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    Instead of making a statement on dramaturgy,

    I will focus here on describing the role dramaturgyhas had in my own work and outlining a type of

    dramaturgy that I am hoping will emerge with

    more prominence in the near future.

    A while ago, a friend of mine asked me what a

    dramaturgs role really was in theatre. He said that

    his first association with the word was that of a

    Turk who made a lot of drama. When I think about

    it now, this rings quite true. A dramaturg in my

    process is a kind of a Turk, someone who is

    somewhat alien, who maintains his or her

    otherness and distance from the process in order

    to be able to ask questions about it. And it is alsosomeone who makes a lot of drama, someone who

    asks questions about things that might otherwise

    slip by unnoticed or be taken for granted.

    Most of my work is concerned with issues of

    presence and embodiment and procedures of

    fictionalizing. I often take original material from

    other sources: films (embodying the movement of

    the actors), my private life (moving my furniture

    into my installation), weather conditions

    (collaborating with the factor of its unpredictability

    and givenness). Then I set up generators that

    process this material to produce new work. Thesegenerators are, in fact, dramaturgical structures,

    and their transparency in the work is as important

    as the material itself. I might call it a dramaturgy of

    space, which renders both the content and the

    manners in which that content is produced visible

    at the same time.

    Working with a dramaturg is for me as important

    as working with any other collaborator. I set up a

    certain dramaturgical structure (a generator),

    which might, for example, be based on a timeline

    of a certain emotion. Once this generator is clear

    to all of us, we use it as an anchor to hold the restof the elements together, a red thread that runs

    through the process and the performance and to

    which everyone can relate. A good dramaturg for

    my process is someone who manages never to

    lose sight of this red thread.

    The second role of dramaturgy in my work

    concerns the creation of the thread that connectsall the individual projects into one ongoing

    exploration. This refers not only to how this

    installation or that performance share elements

    and expand on different aspects of them. Even

    more importantly, it is about how I can use certain

    elements from my projects, as well as from other

    peoples projects, art history, politics, daily news,

    weather, my friends lives etc. in order to

    contextualize them differently in each new work

    I make. And further, how these elements can affect

    and loop back onto the original material they were

    taken from, and how they can re-appear with eachnew project. Therefore, this red thread of

    dramaturgy extends itself through my projects in

    time.

    The third level of dramaturgy in my work is the

    one I find very important for future dramaturgies.

    By this I mean attitudes that can help make

    dramaturgies of real-life events transparent. They

    may include: a dramaturgy of ones of life (how

    I fictionalize my own life to give it a grand

    narrative); a dramaturgy of community life (that

    makes visible the strategies of staging,

    fictionalizing and performing day-to-day life); adramaturgy of virtual life (that makes visible the

    strategies of fictionalizing, staging and performing

    political and other events through the mass media

    of TV, film and the Internet).

    Ideally, this kind of dramaturgy would be capable

    of underlining the network-like relationship

    between these three threads and could incorporate

    them into the art-making process, where not only

    life is a generator of art but art is a generator of life

    in a transparent way.

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    For the past ten years and more I have been

    teaching in London at one of the so-called newuniversities in a subject area (we call it Drama,

    Theatre and Performance Studies) that negotiates

    between a large undergraduate programme, which

    takes in about 150 students a year and tends to

    focus on the dramatic and theatrical end of that

    spectrum, and a PhD programme that caters

    almost entirely for students whose research

    proposals identify with the interdisciplinary and,

    for some, post-theatrical field of performance

    studies. My own work and interests move between

    these various points of identification, with a

    prejudice I suppose towards questions thattend to strike me in theatrical terms, most

    recently questions about rhetoric, images and

    spectatorship. Put like that, I know, the terms

    sound very bland no less bland, I suspect, than

    any projections I might make on the topic of

    European dramaturgy in the 21st century. At this

    end of the twenty-first century, Im not sure that

    I can get much further, for the moment, than

    reflecting on theatrical experiences that seem, for

    the large part, still wrapped up in the unfinished

    business of the twentieth century (and earlier). For

    the sake of this brief statement, Id say thoseexperiences are basically of two sorts. One belongs

    to a very particular location, conversation and

    group of people, somewhere or other in London

    through the mid-1990s, collaborating on a series of

    long-laboured and then briefly-exhibited devised

    theatre pieces under the name Theatre PUR. If

    I know or rather if I think anything worth

    thinking about dramaturgy, then much of it is still

    indebted to lessons that I learned there. The

    second experience is dispersed, distended, a thing

    of multiple parts, and has to do with being a

    spectator, in London and then, more and more,outside of London and also outside of the UK,

    following theatre in Europe, a pleasure that

    belonged at the same time to getting work done,

    as evidenced by a collection of essays on European

    Theatre co-edited with Nicholas Ridout (Kelleher

    and Ridout 2006) and a book on the theatre of

    Socetas Raffaello Sanzio, co-authored with Nick

    (again) alongside the artistic core of that

    remarkable company, Chiara Guidi, Claudia

    Castellucci and Romeo Castellucci (Castellucci etal. 2007). For four years or so, following the

