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MASTERMIND OF 9/11! Rabbi Dov Zakheim: Under-sec of Defense

MASTERMIND OF 9/11! Rabbi Dov Zakheim: Under-sec of Defense Fri Jun 11, 2004 02:45 69.43.13.1 I believe that Mr. St. John has just identified the Mastermind of the operation of Sept. 11th! READ THIS ARTICLE AGAIN! http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=57214;show_parent=1 "In the context of 9/11 it also needs to be pointed out that Rabbi Dov Zakheim was Chief Executive Officer of System Planning Corporation's International Division until President George W. Bush appointed him Undersecretary of Defense and Comptroller of the Pentagon. Not long before Rabbi Zakheim rose to power over the Pentagon's labyrinthine, bottomless accounts, he co-authored an article entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century" which was published by The Project for a New American Century in September 2000, exactly a year before 9/11; in this article, on page 51, it is stated that "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor"! Voila! 9/11!" Anyone else done any research on this stealthy, never-mentioned "undersecretary of defense" (authority) and controller of the Pentagon (funding/power)? TIME TO PUT THIS NAME AT THE FORE OF CHIEF SUSPECTS---and, without apology, here is a obviously Jewish/Zionist (Rothchild agent) man of authority, with the remote-control expertise (CEO of System Planning Corporation--aircraft remote control tech!), with authority just under Rumsfeld, the PNAC policy WRITER (talk about central figure!), and the power of shifting funds within the Pentagon itself! This suspect shows Motive, Means, and Opportunity...all in ONE MAN! I believe he could very well be THE MASTERMIND OF 9/11! (Amazing how he is never mentioned in press either). POST ANYTHING ON THIS MAN!! Time to indict, not an Arab, but a Jew!



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Link This was posted as a reply at APFN by poster Doris Pounds MASTERMIND 9/11 Sat Jun 12, 2004 03:15 4.240.60.14 Just read the articles, and I CONCUR. Do a search on: LUBAVITCH NOAHIDE LAWS,and you can read "Anatomy of a ONE WORLD RELIGION." It explains the INNOCUOUS- 'EDUCATION and SHARING DAY, U.S.A. Law, that George Bush signed into PUBLIC LAW 102-14, a Congressional Resolution on the Seven Noahide Laws (H.J. Resolution 104, Public Law102-14)- March 26,1991. America's Political, Judicial,

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Educational, and Religious- Paradigm Shifts, are the result of the Zionist TALMUD (not Bible) Laws etc.- that are destroying America from within. Do you have any suggestions as to how- we can STOP THIS DESTRUCTION? Enough is Enough. ....Doris



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Link This was posted by APFN poster Stephen M. St. John as a reply. Citizen Dov Zakheim Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:19 162.83.244.22 Rabbi Dov Zakheim resigned his positions of Undersecretary of Defense and Chief Financial Officer at the Pentagon effective 15 April 2004. This was confirmed by Lt. Col Roseanne Lynch 703 693 6858 after I called Zakheim's Pentagon office at 703 695 5254. Comments can be made to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld at 703 692 7100 (Fax 703 697 9080) or to Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz at 703 692 7150 (Fax 703 697 7374) or to Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith at 703 697 7200. They are standing by now and waiting for your call. They know the jig is up. No security videos of those dirty rotten Ayrabs boarding the "hijacked" flights. No testimony of those dirty rotten Ayrabs boarding the "hijacked" flights from airport terminal employees who deal directly with the flying public and who are very likely to recollect their faces because the flights had egregiously low numbers of passengers. We can go on and on about the strange happenings of that awful day. Will the 9/11 commission lay it on line?



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http://0911.site.voila.fr/index.htm Tuesday, September 11, 2001; 4:59 PM Steve Patterson, 43, said he was watching television reports of the World Trade Center being hit when he saw a silver commuter jet fly past the window of his 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City. The plane was about 150 yards away, approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground, Patterson said. He said the plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter jet, flew over Arlington cemetary so low that he thought it was going to land on I-395. It was flying so fast that he couldn't read any writing on the side. The plane, which appeared to hold about eight to 12 people, headed straight for the Pentagon but was flying as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway, Patterson said. "At first I thought 'God, there's a plane truly misrouted from National,'" "Then this thing just became part of the Pentagon ... I was watching the World Trade Center go and then this. What's next?" He said the plane, which approached the Pentagon below treetop level, seemed to be flying normally for a plane coming in for a landing other than going very fast for being so low. Then, he said, he saw the Pentagon "envelope" the plane and bright orange flames shoot out the back of the building. By Barbara Vobejda Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, September 11, 2001; 4:59 PM http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html Part 1 Trajectory http://0911.site.voila.fr/index1.htm



http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm APFN] SOLID DATA SUGGESTING "FLIGHT 77" WAS ACTUALLY A MUCH SMALLER DRONE JET! http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_dronejet.htm Flight 77 Timeline http://professor2222.tripod.com/Flight-93/Fl93.Pentagon.htm Flight 77 Mystery: A Disinformation Campaign http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0203/S00051.htm Pentagon Investigation Progresses, Relief Work Goes On http://www.disasterrelief.org/Disasters/010914pentup/ Flight data, cockpit voice recorders found in Pentagon wreckage http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/nation/0914pentagon.html Eyewitness report from a gas station supervisor http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1211_wirepentagon.html Flight 77 Accident description http://aviation-safety.net/database/2001/010911-3.htm 9-11 ACTIVIST KIT http://www.apfn.org/apfn/9-11_activist.htm BACK IN 1995, THE AMERICANS KNEW THAT TERRORISTS WERE LEARNING TO FLY http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/03/12/26933.html Pentagon Turn-To-Dust Event http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/



Haroun (radical) 06/12/04 04:46 AM


I had no trouble finding info about this "never-mentioned" Undersecretary of Defense. He was a principal financial officer of the DOD, responsible for rooting out fraud in defense contracts. He was sworn in on May 4, 2001 and he resigned effective April 15, 2004. When he wrote that 2000 essay you quote he was not in the govt but serving as a campaign advisor to Gov George W. Bush. What I cannot find is any evidence that he is rabbi, or a Zionist, or connected with the Rothschilds.

ThreeOfSeven (rebel) 06/12/04 05:30 AM


What I cannot find is any evidence that he is rabbi, or a Zionist, or connected with the Rothschilds. Dov Zakheim is an ordained rabbi. See YESHIVAT SHA'ALVIM. However, I haven't seen any supporting evidence connecting Zakheim to the Rothschilds or any evidence he was involved in the 9/11 attack. His earlier speculations about the effect of another Pearl Harbor, while they might provide a motive, don't constitute evidence of involvement in the 9/11 attack.

"American-Jewish organizations are, in 2004, no more democratic than the Communist Party was in the late Soviet Union" - Maxim Ghilan

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cyte (extremist) 06/12/04 01:05 PM


Zakheim was capable of diverting Pentagon money to pay the Israeli high tech contractors who did 9/11 using demolition and remote control. This must have cost billions for contractors. Did he?

Mainstream journalism has let us down. It's up to us--the new internet journalists--to dig up the truth and spread it around.

Haroun (radical) 06/12/04 01:23 PM


This is getting progressively pathological. Zakheim is primarily a financial figure, but also an ordained rabbi and from a rabbinic family; somehow people don't think this makes him unlikely to have committed what must have been multiple crimes of the most serious nature. More to the point, there's no evidence connecting Zakheim with remote control flying; as a financial officer he probably had very little to do with technology of that sort - if that technology exists at all. The DOD bio of him identifies SPC International (System Planning Corp) as a "political, military and economic consulting" firm; I haven't found evidence that SPC possesses the ability to remotely control aircraft. On the basis of nearly nothing - except a distinguished career - he is being accused of enormous crimes which somehow have escaped detection.

artbishop (insurgent) 06/12/04 05:38 PM


"POST ANYTHING ON THIS MAN!! Time to indict, not an Arab, but a Jew!" Get it right NW. Dov Z Not any old Jew, but a Zionist Jew! US Congress & Senate Not any old Christian, but a Zionist Christian body! Israel "right or wrong" is wrong. ZionISm the problem. Our love of zion is the problem. We are the problem. We MUST be fair as Americans.



A MAJOR paradigm shift is needed. A kinder gentler fairer foreign policy is desperately needed. Regime change in Washington is needed. It may seem like mission impossible but once we expose the real masterminds of 911 THE WORLD WILL KNWO who the real evil dewars are. Just ask... WHY DID THEY RUSH TO SEND THE DEBRIS OF WTC and the PENTAGON to the INDIAN SUBCONTINENT TO BE SCAVANGED BY INDIAN SCRAP DEALERS? WHERE are the BLACK BOXES found in the pentagon rubble on 9/14? WHAT IS SO SECRET WE CANT HEAR THE RECORDINGS? WHERE ARE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THE 19 HIJACKERS? (they showd us one video clip of atta and his sidekick right?? where the hell are the other "17 hijackers" videos?

"Within a quarter of a century Americans will either have become violently antizionist or they will be devoured by Zionists" NOSTRADOLFMUS

artbishop (extremist) 06/15/04 01:51 AM


Under Secretary of Defense, Dov Zakheim Fiscal 2005 Briefing (Slides used in this briefing are available at http: //www.defenselink.mil/News/Feb 2004/05brief.pdf) The information below, originally provided on background, is now attributable to the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Dov Zakheim. Briefer: We're doing this



again. Same ground rules as always. In addition to what you just heard, just interrupt me. If you can avoid using my name that would be nice. At least one guy, one person each time forgets that, but I know who I am, you know who I am, so no need for it. Next slide. There you see the top line. The reason we got to seven percent is because we're working off of that number. The 6.1 rescission is all booked against FY04. Now in fact we haven't taken it all out of '04. For instance. $3.5 billion has come out of the '03 Iraq Freedom Fund. That's a two- year fund, so we took money out of that one. In addition you've got $800 million that is coming out of other prior year rescissions, $192 in procurement, $28 in RDT&E, $333 MilCon, $164 in family housing, $105 in the National Defense



Sealift Fund which is a revolving fund. $1.8 billion in rescissions in '04, over and above the $4.3 that I've just talked about. Now that came out of the '04 appropriation. What they allow us to do is take it out of either '04 funds, '02 funds or '03 funds. We don't have to make that final, final decision until the middle of August, roughly. We have to take the money out by September 30th. We're supposed to inform them 30 days ahead of time so that brings us to the end of August. So obviously decisions have to be made in August. Again, it's booked against '04 so that's where you get your $26 billion delta and your seven percent increase. Next slide, please. Here we're talking about outlays. Before we were just talking about



budget authority. Why are the outlays down here? Well, this is what we've actually spent in '04 or expect to spend, $433 billion in '04. If you add our supplemental to the baseline budget we're at about $440 billion, with the actual expenditures about $433. And so when you count the supplemental in, there's no supplemental in '05. I know you're going to ask me all about it. There's no supplemental in '04 for '05 is what I was about to say. So right now this is the delta, 3.6 percent with a slight drop from the previous year. Next slide, please. Again, an outlay slide. Here we are as a percentage of the federal budget. If you want to look at, and again the drop is the same drop because of the supplemental in '04. If you want to look at discretionary spending, because the defense budget is part of discretionary spending,



we're at 47 percent. However, I would draw your attention to the fact that somewhere in the region of $27 to $30 billion depending on how you count it, is discretionary in name only because that's the medical accrual account which is about $10 billion; it's the defense health program which is upwards of $17 billion. That's not discretionary. The accrual account, for instance, is decided by actuaries. I get a letter from them, they tell me this is what I've got to put away, this is what we put away. I don't call that discretionary. Nevertheless, the entire budget is considered discretionary and we're 47 percent of the total discretionary spending. Next slide, please, by title. Again, I left the supplemental out so I wouldn't distort a comparison



between '04 and '05 -- keep it apples to apples. A few footnotes, these footnotes simply show you where the rescissions bite. So for instance O&M, the Iraq Freedom Fund comes out of the O&M account and that rescission. Here we don't know where it's going to go so we put it in others. Then we've got prior-year program rescissions. So in terms of measuring apples to apples, it doesn't really show at all except in terms of the actual number itself. Again, you'll probably have questions about this particular change. How come procurement's gone down? To steal my thunder from a later slide, we have funded two ships this year that in the past would have been funded under the SCN account, the Shipbuilding Conversion Navy account. We have funded them in the R&D accounts. Those two ships are the Littoral Combat Ship which is a revolutionary ship, the first



non-blue-water, it's not really a brown- water ship, for those of you who are Navy buffs, but it's a non-blue-water ship, the first of its kind, probably in 40-odd years if not longer. That ship as well as the new DDX, together if they were fully funded would be about $2 billion. That would mean that the procurement number in practice is higher. Now the impact on the shipyards is non-existent. In other words you'll have the same level of effort in the shipyards with the same levels of employment and all the rest of it, as you would have if you had fully funded it. This is a budgetary mechanism. It is not a real life impact on how the ships are being built. RDT&E is up. MilCon, and I'll talk a bit more about this later. If you take that number which is pretty close to where Congress enacted it. Very often we come in lower than the enacted,



significantly lower than the enacted figure for the previous year. You add that to the privatization program which gets you about $8 to $10 for every U.S. government dollar invested. You add that to the sustainment program to keep the facilities up to snuff which is also increased, and you see that we actually have an extremely healthy military construction and family housing program, and family housing has gone up. I'll talk a little bit more about that later. Let's move along. By service here you are. Why is there this disparity? There are two reasons. Between the Air Force, and Navy/Marine Corps and the Army. The first one is the Army's more manpower intensive, person-power intensive, whatever term you want to use. Personnel intensive. That hasn't changed.



