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Page 1 of 12 Meeting with Shri. Rajeev Soni, Sr CE Elect Mumbai: SNEA delegation led by Com. Abhay Kesarkar Joint Secretary NRU SNEA MH comprising Com. Sameer Shinde DS SNEA ACE Mumbai, Com. Ankit Gangar JS HQ SNEA MH and Com. M. S. Adasul, CS SNEA MH, on 03/10/2017 had introduction meeting with Shri. Rajeev Soni, Sr. CE Electrical Mumbai in his chamber. We had details discussions of different HR as well as development issues related to Electrical wing and discussions were very positive & result oriented. After introduction of newly elected office Bearers of SNEA MH Shri. Rajiv Soni congratulated all. The details of discussions are as follows. 1. Request Transfers of executives in Electrical wing and consideration of all pending request transfers: Shri. Rajeev Soni, Sr CEE stared discussions by expressing displeasure about the indiscipline among the executives in Electrical wing in not following transfer orders and mainly for not understanding need of BSNL. He specifically mentioned case of Com. Vishwas Kulkarni SDE E Satara under transfer to Goa and expressed displeasure that Com. Kulkarni has never represented his grievances through proper channel and never met him representing his grievances but trying for cancellation from other sources and creating undue pressure on the management which is not correct and acceptable to him. We expressed that we have no idea about grievances of Com. Kulkarni and he has not represented his case to SNEA. CEE further added that there are lots of works at Goa and there is urgent requirement of officer in Goa and Com. Kulkarni is shifted under guidelines of non-sensitive posts and possibly at nearby location to present posting, but till there is reluctance and this is not encouraging. We have added that if there was so extreme need of SDE Elect at Goa by transferring Com. Kulkarni then there was no need of transferring Com Sudhir Nair from Goa to Pune that to be within two days his transfer order was implemented, i.e. first day order issued by afternoon, second day he was relived from Goa without posting proper substitute and by giving additional charge of higher cadre to his JTO with wrong precedence. Hence Com. Kulkarni may have reluctance in joining at Goa with feeling that to adjust all of sudden and pick and choose transfer of Com. Nair, he is being troubled by shifting from Satara to Goa. Sr. CEE

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Meeting with Shri. Rajeev Soni, Sr CE Elect Mumbai: SNEA delegation led by

Com. Abhay Kesarkar Joint Secretary NRU SNEA MH comprising Com.

Sameer Shinde DS SNEA ACE Mumbai, Com. Ankit Gangar JS HQ SNEA MH

and Com. M. S. Adasul, CS SNEA MH, on 03/10/2017 had introduction

meeting with Shri. Rajeev Soni, Sr. CE Electrical Mumbai in his chamber.

We had details discussions of different HR as well as development issues related

to Electrical wing and discussions were very positive & result oriented. After

introduction of newly elected office Bearers of SNEA MH Shri. Rajiv Soni

congratulated all. The details of discussions are as follows.

1. Request Transfers of executives in Electrical wing and consideration

of all pending request transfers: Shri. Rajeev Soni, Sr CEE stared

discussions by expressing displeasure about the indiscipline among the

executives in Electrical wing in not following transfer orders and mainly for

not understanding need of BSNL. He specifically mentioned case of Com.

Vishwas Kulkarni SDE E Satara under transfer to Goa and expressed

displeasure that Com. Kulkarni has never represented his grievances

through proper channel and never met him representing his grievances but

trying for cancellation from other sources and creating undue pressure on

the management which is not correct and acceptable to him. We expressed

that we have no idea about grievances of Com. Kulkarni and he has not

represented his case to SNEA. CEE further added that there are lots of

works at Goa and there is urgent requirement of officer in Goa and Com.

