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 3/ 8/2015 NA SA, CNES Wa rn Spac e X of Ch alle nges in Fly in g Re us a ble Fa lcon 9 Ro ck et | On Space ht tp: //aviationwe ek.com/blo g/nasa-c nes- war n- spacex-c halle nges-f ly ing- reusable -f alc on-9 - rocket 1/ 7 Stor e Subsc ri be RSS eBulle tin Adv ert ise Contact Us May 5, 2014 RSS Tweet  COMMENTS 9 ON SPACE NASA, CNES Warn SpaceX of Challenges in Flying Reusable Falcon 9 Rocket  by Amy Svi tak  in On Space In theory, the SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 booster can be reused more than threedozen times. That's because the rocket's LOX/Kerosene Merlin 1D engine ‐‐ nine of which power its first stage ‐‐ has a cycle of 40, according to Stella Guillen, SpaceX director of business development. "It's not obviously the entire system or the entire stage," she said during a space conference in Paris last month. “We don't know how many times we can fly the first stage. But the engines have a cycle of 40.” As part of the company's goal to dramatically lower the cost of space launch, Hawthorne, Calif.based SpaceX is slowl y moving out on a strategy to test the reusable Falcon 9 core stage with the goal of eventually recovering and reflying the entire rocket, Guillen says. But even without firststage flyback, the Falcon 9 is already the lowestcost rocket on the commercial market today. Able to throw 4,850 kg of payload to supersynchronous transfer orbit at roughly $60 million per launch, it bests even the Chinese Long March 3B at $70 million a pop. Noting that the cost of fuel, oxygen and other expendable liquids in the rocket amounts to  just 0.3% of the cost of a Falcon 9 mission, SpaceX CEO and founder Elon Musk says there is potential to further lower the cost by a factor of more than 100, assuming a high launch rate and the ability to fully and rapidly reuse the entire rocket, including its first and second stages. “This is a difficult thing to achieve,” he told an annual U.S. ExportImport Bank conference in Washington April 25. “A lot of people in the aerospace industry think it's not possible, and most in industry have given up on it. But we think it's possible.” Among the doubters is NASA Deputy Associate Administrator Dan Dumbacher, a former Space Shuttle engineer who leads the agency's exploration systems development. Dumbacher says the agency learned a lot from its experience with the orbiter's reusable Space Shuttle Main Engines (SSMEs). “We tried to make the engines reusable for 55 flights,” he said in Paris last month. “Look how long and how much money it took for us to do that, and we still weren't successful for all parts.” While NASA is using SSMEs to power its new heavylift Space Launch System (SLS), Dumbacher says the cost of refurbishing the engines means the agency has no plans to < MARCH 2015 > What's On Space? On Space Blog Archive HOME > BLOGS > ON SPACE > NASA, CNES WARN SPACEX OF CHALLENGES IN FLYING REUSABLE FALCON 9 ROCKET SHARE  129 Recommend mo tu we th fr sa su 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 T echnol ogy Commer c ial Avi atio n Sp ace D efense Busi nes s Av iatio n MRO  Events  Aviation Week Intelligence Network  REGISTER  LOG IN

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  • 3/8/2015 NASA,CNESWarnSpaceXofChallengesinFlyingReusableFalcon9Rocket|OnSpace

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    ON SPACENASA,CNESWarnSpaceXofChallengesinFlyingReusableFalcon9RocketbyAmySvitakinOnSpace

    Intheory,theSpaceXFalcon9v1.1boostercanbereusedmorethanthreedozentimes.

    That'sbecausetherocket'sLOX/KeroseneMerlin1Denginenineofwhichpoweritsfirststagehasacycleof40,accordingtoStellaGuillen,SpaceXdirectorofbusinessdevelopment.

    "It'snotobviouslytheentiresystemortheentirestage,"shesaidduringaspaceconferenceinParislastmonth.Wedon'tknowhowmanytimeswecanflythefirststage.Buttheengineshaveacycleof40.

