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Joint City Council/CDA Meeting October 18, 2011
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A COPY OF THE AGENDA WITH THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL IS
AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY
NOTICE AND AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF CORONADO
CITY COUNCIL/COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY Coronado City Hall
1825 Strand Way CORONADO, CALIFORNIA
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3 p.m.
NOTE: CDA items are denoted by an *.
1. ROLL CALL.
2. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
*3. MINUTES OF CITY COUNCIL/COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETINGS: Approval of the minutes of the Regular meeting of September 20, the
Special meeting of September 26 and the Regular meeting of October 4, 2011.
4. CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS:
a. Proclamation: Coronado Lions Club White Cane Days. (Pg 1)
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Joint City Council/CDA Meeting October 18, 2011
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5. CONSENT CALENDAR: All items listed under this section are considered to be routine
and will be acted upon with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items
unless a member of the City Council or the public so requests, in which event, the item will be
considered separately in its normal sequence.
a. Approval of Reading by Title and Waiver of Reading In Full of Ordinances on
this Agenda. (Pg 5)
Recommendation: Approve the reading by title and waive the reading in
full of all Ordinances on the agenda.
*b. Review and Approve that the Warrants, as Certified by the City/Agency
Treasurer, are all Correct, Just, and Conform to the Approved Budget for FY
2011-2012. (Pg 7)
Recommendation: Approve the Warrants as certified by the City/Agency
Treasurer.
c. Second Reading for Adoption of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of
Coronado, California, Amending Chapter 84.10 Regarding Historic Resource
Code and Chapter 84.20 Regarding Historic Resource Alteration and Demolition
Permits. (Pg 65)
Recommendation: Adopt “An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of
Coronado, California, amending Chapter 84.10 regarding Historic Resource
Code and Chapter 84.20 regarding Historic Alteration and Demolition
Permits” and direct the City Clerk to read the title of the ordinance and
publish the ordinance in accordance with the law.
d. Acceptance of the 2009 Street Light Replacement Project and Direction to the
City Clerk to File a Notice of Completion. (Pg 81)
Recommendation: Accept the 2009 Street Light Replacement project and
direct the City Clerk to file a Notice of Completion.
e. Acceptance of the Pool Umbrella Project and Direction to the City Clerk to File a
Notice of Completion. (Pg 83)
Recommendation: Accept the Pool Umbrella project and direct the City
Clerk to file a Notice of Completion.
f. Adoption of Resolutions Documenting the Modification to Employer Paid
Member Contributions for the Coronado Police Officers’ Association, Executive,
and Self-Represented Staff. (Pg 85)
Recommendation: Adopt resolutions titled, “Resolution for Paying and
Reporting the Value of Employer Paid Member Contributions,” “Resolution
for Employer Paid Member Contributions,” and “Resolution to Tax Defer
Member Paid Contributions – IRC 414(H)(2) Employer Pick-Up.”
6. COMMUNICATIONS - ORAL: Each person wishing to speak before the City Council
on any matter shall approach the City Council, give their name, and limit their presentation to 3
minutes. State law generally precludes the City Council from discussing or acting upon any topic
initially presented during oral communication. (ORAL COMMUNICATIONS WILL BE
LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES; ANY FURTHER COMMUNICATIONS WILL BE
HEARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING ADJOURNMENT)
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7. CITY MANAGER/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR:
a. Update on Council Directed Actions and Citizen Inquiries. (Informational Item)
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS: None.
9. ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS: None.
10. COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS: (Questions allowed but no discussion
or action.)
a. Report from the Port Commissioner Concerning Port Activities.
11. CITY COUNCIL/COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY BUSINESS:
a. Council Reports on Inter-Agency Committee and Board Assignments. (Questions
allowed to clarify, but no responses, discussion or action.)
b. Consideration of Reappointment of Two Incumbents to the Street Tree
Committee. (Pg 95)
Recommendation: Reappoint Shannon Player and Marvin Heinze to the
Street Tree Committee.
c. Approval of the Major Special Events Calendar for the Year 2012 and Adoption
of a Resolution Approving Those Major Special Events in Excess of Eight Events.
(Pg 97)
Recommendation: Approve four (4) traditional events; approve six (6) non-
traditional, previously approved events; consider two (2) new requests and
deny due to lack of local benefit; and adopt “A Resolution of the City
Council of the City of Coronado, California Approving those Major Special
Events for Calendar Year 2012 in Excess of Eight Events.”
d. Direction to Staff on the Design of Landscaping Improvements and Traffic
Calming Measures In and Around the Toll Plaza. (Pg 137)
Recommendation: Direct staff to present the conceptual design to the Design
Review and Transportation Commissions to obtain their recommendations
regarding the design and return to the Council to summarize comments
received and provide a staff recommendation regarding what the ultimate
improvements should look like.
12. CITY ATTORNEY: No report.
13. COMMUNICATIONS - WRITTEN:
a. Consideration of Request from Councilmember Denny to Enhance Public Safety
and Traffic Safety, Direct City Staff to Open a Dialogue with Caltrans Concerning
a Slow-Down Zone of 45 MPH on State Route 75 Around the Entrance of the
Coronado Cays, from the South End of the Cays to the Entrance, and Report Back
to the Coronado Cays Homeowners Association (CCHOA) Board. (Pg 145)
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14. CLOSED SESSION:
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – EXISTING LITIGATION
AUTHORITY: Government Code Section 54956.9(a)
NAMES OF CASES:
1. William and Heidi Dickerson v. City of Coronado
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2010-00096011-CU-CO-CTL
2. Maverick Campbell v. City of Coronado
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2010-00101725-CU-WT-CTL
3. City of Coronado v. Lorre St. Germain
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2008-00084467-CU-MC-CTL
4. City of Coronado v. Brian Cowan
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2011-00093956-CU-OR-CTL
5. Bryan v. MacPherson
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2011-00086449-CU-PO-CTL
6. Stein v. City of Coronado, et al.
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2011-00097925-CU-PO-CTL
b. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION
AUTHORITY: Government Code Section 54956.9 (b)(3)(E)
One (1) Potential case.
Facts and circumstances:
On August 4, 2010, the City of San Diego filed a claim for damages against the
City of Coronado alleging that the City of Coronado has introduced effluent into
City of San Diego sewer mains with extremely high levels of hydrogen sulfide gas
damaging the cast iron waste system in a high-rise condominium complex known
as “The Grand South.”
15. ADJOURNMENT
Materials related to an item on this Agenda submitted to the Council after distribution of
the agenda packet are available for public inspection in the City Clerk’s Office at 1825
Strand Way during normal business hours.
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Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Page 477
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MINUTES OF A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COUNCIL/COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
OF THE
CITY OF CORONADO Coronado City Hall
1825 Strand Way
Coronado, CA 92118
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
Mayor Tanaka called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
1. ROLL CALL:
Present: Councilmembers/Agency Members Denny, Downey, Ovrom,
Woiwode and Mayor Tanaka
Absent: None
Also Present: City Manager/Agency Executive Director Blair King
Deputy City Attorney/Agency Counsel Johanna Canlas
City Clerk/Agency Secretary Linda Hascup
2. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. Floyd Ross provided the
invocation and Mayor Tanaka led the Pledge of Allegiance.
3. MINUTES: Approval of the minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 20, 2011,
and the Special Meeting of September 26, 2011.
MSUC (Woiwode/Downey) moved to continue the approval of the minutes.
AYES: Denny, Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
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4. CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS:
4a. Proclamation: Walk and Bike to School Day and Rideshare Week 2011. Mayor Tanaka presented the proclamation to Dan Martin, Project Implementation Manager for
SANDAG‟s icommute program.
Councilmember Downey added that the largest employer in the City of Coronado, the United
States Navy, routinely wins an award every year in the ride share program because of the efforts
that are done through the iCommute program. She thanked Mr. Martin and SANDAG for their
efforts to try to find ways around the use of single occupancy vehicles.
5. CONSENT CALENDAR: The City Council approved, adopted and/or accepted as one
item of business Consent Agenda Items 5a through 5g with the exception of Item 5c.
Councilmember Woiwode suggested the addition of Items 11d and 11e.
Councilmember Denny requested that Items 11d and 11e be considered in their normal sequence.
She will be voting no on Item 5c and will abstain from one check on item 5b, #10086506, dated
9/22/11 for $120 for business cards for herself. Her abstention is in keeping with good
professional form in terms of Council member policy.
Councilmember Downey requested that Item 5c be removed from Consent with an apology to
her fellow Council members. She commented that the folks on Third and Fourth Street have
been looking for congestion relief for years and she feels that if someone is going to vote no on
this project she thinks those residents have the right to understand why.
MSUC (Woiwode/Downey) moved that the City Council approve the Consent
Calendar Items 5a through 5g with the exception of Item 5c.
AYES: Denny, Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: Denny, as described for Item 5b
ABSENT: None
5a. Approval of Reading by Title and Waiver of Reading in Full of Ordinances
on this Agenda. The City Council waived the reading of the full text and approved the
reading of the title only.
5b. Review and Approval that the Warrants, as Certified by the City/Agency
Treasurer, are all Correct and Just, and Conform to the Approved Budgets for FY 2010-
2011 and FY 2011-2012. The City Council ratified payment of warrants Nos. 10086399 thru
10086606 audited and approved by the Audit Committee, provided there are sufficient funds on
hand. The City Council approved that the warrants are correct and just and conform to
the approved budgets for the Fiscal Year 2010-2011 and Fiscal Year 2011-2012.
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5c. Authorization to Advertise the State Routes 75/282 Congestion Relief and
Corridor Enhancement Bulb-outs Project for Bid. City Manager Blair King gave
background information on this item.
Councilmember Downey asked staff about how long ago it was that the City started talking
about doing bulb outs along Third and Fourth Streets and where did the idea come from.
Ed Walton, Director of Engineering and Project Development, responded by saying that it was
several years ago and that it came from a group of residents in the Third and Fourth Street area
that was meeting to bring forth ideas on how to address their traffic concerns and how to help
mitigate traffic. This was one of the ideas. This Congestion Relief Working Group also
included members from SANDAG, Caltrans, and the City of San Diego. Mr. Walton added that
the scope of the work on this project had been reduced from doing bulb outs on several other
locations in addition to the Third and Fourth Street areas, primarily because of the drainage
concerns around the bulb outs.
Ms. Downey believes that it Caltrans would not let the City install the bulb outs that would make
it easier for pedestrians to cross unless the City also addressed the drainage issues in certain
intersections. Mr. Walton concurred. Ms. Downey understands the staff recommendation is to
finally go out to bid to do the approved bulb outs at certain locations.
Mr. Walton explained that the locations are at three intersections; Third Street at F Avenue,
Third Street at H Avenue, and Fourth Street at B Avenue.
Ms. Downey added that the group working on this was trying to address any impacts from
removal of the tolls. She explained that when the tolls were removed there were funds set aside
for Coronado to use to address issues from the removal of the tolls.
Mr. Walton agreed that is what initiated this and that there is money identified in the CIP budget
for this project.
Ms. Downey further explained that when the bridge tolls were removed there was an agreement
between SANDAG and Coronado that there was money set aside to address traffic concerns
from the removal of tolls. This project has long been one of those projects that these funds were
anticipated to be used for.
MSC (Downey/Ovrom) moved that the City Council authorize staff to
advertise the project for bid.
Councilmember Denny stated that she is on record as saying that using those tolls for things such
as bulb outs or to improve the drainage at Sixth Street and Orange Avenue, as it has been used, is
not the highest and best use. She receives both telephone and written communications from
residents that live in that corridor and they are not at all in favor of the bulb outs as at one time
MTS and Caltrans and whatever group of people might have been in the past. She doesn‟t
believe that we have a good feel for the number of citizen‟s that were involved in the past, but
she does because she has been doing her research and she still walks door to door in that area and
hears that the bulb outs are not very popular and not a good use of funds. What the people want
with the toll money is to spend it on things like noise reduction and to help those people such as
the citizen whose home was crashed into by a vehicle, or for things like barriers and double
paned windows assistance – things like that would be what the citizens in the corridor tell her
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they are very interested in. She spends a lot of time figuring out what their needs are there. She
doesn‟t know what their needs were a long time ago or how we are interpreting those needs now,
but that is what she finds. The other thing is the timing. It is really strange because Caltrans
really hasn‟t approved this yet. It says in the staff report that the City is expecting approval from
Caltrans for a limited number of bulb outs. She knows we aren‟t starting the tunnel audit yet
because we don‟t have the final letter yet from Federal Highways, so she doesn‟t think we really
need to start the process on the bulb outs until we have the final letter from Caltrans.
Ms. Downey explained that the citizens who wanted bulb outs did not just want to address the
fact that there was a lot of noise in their homes and wanted better windows or other noise
reducing solutions. They had concerns about safety when crossing the busiest streets in
Coronado. The way bulb outs work is that they extend the amount of time that someone can be
standing in a safe location and shorten the distance one has to cross. One of the anticipated bulb
outs is in a Safe Routes to School area. This is an attempt to make it easier for those people who
live on the other side of Third and Fourth Streets to get across into the Village. There may be
other ways that the City could use the set aside money to assist the residents that live along Third
and Fourth Streets but she has had the experience of being a homeowner in the Third and Fourth
Street corridor and having her children cross every day when they went to school. She has heard
from all of the neighbors, including the person who chaired the citizen committee for those many
years and the others who have been involved. They have requested that the City finish this. It is
being honest to do what we told our citizens we would do. The reason we are doing a limited
number now is because it is all that Caltrans has agreed to during the discussions that have taken
place with them.
