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Why send a flood? 98 How could the World Flood tocover Everest? 108
What about Pangea? 117 Walt Brown-hydroplate
What about the Ice Age?- 148
What froze the Mammoths?-
153
The Hovind theory 217 Clams on Mt. Everest? 270
Diatoms- 289
Petrification-319
Sorting of animals-345 Where did the water go? 361
Kangaroos in Australia?-416
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Earthquakes
Mt St. Helens Vertical trees Coal
Time spent in ark Land Bridges
Peleg Underwater cities
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CREATION SCIENCEEVANGELISM
A Creation Seminar byDr. Kent Hovind
c/o 29 Cummings RoadPensacola, Florida [32503]ph. 850-479-3466
www.drdino.com
Seminar Part Six: The Hovind Theoryabout the Creation, the Curse and the
Flood
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If the Bible is true about the age of theearth, how do we explain:
1. The giant canyons on earth2.The frozen mammoths3. Where did the flood water come from
and4. Where did it go?5. Where does the “Ice Age” fit in?
6. Why are kangaroos only living inAustralia?
7. Where was the Garden of Eden?
8. What did God do before the creation?
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It is our prayer that this sessionwill give you an outline or
theory about world history.It is just a theory but we feel itmakes sense and will give you
a skeleton to work from.
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Three major events
that we need tounderstand.
1. The Creation-Sem.22. The Curse-
3. The Catastrophe-The Flood
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The Creation
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A few feet of icesuspended by the
Mysner effect above10-15 miles? of air
10-20 miles?of crust ½ mile? of water
under the crust
where thefountains of thedeep came from
in Gen. 7
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In the beginningGod created theheaven and
earth.Genesis 1:1
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Antediluvian life span chart
Average agebefore the floodwas 912 years.Today, 70-80
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We cover allabout theoriginal
creation onseminar part 2.
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Knowing this first,
that there shallcome in the last
days scoffers,walking after their
own lusts,II Peter 3:3
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And saying, Where is the
promise of his coming?For since the fathers fell
asleep, all things continueas they were from the
beginning of the creation.
II Peter 3:4
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For this they willingly are
ignorant of, that by theword of God the heavens
were of old, and the earthstanding out of the water and in the water:
II Peter 3:5
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Whereby the world
that then was, being overflowed withwater, perished:
II Peter 3:6
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II Peter 3:7
But the heavens and the
earth, which are now, bythe same word are keptin store, reserved untofire against the day of
judgment and perdition
of ungodly men.
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The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:
1. The creation
2. The flood2. The coming judgement
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0Jesus‟ Birth
2000
Creationist‟s Time Line: 1”=150years
6000 yearsago(4000 BC)
Creation
4400 YAFlood
The Bible dates put the
creation about 6000 years ago.
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Kids riding dinos
God made a beautiful creation with no suffering or
death. See seminar #2.
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The Curse
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And they heard the voice of the LORD Godwalking in the garden in the cool of the day: and
Adam and his wife hid themselves from the
presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called unto
Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? Andhe said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was
afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.And he said, Who told thee that thou wast
naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof Icommanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did
eat.Gen. 3:8-12
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And the LORD God said unto the woman,What is this that thou hast done? And the
woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and Idid eat. And the LORD God said unto the
serpent, Because thou hast done this, thouart cursed above all cattle, and above everybeast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thougo, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of
thy life: And I will put enmity between thee
and the woman, and between thy seed andher seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thoushalt bruise his heel.
Gen. 3:13-15
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Unto the woman he said, I will greatlymultiply thy sorrow and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;and thy desire shall be to thy husband,and he shall rule over thee. And unto
Adam he said, Because thou hasthearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and
hast eaten of the tree, of which Icommanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not
eat of it: cursed is the ground for thysake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the
days of thy life;Gen. 3:16-17
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Thorns also and thistles shall it
bring forth to thee; and thou shalteat the herb of the field; In thesweat of thy face shalt thou eat
bread, till thou return unto theground; for out of it wast thou
taken: for dust thou art, and untodust shalt thou return.
Gen. 3:18-19
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The Flood
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And God saw that thewickedness of man was
great in the earth, and that
every imagination of thethoughts of his heart was
only evil continually. Gen.6:5
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And it repented theLORD that he had
made man on theearth, and it grieved
him at his heart.Gen.6:6
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And the LORD said, I will
destroy man whom I havecreated from the face of the earth; both man, andbeast, and the creeping
thing, and the fowls of the
air; for it repenteth methat I have made them. Gen.6:7
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The earth also was corrupt
before God, and the earthwas filled with violence. And
God looked upon the earth,and, behold, it was corrupt;
for all flesh had corruptedhis way upon the earth.Gen.6:11-12
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And God said unto Noah, The
end of all flesh is come beforeme; for the earth is filled with
violence through them; and,behold, I will destroy them withthe earth. Make thee an ark of
gopher wood;
Gen.6:13-14
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Excuse me!
Why did Goduse a flood
and not justhave all the
bad peopledie?
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1. The flood left evidencewhere a miracle would not.
2. The effects are here for allto see and be reminded of
God‟s judgment on sin. 3. The warning time gavethem a chance to repent.
Things to consider concerning the flood.
There are several theories about what caused the
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The earth was created with water under
the crust.
There are several theories about what caused theflood. I will share my theory in a a few minutes.
We first need to understand what the original earthwas like. This is explained in detail on video #2
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The earth is theLord‟s…He hath
founded it upon
the seas…. Psalms 24:1-2
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He gathereth thewaters of the sea
together as an heap:he layeth up the depth
in storehouses. Psalms 33:7
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To him thatstretched out
the earth above
the waters: Psalms 136:6
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Why does Earth have so much water compared with the other planets?--- Kate SiscoCrandon, Wisconsin, United StatesMichael Drake , director of the University of Arizona's Lunar andPlanetary Laboratory in Tuscon, replies:
Not only does Earth have a lot of
visible water —oceans cover 70 percentof the surface—but another 10 oceans‟
worth of water may be entombed deep
inside.
www.discover.com/ask-discover/?qid=96
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In the six hundredth year of Noah‟s life, in the second
month, the seventeenth dayof the month, the same daywere all the fountains of the
great deep broken up, and thewindows of heaven wereopened. And the rain was
upon the earth forty days andforty nights.Genesis 7:11-12
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Or who shut up the sea with doors,when it brake forth, as if it had
issued out of the womb? When Imade the cloud the garment thereof,and thick darkness a
swaddlingband for it, And brake upfor it my decreed place, and setbars and doors, And said, Hitherto
shalt thou come, but no further: andhere shall thy proud waves be
stayed? Job 38:8-11
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Burdett & Ginn Earth Science, 1987, p. 301
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San Andreas
FaultCalifornia,USA
Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 190
The earth is brokenup into plates which
move a little,causing earthquakesand volcanoes.
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Excuse me!
Isn‟t that proof of Pangea?
Merrill Earth Science
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Merrill Earth Science1993 p. 343
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2004 Holt Biology p. 722
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Holt Earth Science, 1994, p.12
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The evidence given to supportPangaea and continental drift
1. The shapes of the
continents seem to fit.2. Similar fossils found
on opposite sides of oceans.
Merrill Earth Science
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Merrill Earth Science1993 p. 343
Similar fossils
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Similar fossilsare found all
over the world.
This isevidence of a
flood!
The evidence given to
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The evidence given tosupport continental drift
1. The shapes of thecontinents seem to fit.
2. Similar fossils found onopposite sides of oceans.
3. Magnetic reversals in themid-Atlantic ridge.
Wh t th d ‟t t ll
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What they don‟t tell
you: 1. Africa has been
shrunk 35-40% tomake them fit.
2. Mexico and CentralAmerica are gone.
Wh i
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Where is:Mexico?
Panama?Costa Rica?
Guatemala?Honduras?Belize?Nicaragua?
McGraw Hill Earth Science, 1973, p. 228
What they don‟t tell you:
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3. Europe and
South Americahave been rotatedcounterclockwiseand Africaclockwise.
What they don t tell you:
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#4 If you take the water out of the oceans you will
notice there is dirtunderneath.
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The earth has a solid crust. It is nothollow under the oceans!
