Let’s Talk Let’s Talk Education in the U.S.AEducation in the U.S.A

Recruit in CanadaRecruit in CanadaCounselor WorkshopCounselor WorkshopSeptember 28, 2007September 28, 2007

PresentersPresenters

Jim Crawley, Associate Director for Jim Crawley, Associate Director for International Recruitment - Grand International Recruitment - Grand Valley State UniversityValley State University

Jerry Dueweke, Sr. Assistant Director Jerry Dueweke, Sr. Assistant Director of Admissions – Butler Universityof Admissions – Butler University

Barry Kelland – Canadian Admissions Barry Kelland – Canadian Admissions Representative – Northwood Representative – Northwood UniversityUniversity

Objectives and GoalsObjectives and Goals

Helping the student with the college Helping the student with the college searchsearch

To familiarize you with the To familiarize you with the components of an application to a U.S. components of an application to a U.S. universityuniversity

To talk through the application To talk through the application processprocess

To familiarize you with the athletic To familiarize you with the athletic recruiting and the NCAA processrecruiting and the NCAA process

Signs from Around the WorldSigns from Around the World In a Zurich hotelIn a Zurich hotel

• Because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the Because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex in the bedroom, the lobby should be used opposite sex in the bedroom, the lobby should be used for this purposefor this purpose

On the menu of a Swiss restaurantOn the menu of a Swiss restaurant• Our wines leave you nothing to hope forOur wines leave you nothing to hope for

In a Bangkok dry cleanersIn a Bangkok dry cleaners• Drop your trousers here for best resultsDrop your trousers here for best results

In a Norwegian cocktail barIn a Norwegian cocktail bar• Ladies are requested to not have children in the barLadies are requested to not have children in the bar

Outside a Hong Kong tailor shopOutside a Hong Kong tailor shop• Ladies may have a fit upstairsLadies may have a fit upstairs

The “Search”The “Search”

The guidebooksThe guidebooks The “rankings”The “rankings” The web sitesThe web sites College fairsCollege fairs College visitsCollege visits

GuidebooksGuidebooks

Good source for Good source for factual informationfactual information

Usually used after Usually used after list has been list has been establishedestablished

Much of the basic Much of the basic data can also be data can also be found on web sitesfound on web sites

The infamous “rankings”The infamous “rankings”

First and foremost, there are no official First and foremost, there are no official rankings in the U.S…..only magazines rankings in the U.S…..only magazines that do their own rankings..i.e….that do their own rankings..i.e….

U.S. News & World Report – America’s U.S. News & World Report – America’s Best Colleges Best Colleges

Money Magazine – Best Buys Money Magazine – Best Buys Princeton Review Princeton Review

– – 366 Best Colleges 366 Best Colleges

The Web SitesThe Web Sites

www.petersons.comwww.petersons.com www.studyusa.comwww.studyusa.com www.collegeview.comwww.collegeview.com www.princetonreview.comwww.princetonreview.com http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/

                       

College FairsCollege Fairs Encourage attendanceEncourage attendance Encourage Encourage

students/parents to students/parents to investigate schools they do investigate schools they do not knownot know

Bring list of questions (Do Bring list of questions (Do you offer scholarships? you offer scholarships? should not be the first should not be the first question!)question!)

Bring address labels/fill out Bring address labels/fill out inquiry cardsinquiry cards

Bring documents – athletic Bring documents – athletic resumes, transcriptsresumes, transcripts

College VisitsCollege Visits

Individual visit or Visitation Day – Individual visit or Visitation Day – check university web sitecheck university web site

Call ahead/send in reservationCall ahead/send in reservation A tour and presentation are typicalA tour and presentation are typical Other possibilities, depending on Other possibilities, depending on

institution (you need to ask), include: institution (you need to ask), include: Lunch, Visiting a class, Talk with a Lunch, Visiting a class, Talk with a professor, Talk to a coach, Staying professor, Talk to a coach, Staying overnight with a studentovernight with a student

Scholarship, Scholarship, Scholarship, Scholarship, Scholarship….Scholarship….

Show me the money!Show me the money!

