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T•.•IS CASE ORIGINATED AT OklEho;la City. Okle-hona FILENO. 7-6

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REPORT ••AOE;AT: DAn; WHEN MAD£: PUlIOD l'Oil WHICH .....-. AU'OIlT MAD« .V,

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George ltollyt under arrest at Uamphis, Tenn.. adm1h tba tbe and :satea kidnaped Urschel and divided ranaom equally,

~each receiving $100,000. Denies that hiB wite, Kathryn,::·badtoreknowled8e ot kidnapiIl8. btbryn Kelly denies that"'she knew ot kidnaping until atter it o~curred, but ~dmit8'I •presence at Paradise, Texas while Urschel was being held'"and tleeing with her husband to vnrious sections ot the.'United states.

This report i8 submitted jointly by Special Agent in Charge j. K. Keithof the Washington Field DiT1s1on ottioe and Special Agent in Charge W. A. Rorer ott~e Birmingham Division orrioe, and is 8upplemental to a detailed report concerningthe c1rcumstances ot the arrest ot tM!ijieKell 8 at Memphis, Tennels.e ·on.september25,.1~:33 sT\bmitted by Special A8ent 61··~he Birmingham otrice and fol'-Warded in ro~gh dreft, ~irmail, to the reo or, ctober 1, 1933.

~~ Immodletely following their arrest at Memphis, George and ~tbryn Kellywere interviewed Ht intervals by Keith and Rorer OVer the period between the ~ete ortheir ~rrest on Septeober 26, 1933 and the date or their removal to Oklahoma Cityon October 1, 1933. During that period they at various timea made partial ad-misaiOIla ot guilt and thie ropori--aria tcr.h in aubatance. tho-oral atbl11Jrt~'l!IIId8 ,...-: I-by each. Both refused to sign written statementa.

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} Kelly stated that to~ eomat1me~ior to the kldJ1aplzagpt Urschel, heI and his wite, bthryn, had l1Ted at l!'ort Worth, Tems; that he, topther With~Bates, Ed Bentz and a uan named_ were wanted fO~ a beD.COlllllitted! at Colfax, ~eshington; that a City Detective by the name 0 had

becomef'riendly with h1l:land his wifo at Fort Worth and tipped them off when taewarran~s trom Colfax were received by the Pollce'Department in Fort Worth; thathe ?aid 1500.00 tor this tip and, or cours. evaded arrest on thecharge. that at subseQ.uent times ha had glVen~JIIC)ne:y, aa had his wife,Kat:u-yn.

Kelly stated that he and Bates had first planned to kidnap a Q6U DAmed_ c t 3t. Josel)h, l!1eeourl, but gave this up when they were unable to make the

proper contact. that they next planned the kidnaping of a01' the Tlrat Natioml Bank in OklaholZ!lClt7 but th1e feU through ror the samer-ee son ; ":t."!t ";he:' next ~·l?:-.r..,.'! ~o !<i~;, tiiiiiiijT.1.c owns ~ ~e;'.f::-t...e .. ~ z t cr-e10 C:;l·:.:",..s: ':itj' •. !.:. ~~.~~ :';';'.811:: t::-s:..el··~Ls c.e:l:'ed ~,~r.. 46:'!.;,·!>-toted tha;b", and ~Tes c~~e vc O:~~:.(;::-.e.:::.t:: ::;.::v"r~: -:-:eeks ~·r:.'-:-t~ ~:"': \.·:-s::~;el~:1~~lngtor the purpOB8or l1ll1q up a k14Daplng cue; tba t throU&h a triend or his 1llOklahoae C1t1. whomhe retu.aed to ••••••, a man ft. toUDd to ~\lt the tlcger- onUrschel and thU this ft. wbat cau.~ them to tinally deoide to k1dnapthe latter;that this unnamedperson told him that ha knewa man named .}llrrett, who wast'riendl~' with Urschel, end whomight be egreeable to "putting the ringer" on him;t!le.t th1n \lDDAmedgo-between got in touch with .Terrett and reported to him and3ates t~+. Jerrett would entertalll such a proposition; that he and Bates registeredat the liuc~lns liotel 1n OklahomaCity early in JUly aot stayed there until aboutJUly 6th or 7th; that ~arrett was tirst brought to hls room in the Huckins Hotelby the u~~d go.between on JUly 4th and at that timB Ii'greed for a considerationv: ~25,OO:. to "put t~e :inger" on Urschel; ti~t it was at first planned to tryto get Urschel in an euto~obile but that Jarrett later reported to hiw et theHuckins Hotel that Urschel seldam rode in cars but had the habit of walking downtown each raorn1ng fo·r exercise with 'some judge and ih8't-Urschel also waiked home' '--evenings fo r exercise; that J'arrett sugge.ted he might be able to arrange for abridge g~e with the Urschels and, ir 80, would let htm know.