Holt Earth Science 1994 p.18
Textbooks
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Textbooks
will saythere are
“magneticreversals”
in the rock.
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Hot basalt loses it‟s magnetism. The water rushed into the cracks, cooling the basalt andlocking in a stronger magnetic signature. Dr. Walter
Brown 602-955-7663 has more on this. His book, In the Beginning is$23.95 from CSE.
“It is clear that the
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“It is clear that the
simple model of uniformly magnetized
crustal blocks of alternating polarity does
not represent reality.” Hall, J. M., and P. T. Robinson, “Deep Crustal
Drilling in the North Atlantic Ocean,” Science, vol.204 (May 11, 1979), p p 578
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Doubts About Creation? Not After This! Brian Young p. 29
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“There are no magnetic
reversals on the ocean floor.”There are only areas of weaker magnetism.In the Beginning Walt Brown
Available from CSE $29
The Earth‟s
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The Earth‟smagnetic
field isgetting
weaker.
Earth‟s magnetic strength has declined 10% in the
last 150 years and 40% in the last 1,000 years.*Astronomy and the Bible Donald DeYoung, p. 18
See ICR‟s Impact # 188 for more on this. Also Scientific Creationism by Henry Morris p. 157, (619)-448-0900 and
K.L. McDonald and R.H Gunst, “An analysis of earth‟s magnetic field from183 to 1965,” ESSA Technical Report, IER 46-IES 1, US Government Printing
Office, Washington, 1967
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I think Walt Brownhas the most
logical theory toexplain fault lines
and continentalplate movement.
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Dr. Walt Brown- Hydroplate theory. www.creationscience.com
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In the Beginning Walt Brown p 91
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In the Beginning Walt Brown p.91
Water entering the cracks cooled and solidified
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Mid Atlantic Ridge In The Beginning Walt Brown p. 115, $23.50 CSE
gthe basalt locking in a stronger magnetic field.
A di t D
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According to Dr.
Brown, there is noplace on the ocean
floor where a northseeking compasswill point south!
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Merrill Earth Science, 1994 p. 351
The continents aredi i t th
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eroding into the oceans.There is only enoughsediment in the ocean
for a few thousandyears of erosion.
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Textbooks teach that the continents aremoving apart as fast as your fingernails grow.
Scott Foresman Earth Science 1989 p. 223
The plates are moving but,
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1. They have always beenmoving.
2. The rate has always beenwhat we see today.
Students should be told of other options instead of beingbrainwashed to believe only the
evolutionist option
The plates are moving but,current plate movement
does not prove:
If I see someone headed
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If I see someone headedeast on I 10 at 70 mph...
Does that prove they startedin L.A. 4 days ago?
Continental drift theory is
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1. The magnetic field isgetting weaker (making the earth
less than 25,000 years old).
2. There is very littlesediment in the ocean. (only afew thousand years worth).
Continental drift theory istrying to avoid two problems
for those who want the earthto be billions of years old:
Excuse me!
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Excuse me!What about theIce Age? Wheredoes that fit in
the Bible?
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What about the Ice Age?
The earth certainly had atleast one Ice Age. There are
several theories about howit fits the Bible.I will give you the “Hovind
Theory” of what happened.
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Extent of Ice AgeScott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 316
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Bob Jones Earth Science,1989 p. 441
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What Frozethe
Mammoths?
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Beresovka Mammoth found 1901
Holt Earth Science, 1994 p. 269
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Frozen Mammoth and Rhinoceros finds. In the Beginning
Walt Brown p. 160
1. Frozen upright 2 U di t d
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2. Undigestedfood in their
mouth andstomach3. Died of suffocation- no
water found inlungs4. Small ice
crystals in blood
Probably froze in less than 5 hours.This requires about -300
0F
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National Geographic map
In the fall of 1999, while preaching in Alaska, I met a manwho worked for an oil company in Barrow, Alaska. He told
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who worked for an oil company in Barrow, Alaska. He toldme they had recently drilled through 1000 feet of permafrost and then drilled straight through a tree, 300
feet tall, standing up!
Before I give you
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Before I give you
the “Hovind
Theory” of whatcaused the flood,
we need to review
some science
Many scores of people have influenced my
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y p p ythinking on the subject of the flood over the
years. Some of the most influential have
been: Henry Morris, John Morris, StevenAustin, Don Patton, Walt Brown and Carl
Baugh.
While their research and input has beenimmensely helpful, we chose the name“Hovind Theory” because: 1. It is slightly
different from any other individual‟s (though
combining aspects of many others) 2. Ialone must bear the responsibility if it is
wrong. See James 3
Science review
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Science review
1. The inverse squarelaw
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The Inverse Square Law:
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The Inverse Square Law:
When the distance is
halved between twoattracting bodies, the
force of attraction isquadrupled.
Th I S
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The Inverse Square
Law:
D
The force of attraction between
two objects is inverselyproportional to the square of the
distance between them
Th I S
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The Inverse Square
Law:
D
If the distance is 1/3 the force of
attraction between two objects is9 times greater.
1/3 inverted is 3/1 3 = 9
2
Inverse Square Laws
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q
apply when you aredealing with:
When thedistance is
halved the forceof attraction isquadrupled.
GravityLight
MagnetismGirls
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Mrs. Hovind at 10 feet.
Very attractive!
Mrs. Hovind at 5 feet.4 times as attractive!
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At this distance the force of attraction overpowers all resistance!
Science review
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Science review
1. The inverse squarelaw
2. The spinning top
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A spinning top wobbles for a
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Impact?
while when struck, then
stabilizes.
By Randolph E.Schmid
ASSOCIATED PRESS
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ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON, Jan.
20 — Scientistsstudying underwater
volcanoes havefound evidence the
Earth may havewobbled like an out-
of-balance ball 84million years ago,
relocating the poles
and shifting thelocation of
Washington to thetropics.
MSNBC web site 1-20-2000
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Stonehenge was apparently built to
track the solar solstice shadow
The temple of Amen Ra drawn
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Amen Ra drawnby Napoleon‟s
savants in 1798.The colonnade
aimed at thesummer solstice.
5/5/2000.
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The Earth‟s tilt as it orbits thesun causes the solstice.
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The famous Australian
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astronomer GeorgeDodwell did a study of the
solstice shadowsrecorded by the ancients.
Eudoxus, Amen-Ra,
Stonehenge, etc.It’s a Young World After All by Ackerman
The recorded tilt of the
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The recorded tilt of theearth made a wavy line on the graph that was amatch of the wavy line a
spinning top makes when struck by an
object.It’s a Young World After All by Ackerman
It appeared to him
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It appeared to him
that somethingstruck the earth
about 4350 yearsago.
It’s a Young World After All by Ackerman
Graph of Earth‟s tilt as recorded
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2000 4000 Today
Impact?4350 years ago(2350 B.C.)
by ancient astronomers
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Today the Earth is tilted 23 1/2degrees. This is what causes
our seasons.
While the earth
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While the earth
remaineth seedtime andharvest, and cold and
heat, and summer andwinter… shall not cease.
(after the flood)Genesis 8:22
Science review
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Science review
1. The inverse squarelaw
2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters
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Craters on
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Prentice Hall EarthScience 1991 p. 73
Mercury
Canyons onMars are
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Mars are
much larger than GrandCanyon!
Thesecanyons were formed in a fewweeks according to Scientific
American 1998 and MSNBCnews 6-20-2002. There is littleor no water on Mars. Glenco Earth Science 1999 p 649
WASHINGTON, June 20, 2002MSNBC — Water roaring outof an overfilled lake carved
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of an overfilled lake carvedan instant Grand Canyon — a
valley more than mile deep— on the surface of Mars 3.5billion years ago, accordingto a new analysis of pictures
taken by spacecraft.RESEARCHERS AT theNational Air and SpaceMuseum said the flood of
water originated from a hugelake — large enough to floodboth Texas and California — that overflowed into a nearbyimpact crater.
When that crater filledup, said geologist Ross
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p, g gIrwin, the water eroded
away a ridgelike barrier and was sent rampagingacross a plain. Within a
short time, a deep andwide gully calledMa‟adim Vallis wascarved from the Martiansurface.