    unfolding of SRSs enigmatic gesturality in

    Romeos eleven-part sequence Tragedia

    Endogonidia was, I suppose, for me the core

    twenty-first-century theatre experience to match

    those years at the end of the previous century

    spent breaking down gesture and intentionality

    into microscopic particles in lofts in Hoxton and

    Peckham with PUR. Whatever lights these and

    other experiences can cast on a dramaturgy to

    come take the form, today, of the following: some

    scraps, some scattered reflections upon worksseen and what stays with me when the work is

    done, the time that remains and that opens, here

    and there, into a thought about something done

    well that might call for a taking on of what was

    good in these encounters. Not, perhaps, this

    time, a return, or a doing-again, to be marked by a

    Beckettian lessness (Beckett having put down the

    marker for what cant be gone back on in the

    previous century, for what can only be followed up,

    though be it with exquisitely diminishing returns),

    but something for the new age (even if what it

    looks like is a resigned fiction) like an endogenousdeparture from what keeps re-appearing as of its

    own accord, irrespective of our best efforts to make

    it appear or even to look it in the eye.

    So, those scraps, followed by a few brief

    comments. First the scraps. Kinkaleris Nerone, the

    collective for the first time putting actors up there

    on the stage rather than themselves, two hours,

    more than two hours, of unremitting blackness (in

    spite of holes cut in the black floor), one of the

    actors on the dark carpet starting, then stopping to

    start again, to whip herself across her back while

    the other plays horse, all to the perpetuallyinterrupted strains of Scott Walkers A Lover Loves

    (Corneas misted / colour high ). A rich

    theatrical meditation on love and death that seems

    to be that without having to say anything about

    itself, without having to betray its topic, the scene

    or say, even, the story somehow already oozing

    its own after-image, that image (for those of us

    who were there) as vivid and viscid as congealed

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    ink. You had to be there too for Bock & Vincenzis

    invisible dances , although it will have beenpossible to talk after the show about the rigorous

    pursuit of technologies of reproduction and

    translation (actions become images become words

    become fractured gesture ) around a source that

    isnt so much absent as barely accessible; the

    extreme distension (spatially and temporally) of

    the rhetoric of the stage to produce a choreography

    of spasm and dancelessness; and talk too about

    the gift to the spectator of a theatrical experience

    turned, as it were, inside out, to be approached

    perhaps only through some sort of anamorphosis

    that will seem to reveal in spite of everything such terror and at the same time such (loving?)

    care. The same goes, although in different ways

    (for the occasion, restricting the list to European

    examples), for SRSs Hey Girl!, where the

    dramaturg function seems strangely to be deferred

    to the performative machinery of the stage itself,

    which offers up human appearance as if in

    ambivalent tribute to the imperious demand of the

    spectators (thats us) that such appearances

    should be brought forth or the New Riga

    Theatres adaptation of Vladimir Sorokins novel

    Ice, where we might stretch the point to suggestthat here the function of conjuring a drama out of

    the given materials is given over or, after all this

    time, we might do better to say returned to the

    spectators themselves. This isnt the only show

    recently where the actors have given the audience

    books to hold and look at while the show goes on.We looked at the pictures in the books, we watched

    the action onstage, and we followed the story that

    was being told to us (read out directly from

    Sorokins text) and at times performed in front

    of us. What went on for this spectator at least

    went on at once in all and also none of those

    places. And, meanwhile, something alien,

    something strange and inhuman, was captured

    and turned over to look, remarkably, unnervingly,

    just like us. Maybe, if I were to risk drawing out a

    thread on which to hang a discourse about

    European dramaturgy in the current century, itmight be the thread that ties one or another

    anamorphosis to its true appearance, a thread

    that is spun out not from makers and shapers

    behind the scenes or in the picture but from the

    twisted eye-beams of the spectator who dreamed it

    all already, and who puts flesh upon the dream

    every time the lights change, the curtains open and

    the figures come on.

    R E F E R E N C E S

    Castellucci, Claudia, Castellucci, Romeo, Guidi, Chiara,

    Kelleher, Joe and Ridout, Nicholas (2007) The Theatre ofSocetas Raffaello Sanzio, London: Routledge.

    Kelleher, Joe and Ridout, Nicholas (eds) (2006)

    Contemporary Theatres in Europe: A critical companion,

    London: Routledge.

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    THE OTHER DRAMATURGY BETWEEN

    EUROPE AND ASIA

    Japanese or East Asian theatre still holds many

    possibilities for dramaturgical activities. East Asia,

    which has its own theatre culture and tradition, has

    actively absorbed European styles and artistry and

    incorporated these other cultural dramas into its

    own for the last hundred years. Especially in Japan,

    next to the traditional theatre such as Noh, Kyogen,

    Kabuki and Bunraku, modern European straight

    plays (Shingeki) and avant-garde performances

    and dances have been adopted from Europe. For

    instance, the founders of Butoh, Tatsumi Hijikataand Kazuo Ohno, were influenced by the German

    Ausdruckstanz in their youth and went on to

    establish their unique style. Today, many kinds of

    theatre are performed every day in and around

    Tokyo. In addition, European and Japanese

    performers and directors have collaborated in the

    past decade. This cross-cultural theatre

    communication could lead to a new type of theatre

    aesthetics in the twenty-first century.

