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    HISTORY TAKING&VITAL SIGN

    Dewi Kartikawati

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    Importance of HistoryTaking

    Obtaining an accurate history is the

    critical first step in determining theetiology of a patient's problem.

    A large percentage of the time )70%),you will actually be able make adiagnosis based on the history alone.

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    How to take a history?

    The sense of what constitutes importantdata will grow exponentially in future asyou learn about the pathophysiology ofdisease

    You are already in possession of the toolsthat will enable you to obtain a goodhistory.

    An ability to listen and ask common-sense

    questions that help define the nature of aparticular problem.

    A vast and sophisticated fund ofknowledge not needed to successfully

    interview a patient.

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    Introduce yourself.Note never forget patient namesCreat patient appropriately in a friendly relaxed way.Confidentiality and respect patient privacy.

    GeneralApproach

    Try to see things from patient point of view. Understandpatient underneath mental status, anxiety, irritation ordepression.Always exhibit neutral position.

    Listening

    Questioning: simple/clear/avoid medical terms/open, leading,interrupting, direct questions and summarizing.

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    Taking the history &Recording: Always record personal details:

    name,

    age,address,

    sex,

    ethnicity,

    occupation,

    religion,

    marital status,

    Record date of examination

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    Complete History Taking

    Chief complaint

    History of present illness

    Past medical history Systemic enquiry

    Family history

    Drug history

    Social history

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    Methods of Examination

    Inspection

    Palpation

    LightDeep

    Percussion

    Flatness, dullness, resonance,hiperresonance, tymphany

    Ausculatation

    Pitch, intensity, duration, quality

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    CHIEF COMPLAINT

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    Chief Complaint

    The main reason push the patient (pt) toseek for visiting a physician or for help

    Usually a single symptoms, occasionallymore than one complaints ex: chest pain,palpitation, shortness of breath, ankleswelling etc

    The patient describe the problem in theirown words.

    It should be recorded in pts own words.

    What brings your here? How can I helpyou? What seems to be the problem?

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    Chief Complaint

    Cheif Complaint (CC)

    Short/specific in one clear sentencecommunicating present/major problem/issue.

    Timing fever for last two weeks or sincemonday

    Recurrent recurring episode of abdominalpain/cough

    Any major disease important e.g. DM, asthma,HT, pregnancy, IHD:

    Note: CC should be put in patient language.

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    History of Present Illness

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    History of Present Illness -Tips

    Elaborate on the chief complaint in detail

    Ask relevant associated symptoms

    Have differential diagnosis in mind

    Lead the conversation and thoughts

    Decide and weight the importance ofminor complaints

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    Sequential presentationAlways relay story in days before admission e.g. 1 week

    before the admission, the patient fell while gardening and cuthis foot with a stone.Narrate in details By that evening, the foot became swollenand patient was unable to walk. Next day patient attendedKhorshid hospital and they gave him some oral antibiotics.He doesnt know the name. There is no effect on hiscondition and two days prior to admission, the foot continued

    to swell and started to discharge pus. There is high fever andrigors with nausea and vomiting.

    History of Presenting Complaint (HPC)

    In details of symptomatic presentationIf patient has more than one symptom, like chest pain,swollen legs and vomiting, take each symptom individuallyand follow it through fully mentioning significant negatives aswell. E.g the pain was central crushing pain radiating to left

    jaw while mowing the lawn. It lasted for less than 5 minutes

    and was relieved by taking rest. No associated symptoms withpain/never had this pain before/no relation with food/he is

    In details of present problem with- time of onset/ mode ofevolution/ any investigation;treatment &outcome/any

    associated symptoms.

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    History of Present Illness

    - Tips Avoid medical terminology and make use

    of a descriptive language that is familiar

    to them Ask OPQRST for each symptom

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    ain (OPQRST)

    Position/si

    te

    Severity how it affects daily work/physical activities.Wakes him up at night, cannot sleep/do any work.

    Relationship to anything or other bodily

    function/position.Radiation: where moved toRelieving or aggravating factors any activities or

    position

    Quality, nature, character burning sharp, stabbing,crushing; also explain depth of pain superficial ordeep.

    Timing mode of onset (abrupt or gradual),progression (continuous or intermittent ifintermittent ask frequency and nature.)Treatment received or/and outcome.

    Onset of

    disease

    Are there any associated symptoms?

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    Past Medical Illness

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    Past Medical History

    Start by asking the patient if they haveany medical problems

    Heart Attack/DM/Asthma/HT/RHD,

    TB/Jaundice :E.g. if diabetic- mentiontime of diagnosis/currentmedication/clinic check up

    Past surgical/operation history

    E.g. time/place/ and what type of operation.Note any blood transfusion and bloodgrouping.

    History of trauma/accidents

    E.g. time/place/ and what type of accident

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    Drug History

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    Drug History

    Drug History (DH)

    Always use generic name or put trade

    name in brackets with dosage, timingand how long. Example: Ranitidine 150mg BD PO

    Note: do not forget to mentionVitamins/Traditional medicine

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    Family History

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    Family History

    Any familial disease/running in familiese.g. breast cancer, DM, schizophrenia,Developmental delay, asthma, albinism

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    Social History

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    Social History

    Smoking history - amount, duration andtype. A strong risk factor for IHD

    Drinking history - amount, duration and

    type. Cause cardiomyopathy,vasodilatation

    Occupation, social and education

    background, ADL, family social supportand financial situation

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    Other Relevant History

    Gyane/Obstetric history if female

    Immunization if small child

    Note: Look for the child health card.

