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ON SPACENASA,CNESWarnSpaceXofChallengesinFlyingReusableFalcon9RocketbyAmySvitakinOnSpace
Intheory,theSpaceXFalcon9v1.1boostercanbereusedmorethanthreedozentimes.
That'sbecausetherocket'sLOX/KeroseneMerlin1Denginenineofwhichpoweritsfirststagehasacycleof40,accordingtoStellaGuillen,SpaceXdirectorofbusinessdevelopment.
"It'snotobviouslytheentiresystemortheentirestage,"shesaidduringaspaceconferenceinParislastmonth.Wedon'tknowhowmanytimeswecanflythefirststage.Buttheengineshaveacycleof40.
Aspartofthecompany'sgoaltodramaticallylowerthecostofspacelaunch,Hawthorne,Calif.basedSpaceXisslowlymovingoutonastrategytotestthereusableFalcon9corestagewiththegoalofeventuallyrecoveringandreflyingtheentirerocket,Guillensays.
Butevenwithoutfirststageflyback,theFalcon9isalreadythelowestcostrocketonthecommercialmarkettoday.Abletothrow4,850kgofpayloadtosupersynchronoustransferorbitatroughly$60millionperlaunch,itbestseventheChineseLongMarch3Bat$70millionapop.
Notingthatthecostoffuel,oxygenandotherexpendableliquidsintherocketamountstojust0.3%ofthecostofaFalcon9mission,SpaceXCEOandfounderElonMusksaysthereispotentialtofurtherlowerthecostbyafactorofmorethan100,assumingahighlaunchrateandtheabilitytofullyandrapidlyreusetheentirerocket,includingitsfirstandsecondstages.
Thisisadifficultthingtoachieve,hetoldanannualU.S.ExportImportBankconferenceinWashingtonApril25.Alotofpeopleintheaerospaceindustrythinkit'snotpossible,andmostinindustryhavegivenuponit.Butwethinkit'spossible.
AmongthedoubtersisNASADeputyAssociateAdministratorDanDumbacher,aformerSpaceShuttleengineerwholeadstheagency'sexplorationsystemsdevelopment.Dumbachersaystheagencylearnedalotfromitsexperiencewiththeorbiter'sreusableSpaceShuttleMainEngines(SSMEs).
Wetriedtomaketheenginesreusablefor55flights,hesaidinParislastmonth.Lookhowlongandhowmuchmoneyittookforustodothat,andwestillweren'tsuccessfulforallparts.
WhileNASAisusingSSMEstopoweritsnewheavyliftSpaceLaunchSystem(SLS),Dumbachersaysthecostofrefurbishingtheenginesmeanstheagencyhasnoplansto
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Allwe'regoingtobedoingisworkingonthemanufacturabilityandgettingthecostdown,Dumbachersaid.We'regoingtoretainthereusabilitythat'sinthere,butI'mactuallygoingtothrowthemaway.
Dumbachersaidunlikecommercialairliners,rocketshavelimitedflightopportunities,presentingachallengetoengineersintermsofmeasuringandunderstandingtheenvironmentsinwhichlaunchvehiclesoperate.
Intheairlineindustry,youhavelotsofflights,lotsofrepetition,lotsofopportunitytogolearn,figureoutwhatbroke,andfixit,hesays.Withlaunchvehicles,we'velaunchedalot,butnottotheorderofmagnitudewehavewithairplanes.
DumbachersaidtheSpaceShuttlesolidrocketboosterswerelikewiseproblematic,requiringtoomuchoverhaultojustifythecostofreusingthem.
We'dpickthemoutoftheocean,butwespentalotoftimecleaningthosethingsupwhenwegotthemback,inspectingthehardwaretomakesurethatitwasstillgoodtogo,hesaid.
Inadditiontophysicschallenges,Dumbachersaidtheeconomicsoflaunchingreusablerocketsisakeyfactortoconsiderinjustifyingthecost.Youhavetounderstandtheeconomicsofthesituationandhowthattranslatesintoflightrateandproductionratetomaketheoveralleconomiccalculationsforthesystemworthwhile,Dumbachersays.