    However, there have been very few successful

    collaborations so far. Most productions are no

    more than co-operations between directors andperformers, in which the one side simply adopts

    and integrates the other, or both remain as they are

    without real confrontations with each other. The

    chances for a new theatre have not been wellutilized strategically. That is why we have many

    possibilities to enhance the cross-cultural theatre

    communication on an artistic level. For this

    purpose, firstly, we must recognize the theatre

    forms and styles of foreign cultures more strongly

    in their otherness and confront them with our own.

    Secondly, we must playfully integrate, differentiate,

    alienate and destroy them, which is possible only

    in the cross-cultural dramas.

    There seems to be no doubt that a lot of

    dramaturgical effort is needed for this kind of

    production. The experts of production dramaturgymust join their knowledge of the theatre of many

    cultures (as well as of their societies and histories),

    their experiences, good sense and unerring

    judgment. Unfortunately, very few experts can

    perform dramaturgical work for both European and

    Asian theatre. This situation produces the

    necessity and possibility to foster such expert for

    the future. Teachers, researchers and students in

    theatre departments who can play this role must

    and can make more direct contacts with theatre

    practitioners and experts from foreign cultures.

    This work is not easy but can contribute to adramaturgy that is suitable for more dynamic

    theatre activities in the twenty-first century.

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    WHEN THE DRAMATURG BECOMES OBSOLETE,

    THE DRAMATURGICAL REMAINS IMPORTANTobservations from choreographic practice

    1. When Xavier Le Roy planned his production

    Project in 2002, he didnt invite a dramaturg to take

    over the function of an outside eye in the working

    process. He was interested in the idea of turning

    the production of a dance performance into the

    performance itself. Ideally, he wanted to produce a

    presentation format in which process and product

    would fall together. That is why he was unable to

    separate the period of conceptual preparation from

    that of the practical exploration of certainchoreographic methods or from that of the

    analytical observation of the performative result.

    Accordingly, he searched for participants who were

    able to play several roles at once. They would be

    performers, choreographers and dramaturgs in one

    and therefore would be able to perform, produce

    and analyse the choreography at the same time.

    2. In similar ways to Le Roy, Thomas Lehmen was

    looking for participants who were willing to be

    involved and distanced at the same time. For his

    project Funktionen (20045) he developed amethodological toolbox with a set of choreographic

    systems that could be given away to other artists.

    That transfer was meant to lead to a potential

    multiplicity of improvised choreographies. But

    these systems were not only productive tools to

    produce works that were no longer Lehmens own.

    He also wanted them to have the potential to reflect

    the communication processes that are happening

    during an improvisation on stage. Accordingly, he

    did not look for performers who would merely

    execute certain instructions but for ones who were

    mature enough to contribute to the developmentof his methodology as well as to its exploration,

    analysis, appropriation and transformation.

    3. In both these cases, I entered the projects with

    what I had brought with me: my non-professional

    dance experience, years of studies in theatre, film

    and media and a strong interest in Le Roys and

    Lehmens work. Even though my official job title

    was dramaturg at the time, I didnt join their

    projects in this particular function, because a puredramaturg wasnt what was needed. So I entered

    without knowing my own role in advance but it

    quickly transpired that I became even more than a

    performer, a choreographer and a dramaturg:

    inspired by the experience of being involved in the

    working process on so many different levels

    (without feeling particularly competent for this triple

    responsibility) I started to document, analyse and

    put into words what was going on. This was nothing

    really special, because it was exactly what all the

    other participants did too. The only difference was

    that I slowly began to develop an interest intheorizing these choreographic modes of work.

    I asked myself which kind of working processes

    and methods, which forms of collaboration and

    formats of presentation Le Roy, Lehmen and their

    participants used to approach their conceptual

    goals. My theoretical interest and qualitative

    approach emerged from within the choreographic

    practice and was made possible not despite but

    through my rather unclear function. From todays

    perspective looking back at these collaborations

    after completing my doctoral dissertation on

    Choreography as Critical Practice I can say that anaccess to such personal relations and partly fragile

    situations needs involvement and distance at the

    same time. One has to experience the creative

    process, to get fully absorbed, and one has to find

    a way to withdraw from it again in order to reflect

    upon it. So what is needed is an understanding

    through both doing and reflecting. Just diving into

    the creative process can easily lead to an over-

    identification with the artistic practice. Just

    reflecting upon it entails the risk of applying

    external criteria that may have nothing to do with

    what is at stake. So theorizing choreographicmodes of work requires a constant change of

    position between an insiders and an outsiders

    perspectives.

    4. This personal story of a dramaturg who wasnt

    needed as such but instead as a multi-tasking

    participant and who turned into a researcher with

    an interest in theorizing choreographic modes of

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    work reveals one characteristic trait of the

    dramaturgical. I speak of the dramaturgical hereintentionally in order to highlight a quality instead

    of a function. A dramaturg has many more areas of

    responsibility than watching, writing and giving

    feedback but one central aspect of dramaturgical

    work is the oscillation between inside and outside.

