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Page 1: Real World Evidence in Europe - fgcasal.orgfgcasal.org/LibroRWD/Libro_RWD_Jesammy_Baird.pdf · Real World Evidence in Europe Jessamy Baird, RWE Director Madrid, 20th October 2014

Real World Evidence in Europe

Jessamy Baird, RWE Director

Madrid, 20th October 2014.

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BEFORE I BEGIN; DISCLAIMERS:

Dual perspective: Pharmaceutical: I work for Lilly, but this presentation represents my own views and opinions.

NHS healthcare: I also work for IOW NHS Trust as a Non-Executive Director (NED, designate) on the Trust Board. Views expressed here are my own

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CONTENT

• What is RWE, what it can (and cannot) do?

• Compare and contrast perspectives of the healthcare

provider and a company

• How Lilly is engaging in RWE

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WHAT IS RWE?

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WHAT IS RWE?

• RWD – is data collected in a non-interventional ‘real-world’ setting

(excludes Randomized Controlled Trials, pooled Analysis of RCTs,

Meta-analysis of RCTs, cost-effectiveness models)

Primary sources of RWD • Prospective patient Registries • Prospective observational or

longitudinal cohort Studies • Pragmatic Clinical Trials • Patient and Caregiver Surveys • Hybrid Studies (e.g., retrospective

observational + survey)

Secondary sources of RWD: Retrospective databases/ patient

registries Electronic Medical Records Administrative claims records personal health records genetic and biomarker databanks Patient-derived data (via web-based or smart

technologies)

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THE ‘EVIDENCE EGG’:

RCTS REPRESENT THE HIGH QUALITY ‘YOLK’,

RWE THE CONTEXT ‘EGG WHITE’.

Secondary data sources

Observational studies

Pragmatic effectiveness

studies

Randomised Controlled

Trials Highest quality evidence

Lower quality evidence

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RWE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALREADY MANDATORY IN SOME

COUNTRIES, BECOMING MORE IMPORTANT ACROSS EU PRELIMINARY

Stakeholder Need for Real World Evidence

Essential Critical for access and maintenance

Low Never demanded or considered

Important Beneficial for product assessment and uptake

Low: Low quality / patchy RWD sources

High: Good quality integrated RWD sources

Availability of Real World Data

Nordics

Belgium Netherlands

Eastern

Europe

Portugal,

Greece

Switzerland,

Austria

France

Italy

Spain

Germany

Medium: some good sources with intention to develop further

▪ RWE is essential to maintain access in France, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Nordics

UK Australia

Canada

Korea

Japan

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WHAT RWE CAN DO

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QUESTIONS RWE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER ACROSS LIFECYCLE

? Burden and cost of illness – what is the healthcare need in the patient population?

? Which patient population should be studied in a clinical trial programme?

? What is being used in real life practice, drugs and doses for comparison?

? What endpoints are measured in real life, how to link to surrogate endpoints?

? Post-registration risk benefit profile (safety AND effectiveness)

? Is post authorisation/reimbursement utilisation appropriate,

? What is clinical effectiveness and resource use in real life patients?

? What is the longer term effectiveness data beyond regulatory pivotal trials

? How is the medicine used in complex chronic conditions, with multiple

therapeutic options and switches over time?

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HEALTHCARE PROVIDER AND PHARMA PERSPECTIVES

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LOCAL/REGIONAL HEALTHCARE CHALLENGES

• Large number of RWE data sources • Limited information access across different care providers • Poor data quality • Lack of clarity on patient consent • Diagnosis code needed for care pathways • Lack of funding or resources to support projects

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PHARMA CHALLENGES

• RWE cannot support changes or extensions to the regulatory marketing authorisation

• Comparative effectiveness is subject to selection bias • RWE studies may have a slower speed of recruitment and be

of less interest to clinical community (competition with RCTs) • The number of patients in the real world lead to unbalanced

arms in studies • RWE retrospective data sources may lack detailed clinical

information • Peer reviewed publication potential maybe more limited with

RWE research

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COMPARING PERSPECTIVES SUMMARY

Themes Healthcare system Pharmaceutical

Terminology Information / Patient healthcare records Real World Evidence

Objectives Integration of care and improved information across patient pathways

Evidence of the value of medicines on patient outcomes (efficacy and safety)

Resources Few dedicated resources, significant cost pressures within system

Growing RWE resource, essential investment to sustain market access

Perspective Local data, highly fragmented, little use of data outside care boundaries

Global or EU wide studies, challenge of implementing localised studies

Capability Lots of data, less evidence. Analytics focus on mandatory performance returns

Significant analytics and evidence development capabilities

Implementation Evidence shared is usually focussed upon safety and quality metrics

Dissemination to national payors, regulators, local providers and clinicians

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RWE IN LILLY

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LILLY USE OF RWE DATA SOURCES 2012/13:

1) Half studies prospective +

retrospective studies to provide primary sources of evidence required across EU

2) 91% of secondary data sources conducted in OUS were sources not held within Lilly + required locally negotiated agreements

3) A small proportion of secondary data source analyses could be done internally –but only one data source in UK CPRD

4%

44% 52%

Secondary (DataMart)

Secondary (Outsourced)

Primary

n = 147 studies 2012-2013*

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VARIED TYPES OF EXTERNAL RWE

PARTNERSHIPS AND AGREEMENTS

1. Data broker vendor agreements – for example, work with IMS to

identify external data source

2. Work with approved research group/vendor to sub-contract with

local clinical or academic groups, supporting analysis and resource

3. Mutual research collaboration/ partnership – a shared contract

between Lilly and government or academic group on shared research

interested, with shared level of resource and commitment

4. Corporate ‘sponsorship’ – fees paid to be member of steering

committee and receive reports on registry, no impact upon the data

collected

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PARTNERSHIP AND SHARED GOALS?

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HOW CAN WE USE RWE TOGETHER TO

MEET EU HEALTH SYSTEM NEEDS?

• Core interest is disease and treatment pathways, not medicines

• Extension of evidence beyond RCTs conducted in other countries to your country

• Early Access to Medicine Schemes (EAMS)/ Conditional or adaptive licensing

• Coverage with evidence development to support patient access

• Managed entry or risk sharing schemes to support reimbursement and budget

• Registry data to support guidelines and clinical practice

• Evidence to support reimbursement authorities on which treatments provide value

to population and the healthcare system

• Identification of variety or inequity of treatment patterns across different regions

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?QUESTIONS?