MINUTES OF THE 38th MEETING OF THE TRANSVAAL PATHFINDER COUNCIL, . HELD IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM, SCOUT HEADQUARTERS,JEPPE ARCADE,COMMISSIONER STREET, JOHANNESBURG on FRIDAY,29th JANUARY-1932, at 4.p.m.

PRESENT: Rev.S.P.Woodfield:(Chair): Rev.Father Klayley:Rev, D.F.Stowell: Rev.E.W.Grant: Rev.J.Dexter-Tayle Rev. S.Bovet: Messrs: G.Bacon: J.R.Rathebe: S.P. Mqubuli: A.P.Mole: J.S.D.Dey: J.Hungerford:P. Whiteley: F.Raleigh: K.N.Fleischer:J.D.Rheinallt Jones: and L.V.Gauntlett.

RESIGNATIONS:Owing to business reasons Mr.W*H.A.Lawrence, a representative of the Transvaal Scout Council, has resigned,

WELCOME: The Chairman extended a welcome to Messrs:P.Whiteley A.P.Mole: and G.Bacon- Mr,Whiteley,Assistant Divisional Commissioner of the Transvaal Scout Division, was unanimously elected by the Transvaal Scout Council to fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Mr.Lawrence: - Mr.Mole replacefi Father Winter whilst he is in England:- Mr.Bacon has accepted the position of District Pathfinder Master and Organiser of the Witwatersrand District.

LETTERS: A letter was received from the Chief Scout- in which he aays:-

"I have read the article in "IK?/EZI le AFP.TT7 "on the relationship of Pathfinders with Scouts,

"I only wish I oould tell the author of "it that our aims are all in that direction "but we have to be guided by the old African "saying- "Softly, softly, catctee monkey". It "will be all right if you only give it time,"but any effort to hasten it will only put "back the desired evolution- indeed might "wreck it just now.

"If one looks back three or four years "one realises that there is already a change "of spirit as regards the colour question, and "by Scout and Pathfinder Movements working "quietly in co-operation, as they are doing,"I have no doubt of ultimate satisfactory "developments.

"The fact that I have encouraged coloured "Scouts in all parts of the world is good enough “proof that I am fully in favour of them, and "it is absurd to say, as some newspaper "reporter seems to have written, that I look "upon them as a "menace". My opinion is just "the opposite."

This letter was written before the Chief Scout had received a copy of the Statement of the S.A. Pathfinder Council in regard to the matter.

A letter was received from the System Manager of the S.A.Railways and Harbours, in effect that:-

"It has been decided that all members of the "S.A.Pathfinder Council, travelling to and "from a meeting of that Council, will be "granted concessions on condition that "they wear the approved Badge of the '’Association and provided that the necessary "letter of authority has been obtained "for that meeting."

A letter was received from the Interdenominational African Ministers Association inviting the Pathfinders to co-operate with it in holding a Commemoration on the 21st February next,in memory of those Africans who went down in the Mendi in the English Channel during the War. The Pathfinders are to form a Guard of Honour with ex-members of the Contingent.The Meeting expressed its appreciation of the invitation. Mr, Rathebe and Mr.Bacon were appointed to make the necessary arrangements.

FINANCE: A letter was received from Mr.Raleigh with regardto a letter from Rev.R.Phillips to the "RAND MINES, LTD", asking for a contribution-Extract- "Their record shows that donations

"were made on:-3rd December,1929.5th November,1930.

15th January, 1931,"and concludes that if an early contribution is desired for the year 1933- a written request should be made.A letter was received from the Rev.Dexter-Taylor stating that the American Board Mission had voted £10. for the Transvaal Pathfinder Council funds.The Rev.Grant stated that the Wesleyan Church would donate £25.The Meeting expressed its appreciation and gratitude for these grants.Mr.Fleischer stated that with the donation of the Wesleyan Church,there was a credit of £156- 7- 6 »

REGISTRATIONS:Theo Kuhne was appointed District Pathfinder Master of the Northern Transvaal.

SOUTH AFRICAN PATHFINDER CONSTITUTION, POLICY.ORGANISATION AND RULES.

Mr.Raleigh proposed that the name "Rover" be changed to ’"Rambler" or another suitable synonym, as he was afraid that the word "Rover" in Pathfinding would be unacceptable to the South Africa Scout Council. The Meeting decided to submit the word "Rover" for consideration.

The Meeting agreed to submit the following amendments to the S.A.Pathfinder Council for consideration:-Regulation 4. Membership, In the last paragraph, the word"terminated" should be substituted for "determined".Regulation 8, (1), Mr, Raleigh pointed out that the present Constitution provides the vesting of all powers, privileges and duties necessary to the proper conduct,control, etc, of the Pathfinder Movement shall be in the Pathfinder Council, subject to the approval of the South Africa Scout Council.The proposed Constitution similarly provides for the approval of the South Africa Scout Council.Seeing that in other sections of the proposed Constitution any mention of the approval of the South Africa Scout Council has been deleted, the members representing the Transvaal Scout Council requested that the following words should be inserted in this Clause, namely:-

After the word "Duties" and before the word "necessary", the following words "herein referred to", and the deletion of the words "to it" following the word "necessary

the object being that the additional words referred to would make it quite clear that all actions under the Constitution were subject to the approval of the South Africa Scout Council.The Chairman stated that the words proposed to be inserted were not necessary, seeing that the provision of the proposed Clause in question governs the whole of the other clauses.On this understanding the members of the Transvaal Scout Council did not press further for the insertion of the words suggested, but it was agreed to omit the word6 "to it"*Regulation a- (v). Secretary. Keep the first paragraph of the old regulations (Part 11.Section A. No.7) with the addition of "All communications to the "Headquarters Council and/or the Chief Pathfinder "shall be addressed to the Secretary, Pathfinder "Headquarters Counoil, Box 631,Johannesburg."Regulation 8- (^111} Keep old regulation (Part II. Section A.No.10.) omitting from the end of the first paragraph "and unless it shall have received the "approval of the Union Council" which is redundant. Substitute for "Pathfinder Council"-"Headquarters Council".Regulation 9.(1). Mr.Raleigh proposed that the Pathfinder Divisions should coincide with the Scout Divisions. Mr.Bacon instanced cases where it has been almost impossible to control certain Troops in a Division by that Division,whereas such Troops have been easily controlled from another Division.

-Mr.Raleigh

Mr,Raleigh expressed the further opinion that he thought it would be inadvisable to change from the Scout Divisions for the sake of one or two isolated cases and suggested that where such cases as Bacon had instanced occured,a workable Arrangement could be arrived at without a new demarcation of Divisions. This suggestion was approved by the Meeting, Mr.Raleigh being asked to submit a redraft of this section.Regulation 9-(11 c) 1 and 3. The recommendation that a limit to the number of representatives be imposed in these clauses.Regulation 9-(V). Suggested that "Presidents and " Vice Presidents" be altered to "Honorary Presidents "and Honorary Vice President0B-omitting" but such Koffices do not involve membership of the Council" which would then be redundant.Regulation 10. Change "Pathfinder Troops" to "Pathfinder Groups". Mr.Bacon proposed,and the Meeting agreed, that the wording of the scout Constitution be kept with the necessary change of names,down to "a Troop is under the direct "control of the Pathfinder Master and his Assistants K|ee-Rule 43.)".Regulation 13. Mend,"Tracker Pathfinder" to"Tenderpad Pathfind er".Regulation 53.,, last paragraph to read:- fiIn case of Tracker Pathfinder Camps there should never be less than two adults for the camp and whenever possible an adult for every SIX Tracker Pathfinders, Camp raiding in all its forms is fprbidden,THE NEXT MEETING WAS FIXED FOR WEDNESDAY-

9th MARCH - 1933.MEMBERSHIP:

As Canon Jenkins is leaving for England, the Rev. Woodfield nominated Archdeacon Parkertc take his place.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, .THE MEETING WAS DECLARED CLOSED AT 6-p.m.