Kulkarni is shifted under guidelines of non-sensitive posts and possibly at

nearby location to present posting, but till there is reluctance and this is

not encouraging. We have added that if there was so extreme need of SDE

Elect at Goa by transferring Com. Kulkarni then there was no need of

transferring Com Sudhir Nair from Goa to Pune that to be within two days

his transfer order was implemented, i.e. first day order issued by afternoon,

second day he was relived from Goa without posting proper substitute and

by giving additional charge of higher cadre to his JTO with wrong

precedence. Hence Com. Kulkarni may have reluctance in joining at Goa

with feeling that to adjust all of sudden and pick and choose transfer of

Com. Nair, he is being troubled by shifting from Satara to Goa. Sr. CEE

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Mumbai expressed that there is nothing wrong in transfer of Com. Nair

from Goa to Pune and he is transferred to Pune to stop chain of complaints

against electrical wing Pune. He expressed that the officers presently

working at Pune are not efficient and on posting of Com. Nair only

efficiency of Pune has been increased and complaint has been stopped from

Pune against Electrical wing. We have expressed that it may be fact that

these complaints may have been made under influence of Com. Nair so

that he gets his request transfer to Pune. This is undue advantage given

to Com. Nair and wrong practice that one officer is being transferred

just on name of certain unwritten complaints and such pick and

choose transfer of single officer depriving other officers cannot be

justified on any base. We made it clear that complaints about any unit

cannot become justification of particular officer for popular station at Pune

and it is insult of other officers of Electrical wing working at Pune because

this interpretation and justification of transfer of Com. Nair from Goa to

Pune creates picture that all other officers in Electrical wing Pune are

inefficient and not capable to stop the complaints. Perhaps it may be fact

that it was only Com. Nair who has created environment that Electrical

wing at Pune is inefficient in his absence and hence complaints may have

been called for and once he got choice transfer to Pune, he may have

stopped calling for complaints and hence complaints have been stopped. If

it is matter of compliant, we will start making complaints and direct other

to complain so that left out officers in need of transfers will get transfers.

Also after joining of Com. Nair at Pune, it does not mean that everything is

right and till there are complaints at Pune, hence nothing is like that after

joining of Com. Nair, the Electrical wing Pune has improved. Then CEE

informed that it was compliant of PGMT Pune that performance of

Electrical Pune was worst and no one from Electrical wing Pune bothers for

issues raised even from PGMT Pune and hence under recommendation of

PGMT Pune who was also charge of CGMT MH due to 20 days foreign tour

of CGMT MH Circle and under these circumstances transfer of Com. Nair

was issued. We expressed that this justification is not correct and we

strongly believe as it is part of discussions among the other officers in

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Electrical wing that something wrong deal has been taken place and hence

pick and choose transfer of only Com. Nair has been issued. Then CEE

expressed that CEE has such powers to transfer officer on need basis and

he further justified that Com. Nair was transferred as he has completed

\Tenure at Goa. We expressed that if it was case tenure transfers and

really if his office was interested to issue transfer of tenure completed

officers then it should have applied for other request transfers from namely

from Com. Ajit Bhatkar JTOE Goa who has more stay (three and half years

) in Goa than Com. Nair (Two Years two months), Com. Gangal SDE E

Sindhudurg , Com. Pote SDE E from Ratnagiri etc also have requested on

basis of completion of tenure station but none of request was considered

and Com. Nair only is favored by giving transfer to Pune on pick and

choose basis. Then CEE informed that Com. Nair also has some genuine

personal issues and hence he was given priority on transfer. We informed

him that we have no issue if management gives consideration to genuine

family issues of Com. Nair, but why his management is not in position to

extend similar helping hand to other executives who are having more

genuine problems than Com. Nair. We brought to his notice that the

request of Com. Bhangale SDE Elect Parbhani is pending in his office and

he has requested for Aurangabad to take care of his father who is

undergoing medical treatment due to critical illness which has provision in

transfer policy to give due consideration to request on such medical

grounds, Com. S.O. Patil SDE E at Nandurbar which is also tenure station

at par with Goa and really tribal area and Com. Patil also has genuine

medical problems due to critical illness of his brother, but office of CEE

Mumbai never given aggressive consideration and their requests are

pending with EE HQ Mumbai since March 2017 without any action and

only request of Com. Nair who do not have any such genuine critical issues

which permits such pick and choose transfer and till he is favored by

issuing his transfer and relieving him from Goa on next day by illegally

handing over charge to junior and on third day Com. Nair joins at Pune

and from fifth day so called complaints from Pune are stopped is just

amazing. If ‘more number of complaints is only criteria acceptable to CCE

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Mumbai then it is quite possible that in days to come more complaints are

