igboland and the challenge of boko haram in the shadow of history : between negative profiling and...

8/12/2019 Igboland and the Challenge of Boko Haram in the Shadow of History : Between Negative Profiling and Necessary

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Chika Omeje

If the Imo state police commissioner allegedly ''shielded 6 BokoHaram bombers arrested at the Owerri church'' as ILoT claims,how would supposedly sane old men not ask that the very sameImo police commissioner be investigated or redeployed?

Why ask that the ones in Abia,Anambra,Ebonyi and Enugu beimmediately juggled and redeployed simply because they sharethe same ethnicity/religion with the one in Imo?

There is medication/cure for Boko Haram induced paranoia.Weneed to get it!!!

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RemoveChika OmejeTo this end, the command further wishes tomake it categorically clear that there was no explosion either inIgboeze North or any other part of the state as beinginsinuated/rumored.

Following the alarm of explosion, the command mobilized its Anti-bomb operatives to the arena promptly where it was discovered to befalse.

The command also views it in strong terms as a calculated attempt by

some mischief makers to cause unnecessary panic and fear in theminds of other law abiding citizens of the state.

The command will not take it lightly with any one caught infusing fearand panic through false alarm in the state. Members of the public areadvised once more to go about their normal lawful businesses in thestate as the state command in partnership with other sister securityagencies in the state is working round the clock with a view to ensuringthe security and safety of the citizens in the state.http://dailypost.ng/.../enugu-police-insists-bomb-


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blast.../Enugu Police insists there was no bomb blast in Ogrute -DailyPost Nigeriadailypost.ngThe Enugu State Police Command hasdismissed as untrue recent reports of a bomb explosion in the state.Some online platform had on Saturday reported of ex Yesterday at09:26 Like

RemoveKevin Okereke EdwardLolYesterday at 09:31 Like

RemoveJoke CeejayOdiegwu.Yesterday at 10:00 Like

RemoveIbrahim CiromaIronically, Chika Omeje, none of the so called"6 shielded Boko Haram" is from the North. Also, the 468 "suspectedBoko Haram members" were not travelling in "convoy" as being toutedby news media. Their vehicles were actually stopped one at a time andthe occupants detained until 468 Northerners and 35 vehiclesconveying them were detained. But the information being peddled wasthat they were travelling in a convoy of 35 vehicles just give theimpression of a sinister motive. Just imagine 468 Northerners travellingin the middle of the Night towards the East in a convoy of 35 vehicles!Imagine the kind of thoughts that would pass through people'sminds!Yesterday at 10:10 Edited Like 1

RemoveKalu Akaraka FridayThe country at war withherself..Yesterday at 10:21 Like 1

RemoveRemi AdeoyeEven at the time of arrest, it was stated thatthey were only taken for questioning with a view to unraveling identitiesof perpetrators of the crime, not that they were complicit. Thosearrested are people who have reasons to be where they were found.

Ndigbo leaders would have simply visit the CP in his office to get firsthand brief on the matter before drawing conclusions. It will be a


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dangerous trend to agitate for only Igbos to be CPs in South Easternstates. Most of the CPs there have performed creditably and that iswhat is in the best interest of the people. Not where the CPs hailfrom.Yesterday at 10:37 Like 2

RemoveNdubuisi Blessed NgozikaChika nothing happing at igboeze north been Enuguezike is only dat tipper loadder with sand explodeat ekeozzi makert.Yesterday at 10:38 Like 1

RemoveMohammed HusainRemi Adeoye: note they were kept forone week in single room and fed poor once a day....some weresavagely beaten....thats the same as accusation.Yesterday at 10:50 Like

RemoveMohammed HusainTit for tat is the most simple thing to do:redeploy officers of northern origin then get the same ultimatum fromthe north ...Yesterday at 10:53 Like

RemoveIbrahim CiromaMohammedHussain, it was worse thanaccusation, they were adjudged guilty!Yesterday at 11:05 Edited Like 1

RemoveRemi AdeoyeMuhammed what is your source? Yesterday at11:05 Like

RemoveRemi AdeoyePolice dont detain in a room. They detain in acell and a cell is usually much bigger than a room.Yesterday at 11:06 Like 1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaThe victims themselves narrated their ordealsthemselves and they had various degree of injuries on theirbodies.Yesterday at 11:07 Like

RemoveRemi AdeoyeBut it has been pointed out that none of themwas from the north. Are you refering to a different incident other thanthe attempted bombing of the Owerri church?Yesterday at 11:10 Edited Like 1


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RemoveIbrahim CiromaRemi Adeoye, no police cell is big enough toaccommodate 468 people conveniently. They detainees narrated thatthey had to take turns to sit because it was not possible for all of themto sit at once. They urinated and defecated on their bodies becausethey were not allowed to go to toilet. They were fed only once a day. Itwas horrific experience. 23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveChika OmejeThe flow of information on the activities ofsecurity agents is so skewed.The police said that 5 out of the 6arrested in connection with the Winners Chapel attempted bombing areforeigners.I don't know where these old men got the idea of them being''shielded'' by the CP23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveRemi AdeoyeIbrahim Chiroma we are talking of two differentthings. I am talking about the six arrested in Owerri in connection withthe attempt to bomb a church.