ChristopheBonnalofthelauncherdirectorateatFrenchspaceagencyCNES,agrees.
Ifyoureuse,youstopproducing,dependingonthelevelofreusability,hesays.Soyouendupwithapermanentprototype,andtokeepcostsdownyouneedtohaveahighrateofproduction.
BarryMatsumori,SpaceXvicepresidentofcommercialsalesandbusinessdevelopment,saysFalcon9's10Merlin1Dengines,includingnineonthecorestageandavacuumversionflyingonthesecond,meanSpaceXisalreadymanufacturingalotofmotors.
Itdoesn'ttakeverymanyflightsforustohitrateproduction,MatsumorisaidinApril.Wearepoppingoutenginesataprettyhighrate.
BonnalsaidCNEShaslookedatoptimisticflightratesofaround50peryear,assumingasinglepayload,butthat,Underthebestconditionswecouldsave10%ofthelaunchcosts,plusorminus15%,hequipped.
Oneofthemostchallengingaspectsofreusability,hesaid,istheweightpenaltyaddedbyhardwareandpropellant.Hesaysthelattermeansreserving30%offirststagefuelinordertoreturnaboostertothelaunchsite.
Youendupdesigningmuchlargervehicles,withlandinggear,withlegsorwings,soit'sheavierandyouneedmorepropulsion,atleast2530%morepropulsiononthestage,Bonnalsaid,addingthatapreviousstudybyCNESandRussianspaceagencyRoscosmoslookedatthefeasibilityofmakingtheAriane5solidrocketboostersliquidfueledandreusable,butscrappedtheideaafterthehardwaregrewtoolarge.
Thethingthatshockedmewasthatatthebeginning,thisreusableflybackboosterwasjustacylinderwithenginesandlittlewings,justaturbofanintheback,hesaid.AndthreeyearslaterthesewerecompleteAirbusesintermsofsizewithfourenginesineachofthem.
SpaceXPresidentGwynneShotwellsaysFalcon9'sreusabilityisalreadydesignedintotherocket'sfirststage,includingtheweightofthelandinglegsthatwouldotherwisedetractfromtherocket'sperformance.ShealsosaidFalcon9retains30%performancemarginoverthecompany'sadvertisedmasstoorbitcapabilityof4,850kgtoGTOmarginSpaceXisusingtoconductoperationaltrialsofareusableFalcon9firststage.
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Themassoftherecoveryhardwareisnotadramaticimpactonpayloadperformance,ShotwellsaidinaFebruaryinterview.Conservatively,ifIput1,000lbsonthefirststage,I'monlylosing100poundsofpayloadorsotoorbit.Whatimpactsisthefuelweneedtoreservetoexecutethereentryandthelandingburns.
However,MusksaysheseesaFalcon9withareusablecorestagetargetingthesmalltomediumsizeweightcategoryformissionstoGTO,withthelargerFalconHeavynowindevelopmentexpectedtodotheheavylifting.
"WhereIbasicallyseethisnettingoutisFalcon9willdosatellitestoroughlyupto3.5tonneswithfullreusabilityofthebooststage,andFalconHeavywilldosatellitesupto7tonneswithfullreusabilityofallthreebooststages,"MusktoldAviationWeekinFebruary."NowFalconHeavycoulddoubleitspayload,almost;if,forexample,wewentexpendableonthecentercore,wecoulddo14tonnestoGTO."
Butbeyondperformance,saysBonnalistheimpactofrocketreusabilityongroundinstallations.Asanexample,hesaidCNEShasfoundthatsafetyrequirementswouldmakereturnofabooststageproblematicatEurope'sSouthAmericanspaceportinKourou,FrenchGuiana.
IwillbeveryinterestedinseeingthethreeFalconHeavyboosterscomingbacktoVandenbergwithpropellantsloshing,hesaid,referringtoSpaceXplanstostartflyingaheavyversionoftheFalcon9fromtheU.S.AirForce'sCalifornialaunchinstallationnextyear.Intermsofsafety,itmustbequitechallenging.