“Imagine more than five times the volume of water in the Great Lakes being released in a singleflood and you‟ll have a sense of the scale of this
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flood and you ll have a sense of the scale of thisevent,” said Irwin, the first author of a study
appearing in Friday‟s issue of the journal Science.
The force and volume of thewater was enough to carve a valley
6,900 feet (2,100 meters) deep and550 miles (885 kilometers) longwithin a matter of months, he said.Irwin said the study presents moreevidence that Mars, now a cold,dusty place with water existing onlyas buried ice, was once wetter andwarmer.
He said some researchers haveestimated that up to 40 percent of theMartian surface could have been
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Martian surface could have beencovered with water, although that
estimate will take more research toconfirm. The water is thought to havecome from precipitation — rain or snow— from a warm atmosphere. Mars nowhas only a very thin atmosphere.
Irwin said a detailed analysis of pictures from the Mars Global Surveyor show the planet once had a lake thatcovered more than 424,000 square
miles (1.1 million square kilometers)and was more than 3,600 feet (1,100meters) deep. This lake spilled into andfilled up a nearby, 300-mile-wide (480-
kilometer-wide) impact crater.
A ridge on the edge of the crater gave way, suddenlyreleasing the flood that carved Ma‟adim Vallis, said Irwin.Unlike Arizona‟s Grand Canyon, which was carved over
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y ,millions of years by the Colorado River, Ma‟adim Vallis wasmade “within a matter of months, certainly less than a
year,” said Irwin.The Martian valley has a broad riverbed on its floor,
miles in width, in contrast to the relatively narrow riverbedon the floor of the Grand Canyon. June 20, 2002 MSNBC
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“A team of Europeanresearchers said theyfound blocks of ice just
under the surface of Mars near the equator.”
MSNBC.com 2/28/05
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Science review
1. The inverse squarelaw
2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters
4. The Mysner effect
A train in Japansuspended on super-conducting coils Physical
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HBJ Physical Science 1989 p. 313
Magnet floating abovea superconductor.
This is known as the“Mysner Effect”
conducting coils. PhysicalScience A Unified Approach 1996 p.465
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Science review
1. The inverse squarelaw
2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters
4. The Mysner effect5. Comets in space
Holt ModernEarth Science
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Earth Science,1983, p.51
Ice meteors
are commonin space andare normally
-300 to -400Fahrenheit.
0 0
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c ence rev ew1 Th i
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c ence rev ew1. The inverse square
law2. The spinning top
3. The moon‟s craters 4. The Mysner effect5. Comets in space6. The earth‟s magneticfield.
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Burdett & Ginn Earth Science, 1987, p. 90
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Northern Lights
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Prentice Hall EarthScience 1989, p. 307
Science review1 The in erse sq are la
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1. The inverse square law
2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters
4. The Mysner effect5. Comets in space6. The earth‟s magnetic field
7. The pre-flood world wasdifferent
atmosphere SFES 1990 p.
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353
Some think it was a layer of ice suspended
by the magnetic field- the Mysner effect
Science review1 The inverse square law
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1. The inverse square law
2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters 4. The Mysner effect
5. Comets in space6. The earth‟s magnetic field
7. The pre-flood world wasdifferent
8. Who was Peleg?
And Mizraim begat Ludim, andA i d L h bi d
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Anamim, and Lehabim, and
Naphtuhim, And Pathrusim, andCasluhim, (out of whom came
Philistim,) and Caphtorim. And
Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn,and Heth, And the Jebusite, andthe Amorite, and the Girgasite,
And the Hivite, and the Arkite, andthe Sinite,
Genesis 10:13-17
And unto Eber were born
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And unto Eber were born
two sons: the name of onewas Peleg; for in his days
was the earth divided; andhis brother‟s name was
Joktan.Genesis 10:25
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Science review1 Th i l
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1. The inverse square law
2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters 4. The Mysner effect5. Comets in space
6. The earth‟s magnetic field 7. The pre-flood world was different8. Who was Peleg?
9. The pre-flood world had a layer of water under the crust. Ps.136:6
Science review1 Th i l
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1. The inverse square law2. The spinning top3. The moon‟s craters 4. The Mysner effect5. Comets in space6. The earth‟s magnetic field 7. The pre-flood world was different8. Who was Peleg?9. The pre-flood world had a layer of water under thecrust. Ps. 136:6
10. The earth has been struck manytimes by meteors.
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http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/planets/impact3.htm
47 mileManicougan
Crater, Quebec,
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CanadaProbably lateflood impact-
filled inw/sediments.
4600 foot Barringer Crater, Winslow AZ
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Science review1 The inverse square law
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1. The inverse square law2. The spinning top
3. The moon‟s craters 4. The Mysner effect5. Comets in space6. The earth‟s magnetic field
7. The pre-flood world was different8. Who was Peleg?9. The pre-flood world had a layer of water under the
crust. Ps. 136:6
10.The earth has been struck many times bymeteors.11.There might be two ways to look at things.
(how fast was that calf going?)
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I am going tobelieve the
Bible until it is
proven wrong!
Some say “I am
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Some say, I amnot going to
believe the Bibleuntil it is proven
right!”
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1 Noah and the animals were safely
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1. Noah and the animals were safely
in the ark. 2. A -3000 Ice meteor came throughthe solar system. Fragments
cratered the planets and made ringsaround some planets.3. As it approached the earth itshattered in space and the super cold ice “snowed” on the earthmostly around the poles.
4 The sudden dump of ice on the poles
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4. The sudden dump of ice on the poles
caused: the earth‟s crust to crackreleasing the fountains of the deep.The rapidly spreading ice caused the ice
age effects,the burial of the mammoths,the wobble of the earth for the next fewthousand years,the collapse of the pre-flood canopy,and opened the fountains of the deepflooding the earth.
5 During the first few months
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5. During the first few months
of the flood, dead animalssettled out, and were buried,the swirling waters depositedgreat piles of dead plants andanimals.
These became coal and fossilgraveyards over the next few
h ndred ears
6 During the last few months
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6. During the last few months
of the flood the unstableplates of the now fracturedearth shifted.
The thin spots sank down tobecome ocean basins andother places lifted up to formmountains.The runoff caused erosion
i th ft di t
7 Over the next few
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7. Over the next few
hundred years the ice capsgenerally retreated,
the added water formed thecontinental shelf,as the cold water absorbed
CO2 life spans shortened inthe days of Peleg.
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8. The earth still showsthe effects of this
devastating flood as areminder of God‟s
hatred of sin.
Carl Baugh’s picture or any
showingdinosaursgoing into
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showing dinosaurs going into
ark.
And the LORD said unto Noah,C
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Come thou and all thy house intothe ark; for thee have I seenrighteous before me in this
generation. Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two,
the male and his female.Genesis 7:1-2
And God spake unto
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And God spake unto
Noah, saying, Go forthof the ark, thou, and
thy wife, and thy sons,and thy sons‟ wives
with thee.Genesis 8:15-16
And they that went in,
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y ,
went in male andfemale of all flesh, as
God had commandedhim: and the LORD
shut him in.Genesis 7:16
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2. A -3000
F Ice meteor came through the solar
system cratering themoon and planets andmaking rings of icearound some planets.
Craters on
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Prentice Hall EarthScience 1991 p. 73
Mercury
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Namowitz/Spaulding 1989 p. 361
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Prentice Hall Earth Science 1991 p. 73
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Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 614
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3. As it approached theearth it shattered in
space and the super cold ice snowed on the
earth, mostly aroundthe poles.
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Burdett & Ginn Earth Science, 1987 p. 90
Super-cold ice
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cold ice
is easilystaticallycharged.
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The canopy of water
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overheadcrumbled andwater under
the crust burst forth
and floodedthe world. Picture
courtesy Dr. Carl Baugh
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Di M i 1997
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Frozen bobcat,
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Frozen bobcat,
camels, bison,mammoth, etc
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Prentice Hall
Earth Science1989 ed.,p297
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See also:Richard S.
Lewis
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Lewis,
A Continent forScience: The
Antarctic
Adventure (NYViking Press,1965), p.130-
134.
