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    OCCUPY ORANGE COUNTY . . . IS ORGANIZED!!!

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 10/5/2011 1:23 PMOrganizer

    Hi Everyone,

    We are so excited to see everyone's enthusiasm for Occupy Orange County CA. Thank you to Scott for getting

    his online management tool up and running so that it will be easier for the committees to work together.

    This is a new tool for me, so I am learning how to navigate it. Woohoo...love great technology!!!

    I would like to bring everyone up to date as it seems that the enthusiasm is running in many different

    directions.

    Prior to this s ite going up . . . we had 80 volunteers send contact info to Occupy Orange County . . . all names

    gave been inputed into an Excel spreadsheet (we have a few more to put in) and then sorted by your areas of

    interest or committees you said you wanted to be a part of. The only two committees that I had time to notify

    yesterday were the core members of the Logistics and the Media-Print.

    The Logistics Comm ittee is respons ible for the site s election, set up, and organization. This committee is

    compris ed of the original facilitators that started Occupy pages on Facebook and the OccupyOC Twitter

    account as well as a few first responders to the call for help. More people will be added as the requests to

    oin the committee come in.

    The Media-Print Committee Core was notified last night so that the first flyers could be designed and printed

    for handouts beginning tomorrow. So flyers are already in process.

    As soon as I finish this post, I will finish notifying the rest of the Committees as to who their core volunteers

    are. Each committee needs to have a facilitator as a go to person and a person to notify the Logistics

    Committee as to their progress and if they need to reach out to other committees for additional help. Some

    Committees already have a facilitator in place as volunteers stepped up on the initial Conference call on

    Monday evening.

    The minutes of last night's conference call with the Logistics Committee will be posted today. In a nutshell,

    we came up with a win-win solution that is inclusive and allows EVERYONE to be involved. It is not a matter

    of either or, it is a solution of AND.

    The focus of the Occupy Wall Street is to expose the greed and corruption of the corporations and banks .

    That is why Wall Street was chosen, not Washington DC. The 99% of us know how our lives have changed

    for the worse...that our finances are being squeezed because of the greed of corporate America and the

    banks that are foreclosing on us. This occupation is not about rubbing each other's backs so we feel good,

    its abou t putting it in the face of the perpetrators and s aying we are not going to take it any more...thus the

    financial district.

    If you google , "Where is the financial district of Orange County" you will see that is is Irvine. Many national and

    international corporations headquarters as well as investment brokerage firms are housed in the business

    district bordered by Von Karmen, Main and MacArthur. The people who work there have no clue what is

    going, I know because until two years ago, I worked there. These are the people that need to be awakened.

    This area is the area we will be occupying on October 15th for at least one week. Prior to this occupation on

    he 15th, we will be doing progressive day occupations in surrounding cities, like Santa Ana, Fullerton,

    hopefully Costa Mesa, Dis neyland/Anaheim , Orange and it would be great to occupy a city in South Orange

    County too. We say hopefully on the last three because we are awaiting a commitment from someone to

    do the leg work in those cities to check city ordinances and possible permits.

    These mini occupations are for public relations/marketing to spread the word about the Occupy Orange

    County in Irvine on October 15th. Once we are in occupation we can take the cons ensus of the General

    Assembly to see if everyone would like to move the occupation to Santa Ana on October 22nd (which is the

    original date that the facilitator of Santa Ana had chos en). Once moved to Santa Ana the occupation can

    stay there until it ends.

    This s olution all ows Occupy Orange County CA to target both the financial dis trict and the seat of the

    county government. It is a win-win s olution that allows the numbers to swell and increase m omentum.

    The Media-Print Committee has been engaged to design fliers for the day of occupations. The flyers

    will send people to Irvine on October 15th.

    Now, the Logis tics Com mittee is working on talking to the Irvine City Officials , The Fullerton City Officials, The

    Santa Ana City Officials...we will have full reports and details hopefully by tonight.