PaulEckert,managerofbudget,policy,andinternationalaffairsattheFAAOfficeofCommercialSpaceTransportationsaysregulatorsarepreparedtoworkwithSpaceXtoensurethecompanycanproceedwithitsreusabilityinitiative.
Therearealwaysriskfactors,therearecertaincriteria,andthecompanyandthegovernmentarebothwellaware,sowedon'tanticipateanyproblem,hesaidinParislastmonth.I'msurewecanworkitout.
WithtelemetrygleanedfromasimulatedsoftlandingofaFalcon9firststageintheAtlanticOceanlastmonth,SpaceXsaysitischippingawayatitsgoal.ButasMuskhasemphasized,theeconomicsofreflyinglaunchvehiclesaremostpromisingiftheentirerocketisreusable.
Themostfundamentalbreakthroughisarapidlyandfullyreusablerocket,MusksaidinFebruary.Itdoesn'thelpifit'spartiallyreusable.
Shotwellconcedesthatsecondstagerecoverpresentsadifferentsetofchallenges,notablytheperformanceoffsetrequiredforadditionalpropellant.
Thesecondstagemasstradeispoundforpound,Shotwellsays.WhateverincrementalmassIadd,thesamehastocomeoffthepayload.
WhenaskedifSpaceXhasthetechnologyinhandtoachievesecondstageflyback,Guillendeclinedtocomment,thoughshesaiditisinourplanstorecovertheentirerocket.
MatsumoriagreedthatrecoveringaFalcon9upperstageismoredifficultthanreturningacorebooster.
Thethinggoestotheothersideoftheworld;bringingitbackisanotherchallenge,hesaid.
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IwishElonallthebestinhisendevor,butIthinkheneedstodoitfirstbeforeheshakesuptheindustrywhichislongoverdue.Itwouldalsobeagoodideatostartdesigningaspacetugtoremoveallthedeadstuffinorbit,becausewhenReusabledoescomearoundeverybodywilljumponboardandspacejunkwilltakeonawholenewmeaning.
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Ifreturningandlandingtheboosteratthelaunchpadistoorisky,thensimplyuseabargeoutintheoceanandtowitback.Thisisn'trocketscience...
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Itdoesn'ttakearocketscientisttoknowthatlandingaboosterinsaltwaterisabadideaifyouwantquickturnarounds.Thehavocthatstuffcanplayonprecisionenginepartsandothercomponentsisharshtosaytheleast.Onecouldneversealthingswellenoughtohave100%confidenceintherebeingnoleakage.
IimaginethatthefolkswhorestoretheShuttle'sboostersknowtheissuesfullwell.Refurbishmentdutieswillbehighifhecannotlanditonsolid(dry)ground.Justthepossibilityofsaltwatergettingintothewiringortheelectronicsviaanunseenpinholeleakputsupbarrierstofastreuse.ThisiswhyonlythecasingsoftheShuttle'sboosterswerereused.
Andthoseenginesofhiswillrequireamajor(costlyandtimeconsuming)inspectionafterusebeforeNASAlet'sanyofit'speopleflyonthemagain.Likewisewiththerestofthebird.
Mannedrocketswillneverreachairlineschedulelikeflightsinourlifetimebecausespaceflight(andspaceitself)isamuchmoresevereandunforgivingenvironmentthantheoneairlinersflyin,andorbitboundpassengerscanstillonlygetuptherebyridingontopofhugefueltanksthathaveoneendonfire.
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"Andthoseenginesofhiswillrequireamajor(costlyandtimeconsuming)inspectionafterusebeforeNASAlet'sanyofit'speopleflyonthemagain.Likewisewiththerestofthebird."
NASAwouldprobablyrequireSpaceXtousenewneverusedrocketsandmotorswhenlaunchingNASA'sastronauts.Atleastinitially.Theserecoveredrocketstagesandmotorscouldthenbereusedrepeatedlyforlaunchesofcargoorsatellites.