Kelly further stated that he and Bate., on or about J\lly 7th, checkedout or the Huck1ns Rotel and registered at the Biltmore Hotel as being rromI",:'!':::':,!l)olis, Indiana. Kelly stc:.ted :.e b~lie'/e~ ;~e u s~d. ~::e 8:;'1as cf J. L.E'.!l-.t:!"':"; oc••.a ~otels "!d. '';~.E'.~LJp,tesney have used tht; alias 0-: ~Vi5 - a'.; al.;;' :-·:::'..e,Eelly

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Kelly further stated that he and Bates arranged with 1arrett a signalr.hereby they would know whether Uraohel was at home'; that 1t was agreed with~arrett that if bridge were being played by himself and wire ~th ~. end ~s.Urschel on the screened porch at the Urschel home, Jarrett would leave hisPierce Arrow a~to~obile parked in front of the Ursohel house; that, hor.ever. lrtheir eL6agawent with the Urschels was ror other purposos and they were not toplay brldge on the screened porch, the Pierce Arrow car would be loft parked atthe slde or tho house on the driveway. According to Kelly, he end Bntes ~U:'t~erE.::'r'.n£ed-..:i tl: .Tarrett tr.~t Vihen they approached the' scr-eened porch to J:1d!:api.::-~cL.e1,~:ley ~';c,u:'d stick a I:lechinegun tilrough the screen uire and order tilet thedoor be openedj that .Tarrett would then unfesten the door. According to Kelly.it was further agreed that 1arrett would be takon along with UrSChel 1n order tocover him uP. but would bo later releaaea..

Kelly further stated that he and Bates in a Chevrolet car cruised inthe neighborhood or the Urschel home on the nights or JUly 18th, 19th, 20th and21st but ~het 1arrett's Pierce Arrow ~utomobile was not there. Kelly says he didnot know it at the time but later learned that Urschel had made ~ SUdden trip toChicago an~ :or this reason the bridge game had not been arranged.

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On the night of JUly 22, 1933, according to Kelly, he and Betes inpcssing the Urschel home in the Chevrolet wlth the1r machine gun saw the pierco~row parked 1n front or tho houae; that this occurred shortly arter dark; thatttey kept patrol1ng the neighborhood untU the ..t1ma of the -k!4nap1Dg-at about '11:00 o'clock or shortly thereafter; that ror various re8.8o~ they delayed ~thesnatch"j that they were trying to loca.\e tho Urachel waUbman, a socond timeneighbors were on the front porch, aaa1n • Doclge 8 automobUe 1Rla parked at theresidence and they eaw an unknowu girl there. !'1Dally, rearing thebrid8e gamewould brMk up, they _~re _t~e ..Che'n'Ol.e' lAW the ,UrKhel 4rlw..y and upon~pr6achlng t~e door to the screened porch. found it unlockedj thet Bates rushed1L first r.itn a revolver, Kelly following \'7itl:a I:8chlne £UI1j tho.t they stuc l, up