Councilmember Woiwode pointed out that in the Bike Master Plan there are some crossing
signals proposed on Third and Fourth Streets that are pedestrian activated called HAWKS. The
committee wanted to make sure that they are compatible with bulb outs because they anticipated
bulb outs to be part of the solution.
Ms. Denny thinks that the idea of helping pedestrians cross in that area is excellent. She just
wants to make sure everybody understands that, in terms of transportation policy, bulb outs are
not the be all and end all and are quite controversial as to whether they, in fact, actually do what
people think that they do. She thinks there are better solutions. She doesn‟t want to restate what
she has already said other than that she does not think it is the highest and best use of the funding
and the citizens that contact her don‟t want the bulb outs. She would be really interested to know
how many citizens is still pro bulb out in Ms. Downey‟s experience because she doesn‟t have
any.
AYES: Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: Denny
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
5d. Second Reading for Adoption of “An Ordinance of the City Council of the
City of Coronado, California, Amending Subsection 86.10.050A of the Coronado Municipal
Code Regarding the Required Rear Yard in the R-1B Single Family Residential Zone.”
The City Council adopted AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF CORONADO, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING SUBSECTION 86.10.050A OF THE
CORONADO MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING THE REQUIRED REAR YARD IN
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THE R-1B SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE. The Ordinance, having been
placed on First Reading on September 20, 2011, was read by Title, the reading in its
entirety unanimously waived and adopted by Council as ORDINANCE NO. 2028.
5e. Authorization to Implement a Reorganization of Fire Department Command
Staff and Adoption of a Resolution Amending the Personnel Authorization and
Compensation Plan Changing the Classification of Division Chief to Battalion Chief. The
City Council approved the changes for Fire Department Command Staff and adopted A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CORONADO AMENDING
THE PERSONNEL AUTHORIZATION AND COMPENSATION PLAN FOR FY 2011-12
TO REPLACE THE CLASSIFICATION OF FIRE DIVISION CHIEF WITH THE
CLASSICATION OF FIRE BATTALION CHIEF. The Resolution was read by Title, the
reading in its entirety unanimously waived and adopted by Council as RESOLUTION NO.
8506.
5f. Authorization to Temporarily Exceed Maximum Authorized Personnel in
Police Services and Fire Services. The City Council authorized Police and Fire Services
Departments to temporarily increase the number of authorized positions. The approved
temporary over-staffing will be reduced back to regular levels through attrition.
5g. Approval and Acceptance of the Terrazzo Restoration Project and Direction
to the City Clerk to File a Notice of Completion. The City Council accepted the Terrazzo
Restoration project and directed the City Clerk to file a Notice of Completion.
6. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
a. Claudia Valenzuela, SDG&E, provided an update on the power outage from September
8th
. The power went out across SDG&E‟s 4,100 sq. mi. electrical system, affecting 1.4
million customers in San Diego County and southern Orange County. In addition to their
customers, millions of people in Arizona, Imperial County, and Baja Norte lost power. The
incident was the first system-wide black out in the utility‟s history. Fortunately, the system
sustained no significant structural damage and SDG&E began returning power to their
customers within 4 to 5 hours of the outage and restored service to all customers in less than
12 hours, much more quickly than expected. Now the focus shifts to what triggered the
blackout and how to prevent a similar event in the future. It is too early to speculate on any
details beyond the initial Arizona event. State and Federal regulators will take many months
to complete their analysis which will involve all impacted utilities. This unprecedented event
reminds us that the emergency preparation before these types of situations is critical.
Throughout the years SDG&E emergency response personnel train quarterly to prepare
different emergency scenarios that may occur within our territory, including earthquakes,
fires, load curtailments, and other emergencies. Based on this diligent preparation SDG&E
was able to activate the emergency operations center within minutes of the outage occurring.
SDG&E collaborated with the County Office of Emergency Service and countless city and
county officials to coordinate restoration efforts. She personally communicated with Chief
Blood on Coronado issues and kept him updated via phone calls and texts. The ongoing
communication with the City and County emergency response personnel throughout the
region was key in effectively communicating safety messages to customers during the
outage. Their customers were significant contributors to the speed of power restoration,
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responding to requests for conservation by turning off all non essential electric devices,
including air conditioners. This positive public response was based largely on the City‟s
efforts and support which helped them communicate with the businesses and residents of
Coronado. As they look forward to the future for their ongoing emergency preparedness and
planning, SDG&E welcomes the opportunity to continue to collaborate with the City of
Coronado‟s leaders and residents to improve the region‟s energy preparedness.
b. Jackie Wennan spoke on Item 11b. She has high hopes that the 20 or so historic
properties that have been on that Mills Act list for years will be grandfathered under the
terms of the existing Mills Act agreements. If the terms do change they should effect new
people on the list.
c. Andrea Webster, Executive Director, Coronado SAFE, announced that SAFE is on
track for the goals that they set at the beginning of the year. They had a tremendously
productive summer that allowed them to reorganize, revamp and relaunch the new Coroando
SAFE by the start of our schools‟ year. All of the newly improved programs and services are
up and running, including the newest, the Parent Advisory Council and the Napolitano
Family SAFE Ambassador welcoming committee. To this point SAFE continues to garner
diverse community support from many sectors of the community and they are grateful to
have received full program sponsorship for fourteen of their very influential programs. Since
the last time she was before the City Council, SAFE has succeeded in moving from a
problem focused substance prevention organization to a solution focused, skill building
enrichment organization. In line with this change she is thrilled to present that SAFE has a
very special guest joining them in this next week. She is not sure how many people are
familiar with Sean Covey but he is a wonderful, international bestselling author. His father,
Stephen Covey, started the “Seven Habits” collection and swept the nation with his work
over 20 years ago. His son followed up with his work and has now oversold his father. He is
a wonderful addition to the teens in Coronado. His work gives our teenagers some real
concrete skills that they can use for themselves. This keynote speaker will be in Coronado
on October 11th
from 7 to 8:30 pm. People at home can logon to www.coronadosafe.org to
reserve their free tickets on line. There will be a book signing from 5 to 6:30 in front of the
CoSA Theater and Bay Books will be there to sell books on site. There will also be several
seminar series devoted to building these particular habits in teens to help them succeed in life
and the world around them.
d. Steve Bruce, introduced himself as a leading expert on human starvation and
malnutrition, and listed the benefits that will come from completely ending human starvation
and malnutrition. He has a plan for this that is explained at the website www.thecount.org.
e. Councilmember Denny commented that the September 8 power outage was a wakeup call
for emergency preparedness. She urged members of the public to sign up for CERT training
by calling the Fire Department at 522-7374. The training is listed in the Fall 2011 Coronado
Adult Education ROP booklet. The CERO group was instrumental in keeping
communications open during the power outage. People who are interested in participating
can learn more at www.ceroinc.org or by contacting Ms. Denny. She also reported that the
Cays Homeowners Association voted unanimously on September 27 to request that the City
of Coronado assist them by opening a dialogue with Caltrans for a zone of slower vehicle
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speed around the entrance to the Cays. She will be introducing an agenda item for the
October 18 Council meeting for the Council to decide if it wants to assist the Cays in this
request. Her next Speak Out Coronado meetings will be held in the Winn Room of the
Library on Monday, November 14 from 5 to 6 pm and then on Wednesday, December 14
from 5:30 to 6:30 pm.
f. Councilmember Downey mentioned that the EIR for the 2050 Regional Transportation
Plan was discussed at the most recent SANDAG meeting. The Attorney General sent a letter
to SANDAG stating that they have addressed all the issues but the AG, citing a study that
suggests there should be more in depth analysis of how large projects will affect social
justice issues. She was unaware there was any new criteria that they should have been
applying, suggested that SANDAG might have done more and used different criteria to
address the affect of transportation on communities at risk. SANDAG applied the existing
criteria. She went online to read the study cited by the Attorney General and found that it
specifically says it is not to be used for regulatory purposes because more work needs to be
done and criteria developed. She advised SANDAG that it had done its job, although it is
always advisable to do as much work as possible to ensure that projects aren‟t going to affect
any communities differently, specifically those at risk. Although she is not recommending
that Coronado send its own individual letter, several of the mayors who were at the meeting
have asked her to forward the information she provided to SANDAG so that their cities can
put out letters. SANDAG is sending a response similar to what she suggested, to state that it
has done its job and that when the State changes its rules then SANDAG will use those rules
to properly analyze the issue. Until such time there is no obligation to do so.
7. CITY MANAGER/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR:
7a. Update on Council Direction Actions and Citizen Inquiries. City Manager
Blair King provided a post-incident report to the City Council. During the blackout period, the
following incidents occurred and the City provided the following:
Four elevator rescues
Six medical aid calls
Responded to three ringing alarms
Eight security checks
Four disturbance calls
Delivered oxygen to two residents who required it
Had 13 traffic lighter responses
Three suspicious persons calls
Three theft calls
Two requests to check on someone‟s welfare
Responded to two suicide calls
Provided service to nine critical pump stations which prevented the City from having any
sewer spills into the Bay and no reportable incidents.
Provided 50 temporary stop signs and deployed those throughout the City to back up the
signalized intersections
Responded by fueling all emergency service vehicles during the time
Provided dinner for 144 participants of a tournament although the kitchen was black
Had one wedding with approximately 80 people in attendance
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Provided service to the Coronado Community Hospital during the course of the blackout.
Provided 48 tweets during the course of the blackouts plus one city wide alert via the
Alert San Diego
Turned off or converted all of the City‟s information technology and closed it down
during the blackout.
It is estimated that the marginal additional cost in responding to the blackout was approximately
$16,000. That was not the entire cost, but the cost would have been much higher if the City
would not have been as well prepared to respond as it was. This was accomplished by having
pumps and generators ready to go, having equipment that was ready to be dispatched, having
personnel on. In terms of first responders, defined in this case as police, fire, and public services,
there were about 70 people responding throughout the City. Staff first prepared for a 24 hour
incident in two operational periods. If the City had gone to the second operational period the
costs would have easily doubled. An after action review is included in the Council agenda
packet. The feeling is that the City responded very well. There were some hard shut downs of
computer equipment and some equipment was damaged but all of it was under warranty so there
was no actual cost. Staff thanks the Council for increasing the staffing allocation for IT
personnel. The additional staff person was not on board yet but for future emergency situations
will be very helpful. Overall, he feels that the Council can be confident that the City responded
to this incident well.
Mr. King introduced the budget brief document prepared by staff, which is a simple document to
explain the highlights of the fiscal 2011/2012 budget in a format that will help the public
understand how the municipal corporation runs, how it operates, and what the services are that
the City Council is providing. An example of the kind of information contained in the document
is the fact that out the amount retains by the City from a $221 speeding ticket is only $8.75.
Councilmember Downey said that one of the questions she received during the blackout was
about the one traffic signal that remained on. She believes it was on the same circuit as the Fire
Department and presumes that the Fire Department has backup generators.
Mr. King explained that the signal lights, with the exception of the signal at First and Orange, are
owned by Caltrans. All of the signals have battery backup units, which, along with the light
emitting diodes, in theory, allow the signal to operate for approximately two hours at all three
phases before going to default flashing red for a period of time. It appears that, with the
exception of two signals, they worked. Those two signals, even though they had battery backup
units, had problems. Because staff thought there was going to be a longer operational period
they positioned temporary stop signs to prepare for the battery backup units to run out of power
and the signals to go dark.
Councilmember Ovrom suggested to the public that they read this after action report. The report
was very well done and he thinks the Manager did a very fine job of trying to identify not only
what the positives were but also what some things are that need to be improved. He had
immediately texted the Manager about hospital and sewer and received a text back that both
were okay. He couldn‟t help thinking one step further about what would happen in an
earthquake, if either the water and/or sewer lines were severed and whether there is enough
public services equipment to handle some of that. You simply can‟t have enough to do
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everything. Mr. Ovrom asked the City Manager to look into those issues, particularly in the way
of generators and pumps. He added that when he was at the League of California Cities annual
meeting he learned of a piece of equipment that was designed for the Marines that converts
sewer water to drinking water at the rate of about 3,000 gallons per hour. This piece of
equipment is smaller than a reference desk. He suggested that the City look into this or
something that might work on salt water. That way if the water lines ever do have a problem
here will be a backup. Mr. Ovrom asked Mr. King to if the City could get together with the
Coronado Unified School District and look at scenarios with them – one with students and one
without. He suggested that there should be some written procedures in the EOC on this.
Councilmember Denny agrees with Mr. Ovrom. She encourages the public to read pages 109 to
118 of the agenda where they will find the City Manager‟s report which also includes an after
action staff review. She really appreciates the level of detail in the report. She commented that
as the financial cost of the power outage in Coronado was about $16,000 and the City was lucky
that this happened on a Thursday when the City was well staffed. She questioned where that
money would come from.