    Sometimes it is problematic, because it is always

    neither/nor. In other situations this switching of

    perspectives comes quite naturally, however. And

    with regard to my particular object of study

    (choreographies that are made to reflect their own

    making), the dramaturgical could even be

    considered as one possible access to a practice-

    driven theory. Not theory that is imposed on

    practice and uses it for its own purpose; rather atheory of practice that derives from practice and

    goes along with it. This kind of theorizing has a lot

    to do with not-knowing: not knowing which

    direction a creative process will take and not

    knowing the result, but still knowing how to deal

    with such vagueness according to the

    contingencies of a given situation.

    reference

    Husemann, Pirkko (2009) Choreographie als kritische

    Praxis: Arbeitsweisen bei Xavier Le Roy und Thomas

    Lehmen, transcript, Bielefeld.

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    LISTEN AND PLAY

    When Gaby Hartel and I curated the Woche des

    Hrspiels (Week of Radio Drama), a Radio-Art

    festival presented by the Academy of Arts in Berlin

    in April 2007, our central idea was to open up the

    festival, which for a long time had been a classic

    radio drama competition and only rarely looked

    beyond the literary tradition of the radio play. With

    our festival relaunch we wanted to provide a

    broader view on the vivid interplay between radio

    art and related art forms.

    The festival opening by LIGNA, a group of media

    artists from Hamburg, was a plein airperformanceat Pariser Platz, the square in front of the

    Academys main building and a tourist hotspot

    next to the Brandenburg Gate, the famous Hotel

    Adlon, the French Embassy etc. For one hour, up to

    100 people simultaneously started to dance, take

    photographs of one another and lie down on the

    floor as if listening to echoes of history from below.

    To end, the whole swarm of participants went

    backwards through the Brandenburg Gate unified

    or, better, associated in some kind of inverted

    parade, the entire choreography conducted by

    LIGNA through instructions that the participantsreceived via radio (an approach LIGNA calls radio

    ballet).

    To show the various interrelations between radio

    and the arts, we invited playwrights, musicians and

    contemporary artists who work with film,

    performance, visual arts and with public space

    (Katharina Franck and Nuno Rebelo, Chris Watson,

    Susan Philipsz, Michaela Melin and Alvaro Zuniga,

    among others) to demonstrate and discuss how

    radio and sound come into play within their work.

    Of course, such borderline activities are nothing

    very new. Radio art is one of the younger art forms,going back (as radio itself) less than a hundred

    years. Right from the start, bringing subjects,

    strategies and artists in from other fields had been

    important for the development of radio art, and it

    still is.

    So, to answer a first question: yes, radio art does

    and will need dramaturgy. The important role of

    dramaturgs is to be curators and headhunters, to

    discover authors and artists who have the ambition

    to re-invent radio art, to bring in new methods andideas from the different contexts of their work.

    Reflecting on what is new in radio art, I believe

    one new tendency lies in the way that radio artists

    currently return to ideas of intermedia as

    prominent in the 1960s and 1970s. This period

    must have been lucky radio days of discovery and

    invention. In May 1969, for example, the Literary

    Studio at the WDR radio in Germany, Cologne,

    presented a half-hourAction Game by the GermanFluxus-artist Wolf Vostell. The programme was

    called 100 x Hren und Spielen (A Hundred Times

    Listening and Playing). The listeners were invitedto follow instructions such as Press your naked

    belly against your TV-screen, Lick the buttons of

    your radio while listening or Sting yourself with a

    needle, and have all electric devices in your

    household running at the same time. As an

    attempt to organize a virtually collective indoor-

    performance in a public/private-space, Vostells

    game throws an interesting light on LIGNAs

    approach to working with radio today.

    The experimental spirit of these early years

    seems to have had a revival, both in radio and in

    contemporary art. While positions of Action Art,Conceptual Art and artistic interventions into

    social processes have been (re-)discovered in art,

    there has been a comeback of playfulness and of

    game-like dramaturgies in radio-art too. (see, for

    example, Ammer and Console On the Tracks, WDR[2002]; Rimini Protokoll O-Ton -Tek, DLR [2000];and Deutschland 2, WDR [2002], pieces that foundinteresting ways to explore everyday life, its rituals

    and its theatrical potential as well as the acoustic

    medium in which they take place and, finally,

    language itself).

    A second tendency I would like to point out isthe new relevance of the voice, its sensual qualities

    and suggestive potential in radio and other media,

    which have been the subject of a range of radio

    plays, radio-docs and ars acustica-like productionsfor over half a decade. Speculating about possible

    Lessons from Listening, I would suggest that

    these sensual and emotional qualities of the voice

    (a big theme in early radio theory) are a

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    fundamental and physical experience for every

    radio listener (at least that is how I feel). A voicecan have a similar impact on a listener as the

    movements of an actor have on the audience of a

    film or a theatre performance you fall unwillingly

    into the same rhythm, unconsciously imitating and

    reflecting what you see or hear, like a mirror. This

    power of the voice was placed under suspicion for

    a while, at least in Germany, where it used to play a

    certain role in radio propaganda during the

    Nazi-era. It was attacked by some exponents of the

    Neues Hrspiel (New Radio Play) movement in

    the 1970s. But now it seems to be back on the

    agenda of radio art, and there are differentapproaches to how to deal with this power,

    bringing forth critical thought about perception

    and a variety of tones.