“Scientists have reported discovering thefirst set of dinosaur fossils ever to be found
in the interior of Antarctica. The fossils are
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in the interior of Antarctica. The fossils are
said to be the remains of a plant eatingdinosaur, 25 to 30 feet long, that lived about
200 million years ago in what geologists call
the early Jurassic age. The bones werespotted at a small section of exposed rock
alongside the mountain, which lies about 400
miles from the South Pole.” Raymond, Chris, “Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs in Antarctica‟s
Interior,” Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11.
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“The discovery of thousands of well-preserved leaves in Antarctica h k d d b t
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has sparked a debate amonggeologists over whether the polar region, rather than being blanketed
by a massive sheet of ice for millions of years enjoyed a near-temperate climate as recently as
three million years ago.” Raymond, Chris, “Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs in
Antarctica‟s Interior,” Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11.
“In January, Mr. Webb—with DavidHarwood, an assistant professor of geology at the University of
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geo ogy at t e U e s ty o
Nebraska at Lincoln, and BarrieMcKelvey, a professor of geologyat the University of New England in
Australia—found the deposit of leaves on the side of a cliff in adesolate stretch of theTransantarctic Mountains, about250 miles from the South Pole.”
Raymond, Chris, “Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs inAntarctica‟s Interior,” Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11.
“The leaves, compressed bysubsequent layers of ice, look
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like fossils. But unlike fossils,which leave only mineral tracesof the original organism, the
leaves retain their originalcellular structure and organiccontent.” Raymond, Chris, “Discovery of Leaves in AntarcticaSparks Debate over Whether Region Had Near-TemperateClimate,” Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991).P. A9-10
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TheBiblical
Flood andthe IceEpoch,
Donald W. Pattonp. 113
North Pole
MagneticNorth Pole
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Prentice Hall Earth Science, 1991 p. 510
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Reader‟s Digest Strange Stories, Amazing Facts, p. 337
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Heath Earth Science1994, p. 194
Glacialgrooves- giantscratches in
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scratches in
the rockcaused by icesliding across
the surface.
Scott, Foresman EarthScience, 1990, p. 304
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Extent of Ice AgeScott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990, p316
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See Gen. 1:6-7;II Pt. 3, Ps. 148:4;
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Some think it was a layer of ice suspendedby the magnetic field- the Mysner effect.
In the six hundredth year of Noah‟s life, in the second
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month, the seventeenth dayof the month, the same daywere all the fountains of the
great deep broken up, and thewindows of heaven wereopened. And the rain was
upon the earth forty days andforty nights.
Genesis 7:11-12
And on that day the Lord causedthe whole earth to shake, and the
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sun darkened, and thefoundations of the world raged,and the whole earth was
moved violently,
Jasher 6:11
(Is this not written in the
book of Jasher?)Joshua 10:13. II Sam. 1:18
CSE-$10
and the lightning flashed,and the thunder roared
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and the thunder roared,and all the foundations in
the earth were broken
up… Jasher 6:11
(Is this not written in
the book of Jasher?)Joshua 10:13. II Sam. 1:18
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4. The sudden dump of ice on the poles
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caused: the earth‟s crust to crackreleasing the fountains of the deep.The rapidly spreading ice caused the iceage effects,
the burial of the mammoths,the wobble of the earth for the next fewthousand years,
the collapse of the pre-flood canopy,and earth to be completely covered byH2O.
And the waters prevailed
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exceedingly upon theearth; and all the high
hills, that were under thewhole heaven, were
covered.Genesis 7:19
Local Flood?
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If the Earthwere reducedto a 12” globeall the water in
ll th
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all the oceanswould not even
fill1 tablespoon.
Today theoceansaverage 12,000feet deep. If the
Earth were
smooth thewater would be8,000 feet deep
(1.5 miles) everywhere!
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Holt ModernEarth Science,
1983,
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Oysters11.5 feet
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wide!Express Times
3-2-01p. A-2,
1 800 360 3601Eastern PA.
DailyAmericanRepublic
Friday March 2
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2001 Poplar Bluff, Missouri
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450 miles to the beach!
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Clams open when they die.
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Even fragile itemslike eggs areoftenfossilized.
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Even fragile itemslike these giant
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Fossil jellyfish inMuseum in SaltLake City, UT.
6-24-02
In the six hundredth year of Noah‟s life, in the second
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month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day wereall the fountains of the great
deep broken up, and thewindows of heaven were
opened.Genesis 7:11
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To him that stretched out the earthabove the waters:
Psalms 136:6
4. The sudden dump of ice on the poles
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caused: the earth‟s crust to crackreleasing the fountains of the deep.The rapidly spreading ice caused the iceage effects,the burial of the mammoths,the wobble of the earth for the next fewthousand years,
the collapse of the pre-flood canopy,and opened the fountains of the deepflooding the earth.
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Hot water came shooting out killingeverything within a few hundred miles.
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Bob Jones University Earth Science, 1993 ed., p. 348
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Diatoms accumulate slowly at thebottom of the ocean. It may take1000 years to accumulate 1”.
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Diatomatious earth is usedfor: swimming-pool filters,
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detergents, fertilizers,insulation, sound-proofing,paper finishes, bricks, paintthickeners, oil dry,insecticides, polishes, cat
litter, paint removers andscores of other things.
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The largestdiatomatious
earth quarryin the world isin Lompoc,
California
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The Diatomatious Earth (DE) goesfor over 100 miles and is often
hundreds of feet thick!
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“At a diatomaceous-earthquarry in Lompoc, CA, a
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remarkable discovery wasmade during miningoperations in 1976. Workers
at the Dicalcite Division of Grefco Corporation,uncovered the fossilskeleton of a baleen whale.(with trillions of fish fossils)
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Whales,dolphins,trillions of
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fish andeven
pterodactylshave been
foundpreserved indiatomatious
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Fish fossils by the billions are packed in diatomatious earth
Billions of fossils arefound in this DE
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Billions of fossils arefound in this DE
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Some of thedozens of fishfossils in the
museum at DAL
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Copies of this fishfossil areavailable from
CSE. $5
Creta is Latin for chalk. There is so much chalk the
evolutionists call this the cretaceous age
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Chalk Cliffs of Dover, EnglandScott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990, p. 114
See Creation ex nihilo June 1994, . 46
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And the waters
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prevailed, and wereincreased greatly upon
the earth; and the arkwent upon the face of
the waters.Genesis 7:18
5. During the first few months
f h fl d d d i l
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of the flood, dead animalssettled out, and were buried,the swirling waters deposited
great piles of dead plants andanimals. These became coaland fossil graveyards over
the next few hundred years.
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Namowitz/Spaulding 1989 p. 152
In moving water multiple layers formsimultaneously with the current.
The fossil
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The fossilfound herewas deposited
first and is“older”
The fossilfound here
was depositedlast and is“younger”
Water flow
Underwater landslides are
ll d t bidit t d
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called turbidity currents andcan do enormous damage. In 1929, the trans-Atlantic
cable was cut by one going@ 70 mph, which covered
40,000 square miles!
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StrangeStories,Amazing
Facts
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FactsReader‟s
Digest 1978p. 335
“Wyoming. [A 1934 discovery byBarnum Brown, famous dinosaur
discoverer, on ranch owned by
B k H h li d t th f t
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Barker Howe, who lived at the foot
of the Big-Horn Mountains in
Wyoming] „The concentration of thefossils was remarkable; they were
piled in LIKE LOGS IN A JAM‟” (Men and Dinosaurs, Edwin Colbert, p 173)
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Four Oreodonts (small hoofedmammals) found in Nebraska
petrified in swimming position.Photo by Shelly Thiry, 414 Spruce,
Chadron, Nebraska
“Robert Broom, the SouthAfrican paleontologist,
ti t d th t th
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estimated that there areeight hundred thousand
million skeletons of vertebrate animals in theKarroo formation.”
Newell, Norman D., “Adequacy of the Fossil Record,” J ournal of Paleontology,vol. 33 (May 1959), p. 492. Newell was at the American Museum of Natural History.
“Belgium. Back in 1878 a remarkableconcentration of Iguanodonskeletons were discovered one
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thousand feet below the ground in aBelgian coal mine.”
„Thus it could be seen that the
FOSSIL BONEYARD was evidentlyone of gigantic proportions,especially notable because of itsvertical extension through more thana hundred feet of rock.‟” (Men and Dinosaurs, Edwin Colbert, p 58).