CONFIRMED AT THE MEETING ON

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MINUTES OF THE 89th MEETING OF THE TRANSVAAL PATHFINDER COUNCIL HELD IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM,SCOUT HEADQUARTERS, JEPPE ARCADE,COMMISSIONER STREET,JOHANNESBURG ON MARCH-9th,1932

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PRESENT:- Rev. S.P.Woodfield (Chair): Rev. Dexter-Taylor,Rev. D.F.Stowell: Rev.Father E. Klayley:Messrs: P. Whiteley: P.C.Sykes: G.Bacon: A.P.Mole: H.P.Madibane: J.S.D.Dey: F.Raleighi R.D.Rheinallt Jones: and L.V.Gauntlett.(Secretary).

APOLOGIES:Apologies were received from Rev.S.Bovet: Rev.Grant: Messrs: K.N.Fleischer and J.R.Rathebe.

MINUTES:- Minutes of the previous meeting having been circulated were taken as read and were confirmed.

MATTERS ARISING OUT OF THE MINUTES:Mr.Bacon reported that a detachment of Pathfinders, consisting of 1 Benoni Troop and several of the Johannesburg Troops were present at the Mendi Commemoration Service held on the 21st February last.

. The Pathfinders with their band led the procession from the Bantu Sports Ground to the Cenotaph for the purpose of placing a wreath. Judging from the remarks overheard,the Pathfinder Bands have improved considerably.

Mr.Raleigh submitted the following redraft for Regulation (9) of the proposed Constitution:-

Regulation 9- (1)Divisional Councils.Powers /Duties and Areas.

(a) The Divisional Councils shall have such powers and shall perform such duties as are delegated to them by the Pathfinder Headquarters Council.It is the duty of Divisional Councils to recommend to the Chief Pathfinder the issue or cancellation of Warrants to Officers and Troops in the areas under their jurisdiction, to keep accurate records of Warrants and Registrations, to account for monies collected and disbursed by them, to supervise the activities of all Committees within their areas, to inform and advise the Headquarters Council on matters referred to them or that seem to call for action in the interests of the Pathfinder Movement, and generally to do such things as are necessary for the maintenance of discipline and efficiency within the Movement, subject, however, to the veto or direction of the Headquarters Council.

(b) The areas over which the Divisional Councils shall have jurisdiction shall correspond to the Divisional areas of the Boy Scouts* Association.

-Mr.Bacon-

Mr, Bacon proposed that a loop-hole should be left to allow for the alteration of Divisions in such cases where it is impossible to run troops efficiently from a Division as demarcated by a Scout Division.Mr.Rheinallt Jones impressed upon the Meeting the wide difference that there exists between the areas populated by the native and the areas populated by the European, thus emphasising the necessity for being able to alter Divisions whsare necessary.Mr.Raleigh stated that a different demarcation of Divisions would lead zc difficulties in determining who t&e Scout representatives would be on Pathfinder Divisional Councils.Mr.Dey suggested that the best Divisions would be those which tended to the greatest efficiency in Pathfinding and that any difficulties that might arise concerning Scout representation were of secondary importance.Mr.Dexter-Taylor proposed, seconded by Mr.Sykes,that the original draft of the regulation be kept as it is with the addition of paragraph (b) of Mr.Raleigh’s redraft, to this paragraph being added "where practicable Mr.Raleigh agreed to this,but suggested that the regulation should start "Powers,Duties and Areas"*The draft finally approved by the Meeting reads as follows:-

Regulation 9 - (l)Divisional Councils:Powers,Duties and Areas:

The Divisional Councils have such powers and perform such duties as are delegated to them by the Headquarters Council within such areas as are from time to time demarcated by the Headquarters Council^ The areas over which the Divisional Councils shall have jurisdiction shall correspond to the Divisional areas of the Boy Scouts* Association where practicable.

"It is the d u t y ,,,« to the end of Regulation 9 -(l) to be kept the* same as in the original draft.

CORRESPONDENCE:A letter was received from the Divisional Pathfinder and read to the Meeting, applying for Leave for six months from Easter, as he would be going Overseas then. He suggested that as there are now District Pathfinder Masters working in almost every district it would not be necessary to appoint an Acting Divisional Pathfinder. He also suggested that during his absence the Chief Pathfinder be asked to take the Chair,The Meeting granted the required leave.The Divisional Pathfinder asked whether, during his absence Mr.Rheinallt Jones would be willing to act as Chairman. Mr.Rheinallt Jones gave his consent,which was acceptable to the Meeting.

-A letter-

A LETTER M S RECEIVED FROM Mr. THEO KUHNE to the effect that:-

An Officers' meeting had been held at Valdezia on Saturday, February-13th, at which 17 Officers were present. It was unanimously agreed at that Meeting that an Officers* Training Course should be held from the 14th-21st July next at Lemana.

One of the special features of the Course will be Lectures in Second Class Tests.

The Officers have asked for another Rally similar to the one held last year, which was a wonderful help to them. The date for the next Rally is Lemana Show Day- May,7th (provisional). The letter concludedby asking for someone to inspect this Rally.

The Chief Pathfinder stated that he will be present at the Rally if he can manage to get away at that time. He also suggested that Mr.Fleischer be asked to consider making the trip as well.

FINANCE:- The Honorary Treasurer submitted a financial statement for the period July,1931 - February-2oth-1932.

Donations:It was announced that £10. had been received from the American Board of Missions, and that Mr.Raleigh had managed to raise a further donation of £25.0.0: from the Rand Mines, making in all £60.0.0: received from the Rand Mines for 1932,

The Meeting expressed its gratitude and thanks to the Donors,

DIVISIONAL PATHFINDERS REPORT FOR THE YEAR- 193*.EXTRACT: --------- —

A special feature of the years work has been the splitting up of the District of the Northern Transvaal into smaller Districts.Mr.Kuhne has been appointed D.P.M. for the Louis Trichardt District- Mr.Roberts as D.P.M. for the Witbank District and Mr.Oliphant as A.D.P.M. for the Pietersburg District- Mr.Oliphant has undertaken full responsibility for all the troops within cycling distance of the Diocesan Training College.The appointment of Officers for Sekhukhuniland, Waterberg and the District intervening between Pietersburg and Louis Trichardt is only held up by the difficulty of finding suitable Officers to do the work. Representatives of many Troops in the Pietersburg area attended the Rally in Johannesburg held in honour of the Chief Scout,Lord Baden Powell. Some of the boys and Officers had to travel over 600 miles to attend the Rally.Almost every Troop had been visited during the year.Rallies at which the Chief and Divisional Pathfirders were present were held at Pietersburg and Lemana.Both these Officers attended the Officers Training Camp held in Pietersburg in July.

