT” gamocanaSi Cadebuli ga-
mocanaao.
miranda nabaxteveli
zurab abaSiZe: zurab abaSiZe: ruseTis mTavrobasTan Cveni mxridan dialogze wasvla afxazeTisa da
samxreT oseTis damoukideblobis aRiarebis tolfasi iqneba
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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Tbilisis zzogierT uubans eleqtromomarageba
droebiT SSeezRudebaTelasis cnobiT, sare-
monto samuSaoebis gamo 7
marts 10 saaTidan 16 sa-
aTamde CuRureTis raio-
nis nawils eleqtroener-
giis miwodeba droebiT
SeezRudeba.
SezRudva Seexeba: aR-
maSeneblis gamziris (na-
wilobriv), winamZRvriS-
vilis, javaxiSvilis, uznaZis, marjaniSvilis da
mimdebare quCebis macxovreblebs.
xvalve 7 marts 11 saaTidan 17 saaTamde sa-
burTalos raionis nawils eleqtroenergiis mi-
wodeba droebiT SeezRudeba.
SezRudva Seexeba: sairmis goris, burZglas,
sairmis da mimdebare quCebis macxovreblebs.
saremonto samuSaoebis dasrulebisTanave
abonentebs eleqtromomarageba aRudgebaT.
saqarTvelos TTurquli delegacia sstumrobs
saqarTvelos TurqeTis sabaJo administraci-
is delegacia stumrobs.
delegaciis wevrebi Tbilisis gaformebis
ekonomikur zonas ewvivnen da mis struqturas,
muSaobis principebsa da danergil siaxleebs ga-
ecnen. stumrebma konkretuli departamentebis
muSaobis Sesaxeb informacia maTi xelmZRvanele-
bisgan miiRes.
erTkviriani vizitis farglebSi delegaciis
wevrebi foTisa da adliis gaformebis ekonomi-
kur zonebsac moinaxuleben da baTumis portsa
da sarfis sabaJos estumrebian.
vizitis mizani ganxorcielebuli reformebis
gacnoba da gamocdilebis gaziarebaa.
`medianiusi~
5saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
cota xania gasuli axali
politikuri partiis ””qqarTu-
li ocneba-ddemokratiuli sa-
qqarTvelos”” sainiciativo
jgufis prezentaciidan da
politikuri koalicia „qqar-
Tuli ocnebis“ dafuZnebidan,
Tumca sazogadoebis did na-
wilSi molodini, rogorc
partiis mSeneblobis, aseve
koaliciis mimarT, sakmaod ma-
Ralia. koaliciis ganviTare-
bis da mosalodneli siaxlee-
bis Sesaxeb vesaubrebiT koa-
licia ””qqarTuli ocnebis”” po-
litikuri sabWWos aRmasrule-
bel mdivans, politikuri par-
tia „qqarTuli ocneba–demok-
ratiuli saqqarTvelos“ saini-
ciativo jgufis wevrs no-dar xadurs.
_ batono nodar, ra etap-
zea koaliciis formireba?
”qarTul ocnebaSi” axali sa-
xeebis gamoCenas unda elodos
sazogadoeba? rodis igegmeba
axali partiis yriloba, ra
mdgomareobaa regionebSi?
_ koalicia ”qarTul oc-
nebaSi” gaerTianda axali po-
litikuri partia ”qarTuli
ocneba – demokratiuli sa-
qarTvelo”, ”Tavisufali de-
mokratebi”, ”respublikuri
partia”, aseve cnobili poli-
tikosebi - zviad ZiZiguri,
koba daviTaSvili. koaliciis
kari ar aris daketili.. Cven
mowadinebuli varT, rom axa-
li saxeebis integracia maqsi-
malurad moxdes da politi-
kuri procesi ufro gaZlier-
des. am mimarTulebiT mimdina-
reobs sakamod saintereso aq-
tiuri konsultaciebi.
sazogadoebisaTvis cnobi-
lia, rom qalbatoni guguli
maRraZe apirebs ”qalTa parti-
is” datovebas Cvens partias-
Tan TanamSromlobis mizniT.
analogiuri molaparakebebi
mimdinareobs sxva politiku-
ri Zalebis warmomadgenleb-
Tan. ar minda, movlenebs ga-
vuswro da amiT
garkveuli safr-
Txe Sevuqmna am
process, amdenad
konkretikisagan
Tavs Sevikaveb.
Tumca, garwmunebT,
bevr saintereso adamians na-
xavT im politikur ZalaSi,
romlis damfuZnebeli yrilo-
ba martis bolos-aprilis da-
sawyisSi igegmeba.
am etapze mzaddeba parti-
is sadamfuZneblo dokumenta-
cia, iseve, rogorc damfuZne-
beli yriloba. partiis prog-
ramaze bevri adamiani muSaobs.
amjerad mosamzadebeli etapia
da amitomac, ”ar Cans” samuSa-
oebi. merwmuneT, Zalian bevri
adamiania CarTuli am muSaoba-
Si, rom Cvenma samuSaom kargi
Sedegi gamoiRos da miviRoT
is Sedegi, rasac sruliad sa-
qarTvelo elodeba. adamianebs
molodini ar unda gavucru-
oT.
amasTan, uamravi adamiani
modis, romelic gamoxatavs
mzadyofnas aqtiuri monawi-
leoba miiRos axali partiis
dafiZnebasa da saqmianobaSi. es
kidev ufro gvimyarebs mosaz-
rebas, rom „qarTuli ocneba“
Zalian Zlier politikur su-
bieqtad yalibdeba, romelsac
ZaluZs dasaxuli miznebis
miRweva.
_ ra mdgomareobaa regio-
nebSi? rodis gaixsneba ofise-
bi?
_ 5 martidan daiwyo re-
gionebSi ofisebis gaxsna po-
litikuri koaliciis lidere-
bis monawileobiT. yvela regi-
onSi, yvela raionul centrSi
gaixsneba ”qarTuli ocnebis”
ofisi. ofisi ukve gaixsna
xobsa da qobuleTSi. am dRe-
ebSi gaixsneba ofisebi mcxeTa-
Si, sagarejoSi, TianeTSi....
martis bolosaTvis saqarTve-
los yvela raionSi „qarTuli
ocnebis“ ofisi sruli dat-
virTviT imuSavebs.
amis paralelurad TiToe-
ul sofelSi, TiToeul adami-
anTan mivalT, uSualod am
adamianebisagan gavigebT yvela
im problemas, rac maT daug-
rovdaT da am problemebis
mogvarebis gzebs avsaxavT sa-
arCevno blokis programaSi.
_ ramdenad aris solomon
qimeriZis gardacvalebis faq-
ti gamafrTxilebeli niSani
regionis mosaxleobisaTvis?
Zalian vwuxvar, rom gamW-
virvale SenobebSi igive xde-
ba, rac „gaumWvirvale“ poli-
ciis SenobaSi xdeboda. es
tragediaa, rodesac sruliad
janmrTeli adamiani, romelic
mihyavT policiaSi gaurkveve-
li statusiT, gardacvlils
miasveneben Sin, magram aranak-
lebi tragediaa, is, rac mas
mohyva _ ojaxi ise daaSines,
rom isini uars amboben damo-
ukidebeli eqspertizis Cata-
rebaze. qimeriZis ojaxi alya-
Semortymuli iyo, qarTuli
sazogadoebisaTvis cnobili,
sayvareli adamianebi panaSvid-
ze ar SeuSves. ra samarTleb-
riv garemoSi, ra qarTul
tradiciaSi jdeba es - ar vi-
ci
_ Tumca sazogadoebis mx-
ridan am faqts sayovelTao
SeSfoTeba ar mohyolia....
_ sazogadoeba informaci-
ul vakuumSia, gazeTs yvela
ver kiTxulobs - Zviria, miT
umetes - regionebSi. 3 nacio-
naluri arxi, romelic ma-
uwyeblobs qveynis teritori-
aze, blokavs informacias an
informacias mxolod garkveu-
li rakursiT awvdian sazoga-
doebas. am faqtis Sesaxeb ase-
Ti tipis informacia gavr-
celda, rom „gardacvlili qi-
meriZis panaSvidze politiku-
ri partiis warmomadgenlebi
Cavidnen“, realurad ki cnobi-
li, yvelasaTvis pativsacemi
adamianebi policiis SenobaSi
tragikulad gardacvlili
adamianis axloblebisaTvis
samZimris gamosaxatavad mivid-
nen. da sTxoves ojaxs, rom
moeTxovaT damoukidebeli eqs-
pertizis Catareba, raTa gada-
varCinoT sxva adamianebis si-
cocxle, romlebic ar arian
dazRveulni, rom policiis
gamWvirvale Senobebidan co-
cxlebi, uvnebelni gamovlen.
adamiani gaurkvevel viTareba-
Si gardaicvala. rogor war-
mogidgeniaT, ramdeni kilog-
ramic unda iyos adamiani, Se-
saZlebeli, rom dabarbacdes
da kibidan moajirs gadaevlos
da ise gadmovardes?!
_ rogor apirebs koalicia
analogiuri Zaladobisagan
adamianebis dacvas?
_ raTa adamiani iyos da-
culi, man unda icodes, ra
xdeba qveyanaSi. Zalian marti-
via adamianebiT manipulireba,
roca maT ar aqvT informacia.
Cven dawyebuli gvaqvs gazeTis
gamocema, romelic vrceldeba
mTel saqarTveloSi. Seiqmneba
alternatiuli sainformacio
wyaroebi, male amoqmeddeba
televizia da imedi maqvs, mo-
saxleoba miiRebs obieqtur
informacias, gavrcelda in-
formacia, rom gadaiWreba ”ma-
estros” satelitur mauwyeb-
lobaze dabrunebis problema.
es yvelaferi informaciul
vakuums gaarRvevs.
yvelaze mniSvnelovani ma-
inc Sexvedrebia amomrCevleb-
Tan, romelsac „Rrublis“ anu
mxolod informaciis Sesrut-
vis funqcia ar eqneba, Cven Ti-
Toeul adamians mivawvdiT
informacias, Tu ra xdeba qve-
yanaSi, gavuziarebT umZimesi
viTarebidan qveynis gamoyvanis
Cveneul xedvebs. adamianebs
unda hqondeT da eqnebaT is
SegrZneba, rom maT daicavs sa-
zogadoeba, qarTuli saxelm-
wifo. mTeli eris mobilizeba
unda moxdes, raTa erTxel da
samudamod daiZlios SiSi,
uimedoba, ekonomikuri sidux-
Wire...
_ biZina ivaniSvilis moqa-
laqeobis sakiTxi 14 Teber-
vals unda gadawyvetiliyo, am
TariRma aprilis dasawyisis-
Tvis gadaiwia. im logikis
gaTvaliswinebiT, romlis sa-
fuZvelzec batoni biZina aRar
aris saqarTvelos moqalaqe,
Tu arsebobs garantia, rom
is namdvilad miiRebs moqala-
qeobas?
_ xelisuflebis mxridan
kanonebis Wra-kerva saintere-
so procesSi Sevida. erT dRe-
Si cvlian kanonebs, miRebuli
kanonebidanac mxolod im ka-
nonebs asruleben, rac Tavad
surT. me iuridiul detaleb-
Si ver Seval, amas gacilebiT
ukeT akeTeben Cemi kolega
iuristebi, romlebic sainici-
ativo jgufis wevrebi arian,
am sakiTxze iuristTa jgufi
muSaobs. magram msurs dagarw-
munoT, rom aranairi legalu-
ri safuZveli ar arsebobs,
rom biZina ivaniSvili ar gax-
des saqarTvelos moqalaqe.
saqarTvelos konstituciis,
yvela kanonis da saerTaSori-
so konvenciis sruli dacviT,
is aucileblad gaxdeba saqar-
Tvelos moqalaqe.
nino fircxalava
nodar xaduri:nodar xaduri:
adamianebs molodiniar unda gavucruoT
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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interviu politolog
hamlet WipaSvilTan
_ batono hamlet, ramdenime dRis
ukan saakaSvili parlamentis winaSe
angariSiT gamovida. kvlav negatiu-
rad SeafasebT mis gamosvlas?
_ sanam SekiTxvas pasuxs gavcem-
de, erTi ambavi minda mogiyveT. mo-
gexsenebaT, am dReebSi valeri gel-
baxians deda gardaecvala. Cven erT
xans erTad viyaviT aslan abaSiZes-
Tan da mindoda am kacisTvis mimesam-
Zimrebina depeSiT. mivedi fostaSi.
meubnebian, dRes SabaTia, orSabaTam-
de ver dagexmarebiT, radgan saCxe-
ris fosta SabaTs ar muSaobs, arc
Cven vmuSaobT SabaT-kviras. arada,
micvalebuls kviras asaflaveben. ra
vqnaT? saqarTvelo evropul stan-
dartebs miuaxlovda, magram fosta
jer ar muSaobs. axla, naxeT, fos-
ta ranair oTaxSi mdebareobs _
iataki ayrili, bJutavs Zveli `pli-
ta~, romelzec sami asakovani qalba-
toni kvercxs xarSavs, imisTvis, rom
raRac gagirkvion, Zvel, gayviTle-
bul Jurnals nela furclaven,
gverdebi rom ar daexes. rom gada-
furclos, fostis TanamSromeli
TiTze ifurTxebs, gverds gadaSlis,
eZebs, mainc verafers poulobs.
Tqven metyviT, daukavSirdi in-
ternetiT _ saCxereSi ramden ojaxs
aqvs interneti, miTxariT. mesiji ga-
vugzavno adamians dedis gardacva-
lebis mwuxarebas viziareb-Tqo?
saakaSvili ki gveubneba _ axla
iusticiis saxls gavxsni, gadmox-
valT manqanidan da erTi fanjris
principiT mogemsaxurebiano.
saqme imaSia, rom gelbaxiani da
misnairebi rom ar yofiliyo aslan
abaSiZis garemocvaSi axla aslani
prezidenti iqneboda. erTi sityviT,
gelbaxiani ki gaaTavisufla xeli-
suflebam giraos sanacvlod, magram
sasamarTlo winaa, ara mgonia, yvela-
ferma umtkivneulod Caiaros.
axla rac Seexeba Tqvens SekiTx-
vas. miSam pirdapir dagvasaqma Tavze.
jondis ki ara, saqarTvelos daas-
aqma. roca ambobs, rom mandaturebi
wagiyvanen, talaxi gamzadebulia,
kargad dagzelen da gagivlis fanta-
ziebi, es niSnavs, rom yvelas dedebs
gitirebTo. magram ra Tqva iseTi
jondim, rasac ar laparakobs mTeli
saqarTvelo. saakaSvilis deda aris
yvelgan, sadac umaRlesi saswavle-
belia, mamamisis ambebi yvelam icis.
misi Zmebi rom yvela saxis biznesSi
arian, esec araa axali ambavi. Sar-
San amis Tqma CaxvaZem daapira, mag-
ram, rogorc ki saakaSvili Seepasu-
xa, SiSisgan Caisvara da aqamde da-
dis Casvrili. axla ki tribunaze
ukve `CadJmuli~ avida. erTi sity-
viT, miSam yvelas gviTxra: Cemi ..-e
kitria, modiT, WameT. yvela fexebze
mkidixarTo.
_ man ilaparaka...
_ moica. rac man ilaparaka, yve-
laferi iyo abdaubda, gaugebari,
imitom rom, TviTonve ar icoda, ras
laparakobda. tribunaze aqeT-iqiT
Tavs imitomac iqnevda, win dafebi
aqvs da imaze kiTxulobs. TviTon
azrzec araa arafris. wesiT, aseT
situaciaSi, roca politikuri mo-
winaaRmdege gamouCnda biZina ivaniS-
vilis saxiT, mas sul sxva raRace-
bi unda elaparaka. roca qveyanaSi
katastrofulad moimata gadasaxa-
debma, roca gauaresda cxovrebis
done, aq raRaa Tavmosawonebeli.
_ darbazSi isxdnen elCebi.
sxdomas, albaT, usmendnen daintere-
sebuli pirebi dasavleTSi. Tqveni
azriT, ratom uWeren mxars, roca
demokratia saqarTveloSi iluziaa,
xolo saakaSvili sruliad araprog-
nozirebadi?
_ aSS-ma Tavis droze SeimuSava
gegma ruseTis winaaRmdeg. amerikuli
gegmis nawili iyo postsabWoTa qvey-
nebSi protestis muxtis gaRviveba.
CeCneTis ambebic aSS-is provocire-
buli iyo. dResac dabejiTebiT acxa-
deben, rom ruseTi daiSleba da a.S.
aSS-is yofili saxelmwifo mdi-
vani madlen olbraiti rom ambobs,
msoflioSi arakanonzomiereba didia,
radgan ruseTi flobs wiaRiseul
simdidreebs, xolo Cven ara, es aC-
venebs maT saxes da interesebs.
me kidev erTxel vacxa-deb, vinc saakaSvili xeli-suflebaSi moiyvana, vincmxari dauWira am reJimisgabatonebas, is aris sa-qarTvelos pirdapiri mt-eri.
ratom? imitom rom, rogorc ki
saakaSvils Tundac erTi saaTiT dae-
laparakebi, maSinve mixvdebi, rom es
kaci aris aranormaluri. xom gax-
sovT, kondoliza raisma Tqva, Cven
mxars vuWerdiT mis gaprezidenteba-
so. es ki niSnavs, rom sul ar ain-
teresebs, ra moxdeba aq. saqarTve-
loSi demokratia da misTanebi araa
maTTvis mTavari, es aris measexaris-
xovani. maTTvis mTavaria, rom hyavT
yurmoWrili mona, romelic nebismi-
er davalebas asrulebs.
wesiT, im sityvebisTvis, rac man
jondi baRaTurias uTxra, sakmarisi
iqneboda ucxoeTs saakaSvilisTvis
sruli blokada gamoecxadebina, mag-
ram ase ar xdeba, es risi niSanicaa,
naTelia _ is aris yvelafris Sems-
rulebeli, rasac moisurvebs aSS-i.
araa gamoricxuli, rom irans Se-
utios israelma da aSS-ma da rodis
dasWirdeba saqarTvelo maT, amas
uaxlesi periodi gadawyvets. marTa-
lia, obamam ki mouwoda israels,
rom ar daartyas irans, magram aSS-
i ver aitans iranis birTvuli Seia-
raRebis gaaZlierebas SemdgomSi.
axla is vTqvaT, raSi sWirdeba sa-
qarTvelos jarebis gagzavna avRaneT-
Si. Cvens qveyanas naklebad aintere-
sebs, magram aSS-i zedmetad dainte-
resebulia amiT. mas surs kanonieri
gaxados Tavisi qmedeba da rac SeiZ-
leba meti qveyana CaiTrios am uazro
xocva-JletaSi. saakaSvili rom gvim-
tkicebs, TiTqos avRaneTis misia aris
saSviliSvilo saqme da saqarTvelo
avRaneTSi ibrZvis terorizmis wina-
aRmdeg, iq Tvlian, rom saqarTvelo
iseTive okupantia, rogorc aSS-i. sa-
qarTvelo, romelic TviTon aris
okupirebuli da acxadebs, rom misi
teritoriebi dapyrobilia, TviTon
gamodis sxva qveynis dampyroblad.
_ rogorc Cans, saakaSvili dava-
lebebis iseTi kargi Semsrulebelia,
rom aSS-ii mas amjeradac ar gaime-
tebs da kvlav daexmareba darCes xe-
lisuflebaSi. ise, rogorc 2008
wels arCevnebis Sedegebis gamocxa-
debamde buSma miuloca gapreziden-
teba. albaT, axlac imedi aqvs da
amitomac apirebs lazikis mSeneblo-
baSi monawileobas, xelisuflebaSi
kvlav darCenas.
_ opoziciam saakaSvil-obamas
Sexvedris Semdeg ganacxada, rom mi-
Sa raRac kmayofili saxiT ar iyu-
reboda. etyoba, aSS-ma mas yuri
auwiao. magram mas Semdeg, rac miSa
amerikidan dabrunda, akeTebs iseT
gancxadebebs da ise moqmedebs, rom
ar rCeba STabeWdileba misTvis vin-
mes odnav gadakruli sityva eTqvas,
an kategoriulad moeTxovaT misi
wasvla.
_ kategoriulobis ufleba aqvT?
_ ra Tqma unda, 2003 wlis ar-
Cevnebamde beikeri ar iyo Camosuli
da ar uTxra SevardnaZes _ droa,
pensiaze waxvide da memuarebi we-
roo? saakaSvilisTvis msgavsi ara-
vis araferi ukadrebia. obamam rac
uTxra, es iyo qebaTa-qeba.
saakaSvili moswondabuSis administracias, mo-swons obamas administra-ciasac.
_ ese igi, saSveli araa?
_ amerikidan ra saSvels eliT,
ver gamigia. xom giTxraT saakaSvil-
mac gudiani kaci ar Camsvams gudaSi
da arsadac ar wamiyvans, amis imedi
nu geqnebaTo?!
_ arCevnebis gziT mis gadayenebas
ver movaxerxebT?
_ arCevnebis gziT misi Secvla
ver moxdeba. me Zalian mikvirs bato-
ni biZina ivaniSvilis, roca amas la-
xmamaRla vacxadeb:arCevnebis gziT am xelisuflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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parakobs, magram, etyoba, garemocva afiqrebi-
nebs ase, romelic, simarTle unda vTqva, saa-
kaSvilis ganayofebi arian.
roca ivaniSvili ambobs, rom arCevnebSi ga-
imarjvebs da moipovebs xmaTa or mesameds, ro-
gor apirebs amas? xelisuflebas udidesi re-
sursi aqvs _ municipaluri organizaciebidan,
araqarTveli mosaxleobisgan, ucxoeTSi
mcxovrebi qarTvelebi, am xalxs paata davi-
Taia da misi axali uwyeba xelmZRvanelobs.
kidev erTi ram SeuZlebelia ar aRiniSnos:
ivaniSvilis garemocvidan acxadeben., rom iqne-
ba sayovelTao amnistia da ar daisjeba wina
xelisuflebis damnaSaveebi. es mosaxleobaSi
imedgacruebas da nihilizms aZlierebs da ar-
CevnebSi xmebis mopovebis Sansebs amcirebs.
_ aba, ra unda gavakeToT?
_ kidev vimeoreb: arCevnebis gziT am xeli-
suflebis Secvla SeuZlebelia.
_ ucxoeTi zurgs Segvaqcevs Tu Cven ar-
Cevnebis gzas ugulebelvyofT.
_ ar unda mivaqcioT yuradReba, vin ras
ityvis. mTavaria, Cveni qveyana movawyoT ise,
rogorc CvenTvis iqneba ukeTesi. sxvaTa So-
ris, ase iyo gamsaxurdias dros. aravis ara-
visTvis ar miuqcevia yuradReba, gaakeTes is,
rac umravlesobas surda.
_ ruseTis prezidenti kvlav putini gaxda.
saakaSvilma savizo reJimis gamartivebis sa-
kiTxi dasva ramdenime dRis win. xom ar iyo
es raRacnairi winaTgrZnoba da survili, rom
axla saakaSvili putins miucocdes?
_ Tu vinme ebrZoda putins aSS-Si, maTi
survilis mixedviT ebrZoda, lanZRavda da
TaTxavda saakaSvili. misi yvela gamosvla am
paTosiT iyo gajerebuli.
is iniciativa, rac saakaSvilma gaaJRera,
pirdapir ruseTis xelisuflebis gasaSaveblad
iyo mimarTuli. marTalia, ruseTis sagareo
saqmeTa saministro mowonebiT Sexvda am wina-
dadebas, magram amaTgan sapasuxod miiRes
kvlav ultimatumi _ gaiyvanon jarebi da a.S.
momwons saakaSvili Tu ara, miuxedavad yve-
lafrisa, unda vTqva, rom es iyo dadebiTi na-
biji. saqme imaSia, rom saqarTvelos ar unda
gaewyvita diplomatiuri urTierTobebi ru-
seTTan, umjobesi iyo ruseTTan pirdapiri
diplomatiuri kontaqtebi yofiliyo. urTier-
Tobebi kuluarul doneze aris, magram ukeTe-
si iqneboda es kontaqtebi Ria da sajaro Tu
iqneboda.
is ambavi, rom axla ruseTma gaiyvanos ja-
rebi afxazeTidan da cxinvalis regionidan, es
aris iluzia. ruseTi Tavis gadafurTxebuls
ar alokavs da problemebi erTi xelis dakv-
riT ar gadawydeba.
iranda kalandaZe
saakaSvilma xelisuflebaSi
mosvlisTanave daiwyo dausaqmebel
adamianebze zrunva _ pirvel rig-
Si, dasaqmebis saagento gaauqma.
saqarTvelo msoflioSi erTader-
Ti qveyanaa, sadac `vardebis revo-
luciis~ Semdeg dasaqmebis saagen-
to aRar arsebobs. arada, mTels
msoflioSi miCneulia, rom siRa-
ribis daZlevis mTavari saSualeba
swored dasaqmebaa, rasac sxva al-
ternativa ar gaaCnia. CvenTan ki
yvelaferi piriqiT moxda, siRari-
bis dasaZlevad prezidentma dasaq-
mebis centrebi moSala da siRari-
bis daZlevis programiT qveyanaSi
am senis damarcxeba gadawyvita.
Tumca, siRaribis programiT mivi-
ReT is, rom umuSevarTa dasaqmeba
saerTod aRmoifxvra dRis wesri-
gidan.
axalgazrda `reformatorebis~
mosvlamde, saqarTveloSi dasaqme-
bis samsaxuris saSualebiT weli-
wadSi 5 aTasi adamiani saqmdebo-
da, gaicemoda kreditebic, rac
mcire mewarmeobis ganviTarebas
uwyobda xels. swored es miiCnia
saakaSvilis xelisuflebam arae-
feqturad da samagierod Ratake-
bis momravlebis programa Semogv-
Tavaza. dasaqmebis samsaxurebis
muSaoba araefeqturi iyoo _
brZana prezidentma da umal mili-
oni samuSao adgilis Seqmnis Ta-
obaze auwya mosaxleobas. mas mere
mravali weli gavida da dRes mi-
lioni samuSao adgilis nacvlad,
man milionze meti Rataki da am-
denive sazRvargareT, ucxo tome-
bisTvis Ramis qoTnebis mzidavi
qarTvelebi Seqmna. saakaSvils
msoflio bankis mxolod misTvis
sasargeblo monacemebis gamomzeu-
reba sCvevia da, bunebrivia mosax-
leobisTvis ar uTqvams ra weria
msoflio bankis erT-erT daskvna-
Si: ` umuSevroba da sakmarisad
kargad anazRaurebadi samsaxure-
bis nakleboba, im ZiriTad mizezs
warmoadgens, ris gamoc saqarTve-
loSi mcxovrebi ojaxebi siRari-
bes Tavs ver aRweven~. es daskvna
daaxloebiT 6 wlis win gakeTda,
mas Semdeg mdgomareoba katastro-
fulad gauaresda da, albaT Zne-
li misaxvedri ar iqneba ras SeiZ-
leba fiqrobdes msoflio banki
saqarTveloSi dRes arsebul si-
tuaciaze. swored ami-
tomaa, rom dRes sa-
qarTveloSi siRaribis
daZlevis programiT
miviReT is, rom mosax-
leobis saSualo fena
Raribad gadaiqca, xo-
lo Raribebi Ratakad.
paradoqsia, magram dR-
es qarTveli xalxi
Ratakad aRiarebas iT-
xovs da aba gabedos
socialuri dacvis sa-
agentom da uari uTx-
ras Rarib-Ratakis statusze(!)
qarTvelebs prezidentma saerTod
gadaaCvia muSaoba. anda vis endo-
meba muSaoba, roca prezidentma
xalxis dasasaqmeblad xan sam Tvi-
ani programa moigona da winasaar-
Cevnod dasaqmebul xalxs TveSi
200 lari gadauxada. televizii-
Tac gvaCvenes, rogor miiyvana pre-
zidentma `dasaqmebulebis~ erTi
avtobusi qarxanaSi, Tumca es mu-
Sebi iseve dasaqmdnen, rogorc,
dRes gaxsnil erT-erT saavadmyo-
foSi Sarval-kostumSi gamopran-
Wuli `pacienti~ mkurnalobda. ma-
Sin, mTavrobam Tavad aRiara, rom
200 lariani dasaqmeba efeqturi
ar iyo da igi gazafxuls ver mo-
iyvanda. amitom, maleve preziden-
ti axali iniciativiT, axali da-
pirebiT gamovida _ siRaribes Se-
vebrZolebi da 50 dReSi amogasun-
TqebTo, Tumca am, dapirebamac Ca-
iluris wyali dalia da amosunT-
qvas viRa Civis, Tu gadavxedavT,
rogor zrunavs prezidenti dau-
saqmebeli adamianebis jibeebze, Se-
iZleba male CasunTqvac fasianad
gveqces. umuSevrobis done araTu
ar Semcirebula, dasawyisSi mo-
gaxseneT, rom gaizarda kidec, da
amis paralelurad gaizarda tran-
sportis safasuri, gazis gadasa-
xadi, deni mieba nagavs da a.S. ra
qnan arCevnebic omia, oms ki didi
kuWi aqvs da iyideba yvelaferi
yvelaze, kanoniT Tu ukanonod.
mokled, uxvad darigebuli 50
dRiani programac _ gazrdili
pensiebi, dasaqmebuli mosaxleoba,
sxvadasxva saxis socialuri dax-
marebebi, kvlav dapirebad darCa.
50 dRiani proeqtidan realobamde
arcerTi nabiji ar gadadgmula.
maSindeli jandacvis ministrisgan
50 dRiani programis farglebSi
uamravi dagegmili iniciativa mo-
vismine, dRes yvela maTgani qa-
Raldze dagegmilad darCa.
amxela Sesavali imisTvis dam-
Wirda, rom mosaxleobisaTvis Se-
mexsenebina ra kargad, ra efeqtu-
rad axerxebs mTavroba milioni
samuSao adgilis Seqmnis, 50 dRi-
ani dasaqmebis programis, sam Tvi-
ani 200-200 lariani `samuSao ad-
gilebis~ da a.S. dagegmvas. dageg-
milis ganxorcieleba ki, rogorc
sCans maT gegmebSi ar Sedis.
axla 2012 samuSao adgilebze
zrunvis dawyebidan merve weliwa-
dia da amjerad prezidenti par-
lamentis tribunidan kvlav dageg-
mil gegmebze sasaubrod gamovida.
es weliwadi, man jandacvis xel-
misawvdomobis gadamwyvet da dama-
tebiTi samuSao adgilebis wlad
daasaxela. ki magram am wlebis
manZilze samuSao adgilebi saer-
Tod ar Seqmnila, Tu ra Tqma un-
da prezidenti sazRvargareT Ra-
mis qoTnebis mzidav qarTvelebis
dasaqmebas Tavis miRwevad ar miiC-
nevs, da aba, risi damatebiTi ad-
gilebi iqmneba, cota gaugebaria.
damatebiTi samuSao adgilebis
Seqmnis Sesaxeb gancxadeba rom ga-
vigone, damainteresa amjerad ras
gvTavazobda prezidenti da mouT-
menlad davelode mis axal pro-
eqts. amjerad, dasaqmebis axali
formula aseTia _ Turme ramdeni
milioni turistic Camova saqarT-
veloSi, prezidenti imden 15 aTas
adamians daasaqmebs. afiorac amas
hqvia Tu hqvia. ratom? _ axlave
mogaxsenebT, eqspertebis TqmiT,
dRes saqarTveloSi 800 aTasi ka-
cia dausaqmebeli. Tu elementa-
rul ariTmetikas moviSveliebT
gamodis, rom saqarTveloSi yvela
maTgani rom dasaqmdes 35 milioni
turisti unda miviRoT, rac war-
moudgeneli absurdia. ase, rom
prezidentma isev mogvatyua, am
`gadamwyvet~ welsac, rogorc
sCans iseve Seiqmneba samuSao ad-
gilebi, rogorc am rva wlis man-
Zilze iyo. Tumca, raoden gasakvi-
ric ar unda iyos, sazogadoeba ma-
inc ar iRleba prezidentis tyui-
lebis mosmeniT. mgoni dadga dro
yurebi gamovifxikoT, Tvalebi
farTod gavaxiloT da nu davelo-
debiT im 35 milion turists, ro-
melzec Turme Cveni dasaqmebis be-
dia Camokidebuli.
Tamar SveliZe
rodis daasaqmebs prezidenti mosaxleobas saqarTveloSi jer ar Semosuli 35 milioni turistis xarjze?!
8 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
laSa nacvliSvili:rodesac irina enuqiZe muxl-
modrekili elodeboda qarTu-
li sazogadoebis inertul na-
wils, gamodiT da daicaviT
Tqveni Svilebio, 2006 wlis
Semdeg saxelmwifos mier mora-
lurad Tu fizikurad dazara-
lebuli yvela adamiani aris
msxverpli sakuTari inertu-
lobisa. aq Zalian mniSvnelova-
nia, ras Cadis saxelmwifo, ro-
gor reagirebs is msgavs faqt-
ze, arsebobs Tu ara saxeli-
suflebo vertikalSi arajansa-
Ri, aramed racionaluri sawyi-
sebi. yvela qveyanaSi Cadis da-
naSauls policieli, magram
sistemis sijansaRis indikato-
ria ara policieli, aramed Ta-
vad sistema, romelic reagi-
rebs am danaSaulze da ganagdes
mas. Cven kargad viciT, ra mox-
da buta robaqiZis SemTxvevaSi.
imis gamo rom 23 noembers, am
sakralur dRes, ar Selaxuli-
yo policiis mundiris Rirseba
udanaSaulo adamianis sisxliT,
maT gaTxvares mTeli xelisuf-
leba. qimeriZis SemTxvevaSic
igive ganmeorda. Cven visac gar-
kveuli pasuxismgebloba gvaqvs
Cveni Svilebis winaSe, araTu
legitimuri ufleba gvaqvs xma
amoviRoT yovelive amis winaaR-
mdeg, aramed varT valdebulni
da dagvwyevlis Cveni STamomav-
loba Tu amaze gavCerdiT.
dRes, samwuxarod, saqarT-
velos xelisuflebaSi waxali-
sebulia araadamianoba, Tu Cven,
sazogadoebas gvaqvs TviTgadar-
Cenis fiziologiuri instinq-
ti, maSin ar unda gavCerdeT,
radgan es ambavi ar damTavrde-
ba. aRebulia yvelaze mTavari
mijna, xelisuflebam daiwyo
xalxis xocva. miuxedavad oja-
xis poziciisa, Cven ar unda
gavCumdeT. arc erTi Jurnalis-
ti, moqalaqe, sazogado Tu po-
litikuri moRvawe ar unda mo-
eqces im stigmis qveS, rom
TiTqos viRac politikur di-
videndebs eZebs sxvis ubedure-
baze. sisxlze ar arsebobs
araviTari dividendebi, sisxl-
ze arsebobs mxolod danaSau-
li da pasuxismgebloba; da pa-
suxismgebloba ormxrivi - sis-
xlze pasuxismgebeli aris xe-
lisufleba, magram asjer me-
tad pasuxismgebelia sazogado-
eba, romelic dauSvebs dausje-
lobas.
yvela mmarTveli, romlic
cdilobs raRaciT daasabuTos
Tavisi Seucvleloba, is Zali-
an cudi azrisaa sakuTar ersa
da gundze. radgan arsebobs sa-
zogadoebriv-politikuri higi-
ena: aranairi mniSvneloba ara
aqvs kosmetologiur Carevebs
Tu adamiani sacvals ar icv-
lis. sazogadoebas Tu ar aqvs
xelisuflebis cvalebadobis
meqanizmi, romlic aris sijan-
saRis, higienis mTavari atribu-
ti, es Zalian didi problemaa.
xelisufleba umtkivneulod
icvleba maSin Tu sazogadoe-
ba Tavisufalia. Tu xelisuf-
leba warmovidgenT rogorc
mesias, romelmac unda gadag-
varCinos da dagvapuros, ma-
Sin misi gamocvla Zalian
gagviZneldeba.
putinis xelisuflebaSi
darCena aris mocemuloba,
romelsac Cven ver SevcvliT.
moklevadian perspeqtivaSi,
saakaSvilisa da nacmoZraobi-
saTvis es faqti aris erT-er-
Ti saukeTeso gamosavali,
eleqtoratisaTvis sakuTari
arsebobis dasasabuTeblad.
radgan qarTul cnobierebaSi
putini aris mtris idealuri
saxe da misi gamoZerwva aRar
sWirdebaT. Tumca grZelvadian
perspeqtivaSi putinma Tavad
unda daasabuTos Tavisi arse-
bobac. anu man Tavisi ritori-
kuli frazebi multieTnikuri
imperiuli saxelmwifos Sesa-
xeb qmedebiT unda daasabuTos,
rac Zalian gaWirdeba.
gubaz sanikiZe: rac See-xeba saxelisuflebo cvlile-
bebze sagareo faqtorebs, ker-
Zod aSS-iranis samxedro ope-
raciebis gavlenas, iranis kri-
zisi arCevmebamde iqneba,
daiwyeba gazafxulze da
zafxuli iqneba Zalian
mZime. amitom saparlamen-
to arCevnebamde iq raRa-
ceebi gairkveva. amis ram-
denime varianti arsebobs.
aq gadamwyvet rols Tama-
Sobs Tu rogor moiqceva
irani. aq marto amerikis
interesebi rom iyos, uf-
ro gaamartivebda saqmes.
aq CarTulia israelis
usafrTxoebis interesebi,
romelsac Cvengan gansxva-
vebiT prevenciis maRali
xarisxi aqvs. garda israe-
lisa, aq Zalian bevri geopoli-
tikuri, religiuri da kultu-
ruli kvanZia Tavmoyrili. igu-
lisxmeba axlo aRmosavleTis
sakiTxi da ruseTis CarTulo-
ba. irani uZvelesi imperiuli
saxlmwifoa, udidesi tradici-
ebis mqone da maTac kargad es-
miT, rom Tu konfrontacia wa-
vida, Sedegebi umZimesi iqneba.
ra Tqma unda, amerika Seec-
deba safrTxeebis minimalizaci-
as da am niadagze mas eqneba ru-
seTTan kontaqti, Tumca Cven
mainc ar viciT, ruseTi ra ga-
dawyvetilebas miiRebs. iranis
sakiTxe calke, konteqstidan
amogdebuli ar ganixileba
TviT ruseTisTvisac. irani
aris erTi didi procesis nawi-
li, romelsac hqvia ruseTis
gamosvla axlo aRmosavleTi-
dan. rigSi dgas siria, rome-
lic ruseTis sayrdeni qveyanaa.
gamodis informaciebi, rom sam-
xedro specialistebi Caiyvanes
iq rusebma, radgan sakmaod de-
moralizebulia samTavrobo Za-
lebi siriaSi da maT gadawyo-
baze moqmedeben. aseve gaCnda in-
formacia, rom dasavleTis
qveynebidan iq arian Sesuli
samxedro specialistebi opo-
ziciis dasaxmareblad. ase rom
irans, rogorc calke aRebul
problemas, ver ganvixilavT.
miT ufro, rom iran-erayis
omis dro siria iyo er-
TaderTi arabuli sa-
xelmwifo, romelic
irans uWerda mxars.
ruseTs xelSekrulebis
Tanaxmad eZleva ufleba
CrdiloeT irani daika-
vos da iq samxedro Zale-
bi Seiyvanos. aq isev
Cndeba varaudi, ramdenad
gabedavs ruseTi konfrota-
ciaze wasvlas. cudi magaliTi
CvenTvis aris 2008 weli, ro-
ca ruseTma gabeda da wavida
konfrotaciaze, daikava gori,
rac ar iyo SemTxveviTi ambavi.
amiT rusebma aCvenes mTel
msoflios, rom maT SeuZliaT
Zalian seriozuli dartyma mi-
ayenon energetikul sakomunika-
cio saSualebebs - gazsadens,
navTobsadens da a.S.
ase rom, rogor moiqceva
ruseTi, Zalian Zneli saTqme-
lia. ras daTmobs da ras mo-
iTxovs am daTmobis sanacvlod!
ra Tqma unda, amerikelebi Se-
ecdebian winaswar yvelaferi
gaarkvion rusebTan, magram ra
nabijs gadadgams ruseTi, wi-
naswar veravin gaTvlis, swo-
red amazea damyarebuli puti-
nis sagareo politika. ruse-
TisTvis iranis marcxi da izo-
lacia Zalian mZimea. rusul
politikur elitaSi gabatone-
bulia azri, rom iranis Semdeg
aucileblad dageba ruseTis
jeri; ara samxedro operacie-
biT, aramed ekonomikuri mo-
xuTviT. ruseTs aqvs sakmao
berketebi, iTamaSos msoflio
arenaze - es aris energetiku-
li wyaroebi. aseve Zalian rTu-
li gasaTvlelia, rogor moiq-
ceva ruseTi saqarTvelosTan
mimarTebaSi, radgan Cven dabal
Robed viTvlebiT. arsebobs
amis subieqturi mizezebi, rad-
gan isini Tvlian, rom saqarT-
velo unda gadaylapon auci-
leblad. da amas xels uwyobs
Cveni susti xelisufleba. ru-
seTi SeiZleba sxva mizezebiT
SemoiWras saqarTveloSi, aq
igulisxmeba konfliqtis pro-
vocireba samxreT oseTSi, rad-
gan afxazebi gacilebiT damou-
kidebel politikas atareben,
vidre samxreT osebi. aris imis
saSiSroebac, rom qveynis Sig-
niT destabilizaciis provoci-
reba moxdes xelisuflebis mi-
er. radgan xelisufleba Tu
Seatyobs, rom arCevnebs agebs,
yvelaferze wava. rac ar unda
yoCaRad eWiros Tavi saakaS-
vils, Tumca ufro komikuri
iyo misi polemika jondi baRa-
TuriasTan, rac amtkicebs, rom
nacmoZraoba Zalian aradamaje-
reblad grZnobs Tavs. da kar-
gad viciT, maTi saxiT rogor
adamianebTan gvaqvs saqme. eseni
yvelaferze wamsvlelebi, qvey-
nis daqcevaze wamsvelebi arian.
amitom es amZimebs Cvens mdgo-
mareobas. Cven rom pasuxismgeb-
lobis mqone xelisufleba
gvyavdes, gacilebiT naklebi
problemebi da ufro mwyobri
poziciebi gveqneboda igive ru-
sebTan. Tumca saeqsperto wre-
ebSic gaCnda mosazrebebi, rom,
araa gamoricxuli, rusebs
kurkuri dauwyos saakaSvilma,
Tu ukve dawyebuli ara aqvs.
yovel SemTxvevaSi, putinTan
urTierTobebis mogvarebis
mcdeloba ramdenjerme hqonda.
ase rom, am kacma SeiZleba ub-
ralod, gayidos qveyana.
ara mgonia, saakaSvilma da-
savleTis winaSe Tavisi
Seucvlelobis dasadas-
tureblad gadadgas es na-
biji (saubaria vizebis ga-
uqmebaze), radgan saakaS-
vils da mTel nacmoZrao-
bas dakarguli aqvs rea-
lizmis grZnoba; naciona-
luri arxebic ki gadmos-
cemda saakaSvilis uzrde-
lobas. anu rogor upasu-
xa man jondi baRaTurias
jer gaqceviT, mere dabru-
nebiT da uzrdelobebiT;
qveynis prezidenti ki ara,
rigiTi adamiani ar iqceva
ase. man daadastura erTi
ram, mas Zalian unda da-
savleTs da qveynis mosaxleo-
bas daanaxos, rom is aris sta-
biluribis garantia saqarTve-
loSi da kavkasiis regionSi.
magram Tavisi qceviT yvelas aC-
vena, rom is aris destabiliza-
ciis mTavari faqtori. arc ad-
re gamoirCeoda qceviT, magram
axla saerTod gaWenebuli iyo.
yvelaze cudi diagnozi, rac
SeiZleba politikoss daesvas,
aris araprognozirebadi poli-
tikosis statusi. rac saakaS-
vilis SemTxvevaSi progresire-
badi diagnozia. jondi baRaTu-
rias rom ase pasuxob, Sen war-
moidgine, rogor moiqcevi kri-
zisis dros rusebTan. miT uf-
ro rom Cvenc da sazRvargare-
Tac nanaxi gvaqvs, rogor iqce-
va es xelisufleba krizisis
dros - garbis da imaleba. es
meore seria iyo, maSin rusuli
aviaciis eSinoda, axla jondi-
si eSinia. gaqceva ar aris ada-
mianis Tviseba, ase xifaTs ga-
urbis mxolod cxoveli. saa-
kaSvilma daadastura, rom is
aris Zalian susti, aramdgradi
da aravin ar icis, rogor mo-
iqceva garkveul situaciaSi.
Tumca opozicia ufro susti
da araorganizebuli aRmovCn-
diT mTeli es wlebi. saakaSvi-
li da misi xelisufleba,
igive vano gaRletili
(Tumca vanos sxva Seu-
racxyofebic autania
misasgan gineba da Wiqe-
bis srola da amasac
aitans) aRar aris im
stadiaSi, rogorc `varde-
bis revoluciis~ Semdeg.
axla sxva viTarebaa, igive
demokratiuli revoluciis
proeqti unda damTavrdes;
marTalia, saakaSvili agrZe-
lebs revolucias, mara ase fi-
del kastroc agrZelebs da re-
volucia swored maSin aris
ganwiruli wagebisTvis, roca
igi grZeldeba. saakaSvili Za-
lian mZime mdgomareobaSia. im
ybadaRebul gamosvlaSi man ar
Tqva rom wasvlas apirebs, mag-
ram arc is uTqvams, rom rCeba.
man rom Tqvas, rom premieri ar
iqneba, nacmoZraoba imave saRa-
mos gaqreba da gadneba; es misi
piradi usafrTxoebis sakiTxic
aris, ra eSvelebaT girgvlia-
nis mkvlelebs?! ra eSveleba
sisxliani angariSsworebis mo-
nawileebs, qveynis mZarcvele-
bs?! ra eSveleba wagebul oms
da ekonomikur siduxWires?!
TiTqmis ori milioni Ratakia
qveyanaSi. TviTon ki gaezarda
Semosvlebi, magram ise ara, ro-
gorc Tqva, ra moxda aseTi,
rom saakaSvilebis ojaxis yve-
la wevrs 2003 wlis mere aR-
moaCnda biznesis niWi. martiva-
daa yvelaferi - Zarcvaven qve-
yanas. jondis tyuili ki ar
uTqvams.
rac Seexeba parlamentis
mandaturiT damuqrebas. manda-
turi prezidents ar emorCile-
ba kanoniT. Tu saWiro gaxda,
prezidents unda mokidos qeCo-
Si xeli da gaiyvanos darbazi-
dan. asea es, radgan aRmasrule-
beli xelisuflebis meTaurs
ara aqvs ufrosobis ufleba sa-
kanonmdeblo xelisuflebaze.
wesiT, roca es Tqva preziden-
tma, parlamentis Tavmjdomares
unda moewodebina mandaturebi-
saTvis da gaeTriaT darbazidan.
aris kuluaruli informacia,
rom jondisgan gaqceul saa-
kaSvils uTxres, aSS-s elCi
zis darbazSi da ar SeiZleba
gaqcevao, amitomac dabrunda
igi. sxvaTa Soris, Zalian daT-
rgunuli saxe hqonda aSS-s
elCs. amerikelebi, saerTod, me-
tad realisturad afaseben si-
tuacias.
ras izams saakaSvili CvenT-
vis ar unda iyos mTavari Se-
kiTxva da problema, ras vizamT
Cven, visac es ar mogvwons, esaa
sakiTxavi. me mgonia, rom ufro
mets ar moswons saakaSvili.
Tan is martoa darCenili nac-
moZraobaSi, visac xalxTan Sex-
vedra SeuZlia.
Cveni koaliciis warmatebis
safuZveli aris biZina ivaniSvi-
lis pirovneba plus Zlieri
organizacia. Zalian intesiuri
muSaoba midis organizaciuli
sakiTxebis mosagvareblad, rac
ramdenime kviraSi dasruldeba.
nacmoZaraoba Zalian organize-
buli Zalaa, mas aseve organi-
zebuli ZaliT unda daupiris-
pirde. Cveni koalicia plius
Zlieri organizaciebi _ es
aris gamarjvebis garantia.