In any case it is not possible to squeeze 486 people into one roomeven if all of them stand for one whole week. 10 by 10 feet room willonly contain 100 if they all stand touching one aother!23 hours ago Edited Like 2

RemoveChika OmejeSpot on Remi.Most people have gonecompletely paranoid.Very few from the two region would want to sitdown and think through what they hear.How can 486 be squeezed intoone room?There were some women suspects too beacuse i read thatJigawa had taken 144 of them back to Dutse,6 women amongthem.They didnt lockup the men and women together Mallam IbrahimCiroma?Meanwhile it was the army's 144 Battalion near Aba thathandled the case of the travelers.23 hours ago Edited Like 1

RemoveRemi AdeoyeNonetheless, I want to be clear that thesuspects could have been better handled. Dignity of persons mustalways be accorded suspects against who no clear evidence ofwrongdoing has been established. If what Ibrahim Chiroma narratedapart from the squeezing into a room aspect which is not possible, thenI feel for those innocent Nigerians.23 hours ago Like

RemoveMohammed HusainSorry Chika Omejedo not dismiss theirstory, it cannot simply be dismissed.....it may mean they put them in a


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larger room....23 hours ago Like 2

RemoveRemi AdeoyeYeah Mohammed Hussain. Probably we shouldcall it a hall.23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveChika OmejeThey have no doubt been treated badly.I believeanyone who get detained in a cell in Nigeria would have horrific tales totell especially in a military detention facility.I dont believe the 486 werearrested in one convoy.They must have been picked up in a checkpointthat lasted all night or more.I have problem with informationmanagement on the part of the government and believe some in theFG/PDP may be exploiting the region with BH for political gains.Someonline news platforms went ahead with the news that a bomb explodedin an Enugu market yesterday.It turned out explosion was occasionedby a different hazard altogether.I am particularly irked by the so calledIgbo Leaders of Thought agitation to have the CPs removed and bringin the ones from SW,SS or SE.That is an acute symptom of paranoia.23 hours ago Like 2

RemoveMohammed HusainSo what? It was apparent that the stategovt played a hand in it. Political kudos for a governor that rescued hisstate from boko hoards abi? Helleluyah! Do not dismiss it offhandedly

Chika Omejebecause we are contending with its reciprocal aftermath.You may be in foreign land but you know very well politicalpersecutions are retaliatory in Nigeria. I do not wish it but,facts. I meanIbos were neither happy with that Lagos deportation. Next is visa fornortherners abi?23 hours ago Edited Like

RemoveMohammed HusainSorry ignore time warps in my reply. I didnot see ur post before the above @ Chika.23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveChika OmejeNoworries mate.I doubt if the Abia stategovernment had a hand in the 486 arrest Mohammed Husain.I suspecthowever but cannot prove that some politicians in Abuja is using theBH scare to sway opinions in the SE.There is a deliberate attempt tocreate the impression that the BH and their''janjaweed'' party is comingto the SE in order to sway public opinion toward 2015.23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveChuma OkoronkwoThe truth is Boko haram is making Seriosefforts to infiltrate the south east........ And only a fool will stand by and


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watch his people killed in cold blood........... What the elder see, sittingdown, children cannot see standing up............. On this particularoccasion, I support Igbo elders.23 hours ago Like

RemoveChika OmejeThe police too may have used ''5 foreigners and1 Nigerian'' suspect in the Owerri attempted bomb as a diversionarytactics just as they denied the Lagos bomb explosion was from afemale suicide bomber.23 hours ago Like 2

RemoveChika OmejeSome elders are so blind they hardly see what isbeyond their nose and in front of them.23 hours ago Like 2

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiIt is only a stupid person who will notentertain some level of paranoia over the activities of this particularterrorists group with the real threats they pose against innocent citizensof Nigeria and Ndi Igbo in particular.

Our people said that watchfulness is not fear. Security consciousnessis the sole reason why they have not succeeded in igbo land evenwhen Lagos, ile ife and abuja have fallen victims. Chika Omeje, as yougo on liking the comments of Ibrahim Ciroma, Remi and others who areplaying down the level of real threats posed by this boko haramites,

just ensure that your conscience is clear should any bomb explode andpeople die as a result of hearkening your call for nonchalance towardsthe threat of boko in the east? 23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveMohammed HusainHmmmn, madmen on both sides. Theabove one is making logic for preemptive strike. So far not a singleterror attack in Imo. If there is any(god forbid), the north is in noposition to prevent it just as they are unable to stop it in the north.23hours ago Edited Like

RemoveChika OmejeOn the contrary Emeka Egoigwe Osi, the ILoTagitating for the CPs to be redeployed as a measure to check BH is initself another security threat.Why cant you see that? 23 hours ago Like 1

