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TABLE of CONTENTSGENERAL NATHANIEL WOODHULL'S DEATHBIRDS HAVE ANTICS TOOSOUTHOLD'S VERSATILE PHYSICIANGLORIOUS FOURTH IN 1809WOODSBURGH INDIAN MONUMENT ^ .

LETTERS FROM FORUM READERS

John TookerJulian Denton Smith

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Qeneral j^thankl IjOoodhull's 'T)eath'T'HE Revolutionary War,* the stirring events ofthe Battle of Long Island, andthe seven years of Britishoccupatio'i of the Island arenow so far back in the pastthat very little interest is dis-played in them except by thosewho have made history theirstudy. The hardships endured,the fierce passions aroused inthe breasts of patriots andTories alike, are all but for-gotten by generations livingamid comforts and conveni-ences that even the wealthydid not enjoy in those days.Today we can travel the lengthof Long Island in three or fourhours where it took as manydays in 1776, and we can com-municate with people fromone end of the Island to theother in a matter of minutes.When we understand those

differences we can appreciateto some extent the difficultiesexperienced by American offi-cers of the Revolution in car-rying out orders whenmounted couriers were theonly means of communicationbetween them.When the war be^^an, Col.

Nathaniel Woodhull of Masticwas President of The NewYork Provincial Congress,and being an experienced mil-itary man he left the presi-dential/ chair for the field,where he was made a Briga-dier-General. He seems tohave worked under a conflictof authcrity, taking ordersfrom both the ProvincialCongress and General Wash-ington.The purpose of this story is

to relate events in the life ofGen. Woodhull at that timewhich bring out one of thefinest traits in the characterof that native Long IslandGeneral, how he saved twoAmerican officers from thefate that he met with cour-age and devotion to the patriotcause.

During the Revolution, andfor many years after, the

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territory now known as theBorough of Brooklyn wasmade up of small villages andfarms often widely separatedfrom each other, and in oneof those villages, that of Bed-ford, lived a brave little Dutchfarmer named Lambert Suy-dam.The junction of three im-

portant roads in the center ofthe village gave to the vicinitythe name of Bedford Corners.Ihe Brooklyn and JamaicaRoad from Fulton Ferrypassed through the villageand continued east to Jamaica.The Clove Road, so named be-cause it passed through aclove or cleft in the hills, ransouth to Flatbush, and theCripplebush Road ran north-east from Bedford Corners toNewtown. A map of 1766-67shows Suydam's farm on thenorth side of the Brooklynand Jamaica Road and east ofthe Cripplebush Road.Lambert Suydam was cap-

tain of a cavalry troop calledthe Kings County Horse whichhad been organized in Bed-ford, and had two other Suy-dams on the roster, probably

relatives of the captain.Hendrick Suydam was clerkof the troop, and Jacob Suy-dam was a private. The short,compact, frame of Capt. Suy-dam did not make a very im-posing figure on horseback,but what he lacked as an im-pressive military man wasmore than made up by hiscourage and honesty.

His firey, resolute charac-ter that permitted no insultsto his dignity, or encroach-ments on what he consideredhis rights, would have de-lighted Petrus Stuyvesant ifhe had lived in his time. Capt.Suydam took great pride inmounting a big farm-horse,and at the head of his trooppatrolling the Clove Road toFlatbush, the Bedford Road toJamaica, or scouting alongthe Kings Highway to dis-cover signs of the enemyadvance.

General Washington wasanxious to get all the cattle inKings and Queens Countiesout of reach of the British,and assigned that task to Gen.Woodhull. Capt. Suydam withhis troop assisted Gen. Wood-hull in that foray and, leaving

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only one cow to a family, theygathered up all the others anddrove them to the HempsteadPlains where they had diffi-culty in finding water for somany. That raid did not makeany friends for the Generaland Captain among the Flat-lands and Jamaica farmers.One of Gen. WoodhuU's last

orders, issued while the Battleof Long Island was raging tothe westward, was to detachCapt. Suydam from guardduty at Jamaica and send himeastward, for he would notpermit any American officerto share the danger in whichhe found himself.

Capt. Suydam met Col. Pot-ter of the Suffolk County Mili-tia near Hempstead and thatofficer, yielding to the panicthat gripped so many at thattime, ordered Capt. Suydamand his men to leave theisland. Although he doubtedthe wisdom of the order, Capt.Suydam obeyed it, abandonedhis horses, and he and his mencrossed the [Sound to West-chester. By October they werein a destitute condition, andthe New York Provincial Con-gress, to which they had ap-pealed, granted them pay ason active service.

It is not known if Capt. Suy-dam acted as a spy for Gen-eral Washington, but the factthat he paid several visits toBedford while the Britishwere occupying his premisesleads one to suspect that hemay have done so. On one ofhis visits the British sur-rounded his house, butthrough the efforts of Mrs.Suydam he managed to eludethem and escape. After a yearof exile he signed the submis-sion and was permitted toreturn to his home. A fewyears later some of histroopers were captured by theBritish in New Jersey andbrought back to Long Islandas prisoners.The other American officer

saved by Gen. WoodhuU fromcapture and imprisonment wasCol. Joseph Robinson, ofScotch descent, and born atSt. Croix in the Danish West

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^irds \}\xxve ^Antics HSooIV/I ANY of us delight in^^'^ watching birds, in provid-ing food for them when neces-sary, and in making friendswith them. Bird antics oftenfascinate us and perhaps theretelling of some observationsof local bird behavior will re-call similar experiences to ourreaders.

Catbirds are friendly crea-tures and their black beadyeyes seldom let you out ofsight for long. They do notlike to bother with feedingstations would much rathercome right up ta the backdoor and wait for your per-sonal attention. With somecare and a bit of bird talk onyour part catbirds will fly toyour outstretched hand forraisins. They may have manymisgivings, entrances andexits, but finally will end upsitting on your fingers asthey go to work on the raisins.A Blue Jay in a single frugal

act broke two admonitions ofthe Bible. I saw one eat breadcrumbs until completely filled.He tried to hide a final crustfrom squirrels which are al-ways around. The jay draggeda dead oak leaf to the foodand covered the crust with theleaf. The Bible suggests weshould not lay up treasuresnor take much thought for themorrow, what we should eat!

I fully expect to be bird-handled on the head by en-raged terns. During theirnesting season they want noforeign element near theirnests. They become suspiciousof persons a good quarter of amile away. Their screamingand diving is more purposefulthe closer one approaches.Then the bombings commencewith more or less accuracy,and the shots improve withpractice. By the time thevisitor is within sight of theeggs or young the terns arebeside themselves and theirdivings terminate inches from

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one's hair. One day they willbecome mad enough to enda dive in a head-on collision.Have you ever noticed hovv

busy the gulls are on JonesBeach between the time thecrowds go home at the end ofthe day and the arrival of thetractor-trains to clear the re-fuse baskets? The gulls havefound the baskets containeatables of infinite variety.

They settle on and in the bas-kets clawing over the con-tents. Some birds have learn-ed to combine their weightand effort to tip over the bas-kets which facilitates thehunt for food. There is usuallyenough discarded menu inone basket to feed severalgulls.

Redwing Blackbirds are al-ways very much at home inplume grass. They appear todelight in clutching a caneand swaying in the breeze. Onstill days I have seen them

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speed into a brake and swayback and forth as long as thereis any pedulum-like responsein the cane.A Sparrow Hawk is almost

dainty in the way he comes torest on a pine tree. They likepines, especially the very tip-top,they are never "Satisfiedwich a lower place. The needlesof the top shoot inclineslightly to the sides leaving asort of open basket aroundthe leading bud. There is onlyone way for a bird to settleinto such a basket and that hto drop right in. The SparrowHawk does just that. He hov-ers above the basket, gradual-ly losing altitude and finallydrops in. If the tip-top is mov-ing in the wind, the hawkseems to become synchronizedwith the motion. Wheneverhe misses his aim, the needlesdo more than tickle!

During the fall migrationof loons the weaker and dis-abled frequently come ashoreand hitch themselves acrossthe beach and up to- the topof a first line dune. The tracksin the sand look as tho madeby a giant zipper. The loonsrest quietly all day and in thedusk take off by leaping di-rectly into the air from thedune top a take-off withoutbenefit of water. They usuallylet a person get near enoughto them to see their unusualfeet before becoming too ner-vous and complaining.One day last summer all the

birds in the neighborhoodseemed to gather in my back-yard ar.d set up an unearthlyclatter and commotion. Jayswere mixed with robins, vireosand sparrows, warblers and atanagerall yelling like crazy.Their attentions seemed di-rected under the grapevines.I found a two-foot gartersnake stretched beneath thevines waiting patiently forROTnething to distract thebirds from their attack onhim. TTie whole affair seemedthe rallying of aerial forcesagainst a common enemy.An easy vray to recognize a

Marsh Hawk is by its habit offlying beneath the horizon. Inits search for mice, frogs andso forth it holds so close to the

ground that it appears be-neath the eye level. MarshHawks are not overly accur-ate in pouncing upon a target.They do well to maintain a50-50 average as their reac-tions are all a bit slow.

Several years ago we had atotal eclipse of the sun. As themoon blotted out the lightour chickens went up on theirroosts. At the height of theweird, gray light a Whippoor-will announced himself ratherdoubtfully and discreetly. Itseemed he might be wonder-ing what in the world he wastalking about.No such thing as a code of

ethics exists among ourfeathered friends. Watch asea gull drop a clam on thesand or parkway to open it.He loses no time in descendingupon it and frequently getsthere a mere bird's lengthahead of another of his kindthat had swooped in for anunearned feed. Sometimes onewill yank the food out of an-other's mouth in midair.A Junco came into the

house last winter. In hisfright and frenzy to get out,he flew against window panesuntil he knocked himself al-most unconsc'ous. I pickedhim up and found his heartbeating at a great rate. Thatspeedy heart-beat is a normalcondition with birds, the sameas a body temperature of 105to 115 degrees is common andcustomary. I let the bird leavemy hand at the front doorand he did exactly as do somany crippled and iniuredbirds headed into a thic\blue spruce to hide. Birdsnever leave such protectionuntil completely able to carefor themselves.White seems to have an es-

pecial appeal to birds whenbuilding rests. A neighborhung out small pieces of rib-bon and cloth one spring. Thewhite pieces went immediate-ly into the nests and some-times colored pieces werenever carried away, particu-larly reds. Nests show piecesof newspaper, white feathers,white shells, white hair and

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A CTIVITY and versatility*^ packed the short forty-three-year life of FranklinTuthill, scion of Southold'sHenry Tuthill, progenitor ofthe numerous Tuthills andTuttles of Long Island. Hewas bom at Wading River in1822, the second son of Cap-tain Nathaniel Tuthill, mari-ner and shipbuilder, and Cla-rissa, the daughter of Nathan-iel and Martha Miller of MillerPlace.

When Franklin was fifteen,his parents moved to Green-port where the Captain estab-lished a shipyard at the footof Tuthill street, now Centralavenue, which he later sold toHiram Bishop. Franklin'sbrother Ellsworth became afish factory owner at the eastend. Another brother, GeorgeMiller Tuthill, became a prom-inent clergyman in Chicagoand still anc-ther brother,James Harvey Tuthill, servedas State Senator and forsome twenty years as Surro-gate of Suffolk County. Theirsister Sarah, a graduate of Mt.Holyoke, taught school atSouthold and at Farmington,Ct., and became an accom-plished artist.

Franklin Tuthill enteredAmherst College at the age offourteen, graduating fouryears later and in 1844 com-pleting a medical course atthe University of the City ofNew York. The same year hebegan practising at Southoldand two years later marriedEmma Harriet Horton, daugh-ter of Salter Storrs Hortonand Harriet Case Horton, Hor-ton, who died prior to the mar-riage of his daughter, hadserved Southold as post-master, librarian and car-penter. In the latter capacityin 1836 he had built a parson-age for the Old First Church.Dr. Tuthill succeeded his latefather-in-law as postmaster.

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In the fall of 1850 whenSouthold belatedly celebratedits bicentennial, among thesponsors of the occasion werethe local minister, Rev. GeorgeF. Wiswell; David PhilanderHorton, a budding musicteacher destined to gain re-nown in that field, and Dr.Tuthill. Among the toastsproposed at the celebrationwas one to "the medical facul-ty" of the community whichincluded besides young Tut-hill, Drs. Seth H. Tuthill, DavidVan Scoy and Ira Corwin.The singing on the program

was led by Dr. Tuthill's closefriend. Prof. Horton, whotaught vocal classes in thelocal Presbyterian lecturehall, known as the PrayerRoom, and called by theyounger set of that day theEel Pot because of its sugges-tive contour. It was the Pro-fessor who requested theyoung Doctor to stand besideone elderly, unmusical singerand to poke him in the ribseach time he emitted a dis-cord. According to EdwardG. Huntting, the old gentle-man, as a result of Dr. Tut-

hill's constant prodding, was"black and blue from hip totop-rib".

In 1851 the young physi-cian was nominated for Mem-ber of Assembly by theWhigs, at which the localnon-Whig weekly editorializedthat "We can say nothingagainst our friend, the Doctor,only that he is a Whig. Wecannot, however, inform ourWhig readers whether he be-longs to the Seward or Fill-more wing of his party". ButTuthill was elected and suc-ceeded to the Assembly seatof his wife's uncle, Silas Hor-ton of Hog Neck, Southold.At Albany the Doctor be-

came intimately associatedwith Henry J. Raymond, whohad been elected Assembly-man from the 9th Ward, Man-hattan, while employed on theeditorial staff of the NewYork Courier & Enquirer.When The New York Timesfirst appeared on September18, 1851, Raymond was itsfirst editor as well as part-owner. Later he becameSpeaker o-f the Assembly,Lieutenant Governor andCongressman.

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Southold's Old First Church (From pencil sketch by Cyril A. Lewis)

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TT must have been a day ofwild excitement at Setau-

ket'; fun for all boys, lig andlittle, starting with the joyfulpealing of Caroline Churchbell at sunrise. At 10 A.M.came the grand gathering ouMeeting He-use Green. Cap-tain James Smith, Captain ofArtillery, and Captain GeorgeHallock, Lieutenant for theoccasion, had seen that thebrass cannon was rolled ontothe Green from the gun-ho.isethere, which was its homeuntil, alas, years later it wasborrowed by some south sidevillage and never heard ofmore.

But on this day it cameforth in all its glory, andsmall boys loved to hear howit had been captured inmighty battle o-n the Heightsof Abraham, and how UncleSam had kindly loaned it tohis loyal people. Two casks ofcannon powder were providedand the noise was such that apoet. Captain Lewis Davis,some years later wrote:Whose each discharge theground made shake

And echoes boom o'er valeand hill,

The water dance in Satterly'slake,

The glass to crack in churchand mill.

Captain John Van Bruntled the militia; the orationwas delivered by John Wood-hull, and John R. Satterlyread the Declaration of Inde-pendence. The committee ofthree to plan the toasts to bedrunk that day consisted ofCaptain James Smith, WilliamJayne and my great-grand-father Thomas Strong. I haveno account of those toasts, butI think an old paper of toastsfor a Fourth of July celebra-tion would give some idea ofwhat the toasts of that timewere like. They certainlywere frank in giving theiropinions.

"The day We celebrate

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it delivered us from Britishtaxation, may it never be for-gotten."

"General Washington hisvirtues the salvation; his tri-umphs the boast; his princi-ples the guide; his name thewatchword of his country.""The President of the Uni-

ted States fallible fromnecessity : virtuous frOxHchoice."

"Governor State of Con-necticut his friends andfoes both know many betterand many worse men.""The departed heroes of

America although no sta-tues of trap or marble re-mind us of their forms, free-dom at home and respectabroad remind us of theirdeeds.""Our rulers of every grade

^-especially those who servetheir country for their coun-try's good."

"The Armya kind-heartedfriend but a relentless foe.""The Navy America's

pride and glory ; the youngestbut most favored child ofNeptune: the blaze of its starsshone conspicuous while thecross of Albion and the cres-cent of Algiers sunk beneaththe waves.""The union of the States-

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"Independent AgriculturalSocietymay the plowshareof public inquiry and the har-row of independent censurekeep grubworms of factionfrom the roots of our LibertyTree."As the people of Setauket

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"Longest Haired Lady" Excelled

Since writing the short sketchof "The Longest Haired Lady"(Nov. Forum) I have learned ofanother L. I. woman whose hairequalled or exceeded that of Mrs.Petty, in length. Recently a friend,Mrs. Halsey Dickenson of WaterMill, showed me a photo of anaunt with the exceptional longhair. I of course was surprised,having always thought Mrs. Pettywas "Long Island's One and Only"But I was pleased to learn thatL. I. can boast of two exceptionalwomen in that respect. I feel thatthe following information shouldbe given, to keep the recordstraight.

Fortunately I have been able tocontact the lady, my letter beingvery graciously answered by herdaughter whose letter follows:"In regard to biographic back-

ground of my mother, Mrs. Han-nah T. Moore living at Lyn Oaks,Morris Plains, N. J., she is thedaughter of the late Abel Corwinand Helen Woodhull of WadingRiver. She is a direct descendantof Elizabeth Hopkins who came tothis country on the Mayflower.

"On her mother's side, she is adirect descendant of GeneralWoodbuU of Revolutionary Warfame. Her grandfather, JoshuaWoodhull and his brothers builtthe famous Horn Tavern Inn wherethe stage coaches from New Yorkstopped years ago. On her father'sside she is a descendant of Mat-

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Longest Haired LadyContinued from page 130

thias Corwin, who was one of thefirst settlers of Southold L. I. in1640."Your statement about the

Sutherland Sisters, I am afraid isincorrect; there were seven sistersbom in Lock Port, N. Y., daugh-ters of Rev. Fletcher Sutherland.At the time my mother was travel-ing with the S'isters, her hair wasthe finest and longest ever knownand golden brown in color."Thank you for the copy of the

L. I. Forum which we found mostinteresting, and I hope the aboveinformation may be of help to you.

"Cora C. Hildebrant"I might add that in Sag Harbor

I was shown a strand of Mrs.Moore's auburn hair, notation onthe envelope reading: "6 ft. 5 in.Jan. 1, 1896."

So my Mrs. Petty seems to berelegated to second place.

Elizabeth Chase HawkinsSouthampton

Editor's Note: Perhaps otherForum readers know of otherLong Islanders of the past worthyof note. Barnum's greatest walker,Steven Talfchouse, was a MontaukIndian.

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Greenport Monument, 1890's

An inquiry in the April Forumas"to the identity of the monumentshown has brought the followingreplies which would seem to placethe locale at Greenport. The monu-ment, photographed back in the1890's by Marshall Woodman, lateof Amityville, bears the followinginscription: "1883. In Memory ofOur Fallen Heroes" below thenames of Henry M. Wiggins, Chat-ham Corwin and William S. E.Stratton.Writes Mrs. Josenh A. Wells of

Upper Montclair, N. J.: "I knowthat Chatham Crrwin was bom inGreenport and died in the CivilWar. Wiggins is also a Greenportname and I would expect that ihemonument is in a cemetery there.Chatham Cotwln was the youngestof the ten children of Mathias andMary Corwin and my husband'smother was one of his sisters."Writes Hilary Corwin, counselor

at law, of Huntington: "It is mythought that the photo is of theCivil War memorial on Broad streetin Greenport. * * * The part of thehouse shown on the light-ha'rlside of the picture was my birth-place, now tom down.

That was a fine picture of theRayncr house at Westhampton onthe May cover and an interesting

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Indies in 1742. He came toNew York in 1760 and mar-ried the daughter of JamesCebra of Jamaica, L. I., bywhom he had five children, alldaughters. When the Revolu-tionary War began he wasmade colonel of a regiment ofProvincial Militia under thecommand of Gen. Woodhull.

Col. Robinson spent thenight of August 27, 1776 atthe home of Mrs. Cebra, hiswife's mother, in Jamaica, andthe next day he mounted hishorse and accompanied Gen.Woodhull to the inn of In-crease Carpenter at EastJamaica (now Hollis)

. He leftthis inn shortly before Gen.Woodhull was captured.

Col. Robinson managed toget his family safely withinthe American lines at Wood-bury, Conn., and at the endof the war in 1783 he returnedto Jamaica, where he becameSurrogate of Queens Countyin 1787 holding that officeuntil his death on Sept. 17,1815. Joseph Robinson wasof good education and man-ners, and enjoyed the confi-dence of all who knew him asa man of integrity and apatriot.The inn of Increase Carpen-

ter was built like most Dutchinns of that period with a cen-ter hall leading from the frontto the back door, whichopered on an enclosure. Gen-eral Woodhull, seated in oneof the rooms during a heavythunder storm, failed to hearthe hoofbeats of approachingcavalry, and they were at thefront door before he realizedhis peril. He ran through thehall to the back door, fumbledwith the heavy wooden lock,and v/ith the troopers at hisheels reached his horse, tiedto the enclosure fence.

There is considerable con-fusion as to what followed,but when Gen. Woodhulloffered his sword in token ofsurrender an officer struckhim down. The General threv/up his haTid to cover his headand received several blows

from a broadsword, nearlysevering his arm. It is saidthat Capt. De Lancey, whocommanded the British troopsfinally restrained the officer.The wounded man was pickedup, mounted behind a trooper,and taken to the Jamaica tav-ern of Robert Hinchman whohad himself been wounded byBritish troopers taking himfor General Woodhull. Drs.Jacob Ogden and Daniel Min-ema of Jamaica came to thetavern to dress WoodhuU'swounds, but their offer wasrefused and a British surgeonattended him. Dr. Ogden wasespecially skilled and mighthave saved the patient.Miss Cebra, a sister of Col.

Robinson's wife, visited thesorely wounded man and re-

Woodhull's Church at South HavenStill Stands

tained his hat for many yearsas a cherished memento.When Woodhull told RobertHinchman's wife that hedreaded being left alone thatnight, she assured him to"have no anxiety on thatscore, General, for I will notsleep tonight."Some time during the night

he was removed to the stonechurch which stood in themiddle of the road at the headof the street now calledUnion Hall, and which wasused as a prison by the Brit-ish. On the morning ofAugust 20th he was taken toGravesend. Whitehead Hicks,Mayor of New York City from1766 to 1776, a prominentloyahst and resident o fJamaica, offered his carriagebut Sir Wilham Erskineordered him carried on a litter.

General Woodhull was firsttaken to the Dutch Church atNew Utrecht and from thereplaced aboard a filthy cattletransport in Gravesend Bay.Later he was removed to thehome of Nicassius DeSille andplaced on a cot beside one ofits spacious fireplaces. Itwas from here that he sentword to his wife Ruth, a sisterof the Signer William Floyd,to bring him what money andprovisions she could sparewhich he had her distributeamong his fellow prisoners.She remained with him untilhe died on September 20,1776, about three weeks afterhis capture. His body, minusthe wounded arm whose am-putation had failed to savehim, was prepared for burial

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by the British, after which,accompanied by the sorrow-ing- widow, it was driven theseventy miles to his home atMastic, arriving there on the23d.A resident of Islip later re-

ported having seen the mourn-ful procession pass his home.It is an accepted tradition thatRuth herself drove the teamof mules which drew thefarm-wagon bearing her hus-band's hallowed remains. Shewas accompanied by severalof the General's slaves. Wehave no record of the obse-quies, but interment was nodoubt in accordance with localcustom. The writer's fatheras late as 1876 built the coffinfor one of the TangierStoith's, his employer, laidthe body therein and dug andfilled the grave.

General Wo-odhuU's gravev^as marked by a rude field-stone until 1820 when his de-scendants erected the whitemarble headstone that nowmarks his last resting place.Ruth Woodhull survived herhusband 29 years, dying in1805.The inn of Increase Carpen-

ter, famous as a patriot meet-ing place long before the Gen-eral sought refuge there, wasstill standing well into the20th century. It was a favoritestonping place for farmers antheir way to and from citymarkets. The writer saw itmany times, but did not know

that it was the scene of Gen.WoodhuU's capture, until af-ter it was demoUshed.There are several memorials

at HoUis in the vicinity of thesite of the famous old inn,among them a cannon mount-ed on a granite base and suit-ably inscribed which stands ina schoolyard at 192d streetnorth of Jamaica Avenue. AState marker is on JamaicaAvenue at 196th Street, nearSt. Gabriel's Church, and theWoodhull Day School of St.Gabriel's Church stands onthe south side of WoodhullAvenue. On the Union Hallstreet corner of The Bank ofManhattan Building in Ja-maica is a bronze plaque indi-cating the site of the old stonechurch and its use as a prisonby the British during theRevolution.

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pieces by an explosion set off bypersons of warped mentality. Thenews from Tappan spread aroundthe countryside and many peoplewithin horse and buggy distancewent to see the wreckage.The place was about four miles

from my childhood summer homein Pearl River and we had one ofthe chunks of granite as a souvenirunder a whatnot in our parlor,rncidentally, Mary Tallmadge,sister of Majcr Benjamin Tall-madge, who had charge of MajorAndre during his imprisonment,married David Osborn of NewHaven and became my great-great-grandmother.

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Bird AnticsContinued from Page 126

white cloth. To a bird there issomething most attractiveabout white.

Birds seems to have un-limited power to provide eggs.As yoangsters we once re-moved all the eggs from arobin's nest except one. Wepromptly lost interest and didnot look in the nest again butwhen the young appeared,there were four baby robins.The classic account of suchprocedure credits a mo:herbird with laying 73 eggs in 71days as day after day an eggwas removed to leave only onei 1 the nest. The report recordsthe bird was bewildered andbafflei but maintained unin-terrupted production.The story is told of an ex-

periment to find how muchbirds respond to the magneticnorth and south lines. Sevenswallov/s were caught inBremen, Germany, and imme-diately flown by plane toLondon, England. A spot ofred paint was daubed on eachbird when released from thecage in London. The nextmorning five cf the sevenwere back at their nests inBremen. Figure that out!We call such bird behavior-

ism "antics." Could it be thenormal.

Fanny Bartlett Station

Please thank Mrs. Arnold Rat-tray for telling us (in the Maynumber) where Fanny Bartlettstation was and when. I alwaysthought Fanny was a person.

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A Majestic ChestnutThe photograph, shown here was

taken durieg the 1890's by the lateMarshall Woodman of Amityvillesomewhere on Long Island. We con-sulted George H. Peters, presidentof the L.L Horticultural Society,and author of "The Trees of LongIsland," who writes as follows:"At least eight good tree men

examined the photograph and allagree that it is quite definitely aChestnut (Cast.anea dentata). Mr.

Ed. Costich, manager of HicksNursery, Westbury, states that hepersonally knew of a Chestnut asbig as this one near Wyandanch.