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Redwood tree stump from Axel HeibergIsland,
Creation Illustrated Fall 1999, p. 9
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Excuse me!Doesn‟t it take
millions of years
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millions of yearsfor things topetrify?
5. Petrification can takeplace rapidly.
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Scores of examples canbe given of plant or
animal material petrifyingin less than 100 years. Andrews
reported logs that petrified in 1 year. H. Andrews, Ancient Plants, Ithica,
Cornell University Press, 1947, p. 19
* Two petrified horses hooves werefound in Oregon
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Cape Leeuwin in Western Australiaentombed in solid rock in less than 65 years.Creation Magazine 2-2001, p.11 *Petrified Beehive found by Keith Bloink 810-679-2180
Chopped
Petrified wood inArizona‟s
Petrified Forest.
World Explorer
815-253-6390
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815 253 6390P.65
Glen French hasa pile of petrified
logs cut in 1930‟snear his home.The chain sawmarks are clear on the ends of
the logs. Ph. 607-698-9282,6305 Southwoods
Rd. Hornell, NY14843
Chattanooga TimesFree PressOct. 2, 2003, p. D4
The reel in the
rock was found25 li
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rock was found25 years earlier by Dan Jones
while fishing inthe Tellico River.
The entiregeology dept at
UT Chat lookedat and tested it.
They are baffled.
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Waycross, GA
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Mummified dog in a tree!Southern Forest World Museum in Waycross, GA 912-285-4056 Don
Brown has the dog. Or see: Mr. Mike Taylor 912-285-4260.
Mummified
dog in atree!
Southern ForestWorld Museum in
Waycross, GA Tu-Sat.9-5 pm.
912-285-4056, DonBrown has the dog.
Or see: Mr. MikeTaylor at the Heritage
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Center next door. 912-285-4260.
Four year oldhound found
twenty feet upin this hollowChestnut Oak.
Mummifieddog in atree!
Southern ForestWorld Museum in
Waycross, GA Tu-Sat.9-5 pm.
912-285-4056, DonBrown has the dog.
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gOr see: Mr. Mike
Taylor at the HeritageCenter next door. 912-
285-4260.
Four year oldhound found
twenty feet up inthis hollow
Chestnut Oak.
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Petrified cowboy leg found in a dry creek bed near the West Texas town of Iraan, about 1980 by Mr.
Jerry Stone, an employee of Corvette oil company.The bones of the partial leg and foot within the boot were revealed by anelaborate set of C.T. Scans performed at Harris Methodist Hospital inBedford, Texas on July 24, 1997. The Radiologic Technician was EvelynAmericus, AART. A complete set of these scans remains with the boot atthe Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas. 254-897-3200
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A mother Ichthyosaur giving birth.Fossilization is not a slow process!Creation Magazine 12-99, 1-800-350-3232
10-14-00 Dear Dr. Hovind -
Some friends of mine (Actually their daughter, Katie Crain, a high schoolstudent) dug this hammer up in their yard a few weeks ago, don‟t know how
long ago it was buried, but the houses
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long ago it was buried, but the houseson their lot are less than 40 years old.The area was used for a marine campduring WWII. It appears that the
handle has petrified in this time - it isa hollow handle with a steel pinrunning up to the head. If you areinterested in a higher resolutionpicture of it, let me know.
Aloha,
Tim Dekle Haiki, HI Kidspot[[email protected]]
Petrified bowlers hat found in Spray Mine,
New Zealand
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There was also a petrified leg of ham buried by the samevolcanic eruption. Creation Magazine 2-2001, p.11
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Fossilized crayon sent to me on
4-20-99 by Randall WilsonPO Box 248 Sanders, AZ 86512,ph. 520-688-2108
Robert Brazil 920-446-3794, E. 7530Hwy H Freemont WS has a
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Hwy H, Freemont, WS has apetrified pin cushion.
I talked with him 3-8-01 and thepictures he sent were not good sowe are getting video footage.
Petrified Manfound after being buried
14 years in
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yGainesboro,TN. He diedin 1881 and
water ranthrough thegrave andturned hisbody tostone.Ronnie West, PO Box 177 Gainesboro, TN 38562 hasdetails. 75 miles east of Nashville.
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“The 62-year-old widow in Sao Paulo, Brazil, didn‟t
have the faintest idea what was causing the painon the right side of her stomach. So she went tothe doctor‟s office, where X-rays revealed quite a
surprise - a perfectly formed petrified skeleton ofa fetus
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surprise a perfectly formed petrified skeleton of a fetus.“It is an extremely rare case,” said Dr. Jose
Remigio Neto, chief obstetrician of the Hospital
das Clinicas in the northeastern city of Recife,1,700 miles from Sao Paulo.“The fetus has been inside her abdominal cavity,
near the intestines, for at least 15 years, which is
when she said she last had sexual relations,” Mr.Remigio Neto said by phone. Maria Marcionila Da Conceicao
was the woman. Her niece Claudia Francis nee do Nascimento Pedrino
met me in Mildenhall, England 9-17-05. Her #01842-862-338.
“I was shocked when I was told I had beenpregnant for so long, because during all thistime my belly never swelled,” the widow,Antonieta Hilario, told The O Estado de Sao
Paulo newspaper Wednesday.Mr Remigio Neto did not know exactly how
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Paulo newspaper Wednesday.Mr. Remigio Neto did not know exactly howold the 20-inch-long fetus was when it diednor its sex. “We should be able to determine
these things when we remove the fetussurgically,” he said, adding: “It does appear,however, that the baby was about to be bornwhen it died inside its mother‟s body.” Nodate has been set for surgery, Mr. RemigioNeto said.http://www.s-t.com/daily/04-96/04-05-96/zpeople.htm#XINDEX2
A woman in Rockville, MD was
taken to the hospital by BrianLackey of Snowden WA 509
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taken to the hospital by BrianLackey of Snowden, WA 509-493-8728 where a petrified fetus
was removed and taken toGeorge Washington UniversityHospital. I met Brian 6-25-02 in Hood River, OR
A petrified man 5‟7” tall andweighing 356 pounds wasdisplayed for years around 1900.
Another petrified
man was foundnear Fort Benton,MT in 1897 by TomDunbar. The manwas 5‟8” tall andwas examined by
many doctors andproclaimed
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Montana theMagazine of WesternHistory Vol. XII No. 1,
Winter 1962 p. 36-39
proclaimedgenuine. Montana
Campfire Tales Dave Walter 1997,
p. 116
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Flour sacks from Eureka Springs, ArkansasJohnice Cross 479-253-2775 owns them
Creation Magazine 2-2001, p.17
Petrified Pickle
found by:R. David Cozby300 Pine Street,
Anaconda,Montana 59711
Now in CSE‟sC ti M
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Petrified Pickle
found by:R. David Cozby300 Pine Street,
Anaconda,Montana 59711
Now in CSE‟sCreation Museum
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Creation MuseumPensacola, Fla
Petrified Pickle
found by:R. David Cozby300 Pine Street,
Anaconda,Montana 59711
Now in CSE‟sCreation Museum
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Creation MuseumPensacola, Fla
Petrified Toadstool on display at Funk Gem andMineral Museum in Shirley, Illinois. 309-827-6792
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Ethan Brach (7) sent me abag of petrified acorns. Heput them in water one year
earlier and forgot aboutthem. PO Box 155 Ellerbe,
NC 28338, 910-652-2040
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Ripley‟s Museum in St.
Augustine, FL
Photo 11-12-04
Now inDinosaur
Adventure
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LandCreation
MuseumPensacola,Florida
We have what
appears to bea fossilizedcoconut inDinosaur
AdventureLand
C ti
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Replica of afossilized octopus
arm. Found byBlack Hills
Creation ScienceAssociation. Now
in Dinosaur Adventure Land
Creation Museum
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Petrified jellyfish
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1909
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See also Scientists CreatePetrified Wood in Days
Yahoo News, Jan. 25, 2005
Petrified Bear in the
collection of VanceNelson
www.creationtruthministies.org
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Petrified Bear in the
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Petrified Hat in thecollection of Vance
Nelsonwww.creationtruthministies.org
This hat petrified in afew weeks in Czech.
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Petrified Rope in the collection of Vance Nelson 403-348-5644
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Petrified Rope in the collection of
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Excuse me!Why are most
reptiles found in
the same layer?
