myths about working and social security disability benefits€¦ · myths: social security benefits...
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Presented By: Tom Brownlee Courtney Edgington Tamera Dalton Ms. Sarah Heuser Kelly Holt Robert Jones Kayci Lynam Amber Orvin Mr. Eric Stoker
Advocates as Leaders
Self Advocacy Speakers’ Network
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HAVE MORE MONEY$
LEARN NEW SKILLS
MEET NEW PEOPLE
SHARE YOUR TALENT AND EXPERTISE WITH OTHERS
HAVE A FEELING OF PURPOSE IN YOUR LIFE
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So,
Why Do People Freak
Out about Working?
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Myths: Social Security Benefits and Working
If I go to work I will lose my social security money I get every month
If I make money I won’t be able to keep my Medicaid and/or Medicare health benefits
If I lose my job I won’t be able to get them back
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If I go to work I will lose my Social
Security money I get every month
#1 MYTH
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Countable Income
Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
Federal Benefit Rate
Supplemental Security Disability Insurance (SSDI)
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SSI is a benefit for low income people 65 or older
or disabled who have NEVER paid working taxes or NOT enough working
taxes
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Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
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Utah:$771.00 Per Month (Max) Single Person $1157.00 Per Month (Max) Couple
Federal Benefit Rate
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COUNTABLE INCOME SSI
Social Security does not count all of your working income They look at your income for 2 reasons:
Eligibility Ongoing Benefits
Less than ½ of a person's gross earnings are
counted by SSI
Additional deductions of a $20.00 General and a $65.00 Earned Income
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VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= bjGz2TM3jko
SSI and Working
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SSI Amount
Total Monthly Income
Countable Income
Less than ½ of a person's gross
earnings are counted by SSI
SSI Federal Benefit Rate minus your working wage
(amount you will receive from SSI)
Working Wage plus your SSI Check
SSI Calculator worksheets assist you with 3 important
pieces of information:
SSI Calculator Guides Check for Yourself
Check out the tools available on the Social
Security Website
www.SSA.gov
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George’s SSI
Calculator
$800.00 Gross Monthly Wages
- $20.00 General Income Exclusion = $780.00 - $65.00 Earned Income Exclusion = $715.00 ÷ 2 (Divide the number by 2)
George works part time and earns $800.00 per month and receives
$771.00 from SSI. He does not use any work incentives.
= $357.50 Countable Earned Income
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$771.00 SSI Federal Benefit Rate
- $357.50 Countable Earned Income
= $413 .50 SSI Benefit Check
$800.00 Gross Monthly Wages + $413.50 SSI Benefit Check
= $1213.50 Total Monthly Amount
Not Working: Total Income: $771.00
Working: Total Income:$1213.50
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Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI)
SSDI is a benefit for people who have paid into the
Social Security System by paying working taxes or
people who use to work but no longer can due to physical or mental
impairment
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Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA)
2019 SGA Limits: Non Blind/$1220.00 Blind/$2040.00
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A term that describes a level of work activity and earnings
Substantial Gainful Employment (SGA)
Work that involves
significant and
productive duties
Work which pays more than the current monthly income
limit set by the Social Security
Earning Guidelines used for eligibility and Continuation of Services
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Different rules than SSI
Social Security reviews your level of work by using the SGA Level set every year
Social Security gives credit for other expenses you pay out of your pocket to support your work activity
Gross Monthly Wages - Work Incentives = Total Countable Income
SSDI payment is an all or nothing benefit
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Work Incentives
Work Protections
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• Student Earned Income Exclusion
• Impairment Related Work Expense
• Plan to Achieve Self Supports
• Ticket to Work SSI
• Impairment Related Work Expense
• Plan to Achieve Self Supports (PASS)
• Subsidies and Special Conditions
• Ticket to Work
SSDI
Work Incentives
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If you receive SSI benefits and under the age of 22 and
go to school you can earn up to 1,108 per month or $7,550 per year (2019)
without having to give anything back to social
security
Student Earned Income Exclusion
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He uses the “Student Earned
Income Exclusion” work
incentive 25
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With the Student Earned Income Exclusion
Without the Student Earned Income Exclusion
$ 400.00 Gross Monthly Wages + 613.50 SSI Benefit Check
= $1013.50 Total Monthly Amount
$400.00 Gross Monthly Wages + 771.00 SSI Benefit Check
= $1171.00 Total Monthly Amount
Call your local social security office and tell them you are
working
Earns $400.00 per month
Be sure to tell them that you are in school
Explain to them what you do, how much you earn and how often you get a pay check
Tell them that you are interested in using the Student Earned Income Exclusion
Can only be used with SSI
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Impairment Related Work Expenses
Social Security will deduct the cost of certain impairments-related items and services from your gross
wages that you need in order to work.