    Aspartofthecompany'sgoaltodramaticallylowerthecostofspacelaunch,Hawthorne,Calif.basedSpaceXisslowlymovingoutonastrategytotestthereusableFalcon9corestagewiththegoalofeventuallyrecoveringandreflyingtheentirerocket,Guillensays.

    Butevenwithoutfirststageflyback,theFalcon9isalreadythelowestcostrocketonthecommercialmarkettoday.Abletothrow4,850kgofpayloadtosupersynchronoustransferorbitatroughly$60millionperlaunch,itbestseventheChineseLongMarch3Bat$70millionapop.

    Notingthatthecostoffuel,oxygenandotherexpendableliquidsintherocketamountstojust0.3%ofthecostofaFalcon9mission,SpaceXCEOandfounderElonMusksaysthereispotentialtofurtherlowerthecostbyafactorofmorethan100,assumingahighlaunchrateandtheabilitytofullyandrapidlyreusetheentirerocket,includingitsfirstandsecondstages.

    Thisisadifficultthingtoachieve,hetoldanannualU.S.ExportImportBankconferenceinWashingtonApril25.Alotofpeopleintheaerospaceindustrythinkit'snotpossible,andmostinindustryhavegivenuponit.Butwethinkit'spossible.

    AmongthedoubtersisNASADeputyAssociateAdministratorDanDumbacher,aformerSpaceShuttleengineerwholeadstheagency'sexplorationsystemsdevelopment.Dumbachersaystheagencylearnedalotfromitsexperiencewiththeorbiter'sreusableSpaceShuttleMainEngines(SSMEs).

    Wetriedtomaketheenginesreusablefor55flights,hesaidinParislastmonth.Lookhowlongandhowmuchmoneyittookforustodothat,andwestillweren'tsuccessfulforallparts.

    WhileNASAisusingSSMEstopoweritsnewheavyliftSpaceLaunchSystem(SLS),Dumbachersaysthecostofrefurbishingtheenginesmeanstheagencyhasnoplansto

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    reusethem.

    Allwe'regoingtobedoingisworkingonthemanufacturabilityandgettingthecostdown,Dumbachersaid.We'regoingtoretainthereusabilitythat'sinthere,butI'mactuallygoingtothrowthemaway.

    Dumbachersaidunlikecommercialairliners,rocketshavelimitedflightopportunities,presentingachallengetoengineersintermsofmeasuringandunderstandingtheenvironmentsinwhichlaunchvehiclesoperate.

    Intheairlineindustry,youhavelotsofflights,lotsofrepetition,lotsofopportunitytogolearn,figureoutwhatbroke,andfixit,hesays.Withlaunchvehicles,we'velaunchedalot,butnottotheorderofmagnitudewehavewithairplanes.

    DumbachersaidtheSpaceShuttlesolidrocketboosterswerelikewiseproblematic,requiringtoomuchoverhaultojustifythecostofreusingthem.

    We'dpickthemoutoftheocean,butwespentalotoftimecleaningthosethingsupwhenwegotthemback,inspectingthehardwaretomakesurethatitwasstillgoodtogo,hesaid.

    Inadditiontophysicschallenges,Dumbachersaidtheeconomicsoflaunchingreusablerocketsisakeyfactortoconsiderinjustifyingthecost.Youhavetounderstandtheeconomicsofthesituationandhowthattranslatesintoflightrateandproductionratetomaketheoveralleconomiccalculationsforthesystemworthwhile,Dumbachersays.

    ChristopheBonnalofthelauncherdirectorateatFrenchspaceagencyCNES,agrees.

    Ifyoureuse,youstopproducing,dependingonthelevelofreusability,hesays.Soyouendupwithapermanentprototype,andtokeepcostsdownyouneedtohaveahighrateofproduction.

    BarryMatsumori,SpaceXvicepresidentofcommercialsalesandbusinessdevelopment,saysFalcon9's10Merlin1Dengines,includingnineonthecorestageandavacuumversionflyingonthesecond,meanSpaceXisalreadymanufacturingalotofmotors.

