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578 disqualified themselves from acting or co- operating with any body of men whose duty and rule of action should be the exercise of impartiality and fair-play towards all per- sons, without reference to the religious or political opinions of any. I have the honour to remain, Sir, your obedient humble ser- vant, OBSERVATOR. Dublin, Dec. 30, 1835. METROPOLITAN UNIVERSITY DEGREES. To the Editor of THE LANCET. SIR,—Having read two letters in recent Numbers of your Journal, on the subject of the rumoured ministerial University, from students, it will not be thought, I trust, pre- sumptuous in me, though but a country ap- prentice, yet equally concerned in this inte. resting event, to say a few words on the subject. Thinking with your correspondent who signs himself " A STUDENT," that the plan divulged would be little better than a con- tinuation of the certificate system (which enriches the few at the expense of the many), 1 wish to be considered as replying to some few of the extraordinary statements con- tained in the letter of the "KiNG’s COLLEGE STUDENT." On seeing this signature, I was led to suspect something unsound, and my suspicions were increased, when, on reading the letter, I found a long account of the im- moral tendency of students having to pre- pare themselves for examination, without compulsory attendance on " recognised" schools. Your correspondent seems to have overlooked one source of disadvantage to the student from the present plan. Are the morals of young men more likely to be en- dangered in country towns, under the eyes of their friends and relations, or when crowded together amid the temptations of populous and dissipated cities ? It is not so much the love of mere pleasure, as a fond- ness for company, that leads young men into the excesses of youth. Your correspondent seems to wish, that no degree should be granted unless the candidate has obtained ’certificates uf attendance on lectures, when i he himself allows that they are often pro- cured without attendance. " How many are there," he exclaims, " who never show ’themselves in a lecture-room more than three or four times a week!" And yet these -young men obtain their" certificates." Why then should certificates be required ? Provided a student passes his examination, in conse- quence of having acquired suflicient know- ledge to enable him to perform the impor- tant duties of a medical practitioner, what i more can be needed by an honest govern- ment ? The present system also tends to prevent the country practitioner from raising him- self above mediocrity, as he has no induce- ment to devote much time to the instruction of those pupils who are placed under his care, and who, after spending five years in comparative idleness (unless there be much dispensing operations), go to London, attend the " recognised" hospitals, and there are professed to be taught their profession, while, in reality, the system in the end pro. duces little more than the " fees" which they are obliged to pay to the lecturers,- not a harvest of knowledge to the students. But, Sir, that part of your correspondent’s letter particularly astonishes me, where he says, that if young men " were to graduate directly on coming to London, relying solely on their own exertions for getting through their examination, and without being put to any expense, being sons of farmers, trades- men, &c., their graduation would detract from the respectability of the graduates as a body." This, in the nineteenth century, from a student of medicine and surgery! The gentleman, no doubt, is the son, or perhaps the grand-nevey, of one of the " big wigs" of the profession, or surely he would not write thus. Are men of enlightened minds to be refused the means of graduating, be- cause, forsooth, they are sons of tradesmen and farmers ? Surely the gentleman forgets himself. Praying that the cause, of which you were so long the sole supporter, may soon tram- ple down its great enemies, monopoly, pre- judice, and self interest, I remain, Sir, your obedient servant, A COUNTRY APPRENTICE. Taunton, Dec. 18, 1835. THE TUNBRIDGE-WELLS CONTRACT. To the Editor of THE LANCET. SIR,—As I am the 11 individual alluded to in the communication made by Mr. Way in your last week’s LANCET, allow me through the same medium to state the rea- sons why " alone of all the medical men" .. objected to sign the resolutions entered into by those gentlemen who formed the meet- ing referred to. I did not, as is there stated, ., decline from the first to act with my pro- fessional brethren." On the contrary, I attended the first meeting (held at Mr. Way’s house), perfectly willing to join them in any arrangements which might meet my approbation, or ready to state my objections to any measures not in accordance with my views of the object for which we had been summoned together. Having been called away soon after the business of the meeting

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disqualified themselves from acting or co-operating with any body of men whose dutyand rule of action should be the exercise ofimpartiality and fair-play towards all per-sons, without reference to the religious orpolitical opinions of any. I have the honourto remain, Sir, your obedient humble ser-vant,

OBSERVATOR.