RemoveMohammed HusainEmeka Egoigwe Osi everyone is onsome level of paranoia. But a reasonable level of paranoia is what weadvise.....so if the views of Ibrahim Ciroma, Chika OmejeandMohammed Husaincoincide, how would it by any chance lead to


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people dying as a result of Chika's 'hearkening' of calls fornonchalance? The three of us you see hear atimes agree and disagreeas we see issues, so please join us or get use to it.23 hrs Like 2

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe Osi#Mohammed, you see boko haram hasbeen having a field day in the north simply because almost the wholenorth or at least your leaders are fully in support of their activities andthey feel very comfortable with the wanton loss of innocent lives goingon there. Let's tell ourselves the truth, it's as simple as that. Yourgovernors, your religious leaders, your opinion leaders and even theaverage northern youths on the streets are very comfortable with theterrorists group hence their recurrent senseless and unpatrioticutterances where it concerns the efforts at curbing terrorism by the govtat the centre.

So don't lecture me on security and most importantly, don't equate theirunchecked activities in the north with what will happen in the eastshould they succeed in extending their activities there. If the easterngovts and communities without any major support from the federal govtcan nip the crime of kidnapping, armed robbery and other social vicesin the bud, what makes you think terrorism will thrive in the east theway it has gone unchallenged in the north?

We are just two different people with different values. We value our

lives and security and we don't engage in religious extremism the wayit is done in the north.23 hrs Edited Unlike 1

RemoveDanny OkoBut even if the detainees were maltreated by thesecurity agents (which of course the agents have categorically denied),why are some people deliberately packaging the allegation as if thesaid maltreatment was meted out by the people of the SE? Were the'maltreating' security agents south-easterners? I can sense that thesinister motive behind the deliberate exaggeration and outright

distortion of what the detainees actually went through, is to justify abloody retaliation. Northern politicians and elites are already ratchetingup the rhetoric. With the hindsight of history, the Federal Governmentshould better be on alert to provide adequate security for the lives andproperty of easterners and other vulnerable citizens living in the north.The advent of terrorism in Nigeria has made it justifiable for securityagents to resort to profiling of citizens in order to prevent attacks. It's aglobal standard practice.23 hrs Edited Unlike 3

RemoveMohammed HusainI say the Boko thingy is beyond what youthink it is, Emeka Egoigwe.23 hrs Unlike 1


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RemoveChika OmejeBoko Haram is a threat to Chika Omeje,EmekaEmeka Egoigwe Osi,,Mohammed Husain,, Ibrahim Ciroma,RemiAdeoye,,the 5 Police Commissioners in the East,the public.It isimportant we be mindful of this at all times. BH get one of those theILoT is asking to leave,they will celebrate it just as they would celebratedropping a bomb in Enugu,Onitsha or Owerri.23 hrs Like

RemoveMazi MmonuFood for thought....the Madalla bombingmastermind Kabiru Sokoto escaped/allowed to escape/helped toescape by a certain Commissioner of Police Biu. Hmmm...I am stillthinking...23 hrs Edited Like 1

RemoveMohammed Husain.....And alot other places, if they could.23hrs Like 1

RemoveChika OmejeThen Commissioner Biu was hunted down toowhen he was implicated in Kabiru Sokoto's escape.Nobody witch-hunted other police commissioners just because of Biu's actions..23hrs Edited Like 1

RemoveVictor Onyeka-BenWhat is the rationale for the same idiotsredeploying Igbo police officers en masse to the their boko haramdens?23 hrs Like

RemoveAfam B. C. NnajiDon't mind them. People just wake up andstart making ridiculous and illogical demands.23 hrs Like 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiChika Omejeyou may be right on thatnote of who is at risk, but again you may be entirely wrong. Remember,the five police commissioners or some of them may be members of orat least sympathizers of the terrorist group like wise Mohammed andIbrahim but I on the other hand am not and can never be. So, pardonme if I don't fall for that logic.23 hrs Edited Like 1

RemoveMohammed HusainSuch exasperation! Commissioner Biuand others who are general handymen of this PDP government oftenget away scot free, Mazi Mmonu.23 hrs Like


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RemoveMohammed HusainEmeka! Emeka Egoigwe Osi! Even if youdid not get the best side of this debate, I am still not wise. I learn alotfrom people and have been wrong here.23 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveAgha EgwuChika Omejeand you need to get a cure for thisyour over liberal mindedness. There is fear and paranoia and it is real.After 9/11 in US and 7/7 in UK every single Arab entering a plane wasprofiled. Profiling is a necessary scientific way of reducing probabilities.I think people have to be persuaded that such profiling is normal ratherthan be persuaded not to profile because that is irrational andimpossible.. To tell you the truth I am now terrified of any young manwith a black circle on his forehead (the Muslim mark of prayer) andcarrying a box or bag in any crowded place. To tell me not to beterrified of such situation is because you are NOT here facing thebombs. I cannot now stand near a woman (or man) in a Burka in anycrowded [place in Nigeria. I physically vant do it. Even Northerners areprofiling northerners and you expect Southerners to be immune?UNREALISTIC.23 hrs Unlike 3