Mr. King explained that all of the costs will be absorbed within the department budgets where
the costs were incurred. The City budgets for overtime for departments such as Police and
Public Services. The majority of the cost was from incidental overtime.
Ms. Denny said that the City was lucky in terms of weather and circumstances, which is one of
the reasons she has already gone on record saying that the small amount of $1 million that the
City Council agreed by a vote of 4-1 to put towards emergency response really seems so
insignificant. Perhaps the Council might find, in the future, that they might want to revisit that
and boost that figure up. The funds seem to be available and we really cannot rely upon the
federal government or the state government or anyone else to come in and help us.
Mayor Tanaka thinks that the remaining four Council members would point out that they set
aside $19 million in emergency funds and that is money that can‟t be used unless the City takes a
separate vote to unencumber it. The four would disagree with Ms. Denny‟s analysis.
Councilmember Woiwode congratulated the department heads. It is gratifying to see this report
and to see how wonderfully City staff responded. The same qualities that caused the City to do
so well in the citizen satisfaction survey are those that caused the City to meet the challenge of
this emergency.
Councilmember Downey offered kudos to City staff as well as to SDG&E staff. She pointed out
that there is an opportunity to put in a claim for expenses other than overtime. She is not
suggesting that be done but raised it as an option. In an emergency, should something happen,
there are opportunities to recoup some of the expenses incurred.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
8a. Public Hearing: Adoption by Resolution of Historic Designation Criteria
Guidelines and First Reading for Introduction of an Ordinance Amending Chapter 84.10
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Regarding the Historic Resource Code and Chapter 84.20 Regarding Historic Resource
Alteration and Demolition Permits (HP 2011-02 City of Coronado). Tricia Olsen, Associate
Planner, provided the staff report.
Councilmember Denny asked about the change on page 163 of the agenda, under 84.10.040A.3.
She asked Ms. Olsen to explain the change for the public as it doesn‟t seem to her that it has a
big impact. It is just that the application for historic resource designation no longer goes through
the HRC but now through the City of Coronado Community Development Department.
Ms. Olsen read the section and clarified that this change was just to make it consistent
throughout the code. On some places it said on forms prescribed by the HRC and in other places
it said provided by the City of Coronado Community Development Department. Staff felt that
the forms are obviously provided by the Community Development Department and if staff
needed to make small changes to the applications they would need to be brought to the HRC
each time. That was just to be consistent throughout the code on where those application forms
are available.
Councilmember Downey wanted to talk about being eligible to be listed on the California
Register and the National Register. The most recent one that we‟ve all talked about and gone
through was the rush job to try to get 1010 Glorietta determined to be historic. It was sent up by
SOHO to California. California didn‟t put it on the California Register. What they did, because
they knew under CEQA that the only way to stop it from being destroyed was to get it eligible
for the National Register so that is what it did. A decision will be made some day in our lifetime
that it is or is not eligible but if it is not eligible it was not put on the California Register and it
was not at that time eligible to be on the Coronado register or at least that the City didn‟t put it
on. At that point, if it is turned down by the National it is not historic by any recognized
standard.
Ms. Olsen stated that if the National Register does not list the property than it is not listed or
determined eligible on the California Register.
Ms. Downey concluded that it would then not be listed anywhere unless Coronado were then to
list it on the City‟s at a later date.
Ms. Denny understands from speaking with historic preservation professionals is that when the
State refers it to National for review, people in the historic preservation field consider that almost
a presumption of historicity. Would Ms. Olsen agree with that statement?
Ms. Olsen responded that in her conversation with the staff person at the State level it was
explained that if the resource is turned down by the National Register, they do not list it or have
it be determined eligible for the State register. His response to that question was that the State
does not consider it historic at that point.
Ms. Denny further asked for clarification that right now there would be a presumption of
historicity or they wouldn‟t have recommended it to the National Register.
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Ms. Olsen agreed that they recommended it to the National Register. She spoke with Jay Correa
at the State office.
Mayor Tanaka opened the public hearing.
Bruce Coons, Executive Director of Save Our Heritage Organization, San Diego, commented
that SOHO is generally in support of the changes that are proposed. He has four items that he
wanted to talk about. The first one is whether it triggers the alterations/demo program. There
should just be one word changed. It should have “designated interiors”, too. There are hardly
any in Coronado but there is one at the Hotel Del and there was a problem in the past that the
City Manager stepped in and was very efficient at making sure it didn‟t get painted white which
is what was going to happen. There is more and more happening in San Diego where property
owners are asking for significant interiors. He is not saying non designated interiors, but an
alteration or demo of a significant designated interior should trigger the process.
Ms. Downey commented that in order to do that the City would have to be designating interiors.
None of our criteria talks about the interior of a structure. How does one get there from here?
Mr. Coons thinks that interiors should be added and went on to say that there is nothing in the
City‟s criteria that doesn‟t say the City can designate an interior either. The City actually can
already. Plus the City already has these other levels such as a national historic landmark with a
designated interior. It certainly should trigger the City‟s ordinance if someone is going to
damage that. That is all SOHO is asking. It isn‟t a big change but it is something that should be
a trigger. Also, for the demo permit they were removing the requirement for them to submit site
plan photographs and the reason for demo. He doesn‟t understand why we aren‟t asking for that
anymore. It is in the strikeout. The City should and it should be put on the City‟s website, too,
so that people can understand what is going to happen. First it is a question of why we are doing
that and second it is a request that probably further that should be made more available to the
public than it currently is. SOHO supports the 50 year threshold to be more consistent. He
believes Coronado is the only city that is 75. He doesn‟t think that would affect much and it
wouldn‟t lead to the designation of the Country Club or those other areas. There are probably
only three resources past ‟41 SOHO considers, one of which is 1010 Glorietta. Two or more
criteria should be looked at in the future to be more consistent with other jurisdictions and the
National Register to go down to one and compress the number of criteria that are available for
designation at the same time.
Ms. Denny referred to page 162 of the agenda packet when it talks about the definition of an
historic resource and it says that it is an object, a building, a structure, a site and crossed out are
the words “landmark area or place.” She asked Mr. Coons if that is something he would agree
with.
Mr. Coons responded that the City should probably include cultural landscapes which could
include parks or anything that has been changed by human activity. All other ordinances include
cultural landscapes.
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Ms. Denny referred to page 163, letter E, which talks about historic resources. “It has been listed
on or formally determined eligible for the California Register.” And then it is crossed out,
“meets the State program of landmarks” and so forth. Does Mr. Coons agree with that?
Mr. Coons has reviewed that and feels that it is fine for that criterion. He referred to a different
question from Ms. Downey that there is a threshold for what triggers an EIR and is different if it
is alleged to be eligible for the California Register by the HRC or SOHO or an historic group
then it triggers the environmental process. In the end it would have to be determined eligible or
formally listed so there are two different thresholds there.
Ms. Denny referred to page 168, under definitions; it says what an alteration is. It says that it
means an addition, relocation, demolition, or any change affecting the exterior visual qualities of
an historic resource, including but not limited to, architectural features, visual characteristics,
design and materials, excluding routine maintenance. There are some removals as well: „means
any exterior addition, relocation, demolition of an historic resource‟. Is that something Mr.
Coons would agree with?
Mr. Coons thinks this would cover the issues that have existed recently such as demolition of
trellises and other things. He thinks that language is appropriate.
Dave Gillingham, Coronado resident, commented that he emailed each City Council member and
received replies from most of them but was unable to reach Mr. Ovrom as his mailbox was full.
He has a couple of concerns that he expressed in his email. He thinks that the change from 75
years to 50 years is something that deserves greater public input than has happened so far. The
number of homes that would be included in that 25 year difference is quite substantial. It is not
so much whether they are designated or not but whether someone wants to come and replace
their windows or change the roof or make a second story addition or something like that. It will
have to go through the historic review process and get an historic demolition permit or an
historic alteration permit and that, to him, seems unreasonable. He notices that Coronado is, as a
City, a little bit more lenient in the number of years. He has had to deal with this a couple of
times across the bridge where it is 45 years and it is onerous. He thinks the public needs to
provide input on that. Perhaps more important, though, on complying with the National Historic
Guidelines, the Secretary of the Interior Standards, he thinks the City needs to be real careful and
think that through very carefully about whether or not to choose to apply those standards. As it
stands right now if someone gets an historic alteration permit, one of the criterions of an historic
alteration permit is to comply with the National Secretary of Interior Standards. Many of the
permits that are issued in Coronado do not. Straight out of the box they don‟t comply. It can
create some unintended consequences that the City may not want. For example, if someone
comes in and requests an alteration permit that the City otherwise thinks looks fine and looks like
the original house that does not mean it complies with those national standards. In fact, additions
are supposed to look markedly different. The Lodge project was shot down for National listing
because of the additional building that was constructed. They said it looked too much like the
original building. They were very upset about that having spent a great deal of money
attempting to comply. He thinks the City needs to be very careful as to whether or not it wants
to actually tie its hands with those standards or not.
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Susan Keith spoke in support of the HRC recommendations. She has no problem with reducing
the age from 75 to 50. As a matter of fact, she really doesn‟t have a problem reducing it to no
age. If a house is going to be historic, it is going to be historic no matter what the age is. If
Frank Lloyd Wright were to walk into the City tomorrow and build a new house she thinks the
City would have to look at it carefully to say that this could be historic. Age doesn‟t really
bother her. That is just the first wicket you go through. There are all the other criteria that have
to be met. There is a safety system here. Just because you are 75 years of age or 50 years of age
or 45 doesn‟t necessarily mean you are historic. She is not concerned about the age in there just
because there are so many other wickets and criteria that staff and HRC need to go through. She
thinks staff has done a great job presenting to the City Council the items that have come forth
today. It was particularly important to her to see the number of cities shown on page 177 & 178
that are the cities in the State of California that have historic preservation ordinances. Coronado
is the only city with 75 years of age. There are those with 45 and 50 and there are many with
none. She thinks we are a little out of step with the rest of the State and the National. She
believes this all came about because Councilmember Downey wanted a review of the criteria and
wanted the City to be more in line with the federal and state guidelines rather than making our
own. The HRC has come back with exactly what she thinks the City Council asked for and she
would hope that the Council would support what staff and HRC are recommending.
Doug St. Denis responded to what Dave Gillingham suggested. If she is correct, the City doesn‟t
have the option of not using the national standards. If there is an historic ordinance the
municipality is bound to use the standards of the Secretary of the Interior. Back to the changing
of the age, yes, it is just what started when Councilmember Downey asked HRC to bring the City
more in line with state and national and that is what HRC did. Doing this research that staff has
done so wonderfully there are 63 California cities on here. Most of them, all but 3 of the 63 are
50 years, less or none as an age requirement. So we are definitely out of step. These
inflammatory emails that are getting everyone upset from a former Council person saying that
the Cays will be asking for Mills Act and Country Club – this is not true. People should read the
criteria. Age is not one of the criteria. The criteria come after the age. That is just an age
requirement. Then you read those criteria and they have been cleaned up considerably and there
would be very few. There is a John Laughtner in the Cays and the City would want to take a
look at that. She clarified that there is also an email from the chair of the HRC and it sounds like
it came from HRC but it actually didn‟t. It wasn‟t discussed as a memo so there may be things in
that email that one member might disagree with. There are a few things she disagrees with.
Ms. Denny added, as a point of order, that the chair of the HRC did send a follow up
communication stating that this was his own opinion.
Laura Crenshaw commented that there are numerous structures within the City of Coronado that
are less than 75 years old that are historically significant. Without a change in the City‟s Notice
of Intent to Demolish they could be destroyed and part of Coronado would be gone. Specifically
she is one of those homes and she is a volunteer and will designate her home so that it will not be
destroyed. There are a lot of valuable homes that have gone by the wayside because they don‟t
meet the 75 year criteria. If you don‟t change the criteria for designation, the City should at least
look into the Notice of Demolition and make sure that staff looks at those homes that are
significant based on the architectural construction or maybe even the contractor or builder.
There are significant people within the City of Coronado, throughout time, that have built
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significantly beautiful and historic homes that will not be considered because they are not 75
years old. If they would look at the structures that are 50 years old or even 45 or if you choose to
have none, those that are just historically significant and not allow them to be demolished. The
criteria for Notice of Demolition is that they aren‟t even going to look at them unless they are 75
years or older and there are many, many homes that are not. We are going to change daily as we
get older and older and only then will some of these homes be eligible to be saved by the criteria
that are now established.
Mayor Tanaka closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Ovrom referred to page 177 and the list of 63 cities. They talk about the fact
that the age requirement is none but it is then followed up, for demo review, only demos that
trigger CEQA. Is his understanding correct in that it means that it has already been designated
historic?
Ms. Olsen explained that if it says that the age requirement is none that is the age requirement for
nomination. For example, in Bakersfield, where there is no age requirement, you can bring
forward a resource of any age for designation as long as it meets the criteria. The next column
over, where it says demo review that means that, in Bakersfield, they only review demos that
trigger CEQA. So, for example, if there is a project associated with the demolition that triggers
CEQA then that resource would be reviewed regardless of the age.