The main itiws were:-Balance at 16/7/31 Balance at 26-2-32

.£27-12- 1. £161- 8- 3.

-EXTRACT-

EXTRACT OF DISTRICT REPORTS FOR THE YEAR-1951.DISTRICT PIETERSBURG.A.D.P.M. F.J.OLIPHANT.

F.J.Oliphant visited most of the Troops last year, those that were inspected were good,Officers working hard with but one exception. The boys were smart,clean and tidy, and all showed great keenness.

Mr.Oliphant visits all troops within cycling distance, on a bicycle.

There are two new troops in this district, and two of the old troops have been split up into four smaller troops. Every troop, bar one, has at least two Officers in charge, most of these being old hands at the game.

The 1 Chebeng Troop has had a hard struggle owing to the interference of a minister, but the P/M E.Sono has managed to keep the Troop going. These differences, have now been satisfactorily settled.DISTRICT LOUIS TRICHAHDT;P.P.M. THEO KUHNE.

Mr.Kuhne reports 16 Troops working, two of which are newly registered. The number of Officers and boys have increased, and all troops are working well. It is noticeable that most of the Officers have had long service and stay with their TrOops longer than the Officers do in other districts.This increases efficiency.

DISTRICT WITBANK: b.P.M. REV. ROBERTS.

No report to hand. This district has had one or two new troops registered during the year, Seports show that there is much keenness.

DISTRICT PRETORIA:D.P.MtA.L.BAKER:

No report. Thi6 district within the last year has increased by leaps and bounds. There are several Troops running with a fair number of officers,every troop has more than enough boys in it, and acting on the suggestions of the Secretary these troops are splitting up into smaller troops as soon as Officers can be found to do the work. This shows extraordinary interest on the part of all concerned, particularly as there is no active D.P.M. for the district.

Every letter that is received from a Pretoria Officer contains a request for a D.P.M. to visit a Troop and enrol boys,etc.

How good the work is,it is difficult to say, for in the main part few Officers have had previous experience and it is to be expected that a certain amount of the work is not up to standard.

It is predicted that with an able D.P.M. this district will be hard to beat far keenness and efficiency.

-DISTRICT-

DISTRICT OF WESTERN TRANSVAAita .d .E.m .-'l .s .steyn:

The report is mostly on' the activities of the 11 Potchefstroom Troop. This Troop has had a most successful year.

On several occasions the whole troop has paid visits to prospective Troops in the vicinity, these visits have been of benefit to all, and from these visits it is to be expected that in the near future Troops will be started at Klerksdorp and Ventersdorp.

The Troop spent the whole of one week-end cleaning the cemetery.

Judging from the report,this must be one of the most efficiently run Troops in the Transvaal. This year the Troop has been split up into two senior trpops and a junior troop with two Officers for each.

It is expected in the near future to have further troops running.STANDERTOK DISTRICT:

Mr.C.P.Molefe has taken it upon himself to organise Troops in this district.At the moment there are three troops working with two- Officers apiece and there is a likelihood of more Troops being started in the near future. Mr.Molefe seems to be a keen and efficient Officer,

WITWATERSRAND DISTRICT:D.P.M.- SYgES:

The report for this district was circulated at the end of last year and was filed with the Minutes of the 37th Meeting held on December-15th,193I,

Mr.Bacon submitted a report of his activities during the last two months.

Extract: He has split the 'Witwatersrand up into four separate areas. His policy has been to make those who are in direct charge of troops capable of doing the work themselves and capable of instructing Patrol Leaders to teach their Patrols. To achieve this he has held Officers Meetings in each of the four districts.

In inspecting Troops he has found that mo6t of the troop work has been drill.

He has held meetings of the Courts of Honour of the various Troops and shown them what is expected of such Courts.

He has visited most of the troops on the Reef since he has been here,but does not feel justified as yet in making a report of the efficiency of the troops.

-PROPOSED-

PROPOSED D.P.M. FOR SEKHUKHUNILAND?’The Meeting agreed that a letter should be sent

to Mr.Button,District Commissioner for Sekhukhuniland asking him to act as D.P.M. for that District.D.P.M. FOR PRETORIA DISTRICT:

The Chairman suggested that in view of the fact that no report has been received from Mr.A.L.Baker,D.P.M. for Pretoria, and further that as Mr.Baker has ignored recent correspondence sent to him,Mr.Baker be requested to send in his resignation, more particularly as there are several men in Pretoria who take a keen interest in Pathfinding. The Meeting unanimously agreed that Mr,Baker be asked to resign.

The Chairman stated that Captain White and Mr.Junod are both in Pretoria and that both are interested in Pathfinding. He suggested that these men be approached to act as D.P.Ms in Pretoria.

Mr.Dey proposed that the Chief Pathfinder and Divisional Pathfinder be left to approach whom they thought fit. This was agreed to by the meeting.STANDERTON DISTRICT:

The Meeting agreed that Mr.C.P.Molefe be informed that in the absence of a D.P.M.in that District he,being Senior Pathfinder Master, was to be held responsible for that District.

_THE PATHFINDER": Mr.Rheinallt Jones proposed and theMeeting agreed that a digest of the D.P.Ms reports should be sent to the Editor of the "Pathfinder" for publication.

ROVER RALLY: Messrs: Rheinallt Jones and Bacon attended a Rover Rally lately . Their appeal for Rothes to help with the training of Pathfinder Troops resulted in offers of assistance from 14 rovers. The Meeting expressed its gratitude for these offers of assistance.

£5N.SUS:. As these returns have not been completed the Meeting agreed to leave them over until another meeting.REGISTRATIONS AND APPOINTMENTS; The Chief Pathfinder made the suggestion that it might be a help to distant members of the Council if meetings were held quarterly.After a debate it was decided to keep the present arrangement with regard to meetings,PLACE OF MEETINGS:

Mr.Sykes suggested that it might help some of the members if occasional Meetings were to be held m Pretoria. The Meeting disagreed.RESIGNATION:-, , . Mr.Rheinallt Jones stated that the Rev.E.W.Grant has had to resign owing to his leaving the District.

-The-

The Meeting instructed the Secretary to convey to the Rev: Grant their appreciation of the work that he has done for the Movement and to express their wishes for a happy future.Mr. Rheinallt Jones, on behalf of the Meeting wished Mr.Woodfield a very happy and pleasant holiday and a safe return.DATE OF NEXT MEETING:Mr.Rheinallt Jones was requested to fix the date of the next Meeting.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS THE MEETING M S DECLARED CLOSED AT 6-p.m.

CONFIRMED AT THE MEETING ON

ACTING CHAIRMAN.

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\I . MIMUTKii OP TriS 43rd IfE TIJfO OP THE TRANSVAAL PATHFJ.KD12R\ \i COUNCIL, held in the COi^ITT.IE ROOM, 3C0UT iliiADioUARTERa, JEPPE\ ,ARCADE, COM^IoolONER t»r., JoHAft lEoBURG, on VSBlfSSBAY, 13th JULY, 1932, nt 4.30 P.M.