The Air Force in particular has a lot of pass-throughs, as does the defense-wide account. A lot of intelligence money and space-related money goes into those accounts and literally passes through. Finally, some of the more evolutionary things that are happening aren't necessarily fully reflected in terms of dollars. I'll talk a bit more about it. General Schoomaker's totally new concept of how to restructure the Army tooth and also the fleet response plan of the Navy which increases the operational availability on very short notice of our major fleet units, particularly carrier battle groups. I'll talk to both of those in a little while. And those aren't really dollar driven, per se. They have dollar implications but that's not where the major changes are really taking place. You've been reading, you've



been writing about what the Army's doing. I would argue that what the Navy is doing is equally as revolutionary and what the Air Force has done, well they already started that in the '90s. So they had their kind of revolution with their expeditionary forces a few years ago, and the Special forces, as you know, Special Operating Forces, that started a couple of years back. We are still with them better aligning particularly the Marine Corps with the Special Forces, moving some of the Special Forces missions into the general purpose forces. So again, you've got a major change there and I'll talk to that a little later. Those all are not really -- the dollar implications are second order, maybe that's the way to put it. Next slide, please. Q: This $9.6 billion increase to the Air Force, you're attributing mostly to intel and space?



Briefer: Not mostly, but a significant proportion. Obviously I can't give you the intel dollars. All I can tell you is there's a chunk of change in there. You can ask my colleague, Steve Cambone. He'll tell you there's a chunk of change in there, ask my colleague. [Laughter] Whoever you're speaking to. Ask my colleague, the unnamed official. [Laughter] The themes. I think these are pretty self-evident. One of the interesting things about Bullet 4 and Bullet 1. MacGregor [Douglas A. Macgregor], who is clearly now widely recognized as a brilliant thinker and an iconoclast, Colonel McGregor has just written a new book. It's called ‘Transformation Under Fire.’ That really goes to these two points. We are under fire. We are still in a war on terrorism. And I'll get to the details about how we're dealing with that momentarily, but that is bullet number one.



We're in a war. Then everything else has to account for that situation, that we are still in a war. Next slide, please. So what are we doing about it? It's pretty self-evident there. Readiness requirements including the operation and maintenance funding. Immediate needs. Force protection is a program that is of extreme urgency. We have been moving funds around in the '04 budget to provide the skirts for our HUMVEEs, to provide the protection for individuals, to get better sensors, and this continues it. This is a direct result of the war on terror. Also there's UAV's. Future acquisition up there tells you exactly, laser satellites and so on. I'll get to those too. We'll talk a



little bit about the legislative authorities momentarily, and the intelligence, what you read is what you're going to hear. Next slide, please. Nothing really dramatic and new in this slide except that once again we're meeting our goals. Now let me talk a little bit about the Army tank miles. Here you have an example of why we need to rethink the way we do readiness reporting. There's always been this question in the analytical community, ready for what? In other words, give me output measures. Don't give me input measures. That doesn't mean you don't want to have input measures. For instance, let's take the tank miles. On the one hand you can say look, General Schoomaker is moving the Army



in a completely new way and those units are going to be lighter. Well, how relevant are tank miles? On the other hand, what goes into the measurement of tank miles? Not just training at the home station, but training at the National Training Center which is the most advanced center of its kind in the world. It also includes simulation training which is a reflection of whatever developments we've made in computer and information technology. So you can't just say well this isn't a relevant metric. What you can say is this may not be the only metric, but since this is the metric we've got, until we work this out, and the reporting system goes to the question of whether you use C ratings or not as well. C1, C2, C3, C4. In the meantime, these are the measures we've got and we're meeting the requirement. That's the important measure. On the system itself, the DRRS [DoD Readiness Reporting System], it's



going to get $25 million to support implementation. It's going to begin running this September. We're going to have a phased implementation over the next three years. And as I say, what we're really looking for are output measures. Ready for what? Let me talk a little bit about this. As I said earlier, when you're thinking about family housing, when you think about military construction, you can't just think about new construction. You also have to think about sustainment. Ninety-five percent is important in several ways. First, it's higher than last year. We were at 94 percent. Second, it's across the board. All the services are sustaining at 95 percent. Third, it's approaching the level where you pretty much have set aside as much money as you need. Now could it be 96 percent, could it be 96.5 percent? Maybe. That's one of



the reasons we have to keep improving our measures and metrics. Because what does this do? What this does is set aside money for anticipated maintenance that will begin 11 months from now and end 23 months from now, so you're projecting what you think is going to break down and how much it's going to cost to fix. Obviously you have scheduled maintenance and that's what governs this. But in practice, in addition to scheduled maintenance you're going to have unscheduled maintenance. So the real question is are we close enough? Is there a better, more refined way of deciding whether it's '95, '96 or '97 percent? We're awfully close to 100 percent. So we've got a pretty good answer here. Next slide, please. Legislative authorities, I mentioned, it showed up in the slide earlier. We have been fortunate that the Congress gave us some authority to train and equip the Afghan National Army and the



new Iraqi Army. We're trying to broaden that authority in two directions. One is with respect to Iraq and Afghanistan to include not just the military forces but the security forces. In other words, in Iraq the Civil Defense Corps, the Facilities Protection Service, the Customs folks, the border police. Why? Because basically the Army is set up, as all armies are, to defend against external threats. Guess what? Between us and our allies there are what, 150,000 or more troops in Iraq right now. They're not worried about an external threat. The real question is internal security. We have currently a couple of hundred thousand Iraqis -- the largest, by the way, force in Iraq -- under arms mostly in these various units. We want to train them and equip them properly. They provide the best sense of security and stability to their neighbors, they provide the best sources of intelligence to us. So we're



trying to broaden that authority to take care not just of the Army, but of security forces, and to do the same in Afghanistan. Q: -- that $500 million compared to the current fiscal year including supplemental? Briefer: The current fiscal year was $150, wasn't it? Q: Including the supplemental? Briefer: Yes. It's a real jump. Q: How does it break down between Iraq and Afghanistan? Briefer: My guess is that the majority, as in the case of what we're doing with CERP [Commanders Emergency Response Program] this year, I'll get to that, we’ll go to Iraq. A significant proportion will go to Iraq. We haven't broken it down yet.



Then you see we've also got part two, which is friendly nearby regional nations. This is one, we go to Congress each year, Congress says we don't want to do it. We originally wanted it worldwide, Congress said no. Be more specific. We said, fine, nearby nations. There are a whole bunch of countries near Iraq and Afghanistan that could use this train and equip support. Remember, what am I talking about? I'm talking about authority which means that it's money that's going to come out of the defense budget as opposed to money that's being added to the defense budget. I would have to reprogram to do this, which if I can steal my own thunder, creates a different problem for me because the Congress in its wisdom will only let me move three-quarters of a percent of my



budget around. When you think about that, since I'm also -- let me put it this way. If you are managing cash in any kind of enterprise you recognize two things. One, the budget's only an estimate; and two, your responsibility is to make the best use of the cash that you can. If you can only move three- quarters of a percent of what you estimate a year and a half ahead of time, you're going to need, you're in really serious difficulties. Now when we go and we ask Congress to reprogram funds, we go and we tell them in advance and they can always say no. Any committee, all the committees that are involved can say no and it stops. So it's not a question of not informing them. But to make these programs really work, you add them up you see it's $1 billion right there, $800 million involved in pure reprogramming. That's a drawdown, a



slightly different situation. You're using up your transfer authority. ON a $400 billion budget right now we're working off of $2.5 billion in transfer authority. That's a serious problem for us. I'll get back to that later, but this is an excellent example of why we need additional transfer authority. The CERP, the emergency response program. This is the single most successful program we've got in Iraq right now. For an average cost of $7,000 per project. We eliminate the middleman, we contract with locals. These are neighborhood projects. These are the things like if you're on a city council what you do all day. You deal with sewers, you deal with health, you deal with sanitation, you deal with telecommunications. If you've got farmers in your district you deal with irrigation. You deal with civic cleanup. You deal with cultural stuff. That's what



this deals with. This is the best way we tell the Iraqi people we're not here to occupy you, we're here to provide you with enough stability so you can get on your own feet and run your own country. No games being played, no hidden card tricks. Nothing. Q: So why is DoD doing this and not USAID? Briefer: Because these projects are being done quickly. USAID deals with big projects. It deals with projects that take a lot of time with RFPs and so on. They have a whole procedure. You want to move something quickly, you want to get a street cleaned up tomorrow, AID is not functionally capable of doing that. That's not what they do. You've got a commander on the ground. He sees that a street needs cleaning up. He sees that the neighbors are getting real



upset and the dogs are starting to bark and the women are starting to shout and the men are starting to grumble. All of a sudden the commander, he or she realizes if we don't clean this up, somebody may decide they want to go over to the other side. If you clean it up you make a lot of friends. You clean it up in six months it's going to take you longer to make friends. You clean it up in 24 hours, 48, 72, 96 hours, people go my God, these people are responsive to us. Q: So what's the increase from '04 for those two accounts? Briefer: Okay, that one I said was 150. This one we were at, it's kind of complicated. We were at 340 but only 180 in appropriated funds. The reason is we took $160 million of seized funds, that is to say the stuff that Saddam and his buddies tried to ferret out of the country or bury in sewer holes, and we used that to fund



that program. And out of that, and this goes back to the question earlier about proportions, just to give you a sense. Out of that $340 million, $300 is going to Iraq, $40 is going to Afghanistan. Then the drawdown authority. The 2003, I believe it was, Afghan Freedom Support Act, allowed us to draw down equipment to supply the Afghan National Army. It's worked out real well. The Afghan National Army, I don't know, those of you who may have been out to Afghanistan and seen these folks when they start out, these are guys, they start out they're crawling on the ground in simulated attacks, they're being shot at, the helmet falls off, everything stops. Got to pick up your helmet. Oh, I forgot, I'm being shot at. That's how they start out. By the time they're finished they're a really well organized, well trained, impressive force. You see these folks, sometimes if you go out to some of the towns where we have Provincial Reconstruction Teams, PRTs, in



the outlying areas. Sometimes you'll see this rag-tag band of the folks who are working for the warlords. Then you see these Afghan National Army folks, and it's night and day. It's having an impression on the locals. It's helping the central government. And oh, by the way, even the way they think is becoming much much more professional. It's not just spit and polish stuff. You go and ask the sergeants what they want. They don't say we want a new tank or whatever, they say we want communications equipment. That's what this program is doing for us. Next slide, please. Q: You didn't give us [ inaudible]. Did that not exist? Briefer: As I said, it was $180 million for CERP.