expected against officers in Electrical wing and these complaints will be

stopped only on such transfers. CEE expressed that he has acted as per

requirement of PGMT Pune & then looking after CGMT MH and other

genuine cases can be considered if fits in transfer policy but transfer in

case of other officers is not possible as CGMT MH has given him

instructions not to transfer any officer from Electrical wing as it will affect

the roll out of GSM Phase VIII.4 Expansion project which is prestigious

project for Maharashtra Circle. We made it clear that transfer of 2-3 officers

having genuine problems can be given extra ordinary helping hand as

extended to Com. Nair who even do not have such genuine problem. But

CEE insisted that for all other request transfers, the action will be taken in

March 2018 and not before that mainly due to GSM expansion project. We

have added that the genuine request transfer of Com. Bhangale, Com.

Kunjekar, Com. S.O. Patil etc which are less than seven n number will

not affect this project as they are limited only for particular subdivision and

till GSM project is not started and by the time it starts the substitute

officer will take care of such issues. Finally CEE Expressed that he will

have review of the cases referred by SNEA and after ascertaining

genuineness of these requests and by confirming the genuineness of

medical grounds quoted in their requests, the request has been asked

for will be considered and other request will be given consideration in

March 2018.

2. Extension of Retention granted to certain officer: During discussions

we have pointed out that his office has granted retention to certain officers

in sympathetic grounds and some have requested for further extension up

to March 2018. Sr CEE Mumbai informed that he has already decided that

due to upcoming GSM expansion works all such officers who are granted

retention will be extended up to March 2018 in all such cases of retention.

3. Review of Tenure stations for Electrical wing executives : Then we had

discussions on confirmation of tenure stations for Electrical wing as

though for Telecom Stream executives Goa, Sindhudurg, Ratnagiri, Raigad,

Nandurbar and Gadchiroli are tenure stations, same is not case with

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Electrical wing and it has ample executives in area of Goa, Sindhudurg,

Ratnagiri and Raigad SSA and situation at Solapur, Parbhani, Beed,

Nanded etc SSAs is worst and hence matter needs separate review as per

requirement of executives working in Electrical wing as being done by

Account wing for Account officers and there is no need to blindly follow the

transfer policy at par with telecom wing which is defeating very purpose of

Tenure stations and its use for the executives working at difficult and non-

popular stations.. CEE Mumbai agreed to have relook at this issue by

ascertaining facts and taking decision on tenure stations specially for

officers working in Electrical wing.

4. Unrest among Electrical wing Executives due to mass Charge sheets

even on Petty amounts and solutions thereof: We have detail

discussions on this issue and we have brought to notice of Shri. Rajiv Soni

CEE Elect Mumbai that at present the entire team of Electrical wing in

Maharashtra Circle is demoralized and there is mass unrest due to action

of Circle Management in issuing Mass charge sheets to the executives in

Electrical for some minor procedural mistakes or rather no mistake on

their part. It is fact that everybody is aware that who is culprit in this case

and who has swallowed the lakhs of rupees of BSNL and who is misguiding

BSNL for last ten years. But it is unfortunate that knowing the facts also

the culprit is given free hand and other innocent are being charge sheeted

by quoting only facts that the ACG -17 with their signature is available on

the records. In case of grant and submission of temporary advance there

are different steps which are followed in routine manner from written

application , recommendation of controlling officer, sanction of competent

authority, disbursement of amount, its utilization for said purpose,

submission of bills with ACE -2 account , its acceptance by Account

Officers, its accounting to each head, accepting cash balance , its entry in

the cash book, Temporary Advance register, closure of Temporary Advance,

its incorporation in monthly/quarterly. Six monthly and yearly accounts,

completion of Journal Slips etc and here in this case every step has been

followed in case of real advances and in case of fake advances also

everything is followed by said master mind culprits in the Account office. It

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is unfortunate that when none of documents is available just on basis of