*r J.L.Rheinallt Jones (Chair), Rev* C.E.Wilkinson,Rev* *.Jaeckel, Revi S.Carter, Messrs K.H.Fleischer, •Whlteley, G#Bacon, and L.V.Gauntlett.

A..ULOGY An apolohy for absence was received from i*r P.A.Raleigh.liao Chairman welcomed Air Wilkinson who has taken the place of Mr Grant, and **r Jaeckel.Xhe Minutes of the previous Meeting having be n circulated, were taken as read and confirmed without elteretion.

^ATT^RS ARISING OUT OP Ta i u MUTES-ilIXBAik■> JIoXk ICT Ho reply has been received fromKinsey.

^ x.:iY In reoly to a letter of thanks the society thanked the Council for its letter and hoped that it vthe society) would be able to render further assistance in the future.

Ta® Treasurer stated that the balance at July 1st 1932 was 6 2, and that until Jans 1933 the Council had contracted to pay :ir Bacon ^106 Id 6 in salaries. * Zhe jL'reaaurt;r stated, re aiotor oar allowance, that Mr Bacon nad done 572 miles in key and 436 TUles in June* at o cost of 3d. per

mile this a counts to &12 1L 1. Assuming that ;£r Bacon would average per month until January expenses would be further increased by 4.60,

making a shortfall of approx: idO for the year 1032 excluding sundry ex iendj ture*After a discussion it was moved from the Chair that inview of i-

1) fact that the Council had not the money on hand nor ie i l'rely to obtain further subacriutions this year,2) the terms of *lt Bacons contract,

and 3) the faot that in lieu of a subscription .r Bacon is getting his board and lodging free wnilst in Johan esburg, the Council vould not be Justified in unking Ur Bacon a further petrol allow,^noe for his car.

The Meeting agreed to the .lotion with regret, and auued a rider to the effect that ur Bacon snould keep % mileage record so that the Council would be ghle tc heln Hr Hacon at the end of the year if possible to do so.

It was agreed to the signing of the Balfince•>neet as correct..CP M.JHUIBS r Fleischer stated that in view of the

financial position the ocouts would no longer circulate their Minutes and would be unable to orepnre and circulate the Minutes for the Pathfinder Council.„ . , .. — . BftCon suggested that the "Pathfinder** besubsidised to publish ant notices of importance for the Council.

1^ was agreed that the Secretary approach the editor of the "Pathfinder" re this suggestion.of the Hlnutce. “ WaS ’> eT ' e d t0 111 «»" «■ “ • ‘ ° «i«w»UUo»

1 I'TJjJQij,. a r Hheinal.lt Jones :aoved tlia t Meetings ehould

Bf ju u t . C o^ atte . S F c i S S i .vo" r * ° oan s j s s r 1 ieetine if there u f°r -

* ^ v/aB agreed that the Committee shouldBaconSe?he iit th® Chief ’«thfinder, D.P.M.a5acon, The editor of the Pathfinder”, ut Fleiechejr and Mr Gauntlett.

Qjt' _HI.at it was n reeti, subject to the confirmation of, „ , , tiie Divisional Pathfinder, that the nexteeting ahoul* be held on Wednesday, 12th October, 1X2.

/r ‘ 'J'h» It was unanimously agreed that a letter of_ appreciation and thanks be u»*:it to the 3co tCouncil for having preoared and circulated the -iinutes in the past.

xth'iIJTRAiI0H > a liat of these naving bean.. , circulated, were confirmed withoutalteration* A further liat wn.a nl«0#| v.efore the Meetinr and confirmed*

D .. _ r J 0*?.jil. Kuhne, in a report, oroposed thatP*«. D*C*. aritmte, who hue had G youru LJathfindi»g experience and has studied at Lovedale and in England, bft i^oointed A«D*p*H* far the --auis Trichardt Diatriot* Di .heinnllt Jon a seconded the proposal*

_• -•■•.m A% T -Extract from a report hy !r Baconi-i'he iinnlo of the M J*B*Youn<£ emoripl Trophy'1 for theitjralar«r«,..u ez*6 eld at the on June 1th* The Trophy who

i °n !*<* -ohar. eaburg B ( t• Peters ) Troop by n r.;argin of 20 pointsin apite of a handicap of 10 points* The ..unncro up *ere 1 Benoni roop*

k ted by \v Unllenden f the iptiveW ■ ixrj --c n r t .e . t* "

:ir rts showing marks obtained ■■ere hr :ded out • an the whole results showed low efficiency but good

spirit >rev ij.ea* The Competition ’ -is reted as rn incentive to many TroopsIn reply to r ^heinal'* Jones, Both ’at Bacon and r

Car-er were of tne ^pinion that interest on the iitwaterarand was beiiur revived*Vrirtv.L-i'i>j3oi'AIOI . xtraot from a report by fir Bacon*-

/AT Baojn visited the District on 2Gtn. June and found Z troops in formation and running*"

. xtract from a report by iiy Buconi-r Bacon visited JSvaton on 21st June and re ortn *1 Troops or whica xa registered* -ie axao received information of » tro • t . > tic*

* _ n - *e &ft&ra* * i*ot,h ...o-.j of tr»«»o «e-r'» ndertho Chairmanghi > of tr Opperman, Acting Principal of the 9ilterfor«e Institute,was held at Evaton* It was proposed at tliat meeting that Buntings Siiouxd oe held fortnightly for Instruction under lieoars* -ooyi,-O! .s, s id aiaibela. It was also viruposed that Mr liekabele anould ret nn o* .»*.*.* until the return of Dr inw, Principal of trie Institute*

, At that Meeting it was decided to jufcftit the followingresolutioiis io the Transvaal Councii »•^ l) A Biatrict of ilvaton be formed withheadquarters at livatcn*

2) Tuat for the time being the J.P.JL. ,oold be tnc . . « of tae Pitwatersrand*3) ^hat tne rthfinder .iasters of all Troops in the District together with such lembers as the D.P.M. might approve, should

be rouogiiiaetU aa a District Committee to make such arvauge^en&s for thefurttiering ca i.ati finder interests iu the Districts ro may Ijn an provedby the Dm P*'U

4r Bacon stated t ;at the area w*uld not be definite: defined but would be roughly an area within a 20 mile rtdiua of Evaton* I3vaton is about DO uiLles from Johannesburg*

At Carter suggested that the representation on the >resentative enough and felt that the matter

until the return of Dr Go a*

The Meeting agreed that the consideration of tne resolutions be left over until the return of Dr Gow and theDivisional Pathfinder*a-'if-Affi,,. Bacon foemally asked for leave to attend theTraining Camp at Lemana* Granted*

-r Bacon asked for permission to hold an Officers Training Camp from 23th July • August 1st inclusive at-*r Stephens farm at deidelburg* Permission was gra nted*

AjjKICAM TBAC .Jl\3 AooOO LATIUNMr Bacon attended a Conference of the above Association he was asked many questions about Pathfinding and gave information tolo teacaers who wish t start troops*

Bacon proposes,“with the consent of the Organising Committee, to institute a Pathfinders CIpss at the cominp Bantu isteddfod*I'l^rHXSTa Mr Bacon stated that he had had enquiries from