Q: That was for emergency response -- Briefer: Right, and the previous one was $150 million. Q: And the increased drawdown authority -- Briefer: We got $300 million two years ago, and we used $150 million each. So now we're asking for $200. The SUPP. This is the '04 SUPP. Obviously the biggest -- We think we're going to do fine. This money will carry us through fiscal '04. We're not asking for another SUPP. If we anticipate we're likely to have one but there will not be a request even if we're likely to have a need for one until calendar year '05. We would cash flow whatever we might need in the first quarter of '05.



You're going to say why are you doing that? It's very simple. I challenge anybody in this room to tell me what's going to happen in Iraq after July 1st. Boy, you can make a lot of money if you know. Q: I know where you're going with this because this is -- Briefer: I'm glad you do. Can I finish for everybody else? [Laughter] Q: I think people looking, it's an election year, and with the deficit and Iraq becoming huge issues, this is going to look to perhaps people more cynical than I that this is just an effort to sort of keep a lid on the cost of Iraq until after the election. Briefer: No, and I'll tell you why not.



I can give you three equally plausible scenarios as to what will happen in July of this year. Scenario number one, the handover is smooth. The United Nations loves it. The French say we're ready to send troops in. [Laughter] Q: Plausible? Briefer: Hey, our French friends have said we want United Nations approval. The Germans have said United Nations approval. A lot of countries that voted in the Security Council said we want United Nations approval. What happens if the United Nations approves? I think it's plausible. Scenario number two. Everything that was predicted that would happen when the war began and didn't happen -- mass migrations, mass interethnic killings and interdenominational killings, all happens.



All of a sudden we have a greater demand on our forces. And by the way, the French don't come in. Scenario number three. It goes reasonably well, the handover is reasonable, we have a plan to reduce our forces somewhat and we move along that track. You tell me which one of those is going to happen. Q: I can't tell you, but I think some people might suggest that the Pentagon knows it's going to need extra money for FY05 because the budget doesn't cover contingency operations. It only covers sort of normal day-to-day operations, so therefore some sort of marker might be laid so that Congress knows what it's getting into. Briefer: Look, when we laid



down a marker, and it was a very accurate marker at the time -- In 2002 we went to $ 10 billion for Afghanistan, Operation Enduring Freedom. Congress didn't give it to us. It turned out our estimates were pretty good. This time we don't have a good feel for those estimates. Sure, we can project roughly what a maximum level is likely to be, but we don't want to go to the Congress and ask for a maximum level and effectively say well, it might be a lot less but you give us more. Somehow I don't think that's going to sit well. There is no way to predict, number one. Number two is, since everybody knows full well that we can cash flow the first quarter of the next fiscal year and manage it, because whenever we're late with a supplemental that's what we always have to do anyway, what is the reason?



I would argue the other way around. It's not why are we being cynical about not asking for the money. I'm wondering whether people are thinking clearly enough when they ask that we should come up with it now? Q: If it did take so long for the supplemental to pass wouldn't it be prudent to start it earlier than early next year? Briefer: Not necessarily. If we sent it up with the budget or around that time it would be quite different. If everybody knew it was coming around then, it would be quite different. It's a matter of working closely with the Congress on this. I think it's perfectly plausible to be able to make this thing happen properly, and I don't think the Congress would hold off.



Q: With the first anniversary of the war coming up in March how much did the buildup and the war combat phase actually cost? After all the dust settles. And how much has the occupation cost from April 1st to January 1st, roughly, so we'll have apples and apples there. Briefer: We're still working those numbers. I can give you sort of an average sense and then I'll give you a sense of why it's hard to give you a precise answer. We said, and we reestimated, but basically we were hovering around the $4 billion mark in just about all our estimates. Even the very first estimate that was given to the Foreign Relations Committee which had a lower number, left out the reserves. And if you brought the reserves in there it came to about $4 billion. We've seen in the last couple



of months reporting, and the reporting runs two months late, so already I can't answer your question directly. But the October report showed something in the region of $ 4.5 billion. The September report showed something in the region of $3.7 billion. Why the disparity? Well if you remember, before we got the supplemental and until really January of last year we did not have a special account for those operations. We were forward (cash flowing), forward financing those. Well, when you forward finance you obviously have to pay it back so since the war we've in effect been paying back, it was about $30 billion as I recall, and we've been paying that back. The monthly figures reflect that so there's been that fluctuation. In September we simply apparently paid somewhat less back than we did in October. There's going to be another bump-up and that will be when the troops, when we have the rotation that's



going to take place. When you're going to have this massive rotation you're going to have transportation costs. So it's very hard for me to predict at this stage what the total cost will be, except I can say that as we're getting closer and closer to paying off what we had originally cash- flowed, you're going to see the numbers coming down. Q: In cost accounting in the buildup you must have a somewhat solid figure there. Briefer: That's the best that I've got right now. Do you have any number? I don't think we have anything right now. We can get something. We'll try to generate something. It's because of this complication that makes it kind of -- Q: -- the building and the actual conflict, that will be a year in



March. You don't have the solid figures yet for that? Briefer: Again, because, how do you want to attribute the cost of the conflict? Do you want to just do the month or so or the six weeks or so of the conflict itself? Q: The buildup and the conflict. Briefer: Okay, but again, if you talk about the buildup and the conflict, what about things that you actually spent on that you continue to use after the conflict, for example? You buy ammunition. You're going to use it -- you bought it in the buildup, you use some of it in the conflict, and then you use some more after the conflict. It's not simple. Q: Just to get back to her question a minute ago, how is what you're



doing different in terms of -- Briefer: You can mention her name. Q: She's not unnamed. Her question about the supplemental. How is what you're doing different from what past Administrations always did and that this Administration said you wouldn't do, which is to have supplementals to pay ongoing expenses? Briefer: Sure. The very simple answer is because I was the one that said it in some locations, not necessarily this one so you won't know who I am and what location, but as you recall the statement was made that we would only fund wartime supplementals. This would be a wartime supplemental. It's as simple as that. We have not done anything other than fund costs related to the war. And we have been very scrupulous about this. OMB has been very scrupulous about this. We have worked



jointly with them to make sure that unless there was a direct relationship to the various operations -- Enduring Freedom, Iraqi Freedom, Noble Eagle -- it didn't show up in the supplemental. And quite honestly, I can tell you that that disappointed the expectations of some folks in this department who were used to just what you were talking about and thought this was going to be a way to pick up some monies they would have liked but for whatever reason didn't get. They've been disappointed. Next slide, please. Q: Can I have one last question on that? Briefer: Yeah. Q: If as you say the supplement comes along with the next budget.



Briefer: Roughly. Q: Sometime next year, early next calendar year. Briefer: It's hard for me to give you a predicted date at this time. Q: But if that were to come along with the next budget cycle, and taking into account the kind of deficit that might be part of it at that time, do you think that's going to put an enormous burden on the '06 budget? Briefer: I don't think so. Look, you have to go back to where the outlays are relative to the overall budget and relative to GDP and you're making certain assumptions. You're making assumptions about revenues. You're making assumptions about economic growth. It seems to me that you won't find two economists that will agree on those things. They congenitally don't agree. That's why they



become economists. Therefore, you give me a set of assumptions and I'll give you an answer on the impact on the deficit. The President has said he wants to cut the deficit in half over five years. That's based on a set of assumptions. Those assumptions come true, a supplemental's not going to be a problem. Anybody else? Can we move on? Q: That says you don't anticipate another supplemental in the current fiscal year. Briefer: In the calendar year. Q: But I think you've said you definitely will not -- Briefer: I know I'm not a president, but presidents aren't the only people who never say never. As we stand here now, I don't anticipate it. If



something happens on December 31st at 11:49 at night, what are you going to tell me? I'm trying to give you an honest answer. As I see it now, there isn't going to be one. Anticipate is just a more prudent way of saying what I said. Q: Can I take one more crack at -- I just want to make sure we understand. If you're going to submit a supplemental theoretically early next year around this time, it will take a few weeks, you're still going to have to be projecting your costs through October. Briefer: Sure. Q: So why is it okay to project that much but not another three months -- Briefer: Because I'd much rather be projecting costs sometime after July 1st when I have a pretty good idea of what's going on in Iraq than right now when



I have no idea what's going to go on in Iraq. Next slide, please. Military personnel. What you see there is pretty straightforward. Let me just tell you, we keep seeing these reports about the Secretary having added 30,000 troops yesterday or the day before. That's not the way it's worked. You have end strength which is what the Congress tells the department to have on the last day of the fiscal year in terms of people. Then you have emergency authorities which allows the Secretary to get more people called up to go on active duty. That's called actual strength. That's where we are. We need to understand that end strength is not necessarily relevant to an emergency situation which we are now in.



That's why the actual is actual. For some reason that constantly gets misunderstood. The budgeted levels do not include supplementals and reserve mobilization. Fiscal year '03 ended $44,000 above, and this is the January 1st number. It's going to fluctuate. Let me give you some more points before I move slides. We've obviously kept our word here. Several years ago we said we were going to go down. It was 18 percent in fiscal year '01, out of pocket expenses. That makes a significant difference to people who have to spend money out who don't necessarily have the highest incomes. Now it's gone down to zero as we promised. Recruiting and retention results are still very very good. There are some weaknesses in some states in the Army



Guard and we're looking into that. But Guard attrition rates are historically low right now, less than 20 percent. They might go up some. We're doing pretty well. Again, employment cost index plus a half percent, we believe that we are continuing to meet our obligations to our people. Next slide, please. You'll note it says managing demand. It doesn't say reducing stress or anything like that. The basic point is this. You've got a force that is about, as you just saw, nearly 1.4 million active. You've got 887, 000 selective reserve. Yet we keep hearing about problems maintaining 120,000-odd in Iraq. That's not a stress problem, that's a management problem. So we're doing a number of things to deal with it and I'll talk



about these on this slide and the next. Expanding capabilities is straightforward. We're restructuring our forces between active and reserve. The next slide will show that. New ways to achieve flexibility to retain military professional skills. We're going to need congressional help on that to really realize this initiative properly. Temporary authorities. What we have done in the past and continue to do is use Stop Loss. That's how the numbers go up. Now you're not going entirely eliminate Stop Loss because Stop Loss as it's properly intended is to ensure that just as a unit's about to deploy John or Jane Doe doesn't raise his or her hand and say “ Whoops, I'm ready to go, goodbye. I'm gone .” That doesn't do much for unit cohesion. So you're going to have Stop Loss.



The question is are you going to use Stop Loss in the kind of large, widespread way we're using it today? The answer is we don't want to. We're going to do something about that. That goes again to the new proposals of General Schoomaker. Military/civilian conversion. This is actually ongoing already. I'll give you a case in point. The DFAS, the Finance and Accounting system which is under the Comptroller had several hundred, approximately 300 uniformed Air Force personnel as part of its personnel chart. The Comptroller and the Secretary of the Air Force worked out an arrangement where all those folks moved back to the Air Force. Because we have the new National Security Personnel System which Congress enacted last year and this year we're going to start to implement to the tune of affecting about 300,000 people ultimately.



We will be able to hire civilians more quickly to replace those several hundred Air Force folks. We will not have to hire them on a one-for-one basis. So we will be much more efficient on the civilian side. Fewer people to do the job that more people were doing before. Meantime, all of a sudden you've got several hundred people back in the Air Force who can be retrained or recycled if they retire and others come in, to do missions that civilians can't do. This is going on right now in Fort Leavenworth as well, by the way. They're retraining, in terms of just retraining itself, the Army is retraining people to the military police function. That's another part of this. As we move to the next slide I'll talk about that. First I want to talk about reducing the need for a really involuntary reserve mobilization. Somebody volunteers,



that's fine in the first 15 days. But you don't want to call people up in the first 15 days if they don't want to go, so we want to reduce that. We want to limit involuntary reserve mobilization generally. We don't want people to be serving more than one year every six. Now in fact, there's been a lot of misconceptions about the use of reserves and the fact that reserves are constantly redeploying and so on. In fact if you go back to the Haiti operation, that's right after the Gulf War, 13.5 years, give or take, to now, and you look at how many people have deployed more than once, including perhaps more than once in OEF or OIF, it's about three percent of the reserves. That's it. Again, you've got this kind of imbalance here. Remember that great phrase, low density/high demand? This is what this is. It's low density/high demand for people.