    Thirdly (and closely related to the second point),

    there is a great and still growing group of works

    that deal very playfully with the style of

    documentary and fake facts, quotes or sounds.

    Radio has the potential to mix real reporting and

    authentic fiction (Orson Welless famous radio

    play War of the Worlds, CBS [1938], is the best-known example for this method). Since the early

    1990s, genuine radio-artists like Hermann Bohlenand Walter Filz (later followed by the duo Serotonin

    and others) have been working in a very subtle way

    with mixed material from radio archives and other

    found footage. Standing in the tradition of the work

    with original recordings as developed by the

    Neues Hrspiel-movement, they have a more

    light and playful attitude.

    These three tendencies represent a quite

    subjective choice and, at the same time, express

    which artistic ideas I would like to take with us into

    the twenty-first century.

    New aesthetics need new forms of productionand, especially, of cooperation. Talking about

    institutional frameworks, I find it very encouraging

    to see that artists and cultural institutions like

    theatres, art spaces, media festivals and media

    schools as well as cultural theory in general are

    increasingly more interested in sound and sound

    art, in radio and its aesthetic potential. Radio art

    thus has already found new places of presentation,

    new forms of live performance or installation,

    which allow it to move beyond radio and to findways to engage the public in a more direct sense.

    To support this, it is important that public radio

    stations open themselves up to new ways of

    producing and presenting radio art, that they

    preserve money, resources and programme-slots in

    their schedule for experiments (despite facing

    further reductions and centralizations in the

    expensive departments of radio drama and radio

    documentary), and that they open their archives,

    support upcoming talents and realize the chance

    of finding partners and live-audiences in a broader

    cultural scene. And it is vital that on the other handtheatres, festivals, universities and other cultural

    players are ready to cooperate with public radios,

    to support independent (art-) radio and to

    introduce radio art into new contexts.

    links to artists

    http://www.90-prozent-wasser.de/bohlen.html

    http://www.chriswatson.net/

    http://www.coderecords.de

    http://www.katharinafranck.de/

    http://ligna.blogspot.com/http://www.rimini-protokoll.de/

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    When I was asked to take part in a workshop

    entitled The Future of the Text (at the conferenceon European Dramaturgy in the 21st Century in

    Frankfurt in 2007), my first reaction was: Why have

    they asked me? Among all the things in the theatre

    that I am interested in, texts dont play a big role.

    Giving it a second thought, though, I realized that

    I had reduced the word text to mean dramatic

    text or play or drama, but obviously text means

    much more than that. (I am not referring here to

    the idea of performance as text but to a very simple

    understanding of text as any way in which a

    language is being used on stage). In fact, almost

    all of the productions I have been involved in overthe last few years were text-based in one way or

    another.

    If not drama, what kinds of text are we talking

    about? Where do these texts come from, and what

    can be done with them? Over two seasons at

    Schauspiel Stuttgart (20067), I worked twice with

    Ren Pollesch, who incorporates theoretical texts,

    film clips, pop music and personal experience in

    his productions. I was dramaturg in a project that

    combined nineteenth-century spiritual music with

    texts by Hlderlin, Max Weber and Joseph Beuys,

    curated two festivals for performance projects andworked on adaptations of the Odyssee and a highly

    experimental novel by Virginia Woolf. I also worked

    on a project with Hans-Werner Kroesinger, in which

    legal records formed the basis of the performance.

    Looking at Schauspiel Stuttgarts programme,

    you will find adaptations of novels and movies and

    a large number of projects as well as new plays. Of

    course, as the largest municipal theatre in the

    region we also produce classics, but it is fair to say

    that a lot if not most of the productions we work

    on draw on sources other than traditional drama.

    For us, novels or movies are sometimes a greaterinspiration than traditional plays. Quite often, plays

    reduce complex realities to simple dramatic

    structures in order to work well. We look for

    sources that provide us with more or different

    material than can be found in the majority of

    dramatic literature and that also enable us to look

    at things from different angles, using more

    complex dramaturgies.

    The word material to me seems crucial for the

    debate about the future of texts. This materialprovides us not only with ideas, questions and

    themes but also with images, actions and, last but

    not least, something to do and to say on stage.

    But how can this material be found and, more

    importantly, transformed into something that is

    worth being put up on a stage? This is where

    dramaturgy comes in. A dramaturg is a person

    involved not only in tracking down interesting

    material but also in shaping and trimming it,

    condensing and reducing it. The big question is:

    how should this be done? I guess there are hardly

    any limitations to where such material can befound or how it should be assembled. Maybe the

    only way to find out how to do it this by trial and

    error.

    So, what about the future of the text? I do not

    have an answer but have many questions to ask.

