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  1. 1. MonashC ritical Care hildrens
  2. 2. Colloid of the YearvsOverused & Overated
  3. 3. Posm
  4. 4. Plasma InterstitialH22O H2ONa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+K+Na+Na+ATPExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  5. 5. Plasma InterstitialAlbNa+AlbNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+AlbAlbAlbExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  6. 6. Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  7. 7. Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  8. 8. AAAAAAAPlasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  9. 9. Plasma InterstitialAAAAAAAExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  10. 10. Plasma InterstitialAAAAAAAExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  11. 11. Plasma InterstitialAAAAAAAExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  12. 12. Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  13. 13. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  14. 14. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  15. 15. F = Kf [( Pvasc Pi ) ( vasc i )]
  16. 16. F = Kf [( Pvasc Pi ) ( vasc i )]
  17. 17. F = Kf [( Pvasc Pi ) ( vasc i )]
  18. 18. F = ( vasc i )
  19. 19. Posm
  20. 20. 280mmol/L 3% Saline
  21. 21. 280mmol/L 3% Saline Osm = 1027-280 = 747mosmol/L = 747 19.32mmHg
  22. 22. 280mmol/L 3% Saline Osm = 1027-280 = 747mosmol/L = 747 19.32mmHg
  23. 23. N. SalineN. Saline Osm = 40 67,000 = 0.6mosmol/L = 0.6 19.32mmHg+40gm/l Albumin
  24. 24. N. SalineN. Saline+40gm/l Albumin
  25. 25. N. Saline N. Saline+40gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin = 8/67,000 X 19.32= 2.3 mmHg
  26. 26. N. Saline N. Saline+40gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin2.3 mmHg
  27. 27. 2.3 mmHg 11 mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+40gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin
  28. 28. 2.3 mmHg 11 mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+40gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin
  29. 29. 2.3 mmHg 11 mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+40gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin = 0.8
  30. 30. 2.3 mmHg 11 mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+40gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin0.8 (11 -2.3)(vasc - i)
  31. 31. 2.3 mmHg 4.3 mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+15gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin0.8 (4.3 -2.3)(vasc - i)
  32. 32. 2.3 mmHg 4.3 mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+15gm/l Albumin+8gm/l Albumin0.8 (4.3 -2.3)(vasc - i)
  33. 33. 2.3 mmHg 4.3mmHg to 5.8mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+15gm/l to 20gm/lAlbumin+8gm/l Albumin0.8 (5.8 -2.3)(vasc - i)
  34. 34. 2.3 mmHg 4.3mmHg to 5.8mmHgN. Saline N. Saline+15gm/l to 20gm/lAlbumin+8gm/l Albumin=1.2mmHg
  35. 35. 18mmHg90mmHg10mmHg2mmHg6mmHg
  36. 36. F = Kf [( Pvasc Pi ) ( vasc i )]
  37. 37. 35 yo woman on IVF Admitted with OHSS Rx with 5% Albumin Increasing breathlessness ?PE Transported to ICU
  38. 38. Breathless, sitting uprightHR 120, BP 130/70, CVP 7 Pitting oedema to mid sterumSerum Albumin 30gm/L
  39. 39. ICU O&GDo Nothing!Diurese More5% Albumin
  40. 40. Diuresis ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Oedema & breathlessness resolved To ward
  41. 41. Diuresis ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Oedema & breathlessness resolved To ward
  42. 42. Diuresis ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Oedema & breathlessness resolved To ward
  43. 43. Volume Overload140117937047230Pressure mmHgArteriolesCapillariesVenules& VeinsArteries
  44. 44. F = Kf [( Pvasc Pi ) ( vasc i )]
  45. 45. Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  46. 46. Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  47. 47. Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  48. 48. Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  49. 49. Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Plasma InterstitialExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  50. 50. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  51. 51. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  52. 52. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+PiPiExtracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  53. 53. Na+Na+Na+Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  54. 54. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  55. 55. Plasma InterstitialNa+Na+Na+PiNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  56. 56. PlasmaNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  57. 57. Na+Na+Na+Na+PlasmaNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  58. 58. PlasmaNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  59. 59. PlasmaNa+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Na+Extracellular Fluid Intracellular Fluid
  60. 60. SomethingSomething elseO.R.1.3(0.5, 2.6)2.1(1.0,3.4)1.8(0.9,3.3)2.3(1.9,2.7)2.1(1.8,2.5)2.2(1.9, 2.4)1.0 2.0 3.0ORSmith et al 1991Jones et al 1993Smith et al 1999Ng eta 2004Chu et al 2009
  61. 61. The only colloidproven to be notworse than saline!
  62. 62. SAFE Study:Albumin vs Saline: Volume administered3000200010000Albumin SalineDay 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 41.3 1.6 1.3 1.21.4 1.6 1.3 1.4Mean RatioMean + SD