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JordanMaxwell:TheTakeoverofPlanetEarthLosAngeles,California,September2008

[Ednote:NormallythetranscriptsthathadanypartsinthemthathadbeendifficultforthetranscriberstohearwereputinaudiblesinsquarebracketsinredforBillRyantoattendto,fix,thenhedpostthetranscript;however,duetounexpectedinterruptionsinthenormalworkingprocessinProjectCamelot,thisnormalprocesswasnotabletoproceedforward,sotheaudibleswereleftinthesquarebrackets.]

Introduction:

Allyouneedtodoisjustgooutanddoyourjobandhavefunandwatchyourbasketballandstayoutofthewayoftheadultsthatruntheworld.Ineverboughtthat.

***Nothinginthisworldnothingworksthewayyouthinkitdoes.


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Theresalwaysmoretothestory.

***ButthereasonwhyImheredoingwhatImdoingisbecauseofthismutationwhichisbeingfoistedonthehumanraceitsbeingforcedonthehumanrace.ThischangethattheMastersoftheUniverse,sotospeak,haveinmindforthehumanraceisbeingfoistedonus.

AndIbelieve,againjustmyopinion,thatmypartinthiscosmicschemeorthiscosmicplayistocallpeoplebacktotheirhumanityandletthemknow:Yourebeingleaddownthegardenpathintosomethingyoudontknowwhatscoming.

***Youknow,Icantstanditwhenpeoplesaythatthisisallhightechnologyofourgovernment.No.Idontbuythatforaminute.WhatIveseenwithmyowneyes,Idontbuyitforaminute.Ifithastodowithourgovernment,thenwhatIhaveactuallywitnessedwithmyowneyes,ifithastodowiththeU.S.government,thenitmeansthattheU.S.governmentisinleaguewithextraterrestrials,becausewhatIsawisextraterrestrialinorigin.

***ButIamtotallyconvincedthatthereisnowontheEarthagain,forlackofabettertermalienpresencewhicharetheenemiesof

thehumanrace,andtheyareobviouslyenemiesofwhoevertheoriginalCreatorsofusbecauseofthethingsIvebeentold,thatthepeople,ortheentitieswhocreatedus,thegodswhocreatedus,haveenemiesoutthereintheuniverse.

***SomethingIwanttosayaboutSpielberg...Ihavemany,many,manyfriendsintheindustryandIalreadyknowbecauseIvebeentoldthatvirtuallyallthemajornamesinHollywoodknowwhoIam.Theyshould!Ivebeentalkingfor48years,andtheyreusingallmystuffnow,sotheyshouldknowme.

***SoImsayingthatIamtotallyconvincedbeyondashadowofadoubt,formyself,thattherearesuchthingsasreptilealiens,thoughIhaveneverseenone,thankGod.ButItotallybelievetheyreherenotbecauseofDavidIcke,notbecauseofCredoMutwawhoIlovelisteningto;awonderful,fascinatingman.DavidIckehasdonegreatstuff.ButIbelievetherearereptilealiensherebecauseofmyownpersonalresearch.

Beawarethatthereisawarforyoursoul.

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Interviewbegins:

KERRYCASSIDY(KC):JordanMaxwell,Imveryexcitedtobeherewithyoutoday.BillRyanandI--ImKerryCassidyfromProjectCamelot--couldntbemorethrilledtohavethishonorofinterviewingyou.

Youreoneofthepreeminentresearchers;youvebeenonthesceneforover40years.IthinkyourereallyresponsibleforDavidIckeandZechariaSitchin,andnumerousotherscomingtothefore,talking


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aboutsecretsocieties,theIlluminati,andreally,ThePowersThatBebehindthescenes.

Theresjustnodoubtthateveryone,Hoagland,younameit,evenWilcock--everyoneowesyouagreatTHANKYOUforbringingthissubject-mattertothefore,andforyouramazinglydiligentresearchinthisarea.

Youreanamazingmind.Yourereallyanationaltreasure,ifyoudontmindmysayingso,hereinAmerica,andIknowyouvebeennoticedoverseasinthatrespectaswell.So,whatdoyouhavetosayforyourself?Canyougiveabetterintroductionthanthat?

JORDANMAXWELL(JM):IwouldsaythatyouarebeingverygenerousandverykindandIappreciateallyourwords,butIviewmyselfasjustanordinarypersonjustdoingwhatIlovetodo,andthatistolookbehindthescenesofworldevents,howthingsreallywork.AndIstarteddoingthiskindofresearchdiligently.

Igrewup,andevenasachild,spendingmostofmytimeinthelibrary.Whilealltheotherkidswereoutplaying,Iwassittinginlibraries.SoIvealwaysbeeninterestedtoknowthingsthatother

peopledontseemtoevenknowexist.Ivealwaysbeeninterestedinthesecretsideoflife,allofthehiddenthingsintheworldthatmostpeoplearenotevenawareof.Imjustfascinatedwithhowmuchthereistoknowthatmostpeopledontevenknowexists.

AndsoIgrewupthinkingthatway,andbythetimeIwas19yearsold,whenIendedupinLosAngeles,IdecidedtodedicatemywholelifetostudyingwhatIwouldcalltheworldoftheoccult.Thewordoccultsimplymeanshidden.

Somuchofrealknowledgeandwisdomishiddenbecausethepeoplewhorunthisplanetfeelthattrueknowledgeandwisdomofhowtheworldreallyworksisknowledgethatyoudontneedtoknowallyouneed

todoisjustgooutanddoyourjobandhavefunandwatchyourbasketballandstayoutofthewayoftheadultsthatruntheworld.Ineverboughtthat.

WhenIwasachild,Iusedto,ofcourse,behappywhenmyfamilywouldhaveotherfamiliescomingovertovisitbecausetheywouldbringtheirchildrenandIdhavekidstoplaywith.Butafterdinner,thewomenwouldalwaysendupinagroupandtheyretalkingwomentalk,andmydadandhisbrothersandwhoeverelsewasthere,allthemen,wouldgointhefrontroomandsmokethecigarsandhavethewineandtalkmentalk.

Andso,mydadandmyunclesespeciallywouldalwayssay:Well,youkidsgoonoutandplayball,andIwouldtellmyunclebecausedadsbrotherswerewonderful;IlovedthemallandsoIwouldtellmyuncles:Idontwanttogooutandplayball.Iwanttohearwhatyouguysaretalkingabout,becauseImassumingifyouwantmetogooutandplayballthatyouregoingtobetalkingaboutsomethingthatyoudontwantmetohear.Imrealcurioustohearwhatyouwanttotalkaboutthatyoudontwantmetohearabout.


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KC:Andyouusedtosaythattothem,Iassume.

JM:Yeah.

KC:Yeah.Soyouwereincrediblyprecocious.

JM:Andsothen,whattheywoulddoismyuncleandmydadwouldsay:Well,wellgooutandplay,too,youknow,actinglike:Okay,wedontneedtotalkaboutanything.

Andofcourse,allthekidswouldnowwanttogooutbecausemydadandmyunclesaregoingtobeplayingwithus.Sowewouldallgoouttoplayballbecausenowtheadultswerewithus.Andofcourse,abouttenminutesintothegame,mydadwouldgettiredbecauseheworksallday,sohestiredandthatkindofstory.Sohecomesin,andthenmyunclesafewminuteslaterwouldcomein,butnowthekidsareallplayingball,sonowwerehappy.

Iseethattoday.ThePresidentoftheUnitedStatesgoestotheopeningballgame.Hethrowsoutthefirstball.ThatsDaddythrowingoutthefirstballforallthekidstobethere,andallthekidsare

watchingtheirsillyballgames.Andthenofcoursetheywouldshootintotheaudienceoftheballgamesandyouseethemoviestarsandbignamepoliticianstherewatchingthegame.

AndIdthink:Youknow,Iknowwhatthatis.Itsjusttheguyswhoarerunningtheplanetwantallthepoorpeopleallthekidstoknowthatweadultswhoarerunningtheworld,werehumanlikeyou;weliketocomeouttothebasketballgameandseetheballgames.

Itkindofmakeseveryonefeelkindofhappythatournationalleadersandourmoviestarsarelikeustheylovetheballgames,too.I

neverfellforthat.Iknowwhatsgoingon.Theseguyscouldntcareless,butitsjustpolitics.Itsjust,youknow,gooutandletthepeopleseethatyouarehumanlikeeveryoneelse.Ineverboughtit.

Iwantedtoknowaboutwhattheseguysweretalkingabout,twooclockinthemorningwheneveryoneelseisasleep.Thatswhentheseguystalk.

KC:Absolutely.Canyoupossiblyfeelcomfortableenoughtosharewhatyousharedwithuslastnight,aboutthemeetingwiththatveryspecialperson?Theone...

JM:Iknowwhatyouresaying.Imjusttryingtothink:AmI

comfortabletalkingaboutit?

KC:Iunderstand.

JM:Well,letmegoon,first,andlaysomemorefoundation.

KC:Allright.

JM:Soitdidnttakemeverylongtofigureoutthatsomuchofwhatisgoingon,humansarenotbeingtold.Wearenotbeingtoldthereal


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truth.

AcoupleofthingsinparticularIwantyoutoknow,andIwantyoutoremember.Nothinginthisworldnothingworksthewayyouthinkitdoes.Theresalwaysmoretothestory.

Youhearaboutsomemarriagebreakingupandthehusbanddidthis,thewifedidthat,anditsveryobviouswhathappened.No,itsnotobviouswhathappened.Theresalotmoretothestoryyoudontknow.Youdontknowherbackground,herpast.Youdontknowhispast.Youdontknowwhatwasgoingoninthefamily.Youhavenoidea.Sonothingissimple.Thisiswhyyouhavecourts.

SoIfoundthatnothinginthisworldoperatesthewayyouthinkitdoes.Banksdonotloanmoney.Governmentsarenotempoweredtoprotectyou.Policedepartmentisnottheretoserveyou.Institutionsofhigherlearningcollegesandeducationalinstitutesarenottheretoeducateyou.

TheentiresuperstructureofcivilizationintheWesternworldisa

combinationofbrilliantlyput-togetherandwell-plannedschemestodirectthemindsofthepeopleinsuchawayastoservetheirmasters.AndIveknownthatforalongtime.

OneofthebiggesttoolsinthehandsofthemasterswhorunthisworldisHollywood.Hollywoodisanincrediblestory.

Ivesaidthis,andmaybemanyhearingmenowhaveheardmesaythis,butIllsayitagainthatthewhitemansestablishmentcomesfromEurope.Andnorthern,southern...well,allfour:north,east,southandwesternEurope,evenatthetimeoftheRomanEmpireandbefore,thatwholesectionofEuropethatwecallthecenterforthewhitemanspresenceontheEarthwasquiteliterallyruledoverancient

EuropewasruledoverbyapriesthoodcalledtheDruids.

TheDruidsweretheministers,thepriests,thejudges,thelawyers;theywerethereligiousleaders.

SoitwaspriesthoodthatdominatedEurope.Itstilldoes.EuropeisstillaDruidiccountry,andAmericaisaDruidiccountry.UnlessyouunderstandtheDruidicsystem,thenyourenevergoingtofigureoutwhatsgoingoninAmericaandEngland.

OneofthemostimportantsymbolsintheDruidsystemwasamagicwand,likeMerlintheMagicianwithamagicwand?Andalso,theorchestraleadersandconductorsalwayshaveamagicwandandyouhad

betterplaytothetuneofthemaster.Hedirectsyoutoplayandhedirectsyoutostopwiththemagicwand,soyouredancingtohismusic.Okay?

MagicwandswerealwaysmadeoutofthewoodofaHollytree.ItsmadeoutofHollywood.HollywoodisaDruidicestablishmentandthesymbols,thewords,theterms,thestories,aredesigned.

Thinkaboutit.ThinkabouthowHollywooddoeswhattheydo.Imnotsayingtheyreevil,ImjustexplaininghowHollywoodworks.


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Youhave,firstofall,astory,sosomebodyhastowritethestory.Allright?Sonowyouvegotastory.Nowyouhavetogiveittoascreenwriter,whosgoingtoadaptthatstoryintoascreenplaybecauseyoucantjusttellthestory,youhavetodesignittobeamovie.

Nowonceyoudothat,thenyouregoingtohavetohiretheactorsveryimportant:actors--becauseyouregoingtoneedpeopletoactthepart.Itdoesntmeanthattheyactuallyhavehumanfeelings.No,no,theyrebeingpaidtoactliketheycare,toactliketheylovesomeone.Itsanact.

Andsoyoupayactorstoactoutthepartthatthescreenwritershavewritten,andyouwanttomakesuretheactorsdoitjustright,soyouhavetohaveadirectorandhesgoingtodirecteverythingyousayanddothewayhewantsitsaid.

Thenyouhave,ofcourse,theproducerandhesalsosubjectedtotheexecutiveproducerwhosproducingthemoney,andsoallofthisisawholesystemofputtingtogetherasystemofastorythattellsyouastory.Itcausesyoutothinkintermsofwhatyoujustsaw,sothatpeoplegooutfromthemovieandthinkintheirminds:Thisistheway

younormallywouldreacttoasituation,thewaythattheguyinthemoviedid.

