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Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a Solution
October 17 2013
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
PATRIOT COALITION
What We Will Cover Today
1 Identify the Root Problem
2 Will changing the Constitution solve the problem
3 Restoring Constitutional Governance
Problem Identification
The first question should be
ldquoWhat is the problemrdquo
There are a thousand hacking
at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the rootldquo
-Henry David Thoreau
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the root problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the correct
solution and we will be ldquohacking at the limbsrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
ldquoBesides amassing a huge debt federal officeholders
often have disregarded individual liberty and
constitutional limits on their own powerrdquo -Rob Natelson ALEC Article V Handbook for State Legislators
ldquohellippoliticians are not obeying it and judges are indulging in
too much activismrdquo -Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum 2008
ldquoThe federal government is spending this country into the
ground seizing power from the states and taking liberty
from the peoplerdquo ndash Convention of States
ldquoThe Federal Government is brokenrdquo Citizens for Self-Governance
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
PATRIOT COALITION
What We Will Cover Today
1 Identify the Root Problem
2 Will changing the Constitution solve the problem
3 Restoring Constitutional Governance
Problem Identification
The first question should be
ldquoWhat is the problemrdquo
There are a thousand hacking
at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the rootldquo
-Henry David Thoreau
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the root problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the correct
solution and we will be ldquohacking at the limbsrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
ldquoBesides amassing a huge debt federal officeholders
often have disregarded individual liberty and
constitutional limits on their own powerrdquo -Rob Natelson ALEC Article V Handbook for State Legislators
ldquohellippoliticians are not obeying it and judges are indulging in
too much activismrdquo -Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum 2008
ldquoThe federal government is spending this country into the
ground seizing power from the states and taking liberty
from the peoplerdquo ndash Convention of States
ldquoThe Federal Government is brokenrdquo Citizens for Self-Governance
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Problem Identification
The first question should be
ldquoWhat is the problemrdquo
There are a thousand hacking
at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the rootldquo
-Henry David Thoreau
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the root problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the correct
solution and we will be ldquohacking at the limbsrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
ldquoBesides amassing a huge debt federal officeholders
often have disregarded individual liberty and
constitutional limits on their own powerrdquo -Rob Natelson ALEC Article V Handbook for State Legislators
ldquohellippoliticians are not obeying it and judges are indulging in
too much activismrdquo -Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum 2008
ldquoThe federal government is spending this country into the
ground seizing power from the states and taking liberty
from the peoplerdquo ndash Convention of States
ldquoThe Federal Government is brokenrdquo Citizens for Self-Governance
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
There are a thousand hacking
at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the rootldquo
-Henry David Thoreau
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the root problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the correct
solution and we will be ldquohacking at the limbsrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
ldquoBesides amassing a huge debt federal officeholders
often have disregarded individual liberty and
constitutional limits on their own powerrdquo -Rob Natelson ALEC Article V Handbook for State Legislators
ldquohellippoliticians are not obeying it and judges are indulging in
too much activismrdquo -Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum 2008
ldquoThe federal government is spending this country into the
ground seizing power from the states and taking liberty
from the peoplerdquo ndash Convention of States
ldquoThe Federal Government is brokenrdquo Citizens for Self-Governance
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the root problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the correct
solution and we will be ldquohacking at the limbsrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
ldquoBesides amassing a huge debt federal officeholders
often have disregarded individual liberty and
constitutional limits on their own powerrdquo -Rob Natelson ALEC Article V Handbook for State Legislators
ldquohellippoliticians are not obeying it and judges are indulging in
too much activismrdquo -Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum 2008
ldquoThe federal government is spending this country into the
ground seizing power from the states and taking liberty
from the peoplerdquo ndash Convention of States
ldquoThe Federal Government is brokenrdquo Citizens for Self-Governance
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Problem Identification
ldquoBesides amassing a huge debt federal officeholders