Dublin, Dec. 30, 1835.

METROPOLITAN UNIVERSITYDEGREES.

To the Editor of THE LANCET.

SIR,—Having read two letters in recentNumbers of your Journal, on the subject ofthe rumoured ministerial University, fromstudents, it will not be thought, I trust, pre-sumptuous in me, though but a country ap-prentice, yet equally concerned in this inte.resting event, to say a few words on thesubject.Thinking with your correspondent who

signs himself " A STUDENT," that the plandivulged would be little better than a con-tinuation of the certificate system (whichenriches the few at the expense of the many),1 wish to be considered as replying to somefew of the extraordinary statements con-tained in the letter of the "KiNG’s COLLEGESTUDENT." On seeing this signature, I wasled to suspect something unsound, and mysuspicions were increased, when, on readingthe letter, I found a long account of the im-moral tendency of students having to pre-pare themselves for examination, withoutcompulsory attendance on " recognised"schools. Your correspondent seems to haveoverlooked one source of disadvantage to

the student from the present plan. Are themorals of young men more likely to be en-dangered in country towns, under the eyesof their friends and relations, or whencrowded together amid the temptations ofpopulous and dissipated cities ? It is not somuch the love of mere pleasure, as a fond-ness for company, that leads young men intothe excesses of youth. Your correspondentseems to wish, that no degree should begranted unless the candidate has obtained’certificates uf attendance on lectures, when i

he himself allows that they are often pro-cured without attendance. " How manyare there," he exclaims, " who never show’themselves in a lecture-room more thanthree or four times a week!" And yet these-young men obtain their" certificates." Whythen should certificates be required ? Provideda student passes his examination, in conse-quence of having acquired suflicient know-ledge to enable him to perform the impor-tant duties of a medical practitioner, what

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more can be needed by an honest govern-ment ?The present system also tends to prevent

the country practitioner from raising him-self above mediocrity, as he has no induce-ment to devote much time to the instructionof those pupils who are placed under hiscare, and who, after spending five years incomparative idleness (unless there be muchdispensing operations), go to London, attendthe " recognised" hospitals, and there areprofessed to be taught their profession,while, in reality, the system in the end pro.duces little more than the " fees" whichthey are obliged to pay to the lecturers,-not a harvest of knowledge to the students.

But, Sir, that part of your correspondent’sletter particularly astonishes me, where hesays, that if young men " were to graduatedirectly on coming to London, relying solelyon their own exertions for getting throughtheir examination, and without being put toany expense, being sons of farmers, trades-men, &c., their graduation would detractfrom the respectability of the graduates as abody." This, in the nineteenth century, froma student of medicine and surgery! The

gentleman, no doubt, is the son, or perhapsthe grand-nevey, of one of the " big wigs"of the profession, or surely he would notwrite thus. Are men of enlightened mindsto be refused the means of graduating, be-cause, forsooth, they are sons of tradesmenand farmers ? Surely the gentleman forgetshimself.

Praying that the cause, of which you wereso long the sole supporter, may soon tram-ple down its great enemies, monopoly, pre-judice, and self interest, I remain, Sir,your obedient servant,

A COUNTRY APPRENTICE.Taunton, Dec. 18, 1835.

THE TUNBRIDGE-WELLS CONTRACT.

To the Editor of THE LANCET.SIR,—As I am the 11 individual alluded

to in the communication made by Mr. Wayin your last week’s LANCET, allow me

through the same medium to state the rea-sons why " alone of all the medical men"

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objected to sign the resolutions entered intoby those gentlemen who formed the meet-ing referred to. I did not, as is there stated,., decline from the first to act with my pro-fessional brethren." On the contrary, Iattended the first meeting (held at Mr.Way’s house), perfectly willing to join themin any arrangements which might meet myapprobation, or ready to state my objectionsto any measures not in accordance with myviews of the object for which we had beensummoned together. Having been calledaway soon after the business of the meeting