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not tal.kad 1i1t~Uraoilal peraClWllly, he had seen him there. Be further stated thathe and Bates then took both Urschel and' J8.ri.ett and put them in the baok seat ofthe ChoU"Olat and 4ron .1III;Ji that ·the)" 41'0" east t~ ~G& C1i7 a ellorl

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According to Kelly, he and Bates were then confro~ted with the propo-sition of finding 0 new hideoutj that they drove southweat to stratrord, Oklahomato "Old ~n~ Coleman's place, where he had stored a Buick ~utomobile; that they5rrivcd ~t this ?l;ce snortly bero~e d~ylight. ~lly denied that his r,lfe, Kathryn,~.:;,set t~e Cole:na.LpLace but cla1Led that he asked "old ladY" Coleman if they couldkeep Urschel there; that she "cussed~ him out and rerueed to permit 1'\; that theythan transrerred Urachel to the Buick car, put atolen plates on it and left in itror Peradise, Texas.

Kelly further stated that they did not cross the old Red RiTer bridgeat either Gainesville or Denison, Te7.8s, but went into Texas on the new concretebridge acrolls the Red River.

Kelly stated that he had no previous arrangement with ·old IIJUl" Shannonor his wife to use that plaae 8S a hideout; that the only thing which hed beensaid in this connection was a conversation whlch he some time berore had had withyoung ArmonShannon, when he had asked Armonwhether the latter wanted to ma.kesomemoney. He says that Armon's reply was to the effect that he would like to makeaoraemoney1f he could be aur8Gt-AOt .geUing in trouble and tbat he e8"'ll"Od ~nit would be sare. Be denied that he had in mind 'the tn-achel k14naPiD&at the timeor this conversation, but adm1tte4 that 1181I'&ef1gur1.J1&em a -"'ich-. Xe117further stated that duriae th18 Conft.n&UCIiIlnth .irIIIIDZl sM"noD, tN laUar UDder-stood that be 1I'U talking about the JUcl1ng or, & k1:dDape4peHOIl. .

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Kelly steted that he and Bates arrived in the Buick car with U~schelat tae Sht:onnoo:Oar:.;near Peradise, Tems &bout 2:30 F.l..:. or: sunday, .rul;r 23, 1933;"hf.t they told "old man" Shannon and t.1s wUe the.t tLey had a drunk ne.n ane. 'tool;

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him into a room ~here he was ke~t under guard; that ~thryn wes not present et theShenpon t~ when they arr1ved; that later "old mane Sbonnou, becoming susp1ciousthat they .ere not holding a drunk: man but a "snatch v1Ct1m", made them move

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but ins lateel tbat he, hIll1Belt. dId the oook1Dgduring the tirst six di.ys Urschel11'88 held.

Kelly did not say detinitely how long Bates remained at' the Shennonf~ ~ttar Urschel was brought there, but intimated that Bates remained there onlye s!lorl time and left for the purpose or going North to arrange tor the ransompayment. He said that be understood Bates would go some plac. north of Oklahomato send the ranson: demands in order that it might appear to be a "XI'lnsasCity job"and to throw the authorities oft the track ~B to where Urachel was being held.He se1d he later learned trom Bates that the latter bought a Corona typewriter onwhich to type the ransom letter and he believes Bates typed this letter in theautomobile wbich he was using. Acoording to Kelly, Bates'~lled the tirst ransamletter in Joplin. ~~ssouri, uhich d~ded the *200,000.00 ~nd gave inatructionaabout the running of the W8lltad about the rum for sale in an Oklahomanewspaper.