Academic “Merit” ScholarshipsAcademic “Merit” Scholarships

GPA requirementGPA requirement Test score requirementTest score requirement LeadershipLeadership InvolvementInvolvement EssayEssay Watch Deadlines!Watch Deadlines!

Need-based AidNeed-based Aid

GrantsGrants• Income-basedIncome-based

LoansLoans• Need U.S. co-signerNeed U.S. co-signer

On-campus workOn-campus work• Might not be offered prior to arrivalMight not be offered prior to arrival• Jobs are normally availableJobs are normally available• Income will only be spending moneyIncome will only be spending money

Performing Arts ScholarshipsPerforming Arts Scholarships

ArtArt• Portfolio requiredPortfolio required• Check with school for exact requirementsCheck with school for exact requirements• Watch for specific submission dateWatch for specific submission date

Music/Theater/DanceMusic/Theater/Dance• Audition CD/DVDAudition CD/DVD• Check with school for exact requirementsCheck with school for exact requirements• Usually only “Majors” get scholarshipUsually only “Majors” get scholarship• Watch for deadlineWatch for deadline

Athletic ScholarshipsAthletic Scholarships Start process earlyStart process early Athlete may be very good, but the other factor is Athlete may be very good, but the other factor is

the “needs” of the team at that timethe “needs” of the team at that time Put together packet of info that can be shared Put together packet of info that can be shared

with coacheswith coaches To play for the most competitive DI and DII To play for the most competitive DI and DII

schools you have to be a highly ranked athleteschools you have to be a highly ranked athlete Full scholarships are rareFull scholarships are rare Academics are #1….very few go on to play Academics are #1….very few go on to play

professional sportsprofessional sports

The Admissions TimetableThe Admissions Timetable

Early DecisionEarly Decision Early ActionEarly Action Rolling AdmissionRolling Admission DeadlinesDeadlines

The Application PacketThe Application Packet

The application – not standardized across The application – not standardized across U.S.U.S.• Common app – not universally acceptedCommon app – not universally accepted• University app – on-line or paperUniversity app – on-line or paper• Make sure app is filled out COMPLETELY, and Make sure app is filled out COMPLETELY, and

ACCURATELYACCURATELY• Check to see if Canadians need to fill out the Check to see if Canadians need to fill out the

“international” application if applicable“international” application if applicable• Make sure app is signed by applicant and Make sure app is signed by applicant and

counselorcounselorApplication Fee – Up to $70 – normally not Application Fee – Up to $70 – normally not

waivedwaived

Proof of Language ProficiencyProof of Language Proficiency

TOEFL/IELTS is normally waived for TOEFL/IELTS is normally waived for CanadiansCanadians

Some possible exceptions (as Some possible exceptions (as determined by each individual determined by each individual university):university):• Student is in ESL classesStudent is in ESL classes• Student has only been in Canada for one Student has only been in Canada for one

yearyear• Student’s first language is not EnglishStudent’s first language is not English

The EssayThe Essay Not always requiredNot always required Sometimes only required for scholarship Sometimes only required for scholarship

considerationconsideration SAT writing section is sometimes accepted as SAT writing section is sometimes accepted as

“essay”“essay” Topic may or may not be givenTopic may or may not be given Preferred length may or may not be givenPreferred length may or may not be given Be creative, but don’t go overboardBe creative, but don’t go overboard

• ““The World is my oyster and “X” University is my pearl.”The World is my oyster and “X” University is my pearl.” Two most common mistakesTwo most common mistakes

• MisspellingsMisspellings• Wrong school name on essayWrong school name on essay

SATSAT May or may not be required for admission and/or May or may not be required for admission and/or

scholarshipscholarship Recommended minimum score or average score is Recommended minimum score or average score is

usually available on the university web siteusually available on the university web site SAT IS required if you would like to try and be in SAT IS required if you would like to try and be in

intercollegiate athleticsintercollegiate athletics NCAA minimum SAT requirement is lower than NCAA minimum SAT requirement is lower than

many of the universities’ admissions requirementsmany of the universities’ admissions requirements Written part is not necessarily counted in overall Written part is not necessarily counted in overall

score total for admission purposes, depending on score total for admission purposes, depending on institution, however, it may be used for English institution, however, it may be used for English placement or as a separate item in the admissions placement or as a separate item in the admissions decisiondecision

