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HISTORY TAKING&VITAL SIGN
Dewi Kartikawati
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Importance of HistoryTaking
Obtaining an accurate history is the
critical first step in determining theetiology of a patient's problem.
A large percentage of the time )70%),you will actually be able make adiagnosis based on the history alone.
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How to take a history?
The sense of what constitutes importantdata will grow exponentially in future asyou learn about the pathophysiology ofdisease
You are already in possession of the toolsthat will enable you to obtain a goodhistory.
An ability to listen and ask common-sense
questions that help define the nature of aparticular problem.
A vast and sophisticated fund ofknowledge not needed to successfully
interview a patient.
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Introduce yourself.Note never forget patient namesCreat patient appropriately in a friendly relaxed way.Confidentiality and respect patient privacy.
GeneralApproach
Try to see things from patient point of view. Understandpatient underneath mental status, anxiety, irritation ordepression.Always exhibit neutral position.
Listening
Questioning: simple/clear/avoid medical terms/open, leading,interrupting, direct questions and summarizing.
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Taking the history &Recording: Always record personal details:
name,
age,address,
sex,
ethnicity,
occupation,
religion,
marital status,
Record date of examination
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Complete History Taking
Chief complaint
History of present illness
Past medical history Systemic enquiry
Family history
Drug history
Social history
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Methods of Examination
Inspection
Palpation
LightDeep
Percussion
Flatness, dullness, resonance,hiperresonance, tymphany
Ausculatation
Pitch, intensity, duration, quality
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CHIEF COMPLAINT
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Chief Complaint
The main reason push the patient (pt) toseek for visiting a physician or for help
Usually a single symptoms, occasionallymore than one complaints ex: chest pain,palpitation, shortness of breath, ankleswelling etc
The patient describe the problem in theirown words.
It should be recorded in pts own words.
What brings your here? How can I helpyou? What seems to be the problem?
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Chief Complaint
Cheif Complaint (CC)
Short/specific in one clear sentencecommunicating present/major problem/issue.
Timing fever for last two weeks or sincemonday
Recurrent recurring episode of abdominalpain/cough
Any major disease important e.g. DM, asthma,HT, pregnancy, IHD:
Note: CC should be put in patient language.
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History of Present Illness
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History of Present Illness -Tips
Elaborate on the chief complaint in detail
Ask relevant associated symptoms
Have differential diagnosis in mind
Lead the conversation and thoughts
Decide and weight the importance ofminor complaints
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Sequential presentationAlways relay story in days before admission e.g. 1 week
before the admission, the patient fell while gardening and cuthis foot with a stone.Narrate in details By that evening, the foot became swollenand patient was unable to walk. Next day patient attendedKhorshid hospital and they gave him some oral antibiotics.He doesnt know the name. There is no effect on hiscondition and two days prior to admission, the foot continued
to swell and started to discharge pus. There is high fever andrigors with nausea and vomiting.
History of Presenting Complaint (HPC)
In details of symptomatic presentationIf patient has more than one symptom, like chest pain,swollen legs and vomiting, take each symptom individuallyand follow it through fully mentioning significant negatives aswell. E.g the pain was central crushing pain radiating to left
jaw while mowing the lawn. It lasted for less than 5 minutes
and was relieved by taking rest. No associated symptoms withpain/never had this pain before/no relation with food/he is
In details of present problem with- time of onset/ mode ofevolution/ any investigation;treatment &outcome/any
associated symptoms.
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History of Present Illness
- Tips Avoid medical terminology and make use
of a descriptive language that is familiar
to them Ask OPQRST for each symptom
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ain (OPQRST)
Position/si
te
Severity how it affects daily work/physical activities.Wakes him up at night, cannot sleep/do any work.
Relationship to anything or other bodily
function/position.Radiation: where moved toRelieving or aggravating factors any activities or
position
Quality, nature, character burning sharp, stabbing,crushing; also explain depth of pain superficial ordeep.
Timing mode of onset (abrupt or gradual),progression (continuous or intermittent ifintermittent ask frequency and nature.)Treatment received or/and outcome.
Onset of
disease
Are there any associated symptoms?
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Past Medical Illness
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Past Medical History
Start by asking the patient if they haveany medical problems
Heart Attack/DM/Asthma/HT/RHD,
TB/Jaundice :E.g. if diabetic- mentiontime of diagnosis/currentmedication/clinic check up
Past surgical/operation history
E.g. time/place/ and what type of operation.Note any blood transfusion and bloodgrouping.
History of trauma/accidents
E.g. time/place/ and what type of accident
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Drug History
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Drug History
Drug History (DH)
Always use generic name or put trade
name in brackets with dosage, timingand how long. Example: Ranitidine 150mg BD PO
Note: do not forget to mentionVitamins/Traditional medicine
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Family History
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Family History
Any familial disease/running in familiese.g. breast cancer, DM, schizophrenia,Developmental delay, asthma, albinism
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Social History
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Social History
Smoking history - amount, duration andtype. A strong risk factor for IHD
Drinking history - amount, duration and
type. Cause cardiomyopathy,vasodilatation
Occupation, social and education
background, ADL, family social supportand financial situation
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Other Relevant History
Gyane/Obstetric history if female
Immunization if small child
Note: Look for the child health card.