9#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
28 Tebervali, rogorc Ta-
riRi, arafriTaa mniSvnelova-
ni, Tebervlis Cveulebrivi
dRe aris, magram wlevandeli
28 Tebervali mcired, magram
mainc gamorCeuli iyo. parla-
metis deputatebma: batonebma
gia cagareiSvilma da jondi
baRaTuriam gaiTvaliswines
prezident saakaSvilis gasuli
wlis gamowveva `am darbazSi
vinme gamova da ityvis, rom
elituri korufcia arsebob-
so?~ da maSin Tu deputatma
CaxvaZem `Caisvara~, amaT gadmo-
ulages. kidev is iyo mniSvne-
lovani, rom prezidentma Tai-
guli miarTva deputat Ciora
TaqTaqiSvils da Tan gadakoc-
na. danarCeni, iseTive erTfe-
rovani, arafrismTqmeli da
falsificirebuli iyo, ro-
gorc yovelTvis.
es gogo vin aris, ratom
misca miSam yvavilebio? _ ver
icno Ciora TaqTaqiSvili mayu-
rebelma.
oo, maT ar ician, rom kom-
blesi ar iyos, es is gogoa,
romelic `komblebsa Tlis,
WerSi awyobs da vinc Sexvde-
ba, TavSi Cascxobs,~ _ Ciora
yofili `kmarelia.~ hoda, 28
Tebervals iubilari iyo Cio-
ra da tribunisken mimavalma
qalTampyrobelma prezidentma
gzad jentlmenuri Jesti `Caa-
tara~. iubilari romc ar yo-
filiyo, `kmaras~ imxela
wvlili aqvs Setanili saakaS-
vilisa da zogadad, uCinoTa
aRzevebaSi, `kmaras~ memorials
rom ar xsnian velosipedis
`Zeglis~ gverdze, es ufro
unda ukvirdes xalxs.
erTmaneTs waewyo kikviZis
baRSi aqciis monawileTa daka-
veba da parlamentSi Cioras
`dafaseba~, Torem viRas ax-
sovda `vardebis revoluciam-
deli~ ambebi. saqme imaSi gax-
lavT, rom `qarTuli ocnebis~
aqtivistebis dakavebas `kmare-
li~ goga oniani xelmZRvane-
lobda _ laSa CxartiSvilis
yofili TanamebrZoli `kma-
ras~ rigebSi. (ar undoda
`kmaras~ egidiT laSas gare-
mos dacvis ministroba da ra
onianis bralia, Tu samsaxu-
rebrivi movaleobis Sesrule-
bisas masac staca xeli da Se-
ipyro?)
`deda-kmarelis~ _ Tea
TuTberiZis angariSiT, `kmara-
Si~ 3500 wevri iyo, romelTa-
gan, araerTi, dRemde sul `kma-
ra~-`kmaras~ aZaxebinebs mTel
saqarTvelos...
principSi, `ideurad kmare-
lebi~ didian _ patarianad
ramdenni iyvnen, zustad, al-
baT, mxolod TviTon ician,
radgan, uproblemod SeiZleba
erTmaneTTan Serwyma `Tavisuf-
lebis institutisa~ da `kma-
rasi~. maT Soris asakobrivi
sxvaoba iyo mxolod, isic ar-
cTu TvalSisacemi. `kmaras~ aq-
tiurobis zeobisas, simarTle
rom iTqvas, `patarebSi~ Tea
TuTberiZe iyo orTlqmavali,
gamwevi Zala, magram xom iyo
Semadgenlobac, _ hoda, vinc
`naRdi kmareli~ iyo, arc ar-
sad wasula, ager arian bato-
no!
sulo da gulo, Tavdacvis
ministri baCo axalaia; Tavdac-
vis saministros Sesyidvebis
departamentis ufrosi revaz
WarbaZe; Sinagan saqmeTa sami-
nistros administraciis uf-
rosi SoTa xizaniSvili; imere-
Tis gubernatori laSa maqaca-
ria; gldani-naZaladevis poli-
ciis ufrosi goga oniani; par-
lamentis sagareo urTierToba-
Ta komitetis Tavmjdomare aka-
ki minaSvili; misi moadgile
giorgi kandelaki da rom ar
dagvaviwydes, an ar gamogvrCes
_ Ciora TaqTaqiSvili; aseve
maTi `moZRvari~, `kmaras~ ko-
ordinatori gigi ugulava da
`kmaras goni~ giga bokeria. es
is `kmarelebia~, romlebic
dRes Tanamdebobebze arian, To-
rem 3500 adamianidan es erTi
muWa `samarTlianobis mebai-
raxtrebi~ xom ar darCebodnen
mxolod...
`deda-kmarelma~ Tqva, Tanam-
deboba ar mindoda, raRacebze
dumili momiwevda da imitomo.
hoda, amitom aris `mokrZale-
bulad sadRac mimjdari~, To-
rem ra problema iyo.
ager, patara Cioras ma-
galiTs SexedeT da yvela-
feri naTeli gaxdeba. `er-
Tiani nacionaluri moZra-
oba _ gamarjvebuli saqar-
TvelosTvis~ partiuli
siiT, patara kmareli Cio-
ra, didi parlamentari Ci-
ora gaxda.
1981 wels dabadebuli
daviT TaqTaqiSvilis asu-
li 1999 wels, anu jer
pirze rZeSeuSrobeli 18
wlis gogona, sakonstitu-
cio sasamarTloSi Tavmj-
domaris TanaSemwe iyo.
aravin Semomedavos, sazo-
gadoebriv sawyisebze iyoo
_ faqti win devs, ra sawyiseb-
ze iyo.
2003 wels safrangeTis sa-
elCoSi ataSes TanaSemwe gaxl-
daT. arc axla Semomedavos vin-
me, ataSis TanaSemweoba ra wa-
mosayvedrebelia, jer TviTon
ataSeoba ra aris, dabali dip-
lomatiuri rangia sagareo saq-
meTa saministros uwyebaSio _
xom faqtia, rom mniSvnelovania.
maSin isic vTqvaT, rom
2003 wlidan 2004 wlamde,
erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi, pata-
ra `kmareli~, quTaiseli Cio-
ra, iusticiis saministroSi,
saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis
departamentis mrCevelic iyo,
saqarTvelos teqnikur univer-
sitetSi miwveuli doqtoric,
saqarTvelos ganaTlebisa da
mecnierebis saministroSi mi-
nistris mrCevelica (vai, im
ganaTlebis ministrs, 23 wlis
Cioras `sarCevi~ rom yofila
da `ui~ Cvens Tavs!) da iuri-
diuli departamentis ufro-
sic da al. diumas saxelobis
centris pedagogic.
1999 wels 18 wlisam sa-
konstitucio sasamarTlos
Tavmjdomaris TanaSemweobidan
rom daiwyo, 20 wlisa fond
`evraziis~ proeqtis iuristic
gaxldaT da gzad `kmaras~ gah-
kioda _ ai, figaro! yvelafe-
ri, misi namsaxureobebi rom
SevajamoT, ra SeZleba da gaqa-
neba hqonia am patara gogos,
momcro Taiguli ki ara, wi-
TellentSebmuli, dafnis
gvirgvini Tu ara, yvavilovani
gvirgvini mainc ekuTvnis...
dro gadioda, amasobaSi
gaizarda Ciora da 2008
wels miwveuli leqtoric
gaxda Tbilisis saxelmwifo
universitetSi da saqarTve-
los me-7 mowvevis parla-
mentis wevric. Tbilisis sa-
xelmwifo universitetis
uZlieresi goni sanagveze
moisroles da aTasgvari
leqtor-doqtorebi miiwvi-
es patara gogo-biWebis sa-
xiT, _ netav, ra hqvia (ara-
qarTuli demokratiis gan-
martebiT) amgvar qmedebas
axalgazrda TaobebisTvis
codnis gadacemis kuTxiT?
netav, vin da ra aswavla
aseTi Tbilisis ivane javaxiS-
vilis saxelobis universitet-
sa da universitet `parizi-
VIII-Si~ patara Cioras?
akaki minaSvilic Cioras
kbilaa, masaviT leqtorad iw-
veven umaRles saswavleblebSi,
magram CiorasTan ras miva misi
SromiTi biografia, an giorgi
kandelakisa, maradiuli moad-
gilisa...
roca `kmaras~ Senobebis
fasadebisa da asfaltis saRe-
bavebiT moTxupvnis gamo akaveb-
dnen an wesrigisken mouwodeb-
dnen samarTaldamcvelebi, es
imis maCvenebeli iyo, ra reJim-
Sic vcxovrobdiT; rom poli-
cia politikuri xelmZRvane-
lobisa da SevardnaZis inst-
rumenti iyo, romelic iseT
rameebs sCadoda, rac pinoCet-
sa da fidel kastrosac ar Ca-
udeniaT.
`kmarelobaSi~ marTla
iRebdnen 500-500 lars Tu
ara, amas aRar aqvs mniSvnelo-
ba, sakiTxavi isaa mxolod, is
`kmara usamarTlobis~ aqtivis-
tebi axla ramden-ramdens iRe-
ben iseTs, rom `kmaras~ yviri-
lis da weris ki ara, wamoknav-
lebis survilic aRar aqvT?
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kontrolis palata
biZina ivaniSvilis mier
daarsebuli sazogadoeb-
rivi moZraobis, “qarTu-
li ocnebis” saCivars,
romliTac es ukanakne-
li finansuri monito-
ringis subieqtad dafiqsirebas aprotestebs,
xval ganixilavs.
rogorc guSin gamarTul preskonferenciaze
ivaniSvilis iuridiuli jgufis warmomadgenelma
zaqaria qucnaSvilma ganacxada, sazogadoebrivi
moZraoba “qarTuli ocneba” Tavs politikur su-
bieqtad ar miiCnevs.
qucnaSvilis TqmiT, saCivris ganxilva kont-
rolis palataSi 17:00 saaTze gaimarTeba, dasw-
reba Jurnalistebsac SeuZliaT.
`medianiusi~
aqa ambavi Citi Ciorasi da kidev sxva Citunebisa...
Ciora parlamentari
10 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
arCevnebis moaxloebasTan
erTad, saqarTvelos xelisuf-
leba sul ufro iWreba da amJa-
vebuli rZesaviT iseT mware-mwa-
re saqmeebs akeTebs, rom mraval-
nacad sazogadoebas calybad ga-
Rimebuls tovebs. ise, asaWre-
lad namdvilad aqvT saqme, rad-
gan amaT namoqmedar Savbnel saq-
meebs viRac keTili Zia kanonis
Sesabamisad asworebs. unda viva-
raudoT, rom is Zia xelisuf-
lebis patroni, dasavleli sa-
zogadoebaa da yurs maSin uwevs,
roca Zalian uberavs da kanoni-
erebas fexqveS Telavs.
erTiT nuli
`qarTus~ sasargeblod
daviwyoT imiT, rac bolo
dros yvelaze xmaurian sakiTxad
iqca, rogorc sabanko sferoSi,
ise qarTul politikur sivrce-
Si. saqarTvelos mTavrobam mou-
lodnelad uari Tqva im sakanon-
mdeblo cvlilebaze, romlis
Tanaxmadac pirveladi ipoTeka-
ris ufleba biujets eZleoda.
yvelasaTvis cnobilia, rom es
cvlileba gaTvlili iyo `qarTu
bankis~ dasazaraleblad. xeli-
suflebam erTgvarad miaRwia ki-
dec mizans. bevri msxvili kre-
ditori, visac bankSi Cadebuli
hqonda ramdenimemilioniani qo-
neba, iZulebuli gaxda, es aqti-
vebi gaeyida, raTa gaestumrebina
biujetis davalianeba, romelic
aravin icis, rodis da ra piro-
bebSi warmoiSva. samagierod,
banki darCa garantiebis gareSe,
anu msesxebeli kredits daabru-
nebda Tu ara, mxolod mis ke-
Til nebaze iyo damokidebuli.
cnobilia isic, rom msgavsi
problema mxolod `qarTus~
klientebs gauCndaT da arc erT
sxva banks.
bankis generalurma direq-
torma oficialurad mimarTa sa-
erTaSoriso safinanso organi-
zaciebs da saqarTvelos mTavro-
bis ukanono gadawyvetilebis sa-
kiTxis Seswavla sTxova. msof-
lio bankma es problema safuZv-
lianad gamoikvlia da xelisuf-
lebas misi anulireba mosTxova.
mogexsenebaT, yvela saerTaSori-
so organizacia saakaSvilis uf-
rosia da maTi sityva kanonia.
ase moxda amjeradac. mTavrobam
operatiulad Seasrula moTxov-
na da pirveladi ipoTekaris uf-
lebis iniciativaze uari Tqva.
marTalia, bankebis asociaci-
is prezidenti acxadebs, rom ar
aris swori mosazreba, TiTqos
mTavrobam es gadawyvetileba
mxolod ucxour finansur ins-
titutebTan konsultaciebis
Sedegad miiRoo, magram Cven amas
nu davijerebT. es kaci ori
Tvis win aseve warmatebiT amt-
kicebda, rom sakanonmdeblo
cvlileba aravis miayenebda zi-
ans da igi ar iyo mimarTuli
mxolod erTi bankis winaaRmdeg.
zurab gvasalia amtkicebs, rom
amave dros biznesTan seriozu-
li konsultaciebi mimdinareob-
da: _
cota xnis win Sex-vedra Sedga baTumSi,romelsac premier-mi-nistri, mTavrobis wev-rebi da biznesis far-To speqtri eswrebo-da. araerTi Sexvedraiyo bankebis asociaci-asa da biznesis warmo-madgenlebTan da yove-live amis niadagze,biznesis da aqedan ga-momdinare, qveynis eko-nomikis sasargeblodmTavrobam absolutu-rad swori gadawyve-tileba miiRo.
uh, mZime, anu mJave SemTxve-
vaa. amaze ityvian, kum fexi ga-
moyo, mec naxirnaxiro. saiTac
dauberavs xelisuflebis survi-
lebi, gvasaliac iqiT miefareba,
emand, nacionalebis miznebs, anu
Cems keTildReobas araferi dae-
muqroso. mere es eqsperti da
profesionali imis mtkicebas
mohyveba, rom arasasurveli da
xSirad araswori interpretaci-
ebi, rac am cvlilebas mohyva,
rasakvirvelia, imoqmedebda ga-
remoze da ara marto sainvesti-
cioze, Tavad biznessac Seuqmni-
da problemebs. calsaxad imis
Tqma, rom am cvlilebis moqmede-
bis periodSi mxolod erTi ban-
ki dazaralda, arasworia. cvli-
leba mTeli sabanko seqtorisaT-
vis gatarda da ratom xdeba aq-
centireba erT bankze, gaurkve-
velia.
ra aris garkveuli gvasali-
asTvis, mis sindisze iyos. mTa-
varia, rom xelisuflebam ukan
waiRo Tavisi gadawyvetileba da
pirvandeli saxiT brundeba is
Canaweri, romelic sagadasaxado
kodeqsSi arsebobda. ase rom,
erTiT nuli `qarTus~ sasargeb-
lod. xelisufleba iZulebulia,
kidev erT gaxmaurebul sakanon-
mdeblo cvlilebaze Tqvas uari,
Tumca amaze Semdeg nomerSi vi-
saubrebT, roca sakiTxi srulad
gadawydeba.
fici mwams,
bolo makvirvebs
prezidenti rom yoveldRe
ruseTumeebs eZaxis yvelas, vi-
sac misi Citirekia moqmedebebi
ar moswons, nacnobi ambavia. bo-
lo dros, saakaSvils parlamen-
tis Tavmjdomarec daemata da
magaliTad, guSin sul ruseTis
mosyidulebi eZaxa opoziciasa
da mis mxardamWerebs. vidre ga-
varkvevT, vin ufro didi ruse-
Tumea, erT saintereso informa-
cias SemogTavazebT.
energetikisa da bunebrivi
resursebis saministros „buneb-
rivi resursebis saagentom~
bolnisisa da dmanisis municipa-
litetebSi sasargeblo wiaRise-
ulis (feradi, keTilSobili,
iSviaTi metalebi da bariti)
Seswavla-mopovebis licenzia
auqcionze gayida. licenziis
sawyisi Rirebuleba 110 milion
lars Seadgenda. auqcionSi
ucxouri kapitaliT dafuZnebu-
li kompania „maining invesTmenT-
si“ monawileobda, romelmac
auqcionze gamotanili 27-wlia-
ni licenzia 110,5 milion la-
rad SeiZina. licenzia 2014
wlis 15 aprilidan amoqmeddeba.
dReisaTvis aRniSnul sabadoeb-
ze sasargeblo wiaRiseuliT
sargeblobis uflebas kompania
„madneuli“ flobs. auqcionis
pirobebis Tanaxmad, investori
valdebulia, bolnisSi, madneu-
lis sabadoze arsebuli marage-
bi licenziis amoqmedebidan 24
Tvis vadaSi daiTvalos, xolo
saydrisis sabadoze _ 48 Tvis
ganmavlobaSi.
aqve davamatebT, rom `madne-
uli~ parlamentar koba nayofi-
as sakuTrebaa, romelmac swo-
red ruseTSi naSovni fuliT
SeiZina qoneba. amxela simdidres
marto viRac nayofias rom ara-
vin dauTmobda, faqtia. masTan
erTad wils inawileben ruseTis
sxva moqalaqeebic, sxvaTa So-
ris, uSiSroebis samsaxuris ma-
RalCinosnebi. SarSan wlis mi-
wuruls, xelisuflebam gadawy-
vita, rom ormocamde licenzia,
romelsac `madneuli~ flobs,
qmnis monopolias am sferoSi da
amitom kompanias ori licenzia
daaTmobines. erTi SarSan gaiyi-
da, meore ki _ wina kviras.
licenziis gayidvis faqts
exmaureba salome zurabiSvili,
romelic amtkicebs, rom myidve-
li kompaniis damfuZnebelic ru-
seTis moqalaqea da saqarTvelos
xelisufleba agrZelebs Zvel
politikas, sasargeblo wiaRise-
ulisa da samrewvelo obieqte-
bis ruseTisaTvis gadacemas:
_ samwuxarod,ufro da ufro na-Teli xdeba saa-kaSvilis Crdil-oeTisken orien-tacia. terito-riebis gadacemaSefuTuli omiT,kodoris da axal-goris usityvodCabareba. mamiso-nisze sazRvrisaqeT gadmowevaramdenime kilo-metriT. sworedim dros, rocaoseTidan preten-ziebs acxadeben
`TavianT~ miwebsa dasaxlebze saqarTve-los teritoriaze, amdros.... uvizo reJimisSemoReba!!!!! da kidev ....Telasis, engurhesisda bevri sxva magali-Tebis Semdgom, ruse-
bisTvis bolnisis damadneulis oqros daspilenZis sabadoebisCabarebam naTeli mo-fina saakaSvilis ganZ-raxvas: konpanian `mai-ning investmentma~ mii-Ro 27 wliT licne-zia!!!!! kompania ekuTv-nis viRac litvis moqa-laqes, mgram reziden-tia ruseTis da cxov-robs peterburgSi!!!!!!es kompania daregist-rirda saqarTveloSiama wlis 13 Tebervals(!!!!), auqcioni ki Catar-da 29 Tebervals. amazeaSkara Cabareba re-sursebis da terito-riebis ra unda iyos????meti ra gaakeTos saa-kaSvilma, rom dagvar-wmunos, vin warmoad-gens ruseTis intere-sebs saqarTveloSi?vinaa ruseTume?
ritorikuli kiTxvebia, Tu
faqtebs CavuRrmavdebiT. saakaS-
vilma bolo dros kargad gaiTa-
visa erTi qarTuli andaza, Cemi
Sen giTxari, guli mogikali. ra
mamaZaRlobasac gaakeTebs, mere
dgas da xels sxvisken iSvers,
magaTi gakeTebuli iqnebao. mar-
to ambobs ki ara, Svreba kidec,
radgan Tu garedan romelime
patronma ar daucacxana, ise ma-
gis gamCerebeli SigniT aravinaa.
am qveyanaSi bevri
da ufaso marto bolia
saavadmyofoebis gaxsnis re-
JimSi myofi prezidenti, para-
lelurad iseT tempSi lapara-
kobs, rom Znelia gaarkvio, ra
aris simarTle da ra xalxuri
zRapari. parlamentSi gamosvlis
da gaqcevis Semdeg igi yovel-
dRiurad amtkicebs, rom misi
Semosavlebi mxolod imitom ga-
izarda, rom qveyana mdidrdeba,
Semosavlebi izrdeba da Sesaba-
misad, cxovrebis donec maRla
iwevs. mogexsenebaT, prezidentis
kveris damkvrelia statistikis
samsaxuri, romelic cdilobs,
miSas sizmrebi statistikuri
maCveneblebiT gaamyaros.
magaliTad, saqstatis infor-
maciiT, 2011 wlis meoTxe kvar-
talSi sawarmoebSi dasaqmebul-
Ta mTlianma raodenobam 379.2
aTasi kaci Seadgina, rac wina
wlis analogiur maCvenebelTan
SedarebiT, 3.55%-iT gazrdilia.
dasaqmebulTa mTliani raodenoba
sawarmos zomis mixedviT Semdeg-
nairad nawildeba: msxvili biz-
nesi – 63.6%, saSualo biznesi
– 13.5%, mcire biznesi – 22.9%.
ai, aq mTavrdeba miSas da saqsta-
tis simarTle. qveyana, sadac
warmoebis 64 procenti msxvil
bizness miaqvs da wvrils mxo-
lod 23 procenti uWiravs, verc
samuSao adgilebs gazrdis da
verc cxovrebis dones gaaumjo-
besebs. ra aumjobesebs saakaSvi-
lis Semosavlebs, es sazogadoe-
bam isedac icis da ra zRaprebs
mohyveba prezidenti, ar aris
mniSvnelovani.
bolosityva, imis dasam-
tkiceblad, rom Cveni cxovreba
sul ufro rTuli da Rataki
xdeba, ramdenime magaliTs movi-
tanT: komerciulma bankeb-ma gadauxdelobis gamo151 154 kreditors saxligauyides. aqedan TavSe-safris gareSea darCeni-li 70 aTasamde ojaxi. 2011
wels aRsrulebis erovnuli bi-
uros mier biujetSi gadaricxu-
li Tanxis raodenobam 110 569
084 lari Seadgina, rac 2008
welTan SedarebiT 11-jer metia.
amasTan, gazrdilia movaleTa
reestrSi Canawerebis raodeno-
bac. Tu aTiode dRis win reest-
rSi CanawerTa raodenoba TiTq-
mis 60 aTass Seadgenda, dReis
monacemebiT am cifrma 61 aTass
gadaaWarba. movaleTa reestrSi
iuridiulze metad fizikuri pi-
rebi sWarboben. amis erT-erT
mTavar mizezad eqspertebi qveya-
naSi arsebul dabal ekonomikur
aqtivobas asaxeleben.
manana gegiZe
xelisuflebam wiaRiseulismopovebis kidev erTi
licenzia mihyida rusebs, anu rogor daicva msofliobankma banki `qarTu~
11saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa mmssaaxxiioobbii
paata baraTaSvili
__ bbaattoonnoo ppaaaattaa,, TTqqvveenn eerroovv-
nnuullii mmooZZrraaoobbiiddaann mmooddiixxaarrTT,,
iiyyoo oommeebbii,, aarreeuulloobbeebbii.. ppiirraaddaadd
TTqqvveenncc ddeevvnnaass ggaanniiccddiiddiiTT.. ddRReess
aaSSkkaarraadd aaRRaarr iissvvrriiaann,, mmaaggrraamm
xxaallxxii TTaavvss uuSSiiSSrraadd rroomm aarr
ggrrZZnnoobbss,, ffaaqqttiiaa.. mmooddiiTT,, SSeevvaaddaa-
rrooTT ddRReevvaannddeelloobbaa ddaa iiss wwaarr-
ssuullii ppeerriiooddii eerrTTmmaanneeTTss..
_ saxelmwifo sabWos dros
bevri ubedureba datrialda,
iyo kudianebze nadiroba, xal-
xis devna, saqarTvelos isto-
riaSi, yovel SemTxvevaSi, ra-
sac me moveswari, erT-erTi sa-
marcxvino furcelia. ar vici,
Tu arsebobs msgavsi analogi,
rom adamianma, romelmac qveya-
nas Tavisufleba, damoukideb-
loba moutana gandevnes, si-
cocxles gamoasalmes. vimeo-
reb, es erT-erTi samarcxvino
furcelia Cvens istoriaSi.
dRevandeloba im periodTan Se-
darebiT cota gansxvavebulia.
adre Tu xalxis devna aSkara
iyo, dRes Sefarulad akeTeben.
xelovnebaSi vmoRvaweob da
vTqvaT ra xdeba am sferoSi. na-
xeT nacionalur arxebze gada-
cemebi, Souebi, erTi da igive
xalxia, romlebic xelisufle-
bis maameblebi arian. sxva sfe-
roebSic asea. dRes, samwuxa-
rod, aSkarad xocaven xalxs.
naxeT, ra moxda axlaxan xaSur-
Si?! dRes demokratiis niRabs
amofarebuli moqmedeben, Torem
sxvaoba bevri ar aris. politi-
kur asparezze gamoCnda sapir-
wone Zala biZina ivaniSvili da
naxeT, ra iafasiani meTodebiT
ebrZvian. erTi kacis winaaRmdeg
icvleba qveynis kontitucia.
__ rraaddggaann bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii
aaxxsseenneeTT,, aaqqvvee SSeeggeekkiiTTxxeebbiiTT,, rroo-
ggoorr SSeeaaffaasseebbTT mmiiss ppoolliittiikkuurr
aarreennaazzee ggaammooCCeennaass??
_ politikur asparezze mi-
si gamoCeniT kmayofili var.
magram, erTs ki vurCev, gaake-
Tos arCevani erovnul Zalebze.
sabednierod, erovnuli muxti
saqarTveloSi ar gamqrala, sak-
maod aqtualuria.
saerTod, optimisti var. pe-
simistze amboben, kargad in-
formirebuli optimistiao.
etyoba, ara var informirebuli
da imitom var optimisti. xum-
roba iqiT iyos, saqarTvelos,
RvTismSoblis wilxvedr qveya-
nas RmerTi uSvelis, magram xe-
li Cvenc unda gavanZrioT. yo-
vel SemTxvevaSi, amaze uaresi,
rac dRes aris, araferi ar iq-
neba. biZina ivaniSvilma Tavisi
moRvaweobiT daamtkica, rom
uyvars qarTveli, xelovani,
sportsmeni, mecnieri, pativs
scems ganaTlebas da akeTebda
im saqmes, rac wesiT xelisuf-
lebas unda ekeTebina. gaegrZe-
lebina qvelmoqmedebao, _ am-
bobs zogierTi. ra kargia,
ara? amaTi saqme biZinam
akeTos da amaT kidev sa-
xelmwifo xazinidan fu-
li Caidon jibeSi. guSin-
deli cxvirmouxocavi
tipi rom xar, jer kidev
bavSvi rom moxvedi da
dajeqi ministris savar-
ZelSi, Rvawlmosil xa-
lxs, romlebmac 40-50
weli imuSaves, Seni xel-
fasis measeds unda aZlev-
de pensias? am xelisuf-
lebis yvelaze didi danaSau-
lia, rom Seqmna usamarTlo
qveyana. eseni aravis winaSe ar
arian angariSvaldebuli, rad-
gan gayalbebuli arCevnebiT mo-
vidnen xelisuflebaSi. ar min-
da mTeli qarTveli eri `ofi-
ciantebad~ gadaiqces, magram
aqeTken midis saqme.
__ ppaarrllaammeennttSSii pprreezziiddeennttiiss
ssttuummrroobbiissaass ooppoozziicciiiiss wwaarrmmoo-
mmaaddggeennlleebbmmaa rraattoomm aarr iissaauubbrreess
2266 mmaaiissss mmoommxxddaarr mmoovvlleenneebbzzee??
_ is dRe marTlac saSine-
leba iyo! ratom ar iyo amaze
laparaki, ar vici, SeiZleba is
liderebi, romlebic xelmZRva-
nelobdnen aqcias vinmesTvis mi-
uReblebi iyvnen, magram im xal-
xma ra daaSava, romlebsac ase
sastikad gauswordnen. ruseTis
agentebio, sxvebs abraleben,
magram TviTon arian! biZina iva-
niSvilis gamoCenamde rusebi
saakaSvils adanaSaulebdnen om-
is dawyebaSi, magram axla lav-
rovi ambobs, omi imitom da-
viwyeT, saqarTvelo nato-Si ar
gawevrianebuliyoo. ra sisule-
lea, vin gviRebs natoSi.
__ ppoolliittiikkuurr sscceennaazzee TTuu
aappiirreebbTT ggaammooCCeennaass ddaa ssaadd SSeeiiZZ-
lleebbaa vviixxiillooTT ppaaaattaa bbaarraaTTaaSSvvii-
llii??
_ iq sadac erovnuli Zale-
bia. dRes erovnuli Zalebi Zi-
riTadad Tavmoyrili arian
`kavkasiis helsinkis jgufSi~,
mec iq var da brZolas vagrZe-
leb.
gia burduli
`Òî, ÷òî ó âàñ íåò ñóäèìîñòè,_ ýòî íå âàøà çàñëóãà, à íàøàíåäîðàáîòêà~ _ feliqs edmun-
dis Ze ZerJinskis es sityvebi
erTi-erTze miesadageba saqarT-
velos moqmedi prezidentis, sa-
qarTvelos reformirebul-de-
formirebuli samarTaldamcavi
organoebisa da sasamarTlos
suliskveTebas.
principSi, ZerJinskis sity-
vebis gameoreba pirukuc kargad
iTqmeba da Sesrulebadia, anoma-
liuri warmonaqmni, e.w `qarTu-
li opozicia~ rom ar iyos ga-
daulaxav barierad qceuli. ma-
namde ki dawyebuli preziden-
tis cnobili miTiTebidan `nu-
lovani tolerantoba!~ _ dam-
Tavrebuli gldanis sasjelaRs-
rulebis dawesebulebaSi bo-
lodroindeli tiradiT, Zala-
Sia.
xaTuna kalmaxeliZem axali
sasjelaRsrulebis dawesebu-
lebis sazogadoebrivi misaRebi
rom daaTvalierebina baton
prezidents gldanSi, romelic
STagonebuli saxiT dahyveboda
da usmenda `cixeebis dedo-
fals~, laparakis saRerReli
aeSala, daiwyo da ra daiwyo _
marTla ar aqvs enas Zvali da
marTla wydeba Sublis ZarRvi
Turme...
saqarTvelos prezidenti mi-
xeil saakaSvili: _ `yvelani
isedac ubedur dReSi Cayares
imis gamo, rom danaSauli Cai-
dines da yvelaferi es moxda.
ojaxebi, isedac umZimes soci-
alur dReSi arian, xSir SemTx-
vevaSi amis gamo da aq mainc am
ojaxebs mainc unda gaumarti-
voT cxovreba Cven, imitom,
rom... gareT vinc ari darCeni-
li ojaxis wevrebi, imaT ro-
gor, raRacnairad Cven vuadvi-
lebT cxovrebas da arsebobas,
imitom, rom damcireba grZel-
deboda, yvelaze didi damcire-
ba iyo aq yofnis. ai, misaRebi,
amanaTebi, _ ase rom... Tqven
xarT saerTod axali saxe am
sistemis, imitom, rom sistema
iyo, piriqiT, orientirebuli
damcirebaze, Seviwrovebaze,
gamwarebaze da amiT sazdoobd-
nen da amiT fulsac akeTebdnen
da amiTi siamovnebasac iRebdnen
da, es su sxva raRaca ari, rac
iqmneba da Zaan mniSvnelovani
nawilia Cveni danarCeni saxel-
mwifos aTvisebisTvis.
Cven, axla, uamravi sxvadas-
xva gza gvaqvs, ro cixeebi, sa-
erTod, cota ganvtvirToT, imi-
to, ro Tu adamiani SeiZleba
ro cixeSi ar ijdes, yvelafe-
ri unda gaukeToT, ro cixeSi
ar ijdes. ari aridebis
meqanizmi, probacia, a. S
magram Tu ese gamovida,
ro ari iseTi danaSau-
li, romelic sazogado-
ebisgan unda iyos izo-
lirebuli, maTi ojaxis
wevrebi mainc unda iyv-
nen amiTi, minimalurad
dazaralebulebi.
es xalxi ro gamova,
meored ro ar Caidinos
danaSauli, normalur
ojaxebs unda daubrun-
des da amitom, es oja-
xebi unda iyon maqsimalurad,
raRacnairad, Rirsebis pirobeb-
Si.~ (`qronika~)
vin Cayara `ubedur dReSi~
ubedurebi da Rirsebis ra maq-
simalur pirobebSi arian, an ra
pirobebSi iqnebian msjavrdebu-
lebi da maTi ojaxis wevrebi,
amaze saubars, didi xania, azri
aqvs dakarguli. saintereso is
aris, ra `ojaxebi~ autydaT,
rodis aqeTaa, rom saqarTvelos
xelisufleba msjavrdebulTa
ojaxebze zrunavda? _ arada,
faqtad devs saqarTvelos ri-
giT moqalaqeTa mier `cixeebis
sadistka dedoflad~ wodebu-
li, sasjelaRsrulebis, proba-
ciisa da iuridiuli daxmarebis
sakiTxTa ministris, xaTuna
kalmaxeliZis gancxadeba, rom
misi saministros iniciativiT,
ojaxis gaZlierebis farglebSi.
`yovelTviurad, xangrZlivi da
video-paemnebiT, socialurad
daucveli or-ori ojaxi isar-
geblebs. msjavrdebulTa oja-
xebTan uSualo urTierTobis
xelSewyoba Cveni saministros
2012 wlis 10 prioritetuli
mimarTulebidan erT-erTi mniS-
vnelovani komponentia~, _ brZa-
na qalbatonma xaTunam.
sainteresoa, ra ojaxebze
saubrobs kalmaxeliZe maSin,
rodesac kanoni erTmniSvnelov-
nad iTvaliswinebs kritikul
mdgomareobaSi myofi patimris
gaTavisuflebas (2003 wlis
jandacvis saministros #72
brZanebaSi CamoTvlilia is da-
avadebebi, romlebic patimris
gaTavisuflebis safuZveli xde-
ba) qalbatoni xaTunas uwyeba
ki, arafrad agdebs kanons? _
sanam xelSi ar CaakvdebaT sne-
uli patimari, yurs ar iber-
tyen. axla imis mtkiceba, rom
patimarTa Seryeuli janmrTe-
lobis Sesaxeb informacias ar
floben, an sasjelaRsrulebis
dawesebulebebis eqimebi arian
arakompetenturebi _ dResaviT
naTelia, rom sicruea. bolo-
bolo, im avadsaxsenebel komu-
nistebs hqondaT e.w `aqtirov-
ka~ da am `demokrat~ xelisuf-
lebas ra sWirs aseTi mounele-
beli siZulvili adamianTa mod-
gmisa...
momzadebuli `cvlilebebis
paketiT~ mosamarTleebisTvis
disciplinaruli gadacdomis
saxeebis CamonaTvali mcirdeba.
CamonaTvalSi aRar iqneba Sefa-
sebiTi formulireba `kanonis
uxeSi darRveva.~
parlamentis iuridiul sa-
kiTxTa komitetis Tavmjdoma-
ris moadgilis kaxa anjafari-
Zis TqmiT, `kanonis uxeSi dar-
Rvevis~ amoRebiT, arsobrivad,
araferi icvleba, sakanonmdeb-
lo cvlileba, mxolod formu-
lirebiTi saxisaa, _ mTlad
brma-yruoba hgonia baton ka-
xas?
principSi, ar cruobs kaxa-
batoni, marTla araferi icvle-
ba, arc aqamde isjebodnen mosa-
marTleebi `kanonis uxeSi dar-
RvevisTvis~ da arc am kanonis
miRebis Semdeg daisjebian.
netav, baton anjafariZes ra
dro dasWirdeba im aTasobiT
saqmis CamosaTvlelad, roca
qarTul sasamarTloSi mosamar-
Tlem movaleoba ar Seasrula,
an arajerovnad Seasrula?
moqmedi kanonmdeblobiT, ka-
nonis uxeS darRvevad iTvleba
saqarTvelos konstituciis, sa-
qarTvelos saerTaSoriso xel-
Sekrulebebis da SeTanxmebebis,
saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobis
imperatiuli moTxovnebis dar-
Rveva, ramac arsebiTi ziani mi-
ayena (an SeeZlo mieyenebina)
procesis monawilis, mesame pi-
ris kanonier uflebebsa da in-
teresebs, an sajaro intere-
sebs. sainteresoa, kaxa-batoni
da mTlianad adamianTa ufleba-
Ta dacvisa da samoqalaqo in-
tegraciis saparlamento komi-
tetis wevrebi TviTonve ver
erkvevian sakuTar abdaubdaSi,
Tu hgoniaT, rom maT SeTxzul
abdaubdaSi sxva veravin gaerk-
veva? xelisgulze devs, rom
mosamarTleebs qveynis umaRle-
si kanonis _ konstituciis
darRvevac ki aRar CaeTvlebaT
gadacdomad!
maia WeliZe
am xelisuflebis yvelaze didi
danaSaulia, rom SeqmnausamarTlo qveyana
madloba vis? _ partias!
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rruubbrriikkaa `̀kkoonnssiilliiuummSSii~~ eennaaTT-
mmeeccnniieerrii levan Rvinjiliaggvveessaauubbrreebbaa
_ saxelmwifoTa absoluturi
umravlesoba Tavisi erT-erTi um-
Tavresi maxasiaTebliT – saxel-
wodebiT - Sesabamis eTnosTanaa
dakavSirebuli, anu, Tavis dro-
ze, es saxelmwifoebi erovnuli
niSniTaa Seqmnili, Tumca,
eTnikuri kuTvnilebisadmi damoki-
debulebis TvalsazrisiT, dRevan-
deli viTareba ramdenadme gansxva-
vebulia: dRes, eTnikuri maxasia-
Tebeli - erovnulobis erT-erTi
umTavresi niSani - wina planze
wamoweuli araa. ufro metic:
Turme, “karg tonad” iTvleba, Tu-
ki am maxasiaTebelze (eTnikur
warmomavlobaze) yuradReba saer-
Tod ar gamaxvildeba. aqve ganvmar-
tav, rom sityva ,,erovnebas” dRes
orgvari mniSvneloba aqvs: CvenSi -
da bevr sxva qveyanaSic - ,,erovne-
ba” eTnosTanaa gaigivebuli da am
eris (eTnosis) warsulis, misi
warmomavlobis mimaniSnebeli
sityvaa. rrooccaa vvaammbboobbTT - ,,,,eerroovvnnee-
bbiiTT qqaarrTTvveellii””,, eess nniiSSnnaavvss wwaarrmmoo-
mmaavvlloobbiiTT,, ggeenneettiikkuurraadd qqaarrTTvveellss,,
mmaaggrraamm ssxxvvaa eennaaSSii,, vvTTqqvvaaTT,, ffrraann-
gguullSSii `̀nnaassiioonnaalliittee~~ nniiSSnnaavvss aarraa
wwaarrmmoommaavvlloobbiiTT ffrraannggss,, aarraammeedd
ssaaffrraannggeeTTiiss mmooqqaallaaqqeess.. dRevandel
saqarTveloSi am sityvis (erovne-
bis) Tavdapirveli mniSvneloba
uaryofilia, anu oficialuri do-
kumentebidan es rekviziti amoRe-
bulia, xolo misi meore mniSvne-
loba, frangulSi an sxva evro-
pul enebSi rom gamoiyeneba (moqa-
laqes rom aRniSnavs), qarTulSi
damkvidrebuli jerac ar aris da
swored es iwvevs im mraval ga-
ugebrobas, rac Cveni enobrivi
arealis SigniT am sityvis gamoye-
nebas axlavs. magaliTad, koloni-
alizmis winaaRmdeg mimarTul
moZraobas ,,erovnul-ganmaTavisuf-
lebeli moZraoba” erqva, gasuli
saukunis miwuruls (80-90-ian
wlebSi) gavrcelda termini -
,,erovnuli moZraoba”, 2003-04
wlebSi ki gaCnda e.w. ,,nacionalu-
ri moZraoba”. inglisurSi (sxva
evropul enebSic) ,,erovnulic”
da ,,nacionaluric” erTi da imave
sityviT gamoixateba, magram, cxa-
dia, es imas ar niSnavs, rom naci-
onaluri moZraobis gaCenis Semdeg
sityva ,,erovnuli~ CvenSi ,,nacio-
nalurma” Caanacvla. ara, aq, sam-
wuxarod, seriozul aRrevasTan
gvaqvs saqme. zogjer erovnuls
iseT SemTxvevaSi iyeneben, sadac
nacionaluris xmarebaa saWiro,
anu sityvis datvirTva ara ,,eTni-
kuri”, aramed ufro ,,saxelmwifo-
ebrivi” niSniT. magaliTad, roca
amboben _ ,,erovnuli gamocdebi”,
rasakvirvelia, es ar niSnavs ,,eT-
nikurad qarTvelTa” gamocdebs.
erovnul gamocdebSi monawileobs
yvela eris warmomadgeneli, vinc
ki saqarTveloSi cxovrobs. ,,sa-
qarTvelos kanonSi zogadi ganaT-
lebis Sesaxeb” sityva erovnuls
sxva (meore) mniSvnelobac aqvs.
magaliTad, kanonSi naxmaria cneba
- ,,erovnuli mentaliteti”, rome-
lic arafriT ar SeiZleba iyos
polieTnikuri. roca sityvas ori
an meti gansxvavebuli mniSvnelo-
ba aqvs, isini erTmaneTisgan mkveT-
rad gamijnuli unda iyos, magram,
samwuxarod, dRevandelma xeli-
suflebam es ver moaxerxa da mi-
viReT sityvaTa semantikuri aRre-
va. aRniSnulis gaTvaliswinebiT,
Tu dRes liberalur-demokrati-
ul Rirebulebebs gadavxedavT, sa-
dac ,,erovneba” (,,eTnikuris” mniS-
vnelobiT) win wamoweuli ar
aris, aqcenti gadatanilia sityva
,,nacionalurze” (evropuli mniSv-
nelobiT) da xazgasmulia is, rom
am qveynis mkvidri adamianebisTvis
umTavresi maxasiaTebeli moqalaqe-
obaa. maSasadame, Tu vityviT, rom
erovnuloba adamianis vinaobaa,
moqalaqeoba aris - sadauroba. ad-
amians erTdroulad SeiZleba
hqondes vinaobac da sadaurobac,
magram es ukanaskneli vinaobis
alternativa ar aris. ,,vin xar?”
da ,,sadauri xar?” _ ori sxvadas-
xva ramaa. e.w. globalist-kosmo-
politebs ratomRac moeCvenaT,
rom vinaobis win wamoweva saWiro
ar aris. rrooccaa eerroovvnnuull ssaaxxeellmmwwii-
ffoozzee vvssaauubbrroobbTT,, aaqqvvee CCnnddeebbaa kkiiTTxx-
vveebbii __ ,,,,rraa aarriiss qqaarrTTuullii ooccnnee-
bbaa??””,, ,,,,rraazzee vvooccnneebboobbTT,, rraa ssaaxxeell-
mmwwiiffooss vvaaSSeenneebbTT?? ,,,,qqaarrTTuullii ooccnnee-
bbaa”” qqaarrTTuull ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooss gguulliissxx-
mmoobbss?? __ ddiiaaxxoo!! ggvveettyyvviiaann,, mmaaggrraamm
qqaarrTTuullii ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo rraass gguulliiss-
xxmmoobbss,, ssiittyyvvaa __ qqaarrTTuullii rraass nniiSS-
nnaavvss aaqq?? __ ccxxaaddiiaa,, eess mmxxoolloodd qqaarr-
TTuullaadd mmoollaappaarraakkee ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooss
aarr nniiSSnnaavvss.. ki, erT-erTi umTavre-
si komponenti isaa, rom es saxel-
mwifo qarTulad unda laparakob-
des, magram mTavaria, es iyos te-
ritoria, romelic genetikuri
qarTvelebiT iqneba (da aris) da-
saxlebuli, rac, bunebrivia, sxva-
enovan eTnikur diasporebTan Tu
erovnul umciresobaTa warmomad-
genlebTan Tanacxovrebas aranai-
rad ar gamoricxavs, magram, amaT-
gan gansxvavebiT (es ar exeba afxa-
zebs), CCvveennTTvviiss ((qqaarrTTvveelleebbiissTTvviiss))
eess mmiiwwaa-wwyyaallii eerrTTaaddeerrTTii tteerriittoo-
rriiaaaa,, ssaaddaacc SSeeiiZZlleebbaa qqaarrTTvveellii,,
rrooggoorrcc kkaaccoobbrriioobbiiss mmooddggmmaa,, aarr-
sseebboobbddeess.. bunebrivia, TiToeuli
Cvengani fiqrobs erze, qveyanaze,
mis momavalze, ojaxze... fiqrs ra
dalevs, magram ratom gaxda meo-
rexarisxovani adamianis warmomav-
lobiTi Taviseburebebis aRniSvna?
rogorc Cans, amas safuZveli aqvs.
vviinn aarriiss qqaarrTTvveellii?? __qqaarrTTvveellii
aarriiss aaddaammiiaannii,, vviinncc qqaarrTTuull eennaaSSii
ccxxoovvrroobbss,, aannuu vviinncc ssaammyyaarrooss qqaarr-
TTuullii eenniiTT aaRRiiqqvvaammss,, qqaarrTTuullaadd
xxeeddaavvss ssiizzmmaarrss,, aabbooddeebbss,, ffiiqqrroobbss,,
ggaanniiccddiiss qqaarrTTuullaadd,, vviissaacc mmiissddaauu-
nneebbuurraadd wwaammoossccddeebbaa qqaarrTTuullii,, aannuu
vviissaacc aarraammxxoolloodd ggaaccnnoobbiieerreebbuullii
aaqqvvss TTaavviissii qqaarrTTvveelloobbaa ddaa qqaarrTTuu-
lleennoovvnneebbaa,, aarraammeedd qqvveeccnnoobbiieerrSSiicc,,
ggaauuccnnoobbiieerreebbeell SSiinnaaggaann ssaammyyaarroo-
SSiicc,, rroommeelliicc ggaaaazzrreebbuullii aarr aaqqvvss,,
iiqqaacc yyvveellaaffeerrii ,,,,qqaarrTTuullaaddaaaa
mmoowwyyoobbiillii..”” es aris qarTveli.
aris Tu ara yvelaferi amis ,,mo-
qalaqis statusSi gadayvana” saWi-
ro da aucilebeli? qarTveli eri
(aqve vixmar termins, romelic
presaSi jer ar gaxmianebula, mas-
ze SeiZleba vinmem ikamaTos, mag-
ram ara uSavs!) kacobriobis saxe-
obaa. me ar vambob, rogori saxeo-
baa _ kargi, cudi, saSualo, vin-
meze uaresi, Tu - ukeTesi _ es
calke msjelobis sagania, magram
cal-calke aRebuli yvela eTno-
si kacobriobis saxeobaa, romelic
samyaros Tavisi mSobliuri eniT
aRiqvams es bevrad ufro gansxva-
vebuli xedvebia samyarosi, vidre
gansxvaveba leopardsa da iaguars,
lomsa da vefxvs, jiqsa da focx-
vers, panTerasa da avazas Soris,
miuxedavad imisa, rom yvelani ka-
tisebrTa ojaxidan arian. saWiroa
Tu ara arsebobdes da SenarCune-
buli iyos es saxeobebi? _ diax,
es ase unda iyos, amaSi SeTanxme-
bulnica varT. adamis modgmis mi-
marT ase konkretulad ar gvims-
jelia, magram biologiur samya-
roze xom vzrunavT. Tu biomra-
valferovnebas ase TavgametebiT
icavs mTeli civilizebuli msof-
lio, miTumetes unda vizrunoT
kacobriobis saxeobebze, romlebic
unikalur da erTmaneTisagan gans-
xvavebul kulturas qmnidnen da
dResac qmnian.
_ batono levan, konkretulad
,,Cveni saxeobis” gadarCenas raime
safrTxe emuqreba?