    When Scott approached me about starting this site, it was my understanding that it was to help coordinate

    he volunteers in their respective committees and to share documents as necessary. It is not to be an all

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    Cate Gary Hali Mech Ista Shelby McMillen Linda Sw ar tz Mitc h Star Rick Spic er

    Jan Meslin Bill (Dr.) Honigman Sheryll Alexander Nicholas Hay Chris Roberts Chip Daniels

    Dean Inada Melinda Wendr ick Jennif er Prescott Shawn Roselius Tay lor Freeman Eve Mallett

    Cameron J Keith Cous ins Adolpho n Jia E Dean Inada Melanie Pollak Evee hurtado

    Jonathan Barba Thomas Monroe John Varga Tom Childress Scott Wendrick Car los Sanchez

    Jeff Froehl Diane Murphy Sloan Kevin Nelson Dylan Thompson Tommy Airey Tony Mangina

    Alec Marken Ryan Johnson Sam Aresheh Ginger Kuroishi Diane Jenkins Dean Bott ino

    Jef f For d Wendy Tarr Daniel Ur ibe Debbie Wes t Lauren Sommers A rezo Tehranirad

    Brian McNelis Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) Fabian Buitrago Dylan Holly Hallie Kelsey

    Sulaiman Syed Elizabeth Fuller ton Brooke Flores Kelly Morgan Lisa Leming Renee Balenti

    Kathryn Mudgway Mars elle Sloane Kar l Green Ron V ar as teh Erica Stelcik Cor bin Scott

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    out explosion of ideas. Ideas are to be given in their respective committees. If you are passionate about a

    particular part of the process then join the committee that deals with it. Please do not put it out into

    discussion to have over 500 or more people comment on it. We must be organized and in unity.

    All agreed upon directives will continue to be posted on Facebook, as not everyone is a volunteer. Facebook

    will remain the central place for disseminating information. Once our website is up and running, which by the

    way we are already working on (domain has been purchased). Those of you who volunteered for the Media-

    Social Media will be notified shortly. The website and Facebook will be the place for you all to get accurate

    info.

    While we have your attention, we want to rei terate that the Occupy Orange County CA movement is about

    being in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street. We all have our own causes and opinions politically, religiously,

    socially, environmentally, etc...this is not the forum for them. This movement is united as the 99% who will no

    longer take the greed and corruption of the 1%. Please keep all pos ts on this online management tool,

    Facebook, Twitter, print media , etc...focused on this one theme.

    None of our causes will ever gain momentum until we break the stranglehold that the corporations and

    banks have on our government. This is the first step...let's step in Unity!!!

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    Nicholas Hay 2:11 PM Yesterday

    this is NOT what 'grassroots" means. if you really want to unite the dissatisfied people of OC, you shouldn't be trying to

    make decisions that you think is best without taking a general vote ahead of time. at the very least you should have hada general vote among people who've signed up for Occupy Orange County online.

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 2:25 PM Yesterday

    Organizer

    Nicholas, we are doing the best we can with the tools we have. Lots of things went on behind the scenes to bring the

    facilitators of occupys different cities together under one umbrella. If you wanted to have your say, you ought to have

    been a first responder to the Logis tics Commi ttee... Once we are in as sembly, then consensus will take place.

    Nicholas Hay 2:42 PM Yesterday

    I understand that you have to start somewhere, but what you don't seem to understand is the circularity problem

    you're creating. if having the first general assembly in Irvine dissuades people from participating, then of course

    people who do participate are going to be more interested in staying in Irvine. It's like throwing a party

    in Antarctica and then s aying "everyone who came loved it."

    And sentiments like "if you wanted to have your say" are quite condescending and kind of self-serving. I listened

    very intently to the first organizational con ference call, and if you had made it known you'd be deciding where to

    have the first general assembly, you would have had far more interest. And more to the point, this isn't how

    committees are supposed to work. They don't make decisions on everyone else's behalf, they create a concise

    report that everyone els e can cons ider and then vote on. Even that wouldn 't have been represen tative of everyone

    who wants to participate, but it would have been closer at least. Thatwould have been the best we could do with

    the tools we have.

    But what's done is done, and "Irvine on the 15th" is in the m edia. I only hope that you can begin to break out of

    the hierarchical-organizational thinking that's the very reason "the 99%" has come into existence.

