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Graha* Gochara"Elarata Saturn"
Gochara Shani
Effects in the 12 Bhava
Shani - Main Page
see also: Sade Sati
Shani produces good results when the process is long-lasting, slow-moving,
reduced-energy, multi-staged, carefully checked and vetted, status-ranked,
proven, credentialed, materialistic, emotionally neutral, socially approved, tightly
regulated, and respectful to the elderly.
Shani delays, but typically He does not deny.
Will it be difficult overall?
Easy overall?
Aligned with my expectations?
Does Shani cause death?
Shani freezes, stalls, stiffens, desicates, delays, and reta rds.
However He is not a killer -- unless He is also the maranalord of bhava-2 or
bhava-7. In general, Shani does not completely stop the life force flow; rather He
increases the force of gravity, cools the blood and slows vigorous action in order
to call human attention to the step-wise structure of Time.
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Will my cherished fantasies and beliefs conflict
with Shani's material realism?
Will my every movement be blocked or fiercely
regulated?
Are there mitigants or buffers that can reduce
Shani's retarding effects and soften His rigid
adherence to the Law?
Shani is relentlessly realistic and completely neutral on the topic of beliefs and
expectations. He will use the true physical, emotional, mental, financial, social,
and spiritual conditions of life in order to accomplish His karmic goals. Shani does
not recognize Chandra's guiltlanguage of "should".
The best mental and ideological strategy during Shani transits is to Lower Your
Expectations regarding matters of the bhava via which Shani is traveling and
remain absolutely neutral in response to karmic burn-off mandates of
Shanaicarya.
Continuously asserting the religious belief, creative fantasy, or embedded
psychological expectation that reality "should" be different from what it is can be
a superb recipe for mental illness during Shani transits.
The three most difficult bhava for Shani are the swabhava of Shani's enemies
Surya + Mangala = bhava-1, bhava-5, and bhava-8.
Bhava which are owned by Shani's friends Budha + Shukra are overall more
harmonious places for Shani to travel across
Bhava which are owned by graha neutral to Shani Guru + Chandra are generally
neutral locations as well.
The temporal lordships of all 12 bhava must absolutely be considered, the angle
which Shani forms in relation to all of the birth graha must be assessed, and the
reigning bhukti-pati must be comprehended in detail especially regarding the
bhukti-pati's relationship to Shani both naturally and temporarly.
The current Vimshottari bhuktilord = the single most influential weakener or
strengthener of Shani's impact.
Vocabulary for Shani-gochara
CRISIS
"krit" means "rule, standard, judgement"
crisis, crime, criticize, hypocrisy, diacritic,
From http://www.etymonline.com
literally "judgment, result of a trial, selection,"
from krinein"to separate, decide, judge," from
PIE root *krei- "to sieve, discriminate,
distinguish" (cf. Greek krinesthai "to explain;"
Old English hriddel "sieve;" Latin cribrum
"sieve," crimen "judgment, crime," cernere (past
participle cretus) "to sift, separate;"
Gochara-Shani via Bhava 1 Lack of musculoskeletal support and minimum nourishment. The flesh-body maybe less able to absorb nutrient.Reduced movement.Limited capability to sustain
one's vitality and unique body-based identity.
In kendra,possibility of success only by repea ted effort. Excessive dryness,
coldness, appearance of aging, feeling elderly, often looks temporarily (duringthe transit) older than one really is.
Inevitably, Shani slows, stalls, stiffens, dries, delays and retards -- but in kendra or
in a friendly bhava or a neutral bhava, He does not deny.
By nature, Shani = materialistic. He can deliver valuable products resulting from
persistent effort. However, major Shani transits mark the period of the effort, not
yet the period of the final product.
Movement ( the natural power of Mangala) may be stalled, seized, pinched,
limping, crippled, brittle. Insufficiencies and scarcities: lacking time, energy,
permission.
Environments acquire qualities of stricture, discipline, and neutrality. Even the
colors in the field of perception may tend toward neutral tones, steely grays,
wooden browns, midnight blues, pale hues of stones and bones.
Shani is the Master of "no". The conscious native may accept temporarily
restricted (even painfully so) movements in order to streamline the lifestyle,
eliminating purposeless actions and habitual waste.
No sort of Guru-style excess may be permitted under auspice of Strict Shani -
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except possibly an excess of public duty workload. Governments and
bureaucracies, laws with serious consequences, c lass-ranking, official status,
regulations define the work environment.
Crisis of Legitimacy (Shani) in Personal Identity (1)
Imposition of a regime of lawful ordering of the personality-attribute system.