    Travel and sexual history if suspected STI orinfectious disease

    Note:

    If small child, obtain the history from the care

    giver. Make sure; talk to right care giver. If some one does not talk to your language, get

    an interpreter(neutral not family friend ormember also familiar with both language). Ask

    simple & straight question but do not go for yesor no answer.

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    System Review (SR)

    This is a guide not to miss anything

    Any significant finding should be moved to HPCdepending upon where you think it belongs.

    Do not forget to ask associated symptoms of PC with theSystem involved

    When giving verbal reports, say no significant finding on

    systems review to show you did it. However when writingup patient notes, you should record the systems review sothat the relieving doctors know what system you covered.

    System Review

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    System Review

    Respiratory SystemCough(productive/dry)Sputum (colour, amount, smell)HaemoptysisChest pain

    SOB/DyspnoeaTachypnoeaHoarsenessWheezing

    CardiovascularChest painParoxysmal Nocturnal Dyspnoea

    OrthopnoeaShort Of Breath(SOB)Cough/sputum (pinkish/frank blood)Swelling of ankle(SOA)PalpitationsCyanosis

    Gastrointestinal/AlimentaryAppetite (anorexia/weight change)DietNausea/vomitingRegurgitation/heart burn/flatulenceDifficulty in swallowingAbdominal pain/distensionChange of bowel habitHaematemesis, melaena, haematochagiaJaundice

    GeneralWeaknessFatigue

    AnorexiaChange of weightFeverLumpsNight sweats

    S t R i

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    System Review

    Urinary SystemFrequencyDysuriaUrgencyHesitancyTerminal dribblingNocturiaBack/loin painIncontinence

    Character of urine:color/ amount(polyuria) & timingFever

    Nervous SystemVisual/Smell/Taste/Hearing/SpeechproblemHead acheFits/Faints/Black outs/loss ofconsciousness(LOC)Muscle weakness/numbness/paralysisAbnormal sensationTremor

    Change of behaviour or psyche

    Genital systemPain/ discomfort/ itchingDischargeUnusual bleedingSexual historyMenstrual history menarche/ LMP/ duration &amount of cycle/ ContraceptionObstetric history Para/ gravida/abortion

    Musculoskeletal SystemPain muscle, bone, jointSwelling

    Weakness/movementDeformitiesGait

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    SOAP

    Subjective: how patient feels/thinks about him. How does h

    look. Includes PC and general appearance/condition ofpatient

    Objective relevant points of patient complaints/vital singsphysical examination/daily weight,fluid

    balance,diet/laboratory investigation and interpretation

    Plan about management, treatment, further investigation,follow up and rehabilitation

    Assessment address each active problem after making aproblem list. Make differential diagnosis.

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    QUESTION ?

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    Vitals Sign

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    Where are we going?

    What are vital signs?

    How do you take them?

    So, whats normal?

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    What are the vitals

    They provide information about thestatus of a patient

    Breating (Respirations)

    Pulse

    Temperature

    Blood Pressure

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    Counting Respirations

    Respiration is one inhalation andexhalation.

    Determined by counting for 30 sec, and

    multiplying by 2.

    A hand on the stomach/chest may help

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    Normal Respirations

    Adult 12-20/min

    Child 15-30/min

    Infant 25-50/min

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    Respiration Quality

    Normal

    Shallow (low tidal volume)

    LaboredUse of accessory muscles

    Flaring

    Tripod Breating Noisy breathing

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    Pulse

    Determined by counting for 30 sec andmultiplying by 2.

    Irregular pulse counted for 60 sec.

    Provides information about heart, bloodvolume and perfusion.

    Taken at a pulse point

    Dont use your thumb

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    Pulse Quality

    Normal

    Bounding

    WeakThready

    Regular/Irregular

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    Common Pulse Points

    Central Pulses

    Carotid

    Femoral

    Peripheral Pulses

    Radial

    Brachial (children under 1)

    Posterior Tibial, Dorsalis Pedis

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    Normal Pulse Rate

    Adult 60-80/min

    Child 80-120/min

    Infant 120-150/min

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    Skin

    Color

    Pink (Normal)

    Pale

    Cyanotic (Oxygen problems)

    Red (CO or heat problems)

    Yellow (Jaundice)

    Temperature

    Warm (Normal)

    Hot

    Cool

    Cold

    ConditionDry (Normal)

    Moist

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    Practice

    Get pulse andrespirations fromat least twopeople

    Try to get pulsefrom carotid,

    radial, andbrachial pulsepoints

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    Blood Pressure

    Taken withmanual orautomatic BP cuff

    Can be taken byauscultation orpalpation

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    Key Terms

    Systolic

    Pressure when

    heart is pumping Diastolic

    Pressure whenheart is at rest

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    One last note on Vitals

    First set of vitals is the baseline, you areinterested in changes

    On not sick patients, repeat every 15

    minutes On sick patients, repeat every 5 minutes

    Treat patient, not the vital signs or the

    equipment

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    Normal Blood Pressure

    Male

    Systolic = 100+age until 50

    Diastolic =60-90

    Female

    Systolic=90+age until 50

    Diastolic = 50-80

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    Practice

    Get BP from twopeople

    Try at least twotechniques forobtaining BP

    Auscultation,

    Palpation, orAutomatic Cuff

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    QUESTION?