RemoveMohammed HusainBut calling me BH sympathiser wasbelow the belt, Emeka. All you need do is scroll my previous posts on

the boko people.23 hrs Unlike 2

RemoveChika OmejeVictor,it is routine police posting i suppose.As atlast year when i checked CP Patrick Egbuniwe of Yobe or GodfreyOkeke of Adamawa are still in their commands.They have not undulyroutinely overstayed .23 hrs Like

RemoveChika OmejeEmeka Egoigwe Osi,how do you ascertain whois a BH sympathizer?In names?23 hrs Like

RemoveMohammed HusainChika Omejein context of Agha Egwu wehave to concede that this level of subjectivity is real. The question ishow do we do it in a country like Nigeria where all citizens feel thecertain levels of fear irrespective of religion, region or tribe? The otherday someone knocked on my door by 2.0 am. I thought, Boko Haram.@ Agha Egwu how do we profile? 23 hrs Unlike 1


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RemoveIbrahim CiromaSometimes I find it extremely difficult torespond to people like Emeka Egoigwe #Osiwhen they makeuninformed assertions like these. Emeka, does it make sense to youthat people will kill themselves and destroy their means of livelihoodsbecause they hate someone? Or are you implying that only Igbos and

Christians are being killed? Where were you when the Governor ofBorno State, Kashim Shettima ran to Mr president and informed himthat the Boko Haram terrorists seem to be better armed and bettermotivated than our military and that there was need to upgrade theirarmaments for them to be able to confront the monster called BokoHaram? What did the President do? He sent his attack Dogs after theGovernor and even made jest of the Governor during one of his mediachats. Is the same President not asking for $1 billion now to buyarmaments for the military? Did General Minima, the Chief of ArmyStaff not accept that the military is not armed enough to confront the

Boko Haram menace?What do you want Northern leaders and Governors to do when theydon't control Nigeria's armed forces? What do you do when thecommander-in-chief does not show sufficient commitment to deal withthe menace? Do you know how many prominent religious leaders andNorthern leaders that spoke against the Boko Haram that were killed?Did you know how many Towns and Villages were destroyed and thenumber of people killed? Emeka, for goodness sake don't talk onissues you know nothing about. All these trash about Northernerspromising to make Nigeria ungovernable for Jonathan is nothing but

looking for a facade to explain away Government failure to curtailsecurity threats!22 hrs Edited Like

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe Osi#Mohammed, you miss my point, I'm notactually saying you are a sympathizer. All I'm saying is that based onyour name, tribe and religion, you could be and that's where profiling isnecessary to exonerate you otherwise people will definitely be afraid ofyou even when they don't mean to. In fact it is in your interest to haveall potential members profiled and vetted that way you separate thegrains from the chaffs.23 hrs Edited Like 1

RemoveChika OmejeIn Agha Egwu's context the need for profilinghas never gone beyond unknown members of public.Profiling is usefulin the fight against terrorism but at no instance had a public figure orsenior police officers been profiled as terrorist sympathizers without asingle shred of evidence.That will be sabotage and lowering the moraleof security service members.The fight against terrorism is a collectiveone.One we start pointing accusing fingers at innocent people or thosewho are in the fight with us,we are inadvertently sabotaging thatfight.23 hrs Edited Like


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RemoveAgha EgwuIbrahim Ciroma hold your fire. You are askingrational questions in a highly irrational context. In this situation I wouldrather suspect EVERY NOTHERNER and move out of the way than tryto be politically correct and get blown up. If you hear what happened inEFAB Plaza you will understand. It was just a normal Northerner tryingto gain entrance. He was just being queried by the security in his car.He was laughing and asjing strange questions then Baaam!!! They allblew up. Sebi if I had profiled the guy I will be abused sebi... ThisOgwuche guy that ws extradicted. How normal does he look. He hasthe Muslim mark on his forhead. That is the best profiling forfanatics.23 hrs Like

RemoveChika OmejeSo it is right to profile GEJ,as a creek-basedmilitant or militant sympathizer because he wears the bowler hat AghaEgwu?23 hrs Edited Like

RemoveAgha EgwuMohammed Hussein why are you asking meabout profiling as if I am an expert CID officer. Its irrational superstions.I profile i this manner. Muslim black mark (devout, extreme or fanatic),with Beard (definitely extreme or fanatic), looking deadly serious(fanatic) bla bla bla. Nice stereotypes. But Boko sometimes comes

dressed in Executive suits anmd Jeeps. So much for profiling.23 hrs Like

RemoveAgha EgwuChika Omejestop being rationally silly. If I go tothe creeks I will have my stereotype profiles and Jonathan is not one ofthem. Probably eagle-eyed lean and hungry looking mean types. Howdo I know? That's the point. It's totally irrational. A...See More23 hrs Like