    Also, I don't know if I'm speaking to D'Marie or whom else , but I think everyone would appreciate it if you used your

    real name. Speaking from behind the name of an organizational label does not engender trust and camaraderie.

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    Melinda Wendrick 12:01 AM Today

    Stop complaining! Oh m y word! What do you want to be a part of Nicholas? We are ORGANIZING a function

    to get together so we can express our ideas with people . If you would like to s tart your own Occupy and

    plan everything, I wil l be there to support you, if you want to be a part of this group then be A PART of it and

    make some suggestions or give us an IDEA. Don't just slam the people that are trying.

    Ron Anger 2:49 PM Yesterday

    Never divide your forces. Always m ake the first blow a powerful major blow. You need to concentrate on ONE spot,

    Santa Ana. Then you can branch out AFTER you are able to rally more s upport.

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 3:00 PM YesterdayOrganizer

    Yes, this is D'Marie...I am not hiding behind anything...This was s et up for me by Scott...

    This is a huge undertaking . . . You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes...nor do you see all the people that

    are volunteering to be a part of this project. . . . we talking about organization . . . I was in LA on Sunday. . . everything

    was run by Committees taking proposals to General Assembly.

    Last night the Logistics Committee made decisions...today they are doing their feasibility exercises . . . so details can

    be pinned down...people are actually getting things accomplished so this can happen . . . and not get stalled in General

    Assembly which is exactly what happened at the General Assembly in LA.

    You can't vote on possib ilities ...you have to vote on ideas that are backed up with concrete facts...we are getting the

    facts. Minutes from last nights call is going up.

    And then I've got to finish my work with the comm ittees.

    Nicholas Hay 3:17 PM Yesterday

    It takes 5 seconds to change your profile name. I think we'd all feel more comfortable with that.

    You accuse others of not having the facts, but it hardly seems like you do--certainly not popular opinion. That's a

    concrete fact.

    And things may be slow in the LA General Assembly, but that's how grassroots democracy works. It's messy and

    slow. That's a concrete fact.

    And yes, you do in concrete fact vote on possibilities. Like one possible president or another, or one possible

    place to organize or another. That's a concrete fact, and you're just s plitting hairs about the difference between

    possibilities and ideas.

    Your attitude is completely messed up. No one's said that you're not working hard to make this happen. But you

    are being unilateral about it and telling others to fall in line with your decisions. That's exactly why everyone's so

    dissatisfied with the political establishment and the economic status quo. And no matter how much work you putinto this venture, if you alienate people who want to participate you'll have accomplished nothing, no matter how

    many permits you get.

    I'm not trying to be divisi ve here; I'm actually trying to be inclusive. It shouldn't su rprise you that more people are

    participating now. It's not like everyone found out about the facebook group you started at the exact same time.

    Does that mean their opinions don't count? I certainly hope you don't think so. But my worry is that in your fixation

    on moving forward, you'll end up leaving a lot of people behind.

    Melinda Wendrick 12:05 AM Today

    Nicholas you troll! Stop holding up progress and do something besides complain!

    Cameron J 10:22 AM Today

    that's how democracy works, you lis ten to the needs of the people. if he's complaining, it meansthere is a problem to be addressed . you clearly cannot understand this s imple concept.

    Melinda Wendrick 6:18 PM Today

    Yes, there is a problem. However, blaming someone instead of suggesting ideas gets

    everyone nowhere. We are all open to suggestions, but from what if read sifting through all of

    the posts is that someone eager to start something in their own city got excited n got a hold of

    the media got a jump start n now because of the OC label while santa ana may be the right

    place to actually start and what the people want, its almost an obligation to show up in Irvine.

    However she is arranging a Santa ana meet for everyone as well as a few other sites.

    Besides the fact of not having it where everyone wants it. I personally hope we get everyone

    on the same page soon and form some i deas with all the open m inded, creative people, that

    are out for the same cause that I know we have! :)

    We have someone taking initiative with flyers, they just went ahead and did it, asked for

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    everyones opinions and its getting done! Let us know if you are working on anything and ask

    for help, maybe you have a brill iant idea to get attention, or a person to get ahold of free food!