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Ke:"l:· ~U:-~;.'-=:::- st et.ed ~::-.et .i<e ;-e.,.e:':.ec ':'.t Peredise c..•er:,int: tJrscr.el ur:tilt .•e :'c·llo;':iJ:~ ~t·~:<:t1:1. t:t ·;:,;-ic.: -.l~e ..e .-e ce ived wort :~ro=~~es tc: ccc.e toi.lAll::.rio::a Ci tYi tilAt he ~ert ursohel ~o De guardri by ArmOneDd R. G. Shannon, drowto OklahollBCit)' and met Bates; that Bates told him the Urllobela ware ready to payand that Kirkpatriok and CatleU would oatch a DV train out ot OklahomaCity on~turday night with the money in a grip. lie stated that Bates caught tl precedingtrain for the purpose ot goiDg to a station on the Katy line ebout 100 miles northof OklahomaCity, where he was to wait for Kelly; that he, Kelly, drove'to thesecond ton above Oklahom!lCity where h,e ni ted tor tho lOlty train on whichKirkpatrick and Catlett were ridIng; that wben the train stopped at this station,he boarded it with the statement to the conduotor that he was looktng for a friendand under this pretext observed catlett and Xlrkpatrick with two grips on the rearend of the observation car; that it wes agreed Bates would repeat this s~e pro-cedure when the train passed through the town.where Bates was located; t~t fromwhat he, Kelly, saw, be was satisfied there were no otticers on the train and thatKirkpatrick and catlett we1'8no~b&1-B&gwlr4e4. £§lly -'further .,tate4--that ·atter ..-- --the tre.i.n had lett the tirst .ta~ion, he drove on to tl;le town where Bates was watt ..•ing; that atter sending Cl telegram to the Itlehlbaoh Rotel in DnBaa City, explainingthat they had been delayed and would e.rrlve late the following ~, h, and Bat••then draTe to n.naas City. erri TU\g on the atterDoon or Su.n4a1',My ~th. lie

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Kelly stated that u~n arrivinb et K~~8~S City, ~oth ~e and Eates ~ere:!·.)solutel;,rpos i -:;~·.-e:;e.tlett z-LdKir~~I;::~.i:~:'\';~re not beilo€;::'<;:;'lo:,ec.t;.Li(~ :;.~t ...;~eo~!"icere .vere nc t 011 the job; th9t he at ~i:-st plenned tc eo u;;-to t!le :-00::' 1~ tae1;~er.l~c:·. r:o:e: ·:-.r.~get t ae :~i~;~eJ·t ':.;~'t it ".·~s~ecid.ed t~e; tr.e~' '::(ju..l~~;olephc'!lf; t r.e

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;'';;0,'. ::o:~·i;::!';e"t.;:e;.;!i~ bring tile grip r;!.tL the money 6.o.••.n on the street" lit;; says~tet he sat in th~ car w1th e mach1ne gun ~h1le Bates went across the street andgot the griPi that no one else waa with them; that immediately at'ter obta:1nillgthe grip tull ot money they drove le1au.re17 out ot JDmsaa 01 t;r and h~ade4 backfor _Paradis •• Tems; that on the road between Dnaae 01t1and Paradlle, thel"counted the b\.uidl~8or money,-riJi~1"ng'in·paclcage.·ot·-PO"OOO~ eij:~at heto'olefive of these packages and Bate. took rive, each thuB receiv1Dg 4100,000. Kellyturther adm1 tted that he telephoned the Shannon tarm and talked with lOithrynKelly, his w1re, and gave her a cassage to deliver to ~old man~ Shannon to theetfect that they would not return until the following day. He cla10ed this call~as =ade on sunday. JUly 30th, but refused to state where it was made.

Keliy stated that he and Bates arrived at the Shannon tar.m the Mondayfolloning reoeipt of the ransom in Kansas City; that they immediately drove U~achelto a point near Norman, Oklahoma, nhere he was released. Kelly says ttat at thispoint he and Bates parted and he did not see Bates aga1n until he arrived inMinneapolis.