SpaceXmightchargeapremiumlaunchpriceforcustomerswhoinsistthata"virginlaunchvehicle"beused.
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SpaceXisreallypushingtheenvelopebutit'stimeforsomeoneotherthanNASA(ortheircronies)todosomepurerocketscienceandmovetheindustryforward.WhenMuskreusesthefirstbooster,everyotherrocketmanufacturerisgoingtotryaswell.
It'sonlyimpossibletosomeonemakesitpossible.
GreenShrike onMay7,2014
I'msurprisedMr.DumbacherwouldconflatethecomplexityoftheRS25withtheMerlinengine,thoughtobefairtohimnothinginarticleshowsMr.DumbachertohavebeenspecificallyaddressingSpaceXortheMerlin,withthearticlepossibly"repurposing"hisstatement'soriginalcontext.
Nevertheless,theRS25SSMEisadualpreburner,stagedcombustion,liquidhydrogenenginemeantformassiveperformance.Itwasdesignedinthe'70sontheabsolutebleedingedgeofthedecade'stechnology,andsoit'snorealsurpriseitwasn'tquiteascheaplyreusableasintended.TheMerlin,incontrast,isanextremelybasicgasgenerator,designedformodernmanufacturabilityandlowcostberalles,incorporatingsimplepintleinjectortechnologystraightoutofthe60'sApolloeralunarlander.Cuttingedgedesign,itisnot.
HistoricalexperiencewithRS25did,however,providevaluablelessonstoSpaceX,evenifitseemsprimarilyinwhattoavoid.
ItseemstobelikewisewithCNES'experience.IgnoringtheunmentionedfactthatCNESisintimatelyrelatedtoSpaceXrivalArianespace,andthatafewgrainsofsaltarethusrequiredbeforeswallowingtheymightsayabouteachother,itseemsquiteobviousthataddingwingsandjetenginestoarocketwillmarkedlyincreaseitsmass,complexityandexpense.
Fortunately,itappearsthatSpaceXtookthis"lesson"toheart,however,througheitherlearningfromCNES'experimentsorthroughsimplecommonsense,anditsFalcon9sportsneitherwingsnorjetengines.Infact,simplicityseemstobeSpaceX'swatchwordasitsreusableconfigurationdiffersfromanexpendableconfigurationonlybyabeefedupcoldgasRCSsystem,lightweightandfairlycheapcarbonfibreandaluminumhoneycomblandinglegs,andadditionallandingcontrolsoftwareinitsavionicscore.
Thelatter,ofcourse,wastestedextensivelynotjustinsimulation,butonSpaceX'srealworldGrasshopperandnewF9RDev1vehicles,allowingasmanycheap"flightopportunities"asSpaceX'sengineerswouldlikefor"measuringandunderstandingtheenvironmentsinwhichlaunchvehiclesoperate."
IfMr.Bonnal'splanforreusabilitynettedhisorganizationnoreductionincosts,thenthere'syetanotherroadmapthatSpaceXcanlearnfromandnotfollow.Fuelisneededforboostbackandlanding,ofcourse,butfuelischeap.Rocketcores,ontheotherhand,areexpensive.Asisrefurbishingseawaterdrenchedequipment,soSpaceXaimstoreturntherocketcorestotheirlaunchsite,touchingdownonwaterbeingonlyatemporarytestregimeuntiltheycanprovesufficientcontroloverthereturningstagestolandsafely.
IsuspectMr.Bonnal'sorganizationwouldhavehadmoreluckwithAriane5reusabilityifithadbeendesignedinfromthestart.IfinditsurprisingthatreusabilityisnotagoalforAriane6nowwouldbethetimetobakeinthecapability.IfSpaceXissuccessfulinitsreusabilitygoals,whentheA6debutsit'llbeinanevenworsecompetitivespotthatA5isintodaywithF9andbettingthatthecompetitionwillfailisnotwisebusinessstrategy.