    Itdoesn'ttakeverymanyflightsforustohitrateproduction,MatsumorisaidinApril.Wearepoppingoutenginesataprettyhighrate.

    BonnalsaidCNEShaslookedatoptimisticflightratesofaround50peryear,assumingasinglepayload,butthat,Underthebestconditionswecouldsave10%ofthelaunchcosts,plusorminus15%,hequipped.

    Oneofthemostchallengingaspectsofreusability,hesaid,istheweightpenaltyaddedbyhardwareandpropellant.Hesaysthelattermeansreserving30%offirststagefuelinordertoreturnaboostertothelaunchsite.

    Youendupdesigningmuchlargervehicles,withlandinggear,withlegsorwings,soit'sheavierandyouneedmorepropulsion,atleast2530%morepropulsiononthestage,Bonnalsaid,addingthatapreviousstudybyCNESandRussianspaceagencyRoscosmoslookedatthefeasibilityofmakingtheAriane5solidrocketboostersliquidfueledandreusable,butscrappedtheideaafterthehardwaregrewtoolarge.

    Thethingthatshockedmewasthatatthebeginning,thisreusableflybackboosterwasjustacylinderwithenginesandlittlewings,justaturbofanintheback,hesaid.AndthreeyearslaterthesewerecompleteAirbusesintermsofsizewithfourenginesineachofthem.

    SpaceXPresidentGwynneShotwellsaysFalcon9'sreusabilityisalreadydesignedintotherocket'sfirststage,includingtheweightofthelandinglegsthatwouldotherwisedetractfromtherocket'sperformance.ShealsosaidFalcon9retains30%performancemarginoverthecompany'sadvertisedmasstoorbitcapabilityof4,850kgtoGTOmarginSpaceXisusingtoconductoperationaltrialsofareusableFalcon9firststage.

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    Themassoftherecoveryhardwareisnotadramaticimpactonpayloadperformance,ShotwellsaidinaFebruaryinterview.Conservatively,ifIput1,000lbsonthefirststage,I'monlylosing100poundsofpayloadorsotoorbit.Whatimpactsisthefuelweneedtoreservetoexecutethereentryandthelandingburns.

    However,MusksaysheseesaFalcon9withareusablecorestagetargetingthesmalltomediumsizeweightcategoryformissionstoGTO,withthelargerFalconHeavynowindevelopmentexpectedtodotheheavylifting.

    "WhereIbasicallyseethisnettingoutisFalcon9willdosatellitestoroughlyupto3.5tonneswithfullreusabilityofthebooststage,andFalconHeavywilldosatellitesupto7tonneswithfullreusabilityofallthreebooststages,"MusktoldAviationWeekinFebruary."NowFalconHeavycoulddoubleitspayload,almost;if,forexample,wewentexpendableonthecentercore,wecoulddo14tonnestoGTO."

    Butbeyondperformance,saysBonnalistheimpactofrocketreusabilityongroundinstallations.Asanexample,hesaidCNEShasfoundthatsafetyrequirementswouldmakereturnofabooststageproblematicatEurope'sSouthAmericanspaceportinKourou,FrenchGuiana.

    IwillbeveryinterestedinseeingthethreeFalconHeavyboosterscomingbacktoVandenbergwithpropellantsloshing,hesaid,referringtoSpaceXplanstostartflyingaheavyversionoftheFalcon9fromtheU.S.AirForce'sCalifornialaunchinstallationnextyear.Intermsofsafety,itmustbequitechallenging.

    PaulEckert,managerofbudget,policy,andinternationalaffairsattheFAAOfficeofCommercialSpaceTransportationsaysregulatorsarepreparedtoworkwithSpaceXtoensurethecompanycanproceedwithitsreusabilityinitiative.

    Therearealwaysriskfactors,therearecertaincriteria,andthecompanyandthegovernmentarebothwellaware,sowedon'tanticipateanyproblem,hesaidinParislastmonth.I'msurewecanworkitout.