AndsothatswhytodayintheWesterncivilization,especiallyintheWest,ourabilitytoworkwitheachotherandlivetogetherashumansissoscrewedup,becausewevebeenwatchingsomuchtelevisionandsomanymoviesandsomuchsillinesscomingoutofHollywood;somuchviolence,andsex,anddrugs,andalltherestofit,thatpeoplehavenoideaintheworldhowtoliveanymore.Theyvelosttheirhumanity.

KC:Okay,soyouresayingthatinmanywaysHollywoodmoviesandtelevisionareactuallysortofdoingbehaviormodificationonpeople...

JM:Precisely.

KC:...togetthemtobehaveincertainways,tothinkissociallyacceptableandthenpeopleactuallygooutandtheyactthewaytheyresupposedtoact,ratherthanthewaytheyreallyfeelinanyhumansituation.

JM:Exactly.Precisely.

KC:Soitcementsthesocialstructure.

JM:Thatsit.

KC:Idounderstandthat.WouldyoualsotalkabouthowmoviesarerevealingtheIlluminatiagenda?

JM:OhGodyes!Whatastorythatis!Absolutely.Evenmoresothanyouknow,evenmoresothanyoususpect.


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Ihavebeenlookingatonesubjectfor,well,since1967.Letmeprefacethis:InGlendale,California,in1967IwasresearchingCommunismforalectureIwasgoingtogiveandIwenttoaWorldBookEncyclopediaandtherewasthepictureofthenationalcoatofarmsoftheSovietUnionandtheSovietflag.Thatwasin67.

Well,Istartedspeakingtosmall,littlegroupsin60,soforsevenyears,Idalreadybeentalkingtolittlemomandpopgroups,andlittlelibraryrooms,andlittlebookstores,andallthatkindofthing.Butitwasin67thatIcameacrossasymbolwhichwasthenationalcoatofarmsoftheSovietUnion.

IwasfamiliarbythattimewithaparticulartermthattheCommunistshaveused,theNazishaveused,theBritishhaveused,theAmericanshaveused,andsowhenIsawthissymbolandtheexplanationforthesymbolintheWorldBookEncyclopedia,itfinallyhitmethatsomethingisgoingon,onamassive,enormousscalearoundtheworld.

ForthefirsttimeIsawitintheSovietnationalcoatofarms,becauseitwasusingthesamewordsandtermsthatHitlerhadused,theNazishadused,thatthefascistshadusedinItaly.

AndnowasIbegantolook,thepeopleofIndiausedit;thegovernmentsaroundtheworldareusingthesamesymbol,soIknewthatIhadstumbleduponsomethingofprofoundsignificance.Ididntknowwhatitwas,butIalreadyknew,Ihadagutfeelingthatsomethingisreallybiggoingon,ontheEarth,andtheSovietnationalcoatofarmswaswhattriggeredmycatchingthat.

BILLRYAN(BR):Whenyoutalkedaboutthesymbolsthere,thatremindedmehowmuchofyourworkisabouttheinterpretationofsymbols.Somebodymentionedtomethatyouwereactuallythemodelfor

thesymbologistthatwasplayedbyTomHanksinthemovieTheDaVinciCode.Canyousayanythingaboutthat?Isittruethatthatwasbasedonyourworkandyourpersonalityandyourresearch?

JM:Well,Imnotinapositiontosayforsure,becauseImnotprivytohowtheycameupwithwhattheydidinthemovie.AllIwillsaythatisforsureandprovableisthatin1991,Ithinkitwas,IdidapresentationthatwasvideotapedinthePasadenaareaatabookstoreandthevideoisoutallovertheworld.ItscalledTheBasicSlidePresentation.

Inthatthatwasbackin1991,PasadenaIwasintroducedasan

expertonsecretsocietiesandoccultemblemsandsymbolsofreligionandgovernment.

Iwalkedupontothestage,anditwasaslidepresentationthatIwasdoing,andsoIhadtheslideprojectoron,andtheslidethatwasbeingprojectedonthescreenIleftitonevenbeforeIstartedjusttohaveapictureforpeopletoseewhentheycameinsotheslideprojectorwasalreadyon.Thepicturethatwasonthescreenwas


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thebackofthedollarbill,thepyramidonthebackofthedollarbill.WhenIwalkedupontotheplatform,Iwalkedinfrontofthescreen,sonowitwasbeingprojectedonme.

BR:Thatwasinthemovie.

JM:AndthenIstartedpointingtothesymbolsonthedollarbill[Kerrylaughs]andexplainingtheemblemsorwords.Thatsexactlythesamescenethatsinthemovie.

BR:Irememberit.Itwasverydramatic,ifyourecall.

JM:Yeah.GobackandgetmyBasicSlidePresentationbackin91anditsthesameidenticalthing.

BR:Imitationisthesincerestformofflattery.

JM:Right,Iguess.Ofcourse,Ididntgetacheckoranything.[laughs]Andthenofcoursein1992or93,somethinglikethat,IdidavideocalledMatrixofPowerinwhichItalkedabouthowtheworldisbeingmanipulatedbehindthescenesbyoccultormagicalsymbolsandwordsthataredeceivingcivilization,deceivingpeople.ThenlateronamoviecomesoutcalledMatrix.ButIvebeentalkingaboutthis,youknow,thissubjectformany,manyyearsbefore.

Now,onethingalotofpeopledonotknowisthatIwasgoingaround,itcanbetoldnow,butIwasgoingaroundtostudiosinthe70sandintheearly80s.Especiallyinthe70s,Iwasgoingaroundtoallthemotionpicturestudiosatnighttime.Working-classpeopleinthestudioswouldhavemecomeinanddoapresentationaslideprojector,justalittleMickeyMouseoperation,slideprojector,throwupascreen,andIwouldgivelecturesonBiblecodes,KnightsTemplars,secretsocieties,andthosekindofarcanesubjects.

ManytimesIwouldgivelectureslikethattojusttheworking-classpeopleofthestudioandthensometimeswewouldrentsomeoffice

withinthestudiolotwhereIcouldgoandsitandtalkwithabunchofpeoplewhowereworkingatthestudio.IwasjusthavingfuntalkingaboutthingsIenjoy.Youknow,theywouldorderbeerandpizza,wedsitandtalk,andIwoulddoatwo-orthree-hourslidepresentationonBiblecodes,secretsocieties.

In66,late66asIsaidbefore,IlearnedabouttheIlluminatiassuch,andsoIstartedgivinglecturesatthestudiosonIlluminati;MasonicOrders,boththeBritishGrandLodgeandtheAmericanFreemasonry;theFrenchandGermanOrders,andtyingthemallintothesecretsocietiesthatoperatearoundtheglobe--andalsoincorporatinginthoselectures,asIsaid,inthe70s,thesubject

ofIlluminati,whichIhadgottenfromAnthonyHildersrecordsthatwereputoutin1966.

AndsotodayIsee,youknow,ontelevision,onHistoryChannel,andallkindsofmoviesfromHollywoodtalkingaboutIlluminati.

BR:Thisactuallycomesfromyourresearch.Itspercolateditselfdownintothepopularculture.

JM:WellImean,ifyoujustkeeptalkingfor48years,somebodys


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goingtofinallyhearyousomewhere.[laughs]

KC:Well,itsverypossiblethattheywereactuallyfilmingandtapingyouatthestudio.

JM:Well,Iknowtheydid.Actuallytheyweredoingit,butitwaslikeindividualswouldhavetheircamerasandwouldvideotapeandtheywouldaudiotape.

KC:Butevenbehindthescenes,therecouldhavebeenrecordinggoingon.

JM:Whoknows.

KC:Yeah.Imean,obviouslyalotofwhatyoutalkedabouthasshownupinplot-linesinscreenplays,andtheninmovies.

JM:Ohyeah.Absolutely.

KC:Somaybewecangobackagaintowhereyougotinvolved.YouweretalkingabouttheSovietCrestandmaybewecouldpickupthere.

JM:Yeah.Sothiswasin67.1967asIsaid,IminGlendale,California.IwasresearchingtheCommunistmovement,andsoIwenttotheWorldBookEncyclopediaandthereintheWorldBookEncyclopediawasapictureofthenationalcoalofarmsoftheSovietUnionandthecommunistflag.

Ialreadyunderstoodthesymbolsofthecommunistflag,butmyeyecaughtthatnationalcoatofarmsandIsawinthatsymbolsomethingIhadseentheNazisuse[and]allthegreatnationsoftheworldhave

used.AllthePresidentsoftheUnitedStatesintheirInauguralAddressesusedthesamewordsandterms.Allthesenatorsandcongressmen,whentheyrerunningforoffice,usethatsameterm,thatsamesymbol.

SoIknewIhadstumbleduponsomethingofprofoundsignificance.Ijustdidntknowwhatitmeant,butIknewitwasimportant.Thiswasin67.

Andso,since67Ihavebeenresearchingthisoneterm,thisonesymbol,andthemoreIfindonit,themoreImamazedathowmuchthereisoutthereonthisonesecretsymbolthatnobodyisawarethat

itsrightinfrontofyou.Itsoneofthoseincrediblyfantasticstoriesofsomethingthatissoawesomeinscopeanditssittingrightinfrontofyouandyouneversawit.Thatshowclevertheseguysare.

KC:Sowhatareyoutalkingabout?Weregoingtoputitonthescreen.Itstwomountainsandarisingsun.Isthatright?

JM:Right.


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KC:Sowhatarethewordsandwhatdoesthismean?

JM:But,lookit,justtobeabletoseeit,whichyouwillbeabletoputintothevideo,butjusttobeabletoseeitisnotsufficient.Youneedabout25or30yearsofresearchtounderstandthesignificanceofwhatyoureseeingandwhatitactuallymeans.Soyoullbeabletoshowitanditwillbesomethingofinterestthatpeoplewillpickupon,butbelieveme,theresabiggerstoryyet.

SowhenyourehearingthetermIlluminatiortheconceptsofsecretsocieties,occultordersandallthatkindofthing,itsactuallymuchbiggerthanyouthink.Thereissomethingfarbiggergoingon,ontheEarththatmostpeoplearenotawareof.

KC:Okay.Therisingsun.Arewetalkingabouttherisingsun?ArewetalkingabouttherisingoftheNewWorldOrder?

JM:Thatsright.Exactly.

KC:Werealsotalkingaboutsomethingelse,arentwe?

JM:Yes.Thatsright.Somethingverybig.

KC:Somethingmoreocculteventhanthat.

JM:SomethingthatgoesallthewaybackintoB.C.,backintotheancientworld.ZechariaSitchinandIhavetalkedaboutthis.AtonetimeIwasinbusinesswithZechariaSitchin.Ihelpedsendhimtodifferentcountriesandweweregoingtodoatelevision,a13-weekmini-specialIwasgoingtodowithZach.

ZechariaSitchinhasbeenmydearfriend,andabrilliantman,andIwassoimpressedwithhim[that]Italkedhimintosigningacontractwithmetodoa13-weekmini-seriesfortelevision.Unfortunately,the

attorneysandthepeoplewhowerefinancingtheprojectforme,atthelastminute,afterwehadalreadyshotlikefivedifferentcountriesandwewerealmostthrough,theypulledtheplugonthewholeproject.SoitwasntZachsfault,itwasntmyfault.Itwasthepeoplefinancingit,theyfaltered.

ButIvehadalotofopportunitiestotalktoZechariaaboutthingsthatIminterestedin,andIvelearnedalottalkingtohiminprivate,whichwill,unfortunately,havetostayprivate.

KC:Okay.Soyourenotabletotellanythingaboutsomethingthathetoldyouthatwasactuallyverysignificant.JM:No,itsjustthatthesymbolImtalkingaboutisonthenationalcoatofarmsoftheSovietUnion,soIwouldsayanyonewhosinterestedinthis,lookatthesymbolsonthenationalcoatofarmsandstudyit.Dontjustlookatit,butlookatalltheimplicationsofitandthenfollowtheotherspicturesthatIhave,thatIwillgiveyou.Eachonesastepcloser,andanotherstepclosertoit,anditkeepsgoing.Ithinktheresaboutsixorsevenpictures.


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KC:Okay.ButitalsolinksupwiththeJapanese,theuseoftheredsun;alsothesunthatwasinObamasInaugurationinthebackground.

JM:Exactly.

DAVIDWILCOCK(DW):WhataboutinPittsburgh?TheG-20summit?Itslikeagrid?

JM:Iknow.

DW:Thatsthesamething.

KC:ButisnttheresomeoccultsignificancetotheSunitself?

JM:Ofcoursethereis.

KC:AndarewetalkingaboutsomethingtodowiththeAnunnakiaswell,andtheiragenda?

JM:Yes,yes,absolutely.Thatsexactlywhatitsabout.ThereisahiddenagendathatsbeeninoperationonthisEarthforthousandsofyears.Andsee,ImatadisadvantagebecauseImtryingtoexplainsomethingtoanaudiencewhohavenotbeenwhereIvebeenandseenwhatIhave,andsoImhavingadifficultytryingtolegitimizewhat

ImsayingifyouhaventseenwhatIveseen,andso...