    We wanna know about it! Someone also told us on here that they know a hold bunch of

    musicians that are down to come out n play. :)

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 3:01 PM YesterdayOrganizer

    Ron, I believe you are part of the PR Com mittee not the Logis tics Com mittee..again you don't have all the facts.

    Ron Anger 3:05 PM Yesterday

    Hasn 't the government been corrupted by the greed of Wall Street? Isn't the government the ones that have allowed

    themselves to be bought by Wall Street? Then why not protest the government also? They are the ones who need to

    change the laws and reflect the will of the people. Concentrating on Wall Street seems to be focusing on only part of the

    problem.

    profile removed 3:11 PM Yesterday

    D'Marie, We appreciate your efforts - it's j ust that this i s OUR m ovement. and we want to be a part of it AND we want

    others, esp. those who are usually underrepresented. It is thwarting the energy of many people when only one person

    seems to control it. Please try to understand. Maybe we can start all over again and meet in Santa Ana and send out the

    call? Irvine is not central enough and Santa Ana has lots of banks by South Coast Plaza!

    profile removed 3:15 PM Yesterday

    So you bypass ed us and are planning it ...fine...go ahead..call the protes ts and I'll go. I won't have to be bothered w/ the

    beautiful struggle of democracy - on the other hand I know you want this to be successful, as we all do. It's just that we

    should have planned a face to face before...But this s the way we do in OC too often. We're all leaders cos we all have a

    voice.

    P.S. Who is Scott and who is he associated with?

    Melinda Wendrick 12:08 AM Today

    Scott is my husband and he is not associated with anyone, we heard about the occupy and wanted to help.

    profile removed 3:18 PM Yesterday

    What is goin on in LA is beautiful - it DOES take a few days to work out kinks i n working w/ each other. And now , today,

    they have recieved the verbal comm endation o f the City Council and the LAPD. They will probably be granted via

    emergency resolution the abil ity to camp on the grass all night and day! Moving the tents at 6 AM is a huge drag!

    Sam Aresheh 3:32 PM Yesterday

    D'Marie

    Nicolas and Sharon bring up great arguments and it need to be addressed. As me being apart of lasts nights "logistics

    committee" I am stating that I am not more qualified then any of these people and just because I got on the conference

    does not mean these peoples opinion are any less valuable. You can't keep ignoring and moving forward

    THAT IS NOT A SOLUTION to unity. These decis ions were made by 5 people 3 or four of which lived in Irvine. Santa

    Ana is the 4th largest DENSILY populated city in the United States of America and it is being over-looked although therehas been a growing number of people saying that Santa Ana should be the place of focus. The 1% tends to ignore

    people and m ove forward without a majo rity consent, let's not act like them. I wouldn't want to be apart of a logis tics

    committee that everyone thinks they don't listen or value their opinion because they didn't make it to a phone

    conference. Everyone shou ld get an equal say so and everyone shou ld be qualified for this "logis tics comm ittee." This

    is getting out of control and needs to be addressed period.

    Melinda Wendrick 12:10 AM Today

    I live in Irvine and I'm totally down to go to Santa Ana. I'm originally from Michigan so I don't know which would be

    a better place to do this . Wherever you will be, I will be :D

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 2:36 AM Today

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    Aaron,

    You were miss ing in action tonight. Your comment is totally misleading. We have not overlooked Santa Ana. I

    told you that on the call. I told you I was in favor of moving to Santa Ana on October 22nd, the date you had picked

    for the occupation there. We discussed that it was important that the financial district in Irvine be targeted on

    October 15th as it is considered as the financial district of Orange County. That we would occupy Irvine and as

    the people came into occupation, we would put it to general assembly for consensus to move the occupation to

    Santa Ana on October 22nd. It makes sens e to have a GA when the peop le are together. The people are not

    together yet. I am very disappointed that you have not communicated w ith me or anyone els e on the Logis tics

    Comm ittee. You were to report back so we all could go wi th you on Friday to Santa Ana for a mini day of

    protesting and handing out flyers. You told me that you would work with our onli ne Media people, yet the

    webs ite is a ll about Santa Ana on October 22nd. You said you were going to support Occupy Orange County in

    Irvine. I would like to very much to see that support, and in turn I am very happy to support OOC in Santa Ana on

    October 22nd. Once the GA gives the green light for Santa Ana on October 22nd those in occupation in Irvine willhand out flyers encouraging everyone to occupy Santa Ana. Then the seat of government in Orange County will be

    occupied.