ACG -17 which are also manipulated by the said culprits, more than 18

executives of Electrical wing are issued with minor charge sheets with just

petty amounts in hundreds of rupees & 7 executives are issued major

charge sheet penalty and in most unwanted manner one executive has

been reverted from EE regular post to SDE Post & about 6 executives are

transferred and posted at non-sensitive posts. We expressed that entire

stress is given on only one step and only one paper ACG -17 without

mentioning exact amount for accepting the money of Temporary advance

which also these executives may have given under faith of Account officers

as all were in field units. It was mistake on part of Electrical wing that

when they have noticed fraud immediately action would have been taken

against concerned Account Officer , but much time was consumed and it

seems that time was given to concerned AO Shri. S.B. Bhosale, and his

special assistant Shri Kallepalli to play with records and accounts and

finally picture is created that officers in Electrical wing are only

culprits and it has demoralized all the officers in Electrical wing and

there is mass unrest among executives due to casual approach in

dealing this case. If action was taken against concerned AO and his

Assistant in time, BSNL Money would have been recovered and these

innocent officers would not have been troubled after 10 years to search and

submit the concerned documents proving their innocence. The officer who

was responsible for keeping custody of the relevant documents is not asked

for such documents at right time, when asked he has never produced said

documents and as documents are not available the officers who are not

responsible are being punished blindly. We also expressed displeasure that

in case of minor charge sheets double punishment is awarded in some of

cases settled i.e. censure as well as recovery of the amount from the official

and it most unfortunate and demotivating manner the action is being taken

for recovery of the amount from monthly salary of the concerned officers

without their consents. As per records available, it is clear that claimed and

unclaimed temporary advances are settled and nothing is pending on part

of these officers in Electrical wing. Also cash balance shown against these

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officers from claimed Temporary advances cannot possible as n BSNL there

is no procedure to accept partial ACE-2 account Temporary Advance and

officer concerned has to submit bills of total expenditure of amount or

balance amount is to be deposited with cashier. If balance amount is not

deposited in such cases Temporary Advance bill is not accepted and

temporary advance is not closed and here all cases of claimed and

unclaimed temporary advances are closed as official procedure and now

balance amount of Temporary advance cannot be marked against names of

these officers. Not only this, there are many strong points in support of

innocence of officers in electrical wing and SNEA MH will submit detail

representation in this matter in coming days. We further made it clear that

all the actions on part of management are discouraging as management is

not ready to punish real culprit and mastermind in this case who has

swallowed lakhs of rupees of BSNL and this has created mass unrest

among executives of electrical wing. If no corrective and supportive action

is taken in time, then every officer in Electrical wing will try to save his skin

from procedural lapses and this will have greater impact on the works and

achievements of targets of Electrical wing including the GSM Expansion

project of this year. This matter has been taken in single unit of Solapur

Division and officers affected are spread all over Maharashtra and there is

need of corrective action from competent authority. We have made it clear

if matter was not handed over to Vigilance and corrective actions would

have been taken by CEE this present unwanted situation would not have

been occurred as much time has passed and main culprit Mr. Kallepalli

has opted for VRS after playing with official records and he is not traceable

now. We requested Shri. Rajiv Soni, Sr CEE to come forward as a family

head of Electrical wing to protect of innocent executives with corrective

action by understanding depth of their representations on charge sheets,

outcome of Inquiries undergoing in major charge sheets, appeals against

the punishment in minor charge sheets given to CGMT MH. We added that

in any fraud all are not culprits and only one or two are mastermind

culprits and here till now only two names of mastermind have been noticed

and it is responsibility of management to punish real culprits and save

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innocent ones and this natural justice. We made it clear that we will not

come in way while management is punishing real culprits and we cannot

be silent spectator when the innocent are punished by one sided action by

issuing Charge sheet, awarding punishment by neglecting their genuine

say, making entry in service Book & awarding forced recovery of amount

without consent of the innocent officers just to safe guard the influential

culprit and master mind of this fraud. We added that SNEA MH will extend

full support & come forward to take up this matter with CGMT MH for

given real justice to innocent executives of electrical wing.