Mr. Ovrom went on to say that to be considered for CEQA means that it already has to be
designated historic.
Ms. Olsen responded that is not the case but it just means that if there is a project that triggers
CEQA for whatever reason they review all impacts to the environment including historic
resources.
Mr. Ovrom doesn‟t understand triggering CEQA. It sounds to him like anything can trigger
CEQA and he does not believe that is true.
Ms. Olsen explained that in many cities a coastal development permit would trigger CEQA, for
example. When she worked in San Diego, if there was a project on a bluff in La Jolla and they
needed a coastal development permit, that would trigger CEQA and as part of that CEQA review
you would review for impacts to the environment, including impacts to historic resources, both
cultural and architectural.
City Attorney Johanna Canlas explained that the public resources code provides in 21.084.1 that
a project that may cause a substantial adverse change in the significance of a historical resource
is a project, meaning it requires CEQA review. Then it further defines a historic resource as
defined under section 21.084.1 a resource is either listed in or determined to be eligible in the
California Register of Historic Resources, the California Register. It also provides that those
resources listed in a local register of historical resources or those resources deemed significant
pursuant to the criteria found in subsection g of section 50.24.1 of the public resource code. The
public resources code actually defines the historic resource that would be considered for CEQA
review in addition to other CEQA review that may be required as part of a discretionary permit.
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Ms. Downey understands where Mr. Ovrom is trying to go. If the City were to change its statute
and say there is no time limit and she has a house that is 32 years old, does that mean that it has
to go through review if it has not been declared historic by our HRC, by the State HRC or by the
National HRC?
Ms. Canlas explained that it is not a black and white answer. This is because there are certain
criteria that have to be considered so there is no easy answer. If it is not eligible for all those
resources, if it is not listed, then that is where you have to balance which law suit you are going
to want to defend. The conservative side is that the structure is to be preserved and if the courts
determine that the City was in the wrong then the structure is there or, the alternative is because
it doesn‟t qualify then a demolition permit is then issued and at which point what is the recourse
after the fact. Those are the interests the City has to weigh and those are very fact specific.
Mr. Ovrom moved to the next question where it says Campbell, no age requirement, survey for
demolition. He asked what that means.
Ms. Olsen explained that means that the City of Campbell has a city wide adopted survey that
identifies resources that are potentially historic. If a demolition permit would be submitted for a
property on that survey it would be reviewed by the HRC for eligibility prior to issuance of a
demolition permit.
Mayor Tanaka added that would have been akin to the City‟s list that had been previously
worked on.
Mr. Ovrom understands that is a finite list. It may grow but it is a finite list. So any property
owner should be able to go look at the list to see if they are on it or not. If they are not on the list
then they are not subject to any demolition requirements by the City.
Ms. Olsen agreed that is the case for the city of Campbell.
Mr. Ovrom pointed out that Coronado has a list but in Coronado it doesn‟t work that way.
Mayor Tanaka commented that the City switched to the age requirement.
Councilmember Denny explained, for the public, that what Mr. Ovrom is getting at is that
members of the public took hundreds of volunteer hours and identified an historic resource
inventory. That has since been dropped by City Council. It doesn‟t have the force and effect as
it would in a city like Campbell.
Mr. Ovrom noted that on the list of 63 cities, of the 18 cities in the County, only 9 are on the list.
It seems to him that what is going on is people are saying that we ought to do what everybody
else does. He doesn‟t buy that. He thinks Coronado is unique and he doesn‟t think Coronado
needs to do what everybody else does because he could just take that 50/50 and say that we
should do nothing and do away with the HRC and not do this. He doesn‟t favor that and never
has favored that. He is just trying to get down to the base of this thing because he thinks the
emphasis is being placed on the wrong syllable. To him, in securing the historic resource they
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really ought to be truly historic and everyone ought to think that. He can think of a half a dozen
structures in this town that he is worried about and he is worried about the fact that the City is
going to lose them. Somehow in all of this talk he thinks that the City loses sight of the fact that
those are the things that the citizens really care about and not 50 years or 60 years or 75 years.
Ms. Denny feels that Mr. Coons brings up some very good points. In particular, he mentioned
that on page 161 limiting demolition to just the exterior of an historic resource is not favorable
and also, on page 162 that we are losing cultural landscape and cultural resources so that might
be a little limiting there. His third point was about the taking away of the requirement for public
transparency such that the site plans are not available to the public in terms of demolition permit
applicant. She was wondering, since the HRC is present, how they felt about that. She loves the
recommendation very much and can support it wholeheartedly but as a point of a factual
question she just wanted to know if HRC could also support those three changes. Ms. Denny
asked Mr. Ryan as the chair of the HRC but is aware that the HRC hasn‟t discussed these
changes since Mr. Coons just talked about them today. She asked what his gut feeling is for
those changes and whether they are something he could support.
Jon Ryan, Chair, HRC, requested that all 5 members be able to speak. There are four other
commissioners at the meeting. He is not sure where Mr. Coons was going with the interior thing.
He does agree, in many respects, with Councilmember Ovrom that Coronado is unique. It is
interesting to work through staff with a marching order from a Council to the HRC to staff.
HRC is not really talking to the Council. HRC may not have been at the meeting where the issue
came up. They receive an interpretation and then try to put together the workup for the Council.
HRC has been very jealous to stay away from interior. HRC is very much not involved with the
backyard. HRC doesn‟t want to become so draconian that we won‟t have people volunteer their
homes. It is all about property rights. These folks are volunteers. They are volunteering to
participate in the program. The program has some nice benefits and it gives them a nice tax
reduction so they can maintain the home. He would like the other four to come up. He thinks
that HRC has always tried to stay way away from the interior and he is not sure what Mr. Coons
was really speaking to.
Mayor Tanaka said that, having been a former HRC member, he has the luxury of knowing what
they put together and he has some feelings about that. One of them was the term a „designated
interior.‟ Mayor Tanaka agrees with Mr. Ryan that historically the HRC has stayed away from
interiors. But Mr. Coons raised the interesting point that there could be a designating authority
above the City that got involved. His point was that the City could add the term, which doesn‟t
mean that the City is forcing itself to designate interiors, but that possibility is included in the
enforcement. What he has heard Mr. Ryan say is that the HRC‟s marching orders, historically,
from the Council, have been to stay away from the issue of interiors and deal with front façade
mostly and the exterior of the home. Some of the other areas Mr. Coons brought up were areas
that, for whatever reason, the City has avoided. Mayor Tanaka suggested that maybe either,
when we really get into the nuts and bolts of whether the Council is accepting this
recommendation, tweaking it or sending it back, the Council could either just use its authority to
add that if it is appropriate or ask them to consider the points raised by Mr. Coons. He doesn‟t
want to put the entire HRC on the spot.
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Mr. Ryan added that HRC does its calculations on when there is any kind of modification to the
home they go through a San Diego County Assessor process where the part that was changed
doesn‟t count in the Mills Act. The part that was left is what was used and it is done on a square
foot of the structure basis, not on the land. This is a volunteer, come forward – the
citizen/property owner comes forward to HRC and the City is offering designation of historical
and then perhaps Mills Act. They have never gone near the interior although he supposes that
someone could come forward and volunteer that. He is not sure the City would know how to
police that or how to handle that. He knows that the Del is on a national situation and the
interior was a part of that so that is different.
Councilmember Downey appreciates all the work that has been done as a result of her request.
She is not discounting what was done. She is not sure this is addressing the issue she was most
concerned about in the emails she has received. What she wanted was for everyone to know
whether the house was historic or not. She feels she and Mr. Ovrom are on the same page. She
is open to how this is done and to the years that are done and to which houses are historic but she
just wants people to know if they own their home, can they demolish it if they want to or not? It
isn‟t a hard question but apparently in Coronado it is. That is her problem and she is not sure we
have cracked that nut yet. She was a big proponent of the list along with former Mayor Smisek
so that the City could just be done and over with and all these people on the list have historic
homes. The City got away from the list because there were a lot of people who were afraid that
they weren‟t on the list or they didn‟t want to be on the list. What she was suggesting is that the
City makes it crystal clear to the average person. If she, as an attorney with two law degrees
who does environmental work for a living, can‟t read our regulations and walk down the street
and figure out if a house is historic or not we have a problem. And she can‟t. She is not sure
how we get there. She appreciates all the work and she thinks there is a way to do it here but she
just doesn‟t think we have reached what her goal had been which was to encourage historic
preservation, to reward historic preservation, but not to stop everybody else from doing whatever
they might want to do on a house that we don‟t care about anyway. She thinks Mr. Ovrom is
right. If we open it up to 50 years right now we have really opened up a lot of homes that are
going to have to go through the process. They will be kicked out. She has no doubt that HRC
will say they aren‟t historic but it will delay things. Our current rules, if all we did was change it
to 50, wouldn‟t allow staff the ability to just throw them out. It would have to go before HRC to
then be thrown out very easily. But our rules would require that. That is a lot of staff work if
that is what we are doing. She is leery to do that. She wouldn‟t have a problem with going to
the no age limit if we had something like a survey or a list. She was trying to find some way to
help define that under our definition of notable just so people would know. She is really
appreciative of the City trying to make this work for everyone and to preserve the homes we
want but give an easy out to someone else. She wants people to think about unique situations.
She bought a house over on H Avenue. It had a beautiful, original, one story, Palmer type house.
The previous owners built a nice extension on the back and did it in a way so that she could
probably go in and get the original part termed historic if she wants to. The former owners saw
other houses being knocked down around the City and went and took a bunch of cool old stuff
from the same period and put it in the house. If we go to insides there will be another whole
kettle of worms that she is not sure we are ready to get into. She wants the Council to think
about that. She doesn‟t want us to further complicate our lives as to whether it is historic or not.
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Mayor Tanaka is more in the undecided camp. He is in general agreement with the
recommendation put together by HRC. The last Mayor did have a preference towards a list. His
preference was for a system where you had some degree of certainty. You were either on the list
and had to deal with the consequences or you weren‟t. He thinks the Council made a deliberate
action to move away from that. He thinks it was too controversial to put a list together. He
referred to Ms. Denny‟s comment about how much effort went into making the list. The City
has never asked a commission to do more volunteer work than the City did in putting that list
together. He thinks the City did a good thing by moving away from it. The reason we moved
away from the list to the 75 year part is because 75 years was already the standard the City had
been using ever since it began its program. It was a reasonable delineator where someone would
know if they weren‟t 75 they wouldn‟t trigger a review process for a demo permit. He thinks, as
a standard, it is reasonable. For him the only question today is whether or not the City wants to
change that standard from 75 to 50 years. One of the interesting things is that we all would like
this program to be as voluntary as possible. We would all like scenarios where people apply for
designation and the City then evaluates whether it meets the standards or not. If a 45 year old
home wanted to apply it could. For his money, the issue about age only comes down to the
demolition permit part and how the City wants to create a trigger and how onerous the City
wants that trigger to be. That doesn‟t mean 50 years is necessarily onerous but obviously,
mathematically, it triggers more homes for review. His initial response would be that he is not
sure that 50 years is a fair standard to trigger so many reviews. The one olive branch he held out
on that issue is the group that will suffer from that the most, if there is an uptick in the number of
demolition reviews, would be HRC. So, if HRC voted 5-0 to change the standard to 50 he
assumes they were aware of this. He hasn‟t made up his mind on that but he tends to lean
towards where Mr. Ovrom and Ms. Downey are coming from that 75 years is an easier standard
to maintain and use going forward. He doesn‟t think there are a huge number of homes that the
City would be wishing we had a 50 year standard for. The Delawie home is the only one that is
brought up as a perpetual example that our current rules didn‟t give the City the trigger it would
have wanted to have had a demolition review. But that really is the exception to the rule. He
would need a little more convincing that the City ought to move to 50 years. The last thing he
talked about is how onerous it would be if the City went to 50 years. How many people are
really being inconvenienced if HRC really has the sophistication to look at the criteria and
determine easily that a home is not historic?
Councilmember Woiwode had a couple of questions. One has to do with the notice required in
doing something like this. Is there anything that requires that the City notify people who would
be affected by going from 75 to 50 years?
Ms. Canlas explained that there was a public hearing notice that was published in the Eagle
Journal and that satisfies the legal requirement for any change in the Code. That was met.
Mr. Woiwode feels it may satisfy the letter of the law but it doesn‟t make any sense to him to put
something in the fine print in the Eagle Journal and say everyone in town knows about it. He
would like to see the Council delay the decision on the age until more people are aware of this
discussion because he thinks it is true that it is a surprise to a lot of people. He thinks the criteria
that have been set up that are described are wonderful. He thinks the execution of criteria A
through E are exactly what the Council asked for when it brought up this discussion and what he
feels is very helpful in making determinations that come before the Council. F is still
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unpopulated because we don‟t know how the historic district will work out. So the big
controversy comes down to the age and he is struck by the fact that people say to look at all these
other cities and the fact that no one else has 75 years. That is true but most of the municipalities
don‟t have 50 years either for demo review. What they have is survey, survey, survey, triggers
CEQA, survey, survey, survey. There are not very many of the demo reviews that are triggered
by an age determination. He has spent a lot of time in Berkeley and they have no requirement
for age for designation but the only ones that trigger demo review are demos that trigger CEQA.