KC:Okay.Well,thatspartofthepurposeoftheinterview.Imean,weareCamelot,wehavealotofbackgroundinformationalreadyonoursite,asyouknow,andsoinmanywaysthepeoplethatarewatchingthis,theyllhavebeenalreadyeducated,iftheywerenttobeginwith,byCamelot,bytheotherpeoplethathavecomebeforeyou.

JM:Iunderstand.

KC:ButIthinkitsverysignificantthatweretalkingnowandIthinkthatwhatwevetouchedonhereislike,thisisthebeginning

ofarevealingthatmostpeoplearenotawareof.

JM:Yes.

KC:Andobviouslyyouvegotthatstory.Okay?

JM:Itellyou,nomatterhowwellpreparedandhowwell-readyouare,Iwillguaranteeyouyouvenotheardthisstory.

KC:Okay.

JM:Ihaveastorynoonesheard,andIvebeenlookingatitforsome...since67,soweretalkingabout,howmanyyearsisthat?67

to2007?Thatswhat,40years?

KC:Yes.

JM:Yeah.

KC:Yeah.Absolutely.Andwhendidyouactuallystumbleonthefinal...Ifeellikeinasenseyouhavethefullmeaningofitatthisstage.Ithinkthatperhapsyouhavethatfullmeaning,soImaskingyou,inasense,whendidyouarrivethere?Howmanyyearsago


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didyouactuallygettothe...

JM:Ithinkprobablysomewhereinthemid90sitbegantoreallydawnonme.

KC:Okay,yeah,anddawnhassomethingtodowithit.

JM:Thatsright.

KC:Werealsotalkingabout

JM:Weretalkingaboutanancient,ancientstorythathasbeen...

KC:TheGoldenDawn.WeretalkingabouttheGoldenDawnandtheinformationthere.

JM:Absolutely.

KC:Butwhat...?

JM:Muchfurtherback.TheGoldenDawnwasjustonemorestepinacontinuingflowofaparticularidea,andasitmovesintothelastdaysoftheworldthatwerelivingin,werenowenteringintoanewdispensationIchoosethattermdispensationoftimeinwhichthis

symbolisgoingtobeeverywhere.

KC:Okay.

JM:And[sighs]Iwouldliketobeabletogivelikeatwo-and-a-halftothree-hourpresentationjustonthisonesymbol.

ArathersuccessfulmotionpictureproducerandIweretalkingaboutdoingamovie.AfterIgavehimsomeoftheinformation,hecalledit,LetscallthemovieTheSymbol,andthenwetalkedaboutitandsaid:Well,maybeTheHiddenSymbol.Ihavethecontractandheresthe

moviethatwewanttodoandwellcallitTheSymbolorTheHiddenSymbol.

Thatnevergotdone,forallkindsofreasons.ButthenIseethenewmoviecomingoutwithDanBrown,TheHiddenSymbol?

AndImthinking:Theseguyswhoaresmart,intelligentandHollywood,theyareeitherknowledgeableonthissymbolandarereleasingitslowlybutsurely,ORtheressomekindofanunderstandinggoingonthatpeoplearestartingtolookatsymbolsmorenowandbeginningtoputthepiecestogether,likeIvebeendoingfor48years,andnowtheyarebeginningtoperceivewhatImtalkingabout.Buttheyhaventgotthereyet.

Andsoitsaformofprofessionaljealousy.IwouldliketobetheonethatpresentsmyworkbeforeWarnerBrothersgetsaholdofitfromsomebodyelse.

KC:Exactly.Imean,heresyouropportunity.Soanythingyouholdbackatthispoint,Imean,reallyyoudosoatyourownrisk,inasense.


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JM:Iunderstand.

KC:BecausethisisanopportunityandwearereallycomingclosetothejunctureImean2012andbeyondwherethisagendaisreallycomingtothefore.

JM:Iknowanditsjustincredible,watchingit.

KC:Itsamazingthatyouvebeenwatchingthisthingwithfullawarenessaseachstep,eachroll-out...

JM:For40yearsIvebeenwatchingitcoming.

KC:Andso,takeusdownthepath.

JM:AllthePresidentsoftheUnitedStatesallofthemhaveusedthesameterms,fromGeorgeWashington.ThetermsheusedandthethingshesaidweretakendirectlyfromtheancientprehistoricworldoftheAnunnaki,theancientgods,fromtheancientSumerians,Babylonians,Phoenician-Canaanites,ancientGreece,ancientRome.Theyalltheusedthesamewordandthesameterm.

KC:Okay,whatistheterm?Whataretheterms?

JM:ThetermisTheDawnoftheNewDay.AndtheconceptofTheDawnofaNewDayistheSunrisingbetweentwomountains.

ThisgoesbacktothebeginningofChristianityinthe4thcenturywhenConstantinecodifiedthereligioncalledChristianity.Christianityisnothingmorethan...Inmyopinion,Christianityisthemostpopularrenditionoftheancientcultstory,thisancientthingthatforthousandsofyearshasbeenhiddenfrompeople,butthemastersoftheworld,thekingsandrulers,haveallunderstood.

Christianityistellingyouthesamestory,butyoudontseeit,so

peoplearefixatedonJesusandonhisministryandneverforamomentsuspectthattheentirestoryisthesameancientstorythatsbeentoldbysomanyancientculturesandistodaypartoftheNewWorldOrder,Illuminati,MasonicOrdersaroundtheEarth.

TheentiresuperstructureofWesterncivilizationhasboughtintothismostancientstory,neverrealizingforamomentwhattheyredoing.

KC:Okay.Ihavesomecluesalongthelinesofthis,andIhavetosayyourereallytalkingabouttheriseoftheSonofAnu[Anubis].

JM:Exactly.

KC:IdontknowifitsMarduk,butitsOrion,thesonofOrion.Canyoutellus?

JM:Nowyouregettingclose.Thatsright.

KC:Okay.Thisishimcomingback,actually,tositonthethroneandtoruletheworld.


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JM:Mmhm.

KC:Andsomaybeyoucansortofstarttopaintthatpicture.Now,ishecominginacraft?

JM:Well,dontknow.Maybe.Iwouldnotbeabitsurprisediftheyrealreadyhere,justwaiting.

KC:Okay.

JM:Theydonthavetocome,theyrealreadyhere.ThatswhatStevenSpielbergsaidinhisWaroftheWorlds.Theyrenotcoming;theyrealreadyhereandtheypoppedupfromoutunderthestreet.SymbolicallywhatHollywoodandStevenSpielbergaresaying:Theyrerightunderyourfeet.Theyrerightunderthesurface.

KC:Well,accordingtoBobDean,theyrewalkingthehallsofthePentagon.

JM:Iwouldntbeabitsurprised.Yeah.

KC:Sowecertainlyhavewitnesstestimonyinthatarea.

JM:Imgoingtodoapresentationonthisverysoon.Ialreadyhaveabouta3-hourpresentationallreadytogothatIwanttoexplainit.

KC:Okay,butthisrulercomingtokindoftakecontrol,isthisapositivethinginyourvieworanegativething?

JM:Ithinknegative.

KC:Okay.

JM:Ithinkverynegative,butthewholeworldissuckingitup.Theyloveit,neverrealizingthefullimplicationsofwhatsbeingsaid.

ItslikesomekidsgoingintoHollywood,youknow,leavinghomeandtheyregoingtoHollywood.Theyregoingtobeinthemotionpicturecapitaloftheworld,neverrealizingthatonthestreetsofHollywoodandthiscityisnotsomeplaceforaninnocentkid.Youregettingyourselfinvolvedwithsomethingyouhavenoideaintheworldhowbaditreallyis.

IthinkthatsomanypeoplehaveboughtintothedifferentreligionsordersJehovahsWitnesses,Christadelphia,WorldwideChurchofGod[andthe]MormonChurch.Allofthesearepartandparcelofalargerworldmovementthatsbeenplannedforalongtime.

Andwheretheworld,especiallyintheWesternworld,ImtalkingmostlyintheWesternworldbecausetheArabicworldisalsoheavilyinvolvedinthis,butthatsadifferentsubject.Butforthemoment,WesternCivilizationisjustgoingoverthewallwiththisthing.Everybodyhasboughtintoit.Youreseeingitinpolitics...


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Ithinkthattherearethingswhichdoevolve.AndImnottalkingaboutmancomingfrommonkeysbecause,obviously,mandidnotcomefrommonkeys--manisevolvingintomonkeys.[Kerrylaughs]Andso,thatstheproblem.Thereisaplaceforevolution,butthatsnotwhatImtalkingabout.

Thisancientstory,comingfromtheancientandprehistoricworld,hasdominatedalltheculturesoftheworld.Whatthatimplies,Ibelieve,istheresgoingtobesomekindofamutationofthehumanraceinordertotakethehumanfamilyontheEarthtoanewstyleoflifeintheuniverse.

Andso,whatwillbelostwillbeyourhumanity,yourabilitytoshowloveandkindnesstootherpeople.Therewillbenoroomforthat.Emotionstherewillbenoroomforemotions.TherewillbenoroomfortheAmericansystemoffreedom,liberty,andjusticeforall.Thatsgone.Thatsout.Therewillbenomorefreedom,liberty,andjusticeforall.Nomorefamilylove,nomorehumanity,manreactingtoman.No.Allofthatsgoingtobegone.

KC:Arentyoualsosaying,though,thatthereisaraceofhumansbeing...actuallythatthisisntgoingtostartinthefuture,that

itsalreadystarted.

JM:Ohyeah.Itsalreadystarted.

KC:Thepreparation,thegeneticmodificationofthehuman,actually,behindthescenes.

JM:Yes.Youknow,intheBookofGenesisintheBible,theOldTestamentinGenesis18,the18thchapter--Ididavideoonthis--ittalksaboutAbrahamandSarah,theprophetAbraham.ItsaysthatthreemeninGenesis18;gobacktoreadityourselfitsaysthatthreemencomewalkingupintothecamp.

Abrahamwentoutandgreetedthethreemenandaskedthemtostayfordinnerandtheysaidno,theywereontheirwaytootherbusinessanddidnothavetimetostop.ItsaysthatAbrahaminsistedthattheystayatleasttohavesomethingtoeatandthentheycouldgo,andtheyagreed,sotheysaid:Allright,makeitquick,wellstayforsomething.

AndsotheBiblesaysinGenesis18thatSarah,hiswife,fixeddinnerforthem,theysatunderatree,haddinnerwithAbraham.Thenitsaysafterdinner,twoofthemengotupandlefttogoonabouttheir

business,buttheonethatstayedwastheAbsoluteCreatorGod,theonewhohadcreatedthehumancreature.HesatwithAbraham,havingdinnerunderthetree,andthengavepropheciestoAbrahamandthengotupandleft.NowthatsinGenesis18.

Firstofall,myquestionis:Waitaminute.ItsaystherewerethreemenandthethreemencomeupandhaddinnerwithAbraham.

AndtheninGenesis19,thefollowingchapter,itsaysthatthosetwomenwhohadgottenupearlierandleftwerethetwoangelsthatwent


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intoSodomandGomorrah.ItsaysthatwhenthesetwoangelsormenwentintoSodomandGomorrah,thehomosexualssawtheseguys,thesetwomen,andthoughtthattheywereabsolutelyhandsome,beautiful,good-lookingmen,andtheyattractedthehomosexuals.GoreaditinGenesis19.

Butthattellsme,ifthosewerethesametwomenthatwerewithAbrahamhavingdinner,thescripturesaidtheywereabsolutelyhandsome,good-looking,handsomemenandGodtheCreatorisstillsittingunderthetreewithAbrahamhavingdinner.AnditsaysGODinallcapitalletters.TheCreatorofthehumanraceistherewithAbraham.

SoImjustsayingthatImsurethattherearespiritualinterpretationsofallthis,butIthinkthereisalegitimacyaboutthestorythatwhenwereadinGenesiswhereGodwalkedwithAdamandEveinthecooloftheevening,thewordinHebrewGodwalkedwithAdamthatHebrewwordmeansyoucanhearafootstepsteppingonleaves,youcanhearthefootsteps.

ThatswhattheHebrewwordmeans.Sowepoeticallysay:Well,GodprobablywaswithAdamandEvespiritually.No,no.ThewordinHebrewsays:GodwalkedwithAdam.Youcanhearhisfootstepsontheleaves.

AllofthisimpliesintheOldTestamentthatwhoevercreateduslookedlikeusandthatswhythescripturessays,Godsays:Come,letusmakemaninourimageafterourlikeness.ThatsinGenesisOne;GenesisOneandTwo,both.

ManyyearsagoItalkedwithRabbiMarvinAntelman.RabbiMarvinAntelmanfromMassachusettswasadearfriendofmine.IthinkhesstillalivetodayintheKnessetinIsrael.ButheandIusedtotalklonghours,andIaskedhimonceaboutthatscripture:Come,letusmakemaninourimageafterourlikeness.

HesaidbothJewsandChristiansmisunderstandthatscripturebecause

theyglossoverittooquickly.MostpeoplethinkthatwhentheyreadthatscripturethatGodissaying:Come,letusmakeacreatureandwewillcallhimman.

Well,firstofallyougottaaskwhoisGodtalkingto?Himself?Hessayingcomeletus.Whosus?Sohesays:Come,letusmakemaninourimageafterourlikeness.