    First of all, I imagine the future of theatre to be

    pretty pluralistic, meaning that different kinds of

    theatre will cater for different tastes and needs of

    different audiences or the other way around. Of

    course there will still be an interest in classical

    drama, because there still is and will be a huge

    audience for it. (And there is nothing wrong withthat.) At the same time, artists will continue to use

    other sources, and I expect this approach to

    become even more popular. But and here are my

    questions where will this leave the author, the

    playwright or dramatist? Do we need university

    programmes for dramatic writing? Who will come

    up with and write down the things the performers

    on stage will actually say? What will the

    collaboration between author and dramaturg look

    like? Will the dramaturg become a kind of writer,

    too in addition to his or her job as a curator,

    producer, communicator and interpreter? Are thereany rules as to how to put together what research

    and improvisation and adaptation have produced?

    What will these new texts, which develop out of

    research and take shape in rehearsals, look like?

    Can they be separated from the performance?

    Should they exist separately?

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    THE WELL-PREPARED IMPROVISATION

    A rather strong, and trendy, contempt for the

    notion of text is not unusual these days.

    Contrasting text-based theatre with theatre of

    images or physical theatre is not necessarily

    productive, either in academic theatre research or

    in creative theatrical practice. Such a simplified way

    of opposing various categories of theatre may

    become in fact a cul-de-sac. In the area of research,

    it risks confirming conventional categorizations,

    instead of opening different strategies, even in

    reference to historical material. In theatre practice,

    an underestimation of text tends to lead to adisregard of, for instance, one of the actors most

    valuable instruments, the voice. The voice as a

    corporeal fact, which communicates through

    sound and rhythm, is frequently no longer trained,

    probably as it is considered to be polluted with the

    notion of text and the meaning of literature.

    Nevertheless, it is known from brain research that

    it is precisely rhythm, sound and metaphor that

    have an enormous impact on a recipient.

    I recently worked with the stage director

    Giacomo Ravicchio, artistic director of Meridiano

    Teatret, who was, at the same time, theproductions playwright and the set designer. The

    production, called Transit, which premiered in

    October 2007, included nine actors or performers,

    among them a dancer and a musician, from

    various ethnic backgrounds. The story took place

    in Frankfurt airport, where the nine characters,

    arriving from different parts of the world, had

    become trapped in a kind of limbo when all flights

    were cancelled for reasons unknown the airport

    terminal represented the place of our collective

    terror, a place where one would probably not want

    to linger.The creative strategy and method we used is best

    described as chaos. The artistic visions for the

    project dated back maybe many years and, like for

    instance the stage set, had been prepared before

    the rehearsals began. The actual creation of the

    performance took place during the rehearsals and

    grew out of the inputs of the actors, dancers,musicians, composer and light designer who made

    up the production team. This led to a dynamic

    interaction between chance, spontaneity,

    improvisation, sudden inspirations and

    unpredictabilities on one hand, and a thorough,

    preparatory process of research and preproduction

    on the other. What kind of process is that? It is not

    a devising theatrical process, even if it in many

    ways looks like one. The playwright, who was also

    the director and the set designer, created the text

    as an integrated part of the overall musical totality

    in constant collaboration with the composer whowas present during the entire rehearsal process.

    The process of producing Transit was in a way

    very Italian. It looked like improvisation. The

    classic Italian professional secret lies in the fact

    that nothing should be as well-prepared as

    improvisation. My role as a dramaturg was to be

    the audience, the ideal spectator. This meant, to a

    great extent, to insist on reduction; on identifying

    what was the least necessary to articulate; and then

    to argue for doing even less than that. Or the

    opposite. What is thought to be clear frequently is

    not. Modifications had to be made in differentregisters; visual, sonorous, structural. The

    production was a musically sensuous and sensual

    totality and a sponge, to borrow a term from Jan

    Kott. It absorbed and emitted. One has to train a

    dialectical movement of intuition and reflection.

    This working method was in fact not that

    different from the other practice of mine which is

    focused very much on classics, especially on plays

    by the eighteenth-century Danish playwright Ludvig

    Holberg. Dramaturgical manoeuvres take place in

    close collaboration with the stage director and the

    scenographer, constituting an artistic team. It isbased on systematic academic research. The

    preparations are spread over a couple of years. It

    all aims to supply the crucial freedom to improvise,

    that is creativity.

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    Having worked for several years in a collective that

    gathers together two dramaturgs, a philosopherand four dancer-choreographers, there are a few

    conclusions and deviations that have sedimented

    over time and that still trigger our thinking and

    practice:

    Dramaturgy is the ultimate space of power in

    theatre due to its prescriptiveness, its always

    already emergent nature and the obviousness of its

    strategies. Dramaturgy is always already there,

    even if we dont focus on it; its perspectivality

    excludes the surplus of all that is vague and volatile

    for the clarity of its strategy to proceed.

    We as a group of artists were interested in the

    productive rather than the reactive politics of

    performance.

    Our products (performances) do not represent

    the relational aspects of authorship, the micro-

    politics of the group or the organizational aspects

    of collaboration, but our relations influence the

    protocols of performance (not dramaturgy). Our

    relations are not thematized but translated into theprocedures or paths of the performance (two solos

    presented as a duet; discussions on the piece

    within the performance; ready-made performance;

    non-linear genetics of the material etc.).

    Collaboration between all artists included is there

    for further individuation (not in terms of

    authorship but in terms of individuated experience

    in perception, language and productive force).

    Performances are only markers in time, singular

    results of the homogeneity of the past in thehere-and-now, but we bet on the force of

    inventiveness, on time-to-come.