TranscriptsTranscripts

Original transcript is required from Original transcript is required from each secondary school attendedeach secondary school attended

Must show classes taken and grades Must show classes taken and grades receivedreceived

Some schools will “weigh” AP or IB Some schools will “weigh” AP or IB courses, while other colleges will courses, while other colleges will take the grades exactly as the SS take the grades exactly as the SS sends themsends them

Verification of financial supportVerification of financial support Original bank statementOriginal bank statement

• Must show at least one year’s worth of Must show at least one year’s worth of expenses, as established by each individual expenses, as established by each individual college/universitycollege/university

• It is assumed that the support will continue for It is assumed that the support will continue for the duration of the degreethe duration of the degree

• If a scholarship has already been offered, only If a scholarship has already been offered, only the balance might need to be shownthe balance might need to be shown

• If a scholarship of any kind is offered, it is If a scholarship of any kind is offered, it is important to get it in writing, AND it is crucial important to get it in writing, AND it is crucial that the offer is “accepted” by established that the offer is “accepted” by established deadline.deadline.

Signed statement from parent or sponsorSigned statement from parent or sponsor

Other ItemsOther Items

Recommendation lettersRecommendation letters ResumeResume IEP – Individual Education Plan – used IEP – Individual Education Plan – used

for students who have specific for students who have specific learning needslearning needs

Rank (needed or not)Rank (needed or not) Art portfolioArt portfolio Music audition tapeMusic audition tape

The Admissions DecisionThe Admissions Decision

Watch Deadlines!....both for admission, Watch Deadlines!....both for admission, and for scholarshipand for scholarship

Make sure application file is completeMake sure application file is complete Be familiar with the universities’ Be familiar with the universities’

admissions processes.admissions processes.• Can new updated info be sent later for Can new updated info be sent later for

scholarship consideration?scholarship consideration?• Is there an appeal process?Is there an appeal process?

Admissions closed / Wait list / Wait poolAdmissions closed / Wait list / Wait pool

Intercollegiate AthleticsIntercollegiate Athletics

NCAA ClassificationNCAA Classification Division I and Division II (DI & DII)Division I and Division II (DI & DII)

• ExamplesExamples• DifferencesDifferences

Division III (DIII)Division III (DIII)• ExamplesExamples• Athletic scholarships not availableAthletic scholarships not available

NAIANAIA Jr./Community CollegeJr./Community College OtherOther

• Club SportsClub Sports• IntramuralsIntramurals

How Coaches RecruitHow Coaches Recruit

Inquiries by students/their coachesInquiries by students/their coaches TimetableTimetable Talent vs. needTalent vs. need Recruited vs. walk-onRecruited vs. walk-on Time commitmentTime commitment Stress should be on academicsStress should be on academics

What can a prospective What can a prospective student/athlete send?student/athlete send?

An athletic resumeAn athletic resume Letters from coachLetters from coach Highlight videoHighlight video Newspaper articlesNewspaper articles On-campus work-outOn-campus work-out

Potential Affect of Athletics on the Potential Affect of Athletics on the Admissions ProcessAdmissions Process

An athlete might go through the An athlete might go through the admissions process later than others, admissions process later than others, depending on the sportdepending on the sport

If an athlete is a “blue chip” recruit, then If an athlete is a “blue chip” recruit, then the coach will probably be talking to the coach will probably be talking to admissions about him/heradmissions about him/her

Admissions requirements still have to be Admissions requirements still have to be met, but if a student is border-line met, but if a student is border-line SOMETIMES a coach will “go to bat” for a SOMETIMES a coach will “go to bat” for a prospect with the admissions officeprospect with the admissions office

https://https://www.ncaaclearinghouse.net/www.ncaaclearinghouse.net/

NCAA/general/index_general.htmlNCAA/general/index_general.html Information for International Student-AthletesWhat Information for International Student-AthletesWhat

is the NCAA Initial-Eligibility Clearinghouse? is the NCAA Initial-Eligibility Clearinghouse? • The Clearinghouse is an agency which will provide initial-The Clearinghouse is an agency which will provide initial-

eligibility certification for all prospective student-athletes eligibility certification for all prospective student-athletes wishing to compete as freshmen at NCAA member institutions wishing to compete as freshmen at NCAA member institutions offering Division I or II athletics. The Clearinghouse is not a offering Division I or II athletics. The Clearinghouse is not a placement agency or an admissions office - it will not locate a placement agency or an admissions office - it will not locate a college/institution for student-athletes to attend. The NCAA college/institution for student-athletes to attend. The NCAA Clearinghouse will provide the student's initial-eligibility Clearinghouse will provide the student's initial-eligibility certification results to all colleges/universities that request to certification results to all colleges/universities that request to receive this information.receive this information.