Hesaidno,thatsnotthewaytotranslateitcorrectly.HessayingthecorrectunderstandingisGodissayingtosomeone:Come,letusmakemaninourimage,afterourlikenessnotmakeman.No,no.Mansalreadyhere.Butcome,letusre-form,mutateman.Letusmake

maninourimage,afterourlikeness.AndlateroninGenesisitsays:Manhasnowbecomesasoneofus.Nowhelookslikeus.

Soifthatistrue,thenthatmeanstodayandIamtotallyconvincedthatthisisthecasewehaveentitiesherefromsomewhereelse;angels,gods,whateveryouwanttocallthem.ZechariaSitchincalledthemAnunnaki.

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formsherewholooklikehumansandyettheyrenotfullyhuman.

AndofcourseinGenesisweretoldthattheresaworldofdifference.WeunderstandintheBookofGenesistheresaworldofdifferencebetweenanangelandtheSonsofGod.SonsofGodarenotangelsandangelsarenotSonsofGodtotallydifferentconcept.Totallydifferentwords.

SonsofGodarespiritentitiesorentitiesfromsomewherewholookandhavephysicalbodiesandlooklikehumans.TheyarecalledSonsofGod,whileangelsarespiritentities.

SoweretoldintheBible,againgoingbacktoGenesis,thattheSonsofGodweremessingaroundwithwomenandgotthempregnant.Well,IkindoffiguredthattheseSonsofGod,theirplumbingworkedthesameway,sotherefore,theycouldgetwomenpregnant.AndIcannotimagineawomanbeingtalkedintobedbysomehideouscreaturefromanotherworld,butIcanseeitifitsahandsome,good-lookingman.Well,thatswhattheBiblesaid,eventhehomosexualssaidtheywerebeautiful,handsomemen.

AllofthisImbringingoutasBiblicalreferenceformyconclusion,thatIthinkZechariaSitchinisright.Ithinkotherpeoplewhohavewrittenaboutthissamesubjectareright,thatthereareinfactentitiesherelifeformsherethathavecomeherefromsomewhereelse.Maybetheyweretheoriginals,andtheyaretoday,inmyhumbleopinion,thepeoplewhoarerunningthisplanet.Itwouldnotsurprisemeabit.

KC:ArethesetheNephilim?

JM:Idontknow.TheycouldbetheNephilimbecausenotalltheNephilimdiedatTheFlood.AlotofChristianswilltellyouallthe

NephilimdiedintheFlood.No,thatsnotwhattheBiblesays.ItsaysthattherewasoneoftheNephilimlivedthroughTheFlood.HisnamewasOgofBashan.OgofBashanwasoneoftheNephilimandhelivedthroughTheFloodandcouldreproduceandreproducemorelikehimself.

WeknowthattherehavebeenskeletonsfoundwaydownintheEartharoundtheworldthatarefarbiggerthanwehumansaretoday.Someofthemare16feetlong,someofthem20feetlong,12feetlong.SoImsurethattherehavebeenextraterrestrial,forlackofabetterterm,extraterrestriallifeformswhohavecomeherewhowelooklikethem.

Theydontlooklikeus.Theycreatedusintheirimageandlikeness.

KC:Okaybutthisnewsortofruler,istheSun[and/orSon]ofGod.Right?Hesgoingtoberuling,inotherwords,betweenthesetwomountains.NowImwonderingwhatthemountainsaresymbolizing.

JM:Yeah.Verygood.

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goingtorisebetweenthosetwomountains?Orarewetalkingaboutplanets?

JM:Ithinkthatweretalkingaboutsomethingdeeper,theimplicationsbeingthatinalloftheancientworldtherewasalwaysaconcept,andtheologiesofalltheancientculturesoftheworldusedit,oftwintowers,twinthings,twinchurches,twintowers.ThatswhythatwholethingaboutinNewYork,twintowers?

Thatisin-your-faceifyouunderstandthesymbolismoftwintowersintheRomanEmpire,andtheGrecianempire,inSumeria,Babylonia.EspeciallyinEgypttheyalwayshadthetwoobelisks.Theyalwayshadthetwotowers,always.Sothereisaverypowerfulsignificancetotheconceptoftwintowers,veryimportantsymbolism.

KC:Okay.SowevegottwinsandwevegotbasicallyGemini,andhowdoesthatworkin?Arewetalkingabout,Idontknow,whenthisso-calledgodwasborn?Arewetalkingabouttheconstellationwhenhisrulewillbegin?

JM:Ithinkitwillprobablybewhenhecomesintopower,thiswillbehissymbol.Hissymbolwillbethesunrisingbetweenthemountains

oftheEast.ZechariaSitchintalksaboutthat.

ManyofthebooksontheancientMiddleEasternreligionshavepicturesofShamash;theHebrewgodisShamash,meaningtheSunrisingbetweenthemountainsoftheEast.Thatgoesallthewaybacktothecuneiformpictures,theclaypicturesfromSumeriaandBabyloniaorfromIraq,picturesofthegodrisingbetweentwomountains.Again,itsverydifficultformetomakethisintelligentlyunderstood,becauseIdonthavethepictures,anditwouldtakemeaboutthreehourstolaythefoundationforthis.

KC:Iunderstand.

JM:SoImjustgivingyousomebriefglimpsesintowhatImgoingtobedoingsoononthisvideo.

KC:Okay.Isthisruler...arewetalkingaboutMarduk?OrisMardukalreadyhereandthisissomebodywhoscomingafterhim?

JM:Imnotsureaboutthat.

KC:Okay.

JM:ButagainIwouldsayitallboilsdowntoonethinginmymind

thatthehumanraceontheEarthisbeingprepared,slowlybutsurely,inascientificmethodbeingappliedtothehumanracetomutatethehumanrace,tochangeusfrombeingwhatwearetodaytoacreaturethattheGodshaveinmind,mutatingagain.BecauseiftheBibleiscorrect,ifZechariaSitchinscorrectandalltheotherwritersonthesubjectarecorrect...

BR:Thisisarealdetectivestoryhere.Imontheedgeofmyseat,thinking:Wow,arewetalkingaboutthereturnoftheAnunnaki?Is


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thisconnectedwiththeChristianmythofaSecondComing?

JM:Thatsright.

KC:Thisparticularvideoisnotreallyfor,youknow,peoplethatarejustcomingtothesubject.Thisactuallyisforpeoplewhohave...

JM:Acursoryunderstandingofallthis.

KC:...abackgroundanddounderstandandhavepossiblyreadSitchinswork,forexample,andareuptospeedwithevenDavidIckesworkandourwork.

JM:Right.

BR:Andwhomayhavebeenfollowingyouformanyyearsbecauseinrecentinterviews,forexample,onCoasttoCoastforexample,youhintedheavilythattherearethingswhichyouarenotreadytosayyet.

JM:Yes.

BR:Andalotofpeoplewillbewatchingthis,wonderingwhetherthis

isthetimeandyouvechosentotellall.

JM:Yeah.Thatstrue.Yeah.

KC:Whatwehaveestablishedhereisthatthereisaverypredominantsymbolandyouvetalkedabouthowitspermeatedeveryaspectoflifeandreligionandthatpeoplearereallynotuptospeedonwhatitreallymeansforthehumanrace.

JM:Absolutely.Thatsright.

KC:Andthisissortofastunningrevelationformanypeoplethatarelisteningtothis.ButIwouldliketosay,whatweareseeingrightnowisaroll-outofanIlluminatiagendathatinvolvespopulationreduction.WhatImcuriousiswhetherornotyoucantalkabouthowthisagendatodowiththeSon[and/orSun]comingtothethroneoftheworld,ifindeedthistranspires,thecreationofanewraceofhumans...

JM:Right.

KC:...andhowpopulationreductionfoldsintothat.

JM:Well,Ithinkifyouregoingtohaveawholenewraceofhumans;

theyarecultured.Thatswhywerefertodifferentracesofpeopleasculturesandacultureissomethingunderamicroscope,youknow;itslikeabacteria.AndsothatswhatweareontheEarthweareaculture.Andsomebodyhasactuallyputushereasaculture,andiswatchingusgrow,andwehavebecomeadisease,becausewerekillingeverythinginourpath.

AndsoIthinkthatwhoeveritisthathascreatedushadcreatedus,Ibelieve,possiblyalreadyknewthatinthefarfuture,oncethisraceisfinallybroughtuptospeed,andthenwecanmoveitintothe


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nextplateau.ThisiswhattheNazisweretalkingabout.ThisiswhatWernhervonBraunwastalkingabout.TheNaziswerebigonthissubjectandusingthesymbolandthetermthatImtalkingabout,thesymbolbetweenthemountainsoftheEast.

Englandinterestingaboutthis,isEnglandhasalwayshadafixationonEgypt.EnglandsbigonEgypt.GototheBritishMuseumandallthesedifferentmuseums.TheEnglishwerealwaysbigonEgypt,buttheGermanswerenot.

TheGermanswerealwaysbigonIraq.ThatswhatGermanywasinterestedinBabylon.Andthereasonwhy,Ithink,isbecausetheNazisandtheGermanpeopleingeneral,oratleasttheintelligentsiaoftheGermanestablishment,realizedthisstorythatImtryingtoexplainhastodowithBabylon.IthastodowithIraq.AndIbelievethatmaybeoneofthereasonswhytheU.S.isinIraqtoday.

KC:Absolutely.

JM:Ithassomethingtodowithsome...andIknowthisistruebecauseIcanprovethatthesymbolswhicharebeingusedbytheU.S.governmenttodayinIraqisexactlythesamesymbolsthatIwas

tellingyouaboutthatcomesfromtheAnunnaki,fromthePhoenician-Canaanites,theAssyrians,thePhoenicians,ancientGreece,ancientRome,ancientBritannia,intoAmerica.

TheentiresuperstructureofcivilizationhasbeenusingthesamewordsandtermsandsymbolsthataretodaydominatinginIraq,butmostpeopledontevenknow.Theydontevenseeit.

KC:Iunderstand.

JM:Itshiddeninplainsight.

KC:Okay,butthereisastargateinIraqthatsfairlywellknownthatSaddamHussein...apparentlytheyhadtogetridofhimbecausehehadfounditandwasabletocontrolitwhilehewasinpower.

JM:Yeah.

KC:SoinessencetheU.S.isnever...ItsbeenmytheorythattheU.S.isnevergoingtoleaveIraqbecausebasicallytheyhavetomanthatstargate.Theyhavetohavecontrolofthatstargate,whichiswhereitissaidtheAnunnakiwillreturn,throughthatstargate.Haveyouheardthattheory?

JM:Wellyeah,Ihave.Absolutely.AndoneofmyfavoritespeakersonthatsubjectisWilliamHenry.WilliamandIhavebeenaroundtheworldtogether,wenttoEgypttogether.Wetalkedalongtimeaboutstargates.Iunderstandthestory.Ididntsayanythingaboutstargates.ThatsWilliamHenrysworkthatinfluencedmeinthatdirection.ButIamawarethatHollywoodistalkingaboutstargatesandmakingmoviesaboutit.

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weekendseminarsinwhichthethreeofusspoketogetherbackinPhiladelphia,andIhadsometimetositandtalkwithPrestonNichols.Incidentally,IamhighlyimpressedwithPrestonNichols.

KC:Okay.

JM:Youhavetobehighlyimpressedwiththatmanwhenyousitandtalkwithhimbecauseheisavery,veryinterestingman.HesgotalotofverygoodinformationonthekindofthingImtalkingaboutinprivatewithhimandhewasenlighteningmetosomeofthethingsImseeingandsaying.

KC:ButhesheavilyinvolvedintheMontaukstory.

JM:Absolutely.

KC:AndthePhiladelphiaExperimentbeingtheearlyprecursorofthat,andthenalsotimetravel,whichiswhereMontaukwasheaded.

JM:Exactly.

KC:Andthenyougetintothestargatesandsoon.AndthishassomethingtodowithlettinginImtheorizinghere,soIwantyoutohelpmebutmyunderstandingwiththeMontaukProjectwasthat

thereweresomeopeningsmadein,notjustthetimeline,butalsoinspace,sotospeak,wherecertainraceswereabletocomeinthroughanopendoor,basically,thatwascreatedbytheMontaukProject.

JM:Yeah.

KC:Imwonderingifthathastodowiththegeneticengineeringofourplanet,suchthattheywerecomingintodoajob.

JM:Well,yeah,Ithinkallofthathassomevalidity.Idontknowthatmuchaboutthestargateitselfconcept.Iunderstandit,butImean,thatsnotmysubject,butitplaysintomysubject,itspartofit,anditmustbeimportantbecauseHollywoodsmakingmovies

aboutitallthetime.TheyactuallyhavetelevisionshowsStargate.SoImsuretheressomethingverylegitimateabouttheconcept.

AllImsayingisthatwhenIwastalkingandspenttwoweekendswithAlBielekandPrestonNicholsandmyself,IwasveryimpressedwithbothAlBielekandPrestonNicholsbecause,inmyopinion,sittingwiththemforhoursonendandworkingwiththemovertheweekend;bothofthemareextremelyinteresting,provocativepeople.IwashavingfundownloadingallthisstufftoPrestonandhessaying:Yeah,wellheressomethingelseyoudidntsee.[Kerrylaughs]Andso,Ihavethehighestregardforhim.