    WithtelemetrygleanedfromasimulatedsoftlandingofaFalcon9firststageintheAtlanticOceanlastmonth,SpaceXsaysitischippingawayatitsgoal.ButasMuskhasemphasized,theeconomicsofreflyinglaunchvehiclesaremostpromisingiftheentirerocketisreusable.

    Themostfundamentalbreakthroughisarapidlyandfullyreusablerocket,MusksaidinFebruary.Itdoesn'thelpifit'spartiallyreusable.

    Shotwellconcedesthatsecondstagerecoverpresentsadifferentsetofchallenges,notablytheperformanceoffsetrequiredforadditionalpropellant.

    Thesecondstagemasstradeispoundforpound,Shotwellsays.WhateverincrementalmassIadd,thesamehastocomeoffthepayload.

    WhenaskedifSpaceXhasthetechnologyinhandtoachievesecondstageflyback,Guillendeclinedtocomment,thoughshesaiditisinourplanstorecovertheentirerocket.

    MatsumoriagreedthatrecoveringaFalcon9upperstageismoredifficultthanreturningacorebooster.

    Thethinggoestotheothersideoftheworld;bringingitbackisanotherchallenge,hesaid.

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    Thelackofanexistenceproofisn'tproofofnonexistence.Ifthiswaseasy,someonewouldhavedoneitalready.

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    IwishElonallthebestinhisendevor,butIthinkheneedstodoitfirstbeforeheshakesuptheindustrywhichislongoverdue.Itwouldalsobeagoodideatostartdesigningaspacetugtoremoveallthedeadstuffinorbit,becausewhenReusabledoescomearoundeverybodywilljumponboardandspacejunkwilltakeonawholenewmeaning.

    jimbo0117 onMay5,2014

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    Ifreturningandlandingtheboosteratthelaunchpadistoorisky,thensimplyuseabargeoutintheoceanandtowitback.Thisisn'trocketscience...

    SteveD onMay6,2014

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    Itdoesn'ttakearocketscientisttoknowthatlandingaboosterinsaltwaterisabadideaifyouwantquickturnarounds.Thehavocthatstuffcanplayonprecisionenginepartsandothercomponentsisharshtosaytheleast.Onecouldneversealthingswellenoughtohave100%confidenceintherebeingnoleakage.

    IimaginethatthefolkswhorestoretheShuttle'sboostersknowtheissuesfullwell.Refurbishmentdutieswillbehighifhecannotlanditonsolid(dry)ground.Justthepossibilityofsaltwatergettingintothewiringortheelectronicsviaanunseenpinholeleakputsupbarrierstofastreuse.ThisiswhyonlythecasingsoftheShuttle'sboosterswerereused.

    Andthoseenginesofhiswillrequireamajor(costlyandtimeconsuming)inspectionafterusebeforeNASAlet'sanyofit'speopleflyonthemagain.Likewisewiththerestofthebird.

    Mannedrocketswillneverreachairlineschedulelikeflightsinourlifetimebecausespaceflight(andspaceitself)isamuchmoresevereandunforgivingenvironmentthantheoneairlinersflyin,andorbitboundpassengerscanstillonlygetuptherebyridingontopofhugefueltanksthathaveoneendonfire.

    BoydNelson onNov15,2014

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    "Andthoseenginesofhiswillrequireamajor(costlyandtimeconsuming)inspectionafterusebeforeNASAlet'sanyofit'speopleflyonthemagain.Likewisewiththerestofthebird."

    NASAwouldprobablyrequireSpaceXtousenewneverusedrocketsandmotorswhenlaunchingNASA'sastronauts.Atleastinitially.Theserecoveredrocketstagesandmotorscouldthenbereusedrepeatedlyforlaunchesofcargoorsatellites.

    SpaceXmightchargeapremiumlaunchpriceforcustomerswhoinsistthata"virginlaunchvehicle"beused.

