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Devdatt Dave, is a astrologer based inChennai and has an experience of 40 years in

the profession of astrology, palmistry &numerology. A great lover of books, his deepinterest in the science was awakened whilereading a book published by Janmabhoomi

way back in 1969 and gradually his curiositytook him to tread deeper in to acquaintingcomplete knowledge of the subject. In the processhe joined the institute of astrological studies andacquired deeper knowledge from stalwarts like

Late Dr. B.V Raman, Mr. S. K. Kelkar,

Mr.Ashwathapa, Mr.Dhwijen Desai. He hasactively participated in several workshops onastrology, Vastu Shastra ashtakavarga(conducted by the renowned late Mr. C. S. Patel)He has also been the committee member to IAS(Institute of astrological studies) .With his keeninterest in palmistry he also has a huge databaseof palm prints of people from various walks of life

Recipient of Jyotish Vachaspati certificatefrom Bruhad Gujarat astrological society,

Ahmadabad. His website is www.astrolight.in

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ByDevdatt. B. Daveelow is a verse from Sambhu Hora

Praksha which has been translated

in English By Late R Santhanam.

It is one of the rarest classics that is often

ignored by even senior astrologers.

Incidentally it contains gems in astrology.Here is scribes attempt to modify the

shloka slightly.

Mars and Saturn in 12th 8thor 5thHouse [SambhuHora Praksha 14/13]Chapter 14

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Meanings:

If the 9thlord is in the 12thhouse and 12thlord is in the 9thhouse and without strength, and in

the 3rdhouse malefics are placed, then this is also considered as a Kemadruma Yoga.

Such a person will be interested in having food in others places, will be engaged in bad

deeds and against dharmic principles, Will have mean mentality, will be interested in other

women and will be in debts.

Mars and Saturn together in the 12th, 8th or 5th house (Sambu Hora prakasha -14/14), the

person will be deprived of his motherland, having to leave his/her place of birth due to bad

luck. This is another kind of Kemadruma Yoga.

This article is based on the last verse.

As per the above given principle the person with such combinations in their horoscopes are

usually deprived of their mother land, having to leave his/her place of birth.

To prove the same, below given, are a couple of charts of various individuals with the given

combinations and short description as to how the above principle was applicable in each

case. In majority cases there is no conjunction between Saturn and Mars but both are placed

in one of the houses viz. 12 or 5 or 8. But there is some link between Mars and Saturn in all

the charts either in the Rasi chart or Navamsa chart as seen below:

Chart of Mr.P.MDOB 17/6/ 1956 Time 10.00am

Place- Vishnagar (Gujarat)

Lat 23N 4200/ Long- 72E 3300

In this chart Saturn is in the 5thhouse Scorpio which is the house of Mars and Mars is in

8thhouse - Aquarius-the house of Saturn. So there is Parivartana between Mars and Saturn.

Also in Navamsa Chart (Chart not provided here) they are in mutual aspect.


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In the above chart Saturn is in the 5thhouse and Mars in the 8thhouse.

- The person was originally doing steel business during 1997 2000.- In this phase he introduced a financial scheme for customer benefit which backfired

and he had to flee his place of birth with huge debts and moved into Chennai to reside

with his in-laws. Vimshottari dasa running was of Saturn and Antardasa was also ofSaturn.

- Despite of all above circumstances and 5thhouse of this individuals horoscope beingpoor, his son now an IT Engineer , is well placed

Chart of Mr.U.DDOB 21 Sep 1959

Time 23.06.00

Place-Chennai

In this chart Mars is in the 5thhouse in Virgo and Saturn is in the 8thhouse in Sagittarius

and thus there is mutual aspect between Mars and Saturn. In Navamsa Saturn and Mars are

conjoined in Gemini, the 10thhouse of Navamsa chart.


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Here Mars is in the 5thhouse and Saturn in the 8thhouse.

Instance during the period of Rahu Mars between 1999- 2000

- He was a commission agent for textile business and alongside did private textilebusiness and suffered loss due to his suppliers.