KC:Thatswonderfultohear,actually,becauseIdothinkthereis

greatvaliditythereandsomeveryimportantclues.

JM:IthinkPrestonNicholsisabsolutelysensational.Iloveeverything,Iloved...Hewassuchagraciousperson,helpful,kind,courteous,andbrillianttositandtalkwith,soIlovePrestonNichols.

KC:Ihearyou.Now,whataboutZechariaSitchin?WhenhetalksabouttheAnunnaki,therewasagroupoftheAnunnakithatwenttoMars,


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thatleftthisplanet.Andactuallysomeofwhich,Iguess,camefromwherevertheAnunnakicamefrom,andneveractuallymadeithere.SotheresagroupthatkindofwentbacktoMarsandthensomethatcamefrom...accordingtoSitchin,Imsaying.

SowhatImwonderingis,whatwasgoingonwithMars?WeknowthatHoaglandhasgonedownthatroadquiteadistance,butIthinkthatyouvegivenhimmanyofthecluesandthebasisforhiswork.

Theressomethingtodowith...Now,Imnotanexpertonthis,butIdounderstandthatthepositioningoftheGreatPyramidandthesignificancewiththeassociationwithMars.Andthen,ofcourse,weretalkingaboutBabylon,andBabylonandMarsaresymbolsforthesamething.Isntthisright?AndtheWhoreofBabylon,andtheressomethinggoingonthere.

JM:Thatsright.ThatswhatImtalkingabout.

KC:Maybeyoucouldtalkaboutthatalittlebit,aboutMarsandthesignificancewiththeAnunnakiandwherethatmightbeleading.

JM:AndtheverywordCairo,asyouprobablyknow,CairomeansMars.

KC:Exactly.

JM:AnotherwordforMarsisCairo.

KC:Sowhatisgoingonwiththat?

JM:Yeah.ThatisasubjectwhichRichardisprobablybettersuitedtotalkaboutthanI,becauseIreallyhaventlookedatMarsoverandabovethegeneralkindofstuffhetalksabout.ButItotallybelieveformyselfthatMarsisinhabited,andIdobelievethatthereareprobablyhumanslikeusthere.

QuitealongtimeagoIhadalongconversationinMesa,Arizona,with

VirgilArmstrongPostlethwaite.VirgilArmstrongandIsatinarestaurantinMesa,Arizona,manyyearsagoandtalkedaboutthepeoplewhoareonMars.

Virgilwasaguy,fromwhatIgather,wasthemanwhocameupwiththeideahewasamilitary/CIAoperativeandhestheguythatcameupwiththeideaforGreenBerets.Thatwashisidea,GreenBeret,andheworkedwiththeCIA.IlovedsittingandtalkingwithVirgilArmstrong.Buthebroughtoutinthatconversationhowthereweremanythousandsofpeople,ormore,likeushumanslikeusonMarsat

thattime.AndIwouldntbeabitsurprised.

KC:Whatyearwasthisthatyouweretalkingtohim?

JM:Thiswasprobablymid80s.

KC:Amazing.

JM:Iwouldsay85,86,87,somethinglikethat.


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KC:Okay.Wellthatdoesdovetailalsowithourexperiencewithourwitness,HenryDeacon.ArthurNeumannishisrealnameandhehascomeoutunderthatnamerecently,andsaidhesbeentoMars.SoImwonderingifyouhaveanyinformationthatscometoyouaboutjumpgates,aboutgoingbetweenplanets.

JM:Well,yesandno.TheonlythingIhaveofanyvalueissomeoneelseswork.Isatandtalkedwithhimandheisavery,veryknowledgeable,verylegitimately...heworkedfortheUnitedStatesNavalObservatory.HewasinchargeoftheNavalObservatory,andhejustpassedawayjustrecently.Buthiswebsiteissoextraordinary,thestuffhehasonthatwebsite,picturesofstrangethingsfoundonMarsandtheyrenotnebulousthings;theyreinyourface.Imean,thosetubes,Plexiglastubes.

KC:Yes.Amazing.

JM:Andlightsinthosetubes.Theresjustanenormousamountofstuffhehasonhiswebsite.

KC:Well,ourattentionwasdrawntothatbyHenryDeaconaswell,tothosetubes,whichisfascinating.

JM:Yeah.Right.Youknow,IalwayssayImnottheworldsforemostauthorityonanything.Iftheresanyvalueinmypersonandmywork,Iwouldsaythis,thatIhavebeenprivilegedtobeinthecompanyofextraordinarypeopledoingextraordinarywork.Ihavebeenprivilegedtositintheircompanyandbeacceptedbythemandbeabletolearnthingsbehindthescenesthatotherpeoplewillneverbeprivytohear.

KC:Isntittrue,though,thatyouweretoldthatyouhaveamissionthatisgoingtocometotheforelateinlife?

JM:Yeah.

KC:Andthatyoumightactuallybetherenow?Doyouwanttotellthatstoryatall?

JM:Yeah,Isupposeso.Imentionedthis,Ithink,onCoasttoCoastonce,butitwasveryquickbecauseGeorgewantstohearallthestoriesaslongasitswithinaminuteandahalf.[laughs]

KC:[laughs]Wehavelongerthanthat.

JM:Yeah.[laughs]ButwhenIwas19,IendedupinLosAngelesat19yearsoldwithsevenbucksinmypocket,incidentally.IhadnoideawhereIwasgoing,whereIwas.IendedupinLosAngelesona

Fridaynightwithsevendollarsinmypocket.Youknow,Iwasastupidkid,butIlivedthroughit.

Lateron,acouplemonthslater,afterIgotajobandthingswereworkingoutforme,IwasinNorthHollywoodonemorning,onaweekendmorning,andIwentintoarestaurant.Theplacewascrowdedandtherewasonlyoneseatavailableandthatwasatthecounter,soIsatat


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thecounter.Therewasayounggirlsittingnexttome,sowestartedtalking.

CometofindoutsheonlylivedabouttwoblocksfrommeandIonlylivedabouttwoblocksfromtown,soshehadwalkeddowntownandIhadalso.Sowestartedhangingouttogether.Idmeetherdowntown;wedhangouttogether.Thiswasbackin59andIwas19yearsold.

Whenwewouldwalkhome,Ilivedtwoblockscloser,soshehadtwoblocksfarthertogo,soIneverknewexactlywhereshelived,butsheknewwhereIlived.Onenightshecameovertomyplaceandsaid:Mydadwantstoseeyou.Hewantstotalktoyou.

Andofcoursethatputmeonalert.ISAID:Idontwanttotalktoyourdad.

SHESAID:No,myfatherisaveryimportantandinterestingman.Hewantstotalktoyou.Hesgotsomethingtotellyou.

Thatsoundedinteresting,soIwentwithher,andwhenwewalkeduptothehousewhichwasonlyacoupleofblocksaway,wewalkeduptothe

house,justbychance,hehappenedtobecomingoutofthehouse.

ThemomentIsawhim,anincrediblefeelingcameovermeofsomekindofaeuphoric,strange[and]wonderfulfeelingthatIgot,beinginhispresence.ItwasasifIwereinthepresenceofagreatprophetorsomespiritualman.Ifeltit,andIlovedthefeeling.Imean,Icantdescribeit,butIlovedthefeeling.Itwasanother-worldfeeling.Inoticedthathewasverymuchincontrolofhimself;heknewexactlywhathewasdoing.

Hemotionedforustocomein.Wewentinandthegirlssatonthefloorbythefireplace.Theysatonthefloor.Hesatononeendofthesofa,Isatontheotherendofthesofa.Thewifewasinthe

kitchen.Ineverdidseeherthatwholenight.

Soweweretalkingandhewas,youknow,hewasaskingmehowIlikedlivinginCalifornia,anddoyouhaveajobandhowdoyoulikeyourjob,andjustsmalltalk.AndIwasbeginningtofeelalittleoftheapprehensionwasgoingaway.Iwasbeginningtofeelalittlebitbetterbeinginhiscompany,butIknewtherewassomethingaboutthisguythatwasntright,butIlovedthefeeling.

Im19yearsold,soImnotsurewhatImdoing,butImjusttalkingtothisguywhosdazzlingmewithhispresenceofmindandthepresencehepresented.

Andsoweretalkingaboutallkindsofthingsandthen,whenhefeltthatIwassufficientlyatease,hesaidtomeverynonchalantly,hesaid:RememberwhenyouwereeightyearsoldbackinFloridaandyourfatherbuiltthenewbackporchandyourunclehelpedhim?Andremember,yourdadusedgreenlumberthatsmelledfunny?Andhebuiltthenewbackporch?Yourememberthat?

Tearsstartedtocometomyeyes,andIdidntwanttoshowtearsinfrontofmygirlfriend,buthewasscaringmebecausehewasrightand


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heknewit.

ANDHESAIDTOME:Well,didthathappenordidntit?

ISAID:Yes,thathappened.

ANDHESAID:Also,onenightwhenyouwereinbed,yougotoutofbedandyouwentoutonthebackporchandyouwerelookingattheMoonandtheMoonwasfull.Doyourememberthat?

ANDISAID:Yes,Irememberthat.

ANDHESAID:Andyouwerepickingthewoodbecauseitsmelledfunny.Itwasgreenlumber;itsmelledfunny,andyouwerepickingitwithyourfinger.Rememberhowyoupickedapieceofit,andyouweresmellingitandtastingit?ANDHESAID:Rememberdoingthat?

ANDNOWIMREALLYSCAREDBECAUSEITSFRIGHTENINGTOMEANDISAID:Yes.

HESAID:Well,didyoudothat,ordidntyou?

ISAID:Yes,Idid.

ANDHESAID:Well,howwouldIknowthat?HowwouldIknowwhatyoudid?

ANDISAID:Idontknowhowyoudknow.

HESAID:Iknowbecausewewerethere.Youjustdidntseeus,butweweretherewatchingyou.

ANDITHOUGHT:Well...[laughs]

ANDHESAID,BECAUSEHECOULDTELLIWASNOTBUYINGIT:WasIcorrect

inwhatIsaid?

Yeah.

HESAID:Well,howwouldIknowifIwasntthere?Wewerethere.

ISAID:Whowaswe?

HESAID:Thatsnotimportantrightnow.WhatsimportantforyoutoknowisthatyoureinCalifornia,becausewebroughtyouhere.WebroughtyouheretoLosAngeles.

ISAID:Youbroughtmehere?

HESAID:Yeah.Whyareyouhere?

ISAID:IdontknowwhyImhere.IjusthadtocometoLosAngeles.

HESAID:Thatsright.Webroughtyouhere,hesaid,becausewhatdidyousaytoGod?YoutalkedtoGodthatnight.Thenightyousatonthe


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porch,yousaidsomethingtoGod.Whatdidyousay?

Ijustsatlookingathim.

HESAID:Illtellyouwhatyousaid.YouaskedGodtoletyoudosomethingimportantwithyourlife.Youwantedtodosomethingofvalueandimportancewithyourlife.

AndIwasabouteightornineyearsold,right?

ISAID:Yes,thatswhatIsaid.

HESAID:Well,thenweregoingtogiveyouanopportunitytodosomethingwithyourlifenowbecauseyoudidask.

Imstillamazed,listeningtohim.

ANDHESAID:Whatwehaveforyoutodowillnothappenuntilthelaterpartofyourlife,andImnotgoingtogointoitrightnow.

HESAID:Imnotgoingtogointoexplainingittoyounow;however,whenthetimecomesforyoutodowhatwehavebroughtyouheretodo--youwillknowwhatyouhavetodo.Bythattime,youwillbesufficientlyknowledgeableonwhoyouareandwhatyouredoingand

whereyouregoing.

ANDHESAID:Allyouneedtoknownowisthatwebroughtyouhereandthatwewillprotectyouwhereveritisthatweputyou.

ANDIASKEDHIM,ISAID:Istilldontunderstandwhatyouresaying.

HESAID:Youdontneedto,butoneday,youwillunderstand.

ANDHESAID:SoImheretostartyouonyourjourney.

HESAID:IhaveabookImgoingtogiveyouandIwantyoutoreadthebookandthatwillbeginyourjourney.

Andhepullsitofftheshelfandgivesittome,andtodayyoucanstillgetthatbookinbookstoresanywhere.ItscalledTheCompleteWorksofCharlesFort.[spellsname].

EveninEnglandtheresaForteanSocietydedicatedtotheworkofCharlesFort.Afascinatingbook.Itsamonumentalwork,verythickbook:TheCompleteWorksofCharlesFort.

Andheopenedthebookindiscriminately,justputhishandonthepages,becauseitsaverythickbook,andheopensapageandhe

readsaparagraph.Hejustopenedthepageandreadsaparagraphheknewexactlywhathewasdoing,preciselywhathewasdoing.Ididntknowbecauseitlookedlikehejustindiscriminatelyopenedit,andhereadaparagraphthatjustblewmeaway.Iwasknockedoutbywhathedjustread.ANDITHOUGHT:Wow!Thatsinteresting.

ANDHESAID:Ohyeah,thebookisfilledwiththatkindofthing.Letmereadyouanotherone.


