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June 10, 2004 IETF 59,5 - Richardson, TX, USA 1
lemonade Interim 59,5
Eric [email protected]
Glenn [email protected]
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Scribes and Transcribes
JABBER detailsRoom: lemonade Server: ietf.xmpp.orgLogs: http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-logs/[email protected]/
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Objectives for Interim
• Timeline– Drafts before IETF 60– LC after IETF 60– Revisions Before IETF 61– IESG Submission After IETF 61
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Agenda Bashing
• Pull Implementation Plan• 3GPP Liaison• IMAP Profile• Random Bits
– Notifications– Channel– Future Delivery– Documents Ready for WGLC
• Assign Document Authors
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Pull Implementation Plan
• Mechanism Discussion– BURL/CATENATE– Other?
• Pawn Ticket– Separate Document
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Forward without download
• Pull– Message headers requested and sent
to UA– Message header delivered to GUI– New message created with reference
to message received in 2. Sent to UA– Message with references sent to MS. – Message with reference to include
message in 4 sent to MTA– MTA requests MS to compile full
message and send to MTA.– MTA sends message via SMTP
UA
RFC-822/MIME
(E)SMTP
IMAP4
MS
MTAGUI
proprietaryAPI
proprietaryAPI
desktop client
email server1
2 3 5
6
4
7
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Issues to Address
– 3rd-Party Trust Model– FCC: Submit Server Has to Send Message
to User; Store Needs to Know Message for Sent Items Folder
– Future Delivery: Where Does Message Get Queued? How Revoked?
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3GPP Liaison
Glenn Parsons
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3GPP MMS Reference Architecture & Lemonade
MM3
...
Relay
MMS UserAgent A
ExternalServer #1
(e.g. E-Mail)
ExternalServer #2(e.g. Fax)
ExternalSMSC GW
“Foreign”MMS
Relay/Server
MMS UserAgent B
Server
MM1
MM1
MM4
MMS Relay/Server
MM2
ExternalServer #3
(e.g. UMS)
MM6 MM5
MMS UserDatabases
HLRMMS VAS
Applications
MM7
SMPPLemonade
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3GPP LiaisonTdoc S2-041675
• MMS Over IP for WLAN
• Described by 3GPP TS 23.234– 3GPP system to Wireless Local Area
Network (WLAN) interworking; System description (Release 6)
• Would Like to Use lemonade Access Instead of WAP over IP
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IMAP Profile
Stéphane Maes
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Immanent Candidates for WGLC
• lemonade Goals– New Revision– Nits review, then WG last call
• Media Size– draft-shveidel-mediasize-05
• Notifications Requirements– draft-decktor-s2s-notif-01– Expired– Interest in Continuing Work?
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Random Bits
• Channel– draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-channel-01– Was on Hold for Resources
• Future Delivery– draft-vaudreuil-futuredelivery-02– Was on Hold for pull/push Decision
• MMS mapping– draft-gellens-lemonade-mms-mapping-00– Wait for pull/push & IMAP profile progression
• Other extensions?
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Milestone Guidelines
• Drafts before IETF 60
• Working Group Last Call (WGLC)after IETF 60
• Revisions Before IETF 61
• IESG Submission After IETF 61
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Milestones (1 of 5)
• Goals– Update Goals– WGLC Goals– Submit Goals to IESG
• Media Size– WGLC Media Size– Submit Media Size to IESG
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Milestones (2 of 5)
• Notifications Requirements– WGLC Notifications Requirements– Submit Notifications Requirements to IESG
• CHANNEL– Review/Update CHANNEL– WGLC CHANNEL– Submit CHANNEL to IESG
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Milestones (3 of 5)
• Pull Protocol– First Draft Pull Protocol– First Draft Pawn Ticket– WGLC CATENATE– WGLC Pull Protocol,Pawn Ticket, and
CATENATE– Submit Pull Protocol, Pawn Ticket, and
CATENATE to IESG
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Milestones (4 of 5)
• IMAP Profile– First Draft IMAP Profile– WGLC IMAP Profile– Submit IMAP Profile to IESG
• Notifications Protocol– First Draft Notifications Protocol– WGLC Notifications Protocol– Submit Notifications Protocol to IESG
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Milestones (5 of 5)
• Update MMS – lemonade Interworking
• WGLC Interworking
• Submit Interworking to IESG
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