RemoveMohammed HusainAnd how feasible is it politically, AghaEgwu? 23 hrs Like

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe Osi#Ibrahim, I'm not unaware of thegenuine challenges facing the army, but that's not the reason whythey've been very unsuccessful in this fight. The major reason is lack ofsupport from the northern leaders and masses. And then there issabotage from the northerners in the military and governments. Theirincessant utterances in support of boko haram prove my point.22 hrs Unlike 1


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RemoveMohammed HusainEducation: Fortunately security forcesuse the following in catching them. 1. Former BH members 2. Triggermarks 3. Provocative words....22 hrs Edited Like

RemoveAgha EgwuThanks Mohammed Hussain, I will now addTrigger Marks tio my arsenal of stereotypes and probabilities - yea andalso provocative words.22 hrs Like 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiThe earlier the northern leaders realisethat they watered the seed of terrorism by their indifference to the

killing of Ndi Igbo and Christians at their formative stage, the better forthem. Now there is no Igbo man in the hot spots and the number ofChristians has declined and the Frankenstein's monster has comehome to roost and they are trading blames? This is the very reasonwhy we are paranoid about the suspicious coincidence of all cps of theIgbo state being Hausa/Fulani Muslims. What happened to other cpsfrom other ethnic groups? Mix it up or have them all removed for weare very afraid for our lives and rightly so. It has happened before whenthe slaughter of Igbo were supervised by the authorities from this sameregion and religion.22 hrs Edited Unlike 1

RemoveChika OmejeI think we have derailed from the path ofobjectivity Agha Egwu.Asari Dokubois not lean and hungry.He was amilitant.Then Emeka Egoigwe Osiis saying there is lack of support fromthe North....how is that anobjective assessment of the situation?TheNorth is wailing that they are not getting the necessary protection fromFG,vigilantes are going into Sambisa forest with bows and arrows,thereis the civilian JTF that's so far succeeded in protecting Maiduguri.Myadvice is that we give up our prejudices and suspicions for one anotherand unite against BH which is our common enemy now.We can go

back to bickering when BH is eliminated.The Greek city states used todo that in history.They unite against a common enemy and go back tofighting each other when the enemy is gone.22 hrs Like 2

RemoveChika OmejeIf we dont do this we are finished.Completelyfinished!22 hrs Like 2

RemoveAgha EgwuMohammed Husain, Chika OmejeIbrahim Ciroma- Emeka Egoigwe is actually right here and believe me, in the contextof the fear and paranoia in Igboland Emeka is being mild. Thjere is no


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Igbo I have met who does not want those Hausa Fulani CPs out ofIg...See More22 hrs Edited Unlike 3

RemoveChika OmejeIf we dont do this we are finished.Completelyfinished!22 hrs Like 1

RemoveMohammed HusainWord.22 hrs Like

RemoveAgha EgwuChika OmejeWAKE UP. Deal with Society as itis. If you dont, society will break up. Forget this your objectivity stuff. It'sfor intellectuals The masses dont deal in objectivity, they deal in

subjectivities and superstitions. It is the skill of politicians to manage itrather than ignore it.22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveMohammed HusainAgha Eghu, he has closed it well.Nothing new to add.22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiIt will be fool hardy for us to be playingdown this real security threats. Please let any one of these people

pretending as if it means nothing tell me what he thinks will happen ifthe all the commissioners of police from all the states in the north...See More22 hrs Edited Unlike 1

RemoveAgha EgwuMohammed Husain you sound like a very openminded person so I can think with you. Chika Omejecan sometimes beoppressively idealistic though I love his otherwise incredibly curiousand creative mind.

When I first read about the 5 Hausa Fulani CPs in...See More22 hrs Edited Unlike 2

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiChika Omejecan you honestly tell methat you can really fight side by side with a potential boko haramagainst boko haram because that's what you are calling for? While it isa good call, what happens when the person you are hunting with turnsaround and tells you that your legs look like that of an antelope? Causethat's what is gonna happen when yo don't suspect potential boko