often have disregarded individual liberty and
constitutional limits on their own powerrdquo -Rob Natelson ALEC Article V Handbook for State Legislators
ldquohellippoliticians are not obeying it and judges are indulging in
too much activismrdquo -Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum 2008
ldquoThe federal government is spending this country into the
ground seizing power from the states and taking liberty
from the peoplerdquo ndash Convention of States
ldquoThe Federal Government is brokenrdquo Citizens for Self-Governance
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Problem Identification
Everyone agrees government
is out of control
What causes that
Public servants donrsquot follow the
Constitution
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Problem Identification
The people that want to change the
Constitution say that the root problem
is ldquopublic servants do not follow the
Constitutionrdquo
Is this the root problem
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
No Thatrsquos just a symptom
A doctor identifies symptoms and traces them to the primary cause
which is the real problem
Problem Identification
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Out-of-control government is a ldquosymptomrdquo of public servants not following the
Constitution
The next logical question in tracing the symptom back to the root problem is
Why do public servants not follow the Constitution
Problem Identification
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Public servants do not follow the Constitution because We the People
do not require them to
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Problem Identification
Unfortunately many people are
incorrectly identifying the problem
Their solution doesnrsquot even solve
the problem theyrsquove identified
and it might kill the patient
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Identifying The Wrong Problem
Public servants do not follow the Constitution
Leads to The Wrong Solution
Change the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Article V of the Constitution
tells us how to change it
Some people wrongly think
we should change it with
an Article V convention
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
These folks suggest changing the Constitution will make public servants uphold it
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Their solution is to change the Constitution
Will their solution solve the problem
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
No
Changing the Constitution will not make public servants
follow the Constitution
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Do supporters
of changing the Constitution
explain ldquohowrdquo
that will solve the problem
No
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
If they arenrsquot talking about how changing the Constitution will solve the problemhellip
What ARE they talking about
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
They are only talking about potential amendments and the rules for
controlling the convention
The Wrong Solution to the Wrong Problem
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
1 Who will control it States Congress or delegates 2 Can it be limited to a single amendment 3 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 4 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 5 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 6 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Does Who Controls the Convention Matter
Who will control it States Congress or the delegates
Will who controls the convention have any effect
on whether our public servants follow a newly-revised Constitution
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Will Answering These Questions Matter
1 Can it be limited to a single amendment 2 Can it be limited to a single subjectrdquo 3 Can it be limited to a single topicldquo 4 Can the US Supreme Court intervene 5 Are the delegates representatives of the state
legislatures or of the people
Will the answers to any of these questions make it likely or more likely that our public servants will follow a
newly-revised Constitution
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Their solution does not address the problem theyrsquove identified
So figuring out the rules for
controlling the convention DOES NOT MATTER
What Rules for Controlling the Convention Are They Discussing
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
What Amendments are They Discussing
1 Term Limits for Congress 2 Term Limits for Supreme Court 3 Repeal the 17th Amendment 4 Limit Federal Spending and Taxation 5 Limit Federal Bureaucracy 6 Promote Free Enterprise 7 Protect Private Property 8 Grant States Direct Authority to Amend Constitution 9 Grant States Authority to Check Congress 10 Protect the Vote Amendment 11 Parental Rights Amendment (HJ Res 50)
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
We already have ldquoterm limitsrdquo for Members of Congress
What theyrsquore really proposing is limiting the total
number of years a Member can serve
Will limiting the total time a Member of Congress can serve make them uphold the Constitution
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Mark Levinrsquos book goes into great
detail about the workings of an Article
V Convention
He also proposes numerous
amendments he would like to see a
convention consider such as a
balanced budget amendment term
limits and a repeal of the 17th
Amendment
If We the People wonrsquot hold our
elected officials accountable for not
upholding the Constitution now by
what stretch of the imagination do we
think they will follow a ldquonew and
improvedrdquo Constitution