You need the item(s) or services(s) because of a physical or mental impairment
You pay for the item(s) or services(s) and are not
reimbursed by another source such as Medicare, Medicaid, or a private insurance carrier
The cost is ”reasonable” ,that is, it represents the
standard charge for the item or service in your community.
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He chooses to use the “Impairment Related
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Costs that YOU pay for so you can work. Transportation Costs Attendant Care Services Service Animals Medical Devices Prosthesis Residential Modifications Prescription Drugs Over the counter Drugs and Medical Services Diagnostic Procedures Non-Medical Appliances and Devices Other Items & Services
Can be used with either SSI and/or SSDI
Minus these costs from your gross pay
$ Gross Monthly Wages + SSI Benefit Check - Impairment Related Work Expense = Total Monthly Amount
If you get SSDI
Notify and Provide receipts to your local social security office
of your expenses
If you get SSI
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A Subsidy is a support that is provided by your employer that may result in more pay
than the actual rate of the work you do.
Subsidy
& Special Conditions 30
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Special Conditions Special Conditions are the supports or assistance that you
receive on the job that are provided by your employer or by someone else at your job.
You have a job coach or mentor that helps you on the job
Your employer gives you additional or longer paid breaks than other workers doing the same job
That you are assigned fewer or simpler tasks to complete than other workers doing the same job for the same pay
You receive more supervision than other workers doing the same or similar job for the same pay
IT MIGHT BE:
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He asked questions about the “Special Condition”
work incentive 32
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Call your local social security office and tell them you are working or you want to provide them with additional
information about your job
Explain to them in detail about the type of work you do and who helps you do that work
Ask questions about Subsidies and Special Conditions and how they might effect your benefit
(It’s important that you use the RIGHT words)
Can be used with either SSI and/or SSDI
Social Security will contact your employer to evaluate the types of supports and assistance that you receive on the job 33
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A PASS plan allows a person to set aside other income so they can pursue
their work goal They can save for: Educational Expenses Vocational Training Assistive Technology used for employment related purpose Starting a Business
Plan to Achieve Self Supports (Pass)
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Used A “Plan to Achieve Self
Supports(PASS)” 35
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The plan must be a WRITTEN plan and designed especially for you
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Have a Specific work goal that you are capable of performing
Have a specific timeframe for
reaching your goal
Show what income and resources you have to
reach your goal
Show how you will use your income and resources
to reach your goal
Show how the money you set aside will be kept separate from
other funds
Be approved and Reviewed by Social Security Contact your Local Social Security Office for
more information
PASS Requirements
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Ticket to Work
A work program that can help you achieve greater financial independence by providing you access to free
employment support services. You are eligible to obtain services from a state VR agency or
“Employment Networks”
Connecting to an Employment Team
Finding a Job CAN HELP YOU WITH:
No penalty for not using your ticket
Free and Voluntary Services
While using your ticket, you may not be subject to a continuing disability review.