    It is unique to Orange County because we are occupying as a county not a city. This solution is win-win and it

    includes everyone!!!

    I hope to hear from you soon.

    D'Marie

    Brooke Flores 3:34 PM Yesterday

    Why can't we vote for the location.. As far as i could tell there was a poll up on this s ite earlier today and Santa Ana had

    the majority vote.

    profile removed 3:36 PM Yesterday

    Sam, have we checked on perm its for parks in Santa Ana to occupy? Best. St.

    Nicholas Hay 3:39 PM Yesterday

    I've said this elsewhere. Since it's already in the press, I guess arguing about whether or not we'll be in Irvine in the 15th

    is kind of moot. So could we get an itinerary for that day ASAP? Since it's the global and international day of protest, I

    think it's important to make a showing. But since the Orange County branch of the protests are truthfully just getting

    started, I think you/we should plan at least 2-3 hours for a Preliminary General Assembly meeting so we can discuss a

    long-term location more openly and arrive at a decision more dem ocratically. Not to undervalue the work you've put in

    so far, but it's only the tip of a very large iceberg.

    Similarly we should start thinking about carpools from various parts of the county so that we can get as many potential

    participants to that meeting as possible, so that the decision can be as representative as we can make it. Are we going

    to have translators for people who don't speak English as their first language? They deserve to be included. Facebook

    isn't the center of the world, and there's no reason we shouldn't start reaching out to people in San ta Ana, Garden Groveand els ewhere, right now.

    I understand that there are only 10 days before the planned "big day", and if we're going to move forward with doing that

    in Irvine, then I think we--as organizers, all of us--need to send the message very clearly that this is only preliminary,

    and that's we're going to be proactive about including people. "You should have said something" is the most surefire

    way to destroy a movement form the inside out. Part of "grassroots" means seeking out potential allies and asking for

    their input, not presum ing that they know about you and waiting for them to come to you.

    If there's anything you'd like the E&E committee to start organizing--speeches, music, an arts & crafts hour--it would

    help to know ASAP.

    Melinda Wendrick 12:14 AM Today

    Nicholas,

    Now that you are starting to make sense...go to the people that you wish to collect, start calling people...our

    phone numbers are ready for you, our emails are out there! Get some people together and start spreading the

    news. Start planning the transportation. Make a page to link people with open seats in their cars to get there. :)

    Melinda Wendrick 12:17 AM Today

    If you are apart of the E&E group. Start planning s omething with the people in your group, then tell D'marie what

    you have in m ind. I'm sure s he would be extremely happy that you are participating. Tell he r how you want your

    segment to go...just be involved

    Diane Jenkins 3:40 PM Yesterday

    Leg work South Orange County - I live in Laguna Niguel, thank you Diane Jenkins - Laguna Beach has an open mind

    too.

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    profile removed 3:47 PM Yesterday

    It doesn't matter if it's in the pres s, becaus e we can als o ocupy one in Santa Ana. I vote each city should have their own

    occupation and you choose which city. Claiming to represent OC was a horrible idea i nthe first place. Esp. being white

    middle aged people for the mos t part.

    Our occupation doesn't have to be Irvine's occupation. We dont want to draw bad attention, but when the decisions are

    chosen by an elite (meaning early and people who got the invite's first), we have to call it out as not part of the ows

    movement.

    profile removed 3:51 PM Yesterday

    It's not moot. It's es sential . Are we going to go play at democracy? I can do that right now. Or will it be the real thing !

    I want the real thing baby!!!!

    Nicholas Hay 4:08 PM Yesterday

    working together is also essential. 500 people in the s ame place have a lot more impact than 50 people in 10

    different places. but with that said, i'll wait to read D'Marie's next thoughts on the discussion that's taken place.

    profile removed 4:15 PM Yesterday

    Alot of students want it in Santa Ana. So there may be more in Santa Ana than there are in Irvine.