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RemoveMazi MmonuI have heard a lot of Northerners call BokoHaram the handiwork of the PDP, like Mohammed Husain just did. Is itnot by the same stretch of imagination that the leaders of thoughtpresuppose the CPs maybe BH sympathizers? Fellow countrymen withthe goings on in our nations today we have more questions thananswers and unfortunately we all suspect the other.22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaEmeka and Agha going by your logic, if youhave a group of criminals in a society then everybody in thatcommunity is branded a criminal or a potential criminal. So going byyour logic, any Easterner we see is a potential Kidnapper; any NigerDeltan we see is a potential militant or oil thief. Is that how you want usto profile ourselves?22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiEven in the absence of boko haramthreats, it is very insensitive for the inspector general of police AlhajiAbubakar to post five police commissioners from hausa/Fulani Muslimsto the five Igbo states. What of the other police commissioners from allthe other 253ethnic nationalities we have in this country? Or are wesaying only hausa/Fulani Muslims are police commissioners in thiscountry?????????22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe Osi#Ibrahimif I have to tell you that thereare Hausa/Fulani armed robbers and kidnappers in the east and northand that kidnapping and armed robberies are not on the samewavelength as terrorism, then I don't have to be continuing with thisargument.22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe Osi#Ibrahimit's funny how you call a Nigerdeltan an oil thief with a straight face? Please tell me how many Nigerdeltans own oil wells or is it because the northern military heads ofstates allotted them to northerners living 10,000miles away from thewells and don't feel the devastating effects of the exploration, you thinkthey are legitimate owners, and the real owners who had to scratchand crawl to get few drops of their God given resources are now thethieves? Hmmmmmmm!! See why we will never trust and coexist witheach other peacefully? 22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaThe irony of it all is the number of Igbos livingand doing business in the North despite the Boko Haram threat. If the


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Boko Haram threat has reached this stage of paranoia, I wonder whythe socalled Igbo leaders of thought do not evacuate them back to theEast. Emeka and Agha may be somewhere out of Nigeria in theircomfort zones making inflammatory remarks, do they and the so calledIgbo leaders of thought know that by their actions and utterances, they

are endangering their kinsmen who are living in other parts ofNigeria?22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveAgha EgwuIbrahim Ciroma save your breath on that. I amfrom Ebonyi State and I am terrified of going home. So are many otherIgbo successful people. However Kidnapping hardly ever kills. Armedrobbery hardly ever kills. You can easily survive this by how youcomport yourself. Boko kills instantly so they are not remotely even onthe same level. Nevertheless if I go home to the East I heavily profile

local young men. If you are not suspicious and careful you can fallvictim. With Boko a killer, you just have to fear almost every Northerneraround you. IT IS COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL - but it should beunderstandable.22 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaGood, Agha, that is the same reason whymany Igbos cannot go back home. The threats elsewhere is milder nomatter what you assume them to be than the threat back home andthat is the reason why they stay put where they are. According to Agha

armed Robbers don't kill, kidnappers don't kill! I rest my case. I thinkwe have reached the rubicon of irrational thinking and I am not ready tocross it with Agha and Emeka.21 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe Osi#Ibrahimit is this utterance you madenow that make us very suspicious and paranoid. You always think youhave monopoly of violence but you are wrong. Why do you think thatasking for equity and reassurances from my country endangers myrelations outside Igbo land? And when we suspect every Hausa/Fulani

Muslim of being a boko haram you wonder why? When your solution toevery thing is threats of violence, how then do you expect us to viewyou? No body is threatening any northerner in the east with violence,all we are saying is let them be vetted as peaceful citizens notterrorists.21 hrs Edited Unlike 3

RemoveAgha EgwuIbrahim Ciroma asking for Northerners to beprofiled does not threaten but protect Northern Muslims. You are free toprofile Igbo for kidnapping and baby factories. No problem. Whatever,

no Igbo will deprive any Northerner of f life or goods. But you arealready threatening Igbo property. Does that make sense? 21 hrs


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RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiCrimes are everywhere in the wholeworld even America and UK etc, but terrorism is that whole new level ofcriminality where an assemblage of serial killers organise under onestupid religious extremism to kill, maim and annihilate people be itadults, women and children alike for whatever stupid reasons theyfancy.

Bros #Ibrahim, I will not sit here and tell you that kidnapping or armedrobberies are acceptable but our state governors and communities aretackling those vices head on and statistics show they have drasticallyreduced and people don't fear going home again, same cannot be saidof the northern govts and communities now can it? Boko haram is

thriving with the support of the northern govts and leaders as well asmasses, period.21 hrs Edited Unlike 2

RemoveMazi MmonuI agree with Emeka...terrorism exists wherethere is local support. Laced with religion BH successfully charmed it'sway into the hearts and homes of many deprived youths and theirfamilies.

Someone may say so kidnapping and armed robbery succeeded in the

south east because there was favorable support...I will borrow Emeka'stext and say the Governors of the region have tackled and wrestled thismenace to a minimum.

As for southerners being safe in the North that's a ruse. Since I wasborn and left the North after university the north has burned constantlyfueled by lives of many of it's visitors.