Travel and sexual history if suspected STI orinfectious disease
Note:
If small child, obtain the history from the care
giver. Make sure; talk to right care giver. If some one does not talk to your language, get
an interpreter(neutral not family friend ormember also familiar with both language). Ask
simple & straight question but do not go for yesor no answer.
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System Review (SR)
This is a guide not to miss anything
Any significant finding should be moved to HPCdepending upon where you think it belongs.
Do not forget to ask associated symptoms of PC with theSystem involved
When giving verbal reports, say no significant finding on
systems review to show you did it. However when writingup patient notes, you should record the systems review sothat the relieving doctors know what system you covered.
System Review
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System Review
Respiratory SystemCough(productive/dry)Sputum (colour, amount, smell)HaemoptysisChest pain
SOB/DyspnoeaTachypnoeaHoarsenessWheezing
CardiovascularChest painParoxysmal Nocturnal Dyspnoea
OrthopnoeaShort Of Breath(SOB)Cough/sputum (pinkish/frank blood)Swelling of ankle(SOA)PalpitationsCyanosis
Gastrointestinal/AlimentaryAppetite (anorexia/weight change)DietNausea/vomitingRegurgitation/heart burn/flatulenceDifficulty in swallowingAbdominal pain/distensionChange of bowel habitHaematemesis, melaena, haematochagiaJaundice
GeneralWeaknessFatigue
AnorexiaChange of weightFeverLumpsNight sweats
S t R i
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System Review
Urinary SystemFrequencyDysuriaUrgencyHesitancyTerminal dribblingNocturiaBack/loin painIncontinence
Character of urine:color/ amount(polyuria) & timingFever
Nervous SystemVisual/Smell/Taste/Hearing/SpeechproblemHead acheFits/Faints/Black outs/loss ofconsciousness(LOC)Muscle weakness/numbness/paralysisAbnormal sensationTremor
Change of behaviour or psyche
Genital systemPain/ discomfort/ itchingDischargeUnusual bleedingSexual historyMenstrual history menarche/ LMP/ duration &amount of cycle/ ContraceptionObstetric history Para/ gravida/abortion
Musculoskeletal SystemPain muscle, bone, jointSwelling
Weakness/movementDeformitiesGait
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SOAP
Subjective: how patient feels/thinks about him. How does h
look. Includes PC and general appearance/condition ofpatient
Objective relevant points of patient complaints/vital singsphysical examination/daily weight,fluid
balance,diet/laboratory investigation and interpretation
Plan about management, treatment, further investigation,follow up and rehabilitation
Assessment address each active problem after making aproblem list. Make differential diagnosis.
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QUESTION ?
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Vitals Sign
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Where are we going?
What are vital signs?
How do you take them?
So, whats normal?
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What are the vitals
They provide information about thestatus of a patient
Breating (Respirations)
Pulse
Temperature
Blood Pressure
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Counting Respirations
Respiration is one inhalation andexhalation.
Determined by counting for 30 sec, and
multiplying by 2.
A hand on the stomach/chest may help
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Normal Respirations
Adult 12-20/min
Child 15-30/min
Infant 25-50/min
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Respiration Quality
Normal
Shallow (low tidal volume)
LaboredUse of accessory muscles
Flaring
Tripod Breating Noisy breathing
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Pulse
Determined by counting for 30 sec andmultiplying by 2.
Irregular pulse counted for 60 sec.
Provides information about heart, bloodvolume and perfusion.
Taken at a pulse point
Dont use your thumb
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Pulse Quality
Normal
Bounding
WeakThready
Regular/Irregular
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Common Pulse Points
Central Pulses
Carotid
Femoral
Peripheral Pulses
Radial
Brachial (children under 1)
Posterior Tibial, Dorsalis Pedis
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Normal Pulse Rate
Adult 60-80/min
Child 80-120/min
Infant 120-150/min
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Skin
Color
Pink (Normal)
Pale
Cyanotic (Oxygen problems)
Red (CO or heat problems)
Yellow (Jaundice)
Temperature
Warm (Normal)
Hot
Cool
Cold
ConditionDry (Normal)
Moist
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Practice
Get pulse andrespirations fromat least twopeople
Try to get pulsefrom carotid,
radial, andbrachial pulsepoints
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Blood Pressure
Taken withmanual orautomatic BP cuff
Can be taken byauscultation orpalpation
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Key Terms
Systolic
Pressure when
heart is pumping Diastolic
Pressure whenheart is at rest
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One last note on Vitals
First set of vitals is the baseline, you areinterested in changes
On not sick patients, repeat every 15
minutes On sick patients, repeat every 5 minutes
Treat patient, not the vital signs or the
equipment
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Normal Blood Pressure
Male
Systolic = 100+age until 50
Diastolic =60-90
Female
Systolic=90+age until 50
Diastolic = 50-80
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Practice
Get BP from twopeople
Try at least twotechniques forobtaining BP
Auscultation,
Palpation, orAutomatic Cuff
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QUESTION?