imo 668 - for agent use only presented by michael f. kresl, cpa national sales manager
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Presented By
Michael F. Kresl, CPA
National Sales Manager
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AMERICAN NATIONAL AMERICAN NATIONAL INSURANCE COMPANYINSURANCE COMPANY
GALVESTON, TEXAS
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The Small Business The Small Business Retirement Plan MarketRetirement Plan Market
• EGTRRA….MORE THAN 60 CHANGES LIBERALIZING SMALL BUSINESS PLANS
• PPA ’06….MADE THE PROVIONS OF EGTRRA PERMANENT
• CREATED OPPORTUNITES WITH COMBO PLANS AND TRADITIONAL DB AND GAVE THE GREEN LIGHT TO CASH BALANCE PLANS
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OPPORTUNITIES IN THE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SMALL BUSINESS SMALL BUSINESS
PENSION MARKETPLACEPENSION MARKETPLACE
EVERY BUSINESS ENTITY CAN HAVE EVERY TYPE OF PLAN
THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS – WHETHER THEY HAVE A PLAN OR NOT
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WHY SHOULD YOU CONSIDER WHY SHOULD YOU CONSIDER THE SMALL BUSINESS THE SMALL BUSINESS
PENSION MARKET?PENSION MARKET?
• DOOR OPENER
• DOOR CLOSER
• YOU’RE SELLING “TAX DEDUCTIONS” AND “RETIREMENT INCOME”
• GETS YOU IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE MONEY
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THE BUSINESS OWNER THE BUSINESS OWNER NEEDS TO UNDERSTANDNEEDS TO UNDERSTAND
• IT MAY BE COSTING HIM MONEY NOT HAVING A PLAN
OR
• NOT HAVING THE RIGHT PLAN
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WHAT IS A DEFINED WHAT IS A DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN?BENEFIT PLAN?
• A PROMISE OF FUTURE BENEFITS
• NO FLEXIBILITY IN FUNDING
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WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT FROM A DB PLAN?BENEFIT FROM A DB PLAN?
• GENERALLY THE PLAN CAN FUND FOR A MAXIMUM BENEFIT OF 100% OF SALARY WITH A DOLLAR LIMIT OF $195,000 (FOR THE YEAR 2011)
$16,250 MAXIMUM MONTHLY BENEFIT (WITH 10 YEAR’S PARTICIPATION)
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WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM DEDUCTION ALLOWED TODEDUCTION ALLOWED TO
A DB PLAN?A DB PLAN?
• WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO FUND THE BENEFITS IN THE PLAN
• THEREFORE, NO MAXIMUM CONTRIBUTION
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WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL WITH 412(e) and DEFINED WITH 412(e) and DEFINED
BENEFIT PLANS?BENEFIT PLANS?
BIG TAX DEDUCTIONS
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412(e) FULLY INSURED412(e) FULLY INSUREDDEFINED BENEFIT PLANSDEFINED BENEFIT PLANS
• THE LARGEST POSSIBLE DEDUCTION FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER WITH LITTLE TIME LEFT FOR RETIREMENT
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IF GOAL IS MAX DEDUCTIONIF GOAL IS MAX DEDUCTION OWNER AGE 52 (Ret age 62)
SALARY $195,000
DEDUCTION LIMITS:
• PROFIT SHARING $ 49,000• 401(k) PLAN $ 54,500• DEFINED BENEFIT $ 191,421• 412(e) DEFINED BENEFIT $ 274,458
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412(e)…. IT’S A DEFINED 412(e)…. IT’S A DEFINED BENEFIT PLANBENEFIT PLAN
• ALL ASPECTS OF THE PLAN ARE THE SAME AS ANY OTHER DB PLAN– PARTICIPATION– ELIGIBILITY– VESTING– MAXIMUM BENEFIT LIMIT, ETC.
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PLAN FUNDINGPLAN FUNDING
• PLAN INVESTMENTS MUST BE:– IN GUARANTEED INSURANCE
COMPANY CONTRACTS– USUALLY….
