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An Urban Land Institute Advisory Services PanelFebruary 2013
One HSBC Center, Buffalo, New York
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Provide leadership in the responsible use of land and in creating and sustaining thriving communities worldwide.
Nearly 30,000 members, worldwide representing the spectrum of real estate development, land use planning and financial disciplines, working in private enterprise and public service.
What the Urban Land Institute does: Conducts Research Provides a forum for sharing of best practices Writes, edits and publishes books and magazines Organizes and conducts meetings Directs outreach programs Conduct Advisory Services Panels
About the Urban Land Institute
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• Since 1947
• 15 - 20 panels a year on a variety of land use subjects
• Provides independent, objective candid advice on important land use and real estate issues
• Process
• Review background materials
• Receive a sponsor presentation & tour
• Conduct stakeholder interviews
• Consider data, frame issues and write recommendations
• Make presentation
• Produce a final report
The Advisory Services Program
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The PanelChairCharles LongCharles A. Long Properties ,Oakland, California
PanelistsDaniel Brents, FAIA, AICPDaniel Brents Consulting, Houston,Texas
Ron GerberCity of Walnut Creek, Walnut Creek, California
Art MalitoContext Landscape Architecture & LandIndianapolis, Indiana
Michael ReynoldsThe Concord Group, Newport Beach, California
Steven SpillmanPacifica Companites, Mission Viejo, California
Student VolunteerKristen GabrieleM.Arch Candidate, 2014, University at Buffalo
ULI Staff
Daniel LoboManager Awards and Publications,Advisory and Education Group
Caroline DietrichLogistics Manager,Advisory and Education Group
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Questions to be addressed by the panel
Building use:• What is the highest and best use for the
complex?• Does the proposed mixed use plan make
sense?• Are there other uses to consider?
Public Sector involvement• What roles should the public sector play
going forward?
Public Access• How would you open up the building to the
public to help insure its success going forward.
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3 What is the best means of achieving the best revitalization plan for the HSBC building and site?
Especially: How to address two
challenges:
1. Lack of market value to support cost of revitalization?
2. Loss of cash flow and ability to refinance the existing loan prior to a required balloon payment?
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3Our presentation today:1. Shaping the vision of what could happen at the site
Daniel Brents, Arthur Malito
2. Market challenges and realitiesMichael Reynolds
3. Managing the asset management issuesSteven Spillman
4. Crafting a valid public private partnershipRon Gerber
5. SummaryCharles Long
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Shaping the Vision
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• Challenges
• Opportunities
• Vision
• Steps Forward
Shaping the visionShaping the Vision
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Challenges
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Challenges• Forbidding presence
• Costly upkeep and maintenance
• Barrier between the CBD and the waterfront
• Potential drag on public finances
• Reducing surrounding impacts
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Opportunities
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Opportunities• Strategic location and visibility
• Unique high-rise offering
• Abundant parking
• Collaborative public bodies
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Vision
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Vision• Asset for stakeholders
• Catalyst for integration
• Transformation
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A positive asset for stakeholdersFlexibility to respond to market dynamics
Office
Hotel
Residential
Observation DeckBanquet
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A positive assetOwners: Competitive market niche
Image courtesy of HHL Architects
Residential Conversion Plan
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A positive asset
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Profitable
investment
for owners
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A positive asset
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A positive asset General Public: Upgrade of public open space
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A positive assetGeneral Public: Waterfront activities anchor
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A positive assetGeneral Public:
• Welcoming environment
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A positive assetGeneral Public
• 24-hour activity
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A positive assetGeneral Public
• “Green” facilities
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A positive asset General Public: Public parking
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A positive assetGovernment
• Generator of tax revenues
• Multiplier effect on surroundings
• Model for public/private cooperation
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A Catalyst for Redevelopment
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A Catalyst for Redevelopment• Available parking
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A Catalyst for Redevelopment• Transit destination
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A Catalyst for Redevelopment• Pedestrian and vehicular linkages
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A Catalyst for Redevelopment• Visual gateway
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A Catalyst for Redevelopment• Functional and attractive public open space
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A Transformed Personality
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A Transformed Personality• Weather protected approaches and public spaces
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A Transformed Personality• Attractive edge boundaries
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A Transformed Personality• Welcoming landscape at street level
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A Transformed Personality• Active, supportive and unique public uses
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A Transformed Personality• Modernized façade
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A Transformed Personality• Human scale landscape, public art
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A Transformed Personality• Dynamic relationships between exterior and interior
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A Transformed Personality• Unobtrusive security