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yDoesn‟t this prove
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glayers are millionsof years different
in age and thatfossil sortingrepresents
evolution.Scott, Foresman EarthScience, 1990 p. 138
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2005 p. 267
1. The fossils are not well sortedas the textbooks teach.
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creation debate is that the creationistshave accepted the mistaken notion thatthe fossil record shows a detailed andorderly progression and they havegone to great lengths to accommodatethis „fact‟ in their Flood geology.”
Raup, David M., “Evolution and the Fossil Record,” Science,vol. 213 (July 17, 1981), p. 289
2. The name and age of the layer isdetermined by the fossils itcontains.
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gproblem: if we date the rocks bytheir fossils, how can we then turnaround and talk about patterns of evolutionary change through timein the fossil record?”
Eldredge, Niles, Time Frames: The Rethinking of
Darwinian Evolution and the Theory of Punctuated Equilibria (New York: Simonand Schuster, 1985), p. 52
3. Any sorting of fossils isbest explained by a flood.
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Namowitz/Spaulding 1989 p. 152
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Birds
1. Habitat2. IntelligenceBirds
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ClamsClams
2. Intelligence3. Mobility
4. Body Density
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Four processes help explain thedestructive power of flood water.
Cavitation, hydraulic plucking,abrasion, and liquefaction.
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Cavitationat Glenn Canyon Dam, AZ
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Liquefaction takes place as the water compresses and
releases the sediments. Dr. Leonard R. Brand buried abird, mammal, reptile and amphibian in muddy water.During liquefaction they sorted into the order above. In TheBeginning Walt Brown p. 137
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Liquefaction causes the ground to become like soup.
Top of
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Ayers Rock in Australia is probably a giantsand plume from the flood.
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Ayers Rock in Australia is probably a giantsand plume from the flood.
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And the watersprevailed exceedinglyupon the earth; and all
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upon the earth; and allthe high hills, that
were under the wholeheaven, were covered.
Genesis 7:19
Fifteen cubits
upward did theaters pre ail and
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upward did thewaters prevail; and
the mountains werecovered.
Genesis 7:20
And God rememberedNoah, and every living
thing, and all the cattle thatith hi i th k
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gwas with him in the ark:
and God made a wind topass over the earth, and
the waters asswaged;Genesis 8:1
But God rememberedNoah and all the wild
animals and thelivestock that were
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livestock that werewith him in the ark, andhe sent a wind over theearth, and the waters
receded.Genesis 8:1 NIV
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not
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Thou coveredst it with the
deep as with a garment: thewaters stood above themountains.
Psalms 104:5-6
Dr. Hugh Ross and scores of others
teach it was a Local flood?
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15 Cubits
Excuse me!Where did all that
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6. During the last few months of the flood the unstable plates of the fractured earth shifted.
The Hovind Theory
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The thin spots sank down to
become ocean basins andother places lifted up resultingin mountains.
The runoff caused hugeerosion canyons quickly.
At thy rebuke
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they fled; at thevoice of thy
thunder they
hasted away.Psalms 104:7
They go up by the
mountains; they godown by the valleys*
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mountains; they godown by the valleys
unto the place whichthou hast founded
for them.Psalms 104:8
They go up by themountains; they go
down by the valleys*
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down by the valleys *The mountains
arose, the valleyssank down.
Psalms 104:8
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Holt Earth Science 1994 p.18
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Prentice Hall Earth Science 1989 p. 271
The crust of theearth is about
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under the
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The Earth is still settling from the flood 4400 yearsago. Pensacola has little chance of an earthquake!
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As themountainsrose up the
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and causedtremendouserosionthrough the
still softsediments.
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2002 flood in Canyon Lake, New Braunfels, TX
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2002 flood in New Braunfels, TX
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2002 flood from 30” of rain in one week. The spillway
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2002 flood from 30” of rain in one week. The spillway
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The river carved a canyon one mile long, over
50 feet deep and hundreds of yards widethrough solid limestone rock!
GBRA tours gorge carved by Canyon Lake floodwaters, SanAntonio Express-News 11/21/2003 12:00 AM
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Damage from July 4, 2002 flood.Austin American-Statesman
www.Statesman.comJuly 2002
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Damage from July 4, 2002 flood.Austin American-Statesman
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The Berlingame Canyon, Washington: Carved in 6 days!
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Slick Rock in Arizona
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The Three Gossips
The Penguins
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Arches National Park, Utah
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Bryce Canyon
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Millions of years of erosion?
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Millions of years of erosion?
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Millions of years of erosion?
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“Millions of years” of erosion along
a highway built a few months ago!
Photo of evidence of millions of years of
erosion near an ancientshore line taken 9-8-
2000.
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Photo of evidence of millions of years of erosion near an ancient
shore line taken 9-8-2000.
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Or maybe one bad storm on
a pile of sand in Hovind‟syard taken 9-8-2000.
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Floodwashout
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EasternMontana
Most mountainranges followthe coast lines.
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Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 313
Scott,ForesmanEarth Science,
1990 p.103
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A road cut in West Virginia
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Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 130
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Bent rock layers from Lake Ouachita, AR. Photo by Bitsy Cliburn
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Burdett & Ginn Earth Science, 1987 p. 192
5-7-2001, Crystal Cove State Park, LA, CA
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Bent Rock layers in San Juan Capistano, CA
After the flood, the surface would dry out first leaving the mud still softunderneath. The trapped water would tend to “weep” out the sides if
possible like this area beside Grand Canyon. Mud shrinks as it driescreating depressions on the surface. Over time these sink in andeventually connect with the main canyon.
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Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 118
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Excuse me!How did thekangaroos get to
Australia?
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The mountains rose upand the water rushed
into the low places, butthe oceans were smaller
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the oceans were smaller
right after the floodbecause so much water
was still trapped as ice.
Postflood
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beach
The shallow water can even be seen
from space!
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This Dynamic Earth the Story of Plate Tectonics US Geological Survey p. 52
Edge of land
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gbridge withlower water
levels.People came to
America fromboth sides.
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If the oceans were just10% deeper, the beach
would be here!
If the oceans were 10% deeper America would look like this.
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Lower Oceanlevels wouldmake this thebeach line.
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Mobile and PensacolaBays are generally
less than 7 feet deep!
Lower water
levels meant allthe continentswere connectedfor the first few
hundred yearsafter the flood.Populationsspread out
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spread outacross the globe
and became“trapped” on
their continentsby the rising
water.
Most marsupials are less aggressive that other
animals and would be continually driven to thefringe of the “migration wave” as the animals
spread out from the ark.They ended up being trapped in Australia with no
predators as the ice melt raised the oceans.
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Koala
Wombat Kangaroo
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Excuse me!1. What madethe oceans fill
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have a
continentalshelf?
continental shelf
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continental shelf
CREATION SCIENCEEVANGELISM
A Creation Seminar by Dr.
Seminar Part Six B: The Hovind Theoryabout the Flood, the Ice Age, ContinentalDrift, Canyon and Mountain Formation.
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Kent Hovind
c/o 29 Cummings RoadPensacola, Florida
[32503]ph. 850-479-3466
www.drdino.com
In the beginning,
God created the
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heaven and theearth.Genesis 1:1
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Last page of seminar notebook, available from CSE $8.50.,850-479-3466, Also available laminated $5.
Flood
6. During the last few months of theflood the unstable plates of thefractured earth shifted.
The Hovind Theory
The thin spots sank down to becomeocean basins.Other places lifted up to make
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Other places lifted up to makemountains.The runoff causedhuge erosion
canyons.
The Earth is almost perfectly smooth for it‟s
size.The 5 mile Mt. Everest on an 8000 mile earthis an insignificant .0625% bump. Cue ballshave bigger bumps than that.
At this distanceyou can‟t
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Scott Foresman Earth Science 1990 p. 272
even findMt. Everestor the RockyMountains.
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If the oceans were just10% deeper, the beach
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Scott Foresman Earth Science 1990 p. 272
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Minneapolis is only 670 feet higher than New Orleans.Prentice Hall Earth Science, 1991 p. 247
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A 670 foot drop in 1150 miles
is 7 inches of drop every mile.
Minneapolis is about 1150 milesfrom New Orleans.