1. 100% FIXED ANNUITY, OR 2. COMBINATION OF FIXED ANNUITY
AND WHOLE LIFE INSURANCE
BENEFITS MUST BE GUARANTEED
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AT RETIREMENTAT RETIREMENT
• CASH OPTION IS CHOSEN
• ASSETS ARE ROLLED TO IRA
• IF ANNUITY DESIRED, THE MARKET CAN BE SHOPPED FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE RATE TO ANNUITIZE
• INTERGENERATIONAL IRA POSSIBILITIES
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PROSPECTS FOR 412(e)PROSPECTS FOR 412(e)
• AN OLDER OWNER OF A SMALL BUSINESS (USUALLY AGE 45+)
• MAKING A LOT OF MONEY
• WANTS LARGE DEDUCTIONS
• HAS FEW EMPLOYEES
• WILLING TO SETTLE FOR “FIXED ASSETS” FOR THE PLAN
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MAXIMUM LIFE INSURANCE MAXIMUM LIFE INSURANCE SAFE HARBORSSAFE HARBORS
1) FACE AMOUNT OF 100 TIMES THE
PROJECTED MONTHLY BENEFIT OR
2) PREMIUM CALCULATED UNDER
REV. RUL. 74-307
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INSURANCE IN A INSURANCE IN A DEFINED BENEFIT PLANDEFINED BENEFIT PLAN
NO INSURANCE IN THE PLAN: INSURANCE ANNUITY TOTAL
PREMIUM DEPOSIT PLAN COST
-0- $99,394 $99,394
$2,594,436 FACE AMOUNT IN THE PLAN: INSURANCE ANNUITY TOTAL
PREMIUM DEPOSIT PLAN COST
$66,261 $44,743 $111,004
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INSURANCE IN A INSURANCE IN A DEFINED BENEFIT PLANDEFINED BENEFIT PLAN
CORPORATE SITUATION:CORPORATE SITUATION:
NO INS = $99,394 / WITH INS = $111,004
PLAN COST TO ADD INSURANCE = $11,610AFTER TAX COST (40% BRACKET) = $ 6,966 $66,261 INSURANCE PREMIUM $6,966 AFTER TAX COST
90% DISCOUNT !! TO THE CORPORATION
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INSURANCE IDEA: INSURANCE IDEA: • INSURANCE CAN BE PURCHASED FROM
THE PLAN AFTER A FEW YEARS (NO TAXABLE EVENT) AND TRANSFERRED TO AN IRREVOCABLE TRUST TO BE EXCLUDED FROM ESTATE TAXES AT DEATH
• A COST EFFECTIVE METHOD OF PURCHASING NEEDED INSURANCE
Neither American National Insurance Company nor its Representatives gives Legal, Accounting or Tax Advice. Have clients consult their own Tax Advisor
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ADDITIONAL INSURANCE ADDITIONAL INSURANCE NOTE:NOTE:
• LIFE INSURANCE DIVIDENDS MUST BE USED TO REDUCE THE NEXT YEAR’S PLAN CONTRIBUTION
• INTEREST PAID ON THE ANNUITY IN EXCESS OF THE GUARANTEED RATE MUST BE USED TO REDUCE THE NEXT YEAR’S CONTRIBUTION
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INSURANCE OPTIONS AT INSURANCE OPTIONS AT RETIREMENTRETIREMENT
• SURRENDER THE POLICY
• DISTRIBUTE THE POLICY
• PURCHASE THE POLICY
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CASH BALANCECASH BALANCE
AGE SALARY ALLOCATION % OF SALARY
55 $225,000 $153,000 70%
44 34,000 5,380 15%
36 30,000 4,750 15%
25 28,000 4,430 15%
22 20,000 3,160 15%
$365,000 $170,720
OWNER’S SHARE = 90%
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NEW COMPARABILITYNEW COMPARABILITY