It seems to him that when we are talking about 75 years or 50 years we aren‟t really talking
about the designation of historical but we are talking about the demo review. He doesn‟t know
why we want to couple those two. If we want to go to 0 for the age requirement for historic
designation that is fine with him as long as the demo review doesn‟t become an onerous process
at City Hall. He is on board with everything that has been said and thinks that we all are trying
to get to the same place here. What we are struggling with is the decision not to do survey. He
would be really happy to have it say Coronado – none and demo review said survey. He thinks
that would be perfect. In the absence of that, if it said 75 years or survey, maybe the City could
have list of the ones that are not yet 75. He is moving in the direction of saying that there needs
to be a little bit more discussion. The designation application should be decoupled from the
demo review. They are not the same criteria and they shouldn‟t be. The City should figure out
how to approach those things with more public input than it has had so far. He is moving in the
direction of moving for the alternative which is to approve all of the things in here with the
exception of historic district and with the exception of the age to be determined as a later agenda
item.
Ms. Denny could also support recommending the HRC fully in their recommendations, actually
authorizing them. She is ready to vote for a change to 50 years because it is persuasive to her the
arguments that were given but if her colleagues would like to wait on that she would not
begrudge them that opportunity.
Ms. Downey doesn‟t want to do anything that touches historic districts yet.
MSUC (Woiwode/Ovrom) moved that the City Council: 1) adopt A RESOLTUION
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CORONADO
ADOPTING HISTORIC DESIGNATION CRITERIA GUIDELINES
FOR THE CITY OF CORONADO. The Resolution was read by
Title, the reading in its entirety unanimously waived and adopted by
Council as RESOLUTION NO. 8505; 2) introduce AN ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CORONADO,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 84.10 REGARDING
HISTORIC RESOURCE CODE AND CHAPTER 84.20
REGARDING HISTORIC RESOURCE ALTERATION AND
DEMOLITION PERMITS. The Ordinance was read by Title, the
reading in its entirety unanimously waived and placed by the City
Council on FIRST READING; 3) defer the change of the age
threshold for historic designation and demolition review referenced in
the attached Historic Designation Criteria Guidelines and Historic
Resource Code from 75 to 50 years until public outreach has been
undertaken; and 4) defer the change to the language of Criterion F
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related to Historic Districts referenced in the attached Historic
Designation Criteria Guidelines and Historic Resource Code until the
complete Historic District ordinance is returned to City Council for
review.
Ms. Canlas wanted Mr. Woiwode to clarify if he is not intending to make any proposal as to the
designation criteria guidelines because it is a separate item right now.
Mr. Woiwode did correct his motion to reflect inclusion of #1 in the alternative recommendation.
The second still stands.
City Manager Blair King feels staff may need some time to caucus. It can be assumed, based on
the discussion, that within the guidelines, the age requirement would default to the 75 years and
not the 50 years that are within that. So the change, pursuant to the motion, is that the guidelines
are being adopted, excluding the 50 year limit that is contained within the guidelines.
Mr. Woiwode responded that is correct because, as described under #2 or #3, until public
outreach has been undertaken.
Ms. Denny observed that it seems like the Council is punting a little bit here. She is hopeful that
the Council will get to the HRC recommendation more fully and get some support for their
excellent recommendation in the future.
Mr. Ovrom has a desire to be more definitive about who is on the list and who is not on the list
and then to absolutely get to the place where we have a list and we use the list.
Mr. Woiwode considers that a part of the discussion about age. That is a necessary part of the
determination of that age criteria. He is not changing the motion. His understanding is that the
Council would be open to the discussion of the use of a list.
Ms. Denny clarified that by a list we mean similar to a survey as is listed on page 177. This is
invested with a kind of authority that would help make decisions for when a demolition is
requested and so forth whether CEQA is triggered or not. She pointed out that on page 179 there
is an email from Jon Ryan, Chair of the HRC that reflect his thoughts. There is so much of it
that she would like to highlight because it is excellent. In particular she highlighted one of the
lines in one of the final paragraphs. “The HRC was established 10 years ago to preserve and
protect our history and village atmosphere.” She highlighted this for the public. The HRC is not
a limited special interest group but instead works for all of Coronado and we all love to live here
and move here and enjoy the village atmosphere and that is really what the HRC is protecting.
That guides here whenever she reviews recommendations from the HRC.
Mayor Tanaka understands that what we are saying is that we agree with the bulk of the HRC
recommendation but the main areas that are being sent back to give more time to think about it
and make sure the public has heard about this issue and is ready to weigh in if they want to is
whether or not to change the age from 75 to 50, specifically what the designation criteria will be
for historic districts and whether or not there is even the potential to move away from 75 or 50 to
a survey or a list method.
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Ms. Downey commented that, for the benefit of those who don‟t have knowledge of what
occurred in the past, there was a semi-official survey that identified historic properties but it was
not complete. Then the HRC spent many, many hours attempting to update that list because
some properties were not on the list and some didn‟t have good explanations, but it was a list that
produced hundreds of homes. At the time, everyone shook their heads and felt that the public
didn‟t know there would be that many homes that were historic. For lots of reasons the City
Council voted not to adopt that list and went to this standard. She feels that Mr. Woiwode said
something that is very important. She has no problem with any home being declared historic so
it is not the age thing. The question is what triggers when you have to go before the Board
before you want to do an alteration or a demo and she likes the idea of decoupling those and
using a possible survey list or whatever the City wants to call it that would trigger so that you
can‟t go and just pull a permit or pull an alteration permit or a demo permit if you are on the list.
She thinks this is a little bit better and thinks there is a difference. She doesn‟t think the City is
saying that you can‟t be historic if you aren‟t on the list or that you couldn‟t put yourself in.
Mayor Tanaka thinks that the hard part isn‟t whether to decouple an age requirement from
whether something is historic from a demolition permit. You could very easily say that there is
no age requirement for voluntary designation. The harder issue is what standard will be used to
deny someone a demo permit. That is always going to be the hard part. When we discuss 75 or
50 year issue that really is the heart of the discussion. The City has written an ordinance in a
way where if you voluntarily apply and your house is 56 years of age you could still be
designated historic. The real question is what if you had a 48 year old house that was made by
Frank Lloyd Wright there would be a whole different standard there and there would be a
community issue about whether or not to allow that house to get a demo permit. He thinks it is
understood, as a consensus, that is why the Council is pulling out the age part and that is why the
issue of whether or not a survey should be used is at least part of what might come back into this
discussion. He doesn‟t think there is consensus on whether or not we are actually going to
switch from 75 to 50 or to a survey but we are just saying we are going to take more time on that.
Mr. Ovrom fully agrees with the comments that the City needs to back and get more input. His
suggestion is that the City Manager go back to two groups or tries to form two groups
specifically. One is to go back to the realtors and ask them about disclosure and what the impact
of something like that is so that there is no question in the mind of the sellers or the buyers. The
second one is find a group of 20 people who fall into that category of 50 to 75 that have not
heard about this and bring them in to hear what they think.
Ms. Denny wanted to point out two things for the record. The first one is that the public might or
might not be aware of how the program works. She would say 99% of the time in Coronado, our
historic preservation program is, in fact, voluntary. It works very well. There are no issues. In
fact, it is just very successful. She would say it is an unqualified success. As in any town, in
Coronado there is a small percentage of battles that ensue over demolition and so forth that she
thinks we can count on one hand the number of times that has happened and still have fingers left
over in Coronado. She doesn‟t want the public to think it is some exaggerated threat, the historic
resources program, because it is not. It works very well. In another agenda item the Council
will be talking about how historically designated homes that apply for a Mills contract, if
accepted, actually help the property revenue, increase property revenues and heritage tourism to
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our town. She wants the public to be reassured that for the large, large, overwhelming majority,
99% of the time the historic resources program works wonderfully in Coronado. She thanked the
HRC members and staff for all they do. She also clarified for the record the characterization that
was made about the list having hundreds and hundreds of potential homes that were found in
Coronado to be historic she believes it is somewhere in the area of perhaps, potentially 200
homes.
Ms. Downey interjected that it was 600.
Ms. Denny will definitely speak with the HRC members again. That was her understanding that
this is not an exaggerated amount and just being on the list doesn‟t mean that you are an historic
resource but it just sort of gives a presumption of wanting to look into it. She just says this with
regard to speaking to anyone who might share the Mayor‟s hesitancy towards a list or a survey.
Mr. King wants stated that he is hearing two motions. The one motion that was made was to
adopt the resolution, excluding the age criteria, introduce the ordinance, again excluding the age
criteria and the historic district, and to postpone the discussion on the age in the historic district.
He believes the second motion someone may want to entertain is to direct staff how the Council
would want staff to proceed with publicizing or seeking input.
Mayor Tanaka wants to deal with the motion on the table.
Ms. Denny added that while the list was long what she meant to say was that the agreement
among historic preservationists in town was that at most a small percentage of the list might be
considered historic.
AYES: Denny, Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
Mayor Tanaka moved on to discuss Mr. King‟s recommendation for a second motion. He shares
Mr. Ovrom‟s reluctance in that the City wants to make sure the public is informed and aware that
this discussion is going to take place. He thinks that is a large part of why this is being
postponed. He thinks a month would give staff enough time to make publicize this with more
than just small print in the back of the Eagle. He hears consensus by the Council that it wants
staff to put forward a strong effort to make sure that the public is aware that the Council will be
discussing this.
Ms. Denny feels that is reasonable but wants to know if the controller of the agenda feels the
same about one month.
Mayor Tanaka wants to know if the Council thinks that is reasonable first. The other council
members indicated their agreement. Mr. King firmed that staff doesn‟t have a problem with a
month.
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9. ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS: None.
10. COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS: None.
11. CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS:
11a. Council Reports on Inter-Agency Committee and Board Assignments.
11b. Report from the Historic Resource Commission Regarding a Change to the
Mills Act Program to Reduce the Mills Act Agreement Waiting List and Direction to Staff
Regarding the Processing of Mills Act Agreements in 2011 (HP 2011-03 City of Coronado). Tricia Olsen, Associate Planner, provided the staff report. Ms. Olsen explained that the rental
value has to be either inflated or deflated to adjust the restricted value under the Mills Act. That
particular aspect of the formula is the only aspect of the formula that cities can work with in
order to manipulate the restricted value under the Mills Act.
Councilmember Ovrom referred to the rental value of $8,950 per month as listed on page 184 of
the staff report. He thinks that seems a little high for a $1.5 million property.
Ms. Olsen agreed that it would be inflated in order to achieve that restricted Mills Act value.
Mr. Ovrom continued by saying that if it were not that, as that number goes down, then the rental
value goes down.
Ms. Olsen explained that the restricted Mills Act value would go down to $335,176 which is the
Mills Act value under the current methodology. Say, for example, that it is a rented property and
it is renting for $3,000 per month then you would just use that normal rental value. But, for our
purposes, for the 50% savings methodology, you are inflating that rental value to achieve a
different restricted Mills Act value.
Ms. Downey clarified that if the City didn‟t do anything right now and left the code the way it is
but said we are going to stop inflating values and we will actually use the value of what it is
worth with the economy we would wind up giving someone who was waiting for Mills Act less
money and less benefit in taxes. Their taxes wouldn‟t be lowered as much if we used the true
rental value as opposed to the inflated one.
Ms. Olsen corrected that the City currently uses the true rental value. The existing Mills Act
methodology uses the current rental value that a property would rent for if it were rented.
Mr. Ovrom followed up by saying that in comparison to value of property Coronado rents are
less than somewhere else. It seems to him that you can rent a place in Coronado a lot cheaper
than you can buy one and pay the payments on it. Is that a deflator of what the value is?
Ms. Olsen said that since the beginning of August staff consulted with three different real estate
agents in town and had them provide rental values for every property that is on the waiting list.
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Staff then took an average. Whether or not those rental values are lower or higher than what you
would see in say, Carlsbad, she is not sure but they are accurate in terms of what is seen in
Coronado.
Ms. Olsen continued with the staff report.
Councilmember Denny commented about the item she supplied to staff to distribute to the
Council and the public after the agenda had been distributed. It is the International Real Estate
Review 2008 article by Professor Andrew Narwold, an economics professor at the University of
San Diego. In that report he mentions that historic preservation programs that work well can
add, using his economic and mathematic methodology that is very sound, can add a 16%
increase in housing value in a city. She was hoping staff received that and had a chance to look
at that.
Ms. Olsen is familiar with the study.
Ms. Denny added that Professor Narwold will probably be speaking again at a Speak Out
Coronado community meeting. He has already spoken at one of those meetings and was very
well received. She would love to introduce him to any staff member who is interested in
speaking with him directly.