- In spite of the difficulties he began working for plywood market and after yet anotherunsuccessful endeavor, was eventually forced to leave with family from Chennai

between 1999 -2000. Vimshottari dasa-Antardasa was of Rahu-Mars-Rahu. In 5H is

Mars and receives the aspect of Saturn.

- He relocated to Bharuch (Gujarat) started off his own laundry with the aid of his in-laws.

- His son is well placed now as a Chemical Engineer ( this is yet another constant thingseen so far in most case quoted here and may require further pondering as a separatesubject of discussion )

Chart of Mr.HPMDOB 28 Oct 1956

Time 1.15 am

Place Bhavnagar (Gujarat)


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Mars is in the 8th house Saturns house and Saturn is in Scorpio-house of Mars. Thus

there is exchange between Mars and Saturn. In Navamsa there is no link.

Condition applicable 5thhouse occupied by Saturn and 8thhouse occupied by Mars

- Basic education was poor- Imperfect business style and he ended up cheating his shop owner by selling his rental

property to a third party for a sum of 7 lakhs and fled from Chennai with the amount

between 1996 -1997. Vimshottari dasa was of Moon and Antardasa during this period

was of Moon and Mars. If the exact date is known some reasoning could be given.

- His son is now better placed as an Electrical engineer

Chart of Mr HS and Mr.MSHSDOB - 9 June 1951

Time 16.30

Place Chennai

There is no link between Saturn and Mars in Rasi chart but in Navamsa they are in mutual

aspect.


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Saturn is in 12thhouse and Mars in 8thHouse

MSDOB 13 May 1981

Time 07 .00 am

Place Chennai


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There is no link between Saturn and Mars in Rasi chart but in Navamsa they are in mutual

aspect.

Condition applicable Mars occupies 12thhouse & Saturn occupies 5thhouse.

11-2-2012 to 12-4-2012

- The father son duo were involved with imitation jewellery business, suffered hugedebts, separation from siblings.

- Yet with persistent efforts he helped set up a travel agency for his son again withborrowed money.

- Finally they went broke due to repeated business failures and huge liabilities thatforced them to flee from Chennai in 2012

Vimshottari dasa running was of Mars and Antardasa was of Rahu for HS. Rahu is placed

in the house of Saturn.

And for MS Rahu Dasa-Jupiter Antardasa was running. Jupiter is conjunct Saturn. Rahu isaspected by Mars.

Charts of Mr.HDV and Mrs.RHVHDVDOB -2 May 1971

Time 19.00.00

Place Chennai


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In this chart there is no link between Mars and Saturn except the fact that Mars is in

Capricorn, the house of Saturn. In Navamsa also there is no link.

RHVDOB 15 Dec 1971

Time _ 02.45.00

Place Chennai

In this chart there is mutual aspect between Mars and Saturn.

Condition applicable Mars occupies 5thhouse and Saturn occupies 8thhouse

These are charts of husband and wife

- Father of Mr.HDV expired on 17/3/09 and left a legacy of debts.- Currently Mr.HDV continues to run the family business (of cycle spare parts) and

making efforts to clear off all existing debts

- As seen his wifes chart also reveal Mars in 5thHouse and Saturn in 8th house withMars in highest shadabala.

- As of date, this family continues to have a meager to moderate existence and as seen inprevious cases, similar circumstances of prosperity have not yet come about.

- Yet the charts are indicative and hence can definitely be borne in mind for applicationof the principle.


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As a concluding remark, I take the liberty to suggest remedial measures for the above as

follows:

For eg. For Taurus & Libra ascendant (Lagna) advised to wear sapphire blue (precious

gemstone and offer prayers to Mars)

For Leo and Cancer ascendant (Lagna) advised to wear coral (precious gemstone) and

offer prayers to Saturn.

Likewise for every Lagna, yoga karaka we can suggest the requisite gemstone or prayers.

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