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
The Answers to the Wrong Questions DO NOT MATTER
These questions would be important and warrant our giving due diligence to answering them if holding an Article V Convention could address the root problem It is inconceivable that any amendment that could be adopted at an Article V Convention and sent to the states for ratification could force public servants to follow the Constitution The Constitution cannot defend itself Itrsquos survival and the preservation of our God-given Rights for which it was ordained depend entirely on the WILL OF THE PEOPLE
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
ldquoThe people made the Constitution and the
people can unmake it It is the creature of their
will and lives only by their willrdquo
Chief Justice John Marshall Cohens v Virginia 19 US 264 (1821)
If We the People have lost our will to keep the
Constitution alive it will surely die
If we believe in the Liberty it was ordained to
protect we must take the necessary measures to
restore it
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Changing the Constitution wonrsquot make public servants
follow the Constitution
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Remember what the root problem really is
We the People do not require public servants to follow the Constitution
THAT IS THE ldquoROOT PROBLEMrdquo
Problem Identification
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Before You Can Solve A Problem You Must Identify the Problem
If we ask the wrong questions the answers wonrsquot matter
If we donrsquot properly identify the problem therersquos a good chance we wonrsquot choose the
correct solution
Problem Identification
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
What have we learned about the folks
wanting to change the Constitution
1 They want a solution that doesnrsquot solve the problem they identified
2 They identified the wrong problem 3 They are ldquohacking at the limbs of evilrdquo
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
CAN WE TRUST THESE PEOPLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THE REAL PROBLEM
Michael Farris Convention of States
CONSTITUTION
FOR THE
NEWSTATES
OF AMERICA
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Questions and Answers
Remember strike at the root of evil
Ask the right questions so the answers will matter
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
1 Public servants are our employees 2 We the People are the boss 3 The Constitution is the ldquoemployee handbookrdquo 4 Learn the Constitution We canrsquot be a good boss over our
public servants if we donrsquot know the Constitution 5 Interview prospective employees (public servants) 6 Only hire qualified public servants 7 Hold them accountable to their Oath to the Constitution 8 FIRE and REPLACE incompetent or derelict public servants 9 Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable
Rights and we can restore Constitutional Governance and
ldquoSecure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterityrdquo
ADDRESSING THE ROOT PROBLEM
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts
Every Patriot Should Know
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Pre-Constitutional Concepts
1 Sovereignty and its inherent authority
2 The primary purpose of any legitimate
government
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
3 The Purpose and scope of the Constitution
4 The fact that the Constitution was written for
the ldquoaverage voterrdquo or the average citizenrdquo
5 The only federal court that has the authority to
hear a case in which a state is a party is the
US Supreme Court (Article III sect2 cl 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
6 A constitutional convention cannot be controlled
and should be avoided at all costs
(Article V)
7 The extent and meaning of the Supremacy Clause
(Article VI Clause 2)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
The Constitution
8 The extent and meaning of the Oath Clause of
Article VI Clause 3
9 Why States do not have the Constitutional power
(or other authority) to ldquonullifyrdquo ldquofederal lawrdquo
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should
Know
Principles of Federalism
10 State courts have concurrent jurisdiction
with the lowerldquo federal courts
to decide and interpret federal laws
and the Constitution
within their territorial boundaries
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
11 The Federal government cannot
require a state pass specific legislation
participate in a particular federal program
(scheme)
or administrate a federal program (schemerdquo)
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
A Dozen Concepts Every Patriot Should Know
Principles of Federalism
12 Federalism is meant
to directly protect
the citizens
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Be ever vigilant in defending our God-given inalienable Rights
Restore Constitutional Governance
Defending Life and Liberty is
the Pursuit of Happiness
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Want to know more
If yoursquod like to know more about this or any other issue the FIRE Coalition and Patriot Coalition champion or would like our National Director Jeff Lewis andor our General Counsel Richard D Fry to come speak to your
group contact them at JeffPatriotCoalitioncom
or RichardPatriotCoalitioncom
Download this presentation in PDF form here
httppatriotcoalitioncomdocsCon-Con-2013pdf
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom
Problem Identification Analyzing the Con Con as a solution
Richard D Fry General Counsel Patriot Coalition
Richardpatriotcoalitioncom