_ diax, safrTxe emuqreba, ro-
melsac pirobiTad SeiZleba ,,sin-
gapurizacia” vuwodoT. sanam amas
ganvmartav, manamde davsvaT kiTxva
_ dasaxlebulia Tu ara yvela
qveyana ,,kacobriobis saxeobebiT”?
_ pasuxi negatiuria – ara! aris
qveyana, romelic dRes TiTqos
ganviTarebis gezs gviCvenebs
mTels danarCen msoflios _ esaa
amerikis Seertebuli Statebi. aSS
swored is qveyanaa, romelSic mo-
qalaqeobrivi kuTvnilebaa domi-
nanturi. amerikeli eri (nacia) ar
warmoadgens kacobriobis saxeobas.
es, ra Tqma unda, amerikelobis
mniSvnelobas sulac ar akninebs.
garemoebebma ganapirobes ise, rom
Tavis droze sxvadasxva qveynidan
wasulma adamianebma, romlebmac
TavianT samSobloebze uari Tqves,
Tavi moiyares amerikaSi. ccnnoobbiillii
qqaarrTTvveellii ffssiiqqoollooggii,, bbaattoonnii SSoo-
TTaa nnaaddiirraaSSvviillii aammbboobbddaa __ aammeerriikkaa
ssaammSSoobbllooss uuaarrmmyyooffeellii aaddaammiiaannee-
bbiiss mmiieerr SSeeqqmmnniillii qqvveeyyaannaaaaoo.. isini
sxva kontinentze, sxvis miwaze
dasaxldnen da iq aaSenes ze-sa-
xelmwifo, riTac maT Segnebulad
Tqves uari kacobriobis saxeobad
yofnaze. ddiiddii bbooddiiSSii yyvveellaa aammeerrii-
kkeellTTaann iimm SSeeddaarreebbiissTTvviiss,, rraassaacc
aaxxllaa vviittyyvvii:: __ vviirriicc ddaa ccxxeenniicc
bbiioollooggiiuurrii ssaaxxeeoobbeebbiiaa,, mmaaggrraamm
ccxxeenniissaa ddaa vviirriiss nnaaSSiieerrii __ jjoorrii
- uukkvvee ssaaxxeeoobbaa aaRRaarr aarriiss,, rraaddggaann
mmaass ggaannvviiTTaarreebbiiss ppeerrssppeeqqttiivvaa aarraa
aaqqvvss.. igi cxenisebrTa ojaxSi ,,mo-
qalaqea”, magram ar aris cxenisna-
irTa saxeoba. anu, is, vinc Tavis
istorias sufTa furclidan
iwyebs, ar SeiZleba istoriuli
saxeoba iyos. SSeeiiZZlleebbaa aaSSSS-ssggaann
mmiissaabbaaZZii ddaa ggaaddmmoossaaRReebbii iiyyooss ssaammoo-
qqaallaaqqoo RRiirreebbuulleebbeebbii,, mmaaggrraamm mmaass
eeTTnniikkuurrii wwaarrssuullii ddaa mmiiss mmiieerrvvee
SSeeqqmmnniillii eeTTnnookkuullttuurraa aarr ggaaaaCCnniiaa..
CCvveenn SSeeggvviiZZlliiaa aavvaaSSeennooTT eerroovvnnuullii
ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo iissee,, rroomm ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo
RRiirreebbuulleebbeebbii aarr ddaavvkkaarrggooTT,, ppiirrii-
qqiiTT __ ggaannvvaavviiTTaarrooTT,, aavviiTTvviissooTT,,
mmaaggrraamm aarraammcc ddaa aarraammcc aarraaffeerrii aarr
uunnddaa ggaavvaakkeeTTooTT iisseeTTii,, rroommeelliicc
qqaarrTTvveelliiss,, rrooggoorrcc kkaaccoobbrriioobbiiss
ssaaxxeeoobbiiss,, ggaaddaarrCCeennaa-ggaannvviiTTaarreebbaass
SSeeuuSSlliiss xxeellss.. amitom da amrigad,
upirveles yovlisa, aucilebelia,
kargad movemzadoT imisaTvis, ra-
Ta globaluri procesebis Tana-
monawileni gavxdeT. iqneba es in-
terneti, mobiluri kavSirebi, te-
lekomunikaciebi, Tu sxva. ras
niSnavs yvelafers momzadebulni
davxvdeT? _ gana ar varT momza-
debulni? _ kompiuterebsac vxma-
robT da mobilurebsac, magram am
sferoebidan Cveni qveynis saxelm-
wifo ena arsebiTad gamoTiSulia
da, roca globalur samyaros in-
glisurad vuerTdebiT, maSin Cveni
ena Tavis umniSvnelovanes funqci-
as hkargavs. Tu Cven es ,,enobrivi
teritoriebi” ar aviTviseT, di-
dad davzaraldebiT. enobrivi te-
ritoriebi ki Cven marto geogra-
fiul arealebSi ar gvaqvs dasab-
runebeli afxazeTis, samxreT-ose-
Tis, samcxe-javaxeTis an qvemo
qarTlis saxiT, aramed qarTule-
novani teritoriebi eleqtronul
sivrceSic dakarguli gvaqvs da es
yvelaferi unda davibrunoT. am
TvalsazrisiT, misabaZia israelis
damokidebuleba Tavisi enisadmi,
saxelmwifoebriobisadmi. ebrae-
lebma TiTqmis mkvdari ena _ ebra-
uli gaacocxles da saxelmwifo
enad aqcies.
_ ebraelebma ki gaacocxles
ena, Tumca Cven gaamerikeleba-ggain-
gliselebisken mivdivarT. Tqven
brZaneT, qarTvelia is, vinc qar-
Tul enaSi cxovrobso. am fonze,
ramdenad arsebobs safrTxe, rom
sizmari qarTulis nacvlad ingli-
surad vnaxoT. aqve, erT magaliTs
gavixseneb, roca safrangeTis pre-
zidenti sarkozi bolos saqarTve-
loSi imyofeboda, man Tqva, imedia
aq male franguladac ilaparakebe-
no. anu man, Tavisi ena sxva qveya-
naSi daicva. Cven ki ra gvWirs ase-
Ti, rom Cvensave qveyanaSi ver dag-
vicavs sakuTari _ qarTuli ena?
_ Zalian sagulisxmo da mniS-
vnelovani kiTxvaa. zogs hgonia,
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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13saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
enis dacva maRaziis Sesasvlelze
gakeTebuli inglisurenovan war-
weraze SeniSvnis gamoTqmiT amoi-
wureba; eenniiss ddaaccvvaa aarr aarriiss pprroo-
ffeessiiaa __ eess mmooqqaallaaqqeeoobbrriivvii mmoovvaa-
lleeoobbaaaa.. ssaakkuuTTaarr TTaavvzzee SSeemmiiZZlliiaa
ggiiTTxxrraaTT:: zzooggiiss aazzrriiTT,, TTuurrmmee,, mmee
pprrooffeessiiiiTT eenniiss ddaammccvveellii vvyyooffiill-
vvaarr.. ssiinnaammddvviilleeSSii kkii kkaavvkkaassiioolloo-
ggii ggaaxxllaavvaarrTT - ddaaRReessttnnuurrii eenneebbiiss
ssppeecciiaalliissttii.. zzooggjjeerr vvxxuummrroobb
xxoollmmee,, aabbrraaggii vvaarr-mmeeTTqqii,, rraakkiiRRaa
aabbrreebbzzee wwaarrwweerreebbiiss ggaasswwoorreebbaa mmii-
wweevvss (ufro sworad, adre miwevda,
Torem axla esec ver xerxdeba,
rac Cveni xelisufleba ingli-
surs kruxiviT gadaefofra. sinam-
dvileSi, es ubralo saqme sulac
araa, es swored is sakiTxia, rom-
lis gauTvaliswineblad mentalu-
rad amerikelis tipis mosaxleo-
bad gadaviqceviT. prezidenti xSi-
rad ambobs _saqarTvelo Tanabrad
yvelasiao, magram mas kargad ara
aqvs gaazrebuli am gamonaTqvamis
mniSvneloba. Tanabrad yvelasi da
saerTo singapuria, sadac ZiriTa-
di mosaxleoba 17 procentia, xo-
lo saxelmwifo ena - inglisuri
- es 17 da danarCeni 83 procenti
erTmaneTs inglisurad esaubreba.
iq erovnulobaze laparaki ar Se-
iZleba. ssiinnggaappuurrii aarr aarriiss kkaaccoobb-
rriioobbiiss ssaaxxeeoobbaa,, iisseevvee,, rrooggoorrcc
aammeerriikkaa,, mmaaggrraamm CCvveenn TTuu ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-
llooss qqaarrTTuulleennoovvaann ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoodd
aarr CCaammoovvaayyaalliibbeebbTT,, mmaaSSiinn mmaass aaqqvvss
mmeeoorree ppeerrssppeeqqttiivvaa __ ggaaxxddeess iinngg-
lliissuurreennoovvaannii tteerriittoorriiaa ddaa qqaarr-
TTvveelloobbaamm,, rrooggoorrcc kkaaccoobbrriioobbiiss
ssaaxxeeoobbaamm aarrsseebboobbaa SSeewwyyvviittooss.. aq
darCebian warmoSobiT qarTvelebi,
iseve, rogorc slavuri warmoSo-
bis krilovebi, gogolebi da a.S.
cxovroben Cxorowyusa da mart-
vilSi. idealuri viTareba iqnebo-
da, rodesac xar saqarTvelos
araqarTulenovani moqalaqe, mTli-
anad inarCuneb Sens eTnikur Tavi-
seburebebs, magram, enobrivi Tval-
sazrisiT, saxelmwifoSi iseve iq-
cevi, rogorc qarTveli. magali-
Tad, Tbilisel qurTebTan, an
iezidebTan urTierTobisas enob-
rivi, moqalaqeobrivi problema
arasodes ar yofila da arc aris,
isini qarTvelebTan erTad aSeneben
erovnul saxelmwifos. es imas ar
niSnavs, rom qurTebma aucileb-
lad ,,Cakrulo” da ,,mravalJamie-
ri” unda imReron an Cveni xalxu-
ri cekvebi Seiswavlon. ara, ba-
tono! maT TavianTi eTnokul-
tura da adaT-wesebi SeinarCu-
non, aravin amaSi xels ar uS-
lis, ar zRudavs. eerrTTaaddeerrTTii
ffaaqqttoorrii,, uurroommlliissooddaacc ssaaxxeell-
mmwwiiffoo mmoonnoolliiTTuurrii ddaa mmTTlliiaannii
vveerr iiqqnneebbaa,, eennaaaa ddaa eess ddaammookkii-
ddeebbuulleebbaa __ ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooSSii ssxxvvaa-
ddaassxxvvaa eennaazzee mmoollaappaarraakkee aaddaammiiaa-
nneebbiiss mmiimmaarrTT,, jjeerr kkiiddeevv 2233-2244
ssaauukkuunniiss wwiinnaannddeell ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo-
SSiiaa ggaammooxxaattuullii,, rodesac quji
egriseli da farnavazi Tanxmde-
bian, rom saqarTvelo iyos er-
Tiani qarTulenovani saxelmwi-
fo Tavisi mravali SenakadiT:
`ese farnavaz iyo pirveli mefe
qarTlisa Sina qarTvelsa naTe-
savTagani, aman ganavrco ena
qarTuli da arRara izraxeboda
sxua ena qarTlsa Sina Tvinier
qarTulisa da aman Seqmna mwig-
nobrobai qarTuli~. amisave ma-
galiTia svanebisa da megrel-Wane-
bis (kolxebis anu zanebis) Semo-
erTeba erTian qarTul sivrceSi
da amis safuZvelze kvlav erTia-
ni qarTveli eris Camoyalibeba.
amas garda, uamravi sxva eri da
eTnosi SemogvierTda, absolutu-
rad yvela miviReT, viZmeT, Sevi-
kedleT. axla me gekiTxebiT: roca
EerTiani didi ojaxis 20-mde wev-
ri erT enaze vlaparakobT, erTi
da ori rom Semovida ucxo, Cven
20-ni mis enaze unda gadavideT?
ratom?, xom Tavad Semovidnen
Cvens ojaxSi,sakuTari nebiT da
surviliT? hoda, gvelaparakon
didi ojaxis enaze, saerTo enaze
da saerTo saxelmwifo avaSenoT.
ai, ras veZaxi erovnul saxelmwi-
fos da vis SeuZlia amas raime da-
upirispiros? ratom unda moviWra
me saxelmwifoebrivad amerikul
modelze, rodesac SemiZlia iqe-
dan mxolod moqalaqeobrivi Rire-
bulebebi wamoviRo. erovnuli sa-
xelmwifos aSeneba ki enis movla-
patronobis gareSe ar moxerxdeba.
sabWoTa saqarTveloSi 20-ian
wlebSi daiwyo terminologiri
saqmianoba. 11992211 wweellss TTbbiilliissiiss
uunniivveerrssiitteettSSii eennoobbrriivvii kkoommiissiieebbii
SSeeiiqqmmnnaa,, ggaammssaaxxuurrddiiaass ddaa SSeevvaarrddnnaa-
ZZiiss ddrrooss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo eenniiss mmuuddmmii-
vvii ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo kkoommiissiiaa pprreezziiddeenn-
tteebbiiss rraannggSSii iiyyoo aayyvvaanniillii,, ssaaaakkaaSS-
vviillmmaa kkii aabbssoolluuttuurraadd yyvveellaaffeerrii
wwaaSSaallaa.. rrooggoorr?? iivvaannee jjaavvaaxxiiSSvviill-
mmaa,, aarrnnoolldd CCiiqqoobbaavvaamm,, aakkaakkii SSaannii-
ZZeemm,, ggiioorrggii aaxxvvlleeddiiaannmmaa,, vvaarrllaamm
TTooffuurriiaamm,, qqeeTTeevvaann lloommTTaaTTiiZZeemm,,
iivvaannee ggiiggiinneeiiSSvviillmmaa,, nniikkoo mmuussxxee-
lliiSSvviillmmaa,, iilliiaa vveekkuuaamm,, nniikkoo
kkeeccxxoovveellmmaa,, ssiimmoonn jjaannaaSSiiaamm ddaa
ssxxvvaa kkoorriiffeeeebbmmaa aarr iiccooddnneenn,, rraass
aakkeeTTeebbddnneenn,, rraattoomm iiyyoo eess ssaaWWiirroo
ddaa mmiiSSaamm uukkeeTTeessaadd iicciiss??!!
_ am korifeebs, romlebic
qarTuli universitetis saTaveeb-
Tan idgnen, ganaTleba ruseTSi
hqondaT miRebuli, Tumca icodnen,
rom amis gamo saqarTveloSi ru-
seTi ar unda aeSenebinaT. axlan-
deli mTavrobis wevrebis didma
nawilma ki ucxoeTSi daamTavres
universitetebi da amitom Cveni
samSoblo inglisad unda gadaake-
Ton?
_ dRes miSas qveynis ganviare-
bis gezi arCeuli aqvs: is ambobs,
rom singapurs aSenebs. modiT, am
ambavs saqarTveloSi mcxovrebi
romelime sxva eTnosis warmomad-
genlis, magaliTad, somxis pozi-
ciidan SevxedoT: _ kaco, es qar-
Tvelebi TviTon inglisurze gada-
dian, Cven gveubnebian, grantebs
mogcemT, jer qarTuli, mere ing-
lisuric iswavleTo, qarTuls
rom viswavliT, qarTvelebs ki da-
velaparakebiT, magram azerbaijane-
lebmac ar ician qarTuli _ axla,
azerbaijanulic viswavloT? Tu
ra vqnaT?. amitom ssoommeexxii ffiiqqrroobbss::
aarr mmiirrCCeevvnniiaa,, mmeecc ppiirrddaappiirr iinnggllii-
ssuurrii vviisswwaavvlloooo.. rrooggoorrcc ssaabbWWooTTaa
kkaavvSSiirriiss ddrrooss iiyyoo,, rrooccaa rruussuullss
eerroovvnneebbaaTTaaSSoorriiss uurrTTiieerrTToobbiiss
eennaass eeZZaaxxddnneenn.. aaxxaall vviiTTaarreebbaaSSii aamm
ffuunnqqcciiaass iinngglliissuurrii iittvviirrTTaavvss ddaa
mmooggWWaammaaTT WWiirrii qqaarrTTuullmmaa,, rrooggoorrcc
qqvveeyynniiss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo eennaamm..
roca prezidenti saakaSvili
navrozobas ulocavs azerbaijane-
lebs da bodiSs uxdis maT
imis gamo, rom ufro kar-
gad ar icis azerbaijanu-
li da hpirdeba, Semdegi
SexvedrisTvis mets vis-
wavlio _ es ar aris swo-
ri! prezidenti ar aris
valdebuli iswavlos im-
deni ena, ramdeni sxvadas-
xva eTnosis warmomadgene-
lic cxovrobs CvenTan.
arcerT saxelmwifoSi ase
ar xdeba. rac Seexeba, mis
sajaro gamosvlebs, roca
prezidenti qveynis saxe-
liT gamodis, igi qveynis enaze _
qarTulad unda laparakobdes.
prezident obamas sarkozisTan an
merkelTan rom hqonoda daxuruli
Sexvedra, gareT gamosvlis Semdeg,
Tqven ggoniaT, isini preskonfe-
renciaze laparaks inglisurad
daiwyebdnen? ar yofila SemTxveva,
rom preskonferenciaze safrange-
Tis prezidents inglisurad ela-
parakos. rao? ar icis man ingli-
suri? _ rogor gekadrebaT, Zali-
an kargad icis! angelamac icis
germanulis garda sxva enebi, mag-
ram igi germanias warmoadgens,
germania laparakobs misi piriT.
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss pprreezziiddeennttiiss ppiirriiTT
ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo uunnddaa llaappaarraakkoobbddeess ddaa
aarraa aammeerriikkaa aann iinngglliissii.. samwuxa-
rod, CvenTan ise SemoiWra es ing-
lisuri, rogori agresiuli Se-
moWris faqtic sabWoTa perodSic
ki ar dasturdeba. rusebs amis
msgavsi araferi ar gaukeTebiaT.
ufro metic, rusuli enidan qar-
TulSi sityva _ leqsikuri erTe-
uli TiTqmis ar Semosula, Ti-
To-orolas garda da imasac ki
qarTul Sesatyvisebs vuZebnidiT
(me ar vgulisxmob zepiri gziT
gavrcelebul barbarizmebs). ing-
lisuri ki sakmaod didi doziT
Semovida.
_ Tqven aRniSneT xe nayofiT
icnobao, magram Cven xes cdilo-
ben sxva fesvebi Caudgan da ase
xom sul sxva nayofs miviRebT?
_ rac Seexeba fesvebs, ru-
sebs odnavi zianic ki ar mouye-
nebiaT, am TvalsazrsiT, qarTu-
lenovani sazogadoebisTvis. mmccdd-
eelloobbaa iimmiissaa,, rroomm ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo
iinngglliissuurreennoovvaannii ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo
ggaaxxddeess,, vvffiiqqrroobb ggaannwwiirruulliiaa,,
rraammddeennaaddaacc eess mmoommaasswwaavveebbeellii iiqq-
nneebbaa iimmiissaa,, rroomm eerrmmaa TTvviiTTmmkkvvllee-
lloobbaazzee mmooaawweerrooss xxeellii ddaa mmeerree
uukkvvee ggaammoossaaZZiieebbeellii aaRRaarr iiqqnneebbaa,,
vviinnmmeemm ggvveessrroollaa TTuu TTvviiTToonn mmoo-
vviikkaalliiTT TTaavvii.. es kargad unda ga-
viazroT da vicodeT, ra misia gva-
kisria, ramdenad gvinda aseTebi
viyoT. eri, rogorc cocxali or-
ganizmi, romelic sicocxlisuna-
riania, wesiT, amgvar nabijs ar
unda dgamdes. darwmunebuli var,
am sakiTxebs politikaSi momavali
axali Zala yuradRebas miaqcevs.
_ ,,axal Zalas” gaazrebuli
aqvs, rom erovnuli saxelmwifos
Seneba enis faqtoris ignorirebiT
SeuZlebelia? saxelmwifos mSe-
nebloba enaze saubriT da ara
ekonomikis win wamoweviT rom un-
da daviwyoT?
_ saxelmwifo mravali kompo-
nentisgan Sedgeba. Tu adamiani
mSieria, bavSvi Caucmeli hyavs, ga-
naTlebas ver aZlevs, gzebi mou-
wesrigebelia, aseT SemTxvevaSi
mas eris sulier misiaze da sxva
msgavs maRal materiebze veRar da-
elaparakebi. magram yovelTvis
kargad unda gaviazroT da TiTo-
euli moqalaqis gonebamde daviyva-
noT, rom es yvelaferi saSuale-
baa imisaTvis, rom qarTvelma er-
ma, rogorc kacobriobis saxeobam
da samyaros gamorCeulma, gansxva-
vebulma movlenam, Tavisi sulieri
misia ganaxorcielos, aaRorZinos
SemoqmedebiTi potenciali da igi
mTels kacobriobas gauziaros.
eerrTTmmaa WWkkvviiaannmmaa kkaaccmmaa mmiiTTxxrraa
ssaauubbaarrSSii __ wwaawwlloobbiissaa ddaa sswwoorrff-
rroobbiiss iinnssttiittuuttiiss mmqqoonnee eerrss aaxx-
llaa ggvvaasswwaavvlliiaann bbooiiffrreennddii ddaa
ggeellffrreennddii rrooggoorr vviiyyoolliiooTToo??!!
uuaammrraavvii mmiivviiwwyyeebbuullii aaddaaTT-wweessii ggvv-
aaqqvvss,, rraazzeecc CCvveennii ,,,,ppaattrroonnii”” yyuu-
rraaddRReebbaass aarr aammaaxxvviilleebbss.. kkii,, SSeeiiZZ-
lleebbaa aarr aarriiss ssaaWWiirroo CCaammooxxrrCCoobbii-
lliiss ssaaxxllSSii TTookkzzee vviissaauubbrrooTT,,
mmaaggrraamm vviiRRaaccaamm TTaavvii rroomm CCaammooiixxrr-
CCoo,, aammiiss ggaammoo TTookkiiss wwaarrmmooeebbaa SSeevv-
wwyyvviittooTT??!!
weRan Tqven axseneT, safrange-
Tis prezidentma Cvens samSoblo-
Si sakuTari ena daicvao. safran-
geTSi arsebobs saministro, rom-
lis funqcia safrangeTis gareT
franguli enis gavrcelebaa. iqneb
me franguli mirCevnia, ratom ma-
iZuleb maincadamainc inglisurs?
siRnaRSi cxovrobs erTi amerike-
li, romelmac qarTuli simRera
iswavla da colic qarTveli Se-
irTo. ai, am tipis ,,SemoerTeba”
gvinda qarTul kulturasTan da
saxelmwifosTan. saakaSvili ki
araqarTulad iqceva, roca ambobs
saqarTvelo Tanabrad yvelasiao _
ara! ar aris, batono, Tanabrad
yvelasi. saqarTveloSi mcxovreb
araqarTvel mosaxleobas kargad
unda avuxsnaT _ saqarTvelos
konstituciiT saqarTvelos sa-
xelmwifo ena aris qarTuli. qar-
Tvelebis es erTi unikaluri fe-
nomeni somxisTvisac, azerbaijane-
lisTvisac da sxva yvelasTvis,
vinc aq cxovrobs, savaldebuloa,
ise, rogorc azerbaijanSi azerba-
ijanuli, da somxeTSi somxuri.
maSasadame, Tanasworoba Tundac am
erT punqtSi ukve dairRva. garda
amisa, SemiZlia bevri magaliTi Ca-
movTvalo, ris gamoc ar varT Ta-
nasworni. sxvaTaSoris, obamam sa-
akaSvils mouwona _ qveyanaSi um-
ciresobaTa sakiTxebi sworad
gaqvs gadawyvetilio. me Tu
mkiTxavT, ar aqvs sworad gadawy-
vetili, ufro metic, saerTod ga-
dasawyvetia es sakiTxi. Cven ar vi-
ciT saqarTveloSi vin aris umci-
resoba. saqarTveloSi yvela so-
mexs unda hqondes garantirebuli,
samarTlebrivi TvalsazrisiT, yve-
la is ufleba, rac garantirebu-
li aqvs parizSi, los-anjelesSi,
niu-iorkSi da a.S. vikiTxoT, ra
uflebebiT sargebloben
iqauri somxebi da yvela
is ufleba aqac mivani-
WoT. gavarkvioT es da
mere vnaxoT, rogor aR-
moCndeba Sarl aznavuri
safrangeTSi frangi da
axalcixeSi somexi. eeTTnnii-
kkuurrii uummcciirreessoobbeebbiiss ssaa-
kkiiTTxxiicc iisseevvee ggaaddaavvwwyyvvii-
ttooTT,, rrooggoorrcc eess mmssooff-
lliiooSSiiaa.. eerrTTxxeell ddaa ssaammuu-
ddaammoodd ggaavveerrkkvveeTT __ vviinn
aarriiss qqvveeyyaannaaSSii eerroovvnnuullii
uummcciirreessoobbaa ddaa vviinn ddiiaass-
ppoorraa.. aaxxaall xxeelliissuufflleebbaass eess ssaa-
kkiiTTxxii uunnddaa ddaavvuussvvaaTT:: TTuu mmssoofflliioo
aarr aaRRiiaarreebbss eerroovvnneebbaass,, rrooggoorrcc
mmooqqaallaaqqeeTTaa ggaaeerrTTiiaanneebbiiss nniiSSaannss,,
mmaaSSiinn eerroovvnnuullii uummcciirreessoobbaa rraaRRaa
aarriiss?? ar scnob umravlesobas da
am dros imis umciresoba gaqvs,
romlis umravlesobasac ar
scnob? _ es kuriozia. saqarTve-
loSi mcxovrebi somxebi qarTve-
lebisken unda modiodnen. Cven ar
varT valdebulni somxebisken via-
roT. ki batono, somxebTan wavalT
erevanSi, rogorc stumrebi da me-
gobrebi. magram saqarTveloSi isi-
ni iseTive maspinZlebi arian, ro-
gorc qarTvelebi da Cveni ojaxis
adaT-wesi, rogorc maspinZelma,
saqarTvelos moqalaqem, srulad
unda aiTvisos. saqarTveloSi
mcxovrebi somexi, ucxoeTSi, qar-
Tveli eris warmomadgeneli unda
iyos da ara somxebis. vin aris
erovnuli umciresoba saqarTve-
loSi? erovnuli umciresoba sa-
qarTveloSi afxazebi arian. SeiZ-
leba kidev ramdenime eTnosis sa-
kiTxic daisvas, magaliTad qurTe-
bis, romelTac saxelmwifo warmo-
naqmni ara aqvT. gamokveTilad, Se-
miZlia vTqva _ osebi ar arian sa-
qarTveloSi erovnuli umcireso-
ba. magram afxazebze zrunva ki ga-
morCeuladaa saWiro. rac Seexeba
somxur kulturas, mas saqarTve-
loSi zrunva namdvilad ar sWir-
deba – ssoommxxuurrii eennaa ddaa kkuullttuurraa
uunnddaa aaRRoorrZZiinnddeess ddaa ggaannvviiTTaarrddeess
mmxxoollooddddaammxxoolloodd ssoommxxeeTTSSii ddaa
aarrssaadd ssxxvvaaggaann.. mmaaSSaassaaddaammee,, aaffxxaazzeebb-
zzee zzrruunnvvaa CCvveennii uuppiirrvveelleessii aammoo-
ccaannaaaa iimmiittoomm,, rroomm mmaaTT ssxxvvaa ssaamm-
SSoobblloo aarraa aaqqvvTT.. yyvveellaa qqaarrTTvveellmmaa
kkaarrggaadd ggaavvaaxxiillooTT TTvvaallii,, ggaavviiaazz-
rrooTT ddaa eess xxaallxxii gguullSSii CCaavviikkrraaTT
iimm SSeeggnneebbiiTT,, rroomm iissiinnii CCvveennii ZZmmeebbii,,
ddeebbii aarriiaann.. iimmaazzee kkii aarr uunnddaa vvffiiqq-
rroobbddeeTT,, rroomm ccaallkkee ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoodd
ggaammoovvyyooTT.. aarrsseebboobbss ssxxvvaa ggzzeebbii mmaa-
TTii gguulleebbiisskkeenn,, aammaazzee uunnddaa vviimmssjjee-
llooTT.. sswwoorreedd aammaass ggvvTTaavvaazzoobbss
ddRReess bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii.. saakaSvil-
sac hqonda es Sansi, magram Tavi-
si uunarobis gamo, ver gamoiyena.
axla, wyaldidoba gvaqvs da yve-
lam erTad unda gadavarCinoT qve-
yana niaRvrisgan. davdgeT erTmane-
Tis gverdiT, raTa ,,warsul dro-
ebze dardi moviklaT” da samomav-
lo liders davuWiroT mxari.
qveynis, eris, Cveni moqalaqeebis
interesi yvelaferze maRla dava-
yenoT. Tu erTi jgufis interese-
bi meorisTvis misaRebi ar aris,
amis gamo erTmaneTs nu davajaxebT
maT. Tu yvelani Cveni SesaZleb-
lobebis, aRqmis unarisa da cod-
na-gamocdilebis mixedviT moviq-
ceviT, maSin aRar CavvardebiT so-
lomon isakiC mejRanuaSvilis
mdgomareobaSi, romelsac is ki
undoda, Tanamoqalaqeebs ,,operaSi
mosiarule kacad” CaeTvalaT, mag-
ram taSi rodis unda daekra, mis-
da samwuxarod, es ar icoda (,,ara
Sejda mwyeri xesa, ara iyo gvari
misi”).
esaubra Tamar SveliZe
`ero, guli wagsvlia da gagwyromia suli wminda, gonebaze rom moxvide
asi aliyuri ginda!~
14 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
`me SegpirdiT, rom Cven gavi-
marjvebdiT~ _ gavimarjveT ki-
dec!~ _ uraaa. (xalxi). `gaumar-
jos Cvens ukidegano samSoblos,
ruseTis didebas gaumarjos, Cveni
uzarmazari qveynis siZlieres ga-
umarjos!~ _ uraaa, uraaa, uraaa...
(xalxi.) am sityvebiT mimarTa `ma-
neJis~ moedanze aw ukve preziden-
tma vladimer vladimeris-Ze pu-
tinma Tavis amomrCevels da Tva-
lebze sixarulis cremli moiw-
minda.
scnobs Tu ar scnobs rusuli
opozicia msoflios `demokratiu-
li~ Tanamegobroba arCevnebis Se-
degebs vl. putins ruseTis moqa-
laqeTa 65 procentis xmaTa rao-
denoba `jibeSi~ udevs da ramdeni-
me dReSi, ruseTis prezidentobas
ukve mesame vadiT gaagrZelebs!
arada, oriode Tvis win ruseTis
did qalaqebSi gamarTul opozici-
is mitingebze naxevari msoflios
yuradReba revanSze iyo koncent-
rirebuli da winaswari prognoze-
biT varaudobdnen, rom _ Tuki xe-
lisufleba arCevnebs gaayalbebs,
ruseTSi `arabuli gazafxulis~
surnels davatrialebTo!
sagulisxmoa is faqti, rom
prezidentyofili dimitri medve-
devi da arCevnebSi dawinaurebuli
vl. putini gamarjvebis aRsaniSna-
vad swored iq mividnen, sadac
ramdenime kviris win, rusuli
opozicis liderebi da opoziciu-
rad ganwyobili mosaxleoba `mane-
Jis moedanze~ mravalaTasian mi-
tingebs marTavda da sadac imuqre-
bodnen, rom `rusi xalxi gayalbe-
bul arCevnebs ar Segueba da re-
volucias davupirispirebT gam-
yalbeblebs~-o!
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! ise,
gulze xeli daideT da TqviT _
ruseTSi 4 martis arCevnebiswina
viTareba, aq CvenTan, saqarTvelo-
Si, arCevnebiswina vnebaTaRelvebs
ar gagonebdaT?
sxvisi ar vici, mag-ram piradad me erTgva-ri kalkireba jer kidevmaSin SevniSne, rocaTeTri yelsaxvevebiTSemkuli boris nemcovi,anatoli kasrenko, vla-dimer Jirinovski, gena-
di ziuganovi, aleqseinavalni, mixeil proxo-rovi da sergei mirono-vi `balotniaze~ vixile!`balota~ _ qarTuladWaobs niSnavs da savara-udod, moskovis meriames adgili amitom gamo-uyo opozicias!).
srulebiT ar aris Cemi saqme
ra arCevani gaakeTa ruseTma, mag-
ram zemoTCamoTvlili adamianebi-
dan, ramdenime maTgans satelefo-
no urTierTobidan vicnob da Se-
miZlia, absoluturi gulwrfe-
lobiT giTxraT, rom RmerTma da-
ifara ruseTi, es adamianebi xeli-
suflebis saTaveSi amjeradac rom
ver movidnen! arada, ramdenime
wlis win zemoTaRniSnuli pirov-
nebebi, mag. boris nemcovi niJni
novgorodis olqis gubernatori
iyo, anatoli kasianenko _ pre-
mier-ministri, mixeil proxoro-
vi _ rusuli `demokratiis ma-
ma~-d wodebuli boris elcinis
xelSewyobiT `kapiks kapikze~
adebda da mdidrdeboda, sergei
mironovi putinis pirveli sap-
rezidento vadis periodSi ase-
ve premieri gaxldaT, xolo
sergei navalni, CvenTvis cnobi-
li cxinvalis 2008 wlis omis
periodSi gaxda da maSin man
qarTvelebis mimarT araerTi
qsenofobiuri gancxadebebic gaa-
keTa _`qarTvelebs jer kidev
sabWoTa droidan gamoyofili
siamaye da ampartavneba awvalebT
da rac male CavuklavT, miT
ukeTesi ruseTisTvis~-o!
CamoTvlilTagan boris nem-
covs yvelaze ukeT vicnob da
arasodes damaviwydeba misi cini-
kuri, xSirad uzrdeli gamoxto-
mebi qarTuli opoziciis misamar-
TiT, kerZod: `qarTuli opozicia
sustia da Tanac, Tu imas gaviTva-
liswinebT, rom dRes saakaSvils
opoziciaSi is xalxi hyavs, vinc
adre masTan erTad awyobda `var-
debis revolucias~ _ yvelaferi
naTeli xdeba! Cemi azriT, saakaS-
vils jerjerobiT xelisuflebis
dakargva ar emuqreba, imitom rom
arc sazogadoeba gazrdila im do-
nemde, cvlilebebi rom ganaxorci-
elos~, _ miTxra erT-erT inter-
viuSi man, magram aRniSnuli in-
tervius Cawera me, Jurnalist
irine gogosaSvils ra nervebis
fasad damijda, eg kidev calke aR-
niSvnis Rirsia... `gamarjoba, bato-
no boris~, _ mivesalme me. `kto
vam dal etot nomer?~ _ TiTqmis
damiyvira. `odin naS obSii znako-
mi, a Cto nelziabilo?~ _ vupasu-
xe ironiiT. `vi znaete dama, Cto
ia sCas na baseine, posle trenaJo-
rov i nekogda, ustal ia? ots-
tante poJalusto~, _ momaZaxa
nerviulad da yurmili damikida!
kidev davureke da vuTxari: `Cemi
azriT, ar iqneboda kargi qarTve-
li mkiTxvelisTvis aseT tonalo-
baSi gelaparakaT qarTvel Jurna-
listTan da gaZlevT Sanss, nor-
malurad viurTierToT-Tqo~. amis
Semdeg, (albaT, pirsaxocmoxveul-
ma) nemcovma interviu momca, mag-
ram, rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, man
cinikuri tonaloba airCia da mos-
kovis romeliRac sacurao auzi-
dan saakaSvils mSvidi Zili dau-
mesija, rac mogvianebiT axda ki-
dec! maSinac vTqvi da axlac vam-
bob _ boris nemcovi, rusuli e.w.
opoziciis `bidla~-a (tlu) nar-
cisi da uzrdeli adamiania,) igi
Tavisi TvisebebiT Zalian hgavs
Cvens `greCixas~, romelic Jurna-
listebTan zustad ase urTier-
Tobs! calke Temaa, vladimer Jir-
novski da misi damokidebuleba
qarTvelebisadmi... faqtia, is araC-
veulebrivi, sxarti respondentia,
ueWvelad ganaTebuli, zedmetad
`eqskluziuri~, magram `moia do-
rogaias~ miRma wminda wylis So-
vinistia da vimeoreb _ misi pre-
zidentoba ruseTisTvis aSkarad
safrTxis momtani iqneboda!
sxvisi ar vici, mag-ram piradad Cemi azriTu vinmes ainteresebs,getyviT, rom vinc Jurna-listebTan omobs, is yo-velTvis wagebuli rCe-ba da is warmateba, ro-melsac wuTierad zei-moben, xolme ramdenimeTveSi fermkrTaldeba!
TavSi giTxariT, rom rusuli
da qarTuli opoziciis msgavseba
iseTi aSkara iyo, rom Rimilsac
ki mgvrida-Tqo!
daviwyoT iqidan, rom rusebs
Tavidanve kremlis moSorebiT gamo-
uyves samitingo teritoria! ruseb-
mac TeTri feri airCies `revanSis~
win. avtomobilebis grZeli jaWvi,
gabmuli signali da manqanebze TeT-
ri lentebic igive iyo! dapatimre-
bebi, SeZaxilebi _ ̀ daloi putina~,
`rosia bez putina~, `skaJem puti-
nie-net~, `konec diktature~ da
`putin kiler, putin ubica~-c
zedmiwevniT hgavda TbilisSi, ba-
TumSi, quTaissa da mraval qala-
qebSi gamoitanil Cvens plakatebs
_ `Zirs saakaSvili~, `saqarTvelo
saakaSvilis gareSe~, `saakaSvils _
ara~! `diqtaturis dasasruli~,
`mkvlelo saakaSvilo~ da a.S. er-
Tia plakatebis teqstTa msgavseba
da meorea jiuti faqti imisa, rom
de faqto TbilisSic da moskovSic
isev im adamianebma ̀ gaimarjves~, vis
winaaRmdeg 20-gradusian yinvaSic
ki ar SevSinebulvarT! anu, de faq-
to saakaSvilic da putinic isev
xelisuflebaSi rCebian da metic,
win sasikeTo araferi Cans `demok-
ratiis~ TvalsazrisiT!
faqtia isic, rom ruseTSi pu-
tinis gamarjveba erTgvarad mosa-
lodneli ki iyo, imitom, rom bo-
ris elcinis mmarTvelobis Semdeg
moskovSi, peterburgSi da sxva
uamrav did qalaqebSi rigiTi ru-
sebis socialur-materialuri
mdgomareoba sagrZnoblad gaumjo-
besda da qarTvelebisgan gansxvave-
biT, ruseTSi, saSualo fena yo-
velgvari problemis gareSe Camo-
yalibda! ruseTSi marTalia ko-
rufcia isev arsebobs, magram pu-
tinis prezidentobis pirveli va-
didan moyolebuli dRemde, sapen-
sio Tanxa 260 dolaramdea (mini-
mum) gazrdili da komunaluri ga-
dasaxadebis TvalsazrisiT ki, yve-
laferi SesaSurad mowesrigebu-
li!
moskovsa da sxva qalaqebSi
Zalian bevri axlobeli myavs,
hoda, swored maTgan vici, rom
zamTris TveebSi gaTboba, cxeli
wyali, sadarbazos dasuTaveba,
nagavi da wylis gadasaxadi er-
TianobaSi, arc meti da arc nak-
lebi, TiToeul ojaxs 120 do-
laramde ujdeba da axla, roca
umuSevrobis done ruseTSi Cven-
Tan SedarebiT minimaluria, mix-
vdiT ra gansxvavebaa Cvens yofa-
sa da maT yofas Soris! Cemi bi-
ZaSvilis Svili tania ribakova
domodedovos aeroportSi muSa-
obs da iciT xelfasi ramdeni
aqvs, rigiTi ekonomistis rang-
Si? 5000 dolaramde! xolo mis
Zmas, _ kirils romelic, geode-
zistia da romelic amJamad soW-
Si olimpiadis mSeneblobazea
dakavebuli 7000 dolaramde
xelfass iRebs!
me `vardebis xelisufle-
bis~ mosvlis Semdeg iZulebiT
vcxovrobdi moskovSi da mSve-
nivrad vici, ra masStabebis
simdidrea iq da ra masStabebi-
saa aq, magram rusebi rom gam-
didrdnen da sul cota, dReSi
erTi ojaxi, minimum 100 do-
lars xarjavs, es namdvilad
vici? arc is aris tyuili,
rom msoflios yvela did sa-
kurorto qalaqebs rusebi
dRiTidRe `ipyroben~ turis-
tebis rangSi da arc is aris
tyuili, rom aseTi `gaseirne-
bebi~ aTasobiT dolari ujde-
baT! es ise, cnobisTvis...
`arCevnebi totalurad ga-
yalbebulia da Cven mis Sede-
gebs ar vcnobT! aTasobiT ada-
mians gamoviyvanT quCaSi da ar
davanebebT saakaSvils Cveni xmebis
miTvisebas, vaiZulebT meore turs
da swored meore turi iqneba mi-
si aRsasruli~, _ gvesmoda 2008-
07 wlis dekember-ianvarSi da
aqac siamis tyupebiviT hgavda er-
TmaneTs rusul-qarTuli `opozi-
cia!~ aseve tyupis caliviT hgavda
erTmaneTs rusul-qarTuli saxe-
lisuflebo arxebis ritorika!
telewamyvanebic ki ise hgavdnen
erTmaneTs JestebiT, metyvelebis
maneriT da cinikuri gamometyve-
lebiT rom ifiqrebdi _ amaT er-
Ti xelmZRvaneli xom ar hyavTo?
Zalian sasacilo iyo isic,
Cemi Zveli nacnobi`rusTavi 2~-is moskovisbiuros Jurnalisti Ta-mar gociriZe guSin da
xom vambobdi _mogenatraT vova? _waikuzeT, mova-Tqo?!
15#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
guSinwin SeSfoTebulisaxiT rom gviyvebodaeTerSi: `kremlis mimde-bare teritoria specda-niSnulebis razmebiT, mi-liciis kordonebiT davladimer putinis mxar-damWeri organizacia `na-SistebiT~ aris garSe-mortymuli~-o!
metic, gviyveboda, rom xeli-
suflebas avtobusebiT Camohyavda
mxardamWerebi, dafiqsirda `karuse-
lebi~, saarCevno urnebSi xmebis ma-
lulad Cayra da rac mTavaria,
Turme nu ityviT da... arCevnebSi
putinisTvis xmis misacemad ro-
gorc gaWirvebuli rusebisTvis
1000-1500 rublic daurigebiaTo!
Tamuna, CvenTanac zustad igive ar
xdeboda an ar moxdeba xvalac?
oRond am ubeduri qarTvelebisTvis
30-50 dolari ki ar miuciaT, ro-
gorc es ruseTSia, aramed imdeni,
ramdenic erT rigiT russ 1 puris
da erTi `kefiris~ sayidlad Tu
eyofoda! xom cnobilia, rom CvenSi
5-10-15-20 laria maqsimaluri
`stavka?~
axla spec.razmebs, xelisufle-
bis mxardamWerebs, policias da ze-
moqmedebis manqanebs rac Seexeba...
me ar maxsendeba, ruseTSi rome-
lime demonstracia ise daerbioT,
ise gaeTiSaT da daewamlaT xalxi,
rogorc aq saqarTveloSi! arc is
maxsendeba, vinmesTvis darbevis
dros sicocxle moeswrafebinaT da
arc is maxsendeba, romelime momi-
tinge-gardacvlilisTvis xorxi
amoeWraT, anda `dendartymulis~
iarliyi miewebebinoT! rac Cven
2007 weli noemberSi 2011 wlis
maisSi gvirtyes da dagvwamles,
2012 wlis moskovis aqciebi imasTan
ra mosatania an masStabebiT, anda
xelisuflebis mxridan `humanuro-
bis~ TvalsazrisiT?
`nwu, nwu, nwu, karuselebic
davafiqsireT, magaliTad, dafiqsir-
da, rogor ukanonod miaRebines ka-
ruselSi monawileoba jars~-o, _
hyveboda `rusTavi 2~-is meore ko-
respondenti WavWavaZe da ra naxa
iseTi, aq rom ar gvinaxavs da ar
dagvifiqsirebia?~
maSinac vwerdi da ax-lac vimeoreb _ 2008 wlissaparlamento arCevneb-Si, gubaz sanikiZis Stab-Si quTaisSi vakvirdebo-di arCevnebs rogorcJurnalisti da saRamos,vidre ubnebs daxuravd-nen, daaxloebiT saRamos7 saaTze 50-mde jariska-ci ise Camoaqroles ub-nebze, gegoneboda `nac.moZraobis~ kandidatiskako boboxiZis tyveobi-dan dasaxsnelad mihyav-To!
is ki arada, saarCevno ubnebTan
rom `siebiani~ qalebi daZrwodnen
da gvlanZRavdnen, dagvaviwyda?
vimeoreb sakvirvelia da Zalian
sasacilo _ saqarTvelos e.w. xeli-
sufleba, misi televiziebi, eqsper-
tebi, arasamTavroboebi da `sifaTe-
bi~ ruseTis arademokratiulad Ca-
tarebul arCevnebze komentarebs
rom akeTeben da igeslebin, radgan
vis-vis da maT namdvilad ar unda
swyindeT putinis me-3 `krugze~ Se-
mobruneba, imitom rom, yvela sike-
Te, rac 2003 wlis noembris Sem-
deg miuRiaT, swored putinis ̀ lan-
ZRviT~ eRirsaT!
saakaSvilis da putinis msgavse-
baze bevri ram Tqmula da daweri-
la, magram verc erTi qarTveli
Jurnalisti ver bedavda im gansxva-
vebul, Rirseul Tvisebebze elapa-
raka, rac vladimer putins axasia-
Tebs, saakaSvilisgan gansxvavebiT...
pirveli da upirvelesi ki is
aris, rom putinma ar dauSva anti-
rusuli, antimarTlmadidebluri
da antierovnuli ucxouri desan-
tis katapultireba ruseTis miyru-
ebul regionebSic ki.
putinma, marTalia, samwuxarod
da Cvens xarjze, magram 21 sauku-
neSic SesZlo Tavisi ukidegano
qveynisTvis mieerTebina kidev ori
teritoria afxazeTis da samaCab-
los saxiT!
putinma ekonomikurad aRorZina
da gaamdidra ruseTis moqalaqeTa
socialuri statusi!
putinis ruseTis moqalaqeebs
ucxoeTSi veravin verafers ubedavs
da rogorc ityvian, maT `bananis
respublikis~ moqalaqeTa statusiT
aravin moixsenieben! putinis umaR-
lesi xelisuflebis warmomadgen-
lebs, diplomatebs da rigiT Cinov-
nikebs, rigi qveynebis liderebi ar
alodineben, misaReb-kabinetebSi ar
dascinian da metic, yvela `sike-
Tes~ umal uZRvnian, emand araferi
ewyinoTo!
putinis xelisuflebis warmo-
madgenlebi ver bedaven iseT saqci-
els, romelic araTu qveyanas, ara-
med pirovnulad maT imijs daazara-
lebs, ar daexetebian mTels deda-
miwaze dRedaRam, ar xarjaven mili-
onobiT dolars da a.S.
anu, amiT imis Tqma minda, rom
vladimer putini Tavisi qveynis
patriotia da Cven mogvwons es Tu
ar mogvwons, is mxedarTmTavaria,
romelic Tavis jars win ar gaasw-
rebs da SeSinebuli miwaSi cxviriT
ar CaerWoba? halstuxs ar SeWams
da `vai, deda, vai, dedao~ ar iyvi-
rebs mTeli msoflios dasanaxad!