I am really tired of this trend of conversation. We been doing this foryears and still it keeps getting worse. Solutions are required.21 hrs

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RemoveIbrahim CiromaIf Northerners are out to kill and destroy Igbosand their properties, I wonder if any Igbo would be left in the North.Yes, Igbos have been the most affected whenever there is breakdownof law and order. Unfortunately, the Igbo have been victims largelybecause of their economic strength. Almajiris who are also victims ofour uncaring leaders find Igbo shops more attractive and they loot. Inthe process, people get killed and the Northerners do not support this

but mob actions are usually instantaneous and difficult to control. Thisis not an excuse but it is the reality and the security forces have not


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support any move by out leaders to secure our people, profilingincluded. They can do same to Igbos living in the north.20 hrs Unlike1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaEmeka, if Boko Haram can overrun thebiggest military formation in the North East, I wonder what else youwant Northern leaders to do! Even under state of emergency, withmilitary check points all over the place they still move around in convoyof Hilux pickups killing and maiming innocent people for hoursunchallenged! Shehu of Bama received information from a village headthat heavily armed BH were sighted heading towards Bama town andas a responsible leader, he informed the military accordingly but whathappened? Nothing was done until BH invaded the town and killedmany people for eight hours without any response whatsoever from the

military. And Bama town is only 25 minutes drive away from Maiduguriwhere the JTF headquarters is located. These people have no respectfor any leader. Attempts were made to kill Shehu of Borno, Emir ofKano and Emir of Fika by these barbaric people. All the renownedclerics like Sheikh Ja'afar Adam and Sheikh Al Banny have all paid theSupreme price for preaching against the doctrines of Boko Haram.Who else do you now expect to talk to them? I myself lost five of mycousins to these blood sucking animals and there is no single family inBorno and Yobe that has not lost at least a family member. It thereforepains me when people say we support them! How do you support

those who antagonize and kill you? The initial silence was fear notconsent.20 hrs Edited Unlike 2

RemoveEmeka Egoigwe OsiHmmmmmm! I'm very sorry to hear youlost five cousins. I lost 12 towns men in one day to boko haram inBorno state, so I know how painful it can be. My grouse withnortherners is that they are too violent and mob action and taking oflives is meaningless to them. It is not today that spilling if blood startedin the north. Before boko haram, Igbo has lost more than a million lives

in the hands of Hausa/Fulani and kanuri people for no just cause and Ihope you people are not forgetting that.

And for those who think that the demand of the Igbo leaders ispreposterous, you are very wrong and by the way no body hasattempted to answer my question of what will happen if the position isreversed and all the commissioners of police of all north east and northwest states are Igbo and Christians?20 hrs Unlike 1

RemoveChika OmejeI am done with arguing with those who's madeup their mind.It is good judgement to have the Muslim CPs in areas like


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the SE where there are no Muslims and send the Igbo ones to the BHareas.That will check any attempt to sell out as we claim.Those with novested interest go to the battleground.This demand by the said leadersis not only irrational but provocative.They can agitate for state police atthe ongoing Confab or instruct the governors to do same but asking the

CPs to be removed is very much a paranoid act.That is in no way goingto make the SE safer.It makes it more vulnerable to BH attack.20 hrs Like 1

RemoveMazi MmonuMy friend Chika OmejeI don't know whomamongst us is versed to talk down to Ben Nwabueze and othermembers of the Igbo leaders of thought. So they made one slip...thatdoes not total their credibility and their quest to answer and posequestions to a lot of issues confronting the Igbo nation. I ask that you

show some respect and disagree with the issue alone.19 hrs Unlike1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaHere is the current list of policecommissioners and their locations. Mbu was recently deployed toAbuja. http://www.nigeriapolicewatch.com/.../police-

commissioners/Police Commissionerswww.nigeriapolicewatch.comPoliceCommissionersRANKNAMECOMMANDCOMMISSIONER'S

PHONEEMERGENCY NO.Commissioner... See More19 hrs Edited Like

RemoveChika OmejeThis list may not be correct as some namesthere do not correspond with the state command .Mazi Mmonu.I dontthink i have shown anyone disrespect here.We have largely discussedissues here without the usual resort to insults and name calling.I dohave respect for Professor Nwabueze.17 hrs Like 1

RemoveAgha EgwuChika OmejeYour lack of comprehension that 5


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Hausa Fulani CPs will terrify Igbo people amaze me. Even me with allmy cosmopolitan openness was worried at such a thing at such a time.You are totally incapable of empathy because of your extremeliberalism. You expect people to be like you instead of comprehendinghow PEOPLE really are. You have to respond and govern people as

they are not as you would like them to be. Society is NOT as openminded as you are. Nothing wrong with one Hausa Fulani, One Yoruba,One Idoma, One Nupe and One Edo - is there? 16 hrs Edited Unlike2

RemoveChika OmejeAlright sir!I give up!16 hrs Like

RemoveAgha EgwuIbrahim Ciroma exactly what have I said thatvillifies the North? I will certainly not villify any group of people. I havesaid the North can profile Igbo for kidnappers and baby factorymanufacturers. No problem. What is so difficult with dealing with fact.Far far too much killing of Southerners is going on amongst NorthernMuslims - not all but a significant minority with a significant majorityturning away. Igbos were always taking for sport till they started armingthemselves. After the massacre of those that invaded the Sabon Gariduring one of the spontaneous mob pogroms (I forgot which year - Ithink Miss World masssacres) the killing in Kano has not happenedagain. The killings have continued unabated elsewhere. You blame it

on Almajiri mob action. I disagree. It is based on religion. It is ONLYTHE DEATH OF MUSLIMS that is actually taken by Northern Muslimsin a serious way. If it were not so, serious action would have beentaken to stop such mob actions.