    A notion of dramaturgy has become a metaphor

    for perspectivalization and disciplinarization of

    knowledge produced in the autonomous artistic

    practice; dramaturgy either prescribes or reflects

    new social relations within a performance; it might

    serve as a blueprint for a new social narrative.

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    1. Which theatre, performance or dance production in

    recent years did you find particularly important?The works of Andrea Bozic, Aitana Cordero, Ivana

    Mller, Nicole Beutler, Laurent Chtouane, David

    Weber-Krebs and Mette Ingvartsen.

    2. Which artistic tendencies in theatre, performance

    and dance do you regard as being important for future

    dramaturgies?

    I regard those artistic tendencies in dance and

    performance as full of potential that are dealing

    with questions that have not yet been exhausted. In

    dance, notions of embodiment continue to

    stimulate the creation of theatrical works but willtake on new directions. I am observing two

    divergent tensions, which pull at dance from very

    different aspects: one goes, as it were, back to the

    autonomist theatrical event, the direction of the

    image, and another moves away from the theatrical,

    seeking a different relationality.

    The most striking direction I have been

    witnessing is the revisiting of the creation of

    imagery in the theatre, as if we were to engage

    again with questions of representation and

    semiotic theory from the 1970s. But instead, this

    revisiting is inspired by very different notions and

    engages in a new, radical way with the tension

    between visual culture and bodily experience. In

    this sense the work seems not to focus on the

    semiotic, but to introduce a new approach to the

    image in the theatre. Not on what the images

    mean, but on what they do, the function of the

    images, which borrows from existing experiences

    but achieves very different effects. I am thinking

    here in particular of the aforementioned works of

    Andrea Bozic, Aitana Cordero, Ivana Mller, Nicole

    Beutler, Laurent Chtouane, David Weber-Krebs

    and Mette Ingvartsen.

    In general, the issue of creating an event and

    gathering people continues to be questioned. This

    is the second tendency I mentioned, which has to

    do with new notions of relationality. It is being

    approached by the use of immersion in installation

    works, which accentuate the sensorial. I imagine

    that new approaches will take on rhetoric as well

    and will make use of dramatic enactment. I am

    thinking here of the work of Blast Theory, Rimini

    Protokoll, David Weber-Krebs and Boris Charmatz,

    and, with regard to the sensorial, in particular thework of Felix Ruckert, Brice Leroux and deepblue.

    3. What, in your opinion, is the main responsibility of

    dramaturgy today? Do theatre and performance need

    dramaturgs? And how are their situation and working

    methods changing?

    I witness an increase in the work and need for

    dramaturgs. I have mixed feelings about this.

    Mainly I find that it is part of a general

    institutionalization of art-production in dance. It

    seems as if young makers respond to the over-

    organization of the dance infrastructure by armingthemselves with support structures, of which the

    dramaturg is a part. It shows their capacity to

    organize, but I wonder what is driving this. I detect

    a sense of incapacity to participate as free agents in

    the production of art. It seems as if these makers

    think they will never be fully able to organize their

    own art production. Perhaps it is part of the

    fundamental realization that art-making is less and

    less a matter of individuals and more and more one

    of groups. To respond to the question of whether

    there is a need for dramaturgs, I would say that

    there is a need for dramaturgy, not necessarily for

    one dramaturg (quoting from a discussion on

    dramaturgy we held in Amsterdam in 1999.)

    This means for dramaturgs that their main

    priority should be to help find optimal conditions

    for the creative process and to keep an open mind

    for the broad range of options that are possible, i.e.,

    to avoid the formatting that happens through

    institutional pressures. There is an increasing

    wealth of experiences and of examples that

    dramaturgs can tap into. The increasing academic

    attention to art production and analysis here is

    both an enormous asset as well as a threat. I see

    the relationship between maker and dramaturg as

    extremely case-specific, which means that

    strategies for working will necessarily be different in

    every new situation. It will entail any relevant aspect

    that the creation of theatre or dance includes.

    4. What are the institutional frameworks that should

    be changed in order to encourage and enable

    interesting theatre work?

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    Providing free space to allow new voices to enter the

    art production is a continuing concern. This impliescontesting existing hierarchies in art production and

    reception and, most of all, creating a climate that

    allows for new voices to come through. As the

    public debate about art has become very

    institutionalized, this is a challenging agenda. The

    increasing attention in academia to the arts should

    help in the acknowledgment of the importance of

    art works for culture in general. Still, art production

    needs to confront the challenge for visibility, orconnectivity, to create new communities, for the art

    to take part in social and political discourse (without

    retreating to populist strategies). It will be a

    challenge to create flexible structures for engaging

    with the social environment in order to find a

    legitimation of art production and a fruitful

    exchange between art and society.

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    THE ATELEOLOGICAL ENDING IN

    FRAGMENTED THEATRE WORKS

    What kind of ending would avoid finality? What

    happens when on the last page or in the last

    seconds before the blackout on stage we come to

    an end according to our watches but not to the

    inherent time of the theatre text or performance?

    And if the plot does not offer any kind of

    resolution, would it still be a proper plot?