Bruce Coons, Executive Director, Save Our Heritage Organization, provided some additional
information. They ran this through their attorney to see what issues might come up. They agree
that Coronado‟s system needs to have more of an inclusionary ability to make it more viable. He
really thinks that raising the cap is probably the best thing. They did come up with a number of
concerns. The concerns are based on the Williamson Act. The valuations that are put out for
that prepare rental value on the use and are a very supportable scenario. If you go away from
this and go to an arbitrary number that is negotiated it is not supportable and is probably subject
to challenge by other property owners. He thinks there is an inequity between the current people
on the list, current people who have the Mills Act, and the people who would be coming in the
future and that sets up another chance where a property owner in the future could challenge why
he only gets 50% and others get 77%. Then the City will back off and say it is a negotiated value
but there is no basis to say that is really a fair rental value for a property. Fair rental is what the
fair rental value is and so it is unsupportable by the facts. Once again he thinks that going down
this road has a whole lot of problems. There should be more attention given to raising the cap.
This is not an impartial process. It is not a process that has a degree of impartiality and this goes
back again to the defensibility of the decisions.
Susie Vetter commented that her property at The Monterey had been on the waiting list for about
four years. She was a part of the last two HRC meetings and agreed with their recommendation
in that those who have been waiting for so long, to have the game changed midstream, would be
not right. When you consider and look at these lists she is number 10 on the list. The exceptions
that have been made in the last couple of years in 2009, approving $67,000 and in 2010 going
away from the $15,000 to contracts of approximately $50,000 – if it is the Council‟s intention to
try to eliminate these 28 homes off of the list that have been approved – if the Council were to
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take the first 9 on the list instead of just the first 7, that amount is about $60,000 and then the
City could get rid of #10 in a heartbeat. #10 is about $67,000 in and of itself as it is 15 units.
She hopes the City Council goes in the direction that is fair to the community of people waiting.
Jon Ryan, Chair, HRC, thinks he is speaking with some consensus of the team. HRC has been
an element for the City for approximately 11 years. The net property tax stream, which is after
the State and the County and everyone else gets their hands on the City‟s property tax, was at
roughly $8 million in 2000 and were at roughly $20 million coming out of last year. From a
business model or any kind of a business number sense that is pretty good considering what has
happened to the economy and what has happened to all the other communities trying to sell real
estate. That kind of says that the blue study that talks about the halo effect, whether or not you
want to buy that one, this certainly hasn‟t hurt the City. What is being talked about is not
expense but rather a foregone future income stream and that stream is doing well. We are at 16
years wait right now so if someone comes to the City trying to volunteer and HRC is
representing the City it is a little restrictive. If we go to the 50 we go to 10. HRC debated as
best it could. His opinion is that the City could do this in 18 months to 2 years, kill the backlog
and move to 50%. He thinks that HRC all intellectually agreed that because the City‟s prices are
so high and they are going up because of the value of the atmosphere in the community that the
HRC could offer a 50% and it would be workable. Most reasonable people would say that is
pretty good. Then they discussed whether or not they could recommend to the Council to go
immediately to 50 and all the people on the waiting list would get it sooner but they, as a public
entity, were offering and inducing and they were volunteering so the City is kind of into
something with those people. Then HRC agreed that the best solution might be to agree with the
50% going forward but those who are already accepted have to be given the original deal. While
he wanted to do this in two years, others wanted four. He thinks that would be reasonable. HRC
needs the Council‟s support because it is representing the City‟s element and he thinks they are
at a point where it needs some adult help to get it back on track.
Dave Gillingham thinks of the Mills Act is an incentive program. He would encourage the City
to do whatever it can to enhance the Mills Act in Coronado. Specifically he doesn‟t think it
would be appropriate to change the deal for the people who are already on the list. He thinks that
the City should try to clear that list out expeditiously. It doesn‟t seem like a ton of money when
compared with some other things the City spends money on. He doesn‟t understand why we
can‟t just call it 50% and why we have to contrive a rental value to come up with some
arbitrary…He thinks it should be incentive and that the City should clear out the list. He asked
the Council to consider having some sort of trigger in any modified ordinance that says if the
waiting list gets beyond x number of years (3, 4 or 5) that the process be reviewed. It just is
ludicrous to him that there is a program with a wait time of 16 years.
Mayor Tanaka agrees with the recommendation. He pointed out that there is a history to the
Mills Act in Coronado in that when it was first started there was a $5,000 cap. The City wasn‟t
going to approve contracts that would cause City revenue to go down more than $5,000. In the
first years of the program there were only a few Mills Act contracts approved and only a few
added each year. This Council has been very progressive, or generous, in changing that rule.
Last year there were 35 homes on the list and the Council made a point of processing 7. The
year before it did the same thing. So he thinks this group has honored its commitment and agree
that it shouldn‟t take a lifetime to get on the list and then to receive a Mills Act agreement. He
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thinks that the Council is on track to fulfill that promise. If there are 28 homes and 7 a year are
done, in four years the backlog will be cleared. The more difficult issue is that the 28th
home
won‟t be the last home to apply for the Mills Act. The problem doesn‟t go away except for the
current 28 on the list. People bring up the financial health of the City a lot and there has never
been a Council member who hasn‟t been proud of the financial vitality of the City‟s bottom line.
It is important to look at what the Mills Act. On page 184 of the agenda it shows the current
methodology. Everyone has to admit that what makes the Mills Act great is that it is a very large
tax savings and when you are handing out a tax savings on an annual basis that is anywhere from
60 to 80% in savings, that is a lot of money. Something else that he thinks is relevant that people
don‟t bring up is the topic of the next agenda item about the City‟s revenues and expenditures.
The City‟s revenues are a little bit higher than expected and the expenditures are a little bit
lower. Once again, the City made the taxpayer more money than had been budgeted for. There
is one area where the City hasn‟t made a lot of extra money for the taxpayers. The number one
revenue source is property tax. The actual number for how much property tax the City collected
last year was $20,399,700. That is only an increase over last years‟ property tax revenue by
$11,340. Historically, when Coronado has had a surplus of $2 or $3 or $6 million that has gone
put into the General Fund. The biggest reason the City has been able to build its reserve up is
because of property tax revenue. By just adding the seven homes the City is talking about today
will have negate that small increase in property tax revenue over last year. The City‟s assessed
valuations are strong but the worst thing a council can do is leave a future city council, in 10 or
20 years, with fewer homes to be able to bank those surpluses on. Again, the two biggest tax
sources are property tax and hotel tax. Every council that has realized a surplus of $3 to $5
million has done it with a combination of those two revenue sources. The more homes the City
Council puts in the Mills Act, the more are zeroed out and will not contribute to what the City
counts on to keep its property tax revenues going up. If you go back to a house that has an
assessed valuation of $350,000 and it stays at that valuation for as long as the home is in the
Mills Act that is a home that a council in 20 years will never be able to realize any revenue gains
out of. He thinks it is a good idea that the Council be prudent when considering changes to the
Mills Act program. The happy news he has to offer is that he does think the City needs to honor
its commitment to the 28 homes on the list. He doesn‟t think it would be appropriate to change
the rules on them because the City hasn‟t been able to give them any faster service but the least it
can do is honor the terms and conditions when those 28 entered the program. He thinks the
Council has steered a prudent course by adding 7 properties a year to the program because if
there is something that changes in the City‟s financial picture he thinks that a future Council
should have that ability to make a decision if it needs to. Lastly, he does support the cap. He
thinks a 50% reduction in property taxes is more than ample to be a good incentive to maintain a
house. He is not sure the public realizes the extent of the current benefit.
Councilmember Ovrom appreciates Mayor Tanaka‟s admonition. He pointed out the other side
of that $11,000. When he thinks of what the high priorities of the City are he thinks of police,
fire, sewer, streets, sidewalks, curbs, gutters, storm drains, etc. Those are things that the City
absolutely has to support. So when the Mayor points out this one thing that is being given away
forever, he thinks it is a very prudent consideration to say yes that the City would like to do it,
but it is a concern to him that the City is giving away future revenue. He thinks he can support
the suggestion is to limit the tax savings to 50% for Mills Act contracts because even though
some people think this is THE tool to incentivize historic preservation he thinks it is just one of
the tools. To some people, particularly those in some of the older houses that are still pre prop
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13, other options may be a bigger incentive than this one. His enthusiasm is tempered for the
Mills Act. That doesn‟t mean he doesn‟t want to continue to do it because he wouldn‟t have
voted for it originally if he didn‟t want to support this kind of stuff. He cautions, as the Mayor
does, that the City continue to look out to in the future and not try to bind a future council.
Councilmember Downey feels that this is a very tough issue. She believes in historic
preservation as a voluntary program. The only way to gain participation is to offer incentives.
One incentive that Mr. Ryan pointed out was the ability to received zoning variations, which she
feels is a great value. The realtors can tell you how much that is worth. She is open to what her
colleagues have to say because she would very much like to get rid of the backlog. She wants to
reward the people that voluntarily came to this program and she is fine with going to 50% for
future Mills Act contracts. She worries about a couple of properties that we all love and would
be heartbroken over if anything happened to them. The current owners have no intention of
tearing them down, but they also haven‟t applied for historic preservation. She doesn‟t know
how to deal with that but is raising it as an issue. She is okay with the suggestions for the
backlog. She voted with the Council to do as many as it could every year to try to get rid of the
backlog but she is just not sure how happy we are going to be in the future if these really
valuable homes that the community sees as part of our true fabric aren‟t going to be able to
benefit.
Mayor Tanaka pointed out that there isn‟t even a 50% cap yet and those homes have had a
decade to consider coming in. He thinks that when someone owns a $10 million home their
considerations are bigger than just what the property tax savings will be, particularly if you talk
about property like Crown Manor. A previous council approved that for the program and it had
9 lots underneath it. That was the reason the City gave back $65,000 or so in annual revenue
because it meant less density and was the savior of a particular resource. The resource owner has
to want to be a partner. Even if the Mills Act formula wasn‟t changed, those people have chosen
not to be a partner for economic reasons.
Ms. Downey is open to what the rest of the Council wants. She likes the idea and appreciates
Mr. Woiwode having the City go down this road to look at ways to get rid of the backlog. She is
just concerned as there are some homes that she worries what this will do to.
Councilmember Woiwode feels that all of the considerations expressed so far point him toward
supporting the motion to approve the recommendation in the staff report.
MSC (Woiwode/Tanaka) moved that the City Council approve the Mills
Act applications already received using the existing methodology and
to expedite the approval of the Mills Act applications already received
such as those already waiting that are „on target‟ for approval within
the next four years. The reason for that change is that he would like
each council, each year, to not feel that they are stuck with the
agreement from the previous year depending on what happens with
the budget. The City Council also directed that the new methodology
be applied; limiting the property tax savings to 50%, for Mills Act
applications received after the City Council adopts the resolution
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Councilmember Denny feels that this is such an important topic for our town that affects
everybody. She wanted to respond to those who may be asking why they should even care about
the Mills Act by saying that everyone should care about the Mills Act because it is the tool, the
incentive that preserves our village atmosphere. That is the number one thing that people point
to in terms of quality of life. She would agree with those speakers who said that the Mills Act is
very important. It preserves our village atmosphere, the reason why we are attracted to come and
live here, the reasons why we want to come back here if we have to move away for any reason,
the reason why people really want to not only live on our island but also visit our island for
reasons of heritage tourism. It is really a very important incentive to keep our village
atmosphere so that is why we should all care about it. Staff asked for the Council‟s direction on
how to proceed. She wanted to go on the record as saying that she was not part of the majority
that wanted to tweak the Mills Act so she wasn‟t voting to come back with a recommendation for
changing the Mills Act. Having said that, she appreciates all the work that HRC did to
accommodate the wishes of the majority of City Council to reduce the backlog by putting on a
cap. She thinks that what they have come forward with by changing the cap took a lot of work
and it was very professionally done. She spoke with Senator Mills himself about this agenda
item. He was very concerned, again, knowing that the HRC is trying to accommodate the
majority vote by coming up with an idea he still, like her, had reservations because it sounds like,
as was mentioned earlier, it could be legally indefensible. When you do the fallback position of
negotiating with a homeowner you are really opening up liability for the City and he thought it
was a bad idea and it sounds like it could be illegal if the fallback position is the negotiation.
Someone mentioned about how the City could be fair to the community. She thinks the City can
be fair to the community by doing what they look to the City to do. They ask of her, as she
receives a lot of contact from the public, and they are really concerned about the dwindling and
diminishing village atmosphere. There was a gentleman present who said that it is really sad that
he doesn‟t hear Council talking much about the village atmosphere anymore. She talks about it a
lot. What he meant is that it doesn‟t seem like such a focus as it used to be. She thinks he
speaks for just hundreds and hundreds of people. She knows they find her at events and when
she walks door to door speaking with them. It is a real big concern. She thinks it is not fair to
the community to have a 16 year wait list and having 28 homes on the list is a significant
backlog considering we are a small town. Again, she appreciates the HRC‟s hard work in trying
to reduce that backlog based on the input given by a majority of Council. She thinks it all comes
down to your viewpoint and if you think our City is already built out, which is what the
overwhelming majority of residents say to her, you wouldn‟t really expect a large increase in
property taxes. She referred to Mayor Tanaka‟s comment that there was only around $11,000
increase in property tax from last year to this year. For a built out, small beach town that is just
fine. She thinks we are doing just great. As Mr. Ryan pointed out in his letter on page 2005, the
actual property tax income has increased from approximately $8 million to $20 million in the last
10 years so we managed to find ways to increase our property tax revenue. Mr. Ryan also
pointed out that Del Mar and Coronado are unique in their ability to increase property tax
revenue, where many cities in this dreadful economy are not doing so. So for a built out small
beach community in a bad economy she doesn‟t think that it is at all not admirable to have an
increase such as we did in our property tax revenue. That is really the rub of the two different
viewpoints, for the benefit of the public, that you are seeing on Council. Is it the business of this
City government to, or as one Council member said several meetings ago, is development the
bread and butter business of Coronado? If you think that is the engine that is churning us, you
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would tend to want to put a cap on the Mills Act and you would be fearful of the tax reduction.