`ar minda samoTxe, momeciT Cemi
samSoblo~!-o citirebda sergei
esenins putini da Tvalze creml-
moreuli madlobas uZRvnida mili-
onobiT rus amomrCevels `maneJis~
moedanze. putinis politikuri sam-
Soblo ki sabWoTa kavSiri iyo da
Tu sergei esenini sityvebs: `sam-
Soblo damibruneTo~ sul sxva
datvirTviT saubrobda, vladimer
putinma zustad is datvirTva mis-
ca, romlis aRdgenac arc aravisT-
vis daumalavs da arc sityvis masa-
lad uxmaria!
vladimer putinma pirvel sap-
rezidento vadaSi aRadgina sabWoTa
kavSiris himni da mas axla _ ru-
seTis federaciis himni hqvia! swo-
red pirvel vadaSi dagvisva Tavisi
xelis biWi miSa saakaSvili prezi-
dentad da imedad xvalis `yverebiT
dakidebs~ gadaarCina premier minis-
trad yofnis dros! `soiuz neruSi-
mi, respublik svobodnix~ _ gax-
sovT xom?
meore saprezidento vadaSi ki
ruseTisTvis saSiSi regionis Crdi-
lo-kavkasielTa daSoSmineba SesZ-
lo! mesame vadiT arCeuli vova ras
izams advili amosaxsnelia, radgan
win soWis olimpiadaa, samxreTis
regionSi stabiluroba sWirdeba da
saakaSvili, stabilurobis Tval-
sazrisiT rom `ver laves~ tipia,
esec kargad moxseneba! Tanac vova
axla uvizo okupantia da fexebze
ar hkidia?
ase rom, vidre `Cveni~ gauyal-
bebeli arCevnebi mogviaxlovdeba,
win bevri usiamovno Tu `sasiamov-
no~ siurprizebi elis saqarTve-
los, rogorc e.w. amerikis partni-
or qveyanas!
ise, ra simboluri iyo isic,
rom ruseTis arCevnebSi egzitpo-
lebis winaswari monacemebis gacxa-
debis dros kosmosSi 2012 wlis 4
marts gaSvebuli raketa amerikis
Tavze imyofeboda Turme da vladi-
mer putinis gamarjvebas winaswar
zeimobdnen misi mxardamWerebi?
ho, sul damaviwyda _am Cvenma `qarTulma~ ar-xebma erTi vai uSvelebe-li rom atexes, jer xmebiar daTvlila da putinissaarCevno StabSi, ukveSampanurebs svameno _ raegre ar aris yovelTvis`nacebis~ StabebSic ne-bismieri arCevnebisas?
adre davwere: `mogenatraT vo-
va? waikuzeT mova-iqo~, magram ax-
la mdgomareoba SedarebiT rTulia
da ase vityodi: `gaimarjva vovam,
wavikuzoT, ueWvelad movaa!!! da es
logikuric iqneba, radgan `sabWoTa
nacionaluri~ xelisufleba xan mi-
unxenSi, xan moskovSi, xan JenevaSi
da xanac aq, TbilisSi, Cum-Cumad
ekurkureba okupanti qveynis umaR-
lesi eSelonebis warmomadgenlebs
da ras moimoqmedebs xval, vfiqrob,
marCielobad arc Rirs!
rac Seexeba ruseTSi dawyebul
saprotesto talRas... rogorc
cnobilia da Cvenc araerTgzis gvi-
naxavs, talRa napirze iSleba,
sustdeba da droTa ganmavlobaSi
sul qreba, ase rom, axali cunami
ruseTSi gamoricxulia, miTumetes
gamarjvebuli putinis ruseTSi da
ramdenic ar unda vakritikoT Cven
is _ sul fexebze hkidia!
irine gogosaSvili
SesaZloa, 2012 wlis 4 mar-
ti saqarTvelosTvis mniSvnelo-
van TariRad darCes, radgan am
dRes aWaraSi, kerZod ki baTum-
Si istoriuli samarTlianobi-
saTvis mebrZoli mrevlis didi
Sekreba Sedga, romelsac meufe
dimitri SiolaSvili da musli-
mi aWarlebis sulieri lideri,
mufti jemal paqsaZe erTad mi-
uZRodnen!
mkiTxvels emaxsovreba, rom
`saerTo gazeTis~ erT-erT pub-
likaciaSi `aWara didi Turqo-
bis zRvarze~, me, Jurnalisti
irine gogosaSvili gamovTqvamdi
sakuTar azrs imis Sesaxeb, rom
Tuki marTlmadidebeli mrev-
lis, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos
da 300 wlis win muslimuri
religiis msxverpli, Cveni Zir-
Zveli qristianebi, aw muslimi
aWarlebi erToblivad ar ga-
laSqrebdnen baTumSi sulTan
azizies saxelobis meCeTis mSe-
neblobis winaaRmdeg, saqarTve-
los moRalate xelisufleba
ufro Sors wavidoda da Tur-
qeTis, rogorc partniori qvey-
nis xelisuflebis nebismier
kaprizs daakmayofilebda da ar
gaiTvaliswinebda im mosaxleo-
bis azrs, romelTac Turquli,
uiaraRo eqspansia aWaraSi, ai,
ukve 9 welia sakuTar tyavze
iwvnies!
marTalia, qarTulma e.w.
`damoukidebelma~ satelevizio
arxebma es protesti Cveulebi-
samebr miCqmales da mxolod 3-
wuTiani siuJetiT Semoifargl-
nen, magram saqarTvelom mainc
Seityo am mamuliSviluri, pat-
riotuli saprotesto Tavyri-
lobis Sesaxeb da sruliad sa-
marTlianad _ umaRlesi Sefase-
bac misca.
baTumSi 4 marts gamarTul
Sekrebas, rogorc Sematyobines,
daaxloebiT, 4000-mde morwmune
qristani da muslimi aWarlebi
eswrebodnen. miuxedavad cudi
amindisa, Tovlisa da sicivisa,
mTeli aWaridan Sekrebili ada-
mianebi erTi da igive frazas
warmosTqvamdnen _ araviTar
SemTxvevaSi ar davuSvebT, rom
saqarTvelos da ruseTis xeli-
suflebam, araTu sulTan azizi-
es saxelobis meCeTi, aramed
sul mcire muzeumic ki aaSeno-
no. isic macnobes, rom uaxlo-
es xanSi ufro farTomasStabia-
ni aqcia igegmeba da am aqciaze
moqalaqeebi saqarTvelos sxva-
dasxva kuTxidanac Cavlen, rac
udavod sasixarulo faqtia!
gansakuTrebiT aRsaniSnavia
is faqti, rom aWarisa da sxal-
Tis eparqiam, rogorc iqna daZ-
lia SiSi, ixmo sakuTari mrev-
li da aWaris `ganmanTavisufle-
beli~ giJis miSa saakaSvilis
Tavxedur, muxanaTur da moRa-
latebriv zraxvas osmanTa impe-
riis erT-erTi jalaTis, dampy-
robeli sulTan azizies saxe-
lobis meCeT-muzeumis aRdgenas
win aRudga.
madloba meufe dimitris
amisaTvis!
madloba marTlmadideblur
mrevls aWaraSi da rac mTava-
ria, madloba muslimTa suli-
er liders aWaraSi, ZirZvel
qristians, patriot aWarel
kacs, mufti jemal paqsaZes, ro-
melmac religiuri mrwamsi
gverdze gadado da deda-samSob-
los, qristianuli religiis ak-
vnis aWaris xelmeore religiu-
ri eqspansiis winaaRmdeg vaJka-
curad gailaSqra!
sagulisxmoa isic, Sekrebil
sazogadoebaSi arsad Candnen po-
litikosebi da maT Soris yofi-
li `respublikeli~ murman dum-
baZe, romelic ara mxolod `sa-
zogadoebriv~ arxze, aramed ne-
bismieri media saSualebebiT da-
ufaravad acxadebda, rom azizi-
es meCeTis ageba _ baTumSi ara-
viTar SemTxvevaSi ar moxdeba
da xelisuflebam ifiqros ama-
zeo! Zalianac kargia, rom 4
martis aqciaze baTumSi arc
Tbilisidan CabrZanebuli poli-
tikosebi ar daswrebian, radgan
aRniSnuli aqcia `politikose-
bis~ sapiaro adgilad ver ga-
modgeboda da metic, Cemi az-
riT, xelsac ki SeuSlida im Ca-
nafiqrs, romelic sisruleSi
aucileblad mosayvania!
marTalia, am aqcias `marTl-
madideblobis zeimi~ daerqva,
magram vfiqrob, aravis ar Se-
parvia eWvi imaSi, rom sinamdvi-
leSi es, utyvad da mravlismT-
qmelad Sekrebili morwmunee-
bis saprotesto, gamafrTxile-
beli mitingi iyo. saqarTvelos
xelisuflebad wodebuli, Tvi-
Tmarqvia da damnaSaveTa xrova,
ki, rac male gaisigrZeganebs ra
procesebi SeiZleba mohyves maT
sijiutes, azizies meCeTis age-
basTan dakavSirebiT, advili
saprognozoa!
kidev erTxel madloba
aWarlebs da im yvela patri-
ots, romlebic win aRudgnen
dampyrobelis `Zeglis~ dadgmas
aWaraSi.
am mamuliSvilur saqmeSi Tu
`saerTo gazeTsac~ miuZRvis um-
ciresi wvlili, maSin didi mad-
loba Cvens redaqtor vaxtang
xarCilavasac, radgan yovelTvis
maZlevs saSualebas, msgavs sa-
kiTxebze Riad, yovelgvari mi-
kibv-mokibvis da saredaqcio
cenzuris gareSe vesaubro Cems
mkiTxvels!
ppaattiivviisscceemmiiTT
irine gogosaSvili
marTlmadideblobisdRe aWaraSi
16 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
bavSvi yvelafer bavSvuris-
saTamaSo traqtorebis, velosipe-
dis, TanaezoelebTan TamaSis da
dedis alersis danaklissac ro-
desac ganicdis, zrdasrul asakSi
dakompleqsebuli, tirani, diqta-
tori da xandaxan sadistic xde-
ba. am movlenas, ase fsiqologebi,
fsiqiatrebi da seqsopaTologebi
xsnian. “arasrulfasovani bavSvo-
bis sindromiT” gaizarda kaligu-
laca da neronic, romlebmac Ta-
visi cxovrebis zenitSi umaRles
Tanamdebobebsa da ganuzomel
Zlauflebasac miaRwies, magram
kacobriobis istorias tiranad,
garyvnilad, msoflio itorias ki
saZraxis stereotipebad SemorC-
nen. aseTi pirovnebebisTvis rTu-
li da warmoudgenelia im “sike-
Teebis” daTmoba, romelsac daum-
saxureblad miaRwies. “daumsaxu-
reblad misakuTrebis” mudmivi
SegrZneba ki sisastikiT TviTdam-
kvidrebis survilsa da gaorebis
grZnobas badebs.
Sesavali mkiTxvelisTvis pre-
zident saakaSvilis sapartalemen-
to angariSis ukeT gasagebad gava-
keTe, radgan misi gamosvla, SeSi-
nebuli, dabneuli kacis abdaub-
das ufro hgavda, vidre Tavis
TavSi dajerebuli “didi refor-
matorisa” da “msofliosgan mxar-
daWerili” prezidentisas. mayu-
reblma cxadad dainaxa, rom sa-
qarTvelos amJamindeli preziden-
tis “saqme ukve wasulia”. Cveuli
ukbilo oxunjobebis, emociuri
tonalobis, sityvebis ylapvisa da
Jestikulaciis fonze, yvelaferi
imaze miuTiTebda, rom saakaSvi-
lisTvis Zalauflebis datoveba,
(Tu ukve ar gamxdara), SesaZloa
fsiqiuri problemebis safuZve-
lic gaxdes. Tavisive sityvebsac
saakaSvili araerTxel gauyidia
da am gamosvlaSic ase daemarTa.
xelisuflebisa da saxelisufle-
bo mediis mxridan mudmivi ironi-
zebis miuxedavad, ivaniSvilis
faqtorma, xalxis misadmi mxarda-
Weram, saakaSvili ise gvarianad
SeaSfoTa, rom sCans “biZina iva-
niSvilobac” Tavad moisurva da
Tavisi, “saakaSvilis ocnebis”
prezentacias Seecada. man TiTqmis
15-jer mainc axsena sityva “ocne-
ba.” yvelanairad Seecada daemtki-
cebina, rom Tu vinmes “rameze oc-
neba” SeuZlia saqarTveloSi _ es
swored saakaSvilia?! rac yvela-
ze sainteresoa, misgan warmodge-
nili samomavlo gegemebi erTi er-
Tze emTxveoda im dargobrivi
jgufebis Tematikas, razec “qar-
Tul ocnebaSi” specialitebi mu-
Saoben. eWvebic imaze, rom xeli-
sufleba “qarTul ocnebaSi” Se-
mogzavnili emisrebiTa da mosame-
ni mowyobilobebiT, mudmivad
“qarTul ocnebaSi” mimdinare
procesebis miyuradebis mcdelo-
baSia _ kidev erTxel gamarTlda.
es ki imaze miuTiTebs, rom saakaS-
vils “gasrolil tyviasaviT” eSi-
nia biZina ivaniSvilis. pirvelive
frazidanac: ”mogesalmebiT bolo-
jer, rodesac am darbazSi vimyo-
febiTo. . .” _ im qvecnobieri Si-
Sis gamJRavneba iyo, romelmac ase
gaagiJa da kargad icis, rom misi
es gamosvla namdvilad boloa!
“sxva darbazic”, SesaZloa, sasa-
marTlo darbazi da sabraldebo
skami aRmoCndes da ara quTaisis
axali parlamenti. amitom, yvela
logikis, konstituciis, xalxis
zizRisa da saerTaSoriso reko-
mendaciebis miuxedavad, icis ra,
rom 2013 wlis Semdeg, xelisuf-
lebaSi “misi duxi” aRar unda
iyos, mainc sul 2015 wels axse-
nebda. es iyo mudara: “2015 wlam-
de mainc damtoveT “biZiebo da de-
idebo”_ klintono da obamao”.
cxvirze xelis gasma da sityvebis
ylapvac misgan ar axalia, magram
aseTi abdaubda metyveleba, “suf-
loiorebiT kiTxvis” miuxedavad
yoveli meore sityvis ylapva uk-
ve imis niSania, rom am ubeduris
saqme, amjerad marTlac cudaa!
marTalia, Cveuli demagogiiT “ag-
zavna mesijebi” dasavleTiskenac.
miusamZimra, eraySi mxolod misi
“qvemZromobis politikiT” daRu-
pul 16 jariskacs: “isini aZli-
ereben qveyanas, SeiaraRebul Za-
lebso”. (oRond visas?) “gaZli-
rebuli SeiaraRebis” sardali
gorSi rom forTxavs da daRu-
pulTa ricxvic oficialurze
bevrad metia _ esec araferi? in-
glisis mefe henrix I-ma, im srul-
wlovanTaTavis, romelnic omSi
gawvevaze SiSiT uars acxadeben
“SiSis gadasaxadi” daawesa. Cvenc,
biujetis Sesavsebad, Tanac roca
“srulwlovani mTavrsardali da
prezidentia”, “forTxvisa da wi-
Tel xidze gamquslavTa” maRali
gadasaxadis daweseba gvawyenda?
revolucia “klanuri diqaturis
aRmosafxvrelad, namdvili demok-
ratiisa da Tanasworobis, tota-
luri korufciisa da kanonis
uzenaesobiT Casanacvleblad gvin-
dodao” rom icrupentela. kacebs
“davaginebinoT”, Tu rogor davum-
tkicoT, rom swored am yvelaf-
ris saTavisod gasamayareblad mo-
vida? Tumca bolo angariSis Sem-
deg, ukve imdeni aginebs, rom es
ginebac “dedis rZesaviT” Seerge-
ba. “Zalian bevri saqme gvaqvs da-
samTavrebelio”. (albaT saqarTve-
losTvis saboloo “dedis tire-
bas” Tu gulisxmobda). saakaSvi-
lis srul agoniaze, mis metyve-
lebaSi axali terminebis gaCenac
miuTuTebda. Tu adre, “yvelaferi
pirvelad saqarTvelos istoriaSi
xdeboda”, axla saukunovan masS-
tabebs gadaswvda: “ukanaskneli
aTaswleulebis manZilze, rogorc
arsadros vgrZnobT yinulis daZv-
raso”. mTeli saerTaSoriso media
da presa krizisis axal talRaze
da iranTan mosalodnen omze saub-
robs, aman ki “omi da msoflio
krizisic warsuls Caabara...”.
wels “Cveni ekonomikac 67%-iT
gazrdila”?!. “sakmarisi ar aris,
magram metia, vidre dasavleTSi”
da “orjer meti” yofila vidre
ruseTSi. “planetis saukeTeso
qveyana” planetarul masStabebze
gasvla ki, saakaSvilis paranoida-
luri agoniis kidev erTi siax-
lea. Semdgomi etapi “galaqtikis
doneze saakaSvilis reformebis
aRiareba” iqneba. 100 000-ze me-
ti Turquli kompaniebis daregis-
trireba, maSin roca qarTvel me-
warmeebs “axrCobs”, “biznesis ke-
Tebis simartived” agvix-
sa. 3000 000 tursitis
momsaxurebisTvis (ofi-
ciantobisTvis, seqsua-
luri momsaxureobisT-
vis, ukanalis gawmendis-
Tvis, fexsacmlis gapri-
alebisTvis) Seqmnili
samuSao adgilebi ki
samsaxuriT uzrunvel-
yofad gaaforma. SeS-
lil gamometyvelebaSi
kargad ikiTxeboda: ”ar
gindaT es biZina, ager
ara var me” _ “Tqveni
ocnebao”. “me xazs vus-
vam, ara imitom, rom mo-
vipovo Tqveni keTilgan-
wyoba an TviTkmayofilma moviwo-
no Tavi Tqvens winaSe”. arada
zustad ase romaa miSiko? “sasi-
cocxlod miniSnvnelovania, Tqven
mudmivad moiTxovoT pasuxi xal-
xisTvis micemul yvela dapirebis
Sesrulebaze. es exeba warsulSi
gakeTebul dapirebebsac da maT,
romlis Sesaxebac dRes mogaxse-
nebTo.” gexsomebaT saakaSvilis
gancxadebac _ “opoziciaSi me rom
viyo, xelisuflebas sam TveSi da-
vamxobdio”? oqtombramde or-
jer sami Tvea da saakSvili axla
axali opozciis liderad Tu mog-
vevlina da darbazSi msxdom par-
laments mosTxova pasuxi “gakeTe-
bul saqmeebze”- mere naxeT Tqven!
Wkua dauSlis, Tu gvariSviloba?
2015 wlisTvis, Cveni mosaxleo-
bis 75%-ze meti iqneba gazifici-
rebuli da dawyebuli 15 hesis
mSeneblobasac 2015 wlisTvis
dagvimTavrebs. (2015 wlamde ki
mokaliT da ar midis) visac jon
perkinsis “ekonomikuri mkvlelis
aRsareba” waukiTxavs da prezi-
dentobamde saakaSvilis hitleris
“main kampfiT” gatacebazec smenia,
advilad mixvdeba, rom am aSenebu-
li hesebidan qarTveli xalxi da
saqarTvelo, ekologiis gaoxrebis
garda verafers miiRebs. gayiduli
eleqtroenergiidan miRebuli fo-
lic, isev saakaSvilis ojaxis ji-
beebSi daileqeba. gazifikacia ki
“main kampfis” moyvaruls “mosax-
leobis gaziT gagudvad” SeiZleba
esmodes. bunebriv airSic, haeris
sanacvlod, im nivTierebas aRar
umateben, romelsac gazis gaJon-
vis SemTxvevaSi suni aqvs. gaziT
gagudvis amdeni SemTxvevac amitom
gaxSirda. “sabaqibuqo saavadmyo-
foebsac”, rogorc erTxel ukve
mogaxseneT, am bolos dros, wina
da ukana Sesavlelidan or-orjer
xsnis xolme. Aaxla xedavT, es ra
dReSi Caugdia “es patiosani ka-
ci” biZina ivaniSvils? ra dReSi
aqvs am sacodavs nervebi, rom
“prezidentma kacma”, sajaro tri-
bunidan, jer skolis moswavles
eZaxa xuligani, mere ki aSS-s el-
Cisac ar moerida da pirdapir
parlamentSi baRaTuriasTan “qu-
Curi garCeva” daiwyo. magram qu-
Cac rom ar icis da baRaTurias-
gan, deputatobisas ybaSi monax-
vedric rom kargad axsovs, amitom
gavarda darbazidan _ “mamas vety-
vio”? gareT uTxres: “biWo, jer
prezidenti xar, sul xom ar ga-
gifrenia, ukan Sebrundio”.
ukve ise auria, rom gvimtki-
ca miwis damuSavebis nacvlad
glexma qveyanac da Tavic turiz-
mis momsaxurebiT unda arCinoso.
“turizmiT ayvavebuli soflis
meurneoba planetaze pirvelad
Cven unda SevqmnaTo”. Semdeg ukve
is frazebi wamovida, rasac sazo-
gadoebis ZiriTad fenaSi gaigebT
xolme _ “xvalindeli dRis Si-
Si”. aq isev “biZina ivaniSilis
faqtori” CairTo miSas tvinSi,
“sufliors gadauxvia” da “nu ge-
SiniaT da gqondeT xvalindeli
dRis imedi, amas sakuTar tyavze
igrZnobs male yvelao”. es “nu
geSiniaT” sakuTari TavisTvis Se-
moZaxebas ufro hgavda, Torem
qarTvelma xalxma “miSas imedad
yofna” rac aris, swored “sauTar
tyavze”_ karga xania SeigrZno!
“yvelaze mZime gamocdasac Cvenma
ekonomikam”, (unda vigulisxmoT),
rom “Ìàëåíêàÿ Âåðà“-ss (qobali-
as) daxamrebiT gauZlo. 2015
wlisTvis, “2 000 000-iT gazr-
dili damsveneblebisa da turis-
tebis ricxvma, axal-axali hese-
bis, gzebis, qalaqebis, kurorte-
bisa da ekonomikuri centrebis
mSeneblobis survilma, yvelas
daanaxa, rom es kaci ukve “sxva
galaqtikaSi dafrinavs” da “ga-
naTlebis xarisxis amaRlebac 5
axali profesiuli kolejis gax-
sna” hgonia, sadac albaT, isev
mona-mosamsaxure oficiantebs mo-
amzadeben. erTi sityva ar uTqvams
mecnierebis ganviTarebaze, kul-
turasa da kulturul memkvidre-
obaze, radgan kultura misgan
iseve Sorsaa, rogorc “virisgan
pitna”. skolebSi fizika-qimiis
laboratoriebis gaxsnasac dagv-
pirda, ra drosac universtitet-
Si da kvleviT centrebSi arsebu-
li laboratoriebi gaauqma. ase-
Tive crupentelobiT ilayba uax-
lesi teqnologiiT aRWurvili
skolebis gaxsnaze. 1000 skolis
gayidvis, Semdeg, axla 23-is gax-
sna albaT “ didi mamuliSviluri
saqme” hgonia. “iq sadac yofila
codna, yofila dasaqmebac”. (“iq
sadac adre kioda tura, Cven ga-
vaSeneT Cais kultura” ) am
dros, “saqarTvelos codnac
hqonda” da mis moqalaqeebs _ sam-
saxurebic, magram swored “maikl-
ma”, Tavis mosvliT mouspo es
yvelaferi. isev 2015 wlisTvis
bavSvebis 90%-s pirad kompiut-
rebs dahpirda. Turme “codnis
asamaRleblad” Camohyavs ucxoe-
li maswavleblebi da es yofila
“qarTuli enis swavlisTvis da
yvela mSoblis ocneba”. saqarTve-
loSi yvela mSobeli mxolod
imaze ar ocnebobs, rogorme maT
Svilebs “fleTCerisnairi maswav-
lebeli” da 53-e skolis direq-
toris msgavsi _ “lamazi bavSve-
bis moyvaruli dirqtorebi” hyav-
des? “nu geSiniaT, radgan me, ro-
gorc Tqvens mier arCeul or
prezidents, kargad mesmis. ar va-
pireb Cemi moRvaweoba Sevafaso
“eqselis” failebSi Cawerili
cifrebiTo”. ise ar eTmoba prezi-
dentoba, rom ramdenia _ amaSic
veRar erkveva. “aRmaSenebeli” uk-
ve xom iyo. axla SesaZloa “or-
Taviani gveleSeapic” hgonia Tavi.
(fsiqiatriaSi es pirovnebis gao-
rebaa).
“ase dagvaimeda”
kacma, romelmac gaa-
ubedura aTasobiT
adamiani, ZaZebiT Se-
mosa asobiT ded-ma-
ma, gayida qarTuli
miwa-wyali, Caabara
kodoris xeoba da
samaCablos regioni,
qarTul enas, albaT,
pirvelad da imedia
ukanasknelad saqar-
Tvelos istoriaSi
arnaxuli Seurcxa-
yofa miayena. darbaz-
Si mjdom uwmindesi-
sadmi mliqvnelobis
miuxedavad am namusgarecxilsa
da “xalxis did imeds” arc re-
ligiis antisaxelmwifoebrivi ka-
nonis miRebis gamo da arc azize-
is meCeTis qarTveli xalxis une-
barTvod mSeneblobis Tanxmobaze
mouxdia bodiSi. sul “tanze Se-
moixia” soflis meurneobis asay-
vaveblad, romelic “qveynis suli
da guli” rom aris, mas Semdeg
gaaxsenda, rac glexebs 2000 la-
rad vazi aCexvina, “badagonis
Rvino” saqveynod gadaasxa, saxna-
vi miwebi, saZovrebi, tyeebi da
mdinareebi gauyida. saklavze “Co-
Celis monopolia” dauwesa da
ulukmapurod datova. ivaniSvi-
lis traqtorebis Temamde traq-
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`vardosnebma~ axali proeqti
SemogvTavazes _`daicavi Seni sax-
li~.
es iTvaliswinebs teritori-
ul-nebayoflobiT rezervSi 5-dRi-
an gaerTianebas. proeqtis saagita-
cio samuSaoebi ukve daiwyo. maT
mTeli qveynis masStabiT gaerTia-
nebuli, specrazmebis xelmZRvane-
li koba axvlediani atarebs. misi
gancxadebiT ukve Catarebulia
300-mde Sexvedra. rogorc Cveni
respodenti giuli abSilava acxa-
debs, erT-erT Sekrebas isic esw-
reboda, zugdidis #1 saSualo
skolaSi, rogorc erT-erTi mos-
wavlis mSobeli.
momxsenebelma axvledianma pa-
suxi ver gasca kiTxvebs, ra rao-
denobiT momzaddeba rezervi yo-
velwliurad, ra raodenobis Tanxa
iqneba saWiro proeqtis gansaxor-
cieleblad da sad iqneba is moZi-
ebuli. pasuxgaucemeli darCa
kiTxvebi, Tu arsebobs `5-dRiani~
rezervis momzadebis koncefcia.
ratom aris es proeqti amovardni-
li `samxedro rezervis Sesaxeb~
arsebul kanonTan. axvledianma ver
Tu ar daakonkreta vin awarmoebs
rezervistebis aRricxvianobas _
Tavdacvis saministro Tu adgi-
lobrivi mmarTvelobiTi organoe-
bi.
samagierod, axvlediani da misi
mobiluri gundi aqtiur zewolas
anxorcieleben sajaro skolebis
direqtorebze, romelTac davale-
buli hqondaT Sexvedras Svileb-
Tan erTad mamebic daswrebodnen.
abSilavas gadmocemiT, axvle-
dianma proeqts qveynis usafrTxo-
ebis gazrdisaken gadadgmuli nabi-
ji uwoda. gamomsvlelis ganmarte-
biT, `5-dRiani~ rezervi nebayof-
lobiTi iqneba. es ki mimarTulia
imisaken. `rom `Cven
vqmniT gasamxedroebul
saxelmwifos~.
axvledianis gamosvla
cudad eniSnaT `mxedrio-
nis gadavlas gamovlil~
zugdidelebs: `rezervga-
movlili adamiani ukeTe-
sad daicavs Tavis quCas,
ubans, qalaqs. rezervis-
tebs, SesaZlebelia, iara-
Ric davurigoT da saxl-
Sic gavatanoT. radganac
maxsendeba is dro, rode-
sac xalxi TofiT Tu
uTofod, SiSveli xele-
biT icavda quCasa da
ubans... yvela ubans davu-
niSneT meTaurebi (xom ar gagonebT
avadmosagonar `saZmoebs~ _ z.b.),
romlebic xalxis mieraa arCeuli
da ara adgilobrivi TviTmmarTve-
lobis mier. `mxedrionis~ Seqmnis
msgavsad xelisuflebas ganzraxu-
li aqvs axvledianis xeliT Seqm-
nas kriminalTa seriozuli gaer-
Tianeba.
_`maT vinc samxedro savalde-
bulo samsaxuris kontraqtebi da-
arRvies, daekisraT jarimebi da
sxvadasxva sanqciebi nebayoflobiT
rezervSi gawevrianebis Semdeg yve-
lafrisagan Tavisufldebian. yvela
im adamians, romelsac aqvs nasamar-
Tleoba an pirobiTi sasjeli, un-
da mieceT saSualeba emsaxuron
samSoblos. (ase iqmneboda patrio-
tuli gasamxedroebuli organiza-
cia `mxedrioni~) 90-iani wlebis
samarTldamcavebi avleben ra para-
lels mxedrionisa da rezerviste-
bis proeqts Soris acxadeben, rom
axvlediani Tavisi gamosvlebiT
adasturebs, rom mas kavSirebi aqvs
yofil sisxlis samarTlis damna-
SaveebTan (`zvidistebTan~, `mxed-
rionelebTan~, `tyis ZmebTan~) aer-
Tianebs maT da xelisuflebis dax-
marebiTa da miTiTebiT Tavis kon-
trolis qveS moqcevas cdilobs.
koba axvlediani mosaxleobas
arwmunebs, rom rezervistebis
`proeqti~ ar aris arCevnebisaTvis
an sabrZolo moqmedebebis wamowye-
bisaTvis SeZenili. es mTeli saqar-
Tvelos mosaxleobis gaerTianebis
ideis matarebelia.
kanonis `sarezervo samsaxuris
gavlis~ gverdis avlas axvlediani
imiT xsnis, rom aqamde arsebulma
sarezervo modelebma (amerikuli,
israelis), ar gaamarTla da saWi-
roa Svedur-finur modelze gadas-
vla. magram amas, rom kanonSi
cvlilebebi sWirdeba, axvlediani-
saTvis mniSvneloba ara aqvs.
ra Sedegs unda velodoT
saqarTvelos konstituciis me-
ToTxmete muxli moiTxovs kanonm-
deblisagan Tanasworobis ZiriTadi
principebis dacvas. kerZod, ar da-
uSvas uTanasworo mopyroba Tanas-
wor mdgomareobaSi myofi pirebis
mimarT. ar miiRos iseTi sakanonm-
deblo aqtebi, romlebic ar iTva-
liswinebs sxvadasxva rwmenis, Se-
xedulebebis da a.S. jgufebs So-
ris arsebul gansxvavebebs da maT
mimarT Tanabar valdebulebebs ad-
gens.
saxalxo damcvelis aparatma
Sesuli gancxadebebis safuZvelze
CaTvala, rom konstituciis am
muxlSi sadaoa norma, romelic ar
iTvaliswinebs gamonaklisebs im
pirTa mimarT, visac religiuri Tu
eTikuri Sexedulebebidan gamomdi-
nare samxedro samsaxuris mimarT
keTilsindisieri winaaRmdegoba ga-
aCniaT. amis gamo ombudsmenma par-
laments sakonstitucio sasamarT-
loSi uCivla da protestic moi-
go. amis Sedegad rwmenisa da fi-
losofiuri mrwamsis Sesabamisad,
adamianma SeiZleba uari Tqvas sam-
xedro-savaldebulo samsaxurze
da saxelmwifo begara alternati-
uli arasamxedro, SromiTi samsa-
xuriT moixados, magram aseTi sa-
xis saqmianoba, samxedrosas aRema-
teba (mag. Tu samxedro samsaxuri
erTwliania, alternatiuli oria-
ni iqneba da a.S) SeRavaTebi exebaT
ieRovelebsa da pacifistebs.
kanonSi Setanilma am cvlile-
bam sazogadoebis sxvadasxva feneb-
Si araerTgvarovani reaqcia gamo-
iwvia.
izo burduli (ori vaJiSvi-
lis deda): `im areul situaciaSi,
rac qveynis SigniT da gareTaa,
Svilebis jarSi gaSveba sariskoa.
ramdenime dRis win mezoblis biWi
Camoasvenes. samxedro nawilSi
sruliad uwyinar situaciaSi mok-
les. samxedroSi wasvla rom kar-
gi iyos, Cveni mTavroba pirvel
rigSi gauSvebda Tavis Svilebs.
TviTon arian namyofni qarTul
jarSi jariskacebad. iseTi damTx-
veuli xelisuflebis xelSi nebis-
mier momentSi omis dawyebaa mosa-
lodneli. jandabas, gaxdnen iaRo-
velebi Tu pacifistebi, oRond vi-
code, rom aqve iqnebian, saRamos
saxlSi movlen da Cemi mezobeli-
viT cinkis kuboTi ar momiyvanen~.
nino SerazadaSvili (fsi-
qologi): `nebismieri sakanonmdeb-
lo cvlilebebis dros gaTvalis-
winebuli unda iyos sazogadoebis
moralur-fsiqologiuri mdgomare-
oba. rodesac garSemo amdeni saf-
rTxeebia, Cveni mosaxleobis didi
nawili gansakuTrebiT axalgazr-
doba am siaxlisaTvis moumzadebe-
lia. warmoidgineT, bavSvs unar-
CvevebSi aswavlian, rom sazogado-
ebriv transportSi ar unda dauT-
mos adgili xanSiSesuls, fexmZi-
mes, radganac axalgazrdas bileTi
aqvs nayidi, rodesac yvela da yve-
laferi TviTgadarCenisakenaa mi-
marTuli da amis cud magaliTs
Tavad xelisuflebac iZleva, Zne-
lia vinmes zeamaRlebul grZnobeb-
ze esaubro. mimaCnia, rom kanoni
zogadsakacobrioa, magram naadre-
via~.
givi kavTelaZe (istoriko-
si): `saqarTvelos mosaxleoba sa-
ukuneebis manZilze Znelbedobas
erTad ebrZoda, ganurCevlad erov-
nebisa da aRmsareblobisa. yoveli
dampyroblis upirvelesi mizani
Cveni qveynis erovnuli da sarwmu-
noebis niSniT dayofa-danawevreba
iyo. XVIII-XIX s.s.-Si
iyo msgavsi: qarTul
erovnebasa da sarwmu-
noebaze uarismTqmelT
mraval SeRavaTs uwe-
sebdnen. Sedegad qarTu-
li deda-eklesia da-
sustda, qarTveloba ga-
dajiSda. dRes TandaTa-
nobiT xdeba qarTvelo-
basa da marTalsarwmu-
noebisadmi mobruneba.
warsulSi daSvebuli
uamravi Secdomis Se-
degs dRes mwared vim-
kiT. Cemi azriT, Seta-
nili cvlileba, ufro
Sorsmimavali Canafiq-
ris erT-erTi komponenti unda
iyos, vidre naCqarevad gadadgmuli
saerTaSoriso standartebis Sesa-
bamisi nabiji~.
giorgi bocvaZe (qarTuli
marTlmadidebluri eklesiis mrev-
li): `ieRovelebisaTvis samxedro-
savaldebulo samsaxurze SeRava-
Tebis daweseba pirdapiraa
mimarTuli marTlmadidebluri ek-
lesiis winaaRmdeg. es seqta (ieRo-
velebis) sakmao Tanxebs flobs.
wlebia ibrZvis qarTuli marTlma-
didebluri eklesiis dasustebi-
saTvis. fuliT cdilobs Cveni
axalgazrdobis gadabirebas. exla
ki moRalate da jvar-eklesiis
mgmobeli xelisuflebis mfarve-
lobiT Setevaze gadavida. ieRove-
lebs, rogorc aratradiciuli
konfensiis mimdevarT, zogierT
qveynebSi sdevnian, CvenTan ki SeRa-
vaTebs uweseben~.
zaza bilixoZe
xelfasebis axali proeqti, vis ra meTodebiT ebrZvis
xelisufleba _ `mxedrioni~ brundeba
torebs nacionalebis momxre-
obis mixedviT rom iZleoda,
eg ar iyo? javaxeTSi nanaxi
“didmosavliani holandiuri
TesliT” ki Tavisi Svilebi
kvebos. isini ufro kargad mo-
ineleben holandiurs, vidre
qarTveli bavSvebi. ojaxis
wevrebis biznesiT Semotanili
holandiuri yvavilebic misT-
vis dagviTmia. Zalian myrali
suni aqvs da Tavs gvatkivebs.
”yvelgan kulturebi gvaqvs
gamosacvleli da es saxelm-
wifos gareSe ar gakeTdebao”.
ra Tqma unda, aba, qarTuli
kulturebis gadajiSebas “ga-
dajiSebuli xelisuflebis”
garda, sxva vin iTavebs? mag-
ram ver moaswreb, Cemo miSi-
ko, qarTulis gadajiSebas. “
Seni qviSis saaTi ukve gad-
mobrunebulia” da swrafi
tempebiT icleba. dapirebuli
aseuli traqtorisa da misab-
meli agregatis nacvlad, er-
Ti paravozi rom iyido, ro-
melsac mTels “nacmoZraobas”
Caabam da “kudigoris, an de-
pos gzas” gauyvebiT, ukeTesi
iqneba. swored miSikosgan
“ararsebulad gamocxadebu-
li”, ralurad ki saqarTve-
loSi arsebuli Zveli jan-
dacviT ar daudgines saakaS-
vils is diagnozi, romelsac
misi ojaxi dRemde sagulda-
gulod malavs? Tavis gaxs-
nil “axal saavadmyofoebSi”
ki eliCka TevdoraZis siyvebis
miuxedavad: “yvelani karga
xnis gamokvlevebulebi var-
To”, nacionalebidan bevrs,
2012 wlis oqtomberSi, dawo-
la albaT, mainc mouwevT. So-
badobac amas aumaRlebia!
“patriarqic (CvenTan erTa-
do!) mudmivad axsenebs qarT-
velebs, rom unda gamravldne-
no”. 2012 wlis jandacvis
xelmisawvdomobis wlad ga-
mocxadeba, winasaarCevnod, sa-
akaSvilisgan 2,5 000 000
adamianis mosyidvis wels gu-
lisxmobda. “putilovis qar-
xanaSi gamosuli leniniviT”,
bolSevik-komunisturi paTo-
siT gvesaubra “nepsa da eleq-
trofikaciaze”, romelsac na-
xevari saqarTvelos ekologia
unda Seewiros. “gaRletil
merabiSvilze” saubari ki
“momsaxureobis aridan sruli
gasvla iyo”. “ukan SeZromas
rom cdiloben xelisufleba-
Si, im korumpirebuli Cinov-
nikebis umTavresi saqme narko-
tikebi rom iyo”, esec albaT
ise unda gavigoT, rom es ka-
ci isev opoziciaSi gadadis
da sakuTari gundis wevrebs
daereva. imitom, rom narkoti-
kebs “gaRletilebis” nebarT-
vis gareSe saqarTveloSi ve-
ravin Semoitans da gayidis.
“viRacm mxardaWera Tu ga-
mogvicxada, boRmiT ixrCobian.
. . pirvelad aTaswleulebis
ganmavlobaSi. . . ixrCoba jav-
risgan. es ver “mounalebia”
saqarTvelos mters” saqarTve-
los Senze didi mteri dRes
vina hyavs, Cemo maikl? “yuris
awevis” Semdeg ruseTTan savi-
zo reJimis gamartivebazec
gvesaubra. putinis gapreziden-
tebis Semdeg ki sanam “danapi-
rebs moaWrides”, grimsa pa-
rikSi gamowyobili saakaSvi-
lic, romelic “enas waiWris”,
male SeiZleba vixiloT. es
rom ivaniSvils eTqva, ra gni-
ass atexdnen “neobolSeviki
nacebi” Tu warmogidgeniaT?
magram umTavresi mizani ru-
seTTan sazRvrebis gamartive-
bis SeTavazebisa, is aris, rom
“ormag agent nacional bi-
Webs” kagebeSnik bosebTan Cas-
vla da patakebis Cabareba mo-
enatraT. “cereusTan” isedac
uproblemod Cadian. “SarSan-
deliviT, meore ki ar iqneba,
aramed yvelas gauswrebs,
msoflioSi pirvel adgilze
iqneba planetaze”. vai, ubedu-
ro saqarTvelov, amis xelSi!!!
rogorc xedavT, saakaSvilma
cxonebul frunzik mkrtCianis
gmirsac gadauswro, da ara
pirvelad erevanSi, sanfran-
ciskoSi, an saqarTveloSi,
aramed ukve msoflio da pla-
netarul masStabebsac gadasw-
vda da male galaqtikaSc gaW-
reba. aSkaaraa, rom saakaSvils
ivaniSvilis gamoCenam, fsiqi-
urTan erTad iseTi politiku-
ri problemebic Seuqmna, rom
8 wlis ganmavlobaSi pirve-
lad ixmara sityva “samSob-
lo”. oRond am sityvis xmare-
bisas SepyrobilisTvis “ufa-
lo Semiwyales” msagavsad
sityvebi aebna da ufro aner-
viulda. is marSrutic dagvi-
saxa, rac Turme “erTaderTi
yofila, romelsac ar unda
gadavuxvioT da erTad unda
gaviaroT”. “am marSrutiT”
tarebam qveyana ufskrulSi
gadaCexa. am gziT arc manamde
mivlia da arc momavalSi vapi-
reb siaruls, radgan “saakaS-
vilis gza” saqarTvelos taZ-
ramde arasdros miiyvans.
P.S. aamm ggaammoossvvllaamm,, ffiillmmii
““SSeexxvveeddrraa wwaarrssuullTTaann ggaammaaxxssee-
nnaa””.. lleeiillaa aabbaaSSiiZZiiss ssiittyyvveebbii::
““ssiikkvvddiillii mmoovviiddaa ggooggiiaaoo””.. ssaa-
aakkaaSSvviilliiss yyoovveellii ffrraazzaa- ““bbii-
ZZiinnaa mmoovviiddaa mmiiSSiikkoooo..
baia amaSukeli
18 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
sakuTar ekonomikur xedveb-
ze, devnilebis problemebsa da
moqalaqeTa socialur mdgoma-
reobaze, moZalade policie-
lebsa da arCevnebis gamyalbeb-
lebze, sakuTar politikur
gegmebsa da saqarTvelos pers-
peqtivebze, aqamde ucnobi ra-
kursiT, eqskluziurad
tspress.ge-ss mkiTxvelisTvis.
Cvens kiTxvebs pasuxobs „qar-
Tuli ocnebis“lideri, biZina
ivaniSvili:
- batono biZina, romeli
mediasaSualebebidan axerxebT
samegrelos Sesaxeb informa-
ciis miRebas?
- mediasaSualebebis gac-
nobas, ZiriTadad, vaxerxeb me-
diamonitoringis samsaxuris
mier mowodebuli masalebidan.
rac Seexeba samegrelos, aq
gansakuTrebul deficits
vgrZnob obieqturi mediis
TvalsazrisiT. samegrelos
regioni, Tavisufali mediis
mxriv, yvelaze metad aris
SezRuduli. es Zalian samwu-
xaroa.
es problema axlo moma-
valSi, Cveni xelisuflebaSi
mosvlisTanave, unda gamovas-
woroT. axlac unda Seveca-
doT, samegrelos regioni ar-
Cevnebis periodSi rogorme
gavaaqtiuroT, raTa mediaga-
mocemebi ar ganicdidnen cen-
zuras, mosaxleobam obieqtu-
ri informaciis miReba moa-
xerxos da kargad informire-
buli arCevanis gakeTeba SeZ-
los.
- ukve ramdenime Tvea,
politikaSi xarT. ra gansxva-
vebaa biznesmen ivaniSvilsa da
politikos ivaniSvils So-
ris?
- biznessa da politikas
Soris bevri ram aris saer-
To. orives sWirdeba kadrebis
sworad SerCeva, swori menej-
menti, riskebis sworad gaT-
vla, drouli reagireba. rac
saerTo ar aris maT Soris, es
sajaroobaa. gagimxelT da
getyviT, rom es Cemi samuSa-
os is nawilia, romelTanac
Segueba gamiWirda, Tumca, po-
litikaSi yofna bunebrivad
gulisxmobs sajaroobas. gar-
kveuli drois Semdeg, cxov-
rebis am wessac SeveCvie.
-arCevnebis Tema dRes Za-
lian aqtualuria. praqtiku-
lad, ukve varT saarCevno re-
JimSi, xelisufleba ukve uam-
rav winasaarCeno RonisZiebas
gvTavazobs...amasTan, gamkacrda
partiebis dafinansebis kanoni,
araa dazustebuli siebi, xe-
lisuflebas Tavad xeli mi-
uwvdeba administraciul re-
sursze, akontrolebs sam na-
cionalur arxs da a.S. ras
daupirispirebT am yvelafers
da gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi,
ra Sedegi CaiTvleba TqvenT-
vis damakmayofilebel Sede-
gad?
- arCevnebSi gamarjvebad
miviCnevT damajerebel gamar-
jvebas da ara 1-22%-iiT meti
adgilis mopovebas. Cven, koa-
licia arCevnebSi unda avcdeT
2/3-ss. am usamarTlo da uTa-
nasworo saarCevno garemoSi
es rTulia, magram SesaZlebe-
li. yvelafers gavakeTebT imi-
saTvis, rom damajerebel ga-
marjvebas mivaRwioT.
rac Seexeba xelisuflebis
mier dawyebul winasaarCevno
agitacias, administraciuli
resursebis gamoyenebas, pro-
saxelisuflebo nacionalur
televiziebsa da mis sxva upi-
ratesobebs, Cven amas martivi
wesiT davabalansebT - xeli-
suflebis realur saxes dRes
Cveni mosaxleoba Zalian kar-
gad xedavs. gasagebia is Ziri-
Tadi meTodi, riTac isini
arCevnebis mogebas apireben:
esaa sicrue, Zaladoba da uka-
nonoba. saarCevno garemos ga-
sajansaReblad saWiroa, ada-
mianebs hqondeT informirebu-
li arCevanis gakeTebis saSua-
leba. am dros arsebobs in-
formaciis simwire, gansakuT-
rebiT - regionebSi. Cven
viwyebT am problemis gamos-
worebaze muSaobas da fosta-
lionebis institutis aRdgena
rom dagvWirdes kidec, TiTo-
eul mosaxlemde obieqturi
informaciis mitanas mainc mo-
vaxerxebT.
rac mTavaria, Cven gvaqvs
amisaTvis sxvadasxva meqanizmi,
sxvadasxva gaTvla. mxedvelo-
baSi maqvs im SezRudvebis ga-
neitraleba, rasac administ-
raciuli da sxva ukanono re-
sursebiT xelisufleba axer-
xebs. sabaJoze gvifuWeben apa-
raturas. „maestros“ - praq-
tikulad, erTaderT sainfor-
macio saSualebas, romelic
mTel saqarTveloze Tanamg-
zavris saSualebiT mauwyeb-
lobda, daumtvries gadamcemi
aparatura.
regionebis mosaxleoba
praqtikulad veRar iRebs
obieqtur informacias. faq-
tobrivad, muSaobs sami saxe-
lisuflebo televizia, Tu
mxedvelobaSi ar miviRebT pa-
tara arxebs, romlebic didi
wnexis qveS arseboben. mxed-
velobaSi maqvs regionuli
televiziebi: 25-e arxi baTum-
Si da „TrialeTi“ _ qarTl-
Si. gvaqvs aseve gazeTi „qar-
Tuli ocneba“, romelic moa-
xerxebs sazogadoebis infor-
mirebas.
- vfiqrob, rom yvelaze
didi moTxovna dRes aris pi-
radad TqvenTan Sexvedraze.
mosaxleobas surs, Tavad Sex-
vdes biZina ivaniSvils da da-
elaparakos. CaxvalT Tu ara
regionebSi da rodis?