Kelly said that whe~ he :returned to the Shannon farm efter releasingUrSChel, Kathryn weB there. that she had no clothes with her except a house-:':-<::0':::; :r.<;t ;.e '_5::~C. be:-"';;;-:..;o7:1:!".hi.r: 1:: ._!:~ lC ·:~':1L:e~ .::·_~::lf:c to ;.:~:..llee~ol1s,.. _ ~ .;.~ :..:.sis":t:d C~;:~:....·:.;e!r•.;,; '.~.~:'::'. c;: 70rt ·••.c!"'t!: :"'cr t~;e ;-·~,,:,!'"~:·o!:e~.~ ~ :.i--.Li::ing., -= :.-.. : .. -:5. Ke:l:; s"i'~ :!1'· t, :!~ :; •sLs t ed -;;.<. ~ -~"'t1: le!!ve t t I.l...ce :':',c. -.:.5.0; <;.uitean argument caued betwe.n him and Kathryn aDd the ShSDtlOn.e, but that he ar.dKathryn leM immed1atoly in the Cadillac ror the TWin C1 t1es.

a. further stated that upon arr1val 111 Omaha, Nebraska, they stoppedovernight at the Fontanelle Hotel as R. G. Shannon end wife. Tha next day theysterted fer the Twin Cities and upon arrival in st. paul, registered as R. O.ShaLnon al-t\wite at the Hotel st. paul. The next day he says they went tollinneapolis, where they registered under the same 1l.w:lO at the Hotel Sher~n.~lly fUrther steted that he saw Bates 111 ~nneapoli8, who was registered at theHotel aadd1son.

I Kelly stated ~hat the Government had under arrest the wrong men 1nt. St. paul: that they were only "small try" and knew nothing about the Urschel

kidnaping. that while in the Twin C1ties he personally passed' at various banks~2,ooo. or the ransom money; tbat he uso turned over to "the Big Shot" o~ theTw1n Cities $7,000. of the ransom money. with the understanding that this party,whom he reru •• d to name, would receiv. ~ tor exchanging it. Ee elaims that hebaa not ~t rooei ved hie part ot th& good mouey. Be turther stated that this

, $7,000. was turned over to the rarty in the TWin C1ties with the understanding thati:. y;oula be excna ;:,e;edtar cugh the ;~ediUI:l of a CanadIan liq,uor deal.'

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Kelly stated that one night .nile at the Hotel Cleveland, he noticed1n the paper an article about the reoovery of scnDe of the Urschel ransom coney inthe' THn Cities 'elid-tha'tne tittemptn to "~eh-'over ·the-'Ul.ipllOne-C·¢ert6Dl p·a.rtyin st. Paul, whom he refused to name. He stated, however, that this man was notthe party to whom he had given the 17,000., but was a contact from whom he couldget news as to what was happening.' He failed to reach this party that night but

i bec~e alarced and left the following day for Chicago for the purpose or "d1tching"I the Cadillac. Upon arrival in Chicago, Kelly end his wife did not stop at a hotel! but stored the Cadillac car with a friend there and purchased a new Chevrolet from

an unknown dealer. In this Chevrolet thsy proceeded to Des MOines, Iowa, wherethe~ registered under the name of Coleman at the Fort DeB ~ineB Hotel. Vlli11eatthis hotel the papers carried the story about the raid on the Shannon ferm and thearrest of Barvey Ba11ey. at this point Kelly explained that Harvey Ba1ley had

I absolutely no connection wi th the Urschel kldDapillg. He cla1r.ledthat when he r&--ot~rned to the Shannon farm ~~ter collecting the ransom money, he found HarveyBailey therej that Bailey wanted him to go on a job with ttm but he told Bailey hewould not be interested; that he asked Balley how he was fixed for money and Bailey:.:lL. 1'.L:. :~t:: -:;-,.; ~ro~ej ~~-; ne •.i.t:reupor.•..;.:.vE: 3e.iley ~l:JOO. o~ ;:;e U;'!i:::i,e:':':I~som:::\.ILc)" e.;.:: :,cl::: jC.ile.: t:.:,;.~ .A•• : •• e ~;.t;::no~ :"'£;':-: ..• :r..~ "hot" ':L-. ;.~~~~~"..!l·::;t~::~r:e!:,~rOIJ~:··H:re.