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If a dam were built across
Grand Canyon a large lakewould form!
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Looping,meandering
rivers are
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and lowslope.Holt Earth Science 1994
p. 86
Steep sides are characteristic
of young rivers or high slope.
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BSCS Biology 1978 ed., p. 320
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Scott Foresman Earth Science 1990 p. 272
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One
catastrophelike the1964
earthquake
in Alaskashown here,can change
the realt t i
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estate in ahurry!
Namowitz/Spaulding
1989p. 250
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Mt. St. Helens in Washington,
USAMay 18, 1980
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The north slope slid
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While the north slope
slid down the mountain.The volcano was “un-corked” releasing theash and steam.
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Ash from Mount St. Helens traveled hundreds of miles.See: Creation Information Center 4749 Spirit Lake Highway, Silverlake,WA 98645, 360-274-5737. nwcreationism.net
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Mt. St. Helens was small by volcano standards.
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Mt. St. Helens blew out enoughmaterial for everyone on earth
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(24 hrs/day) for 600 years.7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson,Mt. St. Helens Creation Info Center, 360-274-5737,
www.creationism.org/sthelens
The hot mudflow coveredblocks of icethat had beenblown off themountain.
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“River system formed in nine
hours. The landslide of May 18 buried theriver and highway to Spirit Lake to
an average depth of 100‟. It alsoburied most other drainages inthe 23 square miles of the Upper
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q ppToutle Valley and plugged thevalley‟s mouth. For twenty-twomonths water had no establishedpath to the lower waterway.
Then, on March 19, 1982, an eruptionmelted a large snow pack that hadaccumulated in the crater over the
winter. The waters mixed with loosematerial on the slopes of themountain creating an enormousmudflow. In nine hours while no eye
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mudflow. In nine hours while no eyewatched, the mudflow carved anintegrated system of drainages over 7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson, Mt. St. HelensCreation Info Center, 360-274-5737
much of the valley and
reopened the way to the PacificOcean. The drainages includedat least three canyons 100‟deep. One was nicknamed “TheLittle Grand Canyon of the
th
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Toutle” because it was a 1/40th
scale model of the GrandCanyon.”7 Wonders of Mount St. Helens by Lloyd Anderson,Mt. St. Helens Creation Info Center, 360-274-5737,www.creationism.org/sthelens
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1000 feet wide
140feetdeep
Newcanyonformedin a few
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Once water starts to goover a dam the erosion rate
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o e a da t e e os o ateincreases quickly.
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Canyon in Yellowstone National Park
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Part of the “Little Grand Canyon”Lumpkin, GA, 35 miles SSE of Columbus
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Thousands of layers formed in a few minutesas the mud flowed down from Mt. St. Helens.
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New
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Prentice Hall Biology 1998, p. 279
“The Colorado River…hascut through layer upon
layer of rock over millionsof years…”
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Logs floating on Spirit Lake.
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Bob JonesE th
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EarthScience,1993 ed.,
p. 307
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Scientists estimatethere are 20,000 trees
in the bottom of SpiritLake.
Many of them are
buried upright andsome are already 15feet deep in sediments.
They seem to settle out
by species giving the
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by species giving theappearance of acomplete forest.
Some polystrate
trees are upsidedown extendingthrough many
layers includinglayers of coal.
f B f
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Picture from Bone of Contention by Silvia Baker
p. 12
(available from CSE $3.50)
petrified tree running through
rock layers (geologic
enigmas?)
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Bob ones Earth Science . 306
Joggins, NovaScotia,Canada.
1997
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A Text-Book of Geology by Charles Schuchert,John Wiley & Sons, Inc. London p. 784
Standing,petrified trees
found in YellowstoneNational Park,
W oming
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Wyoming,USA
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layers of forests
at Specimen Ridge, Yellowstone, WYhave broken off rootsand extend throughmany layers.
They did not
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150
They did notgrow there.See: ICR.ORG
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See ICR.ORG or call 619-448-0900 for more on Mt. St. Helens
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See ICR.ORG or call 619-448-0900 for more on Mt. St. Helens
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This layer of bark and organic debriswill form coal if conditions are right.
Excuse me!Doesn‟t it takemillions of
years to formcoal?
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Argonne
National Labhas shownthat coal can
form byheating
wood, clayand water at
1500C for 36
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Coal can form ina few hours.
George R. Hill, “Aspects of Coal
Research,” Chemical Technology1972, p. 296.
1500C for 36weeks.
See: Organic Chemistry6:463-471, 1984
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See Dr. Steve Austin‟s video from ICR for more on this.619-448-0900 or ICR.ORG
Coal is nearlyalways found
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Coa s ea yalways foundin layers. Thisis why we havestrip mines.Reader‟s Digest
Atlas of the World p.31
In a radio debate Dr. Eugenia Scott
said, “Dr. Hovind, There are 80
separate layers of coal in the
Midwest.
(She‟s right)
If you take a
look at the
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look at theamount of
coal …in theworld,
“the entire biomass (plants) of
the world today could notpossibly be converted to thatmuch fossil fuel.
There had to have been anenormous amount of time
involved in the laying down of
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involved in the laying down of the coal seams.” Dr. Eugenia Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education, founded to keep creationism out of schools, in a radio debate with me on 11-8-93 (WBT Charlotte, NC)
(She‟s wrong!)
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Three Remarkable Wyoming Coal Beds
The Wyodak This coal seam ranges from 25 to 190 feet thick, averaging 100 ft and is the #1 coal producing bed in the nation. It isin the upper part of the Paleocene Fort Union Formation. While thecoal bed underlies the entire basin with different names, (over 14 thousand square
miles) it is thickest in the Gillette area where it is the Wyodak. The Wyodak
surfaces in a narrow north-south band mined by eighteen of the largest open-pit mines in the world. It is subbituminous with an average BTU of 8,220, ashof 6.0%, and sulfur of 0.50 %.
The Big George The Big George lies below the Lake DeSmet coal bed near Buffalo on the western edge of the Powder River Basin. Because it lies at
depths between 1,000 and 2,000 feet, it is not being mined. Big Georgeaverages 113 feet thick, often reaching 200 feet. It is in the upper part of the
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g , g pp pPaleocene Fort Union Formation and connects with the Wyodak coal bedacross the basin at Gillette. The coal is subbituminous with a 9,160 BTUaverage, ash of 2 to 5%, and sulfur of 0.2 to 0.5 %.
The Lake DeSmet The thickest coal seam in the United States at 250 feet, it is in
the Wasatch Formation of Eocene age and outcrops at Lake DeSmet on thewestern edge of the Powder River Basin. It is subbituminous with a BTUaverage of 7,880, ash of 7.6%, and sulfur of 0.6 %. It is currently not beingmined.
Dino track in coal
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Hundreds of dinosaur tracks are found on theceiling of the Kennilworth coal mine in SE Utah.
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How did the tracks get there?
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http://www.westga.edu/geology/algs_web/bps_field_trips.html#Trips_7_99Dr. Don McDonald, Troy State University, 334-361-1296, FAX 334-241-9734
[email protected] or Samford Hendon 205-384-2466
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Coal seams can have “lenses” and branching
layers indicating rapid formation. Creation 1997
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Branching coal seams Creation Ex Nihilo June, 1994 p. 24
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Strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick!
Eagle Butte mine in WY. 10,000 square mile coal reserve in Powder
River basin. Earth Magazine May, 1993Silver Burdett & Ginn 1987 p. 231
W. V. Mr. Newton
Anderson found thisbell inside a lump of coal in 1944. He stillhas the bell.
I talked with him on4-7-98.(304)[email protected]
See: Ammunition by Norm
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See: Ammunition by NormScharbough CommuniqueConservative Publishers POBox 215, Brownsburg, IN
46112 1991(317)-852-0877photo 10-22-99
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4 1/2 inchhigh zinc and
silver vesselfound in solidrock in “600million year
old rock”Dorchester,
Mass. in1851.
Readers DigestMysteries of the
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Mysteries of theUnexplained p. 46
also Scientific AmericanJune 1851 p. 289-299
On June 11, 1891, The Morrisonville Times reported; “A curious find was
brought to light by Mrs. S.W. Culp last
Tuesday morning. As she wasbreaking a lump of coal apart,embedded in a circular shape a small
gold chain about 10 inches in length
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gold chain about 10 inches in length of antique and quaint workmanship...