- ra Tqma unda, amas auci-
leblad gavakeTebT. xalxTan
Sexvedrasac organizeba da
momzadeba sWirdeba. me koali-
ciis prezentaciaze ganvacxa-
de, rom martis bolomde mova-
xerxebT partiuli struqtu-
rebis Camoyalibebas. 1 aprili-
dan gavaqtiurdebiT: me da Ce-
mi kolegebi gavalT yvela re-
gionSi imdenjer, ramdenjerac
es saWiro iqneba da mosaxle-
obis problemebs uSualod ga-
vecnobiT.
- sazogadoebis erTi nawi-
li fiqrobs, rom Tqveni gun-
dis politikuri gaaqtiureba
Wianurdeba.
- ver dageTanxmebiT. inten-
siurad vmuSaobT. aris raRac,
rac zedapirze ar Cans, magram
saWiroa Sexvedrebi politi-
kur istebliSmentTan, ucxo-
el partniorebTan. mogexsene-
baT, rom xalxi SeSinebulia,
aris Zalian didi zewola.
bevr adamians naTesavi hyavs
daWerili da pirobiT gaTavi-
suflebuli. maT surT CvenTan
TanamSromloba, magram Riad
gamoCenas eridebian.
xelisuflebas mravali me-
qanizmi aqvs Cadebuli imisT-
vis, rom xalxi rogorme ar
gaaqtiurdes. Tumca, isini ver
iTvaliswineben mTavars: ar
ician qarTveli kacis xasiaTi,
romelic mebrZoli da Tavi-
suflebis maZebaria. xelisuf-
leba, didi Zaladobisa da wi-
naaRmdegobis miuxedavad, ra
Tqma unda, ver moaxerxebs,
brZolisa da gamarjvebis su-
rvili dagvikargos. Cven vvi-
TardebiT, Tumca, xelovnuri
problemebis gamo vkargavT
imaze cota met dros, vidre
normalur situaciaSi davkar-
gavdiT.
uamrav problemas xelov-
nurad gviqmnian. gansakuTre-
biT, es igrZnoba regionuli
ofisebis gaxsnisas. kacs dai-
Tanxmeb, ofiss daiqiraveb,
iwyeb muSaobas. mere amas Se-
ityobs xelisufleba da meo-
re dResve xorcieldeba am
adamianze zewola. Sedegad,
Zalian xSirad, isini uars am-
boben Cvens StabSi muSaobasa
Tu ofisis gaqiravebaze.
- aseT adamianebTan Semd-
gom rogori damokidebuleba
gaqvT: Tu xvdebiT an Tu
uwevT raime saxis iuridiul
daxmarebas? ras upirispirebT
xelisuflebis Zaladobas am
etapze, radgan es adamianebi
marTla Zalian dazaralebuli
arian.
- dRes Cven ver vaxerxebT,
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis
idealurad dacvas. magram es
nabij-nabij gasakeTebeli saq-
mea. TandaTanobiT vgegmavT sa-
zogadoebis gaaqtiurebasa da
SiSisgan gaTavisuflebas.
survilis miuxedavad, yvela
nabijis Sesaxeb detalurad
ver mogiyvebiT, radgan zogi
ram saidumlo Canafiqricaa.
magram es moxdeba droulad.
aprilidan, Cveni mobilizeba
TvalSisacemi iqneba. zedmeti
gaaqtiureba, SeiZleba dRes
saWiro arc iyos, radgan am
etapze Zalian agresiulia xe-
lisufleba. es ki, upirvele-
sad, Cvens momxreebs daazara-
lebs. amas maqsimalurad veri-
debiT.
- Tqven zedmetad ar aq-
tiurobT, magram absolutu-
rad sxva suraTia xelisuf-
lebaSi, romelic hiperaqtiu-
ria...
- diax, hiperaqtiuri pre-
zidenti gvyavs... Cemi azriT,
cota isteriulad darbis.
Tumca, sirbiliT bevrs vera-
fers moipovebs. yvelam icis
ukve, rom masTan Sexedraze
xalxi avtobusebiT dahyavT;
yvelam icis, rom zogierT Se-
nobas, sxvadasxva dros, sami
mxridan xsnis. gaugebaria, vis-
Tvis da risTvis akeTebs amas.
albaT, TviTonve uxaria es,
moswons da ver Cerdeba, ver
isvenebs... aqvs iluzia, rom ka-
xeTidan imereTs moatyuebs,
imereTidan - samegrelos, sa-
erTo jamSi, Seqmnis iluzias,
rom is aRmaSenebeli preziden-
tia. Tumca, ZiriTadi aqcenti
mainc gakeTebuli aqvs ara
Tundac moCvenebiT aRmSeneb-
lobaze, aramed isev daSineba-
ze, Zaladobasa da gayalbebaze
da hgonia, rom am manipulire-
biT moaxerxebs arCevnebis mo-
gebas. magram garwmunebT, rom
araferi gamouva. es myife sis-
tema daimsxvreva da yvelafers
daerqmeva sakuTari saxeli.
biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:
`saakaSvili mzadaa, gaxdes absoluturi diqtatori, oRond mas ar aqvs amis resursebi~
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- radgan prezidenti ax-
seneT, iqneb, masze visaubroT.
ra migaCniaT mis yvelaze di-
di marcxad da yvelaze didi
miRwevad moRvaweobis manZil-
ze?
- vfiqrob, rom yvelaze
kargad rac iswavla am xeli-
suflebam (rasac misi wina-
morbedi ver axerxebda), aris
is, Tu rogor moagrovon fu-
li. es procesi daiwyo saba-
Joebidan da axla yvela moqa-
laqis jibeSi Zvrebian. ician,
vis ramdeni aqvs jibeSi da
amis mixedviT amyareben masTan
urTierTobas. es, naxevrad-
xumrobiT, ra Tqma unda...
yvelaze didi miRweva,
riTac dResac trabaxoben,
isaa, rom eleqtroenergia
gvaqvs. imaze aRar saubroben,
rom am dens saqarTvelos mo-
saxleoba evropaSi, mgoni,
yvelaze Zvirad yidulobs. sa-
ocaria, ra meqanizmiT miabes
moxmarebuli eleqtroenergi-
is safasurs nagvis gadasaxa-
di. prezidenti imiT traba-
xobs, rom dabnelebuli qveya-
na gaanaTes. Tuki kargad gava-
analizebT, Cveni qveynis moqa-
laqeebs, maTi Semosavlebis
fonze, es ra daujdaT da ra
ujdebaT, mivxvdebiT, rom
esaa katastrofa. aseTi Zviri
eleqtroenergia, bevri mize-
zis gamo, maT Soris - imis
gamoc, rom misi gamomuSave-
bis udidesi nawili hidrore-
sursebze modis, saqarTvelo-
Si ar unda Rirdes.
rac Seexeba realur miR-
wevas, rasac me qarTveli
xalxis da ara - xelisufle-
bis miRwevad miviCnev, poli-
ciaSi, qveda doneze korufci-
is damarcxebaa. amas aucileb-
lad aRvniSnav xolme ucxoel
JurnalistebTanac, raTa xazi
gavusva qarTveli xalxis
kulturas _ rogor moaxerxa
aTi aTasobiT qarTvelma po-
licielma, ase swrafad, uari
eTqva korufciaze.
magram es saakaSvilis dam-
saxureba ar aris. raRac etap-
ze, mas amas miRwevad mec vuT-
vlidi, magram es ar aris gan-
sakuTrebuli menejmentis Se-
degi. Tumca, merabiSvili cu-
di menejeri ar aris (es ram-
denjerme miTqvams), magram am
TvalsazrisiT, is gamorCeuli
ar aris. es pozitiuri Sede-
gi (ase mcire droSi) mxo-
lod qarTveli xalxis kul-
turis gansakuTrebulobas Se-
iZleba davukavSiroT.
Tumca, es miRweva gadafa-
ra im garemoebam, rom dRevan-
deli policia mTlianad po-
litizirebulia da praqtiku-
lad, mxolod erTi kacis
dakveTas emsaxureba. me isev
vaqeb aTiaTasobiT qarTvels,
romelic dRes policiaSi
msaxurobs. isini patiosani
adamianebi arian, magram erTi
kacis Zaladobis gamo ver
axerxeben, Rirseulad Seas-
rulon TavianTi movaleoba,
emsaxuron sazogadoebas, xa-
lxs da ara - xelisuflebas.
maTac xSirad uwevT kanonsa-
winaaRmdego qmedebis Cadena,
Tumca amis survili maT abso-
lutur umravlesobas ar ga-
aCnia.
rac Seexeba meore warma-
tebul reformas, es iyo ga-
naTlebis reformis nawili.
mTlianad, ganaTlebis sfero-
Si katastrofuli mdgomareo-
baa - iseve, rogorc dRes sa-
qarTveloSi, nebismier darg-
Sia. magram misaRebi gamocde-
bis sistema, romelic mudmivi
sircxvili iyo Cveni mosaxle-
obisTvis, Seicvala. am sfero-
Sic, rogorc ki xelisufle-
bam raRac pozitiuri Sedegi
miiRo, Zalian male, mosaxle-
obamac gamoxata, aseve, pozi-
tiuri damokidebuleba. gamo-
dis, rom rogorc ki xeli-
sufleba swori gzis Cvenebas
Seecdeba, saqarTvelos mosax-
leobas aqvs Zalian didi mza-
oba reformebisa da samarT-
lianobis mimarT. Tumca, ro-
gorc vici, dRes am warmate-
buli reformis saerTod ga-
uqmebas apireben.
warumateblobebis Camo-
saTvlelad ki, albaT, erTi
dRe ar gveyofa. pirvel rig-
Si, saakaSvilis udieri da ga-
uazrebeli qceviT dakarguli
teritoriebi unda gavixse-
noT, xelisuflebis kont-
rolqveS arsebuli sasamarT-
lo, media. yvelaze cudi ki
isaa, rom dRes saakaSvili
mzadaa, gaxdes absoluturi
diqtatori, oRond mas ara
aqvs amis resursebi.
- saakaSvilma policiis
reforma masobrivi gaTavisuf-
lebebiT daiwyo. Tqven saub-
robT policielebis politi-
zirebaze, rac migaCniaT am
sferos seriozul naklad.
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis
SeTxvevaSi, daiTxovT Tu ara
policielebs, anu ra bedi
eliT vano merabiSvilis po-
licielebs?
- visaubreb ara mxolod
policielebze, aramed sajaro
moxeleebzec. sul ramdenime
dRe dasWirdeba da policiam,
iseve, rogorc swrafad Tqva
uari korufciaze, swrafad
ityvis uars politikuri dak-
veTebis Seasrulebaze da
swrafad Cadgeba kanonierebis
samsaxurSi. es reforma, Tavis
droze, xelisuflebam didi
tkivilebis xarjze, araswo-
rad Caatara - Zalian bevri
profesionali absoluturad
daumsaxureblad gaaZeves sam-
saxuridan. isev minda, xazi
gavusva qarTveli xalxis
kulturasa da maRal zneobas:
maT moaxerxes, swori pozici-
is daeWiraT.
xelisuflebaSi Cveni
mosvlis Semdeg, sajaro moxe-
leebis absoluturi umravle-
soba SeinarCunebs samuSao ad-
gilebs. ufro mets getyviT -
arsebuli xelisuflebis dar-
Cenis SemTxvevaSi, maT samuSa-
os dakargvis safrTxe emuqre-
baT, vinaidan marTvis aseTi
meTodebiT xelisufleba Za-
lian male veRar SeZlebs am-
deni sajaro moxelis Senax-
vas. rom ara Cveni gundi da
Cveni Semosvla politikaSi,
sul male isini am xalxs
xelfasebs ver gadauxdian. me
ar mjera maT mier oficialu-
rad warmodgenili cifrebis.
vici, rogori biujeti dagvx-
vdeba Cven - absoluturad
dangreuli da ganadgurebuli.
darwmunebuli var, Cven rom
ar movideT politikaSi, maq-
simum, kidev erTi wlis gan-
mavlobaSi Tu moaxerxeben am
raodenobis sajaro moxelis
Senaxvas.
sajaro moxeleebs minda,
Sevaxseno: nu aqvT imis SiSi.
xelisuflebaSi Cveni mosvlis
Sedegad, isini samuSao adgi-
lebs ar dakargaven. piriqiT,
Cveni mosvlis Semdeg, maT ga-
uCndebaT safuZveli, araTu
SeinarCunon, aramed gaiumjo-
beson mdgomareoba. swori po-
litikis gatarebis pirobebSi,
maTi saxelfaso ganakveTebic
gaizrdeba. es SeexebaT poli-
cielebsac da sxva sajaro
moxeleebsac.
- Tu gaqvT gadawyvetili,
vin iqnebian Tqveni koalicii-
dan prezidentobis, premier-
ministrobisa da parlamentis
Tavmjdomareobis kandidate-
bi?
- SemiZlia, ganvacxado,
rom premier-ministri viqnebi
me. es gadawyvetilia da es
ician Cemma kolegebma da gun-
dis wevrebmac. rac Seexeba
sxva Tanamdebobebs, me vfiq-
rob, amis gacxadeba jer naad-
revia. yvelaferi Tavis droze
gairkveva.
- Tqvens gundSi arian Se-
vardnaZis saxeebi. aseve aris
mosazrebac, rom Tqvens gund-
Si ar arian dasavleTSi ga-
naTlebamiRebuli adamianebi.
garkveulwilad xom ar moqme-
debs es Tqveni gundis reitin-
gze da xom ar gikargavT mom-
xreebs?
- rac Seexeba SevardnaZis
gundis wevrebs, tleviziebi
Zalian xSirad saubroben Te-
do jafariZesTan dakavSire-
biT. mimaCnia, rom Tuki Cveni
axali partiis nebismier
wevrs cal-calke ganvixi-
lavT, isini umaRlesi klasis
profesionalebi arian.
piriqiT, kargia, roca
adamians gamocdileba aqvs.
Cveni gundis wevrTa ZiriTa-
di maxasiaTebeli, profesio-
nalizmis garda, principu-
lobaa. CvenTan axali saxeebic
arian: magaliTad, irakli Ra-
ribaSvili safrangeTSi, sor-
bonis universitetSi swav-
lobda. aseve, daviTaSvili
gaxlavT atlantis universi-
tetis profesori. vcdilobT,
axali saxeebic gvyavdes da
Zveli, gamocdili saxeebic.
Cvens gundSi aravinaa da arc
momavalSi iqneba iseTi adami-
ani, visac warsulidan gamo-
yolili seriozuli Secdo-
ma amZimebs.
- Tqvens adrindel gamos-
vlebSi aRniSnavdiT, rom aR-
mofxvridiT umuSevrobis pr-
oblemas. konkretulad ra na-
bijebs gadadgamT amisaTvis?
- umuSevrobis mizezi is
politikaa, romelsac dRevan-
deli xelisufleba axorcie-
lebs. esaa monopoliuri biz-
nesis arseboba, romelsac xe-
lisufleba mfarvelobs da
romelic maRal fasebs gana-
pirobebs. es aris magaliTi
imisa, Tu rogori ar unda
iyos ekonomika; miuTiTebs
imaze, Tu ra SemTxvevaSia mo-
salodneli didi umuSevroba
da ekonomikis ngreva.
pirvel rigSi, kanoniere-
ba da marTlmsajuleba unda
aRdges, media da biznesi unda
gaTavisufldes saxelmwifo
Carevisa da monopolizebisgan.
swori ekonomikuri kanonebiT
realuradaa SesaZlebeli, Se-
iqmnas saintereso sainvesti-
cio garemo, Caidos fuli sa-
qarTvelos ekonomikaSi, gaix-
snas axali sawarmoebi, Seiqm-
nas axali samuSao adgilebi
da a.S.
- saxelmwifo xom ver
Seqmnis axal sawarmoebs, ro-
gor warmogidgeniaT amis ga-
keTeba?
- ra Tqma unda, es ar
aris saxelmwifos saqme. amas
fiqrobs saakaSvili mudmivad
- rom TiTqos man unda gaxs-
nas obieqtebi; darbis, mudam
amiT amayobs da TviTon mii-
wers, rom is xsnis sawarmo-
ebs Tu samedicino dawesebu-
lebebs. es ar aris xelisufa-
lis, sajaro moxelis saqme.
maTi saqmea, Seqmnan realuri
garemo biznesisaTvis da kano-
niereba aRdges qveyanaSi. yve-
laze cudi, rac angrevs da
realurad, perspeqtivas ukar-
gavs bizness, aris is, rom
saxelmwifo Cinovniki da, maT
Soris, prezidenti kerZo biz-
nesSi ereva. antimonopoliuri
samsaxuri realurad unda mu-
Saobdes.
dRes, biznesi mTlianad
monopolizebulia da marTu-
lia saxelmwifos mier - igi
saocar wnexs ganicdis. SemiZ-
lia Zalian kargi magaliTi
mogiyvanoT, razec dRes el-
CebTan Sexvedrazec visaubre:
iciT, rogori ukanonoba Cai-
dines „qarTu bankis“ winaaRm-
deg. bankebze policiuri ze-
damxedvelobis TvalsazrisiT,
iseTi kanoni SemoiRes, rom
aseT pirobebSi bankebis arse-
boba SeuZlebelia. miuxedavad
amisa, rodesac Cven komerciu-
li bankebis asociacia moviw-
vieT, warmoidgineT, rom Sek-
rebaze arc erTi bankis war-
momadgeneli ar movida. imde-
nad daSantaJebuli, daSinebu-
lia da marTulia biznesi,
rom Sekrebaze mosvla verc
erTma komerciulma bankma ver
gabeda. arada, am kanoniT ne-
bismieri banki SeuZliaT,
xval da zeg gaakotron. aq
ramdenime adamianis mier imar-
Teba yvelaferi.
prokuror adeiSvils aqvs
Seqmnili raRac monitoringis
jgufi, romelic akontro-
lebs nebismier gadaricxvas
da realurad, yvela bizness.
aseTia sinamdvile: saqarTve-
loSi biznesebis marTvas pro-
kurori axorcielebs. sruli
pasuxismgeblobiT vambob, rom
am pirobebSi verc biznesi
ganviTardeba da verc samuSao
adgilebi Seiqmneba.
- mainc romeli gadasaxadi
migaCniaT yvelaze usamarT-
lod?
- gadasaxadebis daxvewa da
daregulireba yvelaze marti-
vi procesia. mTavari isaa,
rom xalxs ara aqvs Semosava-
li da nebismieri, didi Tu pa-
tara gadasaxadi, dRes ukve
problemaa saqarTvelos mo-
saxleobisTvis. yvelaze did
gadasaxadebs, dRes, saproce-
so garigebebis gziT krefen.
swored amis gamo moxda mo-
saxleobis masobrivi gakot-
reba. dRes yvelanairi biznesi
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20 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
ganuzomel zewolas ganicdis.
sagadasaxado wnexis daregu-
lireba iqneba Zalian martivi;
mTavari is aris, rom biznes-
Si xelisuflebis Careva ar
unda xdebodes da samarTlia-
ni kanonebi unda iyos. bizness
ganviTarebisTvis maqsimaluri
pirobebi unda SevuqmnaT. sa-
Wiroa Zalian dabalganakveTi-
ani an uprocento sesxebis ga-
cema wvrili da saSualo biz-
nesisTvis da a. S.
- monopoliebis daSlas
rogor apirebT? saxelmwifom
ra unda gaakeTos amisaTvis?
Tavis droze, am xelisufle-
basac TiTqos hqonda amis mc-
deloba, magram, rogorc aR-
moCnda, ver ganaxorcieles...
- am xelisuflebas, piri-
qiT, hqonda monopoliebis
Seqmnis mcdeloba da Seqmnes
kidec. antimonopoliuri sam-
saxuri - absoluturad Senge-
bulad - saerTod gaauqmes.
dRevandel sakanonmdeblo ba-
zaSi bevri araferia Sesacv-
leli; misi Sesrulebis neba
unda arsebobdes. antimonopo-
liuri samsaxuri realurad
unda muSaobdes. kanoni unda
kanonobdes. monopoliuri
biznesis, ase vTqvaT, „Wkuaze
moyvana“, konkurentuli gare-
mos Seqmnas SeuZlia.
- gasagebia, rom mxars gi-
WerT sazogadoebis opozici-
urad ganwyobili nawili, mag-
ram Tu gaviTvaliswinebT im
faqts, rom nacmoZraoba jer
araa gakotrebuli partia da
mas yavs garkveuli raodeno-
bis amomrCeveli, riTi api-
rebT misi momxreebis gadmobi-
rebas, ras SesTavazebT maT an
ras gaakeTebT iseTs, rom ma-
Ti mxardaWera moipovoT?
- saqarTvelos mosaxleo-
bis daaxloebiT 1/3 aris
mkveTrad opoziciurad gan-
wyobili eleqtorati. me rom
ar viyo kidec, romelime opo-
ziciur Zalas is mxars mainc
dauWers. 1/3 gaxlavT xeli-
suflebaSi dasaqmebuli da
daSinebuli amomrCeveli. ar-
sebobs azri, rom es adamiane-
bi mxars uWeren xelisufle-
bas, 1/3 ki ver, an - ar bedavs
poziciis gamoxatvas. dRes sa-
qarTveloSi Zalian cota Tu
darCa, romelic realobas ver
acnobierebs. am xelisuflebis
sapirispirod, Cven maT vTava-
zobT: sicruis nacvlad - si-
marTlesa da kanonierebas. xe-
lisuflebis ukanonobasa da
Zaladobas vupirispirebT ka-
nonierebas, Tavisuflebasa da
perspeqtivas.
Cven arc Tu ise bevri
gvaqvs gasakeTebeli. arc Tu
ise didi gmiroba sWirdebaT
amomrCevlebs. Cven maTgan ar
viTxovT raime msxverpls, wi-
naswar poziciis gamoxatvas.
ubralod, isini unda gamovid-
nen saarCevno ubanSi da moxa-
zuli biuleteni Caagdon sa-
arCevno yuTSi. es ar aris di-
di gmiroba, Cven amas movaxer-
xebT. ra Tqma unda, imas, rom
maT daijeron Cveni upirate-
soba da is, rom ukeTes moma-
vals vTavazobT, sWirdeba mu-
Saoba.
ar arian qarTvelebi aseTi
mSiSrebi, rogoric saakaS-
vils hgonia. mas hgonia, rom
sazogadoebis daSinebuli na-
wili ar gamova saxlebidan da
mis magivrad, Tavad miscemen
xmas. aseTi didi istoriis
mqone qarTvelebi arc iseTi
mSiSrebi varT, rom arCevnebis
dRes saxlebidan gamosvla
ver movaxerxoT.
- samegreloSi bevri dev-
nili cxovrobs, romlebic
araadamianuri meTodebiT gaa-
saxles Tbilisidan. maT ras
hpirdebiT?
- isini msxverplni arian
im didi usamarTlobis, rac
Cvens qveyanaSi xdeba. maT uam-
ravi gaWirveba da piradi
tragedia gadaitanes. erT ra-
mes Sevpirdebi Cvens devni-
lebs: individualurad ganvi-
xilavT yvela devnilis sa-
kiTxs da maTi survilisa da
Cveni SesaZleblobebis maqsi-
maluri gaTvaliswinebiT mo-
vaxerxebT maTTvis adamianuri
cxovrebis pirobebis Seqmnas.
CvenTvis mTavari adamiani da
masze dafuZnebuli faseulo-
bebia.
- Tqveni oponentebi mud-
mivad apelireben imaze, rom
Tqven ar gqoniaT saqarTvelo-
Si biznesi, Tu ar CavTvliT
“qarTu banks” da ar CagidiaT
Tanxa saqarTvelos ekonomikis
ganviTarebaSi. marTlac, ra-
tom moxda ase?
- pirveli struqtura,
romelic saqarTveloSi gavx-
seni, iyo „qarTu banki“. maSi-
nac vacxadebdi da dResac vam-
bob, rom misi daniSnuleba sa-
qarTveloSi investiciebis Ca-
deba da sainvesticio proeq-
tebis dafinanseba iyo. yvela-
nair SeRavaTebs vpirdebodi
sazogadoebas da vapirebdi,
mTeli Cemi kapitali saqarT-
veloSi sainvesticio klima-
tis gaumjobesebisa da inves-
ticiebis CadebisTvis gamome-
yenebina. „qarTu banki“ iyo
pirveli struqtura da ara -
saqvelmoqmedo fondi.
pirveli dRidan moyole-
buli, „qarTu bankma“ saqarT-
velos ekonomikaSi 300 mili-
onis investireba moaxerxa.
imdenad, ramdenadac aq ar
aris sainvesticio klimati,
ar aris moTxovnileba ful-
ze, rogori saocrebac ar un-
da iyos. raRac etapze, bankis
xelmZRvanelobas davavale,
iqneb, sakredito ganakveTi
Segvemcirebina da minimumamde
dagveyvana, vinaidan problemis
mizezad maRali procentebi
miviCnie. magram analizis Sem-
deg damarwmunes, rom es SeuZ-
lebeli iyo, radgan erTader-
Ti, rac kargad funqcionireb-
da saqarTveloSi, es iyo sa-
banko-safinanso sistema, da
Tu Cven ganakveTs xelovnu-
rad davwevdiT, es sxva komer-
ciuli bankebis gakotrebas
gamoiwvevda. me sakuTari kapi-
tali Semomqonda da marto
dabandebisTvis mqonda es yve-
laferi gankuTvnili. magram
ar moxerxda, ar aris amaze
moTxovnileba...
yvelaze saintereso biz-
nesisaTvis - rac qveyanas
sWirdeba - es aris fuli. es
fuli unda gaices mosaxleo-
baze dabali procentebiT, es
ekonomikis ganviTarebisTvis
erT-erTi ZiriTadi faqtoria.
am mxriv, yvelaze didi SesaZ-
leblobebi gvqonda, raTa sa-
investicio banki vyofiliya-
viT; SeuzRudavi dafinanseba
SegveZlo, magram es ar mo-
xerxda.
- zogadad, Tavisufal
ekonomikur zonebze ras fiq-
robT da xelisuflebaSi mos-
vlis SemTxvevaSi, zonebTan
dakavSirebiT ra gadawyveti-
lebas miiRebT?
- saqarTveloSi ar unda
iyos erTi gamorCeuli zona.
yvela zona unda funqcioni-
rebdes da yvelgan unda iyos
realuri TviTmmarTveloba,
kargad gamarTuli politika
da kargi ekonomikuri kanone-
bi. amis safuZvelze unda gan-
viTardes yvela regioni.
rac Seexeba foTs da mas-
Tan mimarTebiT prezidentis
dapirebebs: ra Tqma unda, es
morigi sicruea. zogadad, Ta-
visufal ekonomikur zonebze
ukve uars ambobs ganviTarebu-
li evropa, Zveli evropa da
kviprosic ki, romelsac, ev-
rokavSirSi gasaerTianeblad,
ofSorul da Tavisufal eko-
nomikur zonebze uari aTqme-
vines. es iyo prezidentis mo-
rigi sicrue, morigi triuki
- lazikis mSeneblobis msgav-
sad, sadac erT kaci wyvets,
aSendes Tu ara axali qalaqi,
daSres Tu ara Waobebi. am
dros, uamravi saxli dacli-
lia, maT Soris, samegrelo-
Sic. xalxi samuSaod ucxoeT-
Si garbis, rac xelisufle-
bis politikis Sedegia. vin
unda icxovros im axal qa-
laqSi, vis unda es da ratom
unda gadawyvitos es yvelafe-
ri erTma kacma?
- Tqven erT interviuSi
ganacxadeT, rom saakaSvils
jer kidev gaaCnia resursi,
rom xalxma mas miutevos. ras
gulisxmobdiT?
- erTaderTi swori gza,
rac saakaSvils darCa, aris
is, rom rac SeiZleba swra-
fad SeCerdes. aseT SemTxveva-
Si, SeiZleba saqarTvelos mo-
saxleobam miutevos - uamravi
Secdomisa da danaSaulis mi-
uxedavad.
- mosaxleobas ainteresebs
aseve, xom ar gaauaresebs
Tqveni mosvla maT mdgomareo-
bas kriminaluri da socialu-
ri kuTxiT, eqnebaT Tu ara
maT Suqi, gazi...kanonieri
qurdebis mimarT SecvliT Tu
ara politikas?
- araviTar SemTxvevaSi. pi-
riqiT, dRes kriminalic, qur-
dica da moZaladec Cveni xe-
lisuflebaa - saakaSvilis me-
TaurobiT. Cven amas aRmovfx-
vriT da es iqneba Zalian mar-
tivi gasakeTebeli. is mosax-
leobis SecdomaSi Seyvanas
cdilobs. varwmuneb qarTul
sazogadoebas, rom kriminalu-
ri mdgomareoba arc erT Sem-
TxvevaSi, ar gauaresdeba; pi-
riqiT, gaumjobesdeba.
- xelisuflebaSi Tqveni
mosvlis SemTxvevaSi daisje-
bian Tu ar arCevnebis gamyal-
beblebi? amis precedenti ar
yofila aqamde: ayalbebdnen
SevardnaZis periodSi, ayalbe-
ben saakaSvilis periodSi,
magram grZeldeba dausjelo-
bis sindromi...
- dausjelobis sindromi
mudmivad ubiZgebs Semdgom xe-
lisufals aseTive darRvevis-
ken. ra Tqma unda, qveyanaSi
ukve ramdeni weliwadia, sa-
marTlianoba ar arsebobs da,
praqtikulad, aravin isjeba.
ufro metic, isjebian isinic,
visac araferi dauSavebia.
dRes uamravi ukanono patima-
ri gvyavs.
Cven movaxerxebT qveyana-
Si samarTlianobis aRdgenas.
saqarTvelos mosaxleobas
vpirdebi, rom daisjeba yvela
is piri, vinc daarRvevs ka-
nons da monawileobas miiRebs
arCevnebis gayalbebaSi. amis
precedenti saqarTveloSi Se-
iqmneba. es Cemi mxridan gafr-
Txilebacaa da Txovnac, rom
daemorCilon mxolod kanons
da ara - xelisuflebis mxri-
dan gayalbebis ukanono mowo-
debas.
- saqarTvelo aris natos
is arawevri qveyana, romelsac
yvelaze meti samxedro hyavs
avRaneTSi. xelisuflebaSi
Tqveni mosvlis SemTxvevaSi
ras apirebT: gazrdiT Tu Se-
amcirebT am kontingents?
- CvenTvis saamayo unda
iyos partnioroba iseT sa-
xelmwifoebTan, rogoric gax-
lavT amerikis SeerTebuli
Statebi da nato-s wevri sxva
saxelwifoebi. Cvenma qveyanam
unda SeZlos, Rirseulad Se-
asrulos is misia, rasac es
partnioroba avalebs. konkre-
tulad samxedro kontigentis
gazrdis an Semcirebis saWi-
roebas ganvixilavT, magram
evroatlantikur sivrcisken
ltolvas Cven ar SevaCerebT,
piriqiT, gavaZlierebT da da-
vaCqarebT. Cven am partnio-
robas did pativs vcemT da
momavalSi mis gaRrmavebas Se-
vecdebiT.
_ madloba interviusTvis.
esaubra
eliso janaSia.
19 gv.
biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:
`saakaSvili mzadaa, gaxdes absoluturi diqtatori, oRond mas ar aqvs amis resursebi~
21saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
mas Semdeg, rac `qarTuli
ocneba~ batoni biZina ivaniSvi-
lis saxiT politikur sarbiel-
ze gamoCnda, misi mowinaaRmdege
mxridan ar wydeba imaze saubari,
rom baton ivaniSvilTan `nafta-
linidan amoRebuli~, an sulac,
`SevardnaZis xelisuflebis sa-
xeebi~ arian. erTis mxriv, bato-
ni robert sturuas Tqmisa ar
iyos, naftalinSi imas inaxaven,
rasac ufrTxildebian, meore _
sasaciloa TiTis gaSvera sxve-
bisken, roca `SevardnaZis saxe~,
TviT saqarTvelos moqmedi pre-
zidenti, mixeil saakaSvilia.
biZina ivaniSvili `qarTuli
ocnebis~ Semadgenlobis siis da-
saxelebas martis bolos, an ap-
rilis dasawyisSi gegmavso, gvam-
cnes sainformacio gamoSvebaSi.
aba, mere iqneba SevardnaZis mmar-
Tvelobisdroindeli saxeebis ga-
tan-gamotana, Tu rogorme `qar-
Tuli ocnebis~ siaxloves mainc
aRmoCndnen, magram, manamde, arse-
buli xelisuflebis terariumSi
gadavixedoT:
#1 _ saqarTvelos preziden-
ti mixeil saakaSvili _ Se-
vardnaZis `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~
wevri. parlamentis wevri `moqa-
laqeTa kavSiridan~ 1995 wels.
parlamentis sakonstitucio iu-
ridiul sakiTxTa da kanoniere-
bis komitetis Tavmjdomare
1995-1998 wlebSi. fraqcia `sa-
qarTvelos moqalaqeTa kavSiris~
Tavmjdomare 1998-1999 wlebSi.
SevardnaZis mTavrobis iustici-
is ministri 2000 wels.
adeiSvili zurab _ Se-
vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
saqarTvelos parlametis wevri
2003 wlis dekembramde. parla-
mentSi sakonstitucio iuridi-
ul sakiTxTa da kanonierebis
komitetSi wamyvani specialisti
1996-1999 wlebSi.
baramiZe giorgi _ Se-
vardnaZis xelisuflebis parla-
mentis wevri 1992 wlidan. Se-
vardnaZis `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~
generaluri mdivani 1995-1996
wlebSi. SevardnaZis `moqalaqeTa
kavSiris~ saparlamento fraqcia
`moqalaqeTa kavSiris~ Tavmjdo-
mare 1996 wlidan. SevardnaZis
xelisuflebis dros, parlamen-
tis Tavdacvisa da uSiSroebis
komitetis Tavmjdomare 2000-
2002 wlebSi.
beJaSvili levan _ Se-
vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros
saqarTvelos parlamentis sap-
roceduro sakiTxTa da wesebis
komitetis aparatSi ufrosi da
wamyvani specialisti 1997-1999
wlebSi, aseve, departamentis
ufrosi 1999-2003 wlebSi.
gabaSvili kote _ Sevar-
dnaZis saxelmwifo sabWos wevri
1992 wels. SevardnaZis parla-
metis wevri 1992 wlis oqtom-
bridan 1992 wlis dekembramde.
SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
saqarTvelos ganaTlebis minist-
ri 1992-1993 wlebSi. Sevardna-
Zis mmarTvelobis dros Tbili-
sis meri 1993 wels. SevardnaZis
mmarTvelobis dros saqarTve-
los elCi germaniis federaci-
ul respublikaSi 1993-2004
wlebSi.
gogoriSvili xaTuna _
SevardnaZis xelisuflebis par-
lamentis garemos dacvis da bu-
nebrivi resursebis komisiis wam-
yvani specialisti 1993-1995
wlebSi. SevardnaZis parlamen-
tis aparatis ufrosi 1995-2003
wlebSi.
kublaSvili kote _ Se-
vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
saqarTvelos parlamentis apara-
tis iuridiuli departamentis
mTavari specialisti, ganyofi-
lebis gamge 1996-1998 wlebSi.
SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
centraluri saarCevno komisiis
iuristi 1995 wels.
maWavariani mixeil _
saqarTvelos parlamentis wevri
SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
1995-1999 wlebSi. SevardnaZis
mier Seqmnili `moqalaqeTa kav-
Siris~ generaluri mdivani. Se-
vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
sagadasaxado Semosavlebis mi-
nistri 1999-2001 wlebSi. Se-
vardnaZis mmarTvelobis dros,
saqarTvelos parlamentis Tavm-
jdomaris kabinetis ufrosi
200-2002 wlebSi.
merabiSvili ivane _ Se-
vardnaZis xelisuflebis parla-
mentis wevri 1999 wels. Sevar-
dnaZis parlamentis ekonomikuri
politikisa da reformebis komi-
tetis Tavmjdomare 2000 wels.
wereTeli gigi _ Sevar-
dnaZis xelisuflebaSi gamoCnda
1995 wels. Tbilisis vice-pre-
mieri iyo SevardnaZis mTavrobis
dros 1996-1998 wlebSi. 1998
wels iyo Tbilisis sakrebulos
wevri da fraqcia `Tbilisis~
Tavmjdomare 1998 wels. Sevar-
dnaZis `moqalaqeTa kavSiridan~
e. w SevardnaZis parlamentis
wevri 1999 wels da aseve Se-
vardnaZis parlamentis Tavmjdo-
maris moadgile 2000 wels da
aseve, parlamentis xazinadarTa
Tavmjdomare...
anbanis mixedviT, am siis sx-
vagvarad dawyebac SeiZleba da
gagrZelebac, magram Tavis Sewu-
xebad ar Rirs, am patara saqar-
TveloSi xom isedac yvelam yve-
laferi icis.
parlamentis wevrTa gansazR-
vruli raodenobidan gamomdina-
re, mere ra, rom SevardnaZis
mmarTvelobis dros parlamentis
wevri ar iyo romelime dRevan-
deli xelisufali, misi xelqve-
iTi xom iyo da mas Sescicineb-
da TvalebSi?
magaliTad, rogorc saakaSvi-
lis parlamentis moqmedi Tavmj-
domare daviT baqraZe, rome-
lic SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis
dros, saqarTvelos sagareo saq-
meTa struqturebSi muSaobda
ganiaraRebisa da kontrolis
sammarTvelos ufrosad da sam-
xedro politikuri departamen-
tis ufrosis moadgiled 1998-
2002 wlebSi, 2002 wlidan ki,
uSiSroebis sabWoSi gadavida.
an sulac kublaSvilipavle _ SevardnaZis mmarTve-
lobis dros, 1997 wels dainiS-
na saqarTvelos iusticiis sab-
Wos aparatis kancelariaSi kon-
sultantad. 1998 wels, _ sa-
qarTvelos iusticiis sabWos
sasamarTlo personalis seqto-
ris ufros konsultantad.
2000 wels _ sagadasaxado sami-
nistros centraluri aparatis
iuridiuli sammarTvelos ufro-
sad da imave wels gadayvanil
iqna saministros aparatis iuri-
diul sakiTxTa sammarTvelos
ufrosad. 2001 wels dainiSna
saqarTvelos antikorufciul
biuroSi samarTlis eqspertis
Tanamdebobaze.
ra moTvlis yvelas, vin sad
aris gadamxtar-gadmomxtari da
ratom, an vin visi Zmaa, biZaSvili,
mamidaSvili Tu naTel-mironi; an
SevardnaZisdroindel im wvril-
fexobas, asakidan gamomdinare, ma-
Sin verafriT rom ver moxvde-
bodnen imdroindel parlamentSi,
magram dRes uzomod gaibernen...
ai, esaa `Sexvedra warsulTan~
da `SevardnaZis mumificirebuli
gvamebi~, Tan Seulamazebeli da
ara is, rasac prezidenti saa-
kaSvili uwodebs, saxelisuflebo
televiziebi ki atrialeben...
maia WeliZe
SevardnaZis mTavrobis mumificirebuli gvamebi
saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
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beniamin nneTaniahu: aar ddavuSveb CCemma xalxma SSetevis SSiSis qqveS iicxovros
isarelis premier-mministris be-
niamin neTaniahus gancxadebiT, is-
raeli uars ambobs iranTan da-
kavSirebul sanqciebze. amis Sesaxeb
,,bi-bbi-ssi” iuwyeba.
,,israeli iranis winaaRmdeg
diplomatiuri da ekonomikuri sanq-
ciebis amoqmedebas sulgrZelad
eloda, magram moTminebasac sazRvari aqvs. verc erTi Cvengani Tavs
meti lodinis uflebas ver miscems. ar davuSveb, Cemma xalxma
Setevis SiSis qveS icxovros”, _ amis Sesaxeb neTaniahum amerika-
israelis konferenciis farglebSi sityviT gamosvlisas ganacxada.
misi TqmiT, irans ar unda miscen birTvuli iaraRis Seqmnis
saSualeba.
sityviT gamosvlamde neTaniahu TeTr saxlSi aSS-iis prezi-
dentma barak obamam miiRo.
amerikis administraciis warmomadgenelTa gancxadebiT, neTa-
niahum aRniSna, rom israels iranze samxedro ieriSis Sesaxeb
gadawyvetileba jer ar miuRia, Tumca, Zalis gamoyenebis ufle-
bas itovebs.
`medianiusi~
22 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
44 TTvveezzee mmeettiiaa,, rraacc aamm TTeemmaazzee
llaappaarraakkoobbeenn.. uuffrroo aaqqttuuaalluurrii
mmaass SSeemmddeegg ggaaxxddaa,, rraacc ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-
llooss pprreezziiddeennttmmaa mmiixxeeiill ssaaaakkaaSS-
vviillmmaa mmaass xxuulliiggaannii uuwwooddaa.. rraa
ggaaxxddaa 5533-ee sskkoolliiss mmoosswwaavvlliiss mmii-
xxeeiill aalleeqqssiiZZiiss sskkoolliiddaann ggaarriiccxx-
vviiss rreeaalluurrii mmiizzeezzii jjeerrjjeerroobbiiTT
uuccnnoobbiiaa..
aamm TTeemmaazzee ,,,,ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTii““
mmiixxeeiill aalleeqqssiiZZiiss ddeeddaass qqaallbbaattoonn
lali lekiSvils eessaauubbrraa
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo llaallii,, TTaavvddaappiirr-
vveellaadd mmooggvviiyyeevviiTT,, TTuu rraa mmooxxddaa
ssiinnaammddvviilleeSSii 22001111 wwlliiss 1133 ooqq-
ttoommbbeerrss ddaa rraa mmiizzeezziiTT ggaarriiccxxeess
TTqqvveennii SSvviillii sskkoolliiddaann??
_ taras SavSiSvili skolaSi
axali mosuli iyo, rodesac kre-
baze ganacxada, mkacri refor-
matori viqnebi, SaSkinis uaxloe-
si megobari var, skolaSi wesrigs
davamyarebo. man aseve ganacxada,
rom skolidan ramodenime mos-
wavles gaagdebda, samagaliTod
dasjida maT, raTa sxvebisTvis es
wesrigis dasamyareblad gamoyene-
buli meTodi yofiliyo. erT kvi-
raSi skolidan ramdenime maswav-
lebeli da moswavle gauSva. bo-
los mixeilis klaseli irakli
mWedliSvili garicxa, romelic
am skolaSi erTi wlis win gadmo-
vida. manamde mas ramodenime sko-
la hqonda gamocvlili. klase-
lebma gadawyvites Tanadgoma ga-
moexataT da direqtorisTvis
TxovniT miemarTaT, raTa mWed-
liSvili klasidan ar gaericxa.
Cemma Svilmac daicva Tavisi Ta-
naklaseli. direqtorma ganucxa-
da, Tu is Seni megobaria, Senc mas
mihyvebi ukano da isic garicxa.
imis miuxedavad, rom Cems Svils
mandaturidan dawyebuli maswa-
vleblebiT damTavrebuli yvela
kargad axasiaTebs, direqtorma ma-
inc misi skolidan garicxvis ga-
dawyvetileba miiRo, Tumca CemT-
vis gaugebaria, ris safuZvelze.
rodesac skolaSi mivedi SavSiS-
vilma ori winadadeba SemomTavaza.
pirveli, Cumad, uxmaurod gaita-
neT sabuTebi da Tqveni Svili ga-
daiyvaneT kerZo skolaSi da meo-
re winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi Svilis
winaaRmdeg prokuraturaSi sisx-
lis samarTlis saqmes aRvZravo.
rasakvirvelia, me ar daveTanxme
da vuTxari, rom es ar aris re-
forma, rasac prezidenti qveyana-
Si atarebs, es aris saSineli mee-
qanizmi bavSvis daSinebis da misi
skolidan gaSvebis. Man ar miTxra
Tu ra konkretuli qmedeba Caidi-
na aleqsiZem mxolod is aRniSna,
rom mas sityvieri Seuracxyofa
miayena, Tumca raSi gamoixateba es
sityvieri Seuracxyofa, dRemde
ar vici.
__ TTuu mmiimmaarrTTeeTT ggaannaaTTlleebbiiss ssaa-
mmiinniissttrrooss??
_ ganaTlebis saministros im
dResve mivmarTe. saministroSi di-
mitri SaSkins SuaRamemde velo-
debodi. SigniT Sesvla rom ver
movaxerxe mis korteJs gadavude-
qi. ministrma ukve yvelaferi ico-
da. miTxra, rom mas hqonda faqte-
bi, video masala, Tu rogor aye-
nebs aleqsiZe Seuracxyofas di-
reqtors. me mas vTxove, eCvenebi-
na es Canawerebi da Tu Cemi Svi-
li damnaSave aRmoCndeboda, di-
reqtors sajarod bodiSs movux-
didi. amis Semdeg 4 Tveze meti
gavida, magram aranari video masa-
la ar minaxavs. am drois ganmav-
lobaSi werilebi davwere ganaT-
lebis ministris, prezidentis, sa-
xalxo damcvelis, prokuraturis
saxelze, magram pasuxi arsaidan
iyo, garda saxalxo damcvelisa.
swored man gamoiZia es saqme da
sakmaod obieqturi daskvna dado,
ris mixedviTac bavSvTa uflebebis
konvenciis 33 punqtia darRveuli.
amis garda, mivmarTe 6 sajaro
skolas, raTa mixeili aRedginaT
romelime sajaro skolaSi, Tumca
dadebiTi pasuxi ver miviRe. sity-
vierad meubnebodnen, rom miTanag-
rZnobdnen, magarm bavSvis aRsadge-
nad saministrodan sWirdebodaT
Tanxmoba.
__ rraammooddeenniimmee ddRRiiss wwiinn ggaavvrr-
cceellddaa iinnffoorrmmaacciiaa iimmiiss TTaaoobbaazzee,,
rroomm mmiixxeeiill aalleeqqssiiZZee TTiiTTqqmmiiss oorrii
TTvveeaa 7777-ee ssaajjaarroo sskkoollaaSSii
iirriiccxxeebbaa,, TTuummccaa bbaavvSSvvii sskkoollaaSSii
aarr ggaammooccxxaaddeebbuullaa.. sskkoolliiss ddiirreeqq-
ttoorriiss nniinnaa xxiiddaaSSeelliiss TTqqmmiiTT,,
TTqqvveennss SSvviillss ggaaccddeenniillii ssaaaaTTeebbii
sskkoollaaSSii ssiiaarruulliiss ppaarraalleelluurraadd
aaRRuuddggeebbaa.. rraammddeennaadd SSeeeessaabbaammeebbaa eess
iinnffoorrmmaacciiaa ssiimmaarrTTlleess??
_ rac Seexeba am gancxadebas,
es morigi tyuilia. me maqvs am
yvelafris damadasturebeli
iuridiuli sabuTi, Tu ra akavSi-
rebs mixeil aleqsiZes 77-e sko-
lasTan. bavSvma gadawyvita weli
ar daekarga da eqsternad gamoc-
debi Caebarebina. amisaTvis mivmar-
Te resurs centrs, sadac didi
winaaRmdegoba Semxvda. isini ar
gvaZlevdnen saSualebas davregis-
trirebuliyaviT. amitom davukav-
Sirdi saxalxo damcvelsa da Cems
advokats, romelmac maT auxsna,
rom mqonda iuridiuli ufleba
Cemi Svili dameregistrirebina.
amis Semdeg miiRes Cemi gancxade-
ba, sadac viTxov eqsternis gamoc-
debis Cabarebas 53-e skolaSi. 20
Tebervals miviRe resurs centri-
dan werili, sadac naTqvamia _ ga-
mocdis Casabareblad da konsul-
taciisTvis 77-e sajaro skolas
mimarTeTo. rodesac am skolas mi-
vmarTe, direqtorma damidastura,
rom Cven SesaZlebloba gvqonda
Cagvebarebina gamocdebi.
skolaSi aRdgenaze laparaki
ar yofila. am gancxadebis
gakeTebiT ganaTlebis sami-
nistrom kidev erTxel ic-
rua. saministrosgan mo-
viTxov gamoaqveynos Cemi
gancxadeba, Tu rodis miv-
marTe 77-e skolas daregis-
trirebis Taobaze, rodis
Caricxes Cemi Svili am sko-
laSi da rodis viyavi in-
formirebuli amis Sesaxeb.
__ TTqqvveenn aaggrreeTTvvee pprreezziiddeennttTTaann
iiTTxxoovvTT SSeexxvveeddrraass.. rraa uunnddaa uuTTxx-
rraaTT mmaass??