Kelly fur~her atated that atter reading in the papers or tile arrest ofBailey and the Shannona at Paradise. Kathryn -raised hell~ because her people w6r~in trouble and declared her intention ot returnIng immediately to Texas with aglrl friend Nho was there with her to do what she could tor her people. ~thrynthen too~ the Chevrolet car Bnd w1th her girl friend left Des ~ines for Texas.

Kelly said that he immediately boarded a train for Oklahone City endupon arrivel in Oklahoma City, hid out with a friend of hie, whom he refused toname, that be remained in the hideout tor about a week after his errival on~uescia~',AUEust 15th; that when he left Oklahoma City he went to south 'rexss forthe purpose of buying a car. He refused to state the place where the bOUbht thiscar but claims that after purcb.aa1ng a new Chevrolet, he headed for llew Orlee.na,where he stayed with a friend. '1PrCllllHe .• Orleana 'he went to"Blloxi; 1.rtu1ssipp1, ..~'--where he registered at the Adalon Botel under the name or j. L. Baker. From theAdalon Hotel he proceeded to the Tourist Botel also in B110Xi, where he registeredunder the same~. He bad with him a 45 automatic pistol. One day while stand-

j 1ng 0D:a ,atre.~ oorner,th.e ..~!S~7 c.r~ed.out: ••• c~ Gun Xal17 in town.,- whereupon he lcnedlate~y left tor ~mphis by bus; deserting his car end baggage.

U;Jon errl vel in Met:!ph1s, Kelly says he got 1n touch with Lengfo::-c RE.msey, Lisbrct~er-in-law, who made arrangements for h1m to h1deout at the home of J. R.~·icller.or. He s-:;.;:she stared t:.ere fer e.bout 3 roeek, curing w~ich t1l!i!:! :-,e ,::>(,1,;g:;:t:'ro::J'iichenor a Yord Coupe end a 45 automatic pistol.

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~inile i1. :·':em?t1sKelly cla1:.:.s that he received Toordt.het Kathryn c<"l:.ldbe tlBt 1n san Antonio, Texas at a certa1n address end that he proceeded 1n the~--~ . .&~;r:1 J'ord car ~warc1a san Antonio, .~opp1ng en route at the t~ ot; oa- Coleman near

r, . ColtllllUl,~em.. where he burleit 1n a ootton tield near acme me.qui to trees thei.:2 ,_.._ b.~e ..pt.~~~tl:.~~CP-IIODe.Y which he had .in his pou.•it.1oa.. Be aek.d_.~._··_. . muohre.n.om money bad been 1'0I1l14 and Jie .•• told thai the sum recovered e.mountad

to $73,250. Be stated this waa absolutely correct.

At san Antonio, according to Kelly, lO!thryn was driving a Ford truckana l7as wear1:ag a red wig. He also had dyed hhha1r and eyebrows. He claimsthat the Ford truok was given to a tr1end er theirs 1n Te:ms and that in the Fordcar ~e proceeded to st. Louis, UlSBOuri, where it was .tored and he purchased anew Chevrolet; that 1n the Chevrolet he proceeded to Chicago and while in Chicago,between September 20th and 2211d,he got in touch with Verne U1l1er and they malSethe mutual egresc8nt that Urschel and ~arr8tt would be killed. He a180 statedthat wh11e in Chicago he called. who told him to keep away tram h~that he was Whot"; that he wouldntt be seen talking to htm tor $10,000. Kellydenied t.bat he had any pert 1n the robbery ot Federal Reserve mes8engera on themorning of Friday, September 22Dd.