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Heopeneditupagainandjustindiscriminatelyreadsomething.Notindiscriminately!Heknewwhathewasdoing.Imsurethatheknewhowtogetyourparticularattention.Whatwouldbeveryinterestingtoyou,Imaynotevensee.Butheknewhowtoplayonmyemotions,andhereadaboutthreelittleparagraphs,oneaftertheother,andeachonetomewasabsolutelymind-blowing.

Iwasfascinatedwithhim,withmynewgirlfriend,[laughs]andwiththisbook.ANDTHENHESAIDTOME:YouvealwaysbeeninterestedinUFOsandother-worldlythings,right?

ANDISAID:Yes,Ihave.

HESAID:WouldyouliketoseesomeUFOsupclosetonight?

ANDISAID:Idloveto.

HESAID:Wellcomeon.Icandothatforyou.

SoIgotupwithhim,andthetwogirlsmygirlfriendandhersisterthefourofuscameoutintheyard.ItwasaboutmaybemidnightinNorthHollywood,1959,andhelooksupintotheskyandstartsinaudiblytalking.Hismouthismovingasifhestalkingtosomebody,

butyoucanthearhim.

AndasImwatchinghimstandingtheretalkingtothestars,Ilookoveratmygirlfriendandsheslookingatme.ANDTHELOOKONHERFACEWASLIKE:Yeah,thisismyfather,thatshim.Toldyouhewasstrange,didntI?[laughs]Andthatkindofthing.

Andhersisterwaslookingatme,andIcouldtellwhatshewasdoing.SHEWASTRYINGTOFIGUREOUT:Howishetakingthis?Youknow,whatsgoingoninmymind?[was]whatthelittleonewasthinking,becauseshesseenthisbefore.ShewantstoseehowImgoingtoreacttothis.

ANDSOTENHELOOKSATMEANDHESAID:TheysaidthattheywillbecomingfromGriffithParkinjustaminute.TherellbethreeofthemandtheyllbecomingfromtheGriffithParkarea.Theyregoingnorthandtheysaidthattheyllbehereinaminuteforyou.

ANDISAID:Whosthey?

HESAID:Youllsee.

Withinacoupleofminutes,threebeautifuldisk-shapedthings,glowing,veryfaintlyglowing,cameoverwithnosoundwhatsoever,inatriangleformation,cameoverandstoppedrightaboveourheadsand

stopped.

Andwhentheydid,youcouldseetheyweredisk-shapedanditlookedandappearedlikeitwasapiecutinsixoreightslices,andeachslicewasadifferentcolor.WhatIrememberdistinctlyiseachcolorwaslikealasercolor:vibrantorange,vibrantpink,veryvibrantcolors,sixoreightcolorsoneachoneandtheywerecirculating,notsofastastoblendthecolor,butcirculating.Theywerebeautiful.TheywereaboutthesizethatthefullMoonappears,sotheyrenotlittlelights.Full-Moonsize.Three.


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AndImstandingtherelookingatthesegorgeous,beautiful,vibrant-colorthingsspinning,andcolors,andnosound,andIwasabsolutelymesmerized.Iwasjust...Iwasenthralledbyseeingthisgorgeous,beautifuldisplay.

ANDILOOKEDATHIMANDHESLOOKINGATMEANDHESAYS:Theyrepretty,arentthey?

ANDISAID:Yes.Theyrebeautiful.

ANDTHENHELOOKSUPANDTALKSTOTHEM.HESAID:Theyvetoldmetotellyouthattheyregoingnowbuttheyllseeyoulater.Andtheydid.Theystartedmovingandtheywentoutnorth.

AFTERWARDS,WEWENTBACKINANDISAID:WhatdidIjustseetonight?

HESAID:Thatwasus.Wevebeenhereforalongtime,youjustdidntknowit.HESAID:Wepickedyoualongtimeagowhenyouwereasmallchild.Wehavesomethingforyoutodo.

ANDISAID:Imnotunderstandingexactly.

HESAID:Youdonthaveto.Wewillletyouknowwhatitisyoure

supposedtodolateroninlife,butjustgoonwithyourlife,dontworryaboutit.Whateveryouresupposedtolearn,wellseetoitthatyoulearn,andwhenitistimeforyoudowhatwehaveforyoutodo,youllknow.Wellletyouknow.

Afterthat,Iwouldgooverthereontheweekendstovisithimandthemotherandthetwogirls,andwewouldgoouttothedesertsometimes,gowayoutinthedesert.Thegirls,withtheirmother,wouldgoforawalk,andheandIwouldwalkinthedesert,andhewouldtellme

aboutallthedifferentalienlifeformsthatareoutthere,wheretheyhavecomefrom,theonesthatarehere.

ANDHETOLDME:Youhaveenemieshere.Youhavesomeverypowerfulenemiesherefromotherplacesthathavecome,andtheyknowwhoyouare,andtheyknowwhatyouregoingtodo.Sojustbecarefulinyourlife,butwellprotectyou.

Ididntknowwhathewastalkingabout.

AndthenonedayIwentovertothehouseonemorning,andthehousewastotallyopen,andtheyregone.Everythingwaspackedandgoneand

thegirlnevertoldmeshewasleaving.Theydnevercometotellmeanything.Theywerejustgone.

NowthatIlookbackonthatexperience,Ifeelverysecureinsayingthatheknewwhathewasdoing.HESAID:Imstartingyouonyourjourney,andhedid.Butafterthatwasdone,thenhemoveson.

KC:Doyoubelievethatyoureatthatplace,thatjuncturewherehewastalkingabout:Youregoingtoknow...?Hasanothermessagecomerecently,ordoyoufeelthatyourerightonthecuspofsomething?


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JM:IfeelalongthebeginningofsomethingandImstillnotsurewhatallofthismeans.Imnotsurewhatitmeans.AllIknowisthatIhavesomevaluablestuffthatsgoingtoreallyknockpeopleoutwhentheyseeit,butIdontunderstanditfullyyet.IvetalkedwithZechariaaboutit.Ivetalkedwithmanyotherspeakersandpeoplethatareinthespeakingcircuitthatareknowledgeableonthesubject.

Butmygutfeeling...andincidentally,gut,G-U-T,issimplyGodinScandinavian.GODisEnglish,dogspelledbackwards.ButGodin,IthinkitsSwedenandScandinaviancountries,isspelledG-U-T.Sowhenyousayyouvegotagutfeeling,thatsGodinScandinavian.

ButmygutfeelingisthatIdontknowthefullpictureyet,butImgettingtherenow.After48years,Inowknowthatmy48yearsofstudy,dayinanddayout,researching,reading,studyinginlibraries,wasforareason,sothatwhenthetimewouldcome,IwouldatleastbesufficientlyeducatedinthisdarksubjectwhichImtalkingabout.AtleastIvegotsomebackgroundinitnow,tobeabletounderstandthesignificanceofit.

AndIthinkitsreallyfrighteningtome.Itactuallyisstillrather

frighteningbecause,beinghuman,andwatchingtheworld,whereitsgoing...andIalreadyknowthesymbols,thewords[and]theterms.Ialreadyknowthehistoryofthesecretsocietiesandthemovementsofthebankers.

Ivesatandtalkedwithallkindsofpeoplearoundtheworld;withHakim,mydearfriendHakim,theHammitepriestinEgypt--wevesatoutbythePyramidsatnightandtalkedabouttheancientHammitepriesthood,andIwasblessedinthePyramid.

HakimblessedmeintheKingsChamber;Ilaidinthesarcophagusandhedidawholeprayerritualoverme.Ivesat,likeIsaid,forhoursandtalkedwithhiminprivateaboutthingsthathavehappenedtome.

SoIamtotallyconvincedthattheresnothingspecialaboutme,butIhavebeengiventheopportunitytobeinthecompanyoffascinatingpeople,tolearnmonstrouslyfascinatingthings,andultimately,Ithinkthatthereissomethingformetodo.Imjustnotsureyetwhatitis.

KC:Doyouhappentohaveanideawhatracethismanwasfrom?Doyouhaveaplanet?Doyouhaveanyidea?Inotherwords,doyouthinkhewasAnunnaki,doyouthinkhewasNordic,doyouthinkhewasPleiadian?Doyouhaveanyidea?

JM:No,notreally,becauseheappearedtobeanextraordinarilyordinary-lookingguy,justanordinaryguyyouwouldmeet.ButwhenIwasinhispresence,itwasmonstrous--thefeeling.Iknew:Thisisnotanormalman.

KC:Didhischildrenhaveadifferentauraoradifferentfeelingaboutthem?

JM:No.No.Theyseemedtobeveryordinary,andthemother.


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KC:Butdidntyoutellmejustrecently,andcorrectmeifImwrong,butIthinkyouwereoutinthedesertandyouhadsomethinghappenoutthere.

JM:Oh!Yeah!

KC:Veryrecently.

JM:Ohyeah.Nono,thatsadifferentstory.

KC:Well,isitcompletelydifferent?Isitpossiblethattherewassomekindof...?

JM:Well...No,youreright.Youreright.Therecouldverywellbesomekindofaconnectionwithwhathappenedtomejustafewyearsagoandthatoriginalincidentbackin1959.Yes,verypossible.

Thatwasanotherextraordinaryexperience.Ivehad36,whatIcallpeakexperiences.Imeanmonstrousexperiences.Thatwasmerelyone.Butyes,Ivehadsomeveryinterestingandemotionally-drenchingexperiencesoutonthedesertsofNevada.

OnethingIwilltellyou,whichisjustmyopinion:IamtotallyconvincedformyselfthatatArea51,thatbasewecallArea51,there

isnodoubtinmymindthatthereareextraterrestriallifeformsthere.Nodoubtinmymindaboutitatall,becauseofwhatIvepersonallyseenandexperiencedwhenIwasatRachels.Ivehadtoomanystrangethingshappentomethatwereother-worldly,in-your-face,likeone-on-one.

AndsotheresnodoubtinmymindthatwhatIexperiencedoutthere...Wehadanaliencomeinthemobilehome.Myfriend,PaulTice,andmyladyfriendfromHawaii,Ivy--allthreeofus,analiencameinthebedroom.SotheresnodoubtinmymindtheressomethingreallyoffthewallgoingonoutthereatArea51thatwearenot

awareof.ButIvehadmanyotherworldexperiencesoutthere,notjust...

Youknow,Icantstanditwhenpeoplesaythatthisisallhightechnologyofourgovernment.No.Idontbuythatforaminute.WhatIveseenwithmyowneyes,Idontbuyitforaminute.Ifithasanythingtodowithourgovernment,thenwhatIhaveactuallywitnessedwithmyowneyes,ifithastodowiththeU.S.government,thenitmeansthattheU.S.governmentisinleaguewithextraterrestrials,becausewhatIsawisextraterrestrialinorigin.AndwhatIveexperienced...KC:Thankyouforthat.Thatsvery,veryvaluabletohearyousaythat.

Canyoutalkaboutthepossibilityofwhatthesehumansthatarebeingcreated,whattheirdestinymightbe?Inotherwords,yousaytheymightnothavefeelings,etcetera,etcetera.Anddoyoufeelthatperhapsthisisworkinginwithyour,sortof,destinythattheyweretalkingabout?

Becausethesesubjectsweretalkingaboutrighthereandnow...IactuallywenttoEgyptwithyouandWilliamHenryandthatgroup.Ididhaveashortinterviewwithyouatthattime.Youwerentwilling


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totalkaboutthatthen.Ithinkthatnowyouremuchmorewilling.Thismessagethatyouhaveseemstobeculminatinginwhatyouresaying,inthissymbolthatwetalkedaboutinthebeginningofthisinterview.Isitpossiblethatthisisgoingtobethemessage:theunfoldingofwhatyouknow?

JM:MyfeelingisthatthereasonwhyImheredoingwhatImdoingisbecauseofthismutationwhichisbeingfoistedonthehumanrace,itsbeingforcedonthehumanrace.ThischangethattheMastersoftheUniverse,sotospeak,haveinmindforthehumanraceisbeingfoistedonus.

AndIbelieveagain,justmyopinionthatthatsmypartinthiscosmicschemeorthiscosmicplay,istocallpeoplebacktotheirhumanityandletthemknow:Yourebeingleddownthegardenpathintosomethingyoudontknowwhatscoming.Youhadbettergetbacktoyourrootsofbeinghumanandstartreestablishingyourhumanitybecausethehumanraceislosingitshumanity.

Thewayweweredesignedbytheoriginalcreatorswasabeautifulthing.Imean,whenyoulookatchildrenandlittleanimals,youhavetoknowthatwhoeverdesignedusdesignedhumansandlifeformstobebeautiful,tobecharming,tobeabeautifulthing,toliveinabeautifulworldwithchildrenandgorgeousandbeautifulthingswhich

upliftthespirit.

ButIamtotallyconvincedthatthereisnowontheEarth,againforlackofabetterterm,alienpresencewhicharetheenemiesofthehumanrace,andtheyareobviouslyenemiesofwhoevertheoriginalcreatorsofus,becauseofthethingsIvebeentoldthatthepeopleortheentitieswhocreatedus,thegodswhocreatedus,haveenemiesoutthereintheuniverse.