If Boko was reversed, and the Niger Delta Militants was attacking andkiling Northerners mass killings would have started in the North. If youdoubt that, think back to 1966. Because an Nzeogwu leading Hausaand other troops orchestrated the killing of Sarduana, thousands ofIgbo were slaughtered. It was only on two occasions that Igbos

retaliated in Aba and Onitsha and stopped more killings up North for awhile.

Yet the Southerners have shown restraint on the grounds that wecannot kill others who are not responsible for other people's death.

I was born long before the war and know that other people, includingYorubas returned houses. The only people that did not return wereRivers people. In any case the fact that Northerners preserved homesis totally laughable after the slaughter of 2 million Biafrans.

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A simple discussion of profiling that protects not threaten Northernershas already been seen by you as worthy of threatening Igbo propertyand lives. That is really a shame.16 hrs Unlike 2

RemoveIbrahim CiromaIs it the Northerners that slaughtered 2 millionIgbos or the Nigerian State had fight to preserve the country and in theprocess 2 million Igbos lost their lives? Agha you have your version ofthe story, I have mine. Just keep to yours and I keep to mine, Ok? Thatway we don't have to embark on endless exchange.8 hrs Edited Like

RemoveAgha EgwuIbrahim Ciroma actually I prefer the internationalversion of the story which you can see in Wikipedia and otherGenocide sites. Northern individuals, not the whole north, slaughtered30000 in 1966 before the Nigerian State controlled by Northernersembarked on its genocide from 1966-79. The International communitycalls it genocide and you can check it on Wikipedia. I blame theindividuals involved in the slaughter not the whole North. But it is theactions of those individuals which has led to impunity in furtherpogroms because nothing serious is ever done about the constantpogroms because Northern Muslims don't really rate the killing of nonmuslin very seriously. It is military and police officers of mostly HouseFulham extraction that supervised all these. That is why Igbo will be

terrified of the 5 CPs from the same region and religion. Sorry I tend tosay truths as I believe them to be.2 hrs Like 1

RemoveIbrahim CiromaSuit yourself Agha, Facebook is free.49 mins Like

RemoveOluwatoyin Vincent AdepojuAgha Egwuis referring to theanti-Igbo pogrom in the North that led the Igbos to flee the North and

eventually forming Biafra, in response to which there was a civil war.30mins Like

RemoveOluwatoyin Vincent AdepojuChika Omeje, please forgivemy insisting on distributing this fantastic thread. The proper thing is torequest permission, but I feel the compelling need for recording of suchrich debate.29 mins Like

RemoveOluwatoyin Vincent AdepojuI also see info here I don'tseem up to date on. Can anyone help me with an authoritative link/s


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that demonstrates that the Northerners arrested in the North were nottravelling in a convoy? 25 mins Like

RemoveChika OmejeOluwatoyin Vincent Adepojuplease share anddont ask for permission again anytime you feel there is somethingworth sharing here.You have express approval.I am already tired ofthis debate because the hardliners wont move an inch from theirposition.I would want us to use our 1966-70 experience in the fightagainst BH instead od using it to further weaken us against thevandals.When they have been subdued,we can carry on as usual.17mins Unlike 2

RemoveOluwatoyin Vincent AdepojuThank you very much, ChikaOmeje15 mins Like

RemoveChino ObasiChika, the other question should be - whywould men of same ethnic group, head the 5 eastern state police command?Is it by commission or omission? Are they not supposed to be mixed? If 5 Ijawmen head police in the north east for instance, will questions even louder notbe asked?8 mins Unlike 1

Ibrahim CiromaHonestly, I find it inconceivable that the youth cannot detachthemselves from the old prejudices and forge a new United Nigeria wherethere is equal rights and opportunities for all. We have been bickering onissues that our fathers and grandfathers bickered on since independencewithout any solution in sight because most of us have become hardliners. Ok,even if as some are saying that the solution is to dissolve the Nigerian union,how are you going to divide Nigeria in its present state? Assuming Biafra iscreated for the Igbos, Arewa for the Hausa Fulani, Oduduwa for the Yoruba,

middle belt for minority tribes and Niger Delta for the various ethnic groups, doyou think the same complains of marginalization or exclusion that Nigeria isfacing will not be replicated in the new "countries"? Even in homogeneoussetting like the East, and the West can we say with certainty that we will nothave a repeat of Umuleri and Aguleri or Ife and Modal eke? Are we sure wewill not end up with Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo kind of conflict as it happened inthe early 90s? Are we sure the Niger Deltans with not fight to finish overownership of oil Wells? Are we sure we will not have similar ethnic fights inArewa and the Middle belt too?To me, every country you create out of the present Nigeria will be a

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