But if you are not, and she happens to think that the business of our government is not
development, she thinks the business of our government is to provide services that the people
expect in a timely manner. In that regard she agrees with Mr. Ovrom that the public wants
police, fire, and public works and they want their roads working. So we are not really in the
business to develop in Coronado. She does not find any residents that feel that is our bread and
butter business. That is a culture of special, narrow interests and it does seem to her to be the
prevailing culture in her two years of experience at City Hall. She disagrees with that and has
been on record as saying that several times. She thinks the worst thing we could do, to echo the
provocative statement Mayor Tanaka made, is to lose our historic resources to the point where
we have the kind of town that we don‟t even want to live in anymore and nobody wants to come
and visit and our heritage tourism dollars are dwindling and our property values are dwindling
and we look around and we just look like any other city in southern California. We have such a
wealth of history and we have such a unique history that is touched upon by the development of
the Hotel Del and our island as a resort community and the fact that we are near military
installations as we celebrate the centennial of Naval aviation which is such a big part of our
history – we are so unique and we need to preserve these resources that fit that criteria that we
spoke about at another agenda item. She referred to when Ms. Downey talked about the few
valuable homes that we want to preserve. She thinks the majority of the folks in Coronado really
love our small beach cottages. That is a part of Coronado, too. We might look at one or two big
homes and think that they really define us and in some ways they do. They are really special
homes. But we have quite a few beach cottages that are just getting knocked down and scraped
to put up homes that look beautiful but they really don‟t reflect Coronado or what Coronado is
and they take away our history. In that regard she would differ from Ms. Downey in terms of
what homes we should protect. She agrees with the public that we should protect all the historic
homes, especially the beach cottages in addition to the larger homes. For that reason she thinks
that any cap is wrong and she just wants to go on record for saying that again and kind of laying
that out for the public that might not have been following along with this issue as it is winding its
way through Council over the past two years that she has been actively involved and prior years
that she has been following it as a resident. Even though she doesn‟t live in an historic home
herself she really loves our historic homes and hopes one day to own one because of that halo
effect that Mr. Ryan mentioned. The halo effect is what is talked about in the Historic
Designation and Residential Property Values article. It was written in 2008 by Professor
Andrew Narwold and others in the International Real Estate Review. She has blue sheeted this.
She encourages everyone to take a look at this because what he does is really the answer to
historic preservationists everywhere. He has quantified, using mathematical models, sound
mathematical economic principles, that a 16% increase in housing value happens in cities where
there is a working Mills Act program and a viable historic preservation program. She won‟t go
into the report too much but she wanted to say that it is good, it is sound and there is no way to
take issue with this. She can‟t see intellectually, academically, on a gut feeling level, looking at
it from a common sense viewpoint, every angle, if you look at this and read this report it will
speak to you because what it says is, and what he even said when he came and was a host at one
of her Speak Out Coronado community meetings, is that the halo effect affects the property
values for all the homes in the area. So what does that mean to you? You are a property owner
that doesn‟t have a historic house in an area where there are historic homes, which would be
Coronado; your property value still stays strong so your worth when you are looking at your
financial balance sheet you can look at a strong value for your property. It is not tanking. That
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is how it helps you. It also helps the City in terms of property tax revenues because we stay
strong and we don‟t decline in our property tax revenues even in a bad economy which we are in
now. It is really exceptional and extraordinary. And many people who do the math and who
look at this and do the research think that it is because we have a historic resources inventory.
What is really at risk now is losing that inventory. So our property tax revenues, while in the
short term it seems like we are foregoing something, we really aren‟t because it really isn‟t
costing us any cash value up front because what we are looking at instead is, the term is used
incorrectly, lost revenue in the future should a home be scraped and built up and additional
property taxes are extracted or given to the City. Your own personal property net worth stays
strong which is a great thing. That is if you have a historic home or if you don‟t have a historic
home this program helps you. The second thing is that it helps the City too when we have
additional revenue to do wonderful things for you if we have some degree of heritage tourism.
What that means is that it is the kind of place that people want to come and visit and spend their
dollars and their time. We aren‟t going to have that if we get rid of our historic resources
inventory and we are at risk for doing that if we don‟t have a valid incentive. She thinks that the
best incentive would be to remove the cap because it wouldn‟t really be any money lost that we
have whatsoever but it is just future tax revenues. Again, you would be focusing on that if you
are thinking that the bread and butter business of our town is development. If you are not
focusing on that you will find that we can just afford to do the things we can afford to do and so
she has no problems with removing the cap and she doesn‟t think she could support,
unfortunately while her support for the HRC is strong and unwavering, on something like this
she really can‟t support it.
Ms. Downey comment that she wanted to put this all in perspective. A city the size of the Los
Angeles, per the blue sheeted article, was reported as only designating 200 Mills Act homes.
When we are talking about the budget impacts of the Mills Act in Coronado; that puts this in
perspective.
AYES: Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: Denny
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
The City Council went into recess at 5:52 pm.
The City Council resumed at 6:00 pm.
11c. Interim Financial Report for Year Ending June 30, 2011. Leslie Suelter,
Director of Administrative Services, provided the staff report.
Councilmember Denny asked a Ms. Suelter to explain a little bit more about the $19 million
committed or assigned for the public.
Ms. Suelter responded that the committed amount is approximately $10 million. That means that
those funds can only be used for very specific and limited purposes. In order to use the
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committed funds the City Council must approve those specific purposes. The purpose of these
reserve funds is to respond to a major disaster or major economic fallout. The assigned fund
balance, about $9 million, is set aside for a specific purpose and they can be used for that specific
purpose without staff having to come back to Council. But those are replenished all the time.
The remainder of the assigned fund balance is for cash flow purposes.
Ms. Denny also asked when the City‟s annual audit should begin.
Ms. Suelter explained that there are deadlines to prepare schedules and things for the auditors
that are due by October 18th
. The auditors will be in Coronado early in November to do their
field work.
Ms. Denny said that the reason she asked this question is because the majority of the Council,
with a 4-1 vote, authorized the tunnel audit. She knows that the auditor said it would be difficult
to do the City audit and the tunnel audit side by side. She asked if that has changed or if he has
taken on any other people? She is getting lots of requests from the public about when the tunnel
audit will begin.
Ms. Suelter commented that it is as much a burden on staff as it is on the auditor. City staff
cannot do both at the same time. They are labor intensive processes even in the production and
gathering of the documents. Staff has been doing some of that, pulling documents and making
sure they are available because many of the documents were off site in storage. Part of the
problem for staff is that they have been told not to schedule the audit until they actually have the
letter in hand. When the letter is in hand staff will contact the auditors post haste.
Ms. Denny explained for the public that the letter the City is waiting for is from the Federal
Highways Authority that it is okay to start the tunnel audit because the tunnel project is officially
over, even though the City has had telephonic affirmation.
Jon Ryan asked who the auditors are and whether they are a government entity or a civilian CPA
firm.
City Manager Blair King responded that a private CPA firm, Lance Soll & Lundghard is under
contract to the City to conduct the audit. Rich Kikuchi is the principal that handles Coronado‟s
account. It is the City‟s objective to provide information according to generally accepted
accounting principles. The Governmental Finance Officers‟ Association provides the standards
for audits for government owned nonprofit entities and it is a competitive bid normally offered
for a set term.
Mayor Tanaka pointed out that one of the nice things about serving on the City Council is that
staff routinely comes back to the Council with good news. At the bottom of page 209 the main
highlight of this particular update is that the City‟s revenues exceeded expenditures by $2.5
million. There are a number of areas where the City saw its expectations exceeded by the reality
of either higher returns, more revenue, or once again City staff has shown a real talent for
minimizing expenses. He pointed out earlier that one area where the City did not see greater
revenues than anticipated was in property tax revenue. It was seen in the hotel tax. Frequently
we bring up the fact that around 2007 our TOT revenue hit a high of about $10 million and the
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last few years we have been hovering somewhere between $7 and $8 million. Last year we came
in at about $8.3 million when $7.8 was budgeted for. We are starting to see those good signs.
He thinks one step that staff highlighted that is important to note is that the General Fund balance
went from $41 to $37 million. There was that one time pension side fund issue to deal with. He
is sure all the Council members are very pleased to see, yet again, how well staff has run the City
in terms of its budget.
Councilmember Ovrom echoed that and pointed out that when we started on this budget there
was some frustration on the part of some people. The fact that the City had budgeted a $640,000
negative and then midyear that reduced to slightly under $500,000. This harkened him back to
his days on the School Board when they used to do this all the time. There was always a
negative budget and more always came in and less always went out. He thanked the City
Manager for doing the same thing here.
Councilmember Denny recognizes Mr. Ovrom‟s experience with budgeting but she really
wanted to commend City staff for bringing in a balanced budget for the first time and not having
an operating deficit in our budget. This shows good financial discipline and it is something that
is expected by the public for sure, especially in these financial times. If anyone can work budget
its budget, it is Coronado. She thanked staff for all their hard work.
Councilmember Downey has been on City Council for 6 ½ years and has lived in Coronado for
20 years. There was only one year in those entire 20 years that the City did not have a balanced
budget. She doesn‟t want the public to think that the City routinely approves a non balanced
budget. In the worst financial crisis that has hit the country since the Great Depression Coronado
had to go into reserves for less than $1 million and that is because the City budgets the right way.
We always assume expenses will be more and revenues will be less. Every time staff proves that
they can do it. She just wanted to commend staff and wants to make sure that the public knows
that Coronado does not routinely approve unbalanced budgets.
MSUC (Downey/Ovrom) moved that the City Council receive the interim financial
report for the year ending June 30, 2011.
Ms. Denny commented that in the two years she has been on Council neither budget has been
balanced. There have been operating deficits of $120,000 and then around $640,000. Obviously
she knows the public understands where she is coming from but she wanted to make it clear, on
the record that staff was very happy with their accomplishment of a balanced budget that was
passed this past year. She is very proud of staff too. She thinks this is a really good change
because financial discipline is necessary and having a negative budget to present to the people is
really not something that is expected in Coronado and it has been done routinely in the past.
Ms. Downey requested that Ms. Denny stop using the word „routinely.‟
MSUC (Downey/Ovrom) moved that the City Council call the question.
AYES: Denny, Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
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11d. Annual Review of the City Investment Policy and Approval of Clerical
Revisions for FY 2011-12. Leslie Suelter, Director of Administrative Services, introduced this
item and introduced Nancy Jones, Managing Director, and Sarah Meacham from PFM Asset
Management. PFM Asset Management advises the City on investments.
Mayor Tanaka asked for some clarification of an issue that came up earlier this year about using
commercial paper. He asked if the City has purchased any commercial paper.
Ms. Meacham replied that it is in the policy now. The City has not utilized commercial paper as
an investment for the portfolio because the City is currently utilizing LAIF, the State Investment
Pool run by the State Treasurer‟s Office and that pool has offered yields in excess of commercial
paper yields. It hasn‟t made sense as a short term alternative to LAIF at this time or in the past
year or so. When the time comes that it does, staff will present that investment recommendation
to the City‟s finance staff and they can choose to utilize it at that time.
Councilmember Denny referred to page 219 and 220 and the addition of Government Code
Section 53.600.3. Would this also be considered a clerical change because the cross outs seem a
little more specific than the code section? Taxpayers aren‟t losing anything in this change?
Ms. Jones explained that this is just a change in the standard of prudence. This is actually
tightening the standard.
Ms. Denny asked to replace the word „will‟ with „shall‟ on page 220. She had the same request
for „shall‟ to be substituted for „will‟ on page 221 where it says, “All brokers or investment
advisors dealing with the City will be required to disclose any fees paid or received in connection
with the purchase of said securities.” She thinks it would be stronger if that said “shall” also.
Still on page 221, under section 8, Authorized Financial Dealers and Institutions, it reads “Proof
of Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) certification, trading resolution, proof of
State of California registration, personal resume, certification of having read the City‟s
investment policy and depository contracts.” This is what any entity contracted with to help the
City with investing must provide to our treasurer. She noticed what is taken out is “National
Security Dealers certification” and she asked why.
Ms. Meacham explained that the National Security Dealers had a name change.
Ms. Denny referred to page 224, section 11 regarding diversification. It says, “The City will
diversify its investments by security type and institution. With the exception of U.S. Treasury
securities and authorized pools, not more than 33% of the market value of the City‟s total
investment portfolio will be invested in a single security, U.S. Government agency, or with a
single financial institution.” She asked why the words „market value of the‟ were added to the
paragraph.
Ms. Meacham responded that the words were added because the reports that they provide to the
City are based on market value and they just wanted it to be more specific.