Who must register with the Clearinghouse? Who must register with the Clearinghouse? Any Any prospective student-athlete who will enroll in college as a prospective student-athlete who will enroll in college as a freshman and plans to compete in NCAA Division I or freshman and plans to compete in NCAA Division I or Division II athletics must register with the Clearinghouse. Division II athletics must register with the Clearinghouse.   

The NCAA ClearinghouseThe NCAA Clearinghouse

Courses taken, grades received and Courses taken, grades received and SAT I scores are all part of the SAT I scores are all part of the processprocess

Clearinghouse requirements are Clearinghouse requirements are lower than most university’s lower than most university’s admissions requirementsadmissions requirements

Being “cleared” to play does not Being “cleared” to play does not insinuate admission to any universityinsinuate admission to any university

Clearinghouse Requirement for Clearinghouse Requirement for Ontario StudentsOntario Students

Ontario Secondary School Diploma (OSSD). The document above meets core-curriculum requirements only if the coursework

represented satisfies the core-curriculum distribution as specified in Bylaw 14.3.1.1

The grade-point average must be at least 60.000 percent (equivalent to U.S. 2.000) to 75.500 percent (equivalent to U.S. 3.550) or higher on a 100-0 (100 high) scale.

The grade-point average is calculated by averaging those core courses with passing grades that appear on the document above and transcripts for grades nine through 12.

Courses must satisfy the core-curriculum distribution specified in Bylaw 14.3.1.1. Please note that courses identified as P (applied), O (open), E (workplace prep) and C (college) are not acceptable. Courses identified as M (university/college preparation), U (university preparation) and D (academic) are acceptable.

Applicable grading scale (may not be all inclusive): Excellent 80-100% Good 70-79% Satisfactory 60-69% Poor 50-59% (lowest passing grade; see page 5) Fail 0-49%

Estimated Probability of Competing in Athletics Beyond SS levelEstimated Probability of Competing in Athletics Beyond SS levelStudent Student AthletesAthletes

Men’s Men’s BasketballBasketball

Women’s Women’s BasketballBasketball

BaseballBaseball Men’s Ice Men’s Ice HockeyHockey

Men’s Men’s

SoccerSoccer

SS AthletesSS Athletes 546,335546,335 452,929452,929 470,671470,671 36,26336,263 358,935358,935

SS Sr. SS Sr. AthletesAthletes

156,096156,096 129,408129,408 134,477134,477 10,36110,361 102.553102.553

NCAA NCAA AthletesAthletes

16,57116,571 15,09615,096 28,76728,767 3,9733,973 19,79319,793

NCAA NCAA Fresh. Fresh. Roster Pos.Roster Pos.

4,7354,735 4,3134,313 8,2198,219 1,1351,135 5,6555,655

NCAA Sr. NCAA Sr. AthletesAthletes

3,6823,682 3,3553,355 6,3936,393 883883 4,3984,398

NCAA NCAA Athletes Athletes DraftedDrafted

4444 3232 600600 3333 7676

% SS - % SS - NCAANCAA

3.0%3.0% 3.3%3.3% 6.1%6.1% 11.0%11.0% 5.5%5.5%

% NCAA - % NCAA - ProPro

1.2%1.2% 1.0%1.0% 9.4%9.4% 3.7%3.7% 1.7%1.7%

% SS - Pro% SS - Pro 0.03%0.03% 0.02%0.02% 0.45%0.45% 0.32%0.32% 0.07%0.07%

Question and AnswerQuestion and Answer

Thank you!Thank you!

We look forward to seeing at We look forward to seeing at the University Fair!the University Fair!