Crisis of identity. Eradication of disorder in the personhood. Shani demands
elegance:what attributes to release and what to justifiably maintain? Crisis is
more acute if there are graha residing in the afflicted bhava and/or simultaneousbhukti of Shani.
Freeze-frame. New energy for revitalization of the bodily movement and
appearance may be blocked; previously recognized identification markers must
beordered before proceeding. Existing roles must be carefully justified and
systematized during a streamlining process which lasts for 2.3 years.
If natal Shani resides in bhava-1, the lawful organization of the flesh-body into
stepped hierarchies of social att ribute-packages during Saturn Returnmay be a
very laborious process. The more tightly organized identity which emerges from
this streamlining process will be less burdened and more efficient. Also will be
reconfigured with stricter disciplinewhich supports heavier social
responsibilities during the forthcoming 30-year Shani circuit through all 12 bhava.
Every status marker that is attributed to the Self must be justified and reorganized
according to social-regulatory principles. One is held responsible during these 2.3
years to socially justify one's ranks and rolesin the social hierarchy. Forexample, "I am a mother", "I am a teacher", "I am an athlete", "I am a member of
xxx race-class-group". Every "I am attribute-x" statement must be systematized.
Attributes which are no longer valid must be disposed.
Agents of identity legitimation and testinginclude the physical body itself, which
may staunchly resist the necessary release of outdated structures. The life-force
itself may dwindle andjoie de vivremay seem to flame-out. Physical movement
may be impeded by stiffness, weakness,or muscular desiccation.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderliness
One may begin a slow and careful step-wise ascent to a higher social rank, such as
completing a complex application process to gain admission professional school or
seeking a government-sponsored research fellowship or other "next step" life
advancement.
Social approval of the identity will be forthcoming for those involved with
government, organizational bureaucracy, social policy, social ordering, scientific
systems, and the management of associative or distributive networks.
Yet such a process must be extremely slow and detailed, socially conformant, and
demand much proof via qualifications and credentials.
Work of all types will be slowly progressing but socially respected. A sensible
response to Shani's demand for regulated lifestyle can be a voluntary quietude and
an elegant, intentionally reduced pattern of movements during the transit.
Gochara-Shani via Bhava 2 Shani delays. Yet in swabhava of graha that are friendly or neutraltoward Shani,
He does not deny. Shukra is friendly toward Shani, therefore the final results of
Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined,
minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.
However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will
impose full austerity in the current bhava.
Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent
bhukti-pati, gochara Lord Shani will make His best effort to remove all
unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and
ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic
understanding of matters of the bhava.
Crisis of Legitimacy (Shani) in Values (2)
Imposition of a regime of lawful ordering of the value system.
Crisis of values. Systematization of therules of appreciation.What will be
allowed to appreciate in value? What shall be reduced (Shani) in vaue?Eradication of disorder in the memory banks.
Shani demands elegance:what values to release and what preciousness to keep?
Crisis is more acute if there are graha residing in the afflicted bhava and/or
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simultaneous bhukti of Shani.
New acquisitionsin language, speech, song, and capital wealth are blocked;previous acquisitions must beordered before proceeding. Existing treasuries of
wealth and knowledge must be carefully systematized during a streamlining
process which lasts for 2.3 years.
If natal Shani resides in bhava-2, the lawful organization of the memory-
knowledge banks into stepped hierarchies during Saturn Returnmay be a very
laborious process.
Everything that is known must be justified and reorganized according to
regulatory principles. One is held responsible during these 2.3 years to socially
justify one's social rank as a keeper of treasuries.
Agents of knowledge legitimation and testinginclude the family elders (2,
kutumbha) designated treasury keepers such as financial bankers, historians, and
lineage masters. Foodmay be scarce or difficult to digest. Eyes, mouth, and face
may feel stiff, dry and cold.
Real-World Effects
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the historical memory, relationship
to family history, speech and sight, and accumulated wealth.
In extreme cases: death of a family member generates extra work for the native.
Slows the speech and dims the memory; may diminish of right-eyesight due to
drying or constriction of flesh-tissues; words and sounds may be pinched or
negative in quality.
Family lineage culture may seem burdensome and the family historymay seem
either uninteresting or irrelevant to the material tasks at hand.
Shani the Law has little tolerance for those who speak in ways that was socially
disruptive. Long dentistry treatment processes.
It can be difficult to save money, store food, or increase the size of the animal
herd. The task of maintaining collections of art, music, or other valuable become
expensive and time-consuming.