Theyhavecomeheretoseewhatthesegodsaredoing,whatthesealiensaredoing.Andtheyrecomingheresaying:Mm.Iseewhattheyredoing.Theyrecreatingthesecreatures.Whydontwemovein?likeagang.Whydontwemoveinandtakeoverandtakethis

beautifulcreationthatthesegodshavecreatedandmutateitintowhatwewant?Andso,tomutatethewholehumanraceawayfromtheirnaturalevolutionofsocietyandhumanityintoawholenewkindofcivilization.

IthinkthatthatsprobablywhatImheretodo,istocallattentiontotheworldthatyourebeingmisledbysomeextraordinarilypowerful,occult,mystical,other-worldtechnologythatischangingtheevolutionofthehumanracefromwhatitwassupposedtobeinitscreation,asopposedtowherethedarkpowersoftheworldarenowleadingthehumanraceintoadifferentworld.Andwhattheyhaveinmindforus,youdontwanttoknow.

KC:Okay.

JM:Thepeoplewhoareinpowertodayinthiscountryandaroundtheworldhavesomethinginmindthatyouhavenoideaintheworldhowbaditsreallygoingtobe,becausetherewillbenolongeranyplaceforfreedom,intellectualfreedom,spiritualfreedom,liberty,justicenoneofthat.Itsgone.


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KC:Okay.Butyouareprotectedandyouvebeentoldthisoverandoveragain,andthispersonthatyoumetwaybackwhosortofstartedyouonyourjourneywasalsopartofaracethathasbeenvisitinghereandislookingoutforyou,inessence.Youvetoldatleastmesomepersonalstoriesinwhichyouwereprotectedtherewasreasonsyouweretoldtoleavearoomatacertainopportunemoment,andsoonandsoforth.

JM:Thatsright.AndIhavehadthathappentomeoverandoverandoveragain.

KC:Right.Sothatmeanstheresaforceforgood...

JM:ProfoundlydangerousthingshappeningandatthemomentIjustdidnotknow,walkedoutandsometerrible,dangerousthinghappened,andIneverevenheardaboutit.

KC:Sothereseemstobeaforceforgood,someWhiteHatsbehindthescenes...

JM:Yes.

KC:...someofwhomhaveactuallytalkedtoyoufacetoface,

protectedyou.Onethatpassedonrecentlycomestomind.

JM:Right.

KC:Thesepeoplewhomighthavebeenworkingbehindthescenes,eveninplacesthat,youknow,madethemappeartobeworkingforthedarkside,ifyouwill.

JM:Yeah,theestablishment.Butinpointoffact,theywereextremelypowerfulpeopleandveryhighplaced.

KC:Workingforthelight.

JM:Workingforthelight.ANDTHEYTOLDME:Weknowwhatyouredoing.ONEOFTHEMTOLDME:Youhavesomeverypowerfulfriendsthatyoudontevenknowexist,andtheyreprotectingyou.

Iknow.Ihavehadthe...Imnotgoingtogetintothedetails,butIhaveactuallywitnessedprotectionfromthehighestsourcesinthiscountrystepintosomethingthatwasvery,veryserioushappeninginrelationtome,andIwasreallyfrightened,becauseIknewtheimplicationsofwhatshappeningandtheycouldbeveryseriousforme.Imaynotbearoundmuchlonger,Iveheardfromthetop.

AndthenallofasuddenIgetacommunicationfromWashington,D.C.,fromthehighestofficethere,saying:Dontworryaboutit,wetook

careofit.Justgoonanddontworryaboutit.AndIwasamazedfromWashington,D.C.!Somebodythathighupcallsmeandsays:Dontworryaboutit.Justgoonaboutyourlife.Noonesgoingtobotheryou.Andtheydidnt.

Ivehadthishappenmany,manytimeswhensomethingveryserious...veryseriousthreatsagainstmylifeandagainstmywork.Igetaphonecallorsomeonewillwalkuptomeinapublicplaceandsay:Jordan,thatthingthatyouvebeenworriedaboutthelasttwoweeks?


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Yeah.

Wetookcareofit.Moveon.Dontworryaboutit.

Ithought:Well...Imean,Imstillhere,Imstillalive,[Kerrylaughs]soIknowthatIhavebeenprotected.Iknowthat.

KC:Absolutely.

DW:Wherewouldthetruthmovementbewithoutyou?Specifically,Zeitgeistisamoviethatwasinthetopfivemost-viewedonGoogleVideoforlikeayearatleastandIwouldliketheProjectCamelotviewerstobeapprisedofthesituationinregardstoyourinvolvementwithZeitgeistbecauseitseemslikeManagement,asIcallthem,putyouinapositioninwhichthewholeconspiracytheorymovementwouldntbeanywherenearwhatitisnowifitwasntforyourinfluence.

JM:Yes,Zeitgeistisatwo-hourmoviemadebyaguynamedPeterJosephinNewYork.Ididntknowanythingaboutit,butPeterJosephproducedatwo-hourvideoandthelastthatweheard...becauseonZeitgeistitwasoneofthefirsttimesGooglepulledthecounteroffofsomethingthatsonGoogleVideo?Usuallyitwouldhaveacounter,

howmanypeoplehaveseenthisvideo.Theypulledthecounter.Theypulledit,Ithinkitwasat28millionwhentheypulleditandthatwaslikeayear-and-a-halfago.

KC:Andthatsbasedallonyourwork,isntit?

JM:Allofitwasbasedonmywork.JeffRensehadPeterJoseph...andyoucangotomywebsite,www.Jordanmaxwell.com,andgototheaudio/videopage.OneofthefirstentriesisabigbannersayingZeitgeistInterview,anditsonlyaboutfiveminuteslong.

ButJeffRenseinterviewedPeterJosephaboutZeitgeistandtalkedabouthow,youknow,theypulledthecounterayear-and-a-halfagoat

28millionanditsprobablymorethan50millionnow.

BUTHESAID:Whydidyoumakethisvideo?

ANDHE[PeterJoseph]SAID:BecausethewholethingwasJordanMaxwellswork.Iwaslisteningtohim;IvebeenfollowinghisworkandIjustdecidedsincehehasntdoneanything,Iwill.

Soheputallofmyworktogetheronreligion,ancienttheology,theFederalReserve,banking,and9/11andallthatnonsense,andputitalltogetherintoatwo-hourvideocalledZeitgeist,whichIamtoldbypeople...

MyfriendsinHollywood(andIvelivedinHollywoodfor48years)myfriendshavesaidthatiftheyhad28millionandtheypulleditoffayearago;probablyseenby50millionthatsaverygoodshowinginHollywood!Ifyoucanget50millionpeoplewatchingsomethingthatrepresentsyou,thatsprettyheadystuffinHollywood.

KC:Absolutely.

JM:Ididntdoit.Ididntevenknowanythingaboutit.Butsince


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then,therehavebeenaboutsixotherprofessionally-presentedvideosdoneonmethatIhadnoidea.Peoplewouldcallandtellme:TheresanhourshowonyouinEngland;theresanhourshowonyouinFrance.

Germanyactuallycameover--theNationalGermanNetwork--cameover,anddidanhourprogramonme,andtheyhadArnoldSchwarzeneggerinit,andthewholethingwasinGerman.[Kerrylaughs]Istillhaveacopyofittheysentme.ItwasdoneinGermanonme.

KC:Iunderstand.Now,Idontknowifyourewillingtotalkaboutthis,butZechariaSitchinandyousatdownandyouaskedhimtotellyouasecret.Basedonallyourtimewithhim,thethingsthatyouhaddoneforhim,etcetera,etcetera,youbasicallysaid:TellmesomethingthatIdontknow.

JM:Yeah.

KC:Areyouwillingtotalkaboutthat?

JM:No.

KC:BecauseIthinkthatthatisacluethatpeoplewouldreallybenefitfromknowing.

JM:Yeah.IdontthinkIwanttotalkaboutthat.

KC:Okay.

JM:Because...

KC:DoyoufeelthatZechariawouldnotlikethatinformationoutthere?

JM:No.ItwasthatitwasaprivateconversationandwhenIasked

him...Because,likeIsaid,atonetimeIwasinbusinesswithZecharia.Ihadacontractwithhim,andsowewerebusinesspartners,andsoIfeltalittlebitmoreofaleewaytotalkwithZechariainprivate.SoIaskedhimonetimesomeverypersonalquestionsabouthisworkanditwasabsolutelymind-blowingandstaggering,thethingshewastellingme.

Andthen...Wellanyway,thenhetoldmesomethingsaboutmyselfandIwasamazed.Ineverheardsuchathing,thatwhathewasbeingtold,orwhereverhegotitfrom,hehadaviewonme,whoIamandwhatIm

doing.Butatthattimeweweretalking,itwasaprivateconversation,andIthinkitdbebetterjustleftprivate.

KC:Okay.Fine.

JM:AllIwillsayisthis:ZechariaSitchinisafascinatingmanandabrilliantwriter,andIloveeverythinghesdoing,andIlovetheman.HesaverydearfriendandIloveZechariaSitchin.Hesavery,verygentlemankindofguy,andso...Ilikethat.


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KC:Okay.Wouldyouclassifywhatyouvebeentalkingabout,inasense,asawarthatisgoingon,onaspirituallevel?

JM:Yes.Nodoubtaboutit.

KC:Fortheheartsandmindsofhumanity?

JM:Yes.Absolutely.ThereisaspiritualwargoingonrightnowandHollywoodsmakingmoviesaboutitWaroftheWorlds,StevenSpielberg.IvesaidsomanytimesthatStevenSpielbergandGeorgeLucasaremanythings,butstupidisnotoneofthem.[laughs]

StevenSpielbergistryingtotellyousomething.Inoneofhisinterviewsafewyearsback,Irememberhesaidthathedoesnot...StevenSpielbergsaid:Idontmakemoviestoentertain,necessarily;Imakemoviestocommentonimportantissuesoftheday.

AndlookingatSpielbergswork,whichisgenius...somethingIwanttosayaboutSpielberg:IvewatchedalotofproductionsandIvebeeninHollywoodforalongtime,48yearsIvelivedinNorthHollywoodandHollywood,andIhavemany,many,manyfriendsintheindustry.Ialreadyknow,becauseIvebeentold,thatvirtuallyallthemajornamesinHollywoodknowwhoIamandtheyshouldIve

beentalkingfor48years![laughs]Andtheyreusingallmystuffnow,sotheyshouldknowme.

ButStevenSpielbergisoneofthemostcleverpeopleIhaveeverwatchedapersonswork,becauseheputs...acoupleofthings.Oneis:hesasticklerforaccuracyoncostumesandtermsthatareused,soanytimeyouseeanythingthatSpielberghasmade,itsveryaccuratetheclothingthatwouldhavebeenworninthosedays,thewaythepeoplewouldhavetalked,itsveryaccuratelydone.Sohesasticklerforaccuracy.

ButthethingIreallyappreciateaboutStevenSpielbergisheputslittlethings,littlesmallthingsthatyouwouldneverseeifyoure

notlookingforit,thatarereallyamind-blower,aWow.Backthatup,andthatonescenewiththatoneperson,whattheysaid...hesamasteratdoingthat.Hesamasteratputtingpowerfulthingsinsomelittleinsignificantscene,soifyourenotwatching,youllnevergettoseetherealgeniusofStevenSpielberg.IlovewatchinghismoviesbecauseIknowwhatImlookingfor.

KC:Sohesusingsymbolism.

JM:Ohyeah!

KC:Alloverhismovies.

JM:Everywhere!AndGeorgeLucas,equal.GeorgeLucasisbrilliant,inmyopinion.HesaidhewasheavilyinfluencedbyJosephCampbell,thefamous...

KC:Yes.

JM:AndJosephCampbellwasanincrediblydearman.IjustlovedlisteningtoJosephCampbellexplainmythologiesandallthesymbolsoftheancientpeople.


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KC:Didyouknowhim?

JM:No,IneverhadachancetomeetJosephCampbell.

KC:WhataboutArthurC.Clarke?Didyoumeethim?

JM:No,IneverhadachancetomeetArthurC.Clarkeeither,butIwouldlovetohave.Ivehadopportunitiestobeinthecompanyofpeoplelikethat,butIwasnotinapositiontotravel,Ididnthavethemoney,Iwasinadepressedstateofmind,andsoIletsomeveryimportantpeoplegobythatIcouldhavebeenwith.

IusedtobeontheboardofdirectorsofanorganizationinHollywoodthiswasquiteafewyearsagocalledUSofA.USofAwasUnitedSensitivesofAmerica.ThisorganizationwasfoundedinBurbankandIcameinataveryearlyperiodandIendedupbeingontheboardofdirectorsofUSofA.Ireallydidnttakeawholelotofchargeinit.Themanwhostarteditprettymuchranit,butinwords,Iwasontheboardofdirectors.

Butanyway,itwasanorganizationwherenumerologists,astrologers,allkindsofesotericdisciplineswouldcometogetherandwewouldput

onshows,expos,andalsoonceayearwewouldputonanawardshowwherewewouldhonorcertainmoviestarsfortheirworkfeedingthepoororwhatever.

KC:Butwerentyoualsoinvolvedinmaybediscoveringmurdersuspects?

JM:Ohyeah.

KC:Andalsoocculthappeningsthatweregoingon.