_ diax, moviTxov Sexvedras,
radgan prezidenti aris dezin-
formirebuli da warmodgena ar
aqvs ra xdeba sinamdvileSi. SaS-
kinma daijera is, rac uTxra cru
direqtorma, man es informacia mi-
utana prezidents. marTalia, isi-
ni misi Tanagundelebi arian, mag-
ram rogorc etyoba Tanagundele-
bi ki ara mtrebi arian. minda ico-
des prezidentma, rom misi re-
formis mteria SavSiSvili. ro-
gor SeiZleba aseTi direqtori
marTavdes bavSvebs da skolas?
mixeil aleqsiZis dacva Tavis
Tavze axlagazrda iuristTa aso-
ciaciam iTava. rogorc saias
iuristi lika wiklauri acxadebs,
aleqsiZis winaaRmdeg konstitu-
ciiTa da konvenciiT gaTvaliswi-
nebuli uflebebi uxeSad dairRva.
,, mogexsenebaT mixeil aleqsiZe
skolidan gairicxa. garicxvis sa-
fuZvlad miTiTebulia skolis Si-
naganawesis uxeSi darRveva da
swored aRniSnuli faqti, rom-
lis safuZvelzec moxda misi ga-
ricxva. gasaCivrebulia sasamarT-
loSi. garicxvis SesaZlebloba
saqarTvelos kanoni zogadi ganaT-
lebis Sesaxeb iTvaliswinebs, mag-
ram iTvaliswinebs gamonaklis
SemTxvevebSi. kerZod, iq aris
sxvadasxva disciplinuri saxde-
lebi da garicxvis ufleba mxo-
lod da mxolod disciplinur
komitets aqvs. faqtobrivad, es
aris administraciuli organo,
romelic valdebulia yvela gare-
moeba gamoikvlios, Seafasos. Tu
CaTvlis, rom darRvevaa Cadeni-
li, mere unda Seafasos ramdenad
mizanSewonilia moswavlis ga-
ricxva da mxolod amis Semdeg
Rebulobs am gadawyvetilebas. ka-
nonidan gamomdinare am komitetis
valdebulebaa, rodesac aseTi sa-
kiTxi ixileba aucileblad mSo-
bels ecnobos da im bavSvs, visi
interesic SeiZleba Seilaxos,
rom im adamians mieces SesaZleb-
loba ganxilvaSi miiRos monawi-
leoba da Tavisi pozicia daafiq-
siros. Cvens SemTxvevaSi ki iciT
ra moxda? 2011 wlis 13 oqtom-
bers moxda raRac incidenti, rac
konkretulad iq aRniSnuli ar
aris. arsebobs direqtoris moxse-
nebiTi baraTi, sadac weria, rom
uxeSad iqna darRveuli skolis
Sinaganawesi da iTxovs, rom mox-
des bavSvis skolidan garicxva. es
waredgina disciplinur komitets.
es iyo imis safuZveli, rom maT
daewyoT am saqmis warmoeba da Se-
sabamisad gamoekvliaT garemoebebi.
arc bavSvi da arc misi mSobeli
amis Sesaxeb informirebulebi ar
iyvnen. rodesac am saqmiT saxal-
xo damcveli dainteresda, gaesa-
ubra am komitetis wevrebs da
aRmoCnda, rom yvela wevri sxva-
dasxva informacias aZlevs, Tu
rodis Catarda kreba, iyo Tu ara
faruli kenWisyra da a.S. realu-
rad am gadawyvetilebaSi direq-
tori monawileobda da komitetis
or wevrze (sul 4 wevri iyo),
misi mxridan iyo zewola. realu-
rad raSi gamoixata darRveva, ar-
sad ar ikiTxeba. weria rom Sina-
ganawesi uxeSad daarRvia. ras da-
eyrdno komiteti, ucnobia, arana-
iri mtkicebuleba ar arsebobs,
erTaderTi mtkicebuleba direq-
toris moxsenebiTi baraTia. faq-
tobrivad, direqtoris sityvaze
dayrdnobiT miiRes gadawyvetile-
ba bavSvis garicxvis Sesaxeb.
aleqsiZesTan mimarTebaSi amoRebu-
li iqna mTlianad masalebi, iyo
Tu ara rodisme disciplinarul
pasuximgeblobaSi micemuli . er-
TaderTi rac moxda garicxvamde
11 TviT adre mas qonda werilo-
biTi gafrTxileba, rom mixeil
aleqsiZem Turme mandaturs uxe-
Sad mimarTa da aRniSnulis sa-
fuZvelze eZleva gafrTxileba.
analogiurad am saqmeze gvaqvs im
maswavleblis gancxadeba, romlis
klasSic moxda es yvelaferi da
is ambobs, es uxeSi mimarTva gamo-
ixata imaSi, rom aleqsiZem gvariT
mimarTa mandaturs. erTi momentic
aris, ramdenad mZime darRveva iyo
es, raTa CaTvalo garicxvis sa-
fuZvlad. aqve mniSvnelovania er-
Ti garemoeba _ kanoniT dadgeni-
lia, rodesac disciplinuri dana-
Saulis Cadenidan 6 Tve gava da
Tu im periodSi raRac sxva ar
dagemata, iTvlebi, rom ar gaqvs
araferi gadacdomaSi. Sesabamisad,
11 Tvis Semdeg, rodesac ixilebo-
da es sakiTxi amaze apelireba iyo
kanonis darRveva,“ _ ganacxada
wiklaurma.
prezidentis gancxadebaze, sa-
dac is aleqsiZes xulignad moix-
seniebs da aRniSnavs, rom mas
swavla vakis garda arc erT sko-
laSi ar surso, advokati pasu-
xobs: ,, gamovexmaurebi preziden-
tis gancxadebas, sadac naTqvamia,
rom aleqsiZe vakeSi swavlas
iTxovso. zogadi ganaTlebis Sesa-
xeb kanonis meSvide muxli iTva-
liswinebs am SesaZleblobas. ker-
Zod, saxelmwifos valdebulebaa
uzrunvelyos, rom bavSvma ganaT-
leba miiRos sacxovrebel adgil-
Tan maqsimalurad axlos. am Sem-
TxvevaSi bavSvi cxovrobs vakeSi.
Sesabamisad, kanonidan gamomdinare
ufleba aqvs ganaTleba miiRos sa-
cxovrebel adgilTan axlos da
imitom iTxovs,“ _ aRniSna advo-
katma da aqve dasZina: ,,imedi
gvaqvs, rom prezidentis gancxade-
ba sasamarTloze ar iqoniebs gav-
lenas da kanonierad, srulyofi-
lad iqneba saqme gamoZiebuli.“
rac Seexeba sasamarTlos pir-
veli mosmenas, igi 10 Tebervals
unda gamarTuliyo, Tumca sxva-
dasxva mizezebis gamo 1 martisT-
vis gadaido. 1 marts gaimarTa mi-
xeil aleqsiZis ojaxis sarCelTan
dakavSirebiT mosamzadebeli gan-
xilva, sadac mosamarTle orive
mxaris masalebs gaecno. sasamarT-
lom damatebiTi informacia mo-
iTxova da 12 marts kvlav mosam-
zadebeli Sexvedra gaimarTeba.
aleqsiZis ojaxi disciplinebuli
komitetis aqtis baTilad cnobas
moiTxovs, romlis safuZvelzec
iqna gacemuli direqtoris brZane-
ba moswavlis garicxvis Taobaze.
erTi ram cxadia. mixeil aleq-
siZe skolidan Tavisi Tanaklase-
lis irakli mWedliSvilis gverd-
Si dgomisTvis garicxes. mWedliS-
vili swavlas sxva skolaSi ganag-
rZobs. aleqsiZe ki sasamarTlos
gadawyvetilebis molodinSia.
salome kakauriZe
xuligani Tu reformis msxverpli?
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socialuri
dazRvevis sivrce
SvedeTis samefoSi socialu-
ri dazRvevis sistema gardaqmnas
ganicdis. socialuri dazRvevis
Zveli sqemiT sargebloben mxo-
lod 1937 wlamde dabadebuli
dasaqmebulebi da TviTdasaqmebu-
lebi, romelTa wliuri Semosava-
li aRemateboda 43300 Svedur
kronas. socialuri dazRvevis
axali sqemiT sargebloben 1938
wlidan dabadebuli dasaqmebule-
bi da TviTdasaqmebulebi, romel-
Ta wliuri Semosavali Seadgenda
17935 Svedur kronas. gansakuT-
rebiT maRali Semosavlebis mqone
dasaqmebulTa da TviTdasaqmebul-
TaTvis moqmedebs premialuri sa-
pensio sqema. am sqemebis gansxva-
vebis miuxedavad, qveyanaSi damk-
vidrebulia principi `SvedeTis
samefoSi dasaqmebuli yvela ada-
miani uzrunvelyofili iqnes so-
cialuri dazRvevis garantiebiT~.
dafinansebis wyaroebi
SvedeTis samefoSi dazRveuls
Semosavlebis 7 procents Seaqvs
mxolod asakis mixedviT
sapensio fondSi. Sesaba-
misi daangariSebisaTvis
saWiro minimaluri wli-
uri Semosavali Seadgens
41237 Svedur kronas.
amas garda axali sapen-
sio sqemis Sesabamisad,
Semosavlebis 0,5 procen-
ti gadaecema premialur
sapensio fonds administ-
raciuli xarjebis dasa-
farad.
TviTdasaqmebulebi as-
akis mixedviT sapensio
fondSi ixdian TviTgan-
cxadebuli Semosavlebis
7 procents da saxelmwifos mier
Sefasebuli Semosavlebis 10,21
procents, aqedan 1,7 procenti
iricxeba marCenalis dakargvis
sapensio fondSi.
damsaqmeblebi asakis mixedviT
sapensio fondSi ixdian maT sa-
kuTrebaSi arsebuli sawarmoebis
saxelfaso fondis 10,21 pro-
cents, damatebiT 1,7 procents
ixdian marCenalis dakargvis sa-
pensio fondSi.
pensiis daniSvnis
pirobebi da moculoba
SvedeTis samefoSi rogorc
Zveli, aseve axali sqemis mixed-
viT garantirebulia pensia.
1937 wlamde dabadebuli mar-
toxela pensionerTaTvis wliuri
pensia 90312 Svedur kronas Se-
adgens, ojaxSi mcxovrebi pensio-
nerTaTvis, Tu isini SvedeTis sa-
mefoSi dasaqmebuli iyvnen ara
nakleb 40 weli, maTi wliuri
pensia 80500 Sveduri kronaa.
1938 wlis Semdgom dabade-
bul martoxela pensionerTaTvis
wliuri pensia aseve 90312 Sve-
dur kronas Seadgens, xolo
ojaxSi mcxovreb pensionerTaTvis
wliuri pensia 80660 Sveduri
kronaa.
SvedeTis samefoSi asakis mi-
xedviT pensia ar ibegreba gadasa-
xadebiT, yovelwliurad xdeba mi-
si sainflacio indeqsacia.
Zveli saqmis Sesabamisi Semo-
savlebTan dakavSirebuli asakis
mixedviT pensia SromiT staJis
15 saukeTeso wlis saSualo Se-
mosavlis 60 procents Seadgens
da weliwadSi aranakleb 43 300
Svedur kronas aRwevs. naklebi
Semosavlebis mqone pensionere-
bisTvis gaicema kompensacia, ro-
melic martoxela pensionerTaT-
vis minimaluri pensiis 96 pro-
cents, xolo ojaxSi mcxovreb
pensionerTaTvis minimaluri pen-
siis 78,5 procents Seadgens.
SvedeTis samefoSi, umuSev-
robis dazRvevis salaroebi, ma-
Ti araerTgzis privatizaciis
mcdelobisa, kvlav rCebian Sve-
deTis profesiuli kavSirebis
centraluri gaerTianebis marT-
vaSi, qveyanaSi sawarmoebSi ube-
duri SemTxvevebisgan dazRvevis
sistema saxelmwifos xelSia,
xolo dazRveva sxva mimarTule-
biT kerZoa.
invalidTa
Semweobis moculoba
SvedeTis samefoSi saxelmwi-
fos mier garantirebuli inva-
lidTa Semweoba weliwadSi
101760 Svedur kronas Seadgens.
invalidTa Semweoba am moculo-
biT gaicema mxolod im pirebze,
vinc qveyanaSi dasaqmebuli iyo
minimum 40 weli. SvedeTis same-
foSi dausaqmebel TiToeul wel-
ze invalidobis Semweoba 2,5 pro-
centiT iklebs, xolo sapensio
asakamde mxolod SvedeTis same-
foSi dasaqmebis SemTxvevaSi inva-
lidis Semweobas yovelwliurad
27117 Sveduri krona emateba.
Sromisunarianobis mcire saSua-
lo da didi xarisxis dakargvisas
sruli Semweobis 25 procents,
50 procents, 75 procents iRebs
invalidi, xolo sruli 100 pro-
centi Semweobisas gaicema sruli
Sromisuunarobisas.
Semweobis moculoba
marCenalis dakargvisas
SvedeTis samefoSi marCenalis
dakargvisas saxelmwifos mier ga-
rantirebuli Semweoba weliwadSi
90312 Svedur kronas Seadgens.
marCenalis dakargvis Semweoba
ibegreba gadasaxadebiT da xdeba
misi yovelwliuri sainflacio
indeqsacia, socialuri dazRvevis
fondis SenatanebTan dakavSirebu-
li Semweoba asakis mixedviT pen-
siis moculobis 55 procents Se-
adgens. Tu gardacvlil marCe-
nals am pensiis miRebis ufleba
gaaCnda. marCenaldakargul qvriv-
ze Semweoba gaicema marCenalis
gardacvalebis dRidan 12 Tvis
ganmavlobaSi, Tu
qvrivs hyavs 12 wlam-
de asakis bavSvebi mar-
Cenalis dakargvis Sem-
weoba miecema TiToeu-
li maTganis 12 wlis
asakis miRwevamde.
oblebze marCena-
lis dakargvis Semweo-
ba gaicema yovelTviu-
rad 16900 Sveduri
kronis moculobiT.
oblebi mas iReben 18
wlis (studentTaTvis
20 wlis) asakis miR-
wevamde. orive mSob-
liT oboli gardacv-
lili mSoblebis pensiis 35 pro-
cents iRebs. Tu orive mSobliT
oboli ramdenimea, maT Semweobas
mSoblebis pensiis kidev 20 pro-
centi emateba da igi TiToeulze
Tanabrad nawildeba.
daviT arabiZe ganaTlebis erovnuli
kavSiris mdivani
oriode wlis win narkoma-
niisa da narkobiznesis winaaR-
mdeg brZolis egidiT Sss-m ga-
moacxada sakontaqto telefo-
ni, romelzec dakavSireba Se-
eZlo nebismier msurvels, ra-
Ta moewodebina informacia
narkomanTa TavSeyris, reali-
zaciisada a.S. faqtebis Sesa-
xeb. policia Setyobinebis da-
dasturebis SemTxvevaSi in-
formators aTas larian pre-
mias hpirdeboda. amasTan, Sss
pirovnebis anonimurobis ga-
rantias iZleoda.
informaciis amgvari
saxiT miRebas uamravi ga-
uTvaliswinebeli SemTxve-
va mohyva. iyo cru zarebi,
piradi wyenis niadagze Se-
suli Setyobinebebi da
sxva. amasTan erTad sco-
davdnen policielebic.
xelmZRvanelobasTan qule-
bis daweris mizniT isini
akiTxavdnen, viTomda Sesu-
li informaciebis safuZ-
velze narkotikebTan dakavSi-
rebiT nasamarTlevebs, ajari-
mebdnen maT, zogierTi uRirsi
ki fulis keTebazec gadavida.
sabolood ise moxda, rom
premialuri Tanxa aravisze ga-
cemula, iniciativa Cavarda.
samagierod, didi gasaqani mie-
ca narkomanias. narkobiznesi
ayvavda. biujeti da cixeebi
aivso narkotikebze dakavebu-
lebisagan Sesuli sajarimo
saxadebiTa da ukanonod daka-
vebulebiT.
specialistTa ganmartebiT,
merabiSvilis uwyebam narkoti-
kul danaSaulTan brZola pir-
wmindad waago.
arafris momtani axali ni-
ciativa.
cota xnis win Sss-s veb-
gverdze axali iniciativa _
`gviTxariT, rogor gemsaxu-
roT~ gamoCnda. masSi ori sa-
xis kiTxvaria _ detaluri da
blici. kiTxvarebis gaCenis mi-
zezad Sss xalxze zrunvas
asaxelebs _ CvenTvis mniSvne-
lovania vicodeT, Tu ra gawu-
xebT, rom ukeT davgegmoT po-
liciis saqmianoba. aRsaniSna-
via, rom ministrma aseTi mi-
marTva sakuTari `feisbuqis~
meSveobiTac gaavrcela.
kiTxvariT Sss moqalaqeebs
mimarTavs _ CamoTvaleT prio-
riteti, rasac policiam unda
miaqcios yuradReba, rom moqa-
laqeebma Tavi usafrTxod da
daculad igrZnon, iqve CamoT-
vlilia danaSaulTa saxeebi,
romlebTan brZola moqalaqes
pirvel rigSi gadasawyvetad
miaCnia. aris Rrmad dasafiqre-
beli grafac _ ra unda gaake-
Tos policiam, rom Tqveni
prioriteti ganaxorcieldes.
organo, romelic
msoflio masStabiT
`magaliTis mimcemia~
TviTon iTxovs
daxmarebas
daTo CerqeziSvili(Tadarigis maiori, Sss Stabis
yofili ufrosi inspeqtori):
`is, rom Sss dabneulia da
aRar icis, erTmaneTis romel
saxeobasTan brZolaze aiRos
aqcenti, kiTxvaridanac sCans.
magram gaocebas iwvevs mimarT-
vis is punqti, sadac saminist-
ro mosaxleobisagan iTxovs
rekomendaciebs danaSaulTan
winaaRmdeg brZolaze, amisaT-
vis arsebobs statistika, ar-
sebobs operatiuli saqmiano-
bis gamocdileba.
gasaocaria, rom iwyeba,
romlis kriminalTan da ko-
rufciasTan brZolis gamocdi-
lebis gasacnobad sxvadasxva
qveynebis warmomadgenlobebi
Camodian, kiTxulobs _ ra un-
da gaakeTos policiam mdgoma-
reobis gamosasworeblad.
sul sxva kuTxiT ganixi-
lavs merabiSvilis kiTxvars
damnaSaveobis sociologiis
specialisti naili cxovreba-
Ze _`imisaTvis, rom kiTxvarma
aucileblad miaRwios Ss mi-
nistramde, aucilebelia, re-
gionis, qalaqis, raionis, qu-
Cis dasaxeleba. miTiTebuli
unda iyos sqesi da asaki.
kiTxvaris bolos ki miamitu-
rad weria _ sakontaqto te-
lefonis miTiTeba nebayoflo-
biTia. bolo minaweri winaaRm-
degobaSi modis TavSi, auci-
lebel velebSi miTiTebul
moTxovnebTan. bolo punqts
pasuxi romc ar gaeces, eleq-
tronuli kiTxvaris gamomg-
zavnis vinaoba adgili dasad-
genia. rodesac mosaxleobaSi
musirebs mosazreba, rom yve-
las da yvelgan usmenen, msgav-
si tipis kiTxvarze pasuxis
gacema namdvilad bevri ar iq-
neba.
sociologis azriT, kiTx-
vars ufro Sors mimavali az-
ri da mizani unda hqondes,
vidre qveyanaSi kriminogenuri
viTarebis gamosworebaa.
zaza bilixoZe
merabiSvili aRiarebs,rom kriminogenuri viTareba umarTavia
socialuri dazRvevissistema SvedeTSi
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mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT
putinis gamarjvebas saprotes-
to mitingebis monawileebic ki
aRiareben, Tumca radganac ar ar-
sebobs Zalauflebis gadacemis
misaRebi formula, TavisTavad sa-
SiSia viTareba, roca qveynis moma-
vali erTi adamianis xelSia. pu-
tinma unda iswavlos Zalaufle-
bis gayofa, weren ucxouri media-
saSualebebi. dasavleTi ixsenebs
sxva qveynebis eklian gzas demok-
ratiisken da ruseTisTvis maSve-
li rgolis momarjvebazec uTi-
Tebs.
The Financial Times: moskoviscentrSi orSabaTs demonstran-tebsa da policias Soris Setake-ba moxda, daakaves aseulobiT ada-miani, romlebic saprezidento ar-CevnebSi darRvevebs aprotestebd-nen. putini albaT isedac gaimar-jvebda meore turSi _ miwerebisgareSe, Tumca ucxoeli da adgi-lobrivi damkvirveblebi mkacradakritikeben kremls arasamarTli-ani winasaarCevno kampaniis gamoda arCevnebis dRes daSvebul uam-rav darRvevaze miuTiTeben. imTa-viTve moaxdines konkurenti par-tiebisa da kandidatebis diskva-lifikacia, maSin, roca putins sae-Tero drois 70 procenti dauTmes.
Foreign Policy: putinis saxescremlebi arc ki SeSroboda, ro-ca man moskovSi gamarTuli mitin-gis monawileebis devna daiwyo,wers gamocemis mimomxilveliiulia iofe. `centralizebulikastingis ganyofilebidan~ misu-li uamravi xalxis miuxedavad,de-monstrantebi cdilobdnen, provo-kaciebs ar wamohgebodnen da mani-festacias mSvidobiani xasiaTihqonoda. moulodnelad, policiam
daSlisken mouwoda momitingeebsda `omonelebma~ moednis gaTavi-sufleba daiwyes _ xalxs patim-rebisTvis gankuTvnil operatiu-li manqanebisken miaTrevdnen.
mimomxilveli aRniSnavs, romdaZabul viTarebaSi putini moqme-debis uares variants irCevs xol-me. ase iyo puSkinis moedanze: mo-mitingeebi yinvaSi didxans arcgaCerdebodnen, magram maTi dapa-timrebis brZaneba mainc gaica. ragamovida? `axali wamebulebi~ gai-Cina...
The New York Times: sapreziden-to arCevnebSi STambeWdavi gamar-jvebis Sesaxeb gancxadebis gake-Tebidan meore dResve, putini misilegitimurobis problemas gada-awyda. ucxoelma damkvirveblebmafalsifikaciis braldebebi wamoa-yenes,daumorCilebelma opoziciamki piroba dado, putins 6-wlianivadis bolomde miyvanas ar vaRir-sebTo... amerikam da evrokavSirma
falsifikaciis gamoZieba moiTxo-ves, Tumca putinTan muSaobismzadyofna gamoTqves.
saxelmwifo departamenti, ar-Cevnebis Sedegebis damtkicebisada inauguraciis Semdeg, arCeulprezidentTan TanamSromlobisimeds gamoTqvams. gancxadebaSi ga-moTqmulia SeSfoTeba `im pirobe-bis gamo, romelSic mimdinareobdasaarCevno kampania _ viwropartiu-li interesebisTvis saxelmwiforesursebis gamoyeneba da proce-sualuri darRvevebi arCevnebisdRes~.
arCevnebis Sedegebis falsifi-kaciam problemebi unda Seuqmnasputinis, rogorc politikuri li-deris legitimacias, aRniSnavs ga-mocema.
Sueddeutsche Zeitung: `ar SeiZle-ba saprotesto moZraobis dinami-kis Seufasebloba da axlad arCe-ulma prezidentma unda wamoiwyospolitikuri Serigebis procesi.
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saxelmwi-fos moazrovne pirebi an qveyni-dan gaixvewebian, an maTi radika-lizacia moxdeba.
politikuri Serigebis procesiswrafad ar daiwyeba. werilis av-tori urCevs putins, daiokos Ta-visi ritorika da axsenebs, rogormoixsenia man demonstrantebi ban-derlogebad da moRalateebad.`putini unda ecados maTi ndobismopovebas~,
Le Monde: farTod gavrcelebu-li azris miuxedavad, putini ukveaRar aris erTaderTi batoni qvey-nisa _ am gamarjvebisTvis iseTibrZola mouxda, rogoric arasd-ros.
`ruseTi Seicvala. 4 dekembrisarCevnebis Semdeg uprecedentosaprotesto moZraoba imis maCvene-belia, rom moqalaqeTa axali ka-tegoria iqmneba. misi arsebobakremlma unda gaiTvaliswinos. esaxali saSualo da informirebu-li klasi, bedis ironiiT, sworedputinis dros Camoyalibda da gan-viTarda. maT surT ixilon norma-luri da Tanamedrove qveyana daara federacia, romelsac koruf-cia Wams da sadac sabWouri epo-qis cru faseulobebis aRdgenasurT~, _ vkiTxulobT gamocemissaredaqcio werilSi.
The Guardian: reaqcia, romelicvladimir putinis arCevas mohyva,`mianiSnebs misi fsevdosaxelmwi-fos sazRvrebze. `marTvadi demok-ratia~ xels uwyobda putinis, ro-gorc Zlieri lideris imijisgamyarebas: ara imitom, rom namd-vili demokratiis iluzias qmni-da, aramed imitom, rom moxerxebu-lad marTvis iluzias qmnida~.
amerikelma senatorma jon makkei-nim ruseTSi gamarTul saprezidentoarCevnebs `TaRliToba~ uwoda. `ruse-Tis arCevnebi TaRliToba aRmoCnda.`arabuli gazafxuli~ukve movida ruseTSida igi gagrZeldeba.odesRac igive ganmeor-deba CineTSic. Cven Ta-namedrove msoflioSivcxovrobT _ XXI sau-kuneSi da darwmunebu-li var _ rusi xalxiyovelTvis ver moiT-mens korumpirebul xe-lisuflebas~, _ ga-nacxada man CNN-isTvismicemul interviuSi.
cnobilia, rom makke-ini ruseTis erT-erTiyvelaze radikalurikritikosia. araerTxel gaufrTxile-bia da damuqrebia kidec ruseTis xe-lisufleba, romlis politika da moq-medebebi mas ukiduresad aRizianebs.senatori ewinaaRmdegeba ruseTisa daamerikis SeerTebuli Statebis daax-loebis politikas da miaCnia: ruseTi,romelic msoflio gavlenis dabrune-
bas cdilobs, safrTxes warmoadgensamerikisTvis.
SarSan, dekemberSi, makkeinma saxel-mwifo saTaTbiros arCevnebis Sedegeb-
Si `arabuli gazafxu-lis~ niSnebi SeamCnia.werilic ki miswera pu-tins _ Zvirfaso vlad,arabuli gazafxuligiaxlovdebaT. makkeinsvalSi ar darCa putini_ vietnamis Semdeg mak-keins TavSi ufrialeb-so...
TebervalSi kideverTxel Seaxsena pu-tins _ `Zvirfasovlad, `arabuli ga-zafxuli~ ukve Tqvenmezobladaa~.
amjrad ki, saprezi-dento arCevnebSi putinis gamarjvebi-sa da maneJis moedanze gamarTul `ga-marjvebulTa mitingze~ misi cremle-bis Sesaxeb ganacxada: `Zvirfasovlad, siurprizia! siurprizi! Sen gai-marjve! SenTan erTad rusi xalxictiris!~
rosbalt.ru
am dReebSi sa-
qarTveloSi imyo-
feboda pentagonis
xelmZRvanelis mo-
adgile selesta
volanderi, romel-
mac mouwoda adgi-
lobriv xelisuf-
lebas, moaxdinos
qarTuli armiis
depolitizacia. sa-
mwuxarod, samTav-
robo mediasaSua-
lebebs am gancxa-
debaze sityvac ar
dauZravT.
Tavdacvis erovnul akademi-aSi gamarTul Sexvedraze stu-marma ilaparaka armiis rolzedemokratiul sazogadoebaSida aRniSna: armia unda iyosara marto `kargad gawvrTnilida disciplinebuli~, aramed`unda daicvas politikuri ne-itraliteti da ar dauWirosmxari romelime politikurjgufs~.
pentagonis maRalCinosnis
gamosvlis teqstis gaSuqebazeuari Tqves samTavrobo mediiswarmomadgenlebma, Tumca ameri-kis SeerTebuli Statebis sa-elCom igi srulad gamoaqveyna.
selesta volanderma agreT-ve ganacxada, rom samxedrouwyeba unda iyos apolitikurida amas yvela unda xedavdes;winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, igilegitimurobas dakargavs xal-xSi.
vz.ru
ucxouri presis dRis Tema: arCevnebi ruseTSi
`arabulma gazafxulma~ moskovamde miaRwia
amerika saqarTvelos armiisdepolitizacias iTxovs
25saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
mecnierebis aRmoCena: xa-
lxi, rogorc biologiuri
saxeoba, arc ise gonieria,
rom Sesabamisi lideri air-
Cios.
am gamokvlevis Sedegebi
hitlersa da stalins gaa-
xarebda, amtkicebs The DailyMail. amerikel mecnierTa
jgufma, romelsac fsiqo-
logi devid daningi xelm-
ZRvanelobda, daaskvna _
adamianebis umravlesoba
ubralod sakmarisad ar
aris inteleqtualurad ga-
nviTarebuli, rom arCeviT
Tanamdebobaze Sesabamisi
kandidati airCios, ganmar-
tavs gamocemis Jurnalisti
leon uotsoni.
daningma da misma kole-ga jastin kriugerma araer-Txel daamtkices, rom xa-lxs sakuTar gonebriv Se-saZleblobebze aRmatebuliwarmodgenebi aqvs. am eqspe-rimentis monawileebi, maSi-nac ki, roca sxvebze cudad
arTmevdnen Tavs davale-bebs, TavianT SesaZleblo-bebs `saSualoze metad~afasebdnen. imavdroulad,sworad gansazRvravdnen, Tuvin Seasrula davaleba ara-damakmayofileblad, yvela-ze niWierebs ki ver avlend-nen, radgan saamiso kompe-tencia ar hyofnidaT.
axlaxan, germanel-ma sociologma matonagelma daningisa dakriugeris TeoriisSesamowmeblad Sead-gina demokratiuliarCevnebis kompiute-ruli modeli. massafuZvlad daedo uk-ve aprobirebuli Te-oria: amomrCevelTaumravlesoba saSua-lo donis liderebi
arian da arc erT maTgansar SeuZlia amoicnos li-deris Tvisebebi im kandi-datSi, romelic masze uke-Tesia. nagelis modelis Ta-naxmad, gaimarjva im kandi-datma, romelsac lideris-Tvis aucilebeli Tvisebebi`saSualoze odnav meti~hqonda.
sociologis daskvniT,demokratiis arsebobisas,saukeTeso liderebs iSvia-Tad irCeven. demokratiisupiratesoba ki mxolod isaris, rom saSualoze daba-li niWis kandidatebis gan-Tesva xdeba.
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opozicionerTa devnis gamo evrokavSiri sanqciebs uwesebs
beloruss, saqarTvelos ki, ratomRac, indobs
praRaSi gaimarTa evrokav-Sirisa da centraluri da aR-mosavleT evropis im qveynebiswarmomadgenelTa Sexvedra,romlebic `viSegradis oTxeu-lis~ da `evrokavSiris aRmo-savleTis partniorobis~ or-ganizaciebis wevrebi arian.
evrokavSiris sagareo politikis dargis umaRlesmawarmomadgenelma keTrin eStonma da evrokomisiis wevrmaStefan fiulem yofili aRmosavleTis blokis cxra qvey-nis partniorebTan erTad evrokavSirisa da ori regionu-li organizaciis ufro mWidro urTierTobis perspeqtive-bi ganixiles.
`viSegradis oTxeulis~ SemadgenlobaSi Sedian ungre-Ti, poloneTi slovakeTi da CexeTi. ramdenime wlis winSeqmnili `aRmosvleTis partniorobis~ wevrebi arianazerbaijani, belorusi, moldaveTi, saqarTvelo, somxeTi daukraina.
am SexvedraSi ar monawileobda belorusis warmomad-geneli _ evrokavSirsa da minsks Soris urTierToba da-Zaba belorusis xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg miRebulmaamaswinandelma sanqciebma, romelic opoziciuri aqtivis-tebis devnis gamo miiRes.
evrokavSiri ratomRac Tvals xuWavs sxva qveynebis xe-lisufalTa antidemokratiul moqmedebebze. magaliTadSeiZleba moviyvanoT saqarTvelos xelisuflebis moqmede-ba: SarSan 26 maiss (da es ar iyo pirveli SemTxveva) sas-tikad daarbia opoziciis mitingi, umowyalod gauswordamis TiToeul monawiles fizikurad da Semdgom periodSimaTze nadiroba daiwyo. saqarTveloSi damkvidrebul`SerCeviT samarTals~ evrostruqturebis `SerCeviTiTvaldaxuWuli partnioroba~ ubams mxars.
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demokratia aRar aris efeqtiani?
internetmimoxilva moamzada
gulbaaT WavWavaZem.
xxaaSSuurriiss rraaiioonnSSii mmccxxoovvrreebbii
ssoossoo qqiimmeerriiZZiiss ggaarrddaaccvvaalleebbaamm
ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaaSSii ssxxvvaaddaassxxvvaa kkiiTTxx-
vveebbii ddaa aaddggiilloobbrriivvii ppoolliicciiiiss
mmiimmaarrTT bbeevvrrii uurrTTiieerrTTggaammoommrrii-
ccxxaavvii vveerrssiieebbii ggaaaaCCiinnaa..
,,,,ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTss~~ TTeemmiiss ddeettaa-
lleebbzzee ,,,,yyooffiillii ppoolliittppaattiimmrreebbii
aaddaammiiaanniiss uufflleebbeebbiissTTvviiss~~ TTaavvmmjj-
ddoommaarree nana kakabaZe eessaauubbrraa..
iiggii TTaavvaadd iimmyyooffeebbooddaa ggaarrddaaccvv-
lliilliiss oojjaaxxSSii ddaa mmiiss oojjaaxxiiss
wweevvrreebbTTaann ggaassaauubbrreebbaa mmooaaxxeerrxxaa..
_ xelisuflebs mxridan xSi-
rad mogvismenia bevri saqebari
sityva policiis reformaze, de-
mokratiuli faseulobebis Camo-
yalibebaze, revoluciis dadebiT
mxareebze, Tumca sinamdvileSi
miviReT absoluturad gansxvave-
buli gacilebiT mZime realoba.
revoluciis pirvelive dReebi-
dan xelisuflebam umowyalod,
daiwyo udanaSaulo xalxis Ca-
xocva Ria cis qveS _ quCebSi.
Tamamad SeiZleba iTqvas, rom
mmarTveli gundis mier es yvela-
feri gamiznulad da axlac mi-
zanmimarTulad keTdeba, imisT-
vis, rom sazogadoebaSi daTeson
SiSi da ganukiTxaoba. yvelas
kargad gvaxsovs sandro girgv-
lianis mkvleloba, sadac pirda-
pir dadasturda vano merabiSvi-
lis meuRlis monawileoba.
strasburgis sasamarTloSic da-
dasturda qveynis maRalCinosne-
bis mier SeTanxmebuli moqmede-
bis faqti.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, ggiirrggvvlliiaa-
nniiss ssaaqqmmiiss mmssggaavvssaadd ssttrraassbbuurrggiiss
ssaassaammaarrTTllooSSii ggaannxxiilluullii bbeevvrrii
ssxxvvaa ssaaqqmmeecc ggvviinnaaxxaavvss.. iiqq mmiiRReebbuu-
llii ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbiiss mmiiuuxxeeddaavvaadd,,
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii ssaammaarrTTlleebbrriivvii
kkuuTTxxiiTT ssiittuuaacciiaa kkvvllaavv uuccvvllee-
lliiaa.. aammiittoomm ggaauuggeebbaarriiaa,,
rraa mmiizzaannss eemmssaaxxuurreebbaa eevvrroo-
ppiiss ssaassaammaarrTTllooSSii ssaaqqmmeeeebbiiss
ggaassaaCCiivvrreebbaa??
_ amiT qveynis xeli-
suflebis mimarT damoki-
debuleba mniSvnelovnad
icvlileba. magaliTad, Tu
aqamde dasavleTSi saakaS-
vilis reJims mxardaWera
imitom hqonda, rom is
iyo demokratiis Suqura,
dRes es yalbi piari gamo-
tanili ganaCenebis mixed-
viT, TandaTanobiT qreba da
sabolood nulamde da-
dis.
soso qimeriZis SemTx-
vevamac cxadyo, rom poli-
ciur saxelmwifoSi vcxovrobT,
sadac ganukiTxaoba, adamianis
uflebebis darRveva Cveuli mov-
lenaa.
qarTuli akademiis iniciati-
viT me piradad, qeTi doliZe da
buta robaqiZis deda ia metreve-
li CavediT xaSurSi da amiT
Cveni mzadyofna gamovTqviT imas-
Tan dakavSirebiT, rom bolomde
samarTlianad gamogveZiebina mom-
xdari SemTxveva. adgilze misu-
lebs micvalebulis saxlis WiS-
kari daketili dagvxvda. WiSkar-
Tan ki samoqalaqo formaSi Cac-
muli viTom soflelebi, sinamd-
vileSi ki S.s.s. TanamSromlebi
dagvxvdnen. maT saxlSi Sesasv-
lelad seriozuli winaaRmdego-
ba gagviwies.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, rraattoomm ggaa-
ggiiwwiieess wwiinnaaaaRRmmddeeggoobbaa ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo
ssaammZZiimmrriiss ggaammooxxaattvvaazzee??
_ maTi TqmiT, ojaxis wevre-
bi mZime mdgomareobaSi iyvnen da
moqalaqeebis miReba ar surdaT.
Tumca gaugebaria, ojaxs, romel-
sac micvalebuli hyavs, misma na-
Tesavma ratom unda Tqvas uari
samZimris gamosaxatavad misul
adamianze. bolos moxda ise rom
mxolod qalebi. me qeTi doli-
Ze da ia metreveli SevediT sam-
Zimris gamosaxatavad da iq ramo-
denime CemTvis ucxo adamianebTan
erTad gardacvlilis deda da-
gvxvda. man Cveni danaxvisTanave
gviTxra, naxeT ra dReSia Cemi
Svili, naxeT, ro-
goraa nawamebi, fe-
xebi rogor aqvs
dalewili.
__ TTuu uuTTxxaarriiTT
ggaarrddaaccvvlliilliiss ddee-
ddaass,, rraa wwiinnaaaaRRmmddee-
ggoobbaa SSeeggxxvvddaaTT ssaaxx-
llSSii SSeessaassvvlleellaadd??
_ gardacvli-
lis dedam CemTvis
moulodneli pasu-
xi gagvca: Cven vin
gvekiTxeba raimes, yvelafers
Cvengan damoukideblaT wyveten,
Cveni saxeliT moqmedeben. man
gvTxova rogorme mogvexerxebina
da gardacvlili xaSuris raion-
Si gadagveyvana samdicino eqsper-
tizis Casatareblad. Tumca mas
Semdeg rac gardacvlilis deda
ramdenime wuTiT gareT gasvlis
Semdeg oTaxSi absoluturad
Secvlili dabrunda. gviTxra,
mis Svils Catarebuli hqonda
eqspertiza da xelaxla misi
tanjva-wameba aRar undoda.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, SSeeiiZZlleebbaa
iiTTqqvvaass,, rroomm ssoossoo qqiimmeerriiZZiiss oojjaa-
xxiiss wweevvrreebbzzee zzeewwoollaa xxddeebbaa??
_ imedi imisa, rom es ojaxi
simarTlis dasadgenad da saku-
Tari Svilis Rirsebis dasacavad
ibrZolebs, jerjerobiT, ar
maqvs. piriqiT, gardacvlilis
ojaxi Tavisi qmedebiT im mkvle-
lebis gverdiT dgeba, vinc soso
qimeriZe awames da sikvdilamde
miiyvanes.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, rraa SSeeiiZZ-
lleebbaa ggaammxxddaarriiyyoo aamm SSeemmzzaarraavvii
ffaaqqttiiss mmiizzeezzii??
_ am adamians ar hqonda ara-
nairi statusi, arc mowmis, arc
rogorc dazaralebulis, an Tun-
dac baraldebulis, amitom, ga-
ugebaria, ratom gadaiyvanes po-
liciis sammarTveloSi. bunebaSi
ar arsebobs aseve arc dakiTx-
vis oqmi.
soso qimeriZe opoziciurad
ganwyobili adamiani iyo da sof-
lis Tavyrilobebis dros sakma-
od Tamamad lanZRavda xelisuf-
lebas. amitom is faqti, TiTqos
sofelSi aryis qvabi daikarga da
amis gamo policiam adamiani sa-
sikvdilod gaimeta, naklebad
savaraudoa.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, SSeessaaZZllooaa,,
sswwoorreedd ggaannssxxvvaavveebbuullii ppoolliittii-
kkuurrii SSeexxeedduulleebbiiss ggaammoo ddaaiissaajjaa
ssoossoo qqiimmeerriiZZee??
_ dazustebiT verafers
getyviT, ubralod, logikuria,
rom gardacvalebuls Tavi ar-
yis qvabis gulisTvis ratom un-
da gaewira? bolo-bolo cixeeb-
Si patimrebi Tavis gadasarCenad
iseTi danaSaulebebs ibraleben,
rom Znelad Tu vinmes mousme-
nia. mgonia, ufro sxva rame dgas
am faqtis miRma. Tumca rac ar
unda iyos faqti faqtad rCeba.
amitom saTanadod unda daisa-
jos xaSuris policiis ufrosi
da yvela is adamiani visac kavSi-
ri aqvs momxdarTan. amasTan, mi-
nistrma pasuxismgebloba unda
igrZnos da gadagdes dakave-
buli Tanamdebobidan.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, rroo-
ggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT rraattoomm mmaallaavvss
mmoommxxddaarrss SSiinnaaggaann ssaaqqmmeeTTaa ssaa-
mmiinniissttrroo?? vvaannoo mmeerraabbiiSSvviillss
xxoomm SSeeeeZZlloo TTaannaammddeebboobbiiddaann
ggaaeeTTaavviissuufflleebbiinnaa xxaaSSuurriiss
ppoolliicciiiiss uuffrroossii ddaa zzeeddmmee-
ttii mmiiTTqqmmaa-mmooTTqqmmaa aaeecciilleebbii-
nnaa??
_ xelisuflebas Sinagan
saqmeTa saministro wminda-
nis doneze hyavs ayvanili,
amitom am miTis dangreva ar
undaT, Sesabamisad, yvelana-
irad cdiloben momxdaris
damalvas. policias, ro-
gorc isini amtkiceben, Tu
danaSauli ar Caudenia, maSin
gvanaxon policiis video-kameris
mier gadaRebuli video-masala.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo nnaannaa,, xxeelliissuuff-
lleebbaa,, CCaannss,, rroomm mmoommxxddaarriiss mmiiCCqq-
mmaallvvaass ccddiilloobbss.. qqiimmeerriiZZiiss ffaaqq-
ttiiTT ssaaxxaallxxoo ddaammccvveelliicc ddaaiinnttee-
rreessddaa.. rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, eess ggaarree-
mmooeebbaa ggaaxxddiiss SSeessaaZZlleebbeellss ggaammoo-
ZZiieebbaa ssaammaarrTTlliiaannaadd CCaattaarrddeess??
_ saxalxo damcvelisgan ve-
li, rom parlamentSi daayenebs
ministris gadadgomis sakiTxs,
aseve xaSuris policiis ufrosi-
sa da yvela im adamianis pasuxis-
mgeblobis sakiTxs, visac uSua-
lo kavSiri aqvs momxdarTan.
miranda nabaxteveli
nana kakabaZe: nana kakabaZe: soso qimeriZis gardacvalebis
mizezi, savaraudod, misi politikuri Sexeduleba gaxda
26 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
moaxloebuli 9 marti qqarT-
veli eris erT-eerT mniSvnelovan
dRRes gvaxsenebs. mZimed damTavr-
da maSin yovelive, xalxma ver
apatia sakavSiro mTavrobas eris
Seuracxyofa, amitomac gamoxa-
tes protesti, romelic sisx-
lis fasad daujda ers.
sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT vesa-
ubrebiT maSindeli aqqciebis mo-
nawiles, profesor tarielsarTanias.
_ batono tariel, rogorc
maSindeli ambebis monawile, ras
ityviT, rogor daiwyo yovelive,
winaswar dagegmili iyo stali-
nis ZeglTan aqciebi? an ram ga-
moiwvia im ambebis gaxseneba be-
ladis gardacvalebidan 3 wlis
Semdeg anu 1956 wels? rogori
politikuri situacia iyo Cvens
qveyanaSi?
_ saqme imaSi gaxldaT, rom
1956 wlis TebervalSi Sedga
skkp meoce yriloba, sadac gamo-
vida miqoiani da aRniSna, rom
pirovnebis kulti unda davZli-
oT, aman Zalian dagvazaralao.
yvelas gaukvirda, Tu ratom am-
bobda is amas. saqme imaSi gaxl-
daT rom Turme xruSCovs gaeke-
Tebina moxseneba, stalinis pi-
rovnebis kultis Sesaxeb, rome-
lic ar gaxmianda, Semdeg ki igi-
ve aTqmevines miqoians, aintere-
sebdaT, Tu ra reaqcia mohyvebo-
da am yovelives.
reagireba iyo Zalian mwvave.
male, ukve 5 marts gavrcelda
Wori, rom sanapiroze unda
aefeTqebinaT stalinis Zegli. is
mdebareobda `dedaenis~ Zeglis
mopirdapire mxares. es iyo Ter-
Tmetmetriani monumenti. Wori
imdenad moedo qalaqs, rom wave-
di da vnaxe Zegli, Soridan Se-
vaTvaliere. iq araferi ar xde-
boda, mxolod, Soriaxlo idga
erTi milicioneri. Tumca, gar-
Semomyofni ambobdnen Zeglis mo-
salodneli afeTqebis Taobaze.
ori dRis Semdeg, 7 marts,
Tbilisis saxelmwifo universi-
tetis saerTo sacxovreblis
(mdebareobda vakeSi, WavWavaZis
prospeqtze) meSvide korpusSi,
sadac ekonomikis fakultetis
biWebi cxovrobdnen, Cemma ramo-
denime amxanagma (zaal Cikvila-
Zis TaosnobiT,) me maSin iq ar
viyavi, vswavlobdi universite-
tis garda d. arayiSvilis saxe-
lobis musikalur saswavlebel-
Si, vmRerodi saxelmwifo kape-
laSi), gaakeTes gvirgvini, Caia-
res prospeqtze, miitanes es
gvirgvini sanapiroze da dades
stalinis ZeglTan. es rom mo-
saxleobam naxa, saRamos Zeglis
mimdebare teritoria gvirgvine-
biTa da yvavilebiT daifara.
xalxs guli moecaT da ase sca-
des am Zeglis gadarCena.
im dRes iq bevri adamiani
gaxldaT dReisaTvis cnobilni,
Torem im dros yvela axalgaz-
rda iyo. STambeWdavi iyo yvavi-
lebis akvani, romelic iq maSin
Salva rCeuliSvilma moitana
(vaxtang rCeuliSvilis mama),
ase moiqca uamravi xalxi.
ukve rva marts, diliT, uni-
versitetSi mimavals vakeSi, ma-
Sindel saxanZro razmTan (puS-
kinis saxelobis institutis
win) transporti gaCerebuli da-
mixvda, quCaSi ki iyo uamravi
xalxi, romelic erT kacs gacxa-
rebiT ekamaTeboda. is xalxs
guldagul usmenda da pasuxs
scemda im motiviT, rom maT da-
exmareboda. es pirovneba gaxl-
daT maSindeli cekas pirveli
mdivani vasil mJavanaZe, romel-
sac gverdiT edga maSindeli or-
jonikiZis r-nis raikomis mdiva-
ni. isic Zalian Sewuxebuli iyo.
xalxma fexiT daiwyo svla,
vasil mJavanaZe maT gverdiT gah-
yva. rodesac universitetis
pirvel korpuss miuaxlovdnen,
mJavanaZe da raikomis mdivani
xalxs gamoeyvnen da pirveli
korpusis qveda sarTulze gan-
lagebul stambaSi Sevidnen.
gadawyvetileba miviReT da
yvelani erTad wavediT ZeglTan,
SevuerTdiT demonstrantebs. im
dRes iyo wvima, miuxedavad ami-
sa, iyo uamravi xalxi da ismo-
da lozungi _`gaumarjos sta-
lins!~ aq am dReebSi gamodiod-
nen maSindeli msaxiobebi, poete-
bi, studentebi. Zalian aqtua-
luri iyo maSin da ar SemiZlia,
ar gavixseno ioseb noneSvilis
_`mamav Zvirfaso!~, gamomsvlel-
Ta Soris iyvnen akaki vasaZe, aka-
ki xorava, sergo zaqariaZe, ni-
ko musxeliSvili _ mokled es
iyo saocari aRtkineba, aRmafre-
na romelmac yvela moicva.
swored am dRes gamoacxades,
rom saqarTveloSi Camosuli
iyo CineTis jarebis mTavarsar-
dali jude, romelic maSin
krwanisSi samTavrobo reziden-
ciaSi imyofeboda da axalgazr-
debma gadawyvites misTvis weri-
lis gadacema. es werilic iqve,
mitngze Seiqmna. marTlac wave-
diT. aivanze gamovida jude, ro-
melsac boZze acocebulma axal-
gazrdam werili gadasca. (kare-
bidan masTan ar SegviSves). amis
mere kvlav davbrundiT stali-
nis ZeglTn. maSin iq idga 100
000 kaci!