So you've got certain folks -- military police, transportation, civil affairs, medical -- tremendous high demand, low density. Not enough of them. So what the Army's doing is phasing out artillery, air defense and other units, moving folks into these kinds of terribly needed positions. And they're doing the training right now. They've started. You can see the number of positions that are being affected -- rather a large number. Again, let me emphasize, this isn't just something for the future. This says you can see fiscal year '03, '04, this is ongoing. It's something we’ve started. Next slide, please. For those of you who are not



familiar with all the dates on BRAC -- Base Realignment and Closure -- here they come. Get your pencils out. No later than February 16, 2004, final selection criteria are published and transmitted to the Congress. Submitted with the budget itself is our force structure plan and our inventory of military installations. No later than the Ides of March -- those of you who don't remember Shakespeare, that's the 15th -- nominations for the BRAC Commission to the Senate. No later than the 16th of May, this is all this year, Secretary of Defense recommendations are transmitted for closure and realignment. No later than September 8, that goes to the Commission. The Commission transmits to the President their recommendations. No later than September 23rd, the President approves or disapproves, an up or down decision, the recommendations move on to the Commission. Then Congress has 45 legislative days,



that's not consecutive days, it's legislative days, to disapprove the recommendations in a joint resolution. If they don't disapprove -- double negative. If they don't do anything, these recommendations become law. So this is BRAC year. The other -- Q: 2005. Briefer: Yeah, 2005. The only thing that happens in 2004 are two things. February 16th this year and the '05 budget. The Ides of March is 2005. Stay tuned. Is that clear? Q: Yes. Briefer: Did I confuse anybody? No? Good. I cannot give you anything like that kind of precision for the second part.



We have started talking to folks since the middle of 2002. When I say folks, I mean other countries. Here you're talking about an overall shifting of our global posture. There are going to be countries that we might pull all our forces out of. There are going to be countries that we might pull some of our forces out of. There are going to be countries that we might not pull any forces out of. Then there will be other countries that we're going to move forces into. Maybe as forward operating locations, maybe as collocated operating bases, maybe as classic bases the way we're familiar with them. Those countries are a huge, broad spectrum. For instance, they include some countries in the former Soviet Bloc -- anything east of Germany today. So we've got a lot of different countries, a lot of different situations, a lot of different types of facilities that we might be thinking about. These all involve delicate negotiations. No way we can predict cost savings or anything



else except to tell you it's ongoing. I have to point out that as a result of the congressional restrictions against what's been called in the parlance BRAC-proofing -- [Laughter]. That is to say you cannot tip your hand regarding your intentions for any particular facility until the Commission has done its work. It will mean that some forces that might have come back to Iraq and gone somewhere in the United States because they weren't going to stay overseas, because we were going to close facilities overseas, will now have to stay overseas somewhere, say Germany, whatever, because we can't tip our hands as to where they will go. So you do have some kind of interconnection between the posture review and the footprint issue and BRAC. BRAC does kind of make it difficult to move your forces directly to where they ought to go if you don't want them to be overseas. We'll have to sort through that.



Next slide, please. Q: On that, you mentioned about resources and not really being able to project. Obviously that's the case. But when, is it fair to say, that the global posture review is finished, and do you wait for that to be finished to finish the BRAC? Briefer: I think we'll have to wait until the posture review is finished. We're going to consult with the Congress on that. We'll make our changes in conjunction with the '05 BRAC so that I would have thought, correct me if I'm wrong, that the first time we'll really have a good feel for that is '06. I don't know if you could do it sooner than '06 in terms of the global posture and the costs related to it. Staffer: FY06. The two are intertwined and they're going to have to --



Briefer: That’s right. Q: --be worked and balanced together. Briefer: You can't do them separately, is the point. Q: So this isn’t really so much a budget issue is what you're saying. Briefer: Right, but we want people to know where we're going, and we want people to know that there's a connection to the BRAC and the BRAC is calendar year '05, FY05. Q: Another BRAC question. You used the phrase BRAC-proofing. Each of the last few years there have been a number of members through the MilCon budget and otherwise who have done add-ons for the express purpose of trying to BRAC-proof their bases, to make their bases more attractive. Is the department going to be



any more active this year, any more outspoken about opposing those kinds of add-ons? Briefer: I think the first question is we'll have to look at whether the add-ons really are BRAC-proofing, and that's one for the lawyers. So we begin with the lawyers, and once they tell us in their wisdom what it is that's going on, then we'll probably be able to react to it. But as you can imagine, this is a highly technical issue. You've got to really see whether money that's being put into a particular facility can be justified under all circumstances or not. If a roof collapses you're not going to say well I'm not going to fix that roof because it's BRAC-proofing. But the problem is of course that many of the kinds of issues you're talking about are not as cut and dried as that one. So our first step would be our legal counsel.



Q: If you want to remove troops back from Germany now or in the near future, why do you have to wait until '06 to do this? Can't you move them to a place and then decide later if they need to move yet again? Briefer: No. I used Germany just as an example because we have troops there, so if you're moving them from Iraq, I mean in theory they could go anywhere. You could move them to Paris but I don't think we have a base there right now. So I was just using that as an example. The real point is this. If you move them to some facility in the United States aren't you by definition saying this facility is so important that you can't consider it for BRAC. That's the problem. Q: But one could argue that Fort Bragg is so important, because it's got troops there now.



Briefer: But all facilities have something going on now. That's what the realignment and closure is about. You look at what you have now. The Secretary of Defense has made very clear that we have in excess of 20 percent more facilities than we need. But everything's being used. That's why this process is so complex, because one could in theory justify the use of any facility. I believe it was the late Senator John Tower who said everybody supports base closures in somebody else's district. [ Laughter] So that's why we have the process we have. That's why you cannot simply move somebody to a given facility because you are in effect -- even if you aren't intentionally tipping your hand, people will interpret it as tipping your hand. Q: Are you prohibited by law from doing this, or is it a policy



decision? Briefer: No, the law says you should not -- Q: Should not or could not? Briefer: you should not. Therefore the lawyers have to tell you whether you would be violating the law if you moved. Q: How about military construction funds then? I mean that tips your hand too. Briefer: The same considerations. We're being very careful about that for the same reason. You're not going to stop all military construction because you have people who have to live and work in decent facilities. The question is how do you do that? How do you do that within the framework of the law? We've been very careful about how we're putting our



proposals together. Q: Is it 20 percent excess facilities or 20 percent excess capacity? Briefer: Capacity. Excuse me. I stand corrected. You're right. Q: Does that affect your rotation plan? Briefer: It affects our ability to deploy people back from places that we -- Q: [inaudible] Briefer: It makes it harder. Q: How is rotating in '05 different than rotating in '04 if you're fighting a war? I mean the global war on terrorism --



Briefer: The real issue is this. When you're going to bring people home, are you going to bring them directly home or are you going to bring them to some place overseas? If you are going to -- ideally if you had already decided you were going to reduce a presence in a given country, then you would really want to bring them directly home from Iraq. It's not that you can't rotate. It's that if you have people that are scheduled to come back home and you're not going to add to the number of people at a given facility or anything like that, it's going to be as usual, that's fine. The question is, suppose I wanted to instead of having force in Country X and I was going to move those forces in Iraq to Country X where they would be, I really wanted them not to go to Country X. I wanted them to come back to the United States. I can't do that. That's what I'm saying. Q: Do you have a ballpark figure of how much money you could save if



you were able to do that, bring them back? Briefer: I don't have one on the tip of my tongue. Except that we expect there will be some savings, by definition. If you're going to start closing down facilities overseas, you're going to save money. Q: Just to clarify, we're not -- Briefer: By the way, my colleagues can correct me if I've got this wrong. I don't think I do. But jump in, please. Q: We're not likely to see the global posture review recommendations until what point in the BRAC procedure? Briefer: All I'm saying is they have to be worked out in the context of



BRAC procedures. You've got this whole other issue of negotiating agreements with other countries. When the other countries reach agreements with you, they're not worrying about your BRAC procedures. I'm simply saying there are these two factors that affect how this is going to happen. One is the pace of negotiations, the other is BRAC. They're linked for us. They're not linked for the other countries. Q: I understand that. Is there any way that -- At what point will the department make it public what they would like to do in -- Briefer: I think the first thing the department would have to do, and I would really probably prefer that you address this to my brothers and sisters in policy, but it seems to me that the first thing the department would have to do is know where these people are going to or



coming from. In other words you'd have to have a sense of what countries are prepared either to take or release forces. I've got about 20 minutes. If you would like I'll move on. If you want me to just continue to answer questions, then we'll stop when I stop. All right. Missile Defense Agency. About a $1.5 billion more this year. And that has two parts to it. $900 mill

Hellenian (agitator) 07/06/04 02:15 AM


Rabbi Dov Zakheim (Jacob-Heim) it is. Excellent find NW! This links perfectly to the entire story, because who else had the authority to ground the airforce when the commercial airplanes were flying in? As it happened with Pearl Harbor (to throw the US into WW2), we have 9-11 to help the United States start a WW3. It reminds me as to how Germany was attacked in order to be pushed to begin WW2 in the first place. Zio-Jews on the work. But of course, like Germany, they don't intend to make the United States a world leader... but to destroy it. All these wars are done in order to weaken the US military so that it becomes ripe for slaughter.

"Wise is not the one that knows many, but the one that knows usefull", Diogenes "Great desires create great needs", Democritus





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I agree with your insights on this issue, my friend. Israel and her Zionist network staged 9/11 to enrage our nation into going into fruitless war so that China can whip an exhausted America one day, right?

Simon Wisenthal Exposed



Precicely!




Also, do you think that China is helping resistance elements in Afghanistan and Iraq, to further weaken our military for her future plan?




China acts as an external supervisor and orchestrator... because they just can't "blend in" in that area you know! The Japanese military made its appearence in Iraq (Japanese military??? I thought that after WW2 the US was Japan's military!...) but after understanding the stupidity they did, they vanished! (typical...) China as field operatives must stay out of it, except the appearence of several agents under the "journalist" profession... which seems to be very common. As it comes to further infiltration (terrorist groups, governments, military, population), the only ones that can fit amongst Semites, are Semite Zio-Jews. But the high orders do come from China. The others are handled in the supreme Zionist Lodge ±AOA of London (which is the one issuing the orders to the US government).

"Wise is not the one that knows many, but the one that knows usefull", Diogenes



"Great desires create great needs", Democritus



But in short... it does help the resistance in most cases. China has formed a sort of unofficial alliance with Islam (soon to be as official as with Russia).


cyte (extremist) 07/06/04 10:26 AM


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Time to indict, not an Arab, but a Jew! That'll be the day.

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The_Skunk (revolutionary) 07/06/04 10:37 AM


If you want to learn about the Pentagon flight Go here my son

RidinShotgun (revolutionary) 07/06/04 10:40 AM


TIME TO PUT THIS NAME AT THE FORE OF CHIEF SUSPECTS---and, without apology, here is a obviously Jewish/Zionist (Rothchild agent) man of authority, with the remote-control expertise (CEO of System Planning Corporation--aircraft remote control tech!) I'm willing to bet there are more than a few former soldiers and sailors who'd be happy to put legs to this story ... if they only HAD legs. Thanks to Dov and his Hawks, they no longer do.

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Alama (extremist) 07/06/04 10:49 AM


You truly are one sick puppy!

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Quote:

"In the context of 9/11 it also needs to be pointed out that Rabbi Dov Zakheim was Chief Executive Officer of System Planning Corporation's International Division until President George W. Bush appointed him Undersecretary of Defense and Comptroller of the Pentagon.

Bush has to GO!



He has turned our defenses over to a Rabbi Zionist! Is this Rabbi even an American?

........ ZIONISM IS THE PROBLEM ........ Israel - Squatter Nation! ........

