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Panel discussionThe Future of Cash:

a 10 year perspective

Thierry LebeauxSecretary General

ATM & Cash Innovation14 June 2017, London

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The prophecy

There will be a time – I don’t know when, I can’t give you a date – when physical money is just going to cease to exist.

Robert Reich, Economist;; former US Secretary of Labor

John Cryan, Deutsche BankDavos, January 2016

In 10 years, cash may probably no

longer exist. It is justawfully inefficient.

The Economist, 15 Feb 2007

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• 3 years after all cash was removed, transaction fees increased 15% annually

• Climate change/natural disasters: long power cuts create payment uncertainty

• Hackers broke into payment and mobile systems;; billions of private funds are missing

2050: the nightmare scenario

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The Conundrum

Access to cash is controlled by a stakeholder that has:

1. No interest in promoting cash

2. A strong interest in promoting its own competing products

War on cash = elimination of a competitor

(fair enough – unless you have control on the access to cash…)

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Norway Central Bank’s presentation,

Paris, 11 April 2016

We could not have said it better !

Source: slides 6, 13 and 14 of Mr Leif Veggum, Norges Bank, Future of Cash Conference Paris 11-­12 April 2016

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What if no alternative to electronic payments?

• How do you control your funds during uncertainty?

• How can a society function without payments during a disaster?

• What happens to transaction costs if there are only a few companies controlling all business?

• How do private people make payments between them ?

• How do you ensure financial inclusion of the less well-­off in society

X

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Cash and Crime

Crime Cash

No Cash No Crime ?

Corruption ?

Source http://www.stiftung-marktwirtschaft.de/uploads/tx_ttproducts/datasheet/Argument_136_Bargeld_2016_01.pdf

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Cash and Crime

Crime Cash

No Cash No Crime ?

Organised crime ?

Countries with upper cash paymentlimits are also those with the

highest estimated share of black economy

Source: Stiftung Markt Wirtschaft

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Cash and Crime

Crime Cash

No Cash No Crime ?

Terrorism ?Most attacks are in countries with upper cash paymentlimits

Source: Europol 2016 “TE-SAT 2016”.

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1. Certainty of acceptance Legal Tender

2. Immediate settlement Fastest settlement possible

3. No infrastructure requirement Key for P2P

4. Ease of useFor anyone

5. Ease of monitoringControls indebtedness

6. Privacy & AnonymityNot just for crooks!

7. State-­underpinningConfidence and very low risk

8. Financial inclusionNo alternative to the poors and vulnerables

Cash strong resilience

One single reason:

There is no perfect substitute to cash

9. Feel-­good factor

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The reality: cash is still king

Source: G4S 2016 Cash report: www.g4scashreport.com

• Not a cash-­less society…55% of all payments are in cash

80% of all payments under €20 are in cash(source: ECB)

• Not even a less-­cash society Value of Euro Cash in circulation: €1,100 bn(That’s 5 times the amount of January 2002…)

Since the 2008 financial crisis, increasing value of ATM withdrawals : +15% (source G4S)

Cash payments still increasing in numbers, but at lesser pace than the rate of growth of all payments.

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• Diversity of payment instruments kept costs low and competitive

• Investments in cash technologies led to a sharp increase of efficiency of cash

• Peaceful coexistence between cash and other means of payment has boosted consumers confidence

2050: the likely scenario

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Re-­think the cash business

Cash is not free to users:• Cash pays for itself (seigniorage)• Cash is available primarily through ATMs: requires a bank

account and a card, both subject to fees

No one should feel forced to offer cash services • but no one should act against the availability of cash to

consumers• There are alternative circuits to get cash to users

A substantial reduction of the ‘cost of cash’ can be achievedthrough:

• Standardisation• Clarity on the role of NCBs• Shorter cycles, local recirculation• Stronger cooperation between banks and CMCs

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A 10 years perspective…

“Forecasting is difficult –

particularly when it concerns the future”

J. Chirac

A word of caution: