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Notes from Liederkranz 2016: Karen Kennedy Friday, November 4 5:00 - 6:30pm - Check In (Green House or your dorm) 6:30 - 6:40pm - Safety orientation by Menucha staff (Green House) 7:00 - 8:00pm - Dinner (2 volunteers) 8:15 - 9:30pm Kennedy Session 1 Saturday, November 5 8:00 - 9:00am - Breakfast (2 volunteers) 9:15 - 10:30am Reading Session (Jim Facilitates) 10:30-10:45am - break 10:45 – 11:45am Member-Led Session (Morna facilitates) 12:00 - 1:00pm - Lunch (2 volunteers) 1:15 - 2:45pm Kennedy Session 2 3:00 - 4:30pm - Business Meeting (members only) / Free Time (guests) 6:00 - 7:00pm - Dinner (2 volunteers) 7:15 - 9:15pm Kennedy Session 3 Sunday, November 6 8:00-9:00am - Breakfast (2 volunteers) 9:15-11:30am Kennedy Session 4 / Wrap Up 12:00 – 1:00pm - Lunch (2 volunteers) 8:10pm Introductions: Amber Schroeder, Angela Hjerdstedt, Bruce Browne, Solveig Holmquist, John Baker, David York, Giselle Wyers, Kristina Ploeger, Sara Boos, Courtney Rowley, Carrie Tenant, Jim Knox, Patrick McDonough, Adam Steele, Joan Conlon, Howard Meharg, Justin Raffa, Morna Edmundson, Christian Clark, Luke MacSween, Reginald Unterseher, Debbie Glaze, Anne Lyman, Gary Weidenaar, Tim Fitzpatrick Karen’s Session #1: Friday, Nov 4 8:15-8:30pm Rodney Eichenberger would visit Karen in Hawaii. They would video tape her teaching and go over it. Her master teacher during her Masters was a student of his. ***Flow: “When an individual’s ability to reach successive goals grows in accordance with the challenges presented by the activity.” ---Michael Cziksentmihaly

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NotesfromLiederkranz2016:KarenKennedy

Friday,November45:00-6:30pm-CheckIn(GreenHouseoryourdorm)6:30-6:40pm-SafetyorientationbyMenuchastaff(GreenHouse)7:00-8:00pm-Dinner(2volunteers)8:15-9:30pmKennedySession1Saturday,November58:00-9:00am-Breakfast(2volunteers)9:15-10:30amReadingSession(JimFacilitates)10:30-10:45am-break10:45–11:45amMember-LedSession(Mornafacilitates)12:00-1:00pm-Lunch(2volunteers)1:15-2:45pmKennedySession23:00-4:30pm-BusinessMeeting(membersonly)/FreeTime(guests)6:00-7:00pm-Dinner(2volunteers)7:15-9:15pmKennedySession3Sunday,November68:00-9:00am-Breakfast(2volunteers)9:15-11:30amKennedySession4/WrapUp12:00–1:00pm-Lunch(2volunteers)8:10pmIntroductions:AmberSchroeder,AngelaHjerdstedt,BruceBrowne,Solveig

Holmquist,JohnBaker,DavidYork,GiselleWyers,KristinaPloeger,SaraBoos,CourtneyRowley,CarrieTenant,JimKnox,PatrickMcDonough,AdamSteele,JoanConlon,HowardMeharg,JustinRaffa,MornaEdmundson,ChristianClark,LukeMacSween,ReginaldUnterseher,DebbieGlaze,AnneLyman,GaryWeidenaar,TimFitzpatrick

Karen’sSession#1:Friday,Nov48:15-8:30pm

RodneyEichenbergerwouldvisitKareninHawaii.Theywouldvideotapeherteachingandgooverit.HermasterteacherduringherMasterswasastudentofhis.

***Flow:“Whenanindividual’sabilitytoreachsuccessivegoalsgrowsinaccordancewiththechallengespresentedbytheactivity.”---MichaelCziksentmihaly

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Toachieveflow,sheusestheFibonaccisequenceforproportioninherrehearsals:

1min=warmupI1=warmupII2=warmupIII3=sightsingingexercise5=singa“known”piece8=introducenewmaterial13=workonpreviousmaterial21*=workonhardestpiece13min=Announcementsandalternateactivity8=Readandworkanotherpiece5=Workasmallsectionincontext3=Runasectionfromrehearsal2=Announcementreminder1=Dismissal1=Social541123581321345589

Thesandwich

• 2runthroughs• identifybiggestdisasterandfixit• runitagainandaddsomething

You’renottryingtofixeverythingatonce.Sandwichandmoveon.Fixonething.

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ReadingSessionPresentedbyHowardBalladetotheMoonbyDanielElderGIA,C-8071PresentedbyBruceVorspruchbyHugoDistlerDouble,double,toilandtroublebyJaakkoMäntyjärviPresentedbyAnneMatthewHarris'sShakespeareSongs,BookIV.PresentedbyJustinLookBackonTimewithKindlyEyesbyJosephGregorio,publishedbyAréteMusicImprintsPresentedbySolveigAsTorrentsinSummerbyEdwardElgarPresentedbyDavidAveMariabyVladimirVavilov(attributedtoGiulioCaccini),arr.forSSAchorusbyDavidYork.PresentedbyLukeTwoEasternPicturesbyGustavHolst,GalaxyMusicPresentedbyMornaVeni,VenibyJ.DavidMoorePublishedbyFreshAyreMusicFAM-0069-02PresentedbyAngelaHjerstadtBeStill,LookUpandListenbyMarkPattersonPresentedbyPatrickAnon.FortesidulciPresentedbyJoanSzymkoLightBeautyPeace,BeItThereforeResolved,River–newpublicationsfromJoanStuffIneedtolookupfromCarrie:SnowAngel–SarahQuartetw/celloSSAmulti-movement,AizubandaisanJoanConlin:ThreespokenchorusesfromDariusMilhaud’sMustaskJoanforthetitle

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LiederkranzHistoryTalk“Theimportanceisatossupbetweentheguestsandthefellowship.”BruceBrowneBruceenjoyedtheDaleWarlandyearverymuch.Also,AndrewParrottandSimonCarrington.Joan:“Itreallyistheimportanceofcomradery.”JudyBurnsandKatherineOlsenAndrewParrotttaughthertousetheoriginalclefs,thenmoveitdownaminorthird.CommentsaboutRobertSund…Whatagreateducator.Hehadastrongwarm-upsequencethatDebbieandDavidstilluse.Howard:VanceGeorgechangedvowelsforHoward.…usingavowelthatreflectsthevernacularwhenithelpstoaidwordstressMorna:CharlesBruffy“Dictionshouldbelikestagemake-up.It’stoomuchupclose,butitworksbetterfromfaraway.”AliceParker“Asacomposer,youshouldbelikeaneagleway,wayuphigh.You’relookingatthingsandgettingideas.But,youhavetokeepcircling.Onceyouland,youcan’tcomeback.Stayupthere,keepingcirclingaround,keeplooking.”David:MornaEdmundson-don’tstartyourwarm–upsinC.Recordthingsperiodically2or3atatimeSolveig:CharlesBruffy(re:Phoenixchoir)“Everybodysayswe’resogood.We’renot.Wejustdowhat’sonthepage.”Itgaveherdisciplinetoreallydowhat'sonthepage.Shesays,“TheAngelsareinthedetails.”Dotheresearch–understandit.itwasuseful.Reg–hisrecordingoftheRandallThompsonAlleluia.Bruffyistheonlyrecordingdoneatthemarkedtempo.Itisacompletelydifferentpiece.Morna–hewantedtobeabiologist…it’slikelookingateverythingunderthemicroscope.Anne–itmadeahugeimpactonher.Shestillthinksofhimeverytimeshebecomeshighlydetailoriented.Gary:MariaGuinand–theimportanceofrelationships,HirvoSurva–theimportanceofmusicforawholecountry,Bruffy–consonants–everymomentissoimportant,MikeScheibe–hisintensityandpassion,Simon–the‘the’morphingvowels.Liederkranzrecommitshimtothisartasanartform.Youcanjustseethateveryonejustwantstomakemusic.TowatchpeoplelikeBruce,HowardSwan…lifelonglearners.Garyfeelsthat“oneoftheseyearshe’llgetthehangofteachingJ.”BruceBrowne–voicefixerdoctoratOHSUOregonHealthandScienceUniversitywhowasintheWallStreetJournal.Thisdoctorworkswitholdervoices.Heissupposedtobeagreatcommunicator.Brucewouldliketoseehimthere.

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Lori–shelovestherepertoire.Shecomesfromasciencebent.ShelovedwhenVeljoTormiswashere.Shelovedlearningabouttherepertoire.Debbie-Hewassouniqueandsopowerful.Hehadaveryvisceralwayofgettingtothepowerfulpartsofhismusic.Howard–hewritesalotoflowchordsfortheTTBB.Howardaskedhimaboutthat…askedwhy…Veljo,“becauseIdo.”Lori–lovedthepiecewhereyouwerebreathinginwhileyouaresinging,thethingsthatcamefromthefolktradition,etc.Debbie–MortenLauridsen–shelovedhimteachingformthepiano…Luke:Enjoyscomingherebecauseitgiveshimawiderperspectivebecauseofthecompany.Hefeelslikehisstudentsbenefitfromhisconnectionswithpeoplehere–thatitgiveshimcredibilityandconfidence.Jim:FredStolzus–hisexampleswithRenaissancemusicmixingvoiceparts,octavedisplacement,shapingandchanginghelpedJimtofeelconfidentininterpreting.He’scarriedthatwithhim.Joan:CharlesBruffy–weransomething,thenhesaid,“Nowsingitwell.”Giselle:Hirvo–gotowhereyourhandsbounce,justletthemturnover–greatforyoungconductors.Thebreathingthing…themusclesinhisback.Morna:AnnHowardJones–scorestudy–theamountofdetailJoan:Flummerfelt–StravinskySymphonyofPsalms,whenthesopranosdescendaperfectfourth.It’ssooutofcontext.There’snothingelselikeit.IttaughtJoanaboutthespecificityrequiredforscorestudy.Jim:Flummerfelt–theyspent45minutesdiscussingwherethe‘t’ofundgoes…Debbie:theopportunitytositandeatdinnerandgetbackgroundtohelpusunderstandeachother.Flummerfelt–thatfourthissothemostdifficultintervalforadultchoirs.ACDAisgreat,butthisreallygivestimefordepth.

Karen’sSession#2Sat,Nov51:15-2:45pm

IdolWorship:AmericanPopStarsandTheChoralClassroomPhysicality“GrowlingAboutTown”BrittneySpearsandtheVocalFry+Scoophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4

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Howdowemitigateeverythingtheyarelearningfromtheirpopidolsandteachthechoralart?HyoidBoneThyroidCartilageCricoidCartilageArytenoidCartilagesEpiglottis

CricothyroidLigament–helpsuschangepitch

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The ligaments of the larynx. Antero-lateral

view.

VocalFold

• SquamousEpithelium• SuperficialLayer• IntermediateLayer• DeepLayer

Illustration of vocal fold layers (credit: Alexander Sevy, M.D.)

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Nodules:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K83C68jJ-awOperaSingerScopevs.‘AverageJane’ScopeTheextrinsicmusculatureismuchmoreactiveinchangingpitchintheAverageJane.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPMEA-pV2q8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Wdf-RwLcs&list=PLOaShb-FE80jp0_i8cFb5EVbGwTRo-Ex2Whataretheylisteningto?FryGrowlGirls–Adelle…nowithasmovedfromonsetintothemiddleofpitch…“WhenWeWereYoung”byAdellehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDWKuo3gXMQ…droppingoutyoursupportandputtingfryinBoys–“Shake”byPitbullandCo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ9SioGG0BQFryallthetime–noCricothyroidactionatall…nopitch,reallyHowdowegetridofthat?PutaconsonantinfrontofitIs[a]therightvowel?No-usethesmallest[i]ASpektorattheFeasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62rfWxs6a8&list=PL8B027362379D8463breathytotheextreme…whatdowedoforher?[i]exacerbatestheproblemWeneedalongerexerciseandadifferentvowel.Chooseyourantidote:

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“HoHey”Lumineers…Technique:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4“OldYeller”–gethimtoaccess[i]inhisfalsettoandbringitdown.Thendownandbackupagain–cricothyroidstretch.Thenwelookedatanodule.Shecalledit“amalformationoftheepitheliallayer.”Ilikedthatterminology.Whenthingsgoreally,reallywronginthere…OneofthemajorimpedimentstocricothyroidstretchKylieMinogue(sp?)–speechlevelthroughautotunewithvocalfryWhatforher?Giselle–putheronastraw,thenthroughthe[u]topdownexerciseKaren–[i]topdown…theonenotersmustdotopdown…theyaren’tengagingtheirfacemusclesliketheReginaSpektors…usethebright,smallvowels,[i]andumlautedvowelsGlottalonsetproblems,theycan’tapproximatewithoutapop

LordeorLady?Wackymovingthestructuresatallthetimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc-studiocompressed/autotunehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjXvOPSjprk-can’tsingintunethatway…RoyalTreatment–liveperformanceofLorde…shecan’ttunewithoutmassivejawtensionbringingthejawforward.

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Thesepeopleneedopenvowels[ ]CarrieUnderwood–hastohaveauniquesound…studioversionvsliveHeaven--masteredbyCarrieUnderwood(thatcanoodlesound–it’swackadoodlingaround)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2YtXLZhH8Heaven--liveonAmericanIdolsomanyvocalproblemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBP20450bDEWhatyouhearinyourheadisnotreal.Whattheythinktheyaredoingisverydifferentthanwhatishappening.WhichGovernessScaresYouMore?Julievs.CarrieWereallyneedtohearourselvesonplayback…Rihanna–massiveholdingwithasubsequentcompletedropinsubglottalpressuretothepointwherethereisnopitchcenter.GREATnewsoundsforguys:

1. JasonDerula–“Wanttowantme”…falsettohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rClUOdS5Zyw

2. JustinTimberlake(Trollstune)Can’tstopthefeeling…greatnegotiatingthepassaggiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru0K8uYEZWw

Girls

1. Beyonce2. Gaga3. Sia

OtherMitigatingFactors–lookfordrugissues

• Advil(hemmorage)• Asprin(hemmorage)• Allegra(hemmorage)• Benadryl(dryingeffect)• Claritin(dryingandlaryngitis)• Zyrtec(dryingeffect)• Atrovent(Laryngitis,voicechange)• Advair(Laryngitis,voicechange)• Prozac,Zoloft,etc.(dryingeffect)

• BuSparWellbutrin--noeffect

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Karen’sSession#3

Sat,Nov57:15-9:15pm“Popular”byDemandArethemethodsweuserelevant?Theysingsemi-crunchyorpop-ishsoeasily.Classicaltonalityseemstobemoredifficultforthem.Whatistonality?Whatdoesitmean?Weareverysmugaboutsolfege…“Hungary”forchange“Thefolksongsofachild’sownlinguisticheritageconstituteamusical“MotherTongue,”andshouldthereforebethevehicleforallearlyinstruction.”Kodaly“Backinmyday”I-vi-IV-V-IBaroque-Classical-Romantic…stillhereAnneLymanbroughtup“hooktheory.com”youcanlookupallthechordprogressions.The“Authorities”–KeithUrbanJenniferLopezandHarryConnickJr.video…JLo,“Youknowtoomuch”toHarryConnick…yarfTheKeytotheKey…Underoath(heavymetal)–thereisn’tone

AMajor,yetMinorissue…Major:CarlyRaeJepson’s“CallMeMaybe”…wehaveshifted‘do’anditisoftennotharmonizedwith‘do’https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAicJoplinvsJepsen–ScottBradley’sPostModernJukeboxreharmonizedCarlyRaeJepson’s“CallMeMaybe”touse20’sharmonyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5meWI3iX1sEAdamLevine“LockedAway”Youcantotallysolfegeit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GUm5g8SG4oPitbull–“I’mafreak”‘do’to‘do’cricothyroidstretch,falsetto,andoctave!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUiVIPgJA0o

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WhyYouGottaBeSoRude–MarryThatGirl,byMagic!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTyE6WY1LlkMinor:KatyPerry,DarkHorse,AlbumPrismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSOMA3QBU0SelenaGomez,Come&GetIthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-D1EB74Ckg“Rulesare,thereain’tnorules.”Kenickie,Grease

1. Top40songs2. Ubiquitous3. Usethe“hook”4. Timingiseverything

Culture–whatarethechallengesfacingusaseducators.Notjustsexuality,butgendersaswell.Discussion

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Karen’sSession#4Sun,Nov69:15-11:30am