While listening to our say CEE has added some supportive information on

our say and expressed that on prima facie he also feels that there is

something wrong in this case and someone has played deliberate

mastermind game and he has gone through the certain cases. He also

informed that he has discussed this issue with CGMT MH also and assured

that his office will take at most care that innocent is not punished and

responsibility is fixed with real culprit in this fraud case. He further added

that there is no need of fear in minds of executives in Electrical wing as

everything is being done as per official procedure and assured to complete

all the processes as early as possible. He added that there are instructions

to all IOs to complete inquiries in time bound manner, and was optimistic

that unrest among executives in Electrical wing will be settled in days to

come.

5. Bifurcation of Electrical sub division Panjam and Madgaon in Goa SSA:

We explained difficulties faced by executives in Goa SSA due to non-

bifurcation of Panjim and Madgaon subdivisions and this case has been

recommended by GMT Goa as well as EE Goa. After detail discussions, Sr

CEE Mumbai assured that he will personally look into this matter and

approval for separate sub divisions of Electrical wing at Panjim and

Madgaon will be conveyed shortly.

6. Utilization of ideal manpower in Electrical wing & distribution of

workload: With classic examples we have brought to notice of CEE

Mumbai that some of officers in Electrical wing are underutilized or even

not having minimum required work and some are loaded with heavy work

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load and this needs to be corrected. Besides there is a lot of scarcity of

officers in field now a days Ph. VIII project is likely to come. But these

officers are enjoying by sitting merely in the planning section where already

enough staff is available. Sr CEE agreed that there are some officers

enjoying without work and assured to allot proper work to these officers by

decreasing work load of officers overloaded.

7. Misuse of Immunity of some of officers to save from long stay

transfers: We have detail discussions on the misuse of immunity and

misuse of medical documents in support of cancellation of transfer orders

by some officers in electrical wing and misuse of the facility available for

needy executives. Sr CEE Mumbai informed that he also is not satisfied

with such actions of misuse of facilities and assured that in days to come

all such cases will be settled as by ascertaining facts of medical grounds

and as per the policy for grant of immunity to any office bearer as approved

by BSNL.

8. Out dated practices followed by Electrical wing in Electrical rewiring

wiring in Staff Quarters and need of review thereof: We have brought to

notice of Shri. Rajeev Soni Sr CEE Mumbai that there is unrest among the

officers staying at Wadala and Dadar Staff quarters as the Electrical wing is

not following the current trend in the Electrical Rewiring works. When in

modern life the interior of the house has much importance, the Electrical

wiring carried out by Electrical wing at some of these staff quarters, has

damaged interior of the staff quarters due to ‘n’ number of pipes on walls,

the hard clips of iron used for fitting pipes, the flexible pipes caring

electrical current crossing on windows, the height of switches placed at odd

locations and mainly we have objected on the way the concealed wiring is

done partially. We explained him how Electrical wing has followed wrong

trend that when pipe carrying electrical wiring is coming up or going down

the pipe carrying fittings is kept concealed and when this pipe/fitting is

moving horizontal then it is open surface pipe fitting and also such open

pipe are running on all walls and all corners of all walls. This has made

these staff quarters shabby and it looks like that quality officers Staff

Quarters are converted in hutments areas flats and about all executives

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who have carried out works in their staff quarters have expressed his/her

disappointment about the quality of and style of electrical wiring and has

demanded for changes these wrong practices. We added that Internal

Electrical wiring work at Prabhadevi & Wadala Staff quarters has been

stopped due to this poor quality and poor standard works in quarters

rewiring works. We have requested that if Electrical wing is so concerned

about the open wiring then it should use PVC Casing-Capping wiring work

instead of Half Concealed & Half surface wiring system. We have informed

that we have taken up this matter with then CEE Electrical Mrs. Neelam

Singhal, and then looking after CEE Electrical Mumbai Shri. R.I Yadav and

both have issued instructions to EE/SE Electrical Mumbai and his team to

take immediate action to review the specifications and adopting fitting

either entire concealed i.e. both horizontal and vertical fittings as concealed

one and if it is not possible to go for concealed wiring then to go for non-

concealed wiring with casing capping to maintain high quality of interior of

the staff quarters with assurance for approval of any such proposal for left

out staff quarters with justification. But unfortunately till there is no

action on part of SE/EE Electrical Mumbai and on the contrary they are

compelling the residents for accepting wiring with present lacunas which is

causing hardship to residents. We are sorry to inform that nothing has

been done concrete on resolution of this issue and the work of Electrical

wiring is held up since last 4-5 months and electrical rewiring is being

done in staff quarter which is vacated and not allotted to next officer. If

Electrical wing continues in this manner then it will take years together to

complete the rewiring works. We requested CEE Mumbai to look into

matter to make good alternative arrangement in this regard to avoid future

difficulties and to make a very good quality work in staff quarters.