JM:Everytwoweeks,Ithinkitwaslikeeverytwoweeks,wewouldmeetabout9:00intheeveningupintheHollywoodHillsfromthe

Hollywoodsign.Wewouldbeupthere,andtheredbeabout50peopleupthereinthisbig,hugehomethatwasownedbyamoviestarwhohadpassedaway.Itwasahuge,bighomeandthefrontroomwasjustenormousinsizeandtherewouldbelike50peoplethereeverytwoweeks.Therewouldbeagroupofastrologers,agroupofpsychics,agroupofnumerologists,thisgroupandthatgroup,andtheywerealldifferentdisciplinesintheesotericsciences.

AndwewouldhavethePoliceDepartmentortheSheriffsDepartmentusuallyitwasLAPDwouldcomeup,sheriffacoupleoftimestooandtheywouldcomeup.Wehadabigblackboardandtheywouldhavepicturesuponthewallofthecasethattheywantedustotalkabout.

Theywouldshowusthepersonwhowaskidnapped,orthebodythatwasfound,orwhateverthecasewas,andthentheofficerincharge,usuallyadetective,wouldwritedownorhaveitalreadywrittendown,allthepertinentinformationthatthePoliceDepartmenthadandeachgroupsatwithagroup.Alltheastrologerssattogether...

KC:Idowanttoaskyouwhichgroupwereyouamong?Wereyoupsychic?


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JM:No.Iwaswiththepeoplewhowereputtingiton.ItwasallbeingsponsoredbytheUSofA,UnitedSensitivesofAmerica,andsinceIwasontheboard,Iwasthererepresentingthecompanythatsputtingthisthingtogether.

LikeIsaid,wealsowouldhaveawardceremoniesonceayearinwhichwewouldgiveawardstodifferentpeoplewhoweredoingdifferentthingsforhumanity.IwasprivilegedtobeabletobetheretogiveManlyPalmerHallanawardforhisworkinservicetotheworld.

ManlyPalmerHall,Ibelieve,wasoneofthefinestandmostdearestmenIhaveevermetinmylife.Hewasnotonlycharming,anextraordinarilybrilliantmind,buthewasoneofthemostdecentandbeautifulpeoplethatIhaveever,personally,haveevermet.

ManlyPalmerHallwasanextraordinaryteacher.Heneverpromotedanything.Hemerelyeducatedpeople,as:Thisiswherethiscamefrom;thisiswherethatcamefrom;thisiswhatthatwordmeans.Sohewasaneducator.PeoplehavecalledhimallkindsofnamesbecausehewasaMason.Iknewhimpersonally.Ivebeentohishome.Whenhedied,heleftmeabeautifulgiftallofhisresearchjournals,helefttome.

KC:Thatsamazing.

JM:IwasshockedwhenIgotaphonecallfromthePhilosophicalResearchSocietyinLosAngelesandObadiahHarris,thepresidentatthattime,said:Mr.Hallwantedyoutohavesomethingwhenhepassedaway.

ANDISAID:Whatisit?IwasinSanDiego.

ANDHESAID:Imnotgoingtotellyou.Justcomepickitup.SoIdroveupthatdaytoLosAngelesfromSanDiegoanditwasalloftheresearchjournalsofManlyPalmerHall,hegavetome.AndIconsider

thattobeamonumentalgiftfromaverypowerfulman.

KC:Didyoufindsomecluestheretofollowout?[laughs]

JM:Tonsofstuffthere.

KC:Okay.

JM:ManlyPalmerHall,asIsaid,wasoneofthegreatestteacherstheworldhaseverknown.Inmyhumbleopinion,IdontthinkthereseverbeeninanyeraoftimeamantocomeclosetowhatManlyPalmerHallwasabletodo.Anyonewhohasanopenmindandofcourse,yourmindislikeaparachute:itdoesntworkifitsnotopenanyone

whoisintellectuallyhonest,whichyoudontfindverymuch--intellectuallyhonestwithanopenmind,matureandintelligentpersonlookingattheworkofManlyPalmerHallwouldhavetosaythisisoneofthegreatestmenthateverlived.

Idontknowhowmany...maybe70or80booksonesotericsubjectsofthewholeworld;over46setsoflectures,likesix90-minuteaudiolecturesof46esotericsubjectsoftheworld.


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KC:Wonderful.

JM:Incredible.Plusthousandsoflectures.Incidentally,Ihaveeverythingheeverdid.EverylectureheeverdidIhave,digitized.Monumentalwork.ButhewasapersonalfriendofmineandIlovedhimdearly.ImsayingthisbecausetherearesomanypeoplewhoputhimdownbecausehewasaMason.Hewasawonderfulteacher,abrilliantman,towhichhisdetractorscouldnotevenholdacandle.

KC:Ihearyou.

JM:Andhesnottheonlyone.IhaveotherpeopleIfeelthesamewayabout.

KC:Okay.Howdoyoufeel,justtochangegearsherealittlebit,aboutthecurrentadministrationofObama?

JM:[sighs]Well,Imnotpoliticalassuch.PersonallyIthinkIoughttochoosemywordscarefullyherebecauseIlikeObamaasaperson,andhesverypersonable;hesthekindofguyIwouldlovetositandchatwith.Hischildrenarebeautiful,hiswifeisaveryintelligentlady.AndsoIdonthaveanythingagainstObamaorhisfamily.Ithinktheyreverypersonableandveryinterestingpeople.

Butitsthepowersbehindhim,thatherepresents,thatsfrighteningtome.Iknowthingsaboutthepeoplewhoarebehindhimthatisabsolutelystaggering,frightening.Iliveinfearofwhatscoming,becauseofwhatIknownotbecauseofwhatIbelieveorthinkbecauseofwhatIknow.

KC:Areyoutalkingaboutwar?Areyoutalkingaboutanagendathatinvolveswar?WorldWarThree?

JM:Well,thatsalwayspossible.Letmegobackandsaythis.Again,IhavenothingagainstObamaasapersonandIlikehim.Thefamily,nothingagainstthematall.ButthesymbolthatIwastellingyou

about,thatIvebeenworkingon...DidyoueverseethemovieorthetelevisionshowV?

KC:Oh,absolutely.

JM:Theveryfirstone?

KC:Yes.

JM:Well,ABCisnowremakingV.Theyreremakingit.AndIwasshockedsomeonesentmeanemail.IthinktheywereinHollywood,andtheysentmeanemailwithapicturefromthenewmoviecomingout

soon.Ithinkitsgoingtocomeoutinthenextmonthorso,amade-for-televisionmoviebyABC.

KC:Oh,really?Okay.Fabulous.

JM:Disney/ABC.

KC:Veryinteresting.

JM:Okay?


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KC:Okay.Yeah?

JM:AnditsgoingtobecalledVanditsaremakeoftheoriginal.

KC:Okay.

JM:Butinit,theextraterrestrialswhoarereferredtoastheVisitors?TheVisitorsinthenewonearegivingtothepublicapamphletexplainingtheir(quote)NewWorldOrderthattheyarebringingtoplanet?

KC:Right.

JM:Andthepicture,whichIhave,shockedme.MykneesgotweakandIhadtositdown.Itwasshocking.ItwastheVisitors,thealienvisitorswholookedlikehumans,werehandingoutpamphletstothepeopleabouttheirNewOrderthattheyweregoingtobringinandthetitleofthepamphletwas:TheDawnofaNewDay--theverywordsthatIhavebeenresearchingforsome40yearsisnowgoingtobeinthemovie,thenewV.

KC:Okay.

JM:AndImtellingyou,thatisnotonlysignificant,itsmind-blowingwhenIgiveyouthewholestory.[Kerrylaughs]ABCandDisneyaretellingyousomethingaboutthissymbolthatIvebeenlookingatforalongtimeanditsgoingtoberightinyourface.BecauseImtellingyou,thatsymbolisgoingtobecomethemostimportantsymbolaroundtheglobe,forthefirsttimeinthepublicview.

AnytimeyouwanttodoresearchonthehiddenstufflikeIvedone,itseverywhere.Butno,nowbecauseofObama,nowthesecretsocietiesofthewhatIthinkareextraterrestrialmastersofthisworldaregoingtobringthissymboloutintotheworld,soeveryonecanseeit.

Andeventuallywhatsgoingtohappenisthatthewholehumanraceisgoingtowakeup.Andthisismyopinionabout2012myopinionof2012istheresgoingtobeanawakeningforthewholeworld:Wevebeenhad!Theyregoingtoseethisisanancientthingthatsbeencomingforalongtimeandweneversawit,wedidntunderstandit.

ButwhenmyvideocomesoutthatIwanttodoitsgoingtobelikeathree-hourstep-by-steponObamassymbol,JimmyCarter,allthePresidents,theBushes,theentiresuperstructureofWesternCivilization,andwhatthisstuffreallymeans,andwhereitisreallycomesfrom.

Ithink,andImnottryingtoaggrandizemyself,butIreallybelievethatitsgoingtocausequiteasensationwhenpeopleseewhatIreallyam,thatIvenevertoldanyonebefore.

AndwhenIseeObamausingthesameterms,thesamesymbol,thesameonethattheCommunistsused,theNazishaveused,thefascistshaveused,thesecretsocietiesaroundtheworldofFreemasonryhaveused;theBabylonians;asIsaid,alltheancientEgyptianstheyallusedthesameword,term,andsymbol.


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AndnowABCiscomingout,Disney/ABCiscomingoutwithanewremakeofVandinit,theextraterrestrialsthatlooklikehumans,whoarebringinga(quote)NewOrdertotheworld,andthepamphletinthemovieiscalledDawnofaNewDay!

ISAID:WOW!Icannotbelievehowoverwhelminglyobviousthissecretsymbolisnowbecoming,andthatswhyIwilldothisvideoonit.

KC:Butwereyoutoldmoreaboutthemovie?Moreaboutwheretheyregoingwithit,inotherwords?Imassumingyouhaventseenityet.

JM:No,Ihaventseenityet,butIwatchedtheotheronesomanytimes.Andtheotherones,ifyouremembertheoriginal,theVisitors,theywerewonderfulpeople.Theywereverygraciousandcharming.Andthenremembertheladywhowasinchargeofthevisitors,shewasthehighestranking,shewentintoaroomandpulledoffherfaceitwasareptilealien?

KC:Yes.

JM:Ipersonally,IbroughtDavidIcketoAmerica.HewasinAmericabecauseIbroughthimhere,personally.

KC:Yes.

JM:AndsoImsayingthatIamtotallyconvincedbeyondashadowofadoubt,formyself,thattherearesuchthingsasreptilealiens,thoughIhaveneverseenone,thankGod.ButItotallybelievetheyarehere.NotbecauseofDavidIcke,notbecauseofCredoMutwa,whoIlovelisteningto,awonderful,fascinatingman.DavidIckehasdonegreatstuff.ButIbelievetherearereptilealienshere,becauseofmyownpersonalresearch.

Ihavebeeninthecompanyofatleasteightpeopleoverthepastmany

years,eightdifferentpeople...eachoneisextraordinarilywell-grounded,people.Airlinepilot,one,withamajorairline.

AverywealthymaninLasVegaswhobuysandsellscommercialhotelsandbuildings,etceteraextremelywealthymanChristian,incidentally,veryChristianman,butvery,verywealthyandveryhighlyintelligentmansatdownandtoldmeabouthispersonalone-on-onewithareptilealieninwhichmanyothersinhischurchwereprivytosee.ThatsawholestoryinitselfthathappenedinColorado.Andthentohavescientists...

Andayoungladywhowasoneofmyfavoritepeopleintheworld,a

youngladycalledNancy,whojustblewmeaway.OnmyradioshowIusedtohaveashow;Ivehadsevendifferentradioshowsinmylife.Idliketogetbackonradioanddomyownshowagain.ButIhadashowonKPFKhereinLosAngeles,FMstation,andonenightIhadNancyonandNancyjustblewtheaudienceaway.Sheissofeminine,soincrediblycharmingandfemininegirl,talkingaboutstuffthatwillblowyourmind.KC:[laughs]

JM:HerfatherwasintheAirForce.HerfamilywasAirForce,but


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herfatherwasinchargeofProjectRetrievablesfortheAirForcethemanwhowasinchargeofgoingoutwhereverintheworld[therewas]anyextraterrestrialactivity.HewasinchargeintheAirForcetogotherefirst,andhewastheboss,andshesaidthemodusoperandiwasalwaysthesame.Illhavetomakeyouacopyofhertwo...Ivegottwotwo-hourinterviewsthatwilljustknockyouout.

KC:Idlovetohear.

JM:Youcouldtellthisisaverycharminggirl,buttellingyoustuffthatyouregoingtohavetositdowntodealwith.[laughs]

Shesaidwherevertheywouldgo;shealwayslivedonmilitarybases.Andshesaidalwaysthemethodwasthesame...therewasonephoneinthehouseforthefamily,andthentherewasanotherphone,whichnooneevertouched;youneverusedit.

Whenthatphonewouldring,nomatterwhen--twointhemorning,threeinthemorning--itdoesntmatter;ifthatphonerang,herfatherhadtenminutestobefullydressedwithhisbriefcase,andreadytogo.Intenminutesacarwouldpullupandnothingwassaid--novoices,nothingwassaid.Aknockonthedoor,hewouldwalkout;hewouldhavemilitaryescortintothecar,getinthecar,anddriveoff,andnothingsaid.Nobodyknows

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