Problemswehave…howdowefixthemHotOatmeal…breatheinmakingthespaceawayfromtheoatmeal…singupandoverthatspaceInvertedMegaphone–bigontheinside,smallontheoutsideHotOatmealthroughtheinvertedmegaphoneWhatdoyoudowiththeoverachievers?“Thankyouforyourhelpfultone.Backoffandletyoursectionfigureitout.Letmemixthesound.Don’thelpmesomuch.Leavememyjobsecurity.”“Alwayshaveagesture.Whateverwearetalkingabout,theremustbeagesture.Thenitmustbetiedtomyconducting.Iwilldoanythingonstage.Itwillallbebehindmybody–theaudiencedoesn’tneedtoknowwhat’sgoingon.I’mRodneyEichenberger-ite.InRodWeTrust.Itwillallbeatmycore.”DiscussionofOrchestralvsChoralConductingAnne:Intentioniswhatdrivesgreatconducting.Whatdotheyreallyneedfromus?Wearetooselfimportant.Thebesttechnicianofthebaton–PaulRardinatTempleUniversityhttps://www.temple.edu/boyer/about/people/paulrardin.aspFacetoFacewithOrchestraandChorus:AHandbookforChoralConductorshttps://smile.amazon.com/Face-Orchestra-Chorus-Handbook-Conductors-ebook/dp/B001U0PFAO/ref=smi_www_rco2_go_smi_g2563698942?_encoding=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&ie=UTF8BalladetotheMoon–DanielElderShe’salwayslookingforopportunitiestomoveinsidealine.Thishasalotofthat.Makespaceinsidethebeat.BuildingaSandwich8minuteslot…wereaditinthe5minpreviously-readpgs1-6tempoIpg5–stretchandpull,spaceandmovementwithintheline-perform

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Howsheaddressesvibrato–“Howsimplycanyousingthis?”Horizontalsweeping/crossinginfrontofyourbody–thisstraightensthetonesignificantlyMissAmericasashacrossthebodyisthebestwaytohelpsoprano’swiththeirhighnotes.pulltheMissAmericasash…don’tfloatoverthetop.Thestream(notemphasizingthewordbecausethevowelgoesoutofshape)…shecallsit“trackingtheresonance”TheJourneyofaConductor

• Unconsciouslyincompetent• Consciouslyincompetent• Consciouslycompetent• Unconsciouslycompetent

SexyAnvilforthebeginningoftheVerdiRequiem…stolenfromastudent…perfectforthebeginningoftheDiesIrae…Everythingwearedoingarethingsthatweuseonthestreeteveryday…theonlyprescriptionisthebeatpatternRegbroughtup…gesturecanmeandifferentthingstodifferentpeople…acatwaggingtailmeanssomethingverydifferentthanadogwaggingitstail…REgwastalkingabout:https://www.soylent.com/?utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Search-Brand-Generic-Geo_US-BM-GP&utm_term=soylent&utm_content=139798215802&gclid=Cj0KEQjwqfvABRC6gJ3T_4mwspoBEiQAyoQPkdjD_IbxksRcem6hP5ieG9RAou8GozoUm5YOK1oYoPQaAnrk8P8HAQHowdoweliveourlives?Whenwedefinewhatasuccessfulcareerlookslike…weassumeasuccessfulconductorisbusy24hoursaday.Allhermentorshad45jobs,wereontheroadoratschool24hoursaday.Shepatternedherlifeafterthatandherselfworthwastiedupinthat.Itledtolargephysicalproblems.Shehassincehadtoredesignherlife.

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So,yougetyourDCA…youhaveyourfull-timejob,yourchurchjob,yoursymphonygig,etc.Burnoutisarealthing.TheMayoClinichasdefineditasarealthing.Theremustbebalanceandtheremustbeagoodlife.Mentorshipandguidance:92%assignedamentorinthe1styearstayed.After??amountoftime(Ithinkitwas10years),86%stayifthey’vehadamentorAfterthesameamountoftime,71%stayiftheydon’thaveamentorNextyear,Brucethinksthatweshouldsingaperformanceorinformance.HeremarkedaboutthequalityofthesoundoftheLiederkranzmembersasachoir.Hewantsustoaskthenextcliniciantoconductusforsomethinglikethat.