^ylsiroom, rierksdorp, P.usteiiburg and armbaths and wished to know whether there are any likely persons in in those districts willing to help*Hheinallt Jones 3tated that the DivisionalPathfinder lco :ed after the troops in the Hyl3troom area* he thought Xb

that Revs L.T.Sadler would help in the .Varmbaths area and proposed that ir ifidler be spj.roached to become e D.P.X..r Jnec tel suggested that *ie Karburg, Bethel, “aermansburg ..is ion Institute, might be willing to heln in the ustenburg area*

. The Meeting agreed that Mr Rheinallt Jones bef.axed to approach Mr Sadler and ...r Liarburg for their co-operstion*-v1'— The Meeting passed a vote of thanks to 1ir

li&oon for his report and the work that he hasdone*Carter proposed a vote of thanks to all the ocouts and Scouters on the Reef who ore helping the Movement*

A letter was received from Mr Roberts . % , tendering his resignation as D.P.M. of theitos lk District oweing to ii3 transfer to Barberton* The resignation wa3 accepted#

The Secretary was instructed to write to Mr rcooerts ttmn^ing Aiia for the work that he has done in the .itbank area -isking hia to aocejt the position of D.P*h. of the Barberton

district w.nera at tne moment there are no troops running*rt* A. report from A.D.P./i. P. J.OlipVrmt states

that tne "J*B*Young -ienoritil Troohy” for that area was won by the XI Pietersbarg Troop with il Slim Trooo runners up.w •. JiiahTih.' LhcTiilCI Extract from a repeat by hr Molefe

* Mr holefe visited the I Jouberts Kop Troop on <2Jth April. 30 boys '/(ire on parade, a fair number were in uniform* ±he keenness of the boys was very evident and especially that of the Readers who all passed tbeir Tenderfoot Teats* The Troop is well hanlled by the P.;., ar ^oatse*Tr. ir -*ol«f« visited the I Platrand Troop in Jun<in spite of t«e bad weather all the boya turned out, everyone of them being in uniform* Tenderfoot work was excellent. 5 Leaderdpassed tne Test*. . . -aT " olefe concludes H In all my experience X+OMn.?i1Ie eraoer.0?einfi * 3!ilarter troop*- it was at Platrand that I felt tangibly tae spirit of i'athfi iding* It seems impossible to imagine the keenness and interest of the P*M* Jr Gamede*

-iilj'Zou 1A Jxw>xxilCT i'ir iiheinalit Jones informed the Meetingthat -.6 «,nd -ir Bacon would be visiting

the Pretoria Biatrict in August and hoped to be able to do muchgood work there*COatBIflSB .PflTHgiiHiaEK A.-iL SaYFA^ER RALAY Hrs Rheinallt Jonesreports t.at Lady Clarendon has fixed Saturday, 22nd October as the date of t.ie Hal y at iLilnerton*

jj'u.a-: -i 3 .con stated tuat he could get a Ih.ij.nicsBadge made laoally fur dr Stephen*

The leeting agreed to Its being made*AjD LAV/w iU AjS."-.* .ir Bacon has had ax sax the "Promise "and

'laws", with short explanations of the laws, tr?- oi^teU . nto u>oa by 3 uLudoata* ie r.a ced t .at -a copy of this translation be sent to the o. Pathfinder Council with a reconiend* ption for adoption*

The meeting agreed that in t.he absence ofthe translation it could not agree to the recommendation and decided to leave tile matter aver until the next meeting*

Ahere being no further businessr the ..eetinras declared closed at 6 P* i*

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COMMITTEE ROOM, SCOUT HEADQUARTERS, JEPPE ARCADE, COMMISSIONER ST.,JOHANNESBURG ON THURSDAY. 29th 3EPT&.iBER 1932 AT 4*30 P»M.PRESENT Mr J.D.Rheinallt Jones (Chair), Messrs K.H.Fleischer,

P.C.Sykes and L.V.Grauntlett*MINUTES The minutes *f the previous meeting were read and confirmedMATTERS ARISING OUT OF THE MINUTES

nilnerton Rally Mr Rheinallt Jones stated that representatives of the Pathfinders and WayfarerB and Messrs Cox and Huxley had met at Kilnerton and made all arrangements for the Rally and that the Secretary of the Wayfarers would furnish a full report in time for the Divisional Council meeting*

The Secretary was instructed to notify Consolidated African Pilms Ltd*, and the press of the Rally •

It was agreed that Mr Rheinallt Jones shou] draw up a list of persons to whom invitations should be sent*

Zeerust Districta letter was received from the Rev* Rouse

recommending Mr Mogorosi as P*M. of the I Motsoedi Troop* Mr Rouse has offered his help as far as is possible*POTChEPSTROOM DISTRICT a report of the activities in this distriolwas rendered by A*D*P*M* L.Jteyn

extract t-H work has been going on steadily* The II Potohefstroom Troop has combined with the I Potchefstroom Troop and

these have been s plit into the II Potchefstroom A, B and Junior Troop*A new troop has started with difficulty at Uitkyk, Ventersdorp and the Troop at Lichtenburg is making progress*Klerksdorp Troop has closed down as there is

no P.M* The Pathfinders and Wayfarers had a stall ata Church Bazaar and realised £1*

The European Seotion in the District show no interest in Pathfinder work*Mr Steyn concludes that he will be transferred to Ventersdorp in the near future* MMr Rheinallt Jones reported that the Pathfinc

er band had been a nuisance at a recent Enrolment XIXBH Ceremony of the Wayfarers* The Secretary was instructed to call Mr Steyns attentior to the Regulation with regard to bands.

It was agreed that Mr Steyn had not shown as much interest as was to have been expected, in his district and has not yet straightened out his own troop* It was decided that as Mr Steyn KKKXIiftifKftgX till be leaving Potchefstroom shortly his Warrant would lapse and that it would not be renewed until events Justified th« step* It was agreed that on Mr Steyns departure, MrMakau of the United School should be approached to supervise the distriot*KLERKSDORP DISTRICT It was agreed to ask Revs A*Spencer Watson, to approach the Joint Council to form a sub-committee to promote Pathfinder interests in the Klerksdorp area.STAiiDERTON DISTRICT Extract of a report by A.D.P.M. C*P.,olefei-

"work is progressing by leaps and bounds.Troops In the looation are showing the essence of Pathfinding- idle­ness is being replaoed by hard work on the part of the boys* All thiir spare time was being taken up with Pathfinfiing* TheI STANDERTON Troop is going ahead steadily and already 26# of the boys have finished their Second Class Tests and are working for Proficiency Badges*

The local Scoutmaster( Rev; Cranswich) is XX taking a keen interest and lias Offered the help of the Scouts at all times* "