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:.::.: .. Cf: ~75,OOO.Kelly refused to atate whether Illthr)'n went with him to Chicago but

stated that he tind Kathryn lett Chicago on the morning or Friday, .september 22nd,at ebout 9:00 or g:30 A.M. and drove through to ~~mphis, where they tigain sto?pedat the Tichenor home.

---------1l should be stated that ticcordiug to Kelly the daughter ot41111111111111'eft S8nAnton10 with them, wae with them in Chicago and elso ac-companied them to ~mph1s.

Kelly refused to mke any further stated. It was prE!seLted to himthat it his story that the ShallllOllShad no previous kno1de~e of the kidnap1ngwere true, that he ehoul·d diTulge: ·1'1rn·;~.lWii8orthe· ""o1"d~1.t· to1rhon-_·- ._-plaee he had intended takiDg QNOHl.; 8l1d s.cond, the na.meof the OklahOI:laC1ty go-:- .between wo arranged with ~arre" to ·put the tiDger- on Ur8ohel. Be refUsed todo this unt1l he had consulted coun.ael.

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!it :,e':- l:o":.e i. ;.'".;.,;.,,:-t:'lI :·..::8S. ::;:.~ s'tu te d tl.c.'t. sone t~.ree weel:s ';)ricr' "':'(:;l'e~ober hus~LdJ.t:C':-~e ~.:~::left Fort ·"orth wi ta the statelllbnt that he wa~ going to

,';""">'. OklahomaC1tr on a job, that -aile had .DO knowledge ot h1s plana; tmt u promised. ::'.; to wr1te her but did not. She a~~.~t~~ins .tc?~~~ ~~.~~ tlle wife ot. ~~",'·f __ . __Ji.r1aaa~~a ~ h1~_c.~~!.drentIS hi!':' Iiciaa .in ror~,··.OfjJ.l.·but~·~:t.r~ 1;~t' sh.

'. .. . ~preTioual,. prcmf"aed to do thh tor them and that her removal ot thsm from theSballllOnrarm had no connection with the kidnaping. She .claimed that when she read1n the newspapers or the kidnaping of Mr. Urschel at Oklahoma City. she immediatelyassociated this crime witt her husband, George, because she knew he was here. Shesaid that ahe then went to ?~:-adlse. Texas with a'girl friend and upon arrival therefound ner steprether and mother in a very uorried condition. She said that hersteyrett.~r took her aBide and told her that her husband and Bates had brought adrunk man there nnd that they hed found out that he was Ur. Urschel who had beenkidnaped in OklahOJ18CUr; that tbe kidnaped tl8.nwas then down at .Armcn's place.Kathryn Kelly further stated that she thereupon ?roceeded to Armon Shannon's house,.celled George Kelly out and "raised hell" with h~ for plAying this trick on herpeople. According to her statement ahe then returned to Fort Worth, got rid of hergirl ~riend eud returned t~ ?aradise; that sbe was in Pa:-sdise when Kelly telephonedfroo soz.e u;Ua.o,,n plece on the rainy Sunday - the day before llr. Urschel was re-leased - end gave her lnrorr.;8~ion t!lat he would be beck the next day. t:athryn Kelly

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She further stated that Kelly and Betes returned to the Sh8nllOUfanl ontae follov;ing Monday6.lld took lJr. Urschel away, that George then came back to the .SnaDllOnferm alone and insisted that she go with him 1mmadiately to Minneapolis in';;(;r cedillac. She claimed thcot she had no clothes witb ::'er e::-:~eptthe hou sedr-ese~he was wQaring and after at first refusiug to go with him - but beins ordered to go -she iDs1s~ed thet he take her by Fort Worth 50 she could get 80~ additional clothes.According to her statement. he re1'used to do this. but forced her to leave \.i th him~ediately 1'0:- Uinneapolis. She says that en route to ~nn6apo11s they stopped attue ~otel Fontenelle at Omahaas Mr. and urs. R. G. Shannon; that upon arrival at;.j:. paul :ile~' ":'e:£ist~r~d under tile same :l8llle et tile Hotel st. paul; that they E.r-r ived at this hotel in the afternoon and after lying across the bed for a rew:J;inutes, George left and ~sgoI1!,_Wlt1J, .lat_e.._~~at.~J.ghl;; ~~.1~_~~_t.9U.o",.1~d,y ..t4ey_proceeded to ~nneapolis, where they registered as ~. and ~s. R. G. Shannon attoe Rotel Sherman; that they aaw Bates 1n JI1nne&po118at the Bo~ Ba4disonj thatatter a rew days they left the TWinCiti •• tor CleTeland, ~her. they 5topped ror aIShort time at the Hotel Cln.lan4i that while t~.:t:e George ~., .~lng tQ b~.fl