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Ms. Denny pointed out that the taxpayer is not losing anything with this deminimus change. On
page 225, Section 14, Reporting, it reads, “The Treasurer is charged with the responsibility of
preparing a quarterly report to the City Council. This report will include quarterly performance,
a list of the current investments, and transactions which occurred during each month of the
quarter over the quarter.” Ms. Denny again suggested the use of the word „shall‟ in place of
„will‟. She feels that this is better reporting and she wanted to point that out for the public.
Ms. Meacham explained that quarterly performance is already being provided in the current
reports but they just, again, wanted to make it more specific. During each month of the quarter is
to address a government code issue and they feel this wording makes it more specific.
Ms. Denny turned to Section 15, Investment Policy Review, which reads, “When the City has
funds on deposit with the State or County Pool or other local government investment pools, the
Treasurer shall review annually the written investment policy of such pools. Documentation
shall also be reviewed…” She asked for examples of other local government investment pools.
Ms. Meacham explained that a county pool is considered a local government investment pool.
There are other pools such as the California Asset Management Program and Cal Trust which are
local government investment pools.
Councilmember Downey referred to page 219 of Attachment B. She confirmed for the rest of
the Council that this isn‟t a legal document. This is our City policy. No one signed anything tin
order to implement this document but the consultant worked with the City Treasurer to
implement this document. „Shall‟ is used because legal documents need the word shall. „Will‟ is
talking about policy.
Ms. Denny doesn‟t feel that anything that has been said requires a response.
MSUC (Woiwode/Downey) moved the staff recommendation that the City Council
review and approve the recommended changes to the investment
policy.
AYES: Denny, Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: None
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
11e. Consideration of Request from Councilmember Downey Regarding
Adoption of Revised City Council Policy #2, Request by Member of City Council or Mayor
to Place an Item on a City Council Agenda. Councilmember Downey explained the purpose
of her request. This came up a couple of weeks ago and it is just a clarification. Any Council
member has the right to put something on the agenda but this is an attempt to make sure that
what goes on the agenda is appropriate to go out for the public. This also makes it a little bit
easier for staff when they are putting together the Council packages to try to figure out what
should be in open session or closed session and it protects everyone else from one Council
member accidentally or intentionally waiving attorney client privilege. This makes clear two
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things. First, the question that the Council has dealt with off and on for the last couple of years
when someone wants to put something on the agenda is whether it should it be acted upon at that
meeting or does it come back on a future agenda so that the public has notice that it is a topic the
City Council will act on and to allow staff to prepare a report. The second thing is that this
allows the City Attorney to make sure that whatever is being put into the agenda packet should
be public knowledge and that there is not a waiver of attorney client privilege. Those are the two
goals intended with this amendment. The suggested policy changes were tweaked a little bit
based on recommendations from the City Manager. She is open to suggestions for improvement.
Mayor Tanaka has two small suggestions. On page 233, under item 2 it reads “…by any
member of the City Council or the Mayor.” He would suggest putting, “…by any member of the
City Council, including the Mayor.” In the same section, paragraph “a” begins with, “…The
single page request…” He would change that to “A single page request…” Otherwise he is
happy to support this.
Councilmember Woiwode also referred to paragraph “a”. He thinks the last sentence, “The
request need not be written in the ultimate legal form necessary to take action on the matter at the
next city council meeting.” It is not needed unless it somehow gives guidance to staff.
Mayor Tanaka would rather leave that sentence as is. It is meant for the five Council members
and they will understand the context.
Councilmember Denny understands, based on the earlier request to put this matter on the consent
agenda, that there is support to pass this change in the policy. She wants to go on record, and has
touched on it a little bit in various discussions here on City Council over the past two years, as
saying that there is one thing that she could support in the change, which would be the change in
the date from Wednesday to Tuesday. She always tries to find ways to agree with Council
members but she just can‟t agree with this. The original policy is, on its plain language, fine and
working very well and is 120 words. This new policy is 330 words and she thinks it really
represents why people complain about their government and mistrust their government and think
that their government is not working for them. This is a very tedious change and is completely
unnecessary. She referred to page 229 to show why she won‟t be supporting this. The first thing
was the background which says that Council Policy #2 was written to accommodate the diversity
of the City‟s citizens. That goal of accommodating the citizens, not the Council members, is not
served by this change in policy because it makes the access to government and transparency less
or weaker. She thinks the change violates the actual purpose of the policy. The second thing
mentioned on page 229 is that the current policy is ambiguous. It is not. It is in really plain
language, on its face, quite clear and subject to the best interpretation, for the most transparency,
for the people of Coronado. When it says that under the current policy there is no ability for the
City Attorney to ensure that the information is appropriate for an open session Council packet,
that is an untrue, not true, statement. There are really two fail safes that make sure that the things
that go on the open public agenda are something that can properly be on an agenda. She can‟t
speak to the time before she got on City Council but she can speak to the past two years she has
been on City Council and absolutely, positively nothing has gone on the open agenda that can‟t
be disclosed to the public. It might make some people uncomfortable that it is going on the
agenda but the goal is not the comfort or the political preservation of any one of us Council
members. The goal of the policy is to make sure that the people have direct access to their
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government and can get things on the agenda and actually acted upon by their government in a
reasonable time and in a reasonable fashion. The first fail safe to make sure that the things that
go on the agenda are proper and are not privileged would be the City Manager. Any city
manager that she can think of would most definitely know what is proper for the agenda and
what is not. In our City of Coronado the final say of what goes on the agenda is our City
Manager. It is not any one of the Council members. It is not the Mayor. It is the City Manager.
The second fail safe is the City Attorney. Her understanding is that, especially now, the City
Attorney has even more lead time to look at our agenda items as we put them on than she has had
in the past. That is something that is very good and should make the public feel good about that.
The system is working. It is not broken and it is a false argument to say that something might
get on the agenda that is privileged or that the people couldn‟t look at or that they are not
allowed to see because we have both the City Manager and the City Attorney who has been and
always will be looking to make sure what is put on the agenda is proper. In addition, City
Council members like herself will say to the City Manager, “Let‟s make sure this is proper for
the agenda.” She has said this in the past because she doesn‟t want to violate any privilege. She
thinks this is really an attack on our City Manager and City Attorney and their professionalism
by saying that something might get on the agenda that shouldn‟t be exposed to the public. That
is a misplaced attack. She is very sorry for that. She thinks they both have been doing an
excellent job of putting proper things on the agenda. Current Policy #2 states, “Generally, a
Staff report will not be prepared for the item.” This gives flexibility in the current policy that is
lacking in the new proposed policy because sometimes we just don‟t want to occupy our staff
time with reports when issues are so clear and can be decided on in a reasonable, timely fashion
here on City Council. The new proposed policy is too narrow and inflexible. For the
recommendation portion it says, “Policy #2 be rewritten to allow any council member to bring a
one page request that an item be placed on a FUTURE city council agenda for action.” This
makes her chuckle because you just have to go case by case with your issue. It is an artificial
attempt to narrow or to dumb down requests from Council that are put on the agenda by limiting
them and narrowing them onto the agenda and she would hate to hamper any of her colleagues
here or future council members to a one page report. It is unnecessarily narrow. It goes on to
say, “However City Council would not be able to take action until AFTER it has been agendized
at a subsequent meeting with a full staff report.” Just so the public knows what is going on she
always feels like sometimes the agenda item should be acted on in one step and sometimes it will
take two steps. It is more of a case by case decision with intelligent and professional council
members. She doesn‟t think we should take away the flexibility of deciding on an agenda item
in one step without a staff report, an onerous and burdensome staff report. In that regard the new
policy is too inflexible. Moving down it says, “This two tier voting procedure would 1) insure
no legally protected evidence would be introduced in open session…” Again this makes her
chuckle because this is a false argument. We already have two fail safes in the City Manager
and the City Attorney who ensure, in fact, that no legally protected evidence would ever be
introduced in open session.
Mayor Tanaka asked if Ms. Denny would yield the floor to take a question.
Ms. Denny refused to yield for a question. The proposed language continues, “…2) give
direction to staff to research an issue important to council and give options on costs/benefits…”
She is always a proponent of cost benefit analysis but the issue needn‟t be important to Council.
That is not the point. We don‟t need political cover in our policy. It should be important to the
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people of Coronado, not Council. She thinks that might have been a Freudian slip to say that
only issues important to Council be put on the agenda. It is incorrect. It needs to be important to
the people of Coronado. Our own personal tastes as elected officials don‟t dictate what goes on
the agenda. We need to have a working government for our City citizens. That is what is
important. She summarized by saying that she can‟t vote for the proposed policy. The reason is
because it is too narrow. It is too inflexible. It hampers and burdens staff. It ties the hands of
Council members who would like to put more than one page on their agenda item and she just
thinks that is overall less professional than the plain language policy we currently have. She
can‟t support it.
Councilmember Ovrom doesn‟t agree that the old policy is working fine. He considers it to be
ambiguous and it is necessary to change it. He brings history into this because as long as he has
been associated with the Council the intent that was followed by past Councils was simply to
place a relatively short description of what the Council person wanted the Council to discuss at
the next or some meeting beyond that. The answer was either a yes or a no. Having been the
recipient of some yeses and some no‟s that is the way it worked. The fact that this is being
abused for whatever purpose, the tightening of it so that what the requirement is here is that in
fact what a Council person or the Mayor puts on is simply a request to consider a subject and a
relatively short description of why. Then the Council can vote on that and say that they want
staff and attorney time. If the answer is “yes”, that gives staff an opportunity prepare a proper
report. If the Council says “no” it is not a waste of their time. Having been on both sides of that
argument he has no problem and he is in favor of changing this policy simply to tighten it down.
This clarification is the way he is used to these requests being handled and that is the way he
thinks the system was originally meant to work. Recently it hasn‟t been done that way and he
would like to go back to the way he thinks it should be.
MSC (Woiwode/Ovrom) moved that the City Council adopt the revised City
Council Policy #2 as requested by Councilmember Downey, with minor wording
clarifications on item 2 as provided by Mayor Tanaka and Councilmember Woiwode.
Ms. Downey wanted to clarify a couple of things. There are two issues. One is exactly what Mr.
Ovrom said. She was just trying to make sure it was clear on the record how this all worked.
Also, she thinks there is a misconception. If there is something important to the City it is the
City Manager‟s job and City staff‟s job to bring it to the Council‟s attention. This specific City
Council policy is in the off chance that they have missed something and that a Council member
finds some issue based on dealings with constituents. It is not regarding a matter of urgency
where the only way something can get done or something be protected is if a Council member
must rush in and get it done immediately. If it is a very urgent matter, the City Manager can put
it on the agenda any time he wants to. He doesn‟t need to wait two weeks. As a matter of fact
he can call an emergency session if he needs to. The amendment to the policy does not cause a
delay in serving the public; it only serves to clarify some things. Regarding the discussion of
transparency, everyone‟s favorite buzz word today, Ms. Downey wants to make clear that this
does not take away transparency at all. As a matter of fact, what it does is allow enough public
notice so that if there is an issue where the Council votes to expend City resources on, then the
public has a chance to get the information and get involved with time to do research and time to
come back and tell the Council if they care whether the City Council takes this issue up. If one
of the City Council members thought it was important but the City Manager or staff didn‟t,
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maybe the Council member is wrong and so maybe the public ought to have the opportunity to
weigh in. Those are the reasons she thinks this is important. She thinks this gives the right
amount of time for that to happen.
Ms. Denny wanted to go on the record again as saying transparency is not just a buzz word. It is
and always was a requirement of city government and while, in the past, it has been very popular
and bandied about from time to time it is very serious and the idea of making the city
government more transparent to the public and more accessible to the public has always been a
legal requirement. It has just been talked about lately as a buzz word but it has always, always
been there and it is our duty to provide transparency to the people of Coronado.
AYES: Downey, Ovrom, Woiwode, Tanaka
NAYS: Denny
ABSTAINING: None
ABSENT: None
12. CITY ATTORNEY: No report.
13. COMMUNICATIONS - WRITTEN: None.
The City Council recessed to Closed Session at 6:49 pm.
14. CLOSED SESSION:
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL -- EXISTING LITIGATION AUTHORITY: Government Code Section 54956.9(a)
NAME OF CASE: James Blinn v. City of Coronado
WCAB No.: ADJ7678591
b. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – INITIATION OF
LITIGATION AUTHORITY: Government Code Section 54956.9(c)
(1) One Potential Case
c. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – EXISTING LITIGATION
AUTHORITY: Government Code Section 54956.9(a)
NAMES OF CASES:
1. Mark Gosselin, Trustee of the Mark Gosselin Trust v. City of Coronado;
City Council of the City of Coronado
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2011-00083872-CU-WM-CTL
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2. City of Coronado v. Mark Gosselin, Trustee of the Mark Gosselin Trust
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2011-00089304-CU-OR-CTL
3. City of Coronado v. Ron Boucher, et al.
San Diego Superior Court Case No. 37-2011-00093957-CU-OR-CTL
15. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 7:07 p.m.
Approved: (Date), 2011
______________________________
Casey Tanaka, Mayor
City of Coronado
Attest:
______________________________
Linda K. Hascup, CMC
City Clerk
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