Kudzu (Back to basics) 07/06/04 10:49 AM


THE BODY COUNT: Bush Administration Fall-Out

http://www.missouri.edu/~quinnl/news/bodies.html

"NEVER AGAIN" (unless you are Palestinian)



Welcome aboard the "lunatic fringe" train. By your last post you should be the conducter.



Now I see how you can post semi-lucdly over on some other threads. You get your lunatic "ya-ya's" out over here. You really have lost it, you know that?



Watch it!! They're gonna gitcha for S&M snuff porno. Nevermind that its so appropriate for what they've done.






You really have lost it, you know that? No, you have. Did I say anything about Dov being a Jew? No. I didn't have to. You read that right into what I said ... because you KNOW he got caught doing what zionist Jews do best and that scares the crap out of you. Its that old collective guilt thingy that you folks are so famous for promoting and it comes back to haunt you every time one of your own gets outed. You have taught us too well for your own good.




Well uh, gee, uh, the post was under the heading "RABBI" Dov Zakheim et all.....I guess even a dumb Jew like me could cyper out what YOU were getting at! Shazaam!



I didn't write the heading. I didn't ordain Dov. I didn't select him for this high office. I am not responsible for his misdeeds. I merely said this story should get legs because too many of our sons and daughters lost theirs due to the immoral acts of 'Dov and his Hawks'. You would dispute this fact? If this story is true, should it be silenced BECAUSE he is a Jew? Should he not be punished?




No. But if true it should NOT be highlighted BECAUSE he was Jew!! The fact that you miss this point speaks volumns.

Edited by Alama on 07/06/04 11:45 AM.



I'm sure you'd be screeching your lungs out if a Christian Minister got thousands of young IDF soldiers killed and maimed for life.






When it happens, my hypocritical friend, let me know. In the meantime, you've done enough damage to your already sullied reputation today. Perhaps it's time to slink back into you hole now!



When it happens, my hypocritical friend, let me know. It probably never will happen. That is the primary difference between zionist jews and everyone else. your already sullied reputation I didn't know this was a popularity contest ....




It is most certainly NOT a popularity contest. If it were I would not be one of the most "unpopular" posters here. Probably 90% or more always respond to me with vileness and crudity. It is not because I am a bad person but it is because i speak the truth and the truth hurts people who KNOW down deep inside them that they are posting lies and bigotry. So, NO, it is NOT a popularity contest at all. But that still does not mean one's reputation can not be hurt even in a den of vipers like this by continually spouting hypocritical and bogotted lies!

RidinShotgun (revolutionary) 07/06/04 12:03 PM


If it were I would not be one of the most "unpopular" posters here. ROFL! Well, at least your sense of humor is intact! a den of vipers Uh oh. You are taking Andrew Jackson's name in vain. Oh, and I do think he plagurized that line from someone else .... [*scratching my head, pondering who that might've been*].




JRadcliffe (Son of Liberty) 07/06/04 12:14 PM


Very good article. I haven't heard of this guy before. Could he be one of the string pullers behind the scenes?

“The best guide to the future is an understanding and a study of the past. When history is distorted, then any kind of rational, wise policies for the future become impossible." Mark Weber

Revisionist (tyro) 07/06/04 01:42 PM


There's a biography of Dov Zakheim on the defenselink website. Not sure if I should link to it. Just do a search on his name on google, and it'll come up. Any chance he's been giving Israel all the U.S. defense secrets? What I don't understand is how the U.S government, after the U.S.S Liberty incident and the selling of U.S. military secrets by Israel to China, still gives Israel billions of dollars every year. One would think if any government did that to another government, they'd be considered enemy #1. It's just beyond belief the extent to which the U.S. government has fallen under Zionist control. And it's sad that people don't realize this and blindly blame the Arabs for everything. Who benefited most from 9/11? The Arabs or Israel?

If exterminationists/believers didn't fear the truth, they wouldn't have called for censorship.

bobbySophistry (maverick) 07/06/04 06:41 PM


i have read the above posts with interest, while i agree that many "dual citizenship traitors" are suspect, one needs a little more substantive evidence to make serious charges. i know for a fact, that many LF posters here are quite diligent and meticulous researchers and voracious readers, which is commendable for so many reasons let alone for our US democracy now a laughable plutocracy cum despotism/fascism BUT we need much better evidence. this Zakheim guy could appear criminal for the obvious reasons that he F*cked the Pentagon Budget. I remember reading that he /Pentagon could not account for NOT BILLIONS but TRILLIONS of dollars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you imagine that ??? for that reason alone he could appear quite "criminal but innocent" vis a vie 911 if you catch my play on words/meaning clearly something is afoot as Holmes would say but evidence still needs to come in.

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Edited by bobbySophistry on 07/06/04 06:44 PM.

ruevin (insurgent) 07/06/04 07:10 PM


You should change your handle to lunatic!

NewsWatcher (Guardian of Truth) 07/06/04 07:12 PM


That is all you Zionist shills can do is to ridicule the posters here, because truth is damn sure not on yall's side.


ruevin (insurgent) 07/06/04 07:14 PM


And the "truth" the last poster had uncovered that Israel (aka Jews) were the real culprits of 911 is precisely WHERE, my conspiracy wacko friend?



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It sure appears he probably is. JRad, do you remeber the 60 Israelis arrested and held in jail right after 9/11? Could those have been the crew that carried out the 9/11 attack on orders from Zion?




Is that a threat? Is he somewhere bad?



Do you Jew mobbers send these folks who yall can't handle off to a bad place for re-education or wose?


Steelhead (maverick) 07/06/04 07:19 PM


I don't have the energy to read all the usual suspects here but has anybody mentioned his working for a company that makes the "remote control systems" for aircraft.



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If memory serves me right, BlueGrass posted an article a while back about how this man was running or either big in a company that did remote control aviation.


Steelhead (maverick) 07/06/04 07:21 PM


That seemed like a very interesting revelation if true.

Revisionist (tyro) 07/06/04 07:53 PM


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JRad, do you remeber the 60 Israelis arrested and held in jail right after 9/11?

I remember the Israelis dancing on top of a van. As for the 60 Israelis arrested, that's just for the public image, to "show" that Zionists do not control USA and that the Muslims and Israelis were being treated "equally" when it came to suspects. Where did those 60 Israelis go? Uhh, home? Where did the Muslims go? That's right, to Guantanamo bay. It was a show put on by the government. Do you think a government that shuts up to Israel selling its top military secrets to China and bombing the USS Liberty would NOT be controlled by Zionists? Please.




JRadcliffe (Son of Liberty) 07/06/04 08:59 PM


I don't know, but this much I do know -- Israel was a co-conspirator. Israel is an enemy of the US and those who support Israel are TRAITORS. Traitors deserve death!


henrykissinger (radical) 07/06/04 11:34 PM


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Rabbi Dov Zakheim is one of us the chosen. I resent the implications of dual loyalty and treason. He is my friend and let me assure you people Rabbi Zakheim is as trustworthy as myself Dr. Henry Kissinger. I categorically deny that any of my fellow chosen like Dr Wolfowitz and Rabbi Zakheim have dual loyalties. We all have only one loyalty. If the good Rabbi misplaced any money you all can rest assured that it was misplaced in Israel thus technically the money is not missing. The more I think about it little Alama is correct. The questions for Rabbi Zakheim are anti-semitic. Dr. K.

I am not a war criminal. Just because I never met a war I did'nt like does'nt make me a war criminal

Revisionist (tyro) 07/07/04 12:02 AM


Love the satire. =)


Revisionist (tyro) 07/07/04 12:10 AM


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I don't know, but this much I do know -- Israel was a co-conspirator.

A co-conspirator? With who? If Israel had a hand in 9/11, the co-conspirators would be the Zionist owned and run U.S. government. Americans need to wake the hell up and realize that their government is OWNED by Zionists. Justice should be done for all the lives lost for Zionism.




Quote:

JRad, do you remeber the 60 Israelis arrested and held in jail right after 9/11? Could those have been the crew that carried out the 9/11 attack on orders from Zion?

They certainly had a significant part in the whole case (stealing information, providing false information, sabotage, bomb planting etc). Those are still in jail and are not comming out anytime soon.




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There are many who say the Bush White House done 9/11 and such as the CIA done it. Hellenian, is Zion putting out that info to divert folks away from the true nature of Zion?


JRadcliffe (Son of Liberty) 07/07/04 05:59 AM




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A co-conspirator?

You went on to answer that question very well, but just so you understand, I used the word 'co-consiprator' on purpose, and they are co-consiprators with the US Government.




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Hellenian, is Zion putting out that info to divert folks away from the true nature of Zion?

There is a major psy op regarding this issue. Since the execution of 9-11 left many blank spots behind it, there has been much effort into letting out some information... with one key factor : "One lie is best hidden between two truths". The real fact though is that they would normally not do this kind of act. It was a desperate measure of acceleration of the "Armageddon" strategic sequence. This specific plan says that a major side of the world has to play the role of darkness and the other of light. As to who is who, it is a deeper issue. What I definitely know for a fact is that the role of the "Anti-Christ" is intended to be given to the Western Civilization as an eternal opponent to the Far East slave-type "Civilization". This comes to no surprise if someone takes into account the massive military campaigns the Far East had against the West in the long history in order to mix the populations in eastern and western Europe and create a status quo in Asia (Touranian & Mongolic hordes, Asian invasion in ancient Hellas etc). In order though for the so called "Anti-Christ" to appear, the Western World would have to perform horrible acts against the world. Since by its deep nature, this kind of Civilization is defensive and does not resort to atrocities and horrible acts, its people had to be forced to in it. This was achieved through major infiltration, which hears the name Sion (Zion) and took place in three major levels (in order of appearence): Religious, Economic & Political. The first controls the minds & hearts of people, the second controls their capabilities and the third controls their moves. The first two are required in order to achieve the third. Combinations of those levels have created the various herecies, organizations and cults. The mathematic formula that addressed the years of key events was initially targeted for the ultimate completion by the year 3,000AD. Several key factors though forced Sion-Sina to accelerate with huge steps in order to prematurely activate plan "Armageddon". Just compare the 20th century with the entire 2 milleniums... quite an advancement don't you think? The truth is now that the world is not fully "baked" for Sion's plans. So, information has been comming out and they try to do a mental counter-warfare in order to maintain the course of their plan. They are doing everything they can, so that the entire Western World obtains the name "Anti-Christ" and this comes for ALL of us who live in it. A friend of mine was watching a British documentary about the world, filmed in the 90ies (I don't remember when exactly) and broadcasted by the Hellenic Parliament TV channel. It spoke clearly in there that the new Messiah will come soon and would be announced through the internet... and *poof*... On March 23rd of 2004 Sun Myung Moon was crowned as the Messiah. Coincidence? There are no coincidences in the Universe!



Sion (Zion) is being extra provocative to begin and extend all the wars, so that we all "bear the mark". And once we are called the "dark ones" of the "Anti-Christ", guess who will play the role of the "Christ" and the "Saviour" of the planet!... You guessed well, SINA (China)!


bobbySophistry (maverick) 07/07/04 06:15 AM


Dear Doctor War Criminal, ahem i mean Nobel Peace Prize Winner, thank you for setting me straight. Sometimes, i forget that being 'un-brisked', i am simply an ugly bag of mostly water and oft times forget to cry out 'baaa, baaa'. Its good if the money was misplaced that it was found in israel as you say (a la two legs good, four legs bad). Since i did not have a brain, i will of course accept your word as faith and the final say in the matter. Its so good, we have people like you to think for us, so that my vacuum head can spend more time wondering about Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction, keeping up on the Ben-a-Fer rumours, and of course discussing the latest victims of Alien Anal Probing Attacks in the midwest. Whew! these important issues always keep me busy. Its good we have people like you to do the thinking about all that other unimportant stuff like our tax dollars, Gov'T/Defence Policy, Foreign Affairs and such.

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leo_lunar_tick (agitator) 07/07/04 07:21 AM


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I categorically deny that any of my fellow chosen like Dr Wolfowitz and Rabbi Zakheim have dual loyalties. We all have only one loyalty.