It was agreed to thank Mr Molefe for his

excellent report.PRSSEH TATI ON THE Secretajy was instructed to thank The Compound iiana^ers Association and Mr B.Carter for their donations of JS5 and £1 12 9 respectively, which money lias teen used for the 1st* and 2nd* prizes for the J.B.Young iciaorial Trophy on the Reef*IRAIHI3G CAUx- AT xJSM.UA The Secretary was instructed to thank Ur Uongalo (a *P*M*) for his very able and excellent report( filed) and was instructed to send a oopy of the report to the Editor of the "Pathfinder" for inclusion in the next isuue*^OLQTIiSTAD DISTRICT A letter was received from Mr A,Ramonti asking why his troop had not teen registered*On enquiry the Secretary stated that ur Ramonti had not sent in any registration cards*It has been ascertained that Ur Ramonti some time ago borrowed about £3 from Ur Carter, and that in spite of repeated requests Ur Ramonti has not refunded the money* It was agreed that until Mr Ramonti had paid the money back to Ur Carter the Council would not consider an application to run a troop* The Seoretary was requested to write to Ur Ramonti to this effect*After a discussion, it was agreed that in view of the diBseation that exists in the district, the I lolotestad Troop which is running at present should be cancelled until the difficulties can be sifted out*APPOIMTMBWTS AHD REGISTRATIONSTHese were consideredby the meeting but only those so indicated were approved, the remainder being re/ferred back to the D*P*M*s* tfr Sykes who was not present at the meeting when Ur Makabela was registered, stated that Ur Uakabela owed him money for a previous camp and opposed the registration* It was agreod tWUt to cancel the Warrant and to notify the D*P*M* concerned*

The Secretary asked whether oards sent in for approval and marked XilAlAlAiiJt-v£alhrJLnd6£ XtiUUUB Acting Assistant or acting Pathfinder Master should be approved* It was agreed that euch registration was unconstitutional and served no iseful purpose*The Secretary was instructed to notify the D*P*M*s of this decision*It was agreed that from now onwards registrations VUL& must oonform to regulation in every respect*

The Secretary was asked to write to Mr P.Jensen informing him of the qualifications necessary for a Pathfinder Master* It was agreed to tttllX register the Linokana troop though there is some doubt as to the Pathfinder Masters ability* It was agreed to ask Mr Jensen to give what help he is able, to the troops in his district*SXAUI1BSRS It was agreed that the Editor of the "Pathfinder”should be asked to announce that troops should make their own arrangements for examiners for badge tests, and that it is up to the D*P*M*, on receipt of a proficiency certificate to satisfy himself that the examiner is qualified to conduct such tests before he countersigns the certificate*RUSTISHBUhG DISTRICT Ur Jones stated that Mr Karburg is unableto look after this division but that he has been the names of several people who may be interested* Ur Jones said that he was visitihg that area shortly and would try to get someone to look after the area*ROAD TRANSPORT ACT Mr fleischer stated that the Scouts and therefore the Pathfinders had been given exemption from certain sections of this act and that it is therefore possible to transport Pathfinders by motor lorry#REGISTRATION AatD CEMSUS FXiS after considerable discussion it was agreed to recommend to the Divisional Council that a nominal fee of 6d* for every branch of a Group should be payable on registration and that thereafter a uniform fee of l/- per branch should be payable on the taking of the annual census*

ThiB is in line with the 3oouts and more suited to the pocket of the Pathfinders*jjATS OF ..NEXT uliTEXIHQ It was left to the Chairman to fix the date of the next meeting*CBMdUS The Secretary stated that the Census returns as atSeptember 1932 were as followsi-Offioial. 104 Troops. 174 Officers 3743 Pathfinders.Unofficial.143 Troops 243 Officers 4538 Pathfinders.

Of these there are 21 Troops in the Witwatersrand jmregistered, the regaining troops unregistered being either newly formed troops or troops in country districts which itelMX can seldom be Xe&LAt&ta&x visited.

It was agreed that Mr Bacon be asked to tectify the position on the Reef immediately and to see that in future tnose troops that are unregistered do not get any ooncessione that registered troops are entitled to*

There being no further business the meeting terminated at6.30 P.M.COtfPIRiffiD

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REPORT OF EXECUTIVE CUuIilTI. .: *j E4b.BR3 J*D*Rheinallt Jones(Acting Chair) Revi Canon S.P.Woodfield,

Messrs K.A.Jleiscaer, J.R.Rathebe, P.C.Sykes and L.V.Gaunt-

The Committee met on 17th August and 29th Soptenber 19o2*T lc C.o' nitt^e decided that week end onmps on the Reef for tht training of Officers aiiould be discontinued for therest of th.-i /-ear, the cr-.ips tn be replaced by a series of day's

instuuction in the various sections of the Keef for Officers in theiimiediate lec lity.

*Lr Dacon was aa^ed to draw up plans for a big camp at Heidelburg next faster.Li^ANA IRaA-lI Kf C ' ~P See A*P*M* tongalo’s report attached*-i ILLY AT KILtTIRT jIT The date of the dolly has been changed to

Saturday lkth Joveuber 1J31-# Capt* hitehas agreed to tike charge of all arr its at Kilnerton* Variouscirculrra have been issued with regsrci to tae Rally*

T3. idr Bacon stated tnat he and ir -luline wcro of the opiniont ;nt tents ore erjctential a Training Counse* buildings

are unsatisfactory and the weather ardiy periaitted sleeping out of do ttli ft covei • Ur Kuhne e LdstM t tat the k <irit of competition .was largely due to t^e tenta*uu/M j j£ * ' J jii Three Pietersburg Troops under -Ir Oliohant

fortaed a Guord of ionour for the Governor General on hid recent visit to Pietersburg*i>-: .GLR rA IliF INLjIR 3 The Co^ijittee recoi.'uuends to the d iv is io n a l

Council t:vt "students in their second mid Third years at a Secondary bchool saould be allowed to bec -ie Ranger Pathfinders*

n-y RiST jyioTiiTCT Iiev: R.Rouse has o'f ered Wiiat help he is a' leto give in this District*

i? «-44Rl ■■■>-'« ..AJi-dCJT * j*p*U* C*^« 'olefe reports that work in theDistrict is >rogreasing by leaps and bounds*

Diu ■ *IO .S Donations of a£5 and j£L 12 5 have been receivedfron t if! Compound Lianagera Association *tnd

Rev* S.Carter respectively for the 1st* and 2nd. Prizes for the J*x>.Young Ue;.orit>.l 'Trophy on the Reef*vT It v/as agreed that in view of the friction

that exists in this area, the I ’iolotestadTroop be ciused down*A 3 TR AT i 0.! Q-dllf-j us F -:!3« The Coi'imi ttee reconuiends to the

Divisional Council that " a nominal fee of 6d* for every branch of a Grpup should be XXXJEX payable on registration and that thereafter a uniform fee of l/- per branch of a Group should be payable on the taking of the Annual Census*

Chairman*

MINUTES OF TUB 44th MEETING OF THE TRANSVAAL PATHFINDER COUNCIL HELD IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM, SCOUT HEADQUARTERS, JEPPE ARCADE, COMMISSIONER STRESS, JOHANNESBURG, ON WEDNESDAY 19th OCTOBER 1932,AT 4.30 P.M.^RESBBT Ren Canon S.P.Woodfield (Chair), Rev* J.Dexter Taylor.

Rev* Father E.Klayley, Rev* C.E.Y/ilkinson, Rev* S.Bovet. Messrs K.N.Fleischer, P.C.Sykes, J.D.Rheinallt Jones, F.K.Raleigh.G.Baoon, S.H.Mbambo, J.R.Rathebe, S.P.Mqubuli, A.Mole and L.V.GauntletAPOLOGISS. Apologies of absence were received from Archdeacon

Parker, Messrs P.Whiteley and J.F.Oliphant.WELCOME t Mr Jones, on behalf of the meeting, welcomed back the

Divisional Pathfinder after his holiday in England.afeESijAaS FRuM CHIEF SCOUT The Divisional Pathfinder read to the

Meeting a message from the Chief Soout, Extract «- "Please tell your workers and boys with what closeinterest we are watching thifcr progress and how cordially I wish them good Camping and the best of sucoess in their work and games."