    Yes, let's hear from our leader ....?

    That's the whole point!!

    profile removed 4:15 PM Yesterday

    maybe som e people a ren't ready for democracy, but many of us are...We want it straight up!

    Brian McNelis 5:03 PM Yesterday

    Santa ana is a better location. Occupy orange county somewhere juss do it.

    Sheryll Alexander 8:43 PM Yesterday

    Freelance Writer, Editor and Promotions Guru

    WOOT! LOVE! PLEASE send me a ll the emails of the Media-Social Media team. Thanks!!

    profile removed 12:14 AM Today

    Wow - who is trolling - am i not seeing it?

    That's why we need face to face w/ everyone all the time. And why we must decide all things w/consensus, then form

    committees. We need to know what our unity is based on - what we a ll want...I won't be on any conf. calls. :>*

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 2:22 AM Today

    Organizer

    One of things about the Internet is that its easy to sit behind a screen and give your opinions and ideas. Everyone has

    them. But then when it actually comes time to do the work a fraction of the people show up. We had almost 100 people

    RSVPed to be on a simple Conference Call to introduce what was in the works and to invite people into committees. 39

    People showed up and all they had to do was pick up a cell phone!!!

    I have done more than jus t open a web page. I traveled to Occupy LA, I was there from 2:30 PM till 9:30 PM on Sunday. I

    talked with people who have been in the occupation from the beginning. I witnessed the General Assemby and the

    fiasco that it is. Another person witnessed GA in operation in San Diego...same thing.

    I am tired of answering everyone's bitching and quite frankly that's what it is. The logistics committee is comprised of

    young and mature peop le. They are working together wonderfully. Two on the committee have years of experience

    putting on demonstrations in Orange County and are well connected with the Irvine City officials. And they are not all

    from Irvine. I am not from Irvine.

    I have planned over 500 events with my non profit and have organized Plan of Action meetings for over 400 sales

    agents; coordinating everything from travel, lodging, si te venue, catering, med ia, print, and general everyday

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    opera ons... now ow o p an even s. e a rea y ave me a coverage. e ave pro ess ona peop e on oar .

    don't have to jus tify what is going on . . . it is going on .

    The momentum is growing by leaps and bounds everyday . . . you can be part of the process . . . or you can sit on the

    side lines ...whether you are involved in com mittees as volunteers or not . . . you can show up to occupy with us . . . or you

    don't have to. You can be in Irvine on the 15th o r you can go to Santa Ana on the 22nd or you can do both or do neither. I

    really don't care.

    I will be in the Financial Distriction on October 15th...with my signs in hand . . . whether I am alone or with 5,000 people.

    I set the intention when I created the Occupy Orange County Facebook page to do this, and I wil l do this .

    "I will not fear . . . I was born to do this." ~ Joan of Arc

    Bill (Dr.) Honigman 2:59 AM Today

    I'll be there, too. :-)

    Dr Bill

    Occupy Orange County (D'Marie) 3:16 AM Today

    Organizer

    Thanks Dr. Bill . . . I look forward to marching with you!!!

    Dean Inada 4:01 AM Today

    If you haven't marched with Dr. Bill be fore, that may explain how s ome of us who have only known

    you sitting behind a screen could get the impression you are suddenly trying to take over themovement.

    (I don't really care whether you are or not, so much as whether the movement progresses)

    I have another commitment on the 15th, but it will be an opportunity to promote the Irvine and Santa

    Ana actions to m any people, and m ay join you later that day if I have any energy left by then.

    Nicholas Hay 9:24 AM Today

    you were the 1%, and now that you're not, you have no idea how to stop acting li ke it.

    Ginger Kuroishi 10:16 AM Today

    Just because someone voices their opinion is it not "bitching". It is an observation. I didn't know about

    Occupy Orange County until after the initial conference call. So to s ay that orginal participates are the coregroup in a mi srepresention. I listen to the call and it s eems because the numbers were s o few there were

    only a few people who actually volunteered to organize. Now that it is growing it is time to disperse this

    power. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely. The only focus should be to let the government and Wall Street

    realize the American public is disgusted and frustrated will their dictatorship. Since this was an organic

    movement everyone needs to be adaptable to what is happening. I am an expert and networking and PR. If

    you will notice your numbers have jumped 100 in one day on Facebook.