AGE SALARY ALLOCATION % OF SALARY
54 $225,000 $49,000 25%
44 34,000 1,700 5%
36 30,000 1,500 5%
25 28,000 1,400 5%
22 20,000 1,000 5%
$337,000 $54,600
OWNER’S SHARE = 89.7%
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SIDE BY SIDESIDE BY SIDE
AGE SALARY NEW COMP CASH BALANCE
55 $225,000 $49,000 $153,000
44 34,000 1,700 5,380
36 30,000 1,500 4,750
25 28,000 1,400 4,430
22 20,000 1,000 3,160
$337,000 $54,600 $170,720
OWNER’S SHARE = 89.7% 90%
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““TRADITIONAL” TRADITIONAL” PROFIT SHARINGPROFIT SHARING
AGE SALARY ALLOCATION % OF SALARY
60 $196,000 $29,400 15% 33 46,000 6,900 15% 34 47,000 7,050 15% 54 39,000 5,850 15% 42 35,000 5,250 15% 43 29,000 4,350 15%
$392,000 $58,800
OWNER’S SHARE = 50%
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““NEW COMPARABILITY” NEW COMPARABILITY” PROFIT SHARINGPROFIT SHARING
AGE SALARY ALLOCATION % OF SALARY
60 $196,000 $49,000 25% 33 46,000 2,300 5% 34 47,000 2,350 5% 54 39,000 1,950 5% 42 35,000 1,750 5% 43 29,000 1,450 5%
$368,000 $55,200
OWNER’S SHARE = 83%
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SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONSIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON
PLAN 1 PLAN 2
$27,600 15% $49,000 25% 6,900 15% 2,300 5% 7,050 15% 2,350 5% 5,850 15% 1,950 5% 5,250 15% 1,750 5% 4,350 15% 1,450 5% $55,200 $55,200
(50%) (83%)
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WHY IS THIS NOT WHY IS THIS NOT DISCRIMINATORY?DISCRIMINATORY?
DISCRIMINATION TESTING IS PERFORMED ON PROJECTED BENEFITS, NOT THE CONTRIBUTION LEVELS OF THE PARTICIPANTS
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PLAN ELECTIVE TOTAL AGE SALARY CONTRIBUTION DEFERRAL DEDUCTIONS
Owner 50 $211,000 $32,500 $22,000 $54,500Spouse 50 $ 49,000 $32,500 22,000 $54,500
Total $260,000 $65,000 $44,000 $109,000
Taxable salary for spouse = $ 27,000 Total deductions for spouse = $ 54,500 TOTAL DEDUCTION IS 202% OF TAXABLE SALARY!
Note: PS plan contribution of 66.3% of salary(to maximum of $32,500) with $22,000 elective deferral each
401(k) PROFIT SHARING 401(k) PROFIT SHARING (WITH SPOUSE ON PAYROLL)(WITH SPOUSE ON PAYROLL)
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““OWNER ONLY” CORPORATION OWNER ONLY” CORPORATION LOOKING FOR THE LARGEST LOOKING FOR THE LARGEST
DEDUCTION!DEDUCTION! ESTABLISH 412(e) DB PLAN ADD 401(k) PROFIT SHARING PLAN ADD SPOUSE TO PAYROLL FOR $20,500
MAX 412(i) PLAN PROFIT 401 (k) TOTAL
AGE SALARY WITH INSURANCE SHARING DEFERRAL DEDUCTION
OWNER 55 $245,000 $258,772 $14,700 $22,000 $295,472 SPOUSE 55 $ 22,000 $ 23,709 $ 1,320 $22,000 $ 47,029 $282,481 $16,020 $44,000 $342,501
(Note: this is NRA 65 so could create even larger deductions with a lower NRA)
(Spouse’s salary for income tax purposes = 0)
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GET MY #%^&*! ACCOUNTANT ON THE PHONE !!!!!!