"I am sorry Mr. Henry Hickscouldn't pinpoint the location ofthe tree but because of the manyred cedars in the background wefeel it may have stood in the Hunt-ington to Wading River area."

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Southold Physician

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As Assemblyman, Tuthillalso occasionally served asSpeaker, and upon completion01 his term took up residencein New York City, subse-quently locating on FranklinStreet, Brooklyn. In AugustusMaverick's book of 1870,"Henry J. Raymond and TheNew York Press", the authorstates that Dr. Tuthill"amused his leisure by writ-ing quaint papers on rural anddomestic topics for TheTimes" and that "the vein ofquiet humor and the uniformgood sense" of the Doctor'swritings especially attractedRaymond's attention.

'I'uthill finally accepted aposition in the office of TheTimes and remained in itsservice several years. Prof.Horton once stated that theunited efforts of Raymondand Tuthill "established TheNew York Times". In 1857 theDoctor was again elected tothe Assembly, this time fromthe 7th District of KingsCounty. Among the things headvocated was the registra-tion of vital statistics, asshown in a pamphlet on thesubject which he issued. Hewas also in demand as a pub-lic speaker on educationalsubjects.

In 1859 he and his familyjourneyed to California wherehis brother - in - law SalterStorrs Horton Jr. had locatedduring the Gold Rush. Thelatter was one of the groupfrom eastern Long Island whorounded Cape Horn enrouteto the West Coast on the

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In San Francisco Dr. Tut-hill assumed charge of theBulletin and later became itspart - owner and publisher.After several years, ill healthcompelled him to relinquishthese activities, but while re-siding in California he wrotea history of the state, the pre-face to which he completedjust prior to his death. Mrs.Tuthill's mother, while en-route for California in 1862,perished in the burning of thesteamer Golden Gate in SanFrancisco Bay on July 27thof that year.

In 1864 Dr. Tuthill spentsome time in southern Europeafter which he visited inBrooklyn where he died Aug-ust 27, 1864 at the age of onlyforty-three. Three weeks be-fore his death, while visitingSouthold, at the Old FirstChurch there, in the words ofProf. Horton, many friends"greeted him as one whomthey loved and honored."

His remains were interredin the cemetery adjoining thechurch, with Rev. EpherWhitaker and the Rev. GeorgeWiswell officiating. His widow

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later resided at Washingtonwith their only daughter whohad married William RedinWoodward, an attorney-at-law. In 1889 Mrs. Tuthillreturned to Southold and pur-chased the one time home ofJoseph Hull Goldsmith. Hereshe spent her final years,sharing the home with heryounger sister Jerusha. Thelatter, known as Aunt Rushieto local people, lived to be 92.

In the Southold cemeterystands a modest granite shaftmarking the last resting placeof Franklin Tuthill, physician,legislator, journalist, authorand postmaster. "His life,"wrote Prof. Horton in 1890,"might be studied with greatprofit by many youthfuljournalists of the presenttime", and added: "A brighter,more beloved and capable per-son never labored and dweltin Southold."

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Glorious Fourth

Continued from page 129

dependence read, how theirthoughts must have turned tothe tale their pastor, the

Rev. Zachariah Greene, hadoften told them. How hisbrigade with colors flying hadmarched from north erf Canalstreet in lower Manhattan to

the Battery and there fonnedin a hollow square with Gen-

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ing the General, the Declara-

tion was first read in public.

When the closing paragraphwas read there was a shout

from all the people. ''Unitedwe stand; divided we fajl. Wemust, we shall be free.' AndParson Greene, in describing

this event, would always add:

"Take care of the Union! Do

ro harm to the Union!So passed the Fourth of

July 1809 in Setauket,and

many a youngster went to bedthat night with his thoughts

full of cannon and the glory

of artillery and militia, butperhaps bits of the stately

Declaration of Independence

stayed in his mind, and tie

resolved to be a good citizen

of this Republic when he grewto manhood.My account of the day was

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