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et t~~e iort Je3 :,;oint:;;:; Hotel; ~:.!:..• ~;,~ :;;.:; iviu-:.i! ~::lE;!'eb:,' e. .:;i=l :'r1e.ld "':' ..~;·Sta.il6 7:hlle '::~ tr, is notel newspaper :-e:pClrtsbro~e coucern.1r..gthe arrest CI~1'.erparents a~~ He.rveyBailey on the Sa8pnon far.mat Parad1se. She stated that shebecamahyster1cal, ·cussed" a.org. out tor setUng her people 1nto trouble andinsisted that they lx>th return at· one. and. .U1'l'«l~ 011 the charp in Qrder to

__~l~ .her »Arent. ot tbe uaubla ..thq.~-lll. ~-~QJ9. l!f;~.11 ~G"40-~ •. -'aDd she loft in the Chevrolet 111 th her girl triend and ~ove to Dallas, whereshe got in touch 1r1th a certain triend ot her. and e.:rrtIlged tor attorneys torepresent her poople.

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Kathryn Kelly steted that wh1l~ passing through Chicago on the r.e.yfrom Cl~veland to Des MOinos, George wrote a letter to Hr. Jarrett and that sheueiled it for htm. (George Kelly later .tated that he sent this letter to~rrett from Chicago and that in 1t he discus.ed the tact that he had beenchanging the l:lOneyand would later pay htm his out - or worda to that effect.He cle1uJed it was not cailed to Jarrett direct but was included in another en-velope addru •• d to the "nnamedOlcla.hODllC1ir go-betnen.) Dthr)'n, upon beinginfo~~d to th1s ettect, attirmed its corr.ctne.a, but retused to name the go-between.

'Kathryn turther ste.ted that atter arranging tor an apertr~nt in Jellas •v..t: :~:e-;.o;·. ..::' ·..•;.icJ; s a e :"c:"..sec. 'to ciV""':-:'ce, s ne i,;O~ ~O!·c. :,,, Geo!"e;e ·.:l~e;-~t c join..d' ~.~',.;~ t ..e .Iet ..~:' ~..~:-e. ..::.e !"e~\..se-::: :v :lis close l~Er fw-t ..e!" :,~o·,re;.1er.ts\.'i th..r.;;;;:'e.ecs.ce .•.t. t c "'c.....ito -;~~ B~e uad 'oeen ';;i t4 lliw ~~ sea A.Iltol.io, i'e~s ~c. alsoat Chic8.80, n11n~the1r arrival in MBmph1s. She stated that she hoardGeorge tele;>hone~ in Ch1<:e8oand that he told her he bad seen Von.!liller there, but that ahe was not present. She turther stated that on the oc-cas10n of ner last presence In Cbicagp w1th GeorgI, she mailed a threaten1ng let~ter to ur. Jarrett at OklahomaC1ty.

It 18 to be noted that throughout the interv1ews with both George endKathryn, they made only selt-serving admissions tor the purpose of attempti~ toshow the lack ot prev10us knowledge ot, the k1dnap1ng on the part ot the Sbannonsand Kathryn Kelly. '

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