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    [email protected] onMay6,2014

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    SpaceXisreallypushingtheenvelopebutit'stimeforsomeoneotherthanNASA(ortheircronies)todosomepurerocketscienceandmovetheindustryforward.WhenMuskreusesthefirstbooster,everyotherrocketmanufacturerisgoingtotryaswell.

    It'sonlyimpossibletosomeonemakesitpossible.

    GreenShrike onMay7,2014

    I'msurprisedMr.DumbacherwouldconflatethecomplexityoftheRS25withtheMerlinengine,thoughtobefairtohimnothinginarticleshowsMr.DumbachertohavebeenspecificallyaddressingSpaceXortheMerlin,withthearticlepossibly"repurposing"hisstatement'soriginalcontext.

    Nevertheless,theRS25SSMEisadualpreburner,stagedcombustion,liquidhydrogenenginemeantformassiveperformance.Itwasdesignedinthe'70sontheabsolutebleedingedgeofthedecade'stechnology,andsoit'snorealsurpriseitwasn'tquiteascheaplyreusableasintended.TheMerlin,incontrast,isanextremelybasicgasgenerator,designedformodernmanufacturabilityandlowcostberalles,incorporatingsimplepintleinjectortechnologystraightoutofthe60'sApolloeralunarlander.Cuttingedgedesign,itisnot.

    HistoricalexperiencewithRS25did,however,providevaluablelessonstoSpaceX,evenifitseemsprimarilyinwhattoavoid.

    ItseemstobelikewisewithCNES'experience.IgnoringtheunmentionedfactthatCNESisintimatelyrelatedtoSpaceXrivalArianespace,andthatafewgrainsofsaltarethusrequiredbeforeswallowingtheymightsayabouteachother,itseemsquiteobviousthataddingwingsandjetenginestoarocketwillmarkedlyincreaseitsmass,complexityandexpense.

    Fortunately,itappearsthatSpaceXtookthis"lesson"toheart,however,througheitherlearningfromCNES'experimentsorthroughsimplecommonsense,anditsFalcon9sportsneitherwingsnorjetengines.Infact,simplicityseemstobeSpaceX'swatchwordasitsreusableconfigurationdiffersfromanexpendableconfigurationonlybyabeefedupcoldgasRCSsystem,lightweightandfairlycheapcarbonfibreandaluminumhoneycomblandinglegs,andadditionallandingcontrolsoftwareinitsavionicscore.

    Thelatter,ofcourse,wastestedextensivelynotjustinsimulation,butonSpaceX'srealworldGrasshopperandnewF9RDev1vehicles,allowingasmanycheap"flightopportunities"asSpaceX'sengineerswouldlikefor"measuringandunderstandingtheenvironmentsinwhichlaunchvehiclesoperate."

    IfMr.Bonnal'splanforreusabilitynettedhisorganizationnoreductionincosts,thenthere'syetanotherroadmapthatSpaceXcanlearnfromandnotfollow.Fuelisneededforboostbackandlanding,ofcourse,butfuelischeap.Rocketcores,ontheotherhand,areexpensive.Asisrefurbishingseawaterdrenchedequipment,soSpaceXaimstoreturntherocketcorestotheirlaunchsite,touchingdownonwaterbeingonlyatemporarytestregimeuntiltheycanprovesufficientcontroloverthereturningstagestolandsafely.

    IsuspectMr.Bonnal'sorganizationwouldhavehadmoreluckwithAriane5reusabilityifithadbeendesignedinfromthestart.IfinditsurprisingthatreusabilityisnotagoalforAriane6nowwouldbethetimetobakeinthecapability.IfSpaceXissuccessfulinitsreusabilitygoals,whentheA6debutsit'llbeinanevenworsecompetitivespotthatA5isintodaywithF9andbettingthatthecompetitionwillfailisnotwisebusinessstrategy.