Thanx for the low down doc (punctuation omitted intentionally) :)) It occurs to me that you and your kibbutz bum buddies do indeed have a long standing reputation unsurpassed in the area of human endeavour called "integrity" ; i was wondering whether ,peradventure , you would be able to regale the heretofore gathered goyim and further bless us with your instruction on the noble zionist tradition of controlling the monies of alien nations in which you find yourself ...... some particular emphasis on their unimpeachable status as men of value and esteem , of principle and courage .......blah blah bah baah baaah !! ( have they all gone yet ??) thanx in advance for your insights on these and other matters As always (off my ~!@#$ rocker) , yours sincerely



Jacques DeM.

a fool cannot reason , a bigot will not and a coward dare not

leo_lunar_tick (agitator) 07/07/04 07:32 AM


It occurs to me that you and your kibbutz bum buddies do indeed have a long standing reputation unsurpassed in the area of human endeavour called "integrity" (you've behaved like right pricks since ....oh ...i dunno , when Noah was a boy ) ; i was wondering whether ,peradventure , you would be able to regale the heretofore gathered goyim and further bless us with your instruction on the noble zionist tradition of controlling the monies of alien nations in which you find yourself Poland , Germany , Spain , Austria , Russia ...... some particular emphasis on their unimpeachable (you just can't argue with facts) status as men of (no)value and (less)esteem , of (Zionists can't spell so this must be about $$ therefore we have lots of)principle and courage(my grandad used to use this word but no-one knows what it really means anymore , thats why we use it so often ) .......blah blah bah baah baaah !! ( have they all gone yet ??) thanx in advance for your insights on these and other matters As always (off my ~!@#$ rocker) , yours sincerely Jacques DeM.

a fool cannot reason , a bigot will not and a coward dare not



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Hellenian, do you think that this expose' of Rabbi Dov Zakheim is a powerful step in the right direction as far as exposing who was behind 9/11 is all about?




Definitely!

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I am glad to see that we are walking down the proper path. You know the Jews throw many false paths out and lure folks down them, so that they never find the truth.


MindFunk (rebel) 07/07/04 07:50 AM


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You're forgetting a few: Elliott Abrams (National Security Council) Richard Armitage (State Department) John Bolton (State Department) Douglas Feith (Defense Department) Fred Ikle (Defense Policy Board) Zalmay Khalilzad (White House) Peter Rodman (Defense Department) Paul Wolfowitz (Defense Department) David Wurmser (State Department) Richard Perle (Defense Policy Board Chair) Donald Rumsfeld (Secretary of Defense) Dick Cheney (Vice President) All of these guys signed the "Open Letter to the President' in Feb.'98 urging Clinton to take out Saddam. They are all members of PNAC or AEI, they all helped engineer 911. An absolute must read: The War in Iraq: Conceived in Israel

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Alama (extremist)




07/07/04 08:16 AM

Listen lunatic, as long as you keep posting back and forth with your numbnuts fellow wackos all is cool. Please try not to infect the normal world with your diseased mind though.



"Little alama"ould gladly kick your phony self-hating ass back to the hell that spawned it if he had the chance. Of that, you may rest assured, Dr. K.



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It is a shame that not many media alternative news and views outlets are picking up this Rabbi Dov Zakheim issue. Of course, this info has not been out but for maybe 2 weeks at the most, so it is still new.


Hellenian (agitator) 07/12/04 01:25 PM


Very true. There is one other issue though that we need to look into... a possible huge "terrorist" act that might be pulled off to ensure the permanent declaration of martial law in the United States.


Aeryn_Sun (revolutionary) 07/12/04 01:31 PM


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he probably had very little to do with technology of that sort - if that technology exists at all Remote-controlled aircraft technology has been around since the 1950s. The Rabbi's company no more has a lock on it than do any of the other dozen or so companies that are developing it ... including BOEING.



Whatever happened to the WTC HARD-DRIVE recoveries?

Edited by Aeryn_Sun on 07/12/04 01:31 PM.



The Rabbi's company no more has a lock on it...

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Zakheim is currently corporate vice president of the Systems Planning Corporation (SPC), a high-technology research, analysis, and manufacturing firm, and chief executive officer and president of SPC International, Inc.

Boeing didn't have a company vice president sitting in one of the most sensitive and powerful positions of government, did they?




ROTFLMFAO!!! Cluephone for RidinShotgun. SPCs PLANES weren't used on 9-11, were they? Hmmm .... whose was?




And, of course, the technology can't be used on anything but an SPC plane? Is that right?






Oh good, two more hours of "Who's da Jew". SPC doesn't make planes.




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The Jewish hand behind 9/11 is not gonna be poo-poo'ed away. It will be discussed, and hopefully the masses will see the hands of the Zionist Jews behind that horrifying attack.




There is already big talk in the media of the possibility that the November election might have to be cancelled due to something like that.




The Zionists behind 9-11 sat in the Office of Special Plans, etc. The Zionists behind 9-11 were CIA staffing the embassies which approved MULTI-ENTRY VISAs for the hijackers. The Zionists behind 9-11 appear to be successful in shutting up Sibel Edmonds.






There is already big talk in the media ... Didn't Tom Ridge announce it?




I wonder what the folks on the street are saying about this election canceling thing? I don't talk politics to the folks off the net.




Off the net -- people are ignoring it & are in complete denial.




I figured that they would. Now you see why I do not speak politics and other hot-button issues off this internet forum, do you not?


RidinShotgun



(revolutionary) 07/12/04 02:59 PM


SPCs PLANES .... SPC doesn't make planes. Who'd have guessed? You seemed convinced. "Who's da Jew". Its not my fault Reagan and Bush were so impressed with him. Just think, he coulda been a Catholic. Wouldn't make a lick of difference to me. He had access and opportunity.




It does tend to alienate friends, relatives, and family members. The mere mention of the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of children that our sanctions were responsible for murdering has caused some of my family members' heads to explode. Its a little hard to reconcile one's views on the "ragheads" with the facts of this premeditated holocaust.




As documented by Bamford, the Israel-firsters in the Office of Special Plans are the prime suspects as facilitators and advocates. But the buck stops in the Oval Office. Not a damn thing would have happened on 9/11 if Dubya had simply extended his safety concerns to the American public (rather than just his cabinet), as was his sworn duty. And while we're on the subject, not a damn thing would have happened on 9/11 if the FBI and CIA had done their job on Operation Bojinka in 1995; not a damn thing would have happened on 9/11 if the swinging dicks in the CIA weren't so effeminately envious of the FBI's John O'Neill; 9/11 would have never happened if the swinging dicks in the CIA weren't so scared about those dicks shriveling up into nothing in the presence of female analysts; 9/11 would have never happened had the CIA-staffed embassies NOT given the hijackers multi-entry VISAs; 9/11 would have never happened had there been 17 simple google searches on important dates in Arab/Persian/Muslim history (Russia had already identified 8.19.01 as the date -- the anniversary of the 1953 CIA coup of Iran; 8.19 was a Sunday in 2001 - more people flying/harder to take control of the plane; skeleton crews only in the 'major symbols of American power and finance'); 9/11 would have never happened if it wasn't already planned to happen by the CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. The plan was developed by Perle & Co. for Israel, and was rejected by Bibi.



The Rabbi's access that you reference was probably as compromised as was everyone else's once the Office of Special Plans got rolling.




P.S. In the 4 pages of discussion of the big bad zionists, the only mention of the real zionists behind 9/11 - THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS - has been by me in my posts. Funny how that is, eh?


Fletch (freedom fighter) 07/12/04 03:21 PM


ISRAEL WAS BEHIND FAKE EVIDENCE It is now official: Israeli spies fed fake evidence to US government through Jewish US Government officials! In the days after September 11, Mr Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, mounted an attempt to include Iraq in the war against terror. When the established agencies came up with nothing concrete to link Iraq and al-Qaida, the OSP was given the task of looking more carefully. ...The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise. "None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms. The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party. In 1996, he and Richard Perle - now an influential Pentagon figure - served as advisers to the then Likud leader, Binyamin Netanyahu. In a policy paper they wrote, entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, the two advisers said that Saddam would have to be destroyed, and Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran would have to be overthrown or destabilised, for Israel to be truly safe. The Israeli influence was revealed most clearly by a story floated by unnamed senior US officials in the American press, suggesting the reason that no banned weapons had been found in Iraq was that they had been smuggled into Syria. Intelligence sources say that the story came from the office of the Israeli prime minister.

P.C. libertarianism-- It allows a man to feel good about being a rebellious champion of freedom while safely conforming to society's enforced dogmas.





Bamford goes into great detail on what the OSP concocted -- and Israel ain't the only source of faulty intel ... ITALY has a hand in this too.




But the buck stops in the Oval Office. No, the buck stops wherever he takes HIS orders from. The office of the presidency has been a useless sop to voters for at least a hundred years. This is not to say he shouldn't take his lumps for being a stupid puppet. As for who all should be hung ... you've made a decent start with that list.




Cluephone - No one - not Lincoln, not T.R. Roosevelt, not FDR, not Eisenhower, not Kennedy, not Johnson, not Nixon, not Ford, not Carter, not Reagan, not Bush, not Clinton, not Bush Redux - not a single President has been successful in reigning in their corporate masters. We as a people will not reign them in either. We can only exercise the powers that we do have -- and that includes changing out their puppets. I've posted this before -- there are a multitude of ways to take the wheels off of those wagons. And whenever I do post that, I usually get the obligatory flurry of brainwashed responses accusing me of being a communist. How dare I attempt to enroll people in killing on the road the one who claims to be Buddha!!






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Israel is behind this war in Iraq. It is only to help the demented Zionists try and realizre their demented dream of Eretz Israel.


ansar (extremist) 07/14/04 08:39 PM


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No, the buck stops wherever he takes HIS orders from. The office of the presidency has been a useless sop to voters for at least a hundred years. This is not to say he shouldn't take his lumps for being a stupid puppet. ............................................................................ Cluephone - No one - not Lincoln, not T.R. Roosevelt, not FDR, not Eisenhower, not Kennedy, not Johnson, not Nixon, not Ford, not Carter, not Reagan, not Bush, not Clinton, not Bush Redux - not a single President has been successful in reigning in their corporate masters.

Very true and well said Ridin and Aeryn!

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This is a very good article that needs to be read by all concerned citizens.



This is totally insightful reading.




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Israel was behind this war in Iraq, and the media is down-playing the casualties now, in order to try and supress the awakening that folks are having that this is the Jew's war that is causing thier loved ones t die and be maimed. Do yall agree?


maxokist (radical) 07/21/04 12:28 AM


The evidence that he might be connected is that he worked at a company that does remote control aircraft steering technologies. Info's on another thread.



Also, do not forget that Zakheim done the biggest swindle in recent times in our naiton, with a mmulti-trillon dollar rip off of the Pentagon budget and a world of missing cutting-edge military hardware. You reckon those planes and tanks and helicopters and ground radar systems went to Israel?


maxokist (radical) 07/21/04 12:40 AM


I really don't think Israel could absorb 2.3 trillion in military spending. It's just too much equipment for such a small country. I think it was embezzlement and that probably Rummy has like 50 or 100 billion plus all the other bozos.



That's what can happen when you decouple currency and inherent value.

Gilgamesh (extremist) 07/21/04 01:46 AM


bro, u r on fire tonite.

u r like a sherman tank smashing thru the untruths

what is ur secret?

"In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there's available to an average citizen in America right now."--Merle Haggard



My secret is " I am in the zone" of mental powers. I AM IN THE ZONE. I am on fire and moving like a Ninja.




Israel is but one facet of the global Zionist Jewish network. Tel Aviv and New York City and Miami and London are big parts of this cabal as well.






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This is an article that needs to be read and discussed more and more by all concerned citizens. This may very well be the answer to the 9/11 question.




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Rabbi Dov Zakheim fits the role of the Mastermind of 9/11, more than any other person could possibly fit it. Do yal agree with me when I say that to yall?




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The Rabbi Dov Zakheim issue is one that needs to be discussed more and more. It is becoming more and more discussed, and that is a good sign.




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The Rabbi Dov Zakheim issue is one that needs to be discussed more and more. A mole on who's what, did you say?