In response CEE Mumbai informed that that as per CPWD work pattern

Electrical wing can go ahead with use of casing capping wiring work in

Residential buildings and due to objections by Chief Engineer Civil, we

have not made provision for full concealed piping work in estimates itself

and advised us to take up matter with CE Civil Mumbai Shri. Kumar Manoj

and if he agrees then his office will take action for entire concealed wiring

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except few points/locations where concealed wiring is not possible due to

beams and pillars. It was finally decided to review matter after confirmation

of facts from Shri. Kumar Manoj CE Civil Mumbai and his office approval

for concealed horizontal wring and assured to direct concerned officers to

review the matter.

9. Individual Request for transfers by Electrical wing Executives: SNEA

MH has received following request and we have requested CEE to consider

these cases on sympathetic and genuine medical and personal grounds.

i. Com. Prashant Bhangale (JTOE) has requested for transfer from

Parbhani to Aurangabad, on completion of two years at unpopular

station Parbhani to take Father’s Oncology Medical treatment at

Aurangabad. Father is facing Lung-Cancer of fourth Stage & Doctor

has recommended personal attention for his reaming life of some

years.

ii. Com. Sudhir Patil (JTOE) Nandurbar has requested for transfer

from Nandurbar to Mumbai who completed two years tenure at

Tribal and unpopular tenure Station. Com. Sudhir Patils younger

brother undergoing Cancer treatment ,his son is also undergoing

some medical treatment which requires keen attention & his parents

are old age and he is in badly needed of request transfer to Mumbai

for cancer treatment of his brother.

iii. Com. Suhas Kunjekar (JTOE) has requested for transfer from Nasik

to Pune, who has completed three years stay at Nashik and his name

was excluded from transfers issued in April 2017. Officer has

personal family issues of school gong children residing at Pune and

he is unable to shift family from Pune.

iv. Com.Riyaz Shaikh (JTOE) has requested for transfer from Solapur

to Sangli who has completed two years tenure at this most

Unpopular Station of electrical wing. Then CEE Mumbai Mrs.

Singhal has assured him in writing that his tenure will be of two

years and he will be given choice posting after two years but yet his

name was not considered in last transfer orders.

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v. Com. Sadashiv Kudale (JTOE) has requested for transfer from

Solapur to Satara who has completed two years tenure at this most

Unpopular Station of electrical wing. Then CEE Mumbai Mrs. Signal

has assured him in writing that his tenure will be of two years and

he will be given choice posting after two years but yet his name was

not considered in last transfer orders.

vi. Com. Ajit Potdar (JTOE) Kolhapur has requested to change his

Nanded posting to Satara or retention at Kolhapur as he has already

served for 7 years at most unpopular tenure station of electrical wing

i.e. Solapur SSA

vii. Com.Jitendra Gharat (JTOE) Goa has requested to Madgaon

Electrical Section or transfer to Telecom wing (Mobile/Broadband) as

Madgaon is commercial Capital of Goa & not a single electrical

executive posted at Madgaon section.

The details discussions held for more than one and half hour concluded with

our request to CEE Mumbai to have transparent and uniform transfer and

posting of executives in Electrical wing to give equal justice to all executives with

true spirit. If required some policy can be framed at par with Telecom wing or

even same policy can be followed with minor changes in tenure stations for

Electrical wing and assured total support from Representative Association SNEA.

Lastly we conveyed thanks to Shri. Rajiv Soni Sr CEE Mumbai for holding

healthy and positive discussions on different issues and his assurance for

resolution of issues at the earliest.

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