    I was as ked to be a lias on for education and entertainment due to my connection to the music bus iness

    here in Orange County which I would be happy to do as l ong as I continue to have automony. I am a free

    thinking American and will not have commitees dictate to me what to do. If this continues to be a "do what

    and say and that's it" forum.. I am outta here.

    And if you thinking Ron Anger doesn't know what he is talking you would be sorely mistaken.

    You would be very fortunate to have his ins ight. and experience.

    profile removed 2:53 AM Today

    Bitching is different that standing up for principle. Our principles are not united . Some expect true leaderless,

    grassroots , face to face dialoguing between equals rather than having "all the problems sewn up" before we even start.

    Many of us want to be involved in s omething which each of us creates, together, from the roots up, a revolution. Most

    likely, you are too!

    Your work is admirable!! So hopefully, we can create a movement together. Each needs to understand and support one

    another and be in soli darity! We argue to hammer out principles and come to a consensus on the core iss ues, so we

    know we are all on the same page. The people UNITED will never be defeated.

    So, I won't be staying on w/ this group, but I wis h you Good Luck! Much Success in creating a m ovement!!! See you on

    the 15th!

    Chris Roberts 9:25 AM Today

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    Evee hurtado 11:50 AM Today

    "It is unique to Orange County because we are occupying as a county not a city. This solution is win-win and

    it includes everyone!!! "

    This is the problem, you absolutely believe your way of doing this includes everyone. Clearly you and I , and the

    majority of this movement have different definitions of 'everyone'.

    I'm not by any way lashing out at you, but your method of "This is how 5 of us agreed upon, and that's the way

    it'll be" sounds very much like the corruptness we are trying to stand against.

    We don't need this in our movement. Your best interest should be in the people in this movement, the people in

    this movement decide what happens, the people in this movement have a say and should be

    listened, especially when the majority is trying to get through to you.

    This needs to be a democracy, and I'm failing at seeing this as one.

    What was the point of having that poll asking whether the occupation should be held at S anta Ana or Irvine, if

    you were just going to ignore those results?

    Sheryll Alexander 11:57 AM Today

    Freelance Writer, Editor and Promotions Guru

    The Occupation is set and includes both Irvine and Santa Ana as well as other local Occupy groups. What more could

    you ask for? Let's just now work together to m ake this the BEST it can be!! GET ON THE BANDWAGON PEOPLE!!

    Dean Inada 12:53 PM Today

    have you seen this: http://www.meetup.com/occupytogether/Irvine-CA/

    Marselle Sloane 1:11 PM Today

    Thanks for the link Dean. I'll be there too Dr. Bill. I'll be at the peace rally at HB Pier Sunday as us ual reaching out. Is

    there a flyer I can download for distribution?

    Power to the people.

    peace

    Dean Inada 1:43 PM Today

    see also

    http://dailykos.com/story/2011/10/04/1022722/-Occupy-Wall-Street:-List-and-map-of-over-200-US-solidarity-events-and-

    Facebook%C2%A0pages

    Tom Childress 4:14 PM Today

    I need ALL of the Civic Liaison folks to contact me or Marcella Sloan. We are proceeding ahead with the SA permit

    process. We will also need to hear from Logistics and Accounting. There is no more time for these petty squabbles.

    Bring your opinions to the rally. Put them on a b ig s ign and walk your little feet off. Just be there. Now, we have work to

    do, and I strongly sugges t that we get to it. So please contact the Civic liais on Comm ittee ASAP.

    Best regards to my fellow patriots ! Also, I have been trying to contact Andre for three days now. What's up. Can't do

    business like this.

    Marselle Sloane 4:22 PM Today

    How does everyone feel about a meeting on Monday evening October 10th. at my house in Fountain Valley? This is just

    to get to know each other over some noshes and brainstorm som e ideas for Occupy OC with emphas is on outreach

    and the long term.

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