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING The minutes of the previous meetingwere read.aiUUaa&J3jtm£& an alteration was made to the report by Mr Baoon. Mr Jones proposed,

seoonded by Mr Sykes that the Minutes be adopted. CARRIED.MATTERS ARISINB OUT OF liiE MINUTES

1) Revj Kinsey has agreed to act as D.P.M. for theWitbank District.21 The Editor of the "Pathfinder" lias agreed to

publishnotices of importance arising from meetings of the Council.3) No reply has been received from Rev* L.T.Sadler re becoming D.P.M. of the Warmbaths area.4) Mr Karburg regrets that he is unable to -take an active part in Pathfinding.5) ur Baoon stated that he had not been able to get

& translation of the"Promise and Laws M in Xosa in time for the meetingREPORT..OF THE .EXECUTIVE CQu. ITTjJi ( report and Minutes filed).

Mr Rheinallt Jone3, seconded by Mr Bacon proposed that the report be adopted.CARRIED.MATTERS ARISING FRuM THE EXBCJTIVE REP(XIT

X) It was agreed to submit the recommendation re age for Senior Pathfinders to the 3.A.Pathfinder Council for discussion.2) The Council agreed to the adoption of the reco mendation re registration and Census fees.

FINANCE The Treasurer reported that the balance on hand as at31st September 1932 was £29 14 5. Mr Bacons salary to the

end of November amounts to £30 11 2, a shortfall of 16/9. To meet our liability to Mr Baoon for December and January a further£31 7 8 is required. There will also be various sundry expences such as bank charges, stationery expences and the expences of the Councils Representatives to the S.A.Pathfinder Council. The Treasurer thought that the Wesleyan Mission would donate £25 and the Swedigh Mission £10 with these donations Mr Bacons salaries could be met and the balance.£3 12 4 left for sundries until the end of January.

Mr Wilkinson was asked to speak to Mr Carter about the V-esleyan donation.It was agreed to refer the Financial matters to the Executive Committee.It was agreed that in the event of failure to trace

the FL'G for the "J.B.Young Memorial Trophy" for the Pretoria *District

A P P O I N T - A M D REGISTRATIONS. A list of appointments and registrations was placed before the Ueeting and confirmed without alteration*HOH EXECUTIVE RANKS ITwas agreed to reoomnend to the S.A.Pathfinder Council that " Certificates, valid for one year should be issued to Non Executive Rahks*"CENSUS RETURNS The Return to September 30th 1932 was placed

’ before the meeting (filed with minutes). The position indicatesa large increase in strength though the returnis by no means complete.After a discujsion Mr Sykes proposed, secondedby Ur Gauntlett, that the Census should not be takeb again untilSeptember next year. CARRIED. , ..It was agreed to refer the question as to whethetroops should psy their re-registration fee early next year, to theExeoutive Committee*Tgi.7£f!tton qf OFFICES Ur Fleischer proposed, seconded by Mjr Sykes,

' that the present Council should continuein office until 30th September 1933 thus getting a full years workin, of the present Council under the new regulations* CAttSI^D.DISTRICT REPORTS It was agreed to refer the Distriot Reports to thi

Executive Committee*REPRESS iiT AT IVES TO THE j.A.PATHFINDER COUNCIL The date of the next Headquarters meeting has been provisionally fixed for December 17that Bloemfontein. , „Ur Bacon nominated J4e33rs Rathebe and Gauntlettas tho Councils representatives. There being no further nomination Ur Bacons Nominees were declared elected*RALLY AT KILLER TON T HK Chairmaa stated that he, Urs Rheinallt----Jones and Captx White had drawn up asuggested programme in accordance vith an interview with Colt Davidson A*D*C. to the Governor General. The Suggested Program me was placed before the Meeting* After considerable discussionit was agreed that Ur Jones should get into touch *ith Captx White with regard to the Pathfinder Displays. It was agreed that Ur Fleischer And Ur Jones should be given full powers with regard to the arrangements for the displays.CORRESPQMDA;.CE ^ „ _1) A letter was received from A.D.P.-t. C.p. Uolefe stating that oweing to local disagreements he would be leaving Standerton at the end of this term and v/ould be coning to th Reef* Mr Uolefe had assured the P.M.s in the District t that the Council would see that the District was supervised*The Council regretted to hear that Ur Uolefe, who has done excellent work in the Standerton District would beleaving* Secretary was instructed to write to UrCranswich, 3uperintendant of the Church 3chool, with regard to the supervision of the District* It was agreed that Ur Mortimermight be approached* . . ...2) Several enquiries had been received withregard to travelling arrange ents to Kilnerton for the Rally* It was agreed that the correspondance should be handed to Ur Jones who has been making the travelling arrangements.3$ A letter was received from Ur opencerWatson of the Joint Council at Klerksdorp, stating that H would be willing to help the Pathfinders in the Di strict ifneceo^c*ry. ^ ^ letter was received from Ur Ollphantstating that Ur Clark had been taking him out by oar to the Troops in the Pietersburg District. Ur Oliphant recommended toat iir Clark be awarded the Thanks BadL:< The Chairuan stated that Mr Clark was an Officer in the Movement and tK&lXmoreover that inthe

the circumstances he felt that Mr Clark was taking this as an opportunity to learn to drive, The Chairman did not consider that the Badge should be awarded. Agreed. It was decided that the Chairman should thankMr Clark for his help.

5)Mr Baoon stated that he had had a letter fror Mr Aohterberg, Superintendant of Schoold, saying that there were many Potential Pathfinders in many of his schools and felt that the schools should he sent circulars about Pathfinding. It was agreedthat the Pathfinder Policy was not to seek the formation of new troops^ more particularly as the movement was growing so fast that adequate control and efficient administration is impossible at the moment.

Mr Baoon was asked to write a non committal letter to Mr Aohterburg thankinh him for his interest and information.EHKOlfc-iEJT Ml1 Wilkinson took the Pathfinder Promise and was enrolled by the Chief Pathfinder.ThANifci Mr Woodfield thanked Mr Rheinallt Jones for acting as Chairman

during his absence, and the Secretary for the work he has during the last year.BATS Off NEXT MEETING It was agreed that the date of the next meeting

should be left to the Chairman.There being no further business the meeting terminated at 6.45 P.M.

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THE GROUND OF THB KILNEUTON INSTITUTE, PRETORIA ON SATURDAY, 12th NOVEMEBER 1932 AT 2.15 P.M.