NewsWatcher (Man of Vision) 08/28/04 04:27 PM


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Dov Zakheim seems to be one of the top Israeli firsters in our nation. He elft the Pentagon stealthily a while back. You reckon he went to Israel to avoid the spotlight?

The Truth Seeker



Nope. He's working for a company called Booz Allen.




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Yeah, i just now remembered reading that. I had to drink a lot of coffee to get alert when I woke up this afternoon. I am still getting over a hangover from Wednesday.

The Truth Seeker

NewsWatcher (Man of Vision)

Re: MASTERMIND OF 9/11! Rabbi Dov Zakheim: Under-sec of Defense



09/02/04 08:47 AM

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World Jewry is all one big financial scam machine, and they can probably take in big bucks like that and hide it away from the eyes of the folks who ohld it into account.

The Truth Seeker

Prevail (extremist) 09/02/04 09:35 AM


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Dov Zakheim seems to be one of the top Israeli firsters in our nation. He left the Pentagon stealthily a while back. You reckon he went to Israel to avoid the spotlight?

I think he left in hurry because of the FBI spy investigation. The spy investigation is about Jews controlling the Pentagon. Rabbi Dov Zakheim is a very Jewish name! He left because his Jew name looks suspicious to the public! People will justifiably think and ask “what is an Israeli rabbi doing so high up in the Pentagon? Pentagon # 2 – Jew! Pentagon # 3 – Jew! Pentagon # 4 – Jew rabbi! “FBI investigates Jew control of Pentagon!” American public says: “Gee – all those people are Jews – one is even a rabbi from Israel – what is going on here?” It is a better image - if the rabbi gets lost pronto!



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NewsWatcher (Man of Vision) 09/02/04 09:41 AM


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I totally agree with eveyr word you said there, my friend. A Jewish rabbi caught up in the probe would have really bad PR issues coming down on jewry.

The Truth Seeker

Rhonda (free-thinker) 09/02/04 10:11 AM


Ummm... don't forget Paris. You're right, this article is interesting and should be read by all. The dual citizens in our gov't is pretty frightening. They are guilty of treason just by being there. I say line'em up and shoot'em... before it's too late.

"Anti-semitism is caused by SEMITISM"

bobbySophistry (rebel) 09/02/04 12:12 PM


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abbi Dov Zakheim is a very Jewish name! He left because his Jew name looks suspicious to the public! People will justifiably think and ask “what is an Israeli rabbi doing so high up in the Pentagon? Pentagon # 2 – Jew! Pentagon # 3 – Jew! Pentagon # 4 – Jew rabbi! “FBI investigates Jew control of Pentagon!” American public says: “Gee – all those people are Jews – one is even a rabbi from Israel – what is going on here?”



It is a better image - if the rabbi gets lost pronto!

Agree 100%. In fact Zakheim may already have had hints that a probe into SPYING was already on going and thus he decided to leave

Larry Silverstein---> PULL IT. Larry Silverstein admits that WTC 7 was brought down by DEMOLITIONS Get Banned Videos/How to Get those Videos



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This is a very insightful article on the issue of 9/11, and who was behind it. Zakheim fits the mastermind position very well, since it is highly doubtful that Zion would have let a gentile mastermind their Jewish operation.

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This is a very good article. It is a very insightful look into a man that may very well have the mastermind of the 9/11 attack.

The Truth Seeker

shanksta (maverick) 10/08/04 03:04 AM


good article. i cant believe a rabbi is employed by the pentagon.

xenotropic



(insurgent) 10/08/04 06:38 AM


And he kashrut butchered the pentagon's accounting books!

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I cannot believe it either, but it happened. It is beyond insanity, and is total insanity, to hire a Rabbi to be the comptroller of the Pentagon.

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I would like for heretic to come read this article, and study up on the threads here about this Rabbi, and then still be able to keep saying Muslims done 9/11. Heretic used to speak the truth and say that Jews did it, but he has changed now. I wonder why.

The Truth Seeker

xenotropic (insurgent) 10/08/04 10:19 PM


I wonder why. I assume because he's a heretic.



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free_man (tyro) 11/01/04 09:00 AM


Dov S. Zakheim, a practicing Orthodox Jew, Zakheim was born in Brooklyn, into a Zionist family whose father numbered Menachem Begin among his closest friends and had grown up in the same small Polish town as Yitzhak Shamir. Zakheim was educated in a Jewish schools, attended Zionist summer camps, and was fluent in Hebrew. His son Reuven married Tamar Bendheim, daughter of religious businessman Jack Bendheim - a former deputy chairman of the Jewish lobby AIPAC anyone know who is father is? name, anything. tia p.s i never knew colin powell spoke yiddish, im suprised.

FugitiveInitiate (tenderfoot) 11/05/04 06:25 PM


Sorry to come in so late on this thread, good job on exposing Zakheim. Just in case you missed it, there's a very good write-up about Dov and connection to 9/11 here: Shadow Files: www.ConspiracyNewsNet.com/shadow.html scroll down the page

blueridge (neophyte) 11/07/04 02:51 PM


For video evidence on Silverstein "pulling" WTC7, I highly recommend the video/DVD "911 in Plane Site" at www.911inPlaneSite.com or



www.PoliceState21.com. The producers of these videos have come under harsh attack from the likes of Ruppert and OilEmpire for including these pieces as major parts of their presentation, as well as coming close to proving UAV remote control involvement (non Arab) in 9/11. Flag everyone on this link. I personally recommend, having no financial involvement with them, after I contacted them personally. Sincerely, Blueridge

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Webtripperdude (skeptic) 12/11/04 10:38 AM


Time for the FBI to grow some balls?



I hope Organized Jewry is shut down soon by law enforcement.

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Quote:

Dov S. Zakheim, a practicing Orthodox Jew, Zakheim was born in Brooklyn, into a Zionist family whose father numbered Menachem Begin among his closest friends and had grown up in the same small Polish town as Yitzhak Shamir. Zakheim was educated in a Jewish schools, attended Zionist summer camps, and was fluent in Hebrew. His son Reuven married Tamar Bendheim, daughter of religious businessman Jack Bendheim - a former deputy chairman of the Jewish lobby AIPAC

Dov says to his close friend the Israeli spy from AIPAC Jack Bendheim,hey Jack I would like to arrange the marriage of my son with your daughter so we can keep this spying in the family.Jack replies sure Dov,anything you want buddy and Reuven and Tamar lived happily ever after.

It's back in stock. Our distinctive Wandering Jew houseplant soap leaves are hand-dipped in a warm bath of moisturizing glycerin soap and scented with lavender.



I think you hit the nail on the head with that post.

ResearchGuy (skeptic) 12/18/04 07:29 PM


Quote:

I highly recommend the video/DVD "911 in Plane Site"

UGH. "Are we meticulous, sophisticated and responsible researchers and activists, or are we impulsive, gullible groupies? ...[T]he producers of this film may be operatives attempting to sabotage and derail the 9/11 visibility movement from within.... " The video asserts that there were "pods" on the undersides of the planes that hit the WTC, among other silliness. "[The inevitable] mainstream attack ... will pick out these blatant red-herrings and use them to blast the other good stuff out of the water, and thus, discredit the movie and the 9/11 skeptics community in one fell swoop. "Problem is, some of these hokey, amateur productions do this without even trying. Even if this film is (at very least) an honest effort, it's not nearly of a caliber for any serious 9/11 skeptic to support as representative of this movement, and I strongly advise 9/11 researchers and activists everywhere to use common sense and good judgement when recommending or presenting this material."



http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/baker1.html

Don't believe everything you think.

SourDove (agitator) 12/19/04 06:36 PM


Jeremy on the job. He was the first one to draw attention to the PullIt video after he saw it on PBS.

Gothika (nonconformist) 12/19/04 07:16 PM


http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=72877;title=APFN blueridge May FBI are leaving. Why? Sat Dec 18, 2004 03:54 "Other FBI executives have left in recent years for employers as diverse as the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton and the Catholic Church." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fbi13dec13,0,6541204.story?coll=la-home-headlines Booz Allen Hamilton is where Rabbi Dov Zakheim (i.e. chief 9/11 mastermind suspect) went to, along with ex-CIA chief Woolsey! This firm specialized in outsourced Pentagon analysis, and "war games" scenarios. The Mastermind Behind 911? http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1927 The Mastermind Behind 911? Stephen St. John – APFN June 10, Updated Dec 17, 2004 Updated with new link at foot of page With regard to Blueridge's reference to remote control of 9/11 flights, please check out System Planning Corporation of Alexandria, Virginia. www.sysplan.com System Planning Corporation designs, manufactures and distributes highly sophisticated technology that enables an operator to fly by remote control as many as eight different airborne vehicles at the same time from one position either on the ground or airborne. For those looking for an extraordinarily interesting hobby, please see photos and specs of this hardware (about the size of a small refrigerator)at



www.sysplan.com/Radar/CTS Just be sure your mom doesn't catch you causing havoc with the airlines. Also, System Planning Corporation markets the technology to take over the controls of an airborne vehicle already in flight. For example, the Flight Termination System technology could hijack hijackers and bring the plane down safely. The Flight Termination System can be used in conjunction with the CTS technology that can control up to 8 airborne vehicles simultaneously. see www.sysplan.com/Radar/FTS Unfortunately, these systems as of yet are not able to prevent lyrics such as "When you get caught between the moon and New York City"! The possibility of nefarious use of these brilliant technologies developed and deployed by Systems Planning Corporation certainly deserves careful consideration in any full and impartial investigation of what actually took place on 9/11. IS ZAKHEIM 'REMOTE CONTROLLED'...? *PIC* http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=53483 Posted By: FarSight3 Date: Tuesday, 3 August 2004, 8:40 a.m. In Response To: DOV ZAKHEIM-MASTERMIND OF 9-11? (tenavision) ..and see this 'marvel' from SPC (Zakheim was/is on the board...) http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/CTS%20 ...about a '...Command Transmitter System System Planning Corproation's Command Transmitter Systems (CTS) providing remote control and flight termination functions through a fully-redundant self-contained solid-state system.... And some more links on that gentle man: Pentagon Fraud Chief Dov Zakheim Goes to BoozAllen by URI DOWBENKO: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=70&contentid=1222 A REVIEW OF ZAKHEIM'S BOOK "FLIGHT OF THE LAVI - INSIDE A U.S.-ISRAELI CRISIS" (1996) about the construction of an Israeli produced fighter... http://www.democracyunbound.com/zakheim.html Booz Allen elects new vice president 18/05/2004 Booz Allen Hamilton’s Board has elected a former Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) and Chief Financial Officer of the Department of Defense as vice president of the firm. http://www.consultant-news.com/BAH.asp Jews brainwashed Bush? What a joke! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157661/posts



...and as another marvel a nice transcript of a 'presentation' of Special Defense Department Briefing with the Fiscal Year 2005 Budget (LOL)... http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20040202-0408.html War on Error, Part 6: "Zig-Zak-control" Far Sight 3 Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Dov Zakheim conducts a Pentagon press briefing.

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E_T (radical) 01/25/05 10:01 AM




When the truth is disclosed about 9/11 and these wars, they need to take that Rabbi SOB and all his Bolshevik Pentagon Cabal Cohorts and put them 82 stories high on a scaffold, light it on fire (extreme heat), and give those bastards the choice of burning or jumping to their deaths! Nothing less!

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RebelX (rebel) 03/03/05 10:07 AM


Sounds like a plan.





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US_Ace_Freely (free-thinker) 03/07/05 11:06 AM


bump for the TRUTH!



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America (freedom fighter) 06/17/05 04:50 PM


I am against the death penalty. Let them just go to Israel. Swimming of course, they would be too much of a danger to allow on a plane.

Six million reasons not to trust Israeli intelligence

Ground_Control (insurgent)




06/17/05 06:47 PM

Quote:

Israel and her Zionist network staged 9/11 to enrage our nation into going into fruitless war so that China can whip an exhausted America one day, right?

That about sums it up!

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Israel is just pure treacherous to our nation.

Ground_Control (insurgent) 06/17/05 07:15 PM


What frustrates me even more are the Amerikan sheeple.