The Hidden History of the Human Race
Michael A. Cremo p.113
Carved Stone From
Lehigh Coal Minenear Webster, IowaApril 2 1897 Daily News
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April 2, 1897 Daily NewsOmaha, Nebraska
Cast Iron pot
found in coalin 1912 at theMunicipal
Electric Plantin Thomas,OK. Now in
Creation
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CreationEvidenceMuseum,www.creationevidence.org
A Shoe Sole From NevadaOct. 8, 1922 American Weekly section of New York
Sunday American by Dr. W. H. Ballou. Thestitching pattern was clearly visible including thetwist of the thread. The rock was “213-248 millionyears old”.
The Hidden History of the Human Race
Michael A. Cremop 113-115
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p.113-115ph. 209-337-2200
And God rememberedNoah, and every livingthing, and all the cattlethat was with him in the
ark: and God made a wind
to pass over the earth
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to pass over the earth,and the waters asswaged;
Genesis 8:1
And the watersreturned from off the
earth continually: andafter the end of the
hundred and fifty daysthe waters were abated
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hundred and fifty daysthe waters were abated.
Genesis 8:2-3
Halak-va-shub
“Going and
returning”
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returning Genesis 8:2-3
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Prentice Hall Earth Science 1991 p. 516
Prentice Hall
EarthScience1991 p.516
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PrenticeHall EarthScience1991
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Scott ForesmanEarth Science1990 p.272
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And the ark rested inthe seventh month, on
the seventeenth day of the month, upon themountains of Ararat
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mountains of Ararat.
Genesis 8:4
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah‟s
life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. (he went in 7 days before)Genesis 8:13 And it came to pass in the six
hundredth and first year, in the first [month], thefirst [day] of the month, the waters were dried up
from off the earth: and Noah removed thecovering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, theface of the ground was dry. 14 And in the second
month on the seven and twentieth day of the
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month, on the seven and twentieth day of themonth, was the earth dried. 15 And God spake
unto Noah, saying, 16 Go forth of the ark,
Genesis
In the ark- “Feb.” 10, 600 Rain starts Feb. 17, 600Ark hits bottom (5 months later) July, 600Tops of mountains seen Dec. 1, 600Take off cover Jan. 1, 601
God says “go forth” Feb. 27, 601 Total time in ark= 1 year 17 days
Why stay in for 7 more months?
1. Water not all gone yet-still going andreturning
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returning.2. Ground still muddy.3. Nothing to eat at first.4. Nothing to build homes with
And the watersdecreased continuallyuntil the tenth month:in the tenth month, on
the first day of themonth were the tops
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month, were the topsof the mountains seen.
Genesis 8:5
7. Over the next fewhundred years the ice caps
generally retreated, theadded water formed the
continental shelf, as thecold water absorbed CO2
The Hovind Theory
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continental shelf, as thecold water absorbed CO2 life spans shortened in the
days of Peleg.
Lower water levels meant all
the continentswere connectedfor the first fewhundred years
after the flood.Populationsspread out
across the globe
and became“trapped” on
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pptheir continents
by the rising
water.
A great bookabout thepopulations
spreading outafter the flood.
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Edge of landbridge with
lower water levels.
People came toAmerica from
both sides.
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Merrill Earth Science, 1993 p. 157
And unto Eber were borntwo sons: the name of one
was Peleg; for in his dayswas the earth divided; andhis brother‟s name was
Joktan.
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Joktan.
Genesis 10:25
Antediluvian life span chart
Peleg
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There are several theories
about what was “divided” in thedays of Peleg.
1. The languages and nations weredivided at the tower of Babel.2. The continents moved and split.3. The water came up (from ice melt)
and divided the high spots into islandsand continents
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and continents.4. The land was surveyed to avoid
disputes due to population increase.
These are the generationsof Shem; Shem begat
Arpachshad andArpachshad begat Shelach,
and Shelach begat Eber and to Eber were born twochildren, the name of one
was Peleg, for in his daysthe sons of men were
divided, and in the latter days, the earth was
divided. And the name of
the second was Yoktan;meaning that in his day the
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g ylives of the sons of men
were diminished andlessened.
Jasher 7:19-20
And in the sixth year
thereof she bore him ason, and he called hisname Phalek, for in thedays when he was born
the children of Noahbegan to divide the
earth amongthemselves; and on
this account he called
his name Phalek. Andthey divided the earth
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they divided the earthamong themselves in
wickedness, and told it
to Noah.Jubilees 8:6-7
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Prentice Hall Earth Science 1989, p.271
The melting ice made the oceans deeper, wider (causing the continental shelf) and colder.
Postfloodbeach
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Average less than 150 feet deep
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As the oceans filled in from the melting ice theMediterranean would be “back filled”.
6-4-2000 Ancient Egyptian cities discovered under 30
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gypfeet of water in Mediterranean Sea. Sea level waslower at some time in the past. Cities have beendiscovered under water in Cabo de San Antonio, Cuba
and Mahabalipuram, India+Bimini Road, Bahamas(news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0528/sunkencities)
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Surveying theU-shaped
structure; andblocks on the
seabed atMahabalipuram,
India
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As the oceans filled in from the melting ice theMediterranean and Black Seas would be “back filled”.
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Summer of 2000 Ancient cities discovered under
150 feet of water in the Black Sea.Sea level was lower at some time in the past.
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Why did God destroythe world?
8. The earth still showsthe effects of this
devastating flood as ai d f G d
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greminder of God‟s
hatred of sin.
Nearly everything we see
in nature should remind usof God‟s judgement on theworld: hills, gas, fossils,oil, valleys, sedimentaryrock, layers...
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Headlines that should remind us of God‟s judgment.
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Scott Foresman EarthScience 90 p. 272
A canyon in Idaho
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Karst
topographyReader‟s Digest
Atl f th
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Atlas of the
World p. 31
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For moredetails on theflood and thehydro-platetheory we
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Fossils should remind us
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Fossils should remind us
of God‟s hatred for sin.
And as it isappointed unto
men once to die,but after this the
judgment:
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judgment:
Hebrews 9:27
Shortly before theeruption of Mt. St.Helens, TimBerends of KJSLradio inSt. Louiswitnessed to HarryTruman.
Tim told me Harrywas a “very profaneman… He listened
but rejected what Ihad to say…”
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Harry Truman
was warned thatMt. St. Helenswas about to
erupt. He refusedto heed the
warning. As far as
we know, Harry isin Hell today
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in Hell today.
He that hath theSon hath life;and he that hath
not the Son ofGod hath not life
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not the Son of God hath not life.I John 5:12
The Lord is not slackconcerning his promise, assome men count slackness;but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any
should perish, but that allshould come to repentance.
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p
II Peter 3:9
But as the daysof Noe were, soshall also the
coming of theSon of man be
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coming of theSon of man be.Matthew 24:37
For as in the days thatwere before the flood they were eating and
drinking, marrying andgiving in marriage, until
the day that Noe enteredi t th k
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into the ark,
Matthew 24:38
And knew not untilthe flood came,
and took them allaway; so shall also
the coming of theSon of man be.
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t e co g o t eSon of man be.
Matthew 24:39
For we must all appear beforethe judgment seat of Christ;
that every one may receive the
things done in his body,according to that he hath done,
whether it be good or bad.
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord we persuade men;
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the Lord, we persuade men;
II Cor. 5:10-11
Surely I come
quickly. Amen.Even so, come,
Lord Jesus.
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Lord Jesus.
Revelation 22:20
Excuse me!
Couldsomebody
show me howto be saved?
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If you died today,where would you
go?
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He that
winneth souls
is wise
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is wise.Proverbs 11:30
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Y‟all coulda
had one if‟n
youda
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youdawanted one!
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You will be dead for a loooooong time!
All you have is adash Use it for
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All you have is adash. Use it for God!
“There shall come inthe last days,
scoffers… willinglyignorant...” [of the
creation and theflood.]
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flood.]
II Peter 3:3-8
The flood
showed God‟s
hatred for sin!
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hatred for sin!
What on earth areyou doing for
heavens sake?
God
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