_ ra iyo am xalxis sulis-
kveTeba maSin?
_ stalinis Seuracxofa, mi-
si kultis gamocxadeba xalxma
aRiqva rogorc mTeli eris Seu-
racxyofa. es iyo mTavari. iyo
demonstrantebis mowodebac ase-
ve, rom konstituciiT gvekuTv-
nis ssrk-dan gasvla da swored
axla unda gavideTo. TandaTan
stalinis kultis dagmoba, po-
litikur mowodebebSi gadaizar-
da. saRamos saxlSi davbrundiT,
aq ukve gamaoca iman, rom radi-
oSi ismoda ara ssrk-s himni,
aramed saqarTvelos himni, esec
Zalian uCveulod meCvena, manam-
de mas radioTi ar gadascemdnen.
es faqti yvelasaTvis gasak-
viri iyo, nuTu xelisufleba
xalxis mxares dadga? _ es iyo
kiTxva, romelic yvelas akvir-
vebda. radioTi gamodioda vano
javaxiSvili, msaxiobi, romelic
gasaocrad mReroda _ `vefxisa
da moymis baladas~ _ da amiT
sul sxva SemarTeba da Zala ema-
teboda xalxs. praqtikulad
leqsebis umetesoba iqve, Zegl-
Tan iqmneboda.
ukve 9 marts mTeli studen-
toba droSebiT SeiaraRebulni
wavediT gorSi sabargo manqane-
biT. iqac mis ZeglTan didi mi-
tingi gaimarTa, ismoda mowode-
bebi, rom xruSCovi da miqoiani
gamoyvanil yofiliyvnen mTavro-
bis Semadgenlobidan, stalinis
augad xsenebis gamo saRamos
TbilisSi davbrundiT. noneSvi-
li da sxva poetebi TiTqmis yo-
veldRe mitingze iyvnen.
bolos viRacam Tqva, rodem-
de unda vidgeT aq? rogor mo-
viqceT Semdgom? maSin gadawyda
da moifiqres, rom vinaidan 9
marti molotovis dabadebis
dRen iyo, depeSiT mielocaT mo-
mitingeebs es dRe da emcnoT sa-
qarTveloSi momxdari ambebi. Tan
iyo xalxis Txovna aseTi, rom
is Casdgomoda ssrk-s xelisuf-
lebas saTaveSi.
_ ra Tanamdeboba ekava mas?
_ maSin is iyo sakavSiro
sagareo saqmeTa ministri. wavi-
da ramodenime biWi da waiRes
es depeSa gasagzavnad. es iyo
dRis 12 saaTi. mere Cven wave-
diT gorSi, xolo iqidan dab-
runebulebs ukve sxva situacia
dagvxvda. ZeglTan gamomsvle-
lebs ukve nebas aRar aZlevdnen
rom gamosuliyvnen, xolo is
biWebi, romelnic kavSirgabmu-
lobis saxlSi mividnen depeSis
gasagzavnad _ daakaves! rodesac
xalxSi es ambavi gavrcelda,
yvelam moiTxova, rom wavsuli-
yaviT da isini gagvenTavisuf-
lebina _ es xdeba ukve 9 marts
Rame _ TerTmetis naxevarze!
wavida jgufi _ romelTac
surdaT erTi ram _ gaegoT ra-
tom daakaves axalgazrdebi, ra
moxda. zogjer amboben, rom iq
mTavrobas vinme ebrZoda. ase ar
iyo, carieli xeliT vinme jars
an miliciels SeebrZoleboda?
cota xnis mere, Rame, ukve ga-
isma iaraRis xma, avtomatebis
kakani, tyviebis srola kavSir-
gabmulobis saxlidan. am dros
xalxis umetesoba ZeglTan rCe-
boda, maT Soris mec. zemodan
gamoCnda xalxi, romelTac
Tqves, rom gvesvrian, gvxocaven
da vnaxeT daWrilebi. gasaocari
iyo xalxis SemarTeba. aravin
daSlila an gaqceula. piriqiT
Tqves (gaixseneT, iq iyo asi
aTasi moqalaqe) wavideT, Cvenc
iq mivideT sadac xocaven xal-
xso. marTlac wavediT kavSir-
gabmulobis saxlTan, sadac Sem-
zaravi suraTi dagvixvda. iyo
tyviamfrqvevebi, (pirvelad vna-
xe) da merve legionis garda
sxva jaric, kbilebamde Seiara-
Rebuli. ukve yvela fiqrobda
Tavis gadarCenaze. vakis mimar-
TulebiT veRar wamovediT, iqi-
dan jaris kolonebi moedinebo-
da, amitom davbrundiT sanapi-
roze. aq sxva ambavic SevityveT.
Turme gaugiaT am ambebis Sesa-
xeb qarTul sajariso formebs
baTumSi da quTaisSi da gada-
ewyvitaT TbilisSi xalxis da-
xmareba. isini ganaiaraRes, To-
rem marTla samkvdro-sasicocx-
lo Setakeba moxdeboda. iseTi,
rom Tbilisisgan araferi aRar
darCeboda. SemdgomSi es qarTu-
li nawilebi gaauqmes!
_ sanapiroze 9 marts xalxs
merve legionis jariskacebma es-
roles da daxoces, ramdeni ka-
ci mokvda savaraudod?
_ diax, ZiriTadad maT daxo-
ces xalxi, momswreni ambobdnen
rom erTi axalgazrda qali, sva-
niZe quTaisidan, Suaze gafatres
xiStiT da mtkvarSi gadaagdes.
mtkvarSi bevri daiRupa. amboben
150 kaci zogi met cifrsac asa-
xelebs. es dRemde gaurkvevelia.
micvalebulebs ki panaSvids ar
uxdidnen ise marxavdnen, Zalian
mZime dro iyo.
eTer kasreliSvili
vasil mJavanaZe mivida stalinis ZeglTan da daamtkica,rom is eris gverdiT iyo
`ganaxlebuli ssaqarTvelosTvis~ _
rusebs rrac ddidebulad aqvT ggamomuSavebuli,
es aaris aaneqsiis xxelovnebapartia ,,ganaxlebuli saqarTvelosTvis“ ru-
seTis mier afxazeTisa da `samxreT
oseTis~ okupacias aRiarebs da
acxadebs, rom amis uaryofa ar Se-
iZleba.
rogorc dRes gamarTul pres-
konferenciaze partiis regionulma
mdivanma laSa gvasaliam ganacxada,
saerTaSoriso samarTalSi da po-
litikaSi arsebobs iseTi terminebi,
rasac gverds ver auvli.
,,rusebs rac didebulad aqvT
gamomuSavebuli, es aris aneqsiis
xelovneba, amis uaryofa ar SeiZle-
ba. mTavaria, rogor miudgebi am sakiTxs, rom
aRmofxvra es problema da moxdes deokupacia.
Cven varT marTlac dazaralebuli qveyana. Cven
davkargeT biWebi“, – ganacxada gvasaliam da
dasZina, rom partiis saerTaSoriso mdivans min-
dia guluas, romelic amJamad ruseTSi moRvawe-
obs, vladimer putinisaTvis arCevnebSi gamarjve-
ba ar miulocavs.
gvasalias TqmiT, mindia gulia
amas ver gaakeTebda, radgan arCev-
nebis damTavrebamde putins uTq-
vams, rom afxazeTis da samaCablos
sakiTxis ar gadaxedavda.
,,batonma mindiam ganacxada,
rom es iyo misTvis absoluturad
miuRebeli. man Tqva, rom me ver
mivulocav mas gamarjvebas, sanam
ar gavarkvev masTan am sakiTxs da
vitoveb imeds, rom es aris Jur-
nalistebis Secdoma“, _ ganacxada
gvasaliam.
laSa gvasalias informaciiT, mindia gulua
vladimir putins uaxloes dReebSi Seexvdeba.
`medianiusi~
27saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
Tomas de vaali
20 wlis win sabWoTa kavSi-
ris nangrevebidan 15 axali qve-
yana gaCnda _ dangreuli mono-
liTis araTanabari namsxvreve-
bi. erTi istoria Txutmetad iq-
ca. sabWoTa kavSiris eqspertTa
umravlesoba mas Semdeg cdi-
lobs movlenebs ar CamorCes,
magram rogor unda aRwero es
gamravlebuli istoriebi?
retrospeqtulad cxadi xde-
ba, rom dasavlelma komentato-
rebma verc iwinaswarmetyveles
da verc axsnes is, rac am qvey-
nebSi moxda: maTi midrekileba
gauTavebeli krizisebisken, maTi
ucnauri da hibriduli politi-
kuri sistemebi, maTi arastabi-
luri stabiluroba.
interpretatorebi didxans
cdilobdnen am qveynebisTvis,
romelTac dasavleTisgan da
xSirad erTmaneTisganac, sruli-
ad gansxvavebuli istoria da
kulturuli winapirobebi aqvT,
danarCen msoflioSi miRebuli
modelebi moergoT („gadasvla
sabazro ekonomikaze“, „partiu-
li sistemis evolucia“). me wa-
kiTxuli maqvs ruseTis premier-
ministris „eTnocentrul pat-
riotizmze“, misi „warmomadgen-
lobiTi demokratiis xafangze“
da imaze, rom is „neopatrimoni-
alur saxelmwifos aSenebs“,
mokled, Zalian Wkvianuri raRa-
cebi wamikiTxavs. mTeli am sity-
vieri konstruqciebidan me mSve-
nivrad agebuli erTi-ori mode-
lis Sesaxeb gavige, (rogorc
putinisTvis, aseve politolo-
gebisTvis), magram ara is, rasac
daveZeb – sazogadoebis cxovre-
bis xedvas Signidan.
hoda, ai aseTi, arc Tu ise
zerele mosazreba gamiCnda: iqneb
yofili sabWoTa kavSiris gage-
bisaTvis is ajobebs, Tu poli-
tologiur saxelmZRvaneloebs
gverdze gadavdebT da amis nacv-
lad nikoloz gogolis, anton
Cexovisa da Teodore dostoevs-
kis wignebs gadavSliT?
es martooden gonebaWvreti-
Ti eqsperimenti rodia; aRmoCn-
da, rom am avtorebis nawarmoe-
bebi, romlebic mecxramete sau-
kuneSi da meoce saukunis da-
sawyisSi daiwera, gasaocrad er-
geba yofili sabWoTa sivrcis
didi nawilis politikur rea-
lobas, iqneba es putinis avto-
ritaruli mmarTvelobis mou-
lodneli simyife ruseTSi, Tu
mezobeli ukrainis modernizebis
mcdelobis mudmivi marcxi. saq-
me isaa, rom yofili sabWoTa
qveynebis umetesoba ruseTis
orsaukunovani avtokratiis
produqtia, avtokratiisa, ro-
melmac dabada msoflio
mniSvnelobis udidesi mwer-
lebi. imasac amboben, rom
pirvelis arsebobam ganapi-
roba meore, rom mkacrma ca-
ristulma cenzuram, gaxeve-
bulma sajaro samsaxurebma,
ganaTlebuli klasis inte-
leqtualurma SimSilma xe-
li Seuwyo didi nawarmoebe-
bis dabadebas. puSkini da
tolstoi, gogoli, Cexovi
da dostoevski, mxolod
kulturis interpretato-
rebi rodi iyvnen – isini
popularuli adamianebi, Ta-
visi epoqis sakvanZo mora-
luri da inteleqtualuri
faseulobebis gamxmovaneb-
lebic gaxldnen. maT aRmer-
Tebdnen imisTvis, rom aR-
werdnen rTul garemoebebs,
romlebSic mkiTxveli sakuTar
Tavs scnobda da axla cnobs.
Tavis gasaocar wignSi, 2010
wlis bestselerSi „Sepyrobi-
lebi“ (The Possessed) elif ba-
tumani imaze wers, Tu ratom
SeiZleba iqces rusuli lite-
ratura gzamkvlevad umetes
cxovrebiseul, didsa da patara
kiTxvebze pasuxis Ziebisas. „ta-
tiana da onegini, ana da vrons-
ki“, _ wers batumani, ixsenebs
ra rusuli literaturis yve-
laze cnobil personaJebs, „yo-
vel nabijze, adamianis qcevis
saidumlo da siyvarulis buneba,
rogorc Cans, ganuyrelad ukav-
Sirdeba yvelafers rusuls“.
Cemi idea cota ufro mokr-
Zalebulia, me gTavazobT mokle
eskizebs imisa, Tu rogor SeiZ-
leba movargoT rusuli lite-
raturis didi nawarmoebebi sam
post-sabWoTa qveyanas, im sam
qveyanas, romelic dasavlel ko-
mentatorebSi yvelaze cxovel
interess iwvevs, esenia: ruseTi,
ukraina da saqarTvelo. es kla-
sikosebi, romelTagan TiToeuli
saukuneze did xnis win cxov-
robda, iseTi specifikuri de-
talebiTa da grandiozuli pano-
ramiT mogvamarageben, romelic
ase aklia modelebiT gadatvir-
Tul politikur teqstebs.
ruseTi, rogorc
gogolis `revizori~
ruseTis umZimesi tvirTi
imaSia, rom mas arasodes mouci-
lebia feodaluri tradicia,
personoficirebuli Zalaufle-
bis Cveva. mecxramete saukunis
dasasrulamde ruseTis mosaxle-
obis umetesobas yma-glexoba Se-
adgenda. amave dros feodalebi
damoukideblad rodi marTavdnen
ymebs - yvela maTgani emsaxure-
boda saxelmwifos da sakuTre-
bas mefis wyalobiT flobda.
sabWoTa sistemam, amjerad ukve
centralizebuli sakuTrebisa
da komunisturi partiis mono-
poliis meSveobiT es ierarqia
aRadgina. bolo wlebSi, axla
ukve post-sabWoTa epoqisaTvis,
es sistema kidev erTxel gamoi-
yena putinma da e.w. „Zalaufle-
bis vertikali“ SemoiRo, Tumca
Tavis moqalaqeebs bevrad ufro
meti privatuli sivrce dauto-
va. magram, rogorc putinma es
amas winaT aRmoaCina, sistema ga-
saocrad myife gamodga. mas mud-
mivi meTvalyureoba sWirdeba,
radgan is damokidebulebaTa
jaWvzea Camokidebuli, suldg-
mulobs favoritizmiT, meqrTa-
meobiT, sicruiTa da orpirobi-
Taa damZimebuli.
es sistema SeiZleba uecrad
CamoiSalos. mefe SeiZleba Za-
lian Tavneba aRmoCndes, an avad
gaxdes, an Semoelios fuli da
veRar gadaixados valebi. da ai,
am dros, ruseTis moqalaqeebs,
Tu isini CaTvlian, rom yvela-
feri es Zalisxmevad Rirs, sav-
sebiT SeswevT Zala Tavis mmar-
Tvelebs problemebi Seuqmnan.
rogorc ruseTis specialistma
sem grinma Tqva, „arsebobs miTi
rusebis pasiurobis Sesaxeb. es
ar aris swori: rusebi agresiu-
lad umoqmedoni rian.“ amiT mas
imis Tqma surda, rom rusebi bu-
nebrivad konservatiulni arian,
urCevniaT gadarCenis strategi-
aze koncentrirdnen, vidre iseT
riskze wavidnen, romelic maTi
mdgomareobis gauaresebis safr-
Txes Seicavs. Tu darwmundebian,
rom mefe SiSvelia, isini pro-
tests gamoTqvamen. ase moxda
1989-1991 w.w., rodesac sabWoe-
Tis sistema CamoiSala da, uf-
ro mokrZalebuli masStabiT, am
bolo TveebSi, dekembris sapar-
lamento arCevnebis gayalbebis
Semdeg.
swored aman mimiyvana gogo-
lis „revizoramde“. gogoli ru-
suli cxovrebis daxelovnebuli
karikaturistia. imis Tqmac Se-
iZleba, rom mas veluri siyva-
ruliT uyvars ruseTi. misi pi-
esa „revizori“ rusuli Teatra-
luri scenis udidesi komediaa
da amave dros yvelaze gamanad-
gurebeli satira, sarke im ru-
suli tradiciisa, romelic
wvrilman despotizms mefidan
ymamde avrcelebs. cnobilia, rom
rodesac 1836 wels nikoloz
pirvelma am piesis mixedviT
dadgmuli speqtakli naxa, aseTi
ram wamoiZaxa: „yvelas mogvxvda,
magram me yvelaze metad“.
piesis fabula martivia: pa-
tara qalaqis korumpirebuli
Tavi igebs, rom peterburgidan
imis gamosaZieblad, Tu rogor
midis saqmeebi adgilze, revizo-
ri Camodis. qalaqSi panika iwye-
ba, yvela meqrTamea, axali saa-
vadmyofosTvis gamoyofili Tan-
xa gaflangulia, magram aSenebiT
araferi aSenebula, xolo gamo-
uyenebeli saxelmwifo dawesebu-
lebis vestibiulSi ixvebi bu-
doben.
Semdeg ki qalaqis Tavi da
misi xelqviTi wvrilfexoba sa-
bediswero Secdomas uSveben da
axalgazrda qalaqel kacs, rome-
lic sastumroSi cxovrobs, re-
vizorad CaTvlian. xlestakovi,
ase hqvia Camosuls, realurad
uyairaTo da usircxvilo
mflangvelia da mTeli fuli
banqos TamaSSi waago. is myisie-
rad sargeblobs qalaqis Cinov-
nikebis mliqvneluri yuradRe-
biT, adgilobriv biurokratebs
fuls arTmevs, xolo qalaqis
Tavis colsa da qaliSvils pe-
terburgSi Tavisi cxovrebis
Sesaxeb arnaxulad Selamazebu-
li da gamogonili istoriebiT
acdunebs.
iseve, rogorc gasuli sau-
kunis ruseTis istoriaSi, pie-
sis finalSic TamaSdeba ambo-
xis, absolutizmisa da kraxis
epizodebi. amboxebuli vaWrebi
stumars qalaqis Tavis ukanono-
baze SesCivleben. qalaqis Tavi
maT imiT ugebs, rom xlestako-
visa da Tavisi qaliSvilis da-
niSvnis ambavs acnobebs, acno-
bebs imas, rom ojaxi peterbur-
gSi gadadis sacxovreblad. is
dascinis vaWars da eubneba, „ax-
la Cems fexrTiTa xar, ratom?
imitom, rom gajobeT, magram,
aba, odnav mainc gagetana Seni?
lafSi amomsvridi da TavSic
Camcxebdi.“
mere ki situacia icvleba,
xlestakovi qalaqidan ipareba,
fostalioni Cumad gaxsnis we-
rils, romelSic gaiZvera Cade-
nil TaRliTobas ikvexnis. tyu-
ili aSkaravdeba da qalaqi gaog-
nebulia im cnobiT, rom namdvi-
li revizori marTlac ukve Ca-
mosulia. bolo epizodSi sru-
liad gadareuli qalaqis Tavi
mimarTavs yvelas, Tavis xelqve-
iTebsac da mayureblebsac, „vis
dasciniT? sakuTar Tavs?“
putinis ruseTSi iseve, ro-
gorc nikoloz pirvelis epoqa-
Si yvelam icis Tavisi adgili
da yvela monawileobs korufci-
ul praqtikaSi, an angarebiT, an
inerciiT, an orive am mizezis
gamo. magram yvelaferi saTaveSi
myof kaczea damokidebuli – me-
feze, qalaqis Tavze, prezident-
ze. rodesac Zalauflebis ilu-
zia orTqldeba – revizori
TaRliTia, xolo prezidenti
motyuebuli, yvelaferi myisie-
rad SeiZleba CamoiSalos. piesa-
Si wesrigi aseve myisierad aRd-
geba: axali revzori Tavis nebas
axorcielebs, speqtaklis bolo
„munj scenaSi“, miuxedavad imi-
sa, rom gaognebuli personaJebi
sityvasac ki ar warmoTqvamen,
Cven egzistenciuri Tavzardace-
mis mowmeni vxdebiT.
ruseTis mudmivi gasaWiri
amaSia, – is trialebs avtokra-
tul wesrigsa da socialur ka-
tastrofebs Soris, ai, ase ga-
nicdeba rusebis umetesobisTvis
post-sabWoTa periodi 1990-
iani wlebis Semdeg. „revizor-
Si“ igive dilemaa aRwerili. Tu
gogolis am piesidan dRes sap-
rotestod gamosulma demonst-
rantebma raime daskvna unda ga-
moitanon, es daskvna SemdegSi
mdgomareobs – maT sistemis
Sesacvlelad unda ibrZolon
da ara mxolod im kacisa, ro-
melic sistemis saTaveSia moq-
ceuli.
rogor gvixsnis gogoli post-sabWoTa qveynebis arss
28 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
gza atenis xeobaSi mtkvris
marjvena sanapiroze, goridan xi-
dis-Tavis gavliT miemarTeba, mag-
ram Tu manamde gorijvarze mogix-
daT asvla, mZlavri manqanis Sem-
TxvevaSi, sofel wedisze Camavali
mokle gziTac SegeZlebaT sargeb-
loba.
Cveni jgufi gorijvarze 3 iv-
niss _ giorgobis sworze moxvda.
aba, ras vifiqrebdiT, rom aq 26
maisidan yovel Svideulze sagan-
gebo wirva-locva ewyoboda da
araerTi mlocvel-mavedrebeli
adioda. sataZro kompleqss kibe
CrdiloeTidan auyveba. viRas ar
vxedavT am grZel kibeze: axalgaz-
rdas Tu moxucs, col-qmars Tu
mama-Svils; vis mamali mihyavs Se-
sawirad, vis _ cxvari, vis sanTe-
li. gorijvars avadmyofTa gankur-
nebis saswaulmoqmed Zalas miawe-
ren.
gorijvari goridan samxreT-
dasavleTiT azidul kldezea aR-
marTuli da Zalian Soridanac ki
TvalSisacemia. XVIII saukuneSi
galavniT SemozRuduli `wm.gior-
gi~ 1920 wlis miwisZvram mTlia-
nad daangria da axali taZari ar-
cTu Soreul warsulSi Zvel sa-
Zirkvelze aigo. igi fleTili qvi-
Ta da aguriT aSenebuli Cveuleb-
rivi darbazuli saydaria. sakur-
Txevlis win aRmarTulia xis di-
di, moWedili jvari, romlis qveS,
miwis siRrmeSi, legendis Tanax-
mad, mTavarmowamis Tavi da sxva
wminda nawilebia davanebuli.
wedisSi veSvebiT, mze Subis-
tarzea. sofelSi kacis WaWaneba
araa, yvela baRebSi gakrefila. we-
disis istoriis mcodne kacs dave-
ZebT. gagvimarTla _ literatori
doger SatikiSvili gavicaniT, ro-
melsac soflis Tavze SemorCenil
taZris nangrevebTan avyavarT. aqe-
dan aramarto wedisi iSleba xe-
lisguliviT, aramed mTeli aTre-
visxevis (tanas marcxena Senakadi)
sanaxebi. taZari galavanSi mjdara
da misi msgavsi didi, uxeSad gaT-
lili movardisfro lodebiT
augia ostats. taZari mogvianebi-
Taa aSenebuli, mcire cixe ki X
saukunisaa da, rogorc varaudo-
ben, `tanas xevis~ cixesimagreTa
sistemis nawili iyo. saydari wm.
giorgis saxelobisaa da bastionis
aRmosavleT kuTxeSi CaudgamT. mi-
si erTaderTi, samxreTis kari ad-
re garSemosavlelis karibWeSi ga-
modioda, romlisgan axla mcireo-
deni nawilia Semonaxuli. saydris
interierSi aqa-iq bJutavs daSre-
tili mxatvrobis abrisebi.
Cveni megzuri d.SatikiSvili
gamoTqvams varauds, rom swored
atenis xeobidan wasulma vereleb-
ma da wediselebma daaarses sofe-
li vere skvireTis xeobaSi, anu
dRevandel TbilisSi da wedisi _
raWaSi, jejoris xeobaSi, sadac
XVIII saukuneSi cixec augiaT. Tu
es versia misaRebia, maSin atenis
xeobidan mosaxleobis erTi nawi-
lis gadasaxleba XVIII saukunemde
unda momxdariyo, radgan vaxuSti
batoniSvili kargad icnobs ro-
gorc jejoris sofel wediss, ise
veres _ TbilisSi Camomavali mdi-
nare skvireTis meore saxels.
sainteresoa orive toponimi:
`vere~ da `wedisi~. ivane javaxiS-
vilis mosazrebiT `vere~ foneti-
kurad Secvlili `beri~ aris. gar-
da imisa, rom beri xandazmuls
niSnavs, igi mkvrivsa da mTavarsac
gulisxmobda adre. xalxuri gad-
mocemiT, rogorc g.SatikiSvili
gveubneba, vere imitom darqmevia
gardatenSi mdgar cixesimagres,
rom mters ver auRia. (es simarT-
le ar aris _ veris cixe ramden-
jermea dapyrobili).
wedisis warmomavloba, albaT,
eWvs ar unda iwvevdes: `weda-eese
ars yovelive Rvinis Sesasmeli
WurWeli ( 3. mef. 7,26). naxe saw-
de, WurWeli, Seadare: `wdeva~
gveubneba sulxan-saba. rogorc
Cans, sofeli wedisi an wdeebis
ostatebiT iyo ganTqmuli, an ara-
da odesRac mwdis mamuli iyo.
wedisis gaRma, tanas meore na-
pirze, cnobili xidisTavis samx-
reTiT, patara sofeli jebiri
mdebareobs. xidisTavis gverdiT
jebiris arseboba, albaT, imas gva-
fiqrebinebs, rom aq raRac isto-
riuli jebiric iyo aRmarTuli,
magram axla aRar arsebobs da mi-
si xsovna soflis saxelma Seina-
xa. magram, nuras ukacravad _ aqa-
urebs da mTel atenis xeobas am
TemasTan dakavSirebiT sul sxva
mosazreba aqvT: arsebobs legenda,
romelsac aramarto es sofeli,
aramed xeobis saTaveebSi mdebare
ori sxva adgilic ukavSirdeba.
amitom mkiTxvels bodiSs movuxdi:
es legenda Cveni momavali mogza-
urobisTvis unda Semovinaxo.
sofel jebiris Semdeg, iq sa-
dac tanas misi marjvena Senakadi
vere uerTdeba, mdebareobs kidev
erTi mcire sofeli gardateni
(albaT, gareTa ateni), romelic
gaRma mdebare patara atens gasc-
qeris. gardatenidan 3-4 kilomet-
rSi, tanasa da veres wyalgamyof
serze warmarTulia is cixe, rom-
lis Taobaze ukve amdeni visaub-
reT zeviT.
veris cixe didi ar aris
(44,6X14X8m), magram iseT adgil-
zea aRmarTuli, rom atenisa da
veris xeobebis garda, goris mida-
moebsac uTvalTvalebs. es da ate-
nis cixe erT periodSi unda iyos
agebuli. maTi cal-calke arseboba
warmoudgenelic kia. is, vinc Si-
da qarTlis xelSi Cagdebas moiwa-
dinebda, jer ufliscixes unda da-
patroneboda, Semdeg ki atenis, ve-
res da mdinare TeZmis xeobaSi ar-
sebul rkonis (igive degcixe) bas-
tionebs, maT gareSe qvemo qarTl-
Si gadamaval gzebs ver gaakont-
rolebda. adre es cixeebi, iseve
rogorc mTeli Sida qarTli, spas-
petis sagamgeos warmoadgenda da
calkeul xeobebs misdami morCi-
lebaSi myofi mcire erisTavebi
anu aznaurebi patronobdnen. arab-
Ta Semosvlis droidan, TviT maSi-
nac ki roca sarkinozTa batonoba
Sesustda, tanas xevi Tbilisis sa-
amiroSi moiazreboda. IX saukunis
meore naxevridan mdgomareoba icv-
leba da xalifatisagan sanaxevrod
damoukidebeli Tbilisis amira
kontrols kargavs am tertorieb-
ze. verisa da atenis cixesimagree-
bi swored amis mere unda iyos
agebuli an safuZvlianad gazr-
dil-gadakeTebuli. IX saukunis
bolos mas jer afxazeTis (das.sa-
qarTvelos) mefe konstantine III
ikavebs, Semdeg _ misi Ze giorgi II
da SviliSvili leon III. erTxans
es cixesimagreebi, mTel Sida qar-
TlTan erTad, leonis Zmam, demet-
re III-c SeinarCuna, X saukunis
bolodan ki tanas xevs, kldekar-
Tan erTad, baRvaSebi daeuflnen.
XI saukunidan XVI saukunis Sua-
xanamde atenisa da veris cixeebi
samefo saxlis xelSia. 1554 wlis
zafxulze vere Sah-Tamazma aiRo
da atenis cixeSi gamagrebuli lu-
arsab I-is dedis winaaRmdeg daiZ-
ra. tyveobaSi Cavardnilma qalma
Seuracxyofa ver aitana da erevan-
Si Tavi moikla.
vfiqrob, arc moulodneli da
arc saZraxisi unda iyos, rom ci-
xesimagreTa aRwerisas sityvas is-
toriis qartexilebi wamarTmevs
xolme da xSirad adgilsa da sa-
gans scildeba. Tanac, aba, bevri ra
iseTi unda Tqva nagebobaze, rom-
lis kedlebis maqsimaluri simaR-
le aqa-iq 4-5 metrs Tu aRwevs da
yvela koSki dalewili aqvs...
gardatenis siaxloves 4 ekle-
siaa: X-XI saukuneebis `feriscva-
leba~ (igive `mwvane saydari~),
gardatenis `RvTismSobeli~, aseve
gviani Suasaukuneebis `orsaydre-
bi~ da adreuli Suasaukuneebis
`yvelawminda~. gansakuTrebiT mniS-
vnelovani Zegli es ukanasknelia.
vaxuSti batoniSvili mis Taobaze
ase ambobs: `veris dabis dasavliT
ars, danaxvisis mTis Zirs, monas-
teri keTilSuenieri yovladwmidi-
sa~. vaxuStis sityvidan gamomdina-
re XVIII saukunis dasawyisSi ek-
lesia daungreveli yofila.
veres taZari cixis Ziridan
samxreT-dasavleTiT, daaxloebiT
1-1,5 kilometrSi, xevidan da gzi-
dan marjvena mxaresaa.
Cvens winaSea aramarto am xe-
obis, aramed mTeli Sida qarTlis
erT-erTi yvelaze uZvelesi da um-
Svenieresi taZari _ VI saukunis
samnaviani bazilika (10,7X7,5 m)
samxreTis ekvderiTa da mongreu-
li karibWiT. taZari sxva mxriva-
caa dazianebuli: dabzarulia ked-
lebi, aRar arsebobs kamara da
kedlebis zeda wyobis erTi nawi-
li. taZars 3 Sesasvleli hqonia...
Cven CrdiloeTis kariT SevdivarT.
atenis maSindeli gamgebeli daviT
vaniSvili da gardateneli axal-
gazrdebi gviamboben Tu rogor ga-
anTavisufles taZari moSvavebuli
miwisgan:
_ daaxloebiT ornaxevari met-
ris simaRleze hqonda miwas dafa-
ruli saydari, _ gveubneba erTi
gardateneli kaci. _ karis nacv-
lad viwro xvreli Canda da Zlivs
SevZveriT. mTeli sofeli modioda
samuSaod, atenidanac ki amodiod-
nen axalgazrdebi, rom saqmes dro-
ulad movrCeniliyaviT.
igi, vinc taZrebTan saubari
icis, veres `RvTismSobelSi~ mox-
vedrisas umal SegirZnobs da Sei-
sunTqavs adre Suasaukuneebis epo-
qas: sakurTxevlis Rrma afsidi
(Tumca ara mTlad nalisebri),
sarkmlis farTo ambrazurebi, qva-
Ta wyoba da Tlis manera. aRmosav-
leT fasadze ori Rrma da maRali
niSi... taZari XI saukuneSi aRud-
geniaT da odnav gadaukeTebiaT.
swored am droindelia grexil-
lilvebiani qvebi _ zogi kankelis
kedelSi Cadgmuli da zogic ga-
reT, ezoSi dawyobili. Zalian la-
mazia taZris perangi, romelic
ruxi da Rvinisferi qvebiTaa `Se-
kerili~. Rvinisferi qva umetesad
samkaulebisTvis da horizontalu-
ri StrixebisTvisaa gamoyenebuli,
interierSi ki misi saSualebiT
TaRebia gamoyvanili. qviSaqvasTan
erTad, samSeneblo masalad Siri-
micaa gamoyenebuli, romelic taZ-
rebs yovelTvis met simSvidesa da
simtkices aniWebs.
bevrjer miTqvams da axlac ga-
vimeoreb: zogierTi taZari iseTia,
rom sityviT veranairad aRwer,
TiToeuli qva rom calke daaxasi-
aTo, saboloo suraTs mainc ver
Seqmni. mxolod masTan uSualo
kontaqtiT, miaxloebiT da gasaub-
rebiT gauxsni guls, mxolod ase
daakavSireb warsulsa da myofads
erTmaneTTan adamianebs ar SeuZli-
aT ase laparaki, mxolod taZrebi
saubroben ase.
gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi
uZvelesivere
atenis xeoba
mogzauroba samSobloSiSeiZleboda, narkvevis qqvesaTaurad `̀tanas xevic~ gamometana,
radgan mdinares, romelic xeobaSi Camoedineba, swored tana hqqvia,
magram es mTlad gamarTlebuli ar iqqneboda. saqqme isaa, rom isto-
riulad `̀tanas xevi~ da Zvel droSi mezobeli TeZmis xeobis zeda
monakveTsac moicavda, administraciul erTeuls ufro warmoadgen-
da.
wedisis `wminda giorgi~
gardateni. veris `yvelawminda~
gorijvari. `wminda giorgi~ gardateni. veris cixe
29saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
mecnierebi sakmaod didxans
Tvlidnen,rom gadmocema babi-
lonis godolis Sesaxeb mxo-
lod simboluri legenda iyo,
magram me-19 saukunis bolos,
evropelma arqeologebma aRmo-
aCines godolis nangrevebi.
baRdadidan daaxloebiT as ki-
lometrze, mravali saukunis
ganmavlobaSi aRmarTuliyo
borcvebi brtyeli TavebiT da
daqanebuli ferdobebiT. adgi-
lobrivi mcxovrebni maT buneb-
rivi reliefis nawilad
Tvlidnen. borcvebis brtyeli
mwvervalebi mosaxerxebeli
iyo beduinTa karvebis gasaS-
lelad,iq salocavad adiodnen
keTilmorwmune arabebi. verc
erT maTgans ver warmoedgi-
na,rom mis fexqveS legendaru-
li, didebuli qalaqis nangre-
vebi iyo Camarxuli. 1899
wels es adgili moinaxula
germanelma arqeologma ro-
bert koldeveim, romlis saxe-
lic arqeologiis istoriaSi
babilonis aRmomCenelis saxe-
lad Sevida. man wamoiwyo
gaTxrebi „saxnis velze“
(„saxn“ arabulad tafas niS-
navs) da pirveli dRidanve ga-
uRima bedma. TxuTmeti weli
mounda igi gaTxrebidan uZve-
lesi civilizaciis naSTebis
amoRebas. arqeologi sawarmoe-
beli samuSaos masStabebs misi
dawyebisTanave mixvda da es
masStabebi gaTxrebis ramdenime
Tvis periodmac daudastura.
gaTxrebi yoveldRe axal-
axal aRmoCenas sTavazobda
mecniers. es iyo moWiquli
agurisgan gakeTebuli bareli-
efebis namsxvrevebi, spilenZiT
moWedili qalaqis didi WiSka-
ri, didebuli frTiani lome-
bis qandakebebi da sxva arte-
faqtebi, romlebmac daCrdi-
les egvipturi Sedevrebis
brwyinvaleba da daafiqres
mTeli msoflios mecnierebi
imaze, Tu rogor warmoiSva me-
sopotamiaSi aseTi maRalganvi-
Tarebuli civilizacia. dRes
arqeologebi fiqroben, rom
Zveli babiloni Sumerebis ci-
vilizaciis ukanaskneli gamob-
rwyinebaa. Sumerebi aTasobiT
wlis win cxovrobdnen mdina-
reebis tigrossa da evfrats
Soris mdebare teritoriaze.
Sumeruli saiuveliro nakeTo-
bebi dRemde misabaZ magaliTad
rCeba parizeli iuvelirebi-
saTvis, xolo akldamebma, sa-
dac msxverplad Sewiruli
adamianebis aseulobiT ConCxs
waawydnen, arqeologebi lamis
daamunja. Sumerebis Sesaxeb
cota ram aris cnobili, mag-
ram varaudoben, rom warRvnam
swored es xalxi gaanadgura.
yovel SemTxvevSi, Sumeruli
civilizaciis fenis Semdeg ar-
qeologebma naxes Tixis or-
metriani fena, romelic aq
momxdar katastrofaze, sava-
raudod, warRvnaze miuTiTeb-
da. unda vifiqroT, rom saSi-
nel wyaldidobas bibliuri
noes garda, kidev gadaurCebo-
da vinme. Sumerebis gadarCe-
nilma naSTebma daaarses qala-
qi babiloni, romelSic kidec
erTxel aRorZinda da ayvavda
maTi kultura, romelic
ufalma Tu stiqiam gaanadgura.
koldovei waawyda miwisqveSa
nagebobebs. maT SigniT aRmoCn-
da Wa, romelic sami Saxtisgan
Sedgeboda. teqnikur specia-
listebTan konsultaciis Sem-
deg arqeologisTvis cnobili
gaxda, rom samSaxtiani Wa
wylis amosaqaCad gamoiyenebo-
da, mas hqonda lentiani amwe-
vi, romelic wyals ganuwyvet-
liv awodebda. aqedan gamodi-
oda daskvna, rom aRmoCenili
sardafebi warmoadgenda semi-
ramidas maradmwvane baRebis
TaRebs. aq muSobda im drois-
Tvis unikaluri wylis mimwo-
debeli sistema, romelic
Zvirfasi sarwyavi wyliT uz-
runvelyofda gigantur mra-
valterasian baRebs, swored im
baRebs, romlebic herodetem
msoflio saocrebebs miakuTv-
na. Cvenamde mxolod sardafeb-
ma moaRwia, romelTa mixedviT,
samwuxarod Znelia maTi arqi-
teqturis Sesaxeb msjeloba.
legendam Semogvinaxa cnoba,
rom mas Semdeg, rac vaJs tax-
ti dauTmo, semiramida yvela-
ze maRali terasidan gadmoeS-
va da sanam haerSi moqroda,
misi gaSlili xelebi mtredis
frTebad gadaiqca, tani ki
mtredis tanad da jadoqrobis
niWiT dajildoebuli dedofa-
li samudamod gafrinda zeca-
Si. koldeveis kidev erTi ga-
saocari aRmoCena iyo legenda-
ruli godolis narCenebi. ba-
bilonelebi mas „etemenankis“
eZaxdnen, rac niSnavs: `zecisa
da miwis qvakuTxedis taZari“.
herodote gviambobs: `go-
doli camde aziduli da ram-
denime giganturi terasisgan
Sedgeboda. Svidi koSki erTma-
neTze iyo dadgmuli. fundamen-
ti 90 metri siganis iyo
(swored is amoTxara koldeve-
im) da godolic mTlianad ima-
ve simaRlis iyo. pirveli sar-
Tuli 33 metrs aRwevda, meo-
re 18 metrs da danarCeni
oTxi ki 6-6 metrs. sul bo-
lo sarTuli 15 metris simaR-
lis iyo da warmoadgenda mar-
duqis saxelze agebul taZars.
igi dafaruli iyo oqroTi da
mopirkeTebuli cisfrad moWi-
quli aguriT. es taZari mzeze
cisfer-oqrosfrad livliveb-
da da ramdenime kilometris
manZilidan Canda“. Semonaxu-
lia agreTve babilonis mefis
nabofalasaris droindeli
(Cv.w.aR.–mde 626-604 ww.) Ti-
xis firfitebi, romlebic na-
Tels fenen legendaruli go-
dolis istorias. mefe acxa-
debs, rom RmerT marduqis ne-
biT brZaneba gasca, aRedginaT
babilonis godoli. rodis iq-
na godoli pirvelad aSenebu-
li – aravin icis, magram mefe
nabofasalari ambobs, rom mis
mefobamde godoli ramdenjer-
me daangries asureTis mefeeb-
ma sargonma da sanxerobma. ba-
bilonis yoveli momdevno
mmarTveli Tavidan aRadgenda
godols. nabofasalaris mier
warmoebuli aRdgeniTi samuSa-
oebi imdenad Zneli da xangrZ-
livi aRmoCnda, rom mmarTve-
lobis 20 wlis manZilze me-
fem isini ver daasrula da es
misia daekisra mis vaJs nabuqo-
donosors (Cv.w.aR.-mde. 604-
562ww). gavida kidev 40 weli
da babilonis godoli mTeli
Tavisi simSvenieriT warudga
babilonelebs. marduqis taZar-
Si, sadac idga oqros magida
da oqros sawoli, xalxis
rwmunebiT, TviTon RmerTi
aTevda Rames da amitom iq Ses-
vla ubralo mokvdavebs ekrZa-
lebodaT. iq mxolod xalxis
mier arCeuli erTi mzeTunaxa-
vi rCeboda xolme, raTa Rmer-
Ti marduqis alersi rgeboda
wilad.“taZarSi cocxali Rm-
erTis mier Ramis gaTeva saeW-
vod mimaCnia“,–acxadebs hero-
dete. babilonis godolis qve-
da sarTulze mdebareobda
RmerT marduqis meore taZari.
iq idga RmerTis qandakeba, ro-
melTanac xdeboda msxverplSe-
wirva. herodete iuwyeba, rom
qandakeba oqrosi iyo da 24
tonas iwonida. is, visac bedi
gauRimebs da am qandakebas aR-
moaCens, albaT msoflioSi um-
didresi adamiani gaxdeba. go-
dolisken midioda gza, romel-
sac dResaswaulebis dros Se-
udgebodnen xolme qurumebi da
morwmuneni. koldeveim aRmoa-
Cina es saprocesio gza da
aRiara, rom mas vercerTi Ta-
namedrove Sose ver Seedreba.
uZvelesma mSeneblebma gza
kvadratuli filebiT mokirwy-
les, romelTa gverdi 1 metri
iyo, isini dagebuli iyo agu-
ris safarze, romelic jer ki-
dev asfaltiT iyo dafaruli.
filebis napirebi inkrustire-
buli iyo. maT Soris RriWoe-
bi ki asfaltiT iyo amovsebu-
li. TiToeuli filis Sida
mxareze qvismTlelebs amout-
vifravT warwera: “me – nabu-
qodonosorma, babilonis mefem,
es gza davage ufal marduqis-
Tvis“. axla Znelia srulad
Sefasdes babilonSi arsebuli
sainJinro done. momaval Tao-
bebs babilonelebma dautoves
godoli da semiramidas baRebi,
saocrad zusti gamoTvlebis
sistema, zusti warmodgenebi
ciuri mnaTobebis Sesaxeb da
cruwrmena Sav katasTan dakav-
SirebiT. lursmnuli damwer-
lobis firfitebis gaSifrvis
Sedegad, enaTmecnierebma daad-
gines, rom im dros adamianebs
eSinodaT Savi katis. Tu Savi
kata gzas gadaWrida, es ube-
durebis niSani iyo. ubedureba
da uiRbloba yovelTvis Tan
sdevda babilons. nabuqodono-
soris mefobis Semdeg Cv.w.aR.-
mde 538 wels babiloni daipy-
ro sparseTis mefem kirosma,
magram babilonis godolma
masze iseTi STabeWdileba mo-
axdina, rom brZaneba gasca, na-
geboba xeluxleblad Seenar-
CunebinaT da mis saflavze go-
dolis miniaturuli asli da-
edgaT. sparseTis Semdegi mefe
qserqse naklebad sentimenta-
luri aRmoCnda. man godoli
nangrevebad aqcia. es nangreve-
bi ixila indoeTSi salaSqrod
mimavalma aleqsandre makedo-
nelma. gaognebuli Sescqeroda
igi giganturi nagebobis naS-
Tebs da ori TviT SeCerda ba-
bilonSi Tavis laSqarTan er-
Tad. am xnis ganmavlobaSi misi
jariskacebi gulmodgined asu-
fTavebdnen nangrevebs, riTac
pativs miagebdnen Zveli dide-
bis naSTs.
bbaabbiilloonniissggooddoollii
30 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
tomas insi
tomas insi, erT-erTi yvelze
cnobili da holivudis pioneri
dacxriles gazeTebis gavrcele-
bis magnatis rudolf herstis
daCaze iaxtaSi. misi sikvdilis
Sesaxeb pirvelma swored ru-
dolf herstma dabeWda da ga-
nacxada, rom igi gulis SeteviT
gardaicvala. gamoZieba ar Cata-
rebula. sinamdvileSi insi hers-
tma SemTxveviT daxvrita, roca
misi SeSineba undoda. insi cdi-
lobda herstis sayvareli qalis
abigail kinsolvingis gaupatiu-
rebas.
jenet heinori
jenet heinori avtokatast-
rofaSi sastikad daSavda Tavis
meuRlesTan reJisorTan da pro-
diuserTan pol gregorisTan er-
Tad, romelic masze 15 wliT
umcrosi iyo. manqanaSi jenetis
sayvareli qali meri martinic
ijda. jenetma mZime travmebi mi-
iRo da ramdenimejer Cautarda
operacia. morigi qirurgiuli
Carevisas, avtokatastrofidan 2
wlis Semdeg heinori 77 wlis
asakSi gardaicvala.
jeims dini
jeims dini avtoavariiT gar-
daicvala Tavis vercxlisfer
`porSe 500 spaiderSi~. gardac-
valebamde erTi kviriT adre Sem-
TxveviT gacnobilma alek gines-
ma, romelic los-anjelesSi mi-
dioda filmSi pirvelad gadasa-
Rebad, jeims dins uTxra:`ar
iaro am avtomanqaniT, Tu ara
erTi kvirac ar gaivlis, daiRu-
pebi.~ sikvdilamde dini sarek-
lamo rgolSi gadaiRes, rome-
lic miZRvnili iyo avtomoyva-
ruli mozardebisTvis gasafr-
Txileblad, Tavi aeridebinaT
saWesTan gadaWarbebuli siCqa-
risTvis. reklamaSi dini ambobda:
`SeaneleT siCqare, sicocxle,
romelsac Tqven gadaarCenT, Se-
saZloa, Cemi iyos~.
linda darleni
linda darleni mTeli cxov-
reba cecxlis SiSiT itanjebo-
da. erT dRes, roca mas gastri-
tis mwvave Seteva hqonda, Tavis
mdivanTan darCa CikagoSi. taxt-
ze wamowva da saSineli tkivi-
lebisgan Tavis dasaRwevad fil-
mis `varskvlavuri ferflis~
yureba daiwyo. darlens taxtze
CaeZina xelSi anTebuli sigare-
tiT. mexanZreebma igi mZvinvare
cecxlis nakadidan gamoiyvanes,
magram ori dRis Semdeg saavadm-
yofoSi gardaicvala.
bobi driksoli
bobi driksoli, amerikis say-
vareli msxaxiobi, supervarskv-
lavi, romelic 12 wlis ganmav-
lobaSi flobda `oskars~ 31
wlis asakSi zogierTis azriT
hepatitiT, zogierTisa _ infar-
qtiT gardaicvala. misi sxeuli
miyruebul SenobaSi griniC-vi-
lijze or upatrono bavSvTan
erTad ipoves da RatakTa sasaf-
laoze saerTo saflavSi daasaf-
laves. ramdenime Tvis Semdeg
moxda misi amocnoba TiTis ana-
beWdebis saSualebiT. sinamdvi-
leSi driksoli herionma Seiwi-
ra.
semi devisi
semi devis umcrosi gardaic-
vala yelis kiboTi. man uari
Tqva operaciaze, radgan sicocx-
lis bolomde ver sZlia alko-
holuri sasmelebis siyvaruls.
greis keli
greis kelim saWe ver dai-
morCila, misi `roveri~ umisa-
marTod gafrinda, ramdenimejer
haerSi amotrialda da miwaze
ukuRma, borblebiT maRla daeca.
misi gogona stefani, rogorc
ityvian, saswaulebrivad gadarCa
da manqanis im fanjridan gadmoZ-
vra, sadac mZRolis adgili iyo.
amboben, rom saWesTan ara deda,
aramed swored stefani ijda.
greis keli saavadmyofoSi co-
cxali miiyvanes, magram eqimebi
maSinve ambobdnen, rom misi ga-
darCena SeuZlebeli iyo. imave
dRes greiss xelovnuri sunTq-
vis aparati gamourTes.
bing krosbi
bing krosbi saswrafo daxma-
rebis manqanaSi gardaicvala. an-
derZSi miTiTebuli hqonda, rom
Svilebs ar hqondaT ufleba
esargeblaT misi qonebiT, sanam
65 wlis ar gaxdebodnen. Semdeg
Svilma geri krosbim dawera
wigni, sadac aRwerda, ramdenad
sastiki iyo mama.
suzan keboti
suzan keboti Tavisma 22 wl-
is juja vaJma cemiT mokla, ris-
Tvisac man Stangis rkina gamoi-
yena.
brius li
sikvdilamde ramdenime dRiT
adre 32 wlis brus lim goneba
dakarga gadasaReb moedanze. Tum-
ca maSinve mosulma eqimTa jguf-
ma msaxiobs veraviTari paTolo-
gia ver aRmouCines. ramdenime
dRis Semdeg saqmiani molapara-
kebis dros kvlav igive ganmeor-
da. msaxiobi saavadmyofoSi gada-
iyvanes da iqve gardaicvala.
oficialur versiad tvinis daa-
vadeba dasaxelda, magram, varau-
doben, rom li mokles.
piter lofordi
piter lofordi, jon kene-
dis suteniori, 61 wlis asakSi
gardaicvala mravali wlis nar-
komaniisa da alkoholizmisgan.
sikvdilamde ramdenime dRiT ad-
re igi komaSi Cavarda, sikvdi-
lis momentSi kunTebis sruli
spazmi daemarTa da Tvalebidan,
yurebidan da piridan sisxls as-
xamda.
vivien li
vivian li tuberkuloziT da
SizofreniiT iyo daavadebuli.
mas midrekileba hqonda bavSvebis
wamebisken, raSic Svebas naxu-
lobda. vivian li 52 wlis asak-
Si tuberkuloziT gardaicvala.
mirna loi
mirna loi 88 wlis asakSi
saoperacio magidaze gardaicva-
la. gardacvalebis mizezi mkac-
rad gaasaidumloes.