    My doctoral research has been an attempt to fill

    the gap in critical discourse about a special,

    strange, uncomfortable kind of ending that

    disputes about twenty-five centuries of dramatheory and that, due to its innovative nature,

    requires new terms that fix its own form and

    meaning.

    We start at least with an assertion: that this kind

    of ending appears in texts and performances that

    avoid the traditional Aristotelian structure of

    beginning-middle-end and the linear scheme of

    cause-effect. The alternative to these structures is

    often fragments presented without a rational logic

    but connected through other ways. I will explain

    what these ways could be, but first I would like to

    clarify that in these fragmented plays the endingloses its traditional value of conclusion and even

    its status as a fragment that is more important

    than others. In principle, in these fragmented

    plays, each fragment carries the same weight

    within the whole. But this principle can vary,

    depending on the purpose of the artist. Some

    artists break into pieces a play or a performance

    that previously had a linear structure. If this

    happens the reader or the audience should be able

    to reconstruct the previous story (I am thinking

    here, for example, of Biljana Srbljanovics or Rafael

    Spregelburds plays). But there are other artiststhat invent a play by means of different kinds of

    intuitions or images without thinking in a logical

    structure. In these cases the reader or the audience

    is not able to identify a story, or even a plot. Ren

    Polleschs or Chuck Mees work often like that.

    However, most postdramatic performances are a

    hybrid of the first and the second kinds.

    The fragment could be executed, I think, in three

    principal ways: centrifuge, parataxis and rhizome.

    The first depends on a centre or axis. Sarah Kanes4.48 Psychosis can be used as an example for this

    mode. In the case of parataxis there is, in principle,

    no hierarchy between the elements. However,

    although there is no hierarchy between the

    fragments, they together possess a unity in the

    performance which is not a linear causal unity but

    a sense in the whole. Hans-Thies Lehmann defines

    parataxis as a common trait in postdramatic

    theatre. The third alternative is the most radical

    one: the rhizome. As Deleuze and Guattari

    indicate, in a rhizome there is no centre, no

    hierarchy, no possible connection between thefragments. I point out this alternative although it is

    difficult to find examples; the happening is the

    theatrical form that Deleuze most appreciated.

    After identifying these alternatives in the

    disposition of the fragment, which place or

    meaning does the ending in such plays have? We

    cannot use terms like dnouement or

    termination for an ending that is no longer a

    logical consequence of a linear structure. In these

    kinds of fragmented alternatives, I see three

    possible functions of the ending: (1) an apparently

    random interruption of the performance; (2) a goalin itself (like Wolfgang Iser indicates in his book

    The Implied Reader[1974]); (3) a projection of the

    performance, often induced by the illusion of an

    eternal repetition.

    In this brief statement I would like to introduce

    one more term, one that could be useful in naming

    the peculiar ending of the fragmented play.

    Accepting that it has no purpose of finality unlike

    traditional plays the concept would negate the

    idea of tlos. However, I would not like to choose a

    term that is preceded by prefixes such as post-,

    because that itself would then include the idea oflinearity. I prefer until I find a better one the

    prefix a-, which does not negate but excludes the

    concept that follows it. As a result, an

    ateleological ending does not negate the teleology

    of the linear structure but offers a new alternative

    where the terms of dnouement or plot require

    revision at the hands of theatre theory.

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    1. Which theatre, performance or dance production in

    recent years did you find particularly important?

    Eraritjaritjaka by Heiner Goebbels; Die Zehn Gebote

    by Christoph Marthaler; Tale of Two Cities by

    Heather Woodbury; Der Idiot by Frank Castorf;

    Prater Saga by Ren Pollesch; Red House by John

    Jesurun; Isabellas Room by Jan Lauwers.

    2. Which artistic tendencies in theatre, performance

    and dance do you regard as being important for future

    dramaturgies?

    In theatre: the hyperrealistic tendency, whichintroduces media aesthetics to the stage. In

    performance, the happening form, as exemplified

    by some works of Jan Lauwers and Chuck Mee. In

    dance, I am interested in the pieces of Trisha

    Brown and Anne Teresa De Keersmaeker. In any

    case, I think the majority of future dramaturgies

    will refuse the linear/dramatic form and will chose

    the paratactic or even the rhizomatic forms.

    3. What, in your opinion, is the main responsibility of

    dramaturgy today? Do theatre and performance need

    dramaturgs? And how are their situation and workingmethods changing?

    The contemporary dramaturg should be in

    permanent contact with the stage and should

    prepare texts for the space and the performers. In

    my opinion, the theatre text today is just one

    element among many components of the theatre

    production.

    4. What are the institutional frameworks that should

    be changed in order to encourage and enable

    interesting theatre work?

    I come from Barcelona, and in my country there is

    a huge difference between alternative theatre and

    conventional theatre. I would like our government

    to finance the radical theatre and the small theatre

    spaces, too. Furthermore, the professional

    manner of most of our theatre prevents the small

    productions from being presented.

    R E F E R E N C E

    Iser, Wolfgang (1974) The Implied Reader: Patterns ofcommunication in prose fiction from Bunyan to Beckett,

    Baltimore and London: Johns Hopkins University Press.

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