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She chooses to use the “Ticket to Work” work incentive
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Sign up with your local VR office or
Employment Network
Contact the Help Line at 1-866-968-7842 or 1-866-833-2967 (TTY) Monday-Friday 8 am-8 pm Eastern Standard Time
OR Visit https://choosework.ssa.gov/
Can be used with either SSI and/or SSDI
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If I lose my job, I won’t be able to get
my benefit back
#2 MYTH
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• Reinstating SSI Eligibility without a new application
• 1619 (b) Medicaid Coverage
• Expedited Reinstatement
SSI
• Trial Work Periods
• Extended Period of Eligibility
• Continuation of Medicare Coverage
• Expedited Reinstatement
• Unsuccessful Work Attempt SSDI
Work Protections
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Trial Work Period (TWP)
Trial Work Period allows a person to try
working for at least nine months without effecting their benefit.
Can only be used if you
are receiving SSDI
During these months, you continue to receive your full benefit no matter how much you’ve
earned as long as you reported your work activity and continue to have a disability impairment
Any one of the 9 months can be within a 3 year period
(does not have to be consecutive months)
Trial Work Month = $880.00
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Can be used if you are
receiving SSI and/or SSDI
Expedited Reinstatement A safety net for people who want to return
to work or had to stop working due to disability.
Social Security rules allows you to receive up to six months of temporary cash while they decide if you are still
eligible for SSI and/or SSDI
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Reinstating SSI Eligibility Without a New Application
Can only be used if you
are receiving SSI
If you are no longer receiving SSI benefits due to your work, you may
be able to restart your SSI cash payments again at any time without a new application
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Extended Period of Eligibility (EPE)
Can only be used if you
are receiving SSDI
You are eligible to continue to receive your cash benefit for the next 3 years if:
You receive SSDI benefits
You have completed your Trial Work Period (TWP)
You stay under the Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) level
(SGA $1,220.00 per month 2019)
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Can be used if you are receiving
SSDI or SSI
Unsuccessful Work Attempt
When a person tries work and you stop or
reduce below the Substantial Gainful
Activity (SGA) level after a short time (6 months or less) because of your
impairment or the removal of special
conditions
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#3 MYTH
If I make money, I won’t be able to keep my
Medicaid and/or Medicare health benefits 47
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Continuation of Medicare Coverage
If your cash benefit stops because you
are working you can still access Medicare for another 7 years and 9 months as
long as the premiums are paid
Can only be used if you are
receiving Medicare
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Can only be used if you are
receiving Medicaid
1619 (b) Medicaid Coverage
You can still receive Medicaid coverage even if you go to
work and your earnings become too high to receive a
SSI cash benefit
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Know your benefits! Your Wages & your Social Security Benefit
Keep Social Security aware of
your working activity
Find people who can help you find the answers to your questions
Charge up your calculator empower yourself
Be aware of the different
Work Incentives and
Protections that are
available to you
Understand the meaning of the words that affect your benefit
Personal Responsibilities
DON’T stop asking questions! 50
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Additional Resources Social Security: National: 1-800-772-1213 or www.SSA.gov Local: Provo Office: 866-366-9549 Fax 801-375-4608
Department of Work Force Services (DWS) Statewide: 866-435-7414 Fax:877-313-4717
(Red Book)
Workforce Services Rehabilitation: Vocational Rehabilitation www.jobs.utah.gov/usor/vr/index.html
Employment Services Utah Work Incentive Planning Services
Utah Center for Assistive Technology Student Transition
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ABLE Accounts The Achieving a Better Life Experience
(ABLE) Act is a TAX-ADVANTAGED savings accounts for individuals who were disabled
before age 26 and their families
Save up to $15,000 a year and use this money to help with a variety of expenses including education,
transportation, housing, employment and personal supports
Utah exempts all ABLE accounts as countable assets against Medicaid, the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance Program (SNAP or Food Stamps) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
No impact on Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Medicaid and other public benefits
www. ablenrc.org
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Contact Information Advocates as Leaders
Self Advocacy Speakers’ Network
155 South 300 West Suite 100 Salt Lake City, Utah 84101
801-245-7353
This project is funded by the Utah Developmental Disabilities Council in partnership with Utah State University, The Center for Persons with Disabilities
Different Abilities Make Us ALL Unique
Ms. Sarah Heuser
Email:[email protected]
Mr. Eric Stoker
Email:[email protected]