Carz loutoni
Carlz loutoni 63 wlis
asakSi gardaicvala, oficialu-
ri cnobiT kibos daavadebisgan.
sinamdvileSi mas Sidsi hqonda.
bela lugoSi
bela lugoSi (cnobili `dr-
akula~) 73 wlisa gulis Sete-
viT gardaicvala da misi ander-
Zis mixedviT, is drakulas pal-
toTi daasaflaves.
cnobili adamianebis sikvdilis ucnauri garemoebani
dasasruli. dasawyisi
ix. `saerTo gazeTi~ #11
31saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
«ß ïîìíþ ÷óäíîå ìãíîâåíüå,ïåðåäî ìíîé ÿâèëàñü òû...» _ sa-yovelTaod cnobilia, rom es
striqonebi cnobilma rusma po-
etma aleqsandr puSkinma ana
petrovna kerns dauwera. magram
yvelam ar icis, rom `silamazis
genia~ (`ãåíèé ÷èñòîé êðàñîòû~)ana petrovnas 36 wlis asakSi
TavdaviwyebiT Seuyvarda Tavisi
biZaSvili aleqsandr markov-vi-
nogradski.
es ambavi gasaocari maincada-
mainc ar iqneboda, peterburgis
pirveli kadetTa korpusis kade-
ti, anas biZaSvili da rCeuli
maSin 16 wlis rom ar yofili-
yo. aleqsandre Tavis Seyvare-
bulze da Semdeg meuRleze 20
wliT patara gaxldaT. Tumca
amas ar SeuSlia xeli meuRlee-
bisTvis mTeli cxovreba urTi-
erTTanxmobasa da siyvarulSi
gaetarebinaT TviT siRaribis
wlebSic ki, anas gardacvalebam-
de. ana 79 wlisa gardaicvala.
mTeli maTi tkbili Tanacxovre-
bis periodSi aleqsandre uZRv-
nida leqsebs. es leqsebi marTa-
lia, misi sexnia puSkinis nawar-
moebebs sakmaod CamorCeboda,
magram ar SeiZleba aRfrTovane-
ba ar dageufloT im werilebis
wakiTxvisas, romlebsac aleqsan-
dre anas werda.
`SeiZleba vinmes Cveni kavSi-
ri ucnaurad eCveneba, magram rac
undaT, is ifiqron, me madlobas
veubnebi RmerTs, rom Cven erTad
varT! SeuZlebeli iyo sxvanai-
rad bednieri vyofiliya-
viT. sxva SemTxvevaSi xom
ar gveyoleboda saSeCka
(markov-vinogradskisa da
anas vaJi), romelic dRes
Cveni bednierebaa. rac ar
unda moxdes, ar meSinia,
radgan darwmunebuli var,
yvelaferi kargad iqneba,
yvelaferi saukeTesosken
Seicvleba.~
`ra udidesi netare-
baa, mZime Sromis Semdeg
mieyrdno colis fafuk
mkerds (am mkerdis pat-
roni maSin 40 wlis
iyo.), CaiZiro misi aler-
sis sinazesa da kocnis
simxurvaleSi.~
`me adrec vTqvi, rom
mjera Cemi colis da Se-
miZlia darwmunebiT vTqva,
rom mas verasdros veraferi
Secvlis. zogierTs hgonia, rom
gava dro da me Sevcvli mas. es
arasdros moxdeba.~
rusi mxatvris erT cnobil
tiloze gamosaxulia ymawvili
gogona, romelic qorwindeba
xnier mamakacze. im droisTvis es
qorwineba ramdenadme ironiis
Semcvelic ki iyo, magram axla
10-15 wliT ufros mamakacze da-
qorwineba arc gaocebas iwvevs,
arc Soks, arc ironias, Tumca
ymawvili vaJi da asakovani qali,
es ar aris ubralo SemTxveva.
aseT faqtebze amboben, rom es
aris oidiposis sindromi, anda
didi codva.
magram sxva SemTxvevaa, roca
asakiT ufrosi mamakaci axalgaz-
rda qals irTavs colad. asako-
vani qmari axalgazrda cols uq-
mnis stabilurobis SegrZnebas,
simSvides, materialur uzrun-
velyofas, sazogadoebriv sta-
tuss. adre iTvleboda, rom asa-
kovani mamakacisa da axalgazrda
qalis qorwinebis Sedegad goni-
eri, niWieri STamomavloba
ibadeboda. sinamdvileSi,
mamakacs aqvs SesaZleblo-
ba janmrTeli da gonieri
STamomavloba iyolios
Rrma siberemdec. (amis ma-
galiTad Carli Caplini
da konCalovskic gamodge-
bian). Tumca adre miiCneo-
da, rom qali, romelic
klimaqsis periods miaR-
wevs, gonebaCamorCenil da
avadmyof STamomavlobas
badebso. dRes medicina ise
ganviTarda, rom am hipo-
Tezaze laparakic zedme-
tia. 40 welze ufros
qalbatonebs xSirad meti
Sansi aqvT gaaCninon janm-
rTeli bavSvi.
balzaki ambobda, `qali
daberebas 23 wlis asaki-
dan iwyebso~, magram gasuli sa-
ukunis dasawyisSi 23 wlisa
ymawvil gogonad iTvleboda, sa-
ukunis Suaguls axalgazrdad
30 wlis qals miiCnevdnen, 2000
wlidan seqssimbolod, rogorc
`seqsi did qalaqSia~, 40 wels
gadacilebuli qalbatonebi Ca-
iTvalnen.
didi xani ar aris, rac ga-
moqveynda aRmoCena, romelic
niu-jersel mecniersa da mkvle-
vars, doqtor debora fromers
ekuTvnis. misi kvlevis Sedegad
dadginda, rom qalTa 80% seq-
sualurobis piks 35-dan 45
wlamde aRwevs. am asakSi nakle-
bad kompleqsurebi arian, ufro
saintereso da pikanturni sa-
wolSi, aqvT meti gamocdileba,
ukeTesad ician sakuTari eroge-
nuli zonebis Sesaxeb da ufro
iolad da xSirad aRwevn or-
gazms. amitom arcaa gasakviri,
rom am asakis qalebi yvela asa-
kis mamakacebisTvis sasurveli
partniorebi arian.
samwuxarod, miaCniaT, rom ma-
ugli-bavSvebi mxolod tyeSi an
junglebSi cxovroben, arada isi-
ni, SeiZleba, qalaqebSi an sof-
lebSi cxovrobdnen Cvens gver-
diT.
ukraineli gogona-ZaRli, oq-
sana malaia 3 wlisa alkoholik-
ma mSoblebma quCaSi datoves. is
upatrono ZalRebTan izrdeboda
8 wlis ganmavlobaSi. ikvebeboda
gadayrili saWmelis narCenebiT.
gogonas daaviwyda is sityvebi,
rac 3 wlis asakamde icoda da
gaxda ZaRlebis xrovis sruluf-
lebiani wevri. roca is naxes
1991 weli iyo. bavSvma saerTod
ar icoda laparaki, sityvebis ma-
givrad yefda da oTx fexze da-
dioda. axla oqsana 20 wlisaa.
mas aswavles laparaki, magram
fsiqiuri ganviTarebiT kvlav da-
bal doneze dgas. yvelaze xSirad
Zroxebs dahyveba, romlebsac im
internatis siaxloves aZoveben,
sadac axla oqsana cxovrobs. mar-
Talia, oqsanam laparaki ase Tu
ise iswavla, magram mis metyvele-
baSi ar igrZnoba aranairi mimika,
arc emocia.
1996 wels 4 wlis moskove-
li ivan miSukovi saxlidan gaipa-
ra. isic ZaRlebis xrovaSi aRmoC-
nda da oTxfexebma miiRes, ro-
gorc beladi da meTauri. biWuna
quCaSi agrovebda saWmels, mas
dacvad ramdenime ZaRli yovelT-
vis axlda. saWmelis ganawilebas
beladi TviTon awarmoebda. biWis
daWera policiam karga xans ver
moaxerxa imis gamo, rom mas erT-
guli da Seupovari dacva hyavda.
ivanuSka quCaSi 2 weliwadi
cxovrobda. Cveulebriv cxovre-
bas rom daubrunda, mas enis Ses-
wavla arc ki dasWirvebia, radgan
roca gaiqca, laparaki icoda.
1996 wels CineTis gareuban-
Si patara biWi daiWires, romel-
sac tani mTlianad bewviT hqonda
dafaruli. monadireebma igi bam-
bukis daTvebis, pandebis garemoc-
vaSi SeamCnies. CineTSi es ukve me-
same SemTxvevaa, rac bavSvebi pan-
debTan izrdebian. pirvelad aseTi
SemTxveva 1892 wels moxda, meo-
re 1923 wels. pandebTan gazrdi-
li bavSvebi oTx fexze dadian.
or fexze roca dgebodnen, Tavs
ver imagrebdnen. piris dabanis
dros ise iqceodnen, rogorc ka-
tebi, maTi sakvebi iyo bambukis
foTlebi da ylortebi. bunebriv
moTxovnilebebs cxovelebiviT ik-
mayofilebdnen, pandebiviT Sar-
davdnen da a.S. yvirodnen, roca
raimeTi ukmayofiloni iyvnen.
Cinelma biologma da mkvle-
varma xou men lum Seiswavla bi-
Wuna-panda da acxadebs, rom is,
savaraudod, mSoblebma datoves
tyeSi, radgan mas dabadebidanve
tani bewviT hqonda dafaruli. bi-
Wuna pandebma ipoves da TavianTi
`ojaxis~ wevrad miiRes. axali
tipis maugli 36 wlis monadirem
xuan vaim daiWira. dRevandlamde
igi xuan vais saxlSi cxovrobs
mis meuRlesTan da 5 wlis gogo-
nasTan erTad.
mecnierebi Tvlian, rom bavS-
vi, rodesac tyeSi datoves, 1-1,5
wlis SeiZleba yofiliyo. patara
mauglis xelebsa da fexebze gr-
Zeli frCxilebi hqonda. dasawyis-
Si yvelas kbenda da kawravda. Ta-
vidan gauWirda adamianebTan er-
Tad cxovreba, magram Semdeg nel-
nela iswavla ramdenime sityva da
Seegua axal cxovrebas. Tumca
dRemde, roca raime awuxebs, ki
ar tiris, aramed wkmutunebs,
rogorc patara ZaRli.
Seusabamo qorwinebebi
Cveni drois maugli-bavSvebi 76 wlis poloneli mefu-
tkre diliT gondakarguli
waiqca. eqimebma misi uecari
sikvdili daafiqsires. rode-
sac micvalebuli iozef guzi
kuboSi Caawvines, mwuxare qv-
rivma moiTxova moxseniT gul-
sakidi Cems qmars, samaxsov-
rod rom damrCeso.
da moxda saswa-
uli.
is, rac datrialda polo-
neTSi, amtkicebs, rom mkvdre-
TiT aRdgoma fantastikis sfe-
ros ar ganekuTvneba. eqimebi
amtkiceben, rom iozefs guli
gauCerda, ar sunTqavda, sxeu-
li gaucivda, e.i. mokvda. me-
saflave, yofili meSaxte da-
rius visluxato yveba: gasas-
veneblad rom mivediT, iozefi
ukve kuboSi ramdenime saaTis
win CaesvenebinaT. sanam kubos
Tavs daaxuravdnen, naTesavebma
moisurves ramdenime Zvirfasi
nivTi saxsovrad amoeRoT ku-
bodan. iozefis siZem moindoma
simamris saaTi hqonoda, qvriv-
ma gulsakidis moxsna gadawy-
vita. me mivedi, yelze xeli
movkide, rom gulsakidi Se-
mexsna da gavSeSdi, magram
uceb gonze movedi da daviyvi-
re, guli ucems-meTqi. davem-
xe iozefs da gulis cemac Se-
vigrZe-
ni da sun-
Tqvac. es iyo
saswauli.
maSinve movida
saswrafo daxmareba. ,,ki-
dev kargi, rom kubos Tavi ar
daaxures, Torem es iqneboda
udidesi tragedia, madloba
RmerTs~, - amboben saswrafo
daxmarebis TanamSromlebi.
iozef guzi reanimaciaSi daaw-
vines, ramdenime kviris Semdeg
ki sakuTar saxlSi dabrunda
Tavis futkrebTan.
,,mesaflavem me sicocxle
maCuqa. misi didi madlieri
var. rogorc ki fexze dgomas
SevZleb, mas kasriT Tafls va-
Cuqeb~, - ambobs iozefi.
moamzada
ana vadaWkoriam
gardacvlili 76 wlis moxuci kubodan wamodga
ana kerni
aleqsandr
puSkini
oqsana
malaia
ivan
miSukovi
32 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
33saerTo gazeTi#12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
34 saerTo gazeTi #12 (196), 7-13.III, 2012 w.
iinntteerrvviiuu nnaaTTeellmmxxiillvveell-
TTaann,, rroommlliiss SSeessaaxxeebbaacc mmxxoo-
lloodd iiss SSeeggvviiZZlliiaa vvTTqqvvaaTT,,
rroomm ssmmaaiiddaa hhqqvviiaa..
__ wwaarrmmooSSoobbiiTT qqaarrTTvveellii
aarr ggaaxxllaavvaarrTT.. aaqqaauurrmmaa ccoollmmaa-
qqmmaarrmmaa mmiiSSvviillaa.. rriiggiiddaann CCaammoo-
mmiiyyvvaanneess.. ddeeddaaCCeemmii mmiivvlliinneebbiiTT
iiyyoo iiqq.. ssaammii wwlliiss vvyyooffiillvvaarr,,
rrooddeessaacc ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss mmiiwwaazzee
ddaavvaaddggii ffeexxii.. rrooccaa wwaammoovviizzaarr-
ddee,, CCeemmmmaa aaqqaauurrmmaa mmSSoobblleebbmmaa
ggaammiimmxxiilleess ssiimmaarrTTllee,, ZZaalliiaann
ddiidd ppaattiivvss vvcceemm mmaaTT aammiiss ggaa-
mmoo..
miuxedavad imisa, rom bal-
tiispireTidan var, Crdiloe-
li adamianisTvis damaxasiaTe-
beli garegnoba ar maqvs. ra-
Rac aziuric mirevia, ase meub-
nebian sxvebic. SesaZloa, Cemma
aqaurma dedam yvelaferi ico-
da Cemi warmomavlobis Sesa-
xeb, magram arasodes araferi
uTqvams.
__ ssmmaaiiddaa,, ssaannaamm xxiillvveebbiiss
SSeessaaxxeebb vviissaauubbrreebbddeeTT,, rrooggoorrcc
ggaavviiggee,, ZZaalliiaann ggiiyyvvaarrTT bbuunneebbaa..
aarrcc eess aarr aarriiss SSeemmTTxxvveevviiTT......
_ SemTxveviT, albaT, ara-
feri xdeba. buneba marTlac
Zalian miyvars. aseve bavSvobi-
dan miyvarda cxovelebi. vici,
amaSi gansakuTrebuls vera-
fers dainaxavT, magram ucnau-
ri is gaxlavT, rom TiTqos
cxovelebs Cemi ena esmodaT.
kargi profesionali momTvini-
erebeliviT or wuTSi SemeZ-
lo dameSoSminebina gaavebuli
ZaRli, amis araerTi SemTxveva
mqonia. gavixseneb kidev erT
ambavs: kojorSi visvenebdiT.
maSin 32-33 wlisa viqnebodi.
ezos gadaRma modis erTi ad-
gilobrivi mcxovrebi mamakaci
da mouZRveba cxens. mezobeli
Semoxvda, Sedga da gauba sau-
bari. Zalian lamazi cxeni iyo.
gamovedi ezodan, mivedi, mive-
fere, davuwye laparaki. amaso-
baSi misi patroni da mezobe-
li gamoeSvidobnen erTmaneTs,
moubrunda is cxens da moqaCa
gza gavagrZeloTo, magram uc-
nauri ram moxda. cxeni dadga,
adgilidan ar iZvroda, Tan me
miyurebda. isev mivefere, adgi-
lidan ar iZvris, miyurebs.
`monusxe?~ _ mekiTxeba patro-
ni. isev mieZala wasasvlelad.
cxeni Cemsken gamoiwia, isev
TvalebSi miyurebda. mivxvdi,
rom raRac unda memoqmeda,
Torem is kaci me damiwyebda
Cxubs. `wadi~, _ vubrZane,
`gahyevi patrons~. cxenma Tavi
CaRuna, mitrialda patronis-
ken da nel-nela gahyva.
__ xxiillvveebbiiss uunnaarriiss mmqqoonnee
aaddaammiiaannss aallbbaaTT,, bbuunneebbiiss ddaa
ccxxoovveelleebbiissaacc uunnddaa eessmmooddeess..
aaxxllaa mmooggvviiyyeevviiTT,, rrooddiiss ggaaaacc-
nnoobbiieerreeTT ppiirrvveellaadd,, rroomm zzeemmgg-
rrZZnnoobbeelloobbaa ggaaxxaassiiaaTTeebbTT ddaa
xxiillvveebbiicc ggaaqqvvTT??
_ Tavidan sizmrebiT da-
iwyo yvelaferi. axlobel
ojaxSi viyavi stumrad. axali
wlis dReebi iyo, viqeifeT da
davrCi kidec meore dRemde.
maspinZlebi axalgazrda col-
qmari iyvnen, ori wlis bavSvi
hyavdaT. imaTi naTesavi stum-
robda kidev im dRes. me da
imas calke oTaxSi gveZina.
daRlili viyavi, Rrmad CameZi-
na, magram vnaxe Zalian mkafio
sizmari: viTom baliSidan Ta-
vi wamovwie, Sevyureb wina ke-
dels, saidanac gamodis axal-
gazrda qalis figura. nel-ne-
la miaxlovdeba. nakvTebic ga-
varCie, Zalian lamazi saxe
hqonda, didi lurji Tvalebi.
gamaoca misma silamazem, (da
ara gamoCenam, sizmarSi ar
SemSlia). mere uecrad xelebi
gamoiwvdina Cemsken, TandaTan
izrdeba es xelebi, izrdeba
misi Tavic da bolos es lama-
zi Cveneba saSinel koSmarad
iqca. modis misi uzarmazari
torebi Cemi saxisken, SiSisgan
guli amiCqarda, cotac da uk-
ve mexeba, ucbad xmamaRla Sev-
kivle: `uSveleT! bavSvi ixr-
Coba!~ da gamomeRviZa. ise mi-
kivlia, yvela gavaRviZe, da-
zafrulebi wamovardnen da
gvesmis bavSvis xrotini. Tur-
me pataras gverdze gadabrune-
buls ise CasZinebia, saxe ba-
liSze edo da ixrCoboda. eca
dedamisi, Semoabruna, bavSvma
amoisunTqa da mSvidi fSvinva
amouSva.
21-22 wlis win, roca jer
kidev Zalian areuli ar iyo
qveyanaSi situacia, sizmarSi
vxedav: ulamazo, saxeze ier-
oglifebmoxatuli xalxiTaa
savse quCebi, dablebi iyvnen,
jujebs hgavdnen. `yvelgan Se-
aRwies~, _ meubneba viRacis
xma, yvelgan batonoben. mas
mere sul male samoqalaqo
omi daiwyo, rasac mohyva yve-
la sxva ubedureba. im saxemo-
xatuli uSno xalxis saxiT me
vnaxe, rom qveyanaSi cudi
energia movida.
gaiara orma weliwadma da
xilvebi cxadSic damewyo. vT-
qvaT vuyureb raimes an vinmes,
vakvirdebi da ucbad Tvalwin
sul sxva raRac warmomidgeba
xolme.
__ ssaaxxeellddoobbrr,, rrooggoorr?? ssiivv-
rrccee iiccvvlleebbaa TTuu ccaallkkeeuullii
ffiigguurreebbii??
_ erT magaliTs mogiyvanT:
megobar qalTan. viyavi stum-
rad, rZali hyavda orsulad.
vzivarT, vsaubrobT. Cemdaune-
burad Tvali gamiSterda, vxe-
dav patara biWma gairbina
oTaxSi da gaqra. jer SemeSin-
da, es ra davinaxe-meTqi da me-
re ucbad vTqvi: amaT biWi eyo-
lebaT. (rZali maSin mesame
TveSi iyo), marTlac cxra
Tvis Tavze biWi gaCnda.
__ rrCCeevveebbiissTTvviiss mmoouummaarrTTaavvTT
TTqqvveennTTvviiss??
_ diax. erT nacnobTan vi-
yavi ojaxSi. damaxvedra amba-
vi. meore bina rom mqonda,
gavyideo. aRebul fuls saqme-
Si upirebda dabandebas. Cemi
axali biznes-partniori unda
gagacnoo, meubneba. marTlac
male movida misi stumari da
ucbad vxedav: oTaxSi Semo-
dis qali, romelsac aqvs
uzarmazari piri da ar aqvs...
tuCebi. guli kinaRam wamivi-
da SiSisgan. Tvalebi davxuWe,
gavaxile isev da vxedav araf-
riT gamorCeuli garegnobis
qals. amovisunTqe koSmari
rom gaqra, magram ar momewo-
na es Cveneba, cudad meniSna.
stumari male wavida da nac-
nobs movaxsene Cemi xilvis
Sesaxeb. Tan davamate, xom
ici, amas SemTxveviT ar davi-
naxavdi da am adamians nu en-
dobi, Tavi Seikave magasTan
TanamSromlobisgan-meTqi. Se-
ni ki mjera, magram iqneb Se-
ni Cveneba sul sxva rames mi-
aniSnebs, an avadaa, an raRac
amdagvari, Torem ise sruli-
ad sando adamiani Canso. mainc
nu endobi, dro gaiyvane, Tavi
Seikave, gedos jer eg fuli,
ar yviris-meTqi. ar damijera,
ando fuli im `biznes-le-
dis~. ise yvelaferi kargad
agvixdes me da Tqven, rogorc
imas Cemi naTqvami auxda, Tan
sul male. is qali fulianad
daikarga.
__ TTqqvveenn aaRRnniiSSnneeTT,, rroomm 9900-
iiaann wwlleebbSSii ggqqoonnddaaTT xxiillvvaa,,
rraammaacc qqvveeyyaannaaSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree mmoovv-
lleenneebbzzee mmiiggaanniiSSnnaaTT.. aammggvvaarrii mmii-
nniiSSnneebbeebbii aamm bboolloo wwlleebbSSii aarr
ggqqoonniiaaTT??
_ vardebis revoluciis
winadReebSi gamomesaxa xilva:
cis kabadonze (saRamo Jams)
gaCnda kacis figura, saxe ga-
muruli hqonda, xelebs mari-
onetiviT iqnevda da raRacas
gaiZaxoda. ukan raRac cimcima
sinaTleebi mohyvebodnen. meo-
re saRamos televizors vuyu-
rebdi da vxedav manqanebis did
mwkrivs, anTebuli farebiT,
win mixeil saakaSvili mo-
uZRodaT manqaniT. albaT, gax-
sovT walenjixidan dawyebuli
svla. gamuruli saxe xilvaSi
aragulwrfeli, muxTali su-
lis mimaniSnebelia, marione-
tiviT moqanave xelebi imaze
mianiSnebda, rom sul marione-
tiviT iqneboda, sxvisi samar-
Tavi da aris kidec ase. magram
radgan misi figura didi mas-
StabiT gamoCnda cis fonze,
amaze mianiSnebs, rom Zala mi-
eca da mas mere daxtunaobs
kidec ager ukve mecxre weli.
__ aamm bboolloo ddrrooss TTuu ggqqoo-
nniiaaTT xxiillvvaa qqvveeyyaannaaSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree
mmoovvlleenneebbTTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT??
_ mqonda, cota ucnauri,
rusTavelis prospeqtze viya-
vi, rusTavelis Teatris pir-
dapir quCaze mivdiodi, ucbad
Tavbru damexva. SevCerdi, Can-
da davde da Cemdauneburad Te-
atrs davuwye yureba. uecrad
vxedav, Teatri gamqrala da
mis adgilze dgas uzarmazari,
Senobis toli farSevangi
dgas da nel-nela Slis Tavis
aseve Zalian did kuds, gver-
diT patara farSevangebi dga-
nan da ganabulebi, TiTqos
elian ras izams es giganti,
wevs kuds nel-nela da ucbad
xilva gaqra, yvelaferi Tavis
adgilze dabrunda. davavle
xeli CanTas da iqaurobas gav-
Sordi. meore dRes televizi-
ac da presac biZina ivaniSvi-
lis politikur asparezze ga-
mosvlis Sesaxeb alaparakda.
__ aannuu,, TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, xxiill-
vvaa aammaazzee mmiiaanniiSSnneebbddaa??
_ diax. ivaniSvili meore
dResve gamoCnda. axsna ornai-
rad SeiZleba. farSevangis
xilviT da yavis naleqze
mkiTxaobis dros did warma-
tebas niSnavs, sizmarSi ara-
ordinaluri, didi energiis
adamianis gamoCenas. amisi maga-
liTebi istoriaSic mravla-
daa. (magaliTad: netari mat-
ronas dedam mis dabadebamde
TvalebdaxuWuli didi farSe-
vangis magvari frinveli naxa
sizmarSi. marTlac matrona
dabadebidan brma iyo), anu es
adamiani iseT raRacas moimoq-
medebs samudamod darCeba qvey-
nis istoriaSi.
__ ddiiaaggnnoozzii TTuu ddaaggiissvvaammTT
aaddaammiiaanniissTTvviiss??
_ ki, asi gramis Semdeg (i-
cinis). ratomRac cotas rom
davlev, adamianis auris dazi-
anebul adgilebs kargad vxe-
dav. es sruliad SemTxveviT
aRmovaCine. TanamSromlebTan
erTad davlie, damewyo xilva
da oTxs utyuari diagnozi
davusvi. Tumca mimaCnia, rom
es Zalian safrTxilo sa-
kiTxia da mTlianad Cems Tav-
ze ver viReb, meSinia.
__ xxaallxxss iiRReebbTT??
_ Zalian iSviaTad, raRac
ar maZlevs uflebas bolomde
am saqmes mivdio. albaT, imi-
tom, rom xilvebi xSirad Ta-
visiT momdis da ara SekveTiT.
arc me veZalebi. mTavaria, xan-
daxan mainc vaxerxeb vinmes
davexmaro da vanugeSo.
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nas sTavazobs saqar-
Tvelos - calmxri-
vad gauqmebuli savizo reJimis
sapasuxod. vot!!!es imas niS-
navs, rom miSa ruseTis kacia
da gadmougdes bawari... biZina
ar awyobT... amasTan, yvelaferi
gaiasnebuli aqvT... biZamisic
imitom Cagvinerges aq...uaxlo-
es momavalSi Cvens aqtiur mi-
Sistebs, romelic ruseTumeo-
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arsebobs Zveli sibr-
Zne: `araa adamiani,
araa problema”. gir-
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ra daerqmeva am movlenebs, ro-
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uvizo reJimi oku-
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amerikasTan... CemTvis
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gamxecebulebi Sig aravis uS-
veben. sam qals win ver gadag-
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didi xania ar vyofilvar! ne-
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_ SeiZleba Tu ara saproceso
SeTanxmebiT piri srulad gaTavi-
sufldes sisxlis samarTlebrivi
pasuxismgeblobisagan da ra SemTx-
vevaSi?
_ diax. mas iTvaliswinebs sis-
xlis samarTlebrivi kanonmdeblo-
ba.
gansakuTrebul SemTxvevebSi,
rodesac braldebulis mier saga-
moZiebo organoebTan TanamSromlo-
bis Sedegad gamovlinda Tanamdebo-
bis piris (pirebis) vinaoba da mi-
si uSualo xelSewyobiT moxerxda
danaSaulis gaxsnisTvis arsebiTi
pirobebis Seqmna, sasamarTlo uf-
lebamosilia srulad gaaTavisuf-
los braldebuli sisxlis samarT-
lebrivi pasuxismgeblobisagan.
aqve getyviT, rom aseT SemTx-
vevaSi piri mainc nasamarTlevad
iTvleba.
damatebiT mogaxsenebT, rom
braldebulis sasjelisagan sru-
lad gaTavisufleba dauSvebelia
saqarTvelos sisxlis samarTlis
kodeqsis 144-1-e (wameba), 144-2
(wamebis muqara) da 144-3-e (damam-
cirebeli an araadamianuri mopyro-
ba) muxlebiT gaTvaliswinebul da-
naSaulTa saqmeebze.
* * *
_ SezRuduli Seracxadoba
aTavisuflebs Tu ara pirs sisx-
lis samarTlebrivi pasuxismgeblo-
bisagan?
_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis
35-e muxlis I nawilis mixedviT,
sisxlis samarTlebrivi pasuxism-
geblobisagan ar Tavisufldeba
srulwlovani, romelic danaSau-
lis Cadenis dros imyofeboda
SezRuduli Seracxadobis mdgoma-
reobaSi, e.i. fsiqikuri daavadebis
gamo ar SeeZlo srulad gaecnobi-
erebina Tavisi qmedebis faqtobrivi
xasiaTi an marTlwinaaRmdegoba an-
da exelmZRvanela misTvis.
amave muxlis II nawilis mixed-
viT, SezRudul Seracxadobas sasa-
marTlo iTvaliswinebs sasjelis
daniSvnis dros.
amave muxlis III nawilis mixed-
viT, sisxlissamarTlebrivi pasu-
xismgeblobisagan SeiZleba gaTavi-
sufldes arasrulwlovani, rome-
lic danaSaulis Cadenis dros im-
yofeboda SezRuduli Seracxado-
bis mdgomareobaSi.
* * *
_ rogoria Tavisuflebis aRk-
veTis maqsimaluri vada?
_ vadiani Tavisuflebis aRkve-
Ta iniSneba eqvsi Tvidan oc wlam-
de vadiT.
vadiani Tavisuflebis aRkveTis
maqsimaluri vada danaSaulTa er-
TobliobiT sasjelTa Sejamebisas
ar unda aRematebodes 30 wels,
xolo ganaCenTa erTobliobiT sas-
jelTa Sejamebisas _ 40 wels.
* * *
_ SeiZleba Tu ara ukve msjav-
rdebulTan saproceso SeTanxmebis
gaformeba?
_ Tqven, albaT, gulisxmobT
Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT msjavrde-
bulis mimarT saproceso garigebis
SesaZlo faqtors.
diax, maseTsac iTvaliswinebs
kanonmdebloba.
sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis
73-e muxlis I nawilis mixedviT,
gansakuTrebul SemTxvevaSi, ro-
melsac Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT
msjavrdebulis sagamoZiebo orga-
noebTan TanamSromlobis Sedegad
irkveva Tanamdebobis piris an-da
gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulis
Camdeni piris vinaoba da misi uSu-
alo xelSewyobiT iqmneba am dana-
Saulis gaxsnisTvis arsebiTi piro-
bebi, saqarTvelos mTavar proku-
rors ufleba aqvs, sasamarTlos
mimarTos SuamdgomlobiT msjavr-
debulis sasjelis gadaxedvis Ta-
obaze.
amave muxlis II nawilis mixed-
viT, Suamdgomlobis dakmayofile-
bis SemTxvevaSi sasamarTlo iRebs
Sesabamis gadawyvetilebas _ msjav-
rdebulis sasjelis vadis Semcire-
bis an sasjelis saxis Secvlis an
msjavrdebulis sasjelisagan sru-
lad gaTavisuflebis Taobaze.
amave muxlis III nawilis mixed-
viT, msjavrdebulis sasjelisagan
srulad gaTavisufleba dauSvebe-
lia am kodeqsis 144-1-e (wameba),
144-2-e (wamebis muqara) da 144-3-e
(damamcirebeli an araadamianuri
mopyroba) muxlebiT gaTvaliswine-
bul danaSaulTa saqmeebze.
* * *
_ sasjelis moxdasTan dakavSi-
rebiT fexmZime qalebs aqvT Tu ara
raime SeRavaTi?
_ aqvT.
_ ss kodeqsis 75-e muxlis I
nawilis mixedviT, sasamarTlos Se-
uZlia gadauvados sasjelis moxda
orsul qals, mSobiarobis Semdeg 1
wlamde.
amave muxlis II nawilis mixed-
viT, Tu msjavrdebuli uars ityvis
Svilze an Tavs aaridebs Svilis
aRzrdas mas Semdeg, rac
igi gaafrTxila probaciis
biurom, sasamarTlos SeuZ-
lia, am organos wardgine-
biT gaauqmos sasjelis
moxdis gadavadeba da msjav-
rdebuli sasjelis mosax-
delad gagzavnos ganaCeniT
daniSnul adgilas.
amave muxlis III nawi-
lis mixedviT, rodesac
Svili 1 wlis asaks miaR-
wevs, sasamarTlo gaTavi-
suflebul msjavrdebuls
sasjelis mouxdeli nawi-
lis moxdisagan an sasje-
lis mouxdel nawils Se-
ucvlis ufro msubuqi saxis sasje-
liT anda miiRebs gadawyvetilebas
msjavrdebulis sasjelis mouxde-
li nawilis mosaxdelad Sesabamis
dawesebulebaSi dabrunebis Sesaxeb.
amave muxlis IV nawilis mixed-
viT, Tu msjavrdebuli sasjelis
moxdis gadavadebis periodSi axal
danaSauls Caidens, sasamarTlo mas
dauniSnavs sasjels ganaCenTa er-
TobliobiT.
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C M Y K
astrologiuri
prognozi
verZi _ am kvirSi profesi-
onaluri winsvla geliT. ko-
nkretulad es SeiZleba iyos
axali samuSao adgili an gasamrje-
los momateba.
kuro _ mimdinare periodSi
moimatebs Tqveni momxibvle-
loba da Sarmi, es ki sawina-
aRmdego sqesi adamianebs Tqvendami
simpaTiiT ganawyobs.
tyupebi _ Tu Tqven gaTa-
visufldebiT gaorebisgan da
amasTan koncentraciasac mo-
axerxebT, SesaZloa seriozul warma-
tebebs miaRwioT.
kirCxibi _ kviris pirvel
naxevarSi mosalodnelia ga-
rkveuli problemebi gagi-
CndeT da es, ZiriTadad, dakavSire-
buli iqneba Tqvens emociur mdgoma-
reobasTan.
lomi _ moerideT marto
moqmedebas, TviT ideebsac ma-
rto nu dagegmavT. nebismier
saqmian urTierTobaSi uSualoba da
saqmisadmi profesiuli midgoma gamo-
avlineT.
qalwuli _ am periodSi
miiRebT metad saWiro info-
rmacias, romelic Tqvens ka-
rieras sasikeTod waadgeba, Tumca es
informacia praqtikulad unda gamo-
iyenoT.
saswori _ am kviraSi nu
gamoiCenT ambicurobas da sa-
kuTar Tavze nurc zedmet pa-
suxismgeblobas aiRebT.
morieli _ nebismier umni-
Svnelo wvrilmans seriozu-
lad miudeqiT, raTa uyura-
dRebobis gamo sabediswero Secdo-
mebi ar dauSvaT.
mSvildosani _ SesaZle-
belia, saqmiani urTierTobebi
droebiT damuxruWdes da
iZulebiT cvlilebebis gakeTebac mo-
giwioT. nu aboboqrdebiT da partni-
orebs nu daupirispirdebiT.
Txis rrqa _ iyaviT aqti-
uri, originaluri da nebi-
smier urTierTobebSi gu-
lwrfeloba gamoiCineT, radgan wina-
aRmdeg SemTxvevaSi Tqvens garSemo-
myofebs gauCndebaT survili TqvenTan
urTierToba gawyviton.
merwyuli _ am kviraSi
Tqveni yuradReba mTlianad
ojaxur problemebze gada-
erTveba. es ki samsaxurebriv saqmeebs
droebiT ukan gadaswevs.
Tevzebi _ mimdinare kvi-
raSi dasajdomad namdvilad
ver moicliT da mTel Tqvens
energias axal da amasTan, saintereso
ideebis ganxorcielebaze daxarjavT.
mmeeccnniieerreebbmmaa SSeeqqmmnneess qqaalliiss ssaaxxee __
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tais mTebSi aRmoCenili mumiis mixedviT Seiqmna. moskovis ge-
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gines qalis saxe.
altais religiuri macxovreblebi miiCneven, rom mecniereb-
ma daafrTxes sulebi mumiis motacebiT. maT gadakarges ,,alta-
is princesa~ kidini da Tu mumias kvlav Zvel adgilas ar da-
ubruneben, axali katastrofebia mosalodneli.
mmssoofflliiooss mmoossaaxxlleeoobbiiss 7700%% ssaaffrrTTxxiiss qqvveeSSaaaa
germaniis ekologiis ministri robert riotgeni acxadebs,
rom klimatis cvlilebebma SeiZleba mravalnairi saxis cvli-
lebebi SeiZleba
gamoiwvios mcena-
reebsa da cxove-
lebSi. adamiani,
miuxedavad Tana-
medrove ganviTare-
bisa, ver gaumk-
lavdeba garemomc-
vel samyaros da
im movlenebs, rac
SeiZleba ganviTar-
des. mas Semoutevs
veluri buneba.
ganviTarebuli
qveynebis 70% mTlianad garemomcvel samyaros mowyalebazea
damokidebuli. bunebrivi sakvebi adamianis racionis 90% Sead-
gens. tansacmeli, saTbobi, samkurnalo saSualebebi bunebis sa-
Cuqaria.
2100 wlisaTvis gaqreba cxovelTa da mcenareTa 30%, gaq-
roba Tanmimdevrulad gagrZeldeba adamianis ,,daxmarebiT~.
rrooggoorr ggaammooiiyyuurreebbiiaann uuccxxooppllaanneetteelleebbii
mecnierebi, astronomebi da biologebi cdiloben Seqmnan
zusti asli, rogor gamoiyurebian sxva planetebze macxovre-
beli arsebebi.
astrobiologi dirk Sliuze-makeSi vaSingtonis universite-
tidan amtkicebs, rom yinulis sqeli fenis qveS iupiteris Ta-
namgzavrze, SeiZleba arsebobdes rTuli piramidebis formis
nivTierebebi, romlebic savsea mikrobebiT, maTi sigrZe 1 mili-
metria.
sviten beneri floridis universitetis bioqimikosi amtki-
cebs, rom veneraze SeiZleba arsebobdes ramdenimeujrediani ar-
sebebi, romlebic mxolod garemomcvel samyaros eguebian.
saturnis Tanamgzavrze SesaZlebelia giganturi baqteriebi
arsebobdes. magram iq ganviTarebis procesebi Zalian nela mim-
dinareobs. da Sesabamisad, sicocxle Zalian nela viTardeba.
rac Seexeba evoluciis ufro maRalganviTarebul safexurs,
romlebTanac radiokavSiria Se-
saZlebeli, maTi garemoeba adamia-
nisas mxolod im SemTxvevaSi mi-
uaxlovdeba, Tu romelime plane-
taze, daaxloebiT, sicocxlis
iseTi pirobebi iqneba, rogoric
dedamiwazea, magram es, mecnierTa
mtkicebiT, gamoricxulia. astro-
biologebi irwmunebian, rom gan-
viTarebuli arsebebi, didi alba-
Tobaa, mtaceblebi iyvnen. miuxe-
davad amisa, maT iseTi organoebi
SeiZleba hqondeT, rom maTTan ra-
diosignalebiT dakavSireba SeiZ-
lebodes.
aaxxaallggaazzrrddoobbiiss eelleeqqssiirrii:: uussaaqqmmuurroobbaa,, RRvviinnoo ddaa nniioorrii
mecnieri-gerontol-
ogebi miiCneven, rom
dadga dro asaki sami
cifriT ganisazRvrebo-
des. ruseTSi mamakacTa
asaki 59, xolo qalebi-
sa _ 73-ia.
frangi gerontolo-
gebi irwmunebian, rom
safrangeTSi 10 000
xandazmulia, romelTa
asaki 100 welia.
40 wlis Semdeg 150
000 adamiani iqneba saf-
rangeTSi, romelTa asa-
ki 100 weliwads miaR-
wevs.
frangma Jana luiza kalmanma, romelic planetis didedad
iTvleba, 122 weliwadi da 164 dRe icocxla. jer es rekordi
kvlav ZalaSi rCeba. Jana luiza 11 weliwadi eweoda, uyvarda
Rvino da... niori.
moamzada ana vadaWkoriam
eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-
neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-
velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-
gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.
rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda
gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-
velno, erTad RvTisaken!
RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!
lluuiizzaa SSaakkiiaaSSvviillii:
_ vwyevli im dRes, misi
rom mjeroda da arCevnebSi
xma miveci. ise Sevcdi, rom
xalxs bodiSi movuxade da va-
Riare, rom aseT Secdomas
roca adamiani uSvebs, rogo-
ric me davuSvi saakaSvili-
sadmi rwmenis gamo, politi-
kaSi yofnis ufleba ar aqvs-
Tqo.
_ ra aris Secdoma, ro-
melsac arasdros apatiebT
saakaSvils?
_ saakaSvils Secdomebi ar dauSvia, saakaSvili qvey-
nis moRalatea.
2010.04.30 , “jorjian taimsi”, amonaridi
`saerTo gazeTis~ redaqcia Rrma mwu-
xarebas gamoTqvams
lluuiizzaa SSaakkiiaaSSvviilliiss
gardacvalebis gamo da samZimars ucx-
adebs gansvenebulis ojaxs.
amave nomris skanvordis pasuxebi:1.layboba. 2. sanorini. 3. luJniki. 4. yara-
yumi. 5. orZeli. 6. bred. 7. yvirila. 8. yviTri.
9. sfinqsi. 10. bondi. 11. colikauri. 12. indi-
umi. 13. ufici. 14. uvertiura. 15. daTvi. 16. yi-
nuli. 17. tyupebi. 18. traseka. 19. sartyeli.
20. Cikago. 21. akademia. 22. Worikana. 23.
locia. 24. kapelo. 25. roki. 26. mada. 27. ka-
lami. 28. kenti. 29. anaga. 30. uniWo. 31. Jave-
ri. 32. nacisti. 33. ZilquSi. 34. actekebi. 35.
facacia. 36. kera. 37. darejani. 38. liZava. 39.
makrine. 40. muslimani 41. stiqia. 42. verSoki.
43. Soki. 44. etaJeri. 45. araukaria. 46. endos-
kopi. 47. fiWvi. 48. kebi. 49. ifani. 50. kani. 51.
xinji. 52. barnovi. 53. mirkani. 54. kadafi. 55.
retuSori. 56. fiqri. 57. dakroni. 58. presli.
59. nemsa. 60. sicxe. 61. beci. 62. iaxta. 63.
sitroeni. 64. sentavo. 65. siko. 66. vela. 67.
evropa. 68. taleri. 69. Tamarindi. 70. niki.
skanvordi
1.prognozi. 2. nakveTi. 3. pomada. 4. kreta.
5. epikosi. 6. olqi. 7. makagoni. 8. tokio. 9.
Talxi. 10. orSimo. 11. mnaTe. 12. kamzoli. 12a.
squri. 13. meg. 14. dani. 15. mkvircxli. 16. urug-
vai. 17. valiza. 18. kirxe. 19. duSmani. 20. ra-
yifi. 21. cito. 22. xardani. 23. Sumerebi. 24.
iusticia. 25. balatoni. 26. jezve. 27. raul.
28. lixi. 29. patisoni. 30. georgini. 31. abor-
tmaxeri. 32. Stefan. 33. aJuri. 34. Skolniki.
35. taisoni. 36. Janri. 37. driblingi. 38. Cili.
39. celibati. 40. finali. 41. gorda. 42. cimo-
ri. 43. nargile. 44. rukzaki. 44a. kuranti. 45.
sarWi. 46. krini. 47.logani. 48. ogonioki. 49.
pasadena. 50. gonorea. 51. paata. 52. brineri. 53.
askili. 54. maraToni. 55. gogita. 56. bigamia. 57.
kaka. 58. gvadi. 59. vangogi. 60. kako. 61. beni.
62. pol. 63. midamo. 64. marodiori. 65. kobe.
66. diori. 67. diplomati.
krosvordi
Sveulad: 1. kaveuloba. 2. daltoniki. 3.
lekverTxi. 4. odri. 5. xaSmi. 6. hegemonia. 7.
saloniki. 11. magistrati. 14. vesteli. 15. rea-
nimacia. 16. naiarevi. 17. anjelina. 19. nereide-
bi. 20. fabrikanti. 22. qirqili. 27. lesi. 28.
enio. 29. bja.
Tarazulad: 6. hasi. 8. gadalendia. 9. Sa-
gali. 10. kentavri. 11. miCmani. 12. planireba.
13. gernika. 14. varinia. 18. sinai. 21. saaTi. 22.
qva. 23. adenauri. 24. lomberi. 25. indeqsi.
26. rcxila. 28. embolia. 30. jvarosani. 31.
oficeri.