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Steps Forward• Upgrade and modernize the facilities
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Steps Forward• Improve the surrounding infrastructure
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Steps Forward• Centralized parking management
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Steps Forward• Invest in public-oriented environmental upgrades
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Steps Forward
Schematic Site Opportunities
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Steps Forward• Program, design, collaboration, media
• Project for Public Spaces
• ULI Urban Open Space Award
• Local and regional collaboration
• Social media and mobile technology
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Plaza Precedents• Seasonal diversity
• Economic and environmental similarities
Campus Martius – Detroit, MI
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Plaza Precedents• Superior programming and social media
• Flexible design features
• Active edges
Bryant Park, Manhattan, NYC
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Steps Forward• SOR has completed a
good first step
• The next steps require
collaboration
• Beginning of a process for
recovery and renewal
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• Dated Spec and Design – building no longer competitive “A” space
• Large size and operational inefficiencies will require deeply discounted lease rates
• Cannibalization of Downtownoffice market
• Damaging to Waterfront Redevelopment Efforts
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Single Use
• Mix of Opportunities:
Office – Improved, Class A
Residential
Hotel
Retail – Ground Level
• Scale Determined by Market Potential
• Financial Viability Follows Market
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3 Competitive Environment• Forces of Growth
Investment To Date - $1B+
Buffalo Billion
Targeted Growth Industries
(ranked by 20-year growth)
Professional Services
Eds / Meds
Leisure / Hospitality
New Downtown Housing
Recreation / Casino Uses
Canadian Investment
• Impediments to Financial Viability
Scale of Market
Top Line Revenue Limitations
Relative to Costs
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3 Multi-Family Apartments• Strengths
Tight Market
National trend - Live/Work/Play
Casino / Med School / Sports Venue
• Challenges Limited scale (<80 permits/year)
Zimmerman Study – 100-200/year
Suburban SFD vacancy
• Financial Viability Top of Market Rents - $1.30 PSF
Rents Unsupportive of Redevelopment
Public Gap Financing
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Limited supply Downtown
Aging of the Boomers
• Challenges Absorption – Luxury depth is limited
Avant and Pasquale sold <1 per month
• Financial Viability $300 PSF covers cost
Low absorption limits scale and
ability to obtain construction financing
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High occupancy – 70% (STR)
Successful delivery of recent projects
Increased Downtown activity
• Challenges Pipeline
Scale of employment
Timing of Downtown Redevelopment
• Financial Viability Top of Market – $175 per night
Limited upside ADR potential
Rehab costs – outweigh capitalized value
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Iconic Building
Elevation / View
Large Floorplate Size
Redevelopment Nearby
• Challenges
Limited Market Absorption
Shortage of large-scale tenant
• Financial Viability
Glass ceiling of $24 PSF
Rehab costs – outweigh cap value
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• Identifying the Revenue Gap
Class A Multi‐Family For‐SaleDevelopment: Office Apartments Condos Hotel
Capitalized Value (PSF) $160 $168 $350 $184(Stabilized, Improved)
Building Cost $85 $85 $85 $85
Rehabilitation CostLow $150 $150 $200 $200High $225 $200 $250 $250Average $188 $175 $225 $225
Total Costs $273 $260 $310 $310
Gap ($113) ($92) $40 * ($126)
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• Tax abatements
• Infrastructure investment
• New market tax credits
• TIF
• Condo incentives
• 2nd loan
• And maybe most importantly (due to the possible
amount of needed capital) the State’s $1B regional
investment fund.
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Public Private Partnerships (“PPP”)
What it’s NOT – Not a gift, not a bailout
PPP is a win-win:
• Public Sector – Obtains community short
and long term community benefits such as:
A Downtown anchor that revitalizes the CBD
and greater community
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Public Private Partnerships (“PPP”)Construction jobs and permanent jobs
New revenues
Leverage to generate private investment
(e.g. 4-to1 or 5-to 1 private to pubilc $)
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Public Private Partnerships (“PPP”)Private Sector – Achieves an acceptable market return and
stabilized asset that would not be possible “But For” the PPP
Financial Mechanisms:
• Tax abatement
• Hazardous materials abatement funds from Federal or State
• Billion dollars for Buffalo
• EB 5 Investment
• Co-investment/participation (e.g.in return for assistance City
acquires 60% portion of site that is undeveloped or portion
thereof)
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Public Private Partnerships (“PPP”)
Exploring the terrain
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Public Private Partnerships (“PPP”)Tell the story:
Iconic Downtown high rise property- largest
office high rise in NY outside of NYC
5,000 jobs > 100 apts/yr
97% office occupancy
Over half the property undeveloped (future
redev potential/ growth) Collaborative City
Gov't w/ clear path to approvals
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3 Use the HSBC departure to catalyze revitalization.
• 40 year old building
• Mixed use enhances the downtown.
• Connect the building to the urban fabric
• Invest in building efficiency and modernization
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3 Next Steps1. Solve the balloon payment
issue.
2. Issue an RFQ to add a developer to the team.
3. Bring in real estate finance expertise for the public sector
4. Finish planning the scope of revitalization.
5. Validate the value and cost of the revitalization program.
6. Craft a public private partnership tied to the value of community benefits.
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Thank YouMayor Byron BrownSeneca One Realty LLCBuffalo Urban Development CorporationUniversity at BuffaloAll the interviewees that participated in the project, and all people that made this process possible.
A special thanks and recognition to the efforts of:Steve Fitzmaurice, David Stebbins, Dennis Elsenbeck, Yosef Goldberg, Paul Iskalo, Mark Karasick, Brendan Mehaffy, Carl Montante, Jr., Dick Mueller, Christina Orsi, Steve Palmeri, Jack Phillips, Bob Shibley, Harry Skydell, Shana Stegner Clarke Thrasher, Richard Tobe, and Ellen Warner,
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Questions?