    SinceSpaceXmostlyjustfollowedtheKISSprinciple,anygroupofbrightengineersshouldbeabletoreplicatetheirsuccess.However,fromcleansheetofpapertoboostingrocketsbacktotheirlaunchsitewillstilltakeseveralyears,yearsinwhichanynonreusableofferingisnoncompetitive.Isupposetheycouldmodifytheirexpendablerocketforreusability,butCNESalreadyfoundthatdidn'tworktoowell,sotheymightwishtotaketheirownlessontoheart.

    Reusabilitydoesreducearocket'sperformance,but"[SpaceXPresidentGwynneShotwell]alsosaidFalcon9retains30%performancemarginoverthecompany'sadvertisedmasstoorbitcapabilityof4,850kgtoGTO."

    Thoughthearticle'sauthorhasarguedotherwiserecently,unlessSpaceX'spresidentdoesn'tknowherowncompany'sproducts,thatstatementstronglyimpliesthatwithnoreservedperformancemargin,afullyexpendableF9canlift4.85t*1.3=~6.3ttoGTO.*

    Usingallthelessthansuccessfuloroutrightfailedreusabilityplansasaguide,itseemsSpaceXhasdecidedthewaytomakeamediumclassreusablelauncheristobuildanextremelysimpleandlowcost6theavylauncher,designedfromthegroundupforreusability,andthenmarketitatareduced34tcapacity.And,asafollowup,theydecidedthewaytomakeaheavylauncheristotakea3050tsuperheavy,andmarketitasaheavylauncherwithacapacityof7treturningallthreeoftheboostcoresor14treturningonlytwoofthecores.

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    TobadlyparaphraseEdison,itcouldbesaidthattheconceptofreusabilityhasn'tfailedit'sjustthat10,000waysthatwon'tworkhavebeenfound.Afterobservingthefatesofothers'efforts,inafewmonthsorayearweshallknowwhetherSpaceX'sownplanforreusabilitywill,infact,finallyworkandleadtothesuccessthathaseludedallothers.

    *Thisfurtherimpliesthatthe5.3tSESsatellitestheF9hasbeencontractedtolaunchintosubsupersynchronousGTOarenot,infact,beyondthelimitofwhatF9canthrowintoGTO.Hencetheremustbeanotherreasonthatthey'rebeinglaunchedtolessthanfullSSGTO.

    Perhaps5.3ttoSSGTOismerelybeyondthelimitoftheF9'scapabilities*with*firststagerecovery,andthesubSSGTOwasrequiredtoattemptrecoveryofthestage?It'llbeinterestingtoseeifthoseF9flightssportlegsornot.

    [email protected] onMay8,2014

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    AsifweshouldrespecttheopinionofanengineerfromNasa,whopromiseda$7millionperflight'cheap,safe,reliableaccesstospace'shuttlethendelivereda$1.6billionperflightboondogglewhichkilled2crewsandhadchronicandmultiyearserviceoutages...Nasa'sshuttlewasthemostunaffordable,dangerous,unreliablespacevehicleinhistory....ThenwhileNasablew$20billiononit'smiserablyfailed/cancelledConstellation,SpaceXproducedfarsuperior/advancedboosters/capsulesforonly$300million....nowNasa'sshameless,unneeded,unsustainable,unaffordablemulti$billion/flightSLS...ThepaperpushingfoolsatNasaneedtojustshutupandgetoutoftheway.

    saliendoCaliendo onMay10,2014

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    Untilveryrecently,allspacefaringactivitywasfundedandundertakenbygovernments.Thestatefundeddesignersandbuildersofflighthardwarehadnorealincentive(competition)toreducethecostofmasstoorbit.Mr.Musk,morethananyoneelse,threatenstodumptheworldslaunchparadigmsontheircollectiveheads.Understandably,thepriestsandacolytesatthecoreoftheworldsincumbentlaunchbeliefsopposetheradicalMr.Muskandfearthepossibilityofhissuccess.TherightcallistogiveMr.Musktheballlethimrunwithit.Win,loseordraw,everyonemustnowfollowhimdownthepathofrealreusabilityandreducedlaunchcostsorriskirrelevanceandextinction.

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