"The Americans? Why, you spit in their faces and they think it's dew." - Krushchev



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The American people seem to be awakening about how the Iraq war was for Israel, and how Israel carried 9/11 out. People on the street have started discussing that in the past 2 weeks.

Ground_Control (insurgent) 06/29/05 07:03 PM




They can't sleep forever.

It amazes me that the same people so opposed to theocratic dictatorship in other nations are so intent on creating one right here. - M.Rivero



During the past 2 weeks, I have seen a GIANT sea change in the folks on the street. They are now openly discussing how Israel done 9/11.

ResearchGuy (maverick) 06/29/05 07:56 PM


What do you think could have caused that?




I have no clue.

ResearchGuy (maverick) 06/29/05 09:16 PM


OK ... how do you know that they are? Are you a hot-dog salesman? ;-)




I am a very outgoing person and I go to bars and listen to what they say.





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RebelX (extremist) 07/28/05 11:37 AM


Another candidate, in need of a bullet between the eyes.

Vhat? Me?

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E_T (freedom fighter) 07/28/05 01:20 PM


All of these traitors and their Shabbas Goy need to be rounded up before more harm is done.



Former Congressman, Paul Findley's CNI http://www.WhatReallyHappened.com http://www.AntiWar.com

Rhonda (rebel) 07/28/05 01:36 PM


Quote:

The American people seem to be awakening about how the Iraq war was for Israel, and how Israel carried 9/11 out.

They HAVE to see eventually... i mean, people at least like to think they think! There's the roof dancers as the towers collapsed, who were picked up later that day with MAPS of the WTC compound... There's the 60 or so israelis tourists detained after 9/11 for questioning and that's all been 'classified'... There were the Odigo emplyees who instant messaged about the WTC attacks BEFOREHAND... There were the israeli military that were detained and interrogated about the info they had on the 'hijackers' and were found to be part of an ongoing spy force within the US... There were the 120-some 'art students' that were discoved to be part of a spy ring offshoot of israeli intel that specialized in electronic surveilance and explosives. A taskforce that reportedly had been trying to infiltrate gov't buildings and bypass security across the country and had been caught with MAPS and floorplans... Do YOU remember thes stories? What happened to them? I remember the DEA issued some statements that were,of course, followed by vehement denial by jewsrael. What else? has jewsrael ever admitted to anything? NO A denial from jews is as good as full confession. People have to start waking up to the fact that they are not our friends.

Visit Auschwitz with a Jewish friend! http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DC/gcgvcole.html Or, read up on Ford's Dearborn Independent: http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/Ford/original/

Itisalmosttolate (rebel) 07/30/05 10:03 AM


the Truth at Last



FranklinPhilidel (rebel) 07/30/05 08:24 PM


What amazes me is the absolute stupidity of the Jews to keep trying to pull off their Terrorist things in the age of the Internet. Don't they know that the information goes around the world and is archived on hard media in seconds? God the Jews are stupid. Really insanely dumb. Good thread by the way.

This is FranklinPhilidelphia. Hate is a Human Right, Article 19 of the UN Articles. July 4th. Independence from the British. The Forster Flag was the first US Flag raised in Battle.



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Elefantstone (agitator) 07/30/05 09:01 PM


sunday mornin rebump

If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.



Good one Elefantstone! :)


FranklinPhilidel (rebel) 07/31/05 09:21 AM


Sunday morning Church Service bump. Mary is in the backseat having fun.

This is FranklinPhilidelphia. Hate is a Human Right, Article 19 of the UN Articles.



July 4th. Independence from the British. The Forster Flag was the first US Flag raised in Battle.

Elefantstone (agitator) 07/31/05 09:49 AM


Cookin the sunday dinner bump !

If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

Ground_Control (extremist) 08/01/05 07:31 PM


Why do you think Rivero has such a problem with Flt. 77 being ditched somewhere such as the ocean, as laconas has suggested or maybe never existed in the first place?




I never knew Mike had a problem with that theory. What does Mike think happened to Fl 77?



That it crashed into the Pentagon. Maybe it did.






It probably did. The Jews are trying to turn folks off to 9/11 research with missile, pod under plane nose, and hologram talk. You know that?



Yeah, that's obvious. The Barbara Olson phone call is total bullshit, though. What'd think of that?




Joe Vialls was one of the first to expose Olson's call as impossible to have happened. Did you know that?



I've given the link here a few times.




Ok, cool.



How about the 'flight of the bumble planes?' Or something like that. you remember that?






I never saw that. What was it about?



I don't really remember, thought you might.




Flight of the Bumble Planes "Go visit a bumblebee hive some time, and try to keep your eye on just one bee. You can't do it. You get confused. Think of the 9-11 jets as bumblebees. Matter of fact, you could even call Operation 911 Flight of the Bumble Planes. I've worked in cryptology and there are many ways of hiding the truth. Substitute information, omit information, scramble the information out of sequence, and add nonsense (random garbage). All four methods were used on the 9-11 incident. Let me lay out the clues and show you where they lead..."


ResearchGuy (radical) 08/01/05 08:15 PM


It's disinfo. http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/bumble.html






Yeah, thought it might be when it came out. It is an interesting theory, though.




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Ground_Control (agent provocateur) 01/26/06 01:04 PM


Google: Dov Zakheim 911


TheFetch (agitator) 01/26/06 01:08 PM


Why doesn't this guy get arrested and tortured until he admits he was the person who was the Master Mind of 9-11? That would be using Jewish techniques on a Jew to exact a far more more accurate version of the events. Torturing little boys at Abu Ghraib, and raping women in Iraq, is just the stuff of perverts acting under color of ZioNazi inspired authority. If torturers want to really refine their art, they need to practice on people who have actually something to tell.



Thanks.


Ground_Control (agent provocateur) 01/26/06 01:27 PM


You'd think even a small town detective would be asking critical questions about the good rabbi. A NYPD investigator definitely has a right to question him. Where are they?


TheFetch



(agitator) 01/26/06 01:47 PM


Heh - you would think that all those superior intellect Jews would connect such a simple dot! May they should call for a Congressional Investigation at least - since they own Congress and can have it give them anything they want, like the NIST Report and the 9-11 Commission. Seriously though - torturers need to focus their craft on those people who actually have information to give. If I were a torturer, I would be insulted to have to try to extract information from Aayrabs - knowing that the real juicy stuff was hidden in America's Jewish Zionist organisations. Just shows that you dont need a high school education to be a torturer in the Jewish ZioNazi cog.

Chewbacca (extremist) 01/26/06 02:50 PM


None of these links open up for me and nothing with the word Jew opens up for me on google.

http://stsimonoftrent.com/

Blackangel_jason (free-thinker) 02/14/06 02:36 AM


ooh, It seems that ur computer must have the jew virus. Very dangerous!

Chewbacca (extremist) 02/14/06 03:47 AM


Black angel Jason- why not just antichrist Jew?

http://stsimonoftrent.com/ Christians and Muslims- UNITE against the Jew now!



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RRBum (insurgent) 04/09/06 09:16 AM


" Not long before Rabbi Zakheim rose to power over the Pentagon's labyrinthine, bottomless accounts, he co-authored an article entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century" which was published by The Project for a New American Century in September 2000, exactly a year before 9/11; in this article, on page 51, it is stated that "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor"! rrb



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That is so true, then 9/11 happened. 9/11 was totally a Jewish supremacist operation.


RRBum (insurgent) 07/09/06 08:15 PM




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[Rabbi] Dov Zakheim. Not many Americans know who he is, but they ignore him at their own peril. If for no other reason, a dual Israeli-American citizen as Comptroller and Chief Financial Officer of the United States Dept. of Defense should raise some eyebrows. He was also President Bush's senior foreign policy advisor during the 2000 campaign. He was (is?) Corporate VP1 at System Planning Corporation, a major player in the "Homeland Security" industry. One of the products that SysPlan sells is the Command Transmitter System, a remote control system for planes, boats, missiles and other vehicles2 . It's highly customable and configurable to interface with an almost limitless number of vehicle types. The remote control theory of 9/11 looks a little better every day... _______________________ From Bluegrass' thread, "Dov Zakheim's Homeland Security biz and the remote control of aircraft" http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_members&Number=1092638&part=1 rrb

Citizens! Immediately report Thought Crimes to your nearest Homeland Security office!!! War is Peace! Ignorance is Strength! Celebrate Diversity!

BinkyClowner (agent provocateur) 07/16/06 11:20 AM


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Jeremiah 11:9 And the LORD said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. --King James Bible

BinkyClowner (agent provocateur) 07/29/06 07:23 PM


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Jeremiah 11:9 And the LORD said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. --King James Bible

Itisalmosttolate (insurgent) 07/29/06 07:34 PM


http://margotbworldnews.com/archive/2004December/Dec2/Dec6/jewsdominatemedia.html



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(freedom fighter) 08/05/06 05:53 PM


Whats up News?

http://stsimonoftrent.com/ Christians and Muslims- UNITE against EVIL now! I have already informed you of my intention to stalk and kill you. JJ Brougher



Not much. Been busy lately at work. Good to have a little free time this weekend.


Itisalmosttolate (insurgent) 08/30/06 05:43 PM


Today, 8-30-06 Aug, W said "A war we didn't start".

RRBum (extremist) 08/30/06 06:01 PM


And the talking heads on the zogmedia instruct their dittoheaded canon fodder that Hezbolah started the war (Holocaust) with Israel. Welcome to Wonderland, Alice! Alice: "It would be so nice if something made sense for a change.” Cheshire Cat: “We're all mad here.” rrb



“Our Neo-cons are neither new nor conservative. They are old as Babylon, and evil as Hell.” - Edward Abbey

BinkyClowner (freedom fighter) 09/04/06 02:16 AM


bump to the top

1Thes 2:15 The Jews.... who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: --King James Bible



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jjbrouwer (Son of Liberty) 09/07/06 11:34 AM


Don't talk to that freak.

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BinkyClowner Re: MASTERMIND OF 9/11! Rabbi Dov Zakheim: Under-sec of Defense



(freedom fighter) 12/04/06 10:02 PM

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BinkyClowner (freedom fighter) 12/05/06 08:13 PM


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"One thing I discovered is that George W. Bush is a devoted student of the Jewish Talmud, just as were Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin." --- Texe Marrs

billybudd (nonconformist) 12/06/06 01:27 PM


Quote:

I am on fire and moving like a Ninja.

that provokes a very funny visual. didn't know if this info has been posted; zackheim was associated w/ DOD starting summer '97.

Quote:

May 14, 1997... Secretary of Defense William Cohen announced today the establishment of a Task Force on Defense Reform... The reform task force will function under the auspices of John Hamre, the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)...and Dov Zakheim, corporate vice president and director, Center for Policy Planning, System Planning Corporation and chief executive officer, SPC International and former deputy under secretary of defense for planning and resources.



Duties of Task Force on Defense Reform To Include Consideration Of Acquisition Organizations and that means? the answer here? http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/congress/fy98.pdf

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Thanks for posting that insightful post.


niccolomitdonkey (agent provocateur) 12/07/06 01:45 PM


Bluegrass is now "ibid".

Speakeasy

E_T (Son of Liberty) 12/07/06 01:46 PM


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Thanks, Newsie... I missed that.

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12/07/06 01:47 PM

Your welcome.




He changed his handle?


Down_South (revolutionary) 12/07/06 01:47 PM


Yep, why is BlueBalls allowed to have 2 IDs?? Is he using both of them go game the ratings system???

niccolomitdonkey (agent provocateur) 12/07/06 01:48 PM


He probably just asked to have the other one closed. I've done the same.

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Down_South (revolutionary) 12/07/06 01:49 PM


Nope. That's not true. At least not according to the management I've talked to.



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Judson (revolutionary) 12/07/06 02:35 PM


The most likely suspects ...



Edited by Judson on 12/07/06 02:36 PM.



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Zakheim is a bionic Jew, it seems.




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E_T (Son of Liberty) 08/09/07 11:36 PM


It is just too mind boggling! I pray the day of reckoning is near.

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good to be back posting here some






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