SinceSpaceXmostlyjustfollowedtheKISSprinciple,anygroupofbrightengineersshouldbeabletoreplicatetheirsuccess.However,fromcleansheetofpapertoboostingrocketsbacktotheirlaunchsitewillstilltakeseveralyears,yearsinwhichanynonreusableofferingisnoncompetitive.Isupposetheycouldmodifytheirexpendablerocketforreusability,butCNESalreadyfoundthatdidn'tworktoowell,sotheymightwishtotaketheirownlessontoheart.
Reusabilitydoesreducearocket'sperformance,but"[SpaceXPresidentGwynneShotwell]alsosaidFalcon9retains30%performancemarginoverthecompany'sadvertisedmasstoorbitcapabilityof4,850kgtoGTO."
Thoughthearticle'sauthorhasarguedotherwiserecently,unlessSpaceX'spresidentdoesn'tknowherowncompany'sproducts,thatstatementstronglyimpliesthatwithnoreservedperformancemargin,afullyexpendableF9canlift4.85t*1.3=~6.3ttoGTO.*
Usingallthelessthansuccessfuloroutrightfailedreusabilityplansasaguide,itseemsSpaceXhasdecidedthewaytomakeamediumclassreusablelauncheristobuildanextremelysimpleandlowcost6theavylauncher,designedfromthegroundupforreusability,andthenmarketitatareduced34tcapacity.And,asafollowup,theydecidedthewaytomakeaheavylauncheristotakea3050tsuperheavy,andmarketitasaheavylauncherwithacapacityof7treturningallthreeoftheboostcoresor14treturningonlytwoofthecores.
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TobadlyparaphraseEdison,itcouldbesaidthattheconceptofreusabilityhasn'tfailedit'sjustthat10,000waysthatwon'tworkhavebeenfound.Afterobservingthefatesofothers'efforts,inafewmonthsorayearweshallknowwhetherSpaceX'sownplanforreusabilitywill,infact,finallyworkandleadtothesuccessthathaseludedallothers.
*Thisfurtherimpliesthatthe5.3tSESsatellitestheF9hasbeencontractedtolaunchintosubsupersynchronousGTOarenot,infact,beyondthelimitofwhatF9canthrowintoGTO.Hencetheremustbeanotherreasonthatthey'rebeinglaunchedtolessthanfullSSGTO.
Perhaps5.3ttoSSGTOismerelybeyondthelimitoftheF9'scapabilities*with*firststagerecovery,andthesubSSGTOwasrequiredtoattemptrecoveryofthestage?It'llbeinterestingtoseeifthoseF9flightssportlegsornot.
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AsifweshouldrespecttheopinionofanengineerfromNasa,whopromiseda$7millionperflight'cheap,safe,reliableaccesstospace'shuttlethendelivereda$1.6billionperflightboondogglewhichkilled2crewsandhadchronicandmultiyearserviceoutages...Nasa'sshuttlewasthemostunaffordable,dangerous,unreliablespacevehicleinhistory....ThenwhileNasablew$20billiononit'smiserablyfailed/cancelledConstellation,SpaceXproducedfarsuperior/advancedboosters/capsulesforonly$300million....nowNasa'sshameless,unneeded,unsustainable,unaffordablemulti$billion/flightSLS...ThepaperpushingfoolsatNasaneedtojustshutupandgetoutoftheway.
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Untilveryrecently,allspacefaringactivitywasfundedandundertakenbygovernments.Thestatefundeddesignersandbuildersofflighthardwarehadnorealincentive(competition)toreducethecostofmasstoorbit.Mr.Musk,morethananyoneelse,threatenstodumptheworldslaunchparadigmsontheircollectiveheads.Understandably,thepriestsandacolytesatthecoreoftheworldsincumbentlaunchbeliefsopposetheradicalMr.Muskandfearthepossibilityofhissuccess.TherightcallistogiveMr.Musktheballlethimrunwithit.Win,loseordraw,everyonemustnowfollowhimdownthepathofrealreusabilityandreducedlaunchcostsorriskirrelevanceandextinction.
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