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ESTABLISH PROFIT ESTABLISH PROFIT SHARING PLAN AND ROLL SHARING PLAN AND ROLL IRA FUNDS INTO IT IRA FUNDS INTO IT
WHY?
• AVAILABLE FOR LOANS (SP, SUB-S, PARTNERS)
• PURCHASE OF INSURANCE
• AGE 55 DISTRIBUTIONS
• CREDITOR PROOF
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TAKING OVER AN EXISTING TAKING OVER AN EXISTING PLAN IS VERY POSSIBLE IF PLAN IS VERY POSSIBLE IF
YOU CAN SUPPLYYOU CAN SUPPLY
1. MORE FAVORABLE PLAN DESIGN
2. MORE INVESTMENT OPTIONS
3. LOWER ADMINISTRATION FEES
4. PLAN DESIGN, ADMINISTRATION, AND FUNDING ALL IN ONE PLACE
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ANICO ADVANTAGESANICO ADVANTAGES
• MORE FAVORABLE PLAN DESIGN
• LOWER ADMINISTRATIVE FEES
• MORE INVESTMENT OPTIONS
• ACTIVE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT
• DESIGN, ADMINISTRATION, AND FUNDING ALL DONE IN ONE PLACE
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THAT INCLUDES..THAT INCLUDES..
• PLAN DESIGN
• ADMINISTRATION
• FUNDING
• INVESTMENT ADVICE
• ALL IN ONE PLACE
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Roth IRA Sales IdeaRoth IRA Sales Idea Small Business Owners can Mitigate the
Substantial Personal Income Taxes Due on Roth IRA Conversions!
Yes, It’s True . . . And Somebody’s
Not Happy!
Here’s how . .Here’s how . . . .
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Roth IRA Conversion Tax ConsequencesRoth IRA Conversion Tax ConsequencesExample: Married Taxpayer, $100,000 AGI with taxable income of $80,000
(pre conversion net tax rate of 18%) converts $100,000 to Roth IRA.
Prior to Conversion After Conversion
AGI $ 100,000 $ 100,000
Taxable Income 80,000 180,000
Taxes Due (Fed) $ 14,870 $ 41,160
After conversion net tax rate of 23% but an increase in federal income taxes due of $26,290. Add in an additional 5% in state income taxes and the total additional taxes due would approach $ 32,000!
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How are the substantial additional taxes to be paid?
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The Concept is Simple . . .
Execute the Roth Conversion . . . and
Contribute to a Qualified Plan . . . and
Mitigate the taxes due on the Roth Conversion
. . . by not writing the by not writing the check to the IRS!check to the IRS!
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Roth IRA – Qualified PlanRoth IRA – Qualified Plan Tax Tax Planning StrategyPlanning Strategy
Business Owner, Age 50, Compensation: $260,000 No “Eligible” Employees except spouse, $200,000 in NQ “Liquid” Assets Available,
30% Combined Federal & State Tax Rate
Objective: Convert $ 200,000 to Roth IRA and NOT PAY the additional $ 60,000 current Federal & State Income Taxes.
2011 Agenda
1. Establish Defined Contribution Contribution Plan
2. Partial conversion ($100,000) to Roth IRA each year
3. Fund 401(k) Plan @ $ 100,000 per Year
Result: $60,000 saved over 2 years in federal & state taxes.Result: $60,000 saved over 2 years in federal & state taxes.
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PLAN ELECTIVE TOTAL AGE SALARY CONTRIBUTION DEFERRAL DEDUCTIONS
Owner 50 $211,000 $32,500 $22,000 $54,500Spouse 50 $ 49,000 $32,500 22,000 $54,500
Total $260,000 $65,000 $44,000 $109,000
Taxable salary for spouse = $ 27,000 Total deductions for spouse = $ 54,500
Note: PS plan contribution of 66.3% of salary(to maximum of $32,500) with $22,000 elective deferral each
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401(k) Profit Sharing Plan 401(k) Profit Sharing Plan (With Spouse on the Payroll)(With Spouse on the Payroll)