P p :!®7* Ca?°5 3.P.V/oodfield(Chalr), J.D.Rheinallt Jones,« w v J,Bacon» T^eo Kuhne and Capt.P.F.F.White, A.D.P.M.so.H.Mbambo, J.C.Marivate, F.J.Oliphant,J.R.Rathebe, C.P.Molefe,M r ^ v X u n t l e t t f ^ de* “*** D‘P#3towe11* Rev* d exter Taylir and

?iIi3ionai. Pathfinder welcomed all the District Officersm2rrv.fi J n **?etinS had *>een called to get together all those members of the Council who were rarely able to attend the Councils

#• au«g«8ted that they should bring any difficulties or questions for considerationGapt* ':jhite asked if it would not be possible for iri? 0fficers to keep small stocks of badged on hand thus sarins

mUS • and P°B^age. The meeting felt that it would be convenient and the oecretary was instructed to approach Mr Pleisober about the xftatter«iazUE OS BAD‘J!2J It was felt that some of the P.M.s were isnueing• cadged to boys and officers who had no right to them. It was agreed tl that the only way to minimise this difficulty lay in the hands of the officers tnemselves for headquarters keep very strictly to the regulations governing the issue of badge*.^O^C.igNqY ^ 5 , CERTIFICATES It was agreed X&XKi that the Secretary should have forms printed for Profioiency BadgeMX Certificates and circulate them amongst the officers.&gj^RgINGjJ$ BADGES It was agreed that every officer should be bound to keep a proper and up to date record of all badges and stars issued by him and that the officers should see that these records are Kept up to date on the Pathfinders oard, and initialled and dated.ajjRVICB ** waa agreed to reoomwend to the Divisional Council

i } 20 ^ear atara are now available, no Pathfinderor officer in tne movement should be allowed to wear more than five A star3 for any one branch of a grou >•

ff ~r* was a&reed that th* quality of service starsm oould be improved, ihe clips on the present stars break off when bent.

COST /OF BaD.'ES It was a-reed that the costof badges is far too high, as an example the Wayfarer badge was of a far more intricate design than the Pathfinder badge and yet cost much less./ : ' ■' ** wa8 proposedthat a percentage of the profitsOi) the snle of Pathfinder Badges should come to the Pathfinders. After a discussion the motion was vetoed.

C^RCJ.l./.TIKJuF ...NwTES Mr Kuhne stated that he regrettec t;iat the circulation of the Minutes had ceased. He said that for the District/it was as a rule their only connection with the Divisional oouncil. ( It was agreed t6 recommend to the DivisionalCouncil that a report of items of interest to District Officers should be circulated.3H5 .O.rflEFS ,TALK_ The Chief Pathfinder said that Pathfinding had taken

4a deep rout inthis country. One had only to think of the Rally in the ,, morning and look about one at the moment to be convinced if that was necessary. He asked all Offioers to realise, and male their bovs realise that i-

1) The Pathfinder Movement was not merely confined to the Transvaal but that it extended throughout southern Africa- There are Divisions in the Union, The Protectorates and both Rhodesias.

2) that the Pathfinder Move lent is now a part of the Scout Movement - that great brotherhood that extends throughout the

3) that Pathfinding means aomethingmore than dressing up in uniform, attending meetings,blowing bugles or drilling. It meant carrying out the principles, the promise and laws in everyday lifej in the ordinary routine and duties of the day the real Pathfinder is helpful and keeps cheerful.

4) that what the Governor General had said in the mornigj had come right from the heart and that he had told the Chief afterwai that he had not been so thrilled for a long time and would at his first opportunity convey the Pathfinders expressions of loyalty to HI iiajesty, The iving.

5) that though the 3.A.Pathfinder Council wa3 the chief executive body, it was entirely dependant on the support which it received from the Divisional Councils who were in their turn dependant on the support which they received from the Officers and boys. Ho wished to emphasise tnat the S.A.Pathfindervdid not legislate just as it pleased but was governed entirely'by the sentiments and opinions of the Officers and boys.

The Divisional Pathfinder thanked the District Officers for their support and asked them to carry to their Officers and boys hie great appreciation of the way they had tuened up ZeXXXMXX£IX£X and conducted the Rally which had been so wonderfullyXXJCJC successful.

CONFIRMED AT THE MB3TIH0 OH

CHAIRMAN

PATHS’ I NDER COUNCIL HELD AT THE BANTU MENS SOCIAL CENTRE, ELOFF ST.,JOHANNESBURG ON MONDAY 14th. NOVEMBER 1932 AT 4,45 P.M.

JSH,li« ^ . 3'Pf,00?,field.,(Chair)- “• « « J-B-Hheinallt Jones, J.n*Rathebe and L.V*Gauntlett*APOLOGIES Apologies were received from Messrs P.C.Sykes and xi.a .Fleischer.

withoutUaltar9tion.PrOTiOUS “eeUne ”ere and oonfir“edMATTERS ARISING OUT OF THE MINUTES

, In reply t0 aletter matxta JjtXKJOIfflttX from the cotamittee,** Mr Ramonti stated that .ie does not ac/cnowlwdge a debt of more than £1 to Mrs Carter. t j r» Arter a disoussion it was agreed that Messss Rheinallt

! should he appointed to meet Mr Carter and Mr J J matter out. It was agreed that on the

T l r ! -nijjf! arr??S®d satisfactorily the committee would consider M r Ramontis application to run a Troop*-n ^ JMr W?°d£f*ld stat®d that he would he in Potchefstroom in December and would visit the Potohefstroom Troop.

* 3 "Promise and Laws in JCosa". As Mr Bacon has heen unabl< to obtain a satisfactory translation of the "Promise and Laws" he as ted to withdraw the copy. Agreed*MAjTE^S ARISING OUT UP THE MINUTES OF THE 44th ME -TING OF THE VISIONAL CUUN'.ILT ---— ~M V *-------

1) The reports from the D.P.M.S of the Witwatersrand and Potchefstroom Districts were handed over to theDivisional Pathfinder for his consideration*

2) Census Fees* It was agreed that fees for 1933 | would not fal due until September 1933*

AT.KILLERTUN The Rally to meet The Patron, The Earl of 19+Vl . * - Clarendon took plaoe at Kilnerton on Saturday12th inst* The weather was perfect. There were 1741 Pathfinders on parade, representing 32 Troops. Discipline was exoellent. Nearly all tne boys were in full uniform. All enjoyed themselves* The Governor Generals speech was exceptionally fi e and made us feel that he was really proud to bo the PATRON of the Movement*

j ij Railway Officials, Scouts and Scouters exoressed thexr appreciation of tne discipline shown* All were amazed at the fact that 2000 Pathfinders and Wayfarers were detrained and formed up Tor inspection on the parade ground in Just under 15 minutes.. . . ■. _ , *5 was agreed that the Divisional Pathfinder should write letters of thanks to the ReviJ.F.Cox and Mrs. Cox. to Capt* and jars P.F*P*White and to Mr Puxley. It was also agreed that the Secretary should write to the Railways, Scouts, Scouters,Red Cross Society and other helpers thanking them for their help.

The Secretary was instructed to write to Mr Bacon and tne Ofiioers associated with him who did so much preparation for the train arrangements* The Chairman asked Mr Rheinallt Jonesand the Secretary to accept his thanks for the work that they had to do before the Rally* J

ANOINTMENTS AND REGISTRATIONS, A list of these was considered and approved without alteration.LEMS Leave was granted to Mr Bacon for 2 weeks in December.figPUTY C^iP CHIEFJ Mr Baoon asked that a recommendation be sent totne ocout Training Officials asking them to nominate certain •rathfl nder

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