Storage containers of every variety acquire Shani-traits such as weakness from
insufficient quality of materials, bent steel, damage from age, old wood, brokenstone, dried seals.
Acquisition of Languages requires intensive study and often very slow progress.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderliness
Gochara-Shani via Bhava-3
chronic repeating thoughts, sober delayed
heavily regulated communication
Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does
not deny. Budha is friendly toward Shani, therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3
year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic,
unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.
However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will
impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors
such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Lord Shani willmake His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions,
adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which
may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.
Effects: Physical, Emotional, Mental
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the mental activities,
small-group and team process, business administration, relationship tosiblingsand every variety of media-communication.
Long, drawn-out processes in matters of publishing, media-messaging, reports,
production of writing, instruction, explanation, conferences, planning, scheduling,
making of itineraries, short-term travel, and hand-craft.
Temporary separation from or extra work burdens generated by a younger sibling
or team-mate. Heavy responsibilities in commercial administration, publishing,writing, media production, and the skills-training component of teaching.
Often several periods of psychological depression and perhaps self-isolation, due
to the cold somberness of the interior narrative environment.
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The normally chatty inner talk becomes temporarily less speedy, less fluent;
thoughts acquire a certain heavy darkness, and the colors of the mind seem to be
rather dry and stony brown hue for a sustained period of months at the peak of
the transit.
The cure for the mental depression is generally reduction of unnecessary thoughts
and intentionally choosing to absorb uplifting information, such as read positive
books or attend inspiring lectures. Also, bright lights can be used to counteract
Shani's heavy cast.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
Gochara-Shani via Bhava-4
chronic settlement,
responsibility to make a home
systematizing the roots, the ethnicity, thesense of belonging
necessity to stay in one place
home may become very cold, very dry, orvery windy
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the physical, emotional and cultural
security and protection.
Stalled movement toward property, diploma, cultural validation, vehicle, or
place of belonging.
Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does
not deny. Chandra is neutral toward Shani - however Shani sees Soma as an
enemy.
The relationship between the uniform rules of national government (Shani) vsunique customs of local settlements (Chandra) is inherently oppositional; as is the
relationship between the public leadership duties (Shani) vs. parochial parenting
needs (Chandra). Shani-Chandra represent a natural opposition in human
civilization which plays out in every person's life.
While sometimes frustrating, the Shani-Chandra polarity of social rules vs. family
rhythms is usually not shocking or outright adversarial in nature. The relationship
between Shani and Chandra can be characterized as "mutually reserved and
cautious". Therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed
manifest in an acceptable outcome, noted for its stabilizing maturity and regulated
realism -- even while some emotional resentment remains.
Effects
Slow and steady schooling process to pass examinations and acquire diploma or
license,involving many setbacks. Yet ultimately proof of competence is
established.
In kendra,possibility of success only by repeated and extraordinary effort.
Temporary separation from homeland or parents; long drawn-out process to
obtain a national citizenship, residency papers, or passport; matters of property
and vehicle ownership, particularly fencing or defense of the land, also subject to
repeated, lawful delays. Repeating vehicle troubles, especially engine stalls.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
Gochara-Shani via Bhava 5 Shani finds Himself in an inhospitable graha naturally ruled by His bitter enemy
Surya.
It is an unfriendly situation which can produce frustrating delays in matters ofcreativity, performance arts, speculative finance, children, theatre, politics, and
expressions of personal intelligence.
Shani gochara Buddhi-bhavatends to stifle the creative instincts, repress the
speculative urge, and impose the rule of the lowest common denominator upon
the royal, brilliant, ego-centric expressions of bhava-5.
Exceptions:
for Kanya lagna, the experience of Shani gochara His temporal swabhava is
somewhat less pinched. The native's expectationsare naturally rather
conservative and sober requiring orderly children, well-regulated students,
pragmatic expression of crea tive intelligence and limited personal
amusement. Therefore for Kanya lagna, Shani gochara via 5 matches the
existing conditions and causes less frustration.
for Thula lagna, yogakaraka Shani gochara His temporal swabhava inmulatrikonasuggests a 2.3 year period that is distinguished by significant
responsibilities for children, advanced students, and works of creative
intelligence. Shani imposes a systematic approach to creativity. However
for Thula lagna this is the natural situation therefore Shani requires no
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particular restrictions.
Likely manifestations of Gochara-Shani via bhava-5 include separations from the
children and from romantic lovers due to workload; political oppression or
censure of individuality within by a heavily regulated government agency or
under a conservative regime; and a deep frustration with delayed recognition for
one's creativity, intelligence, or entitlements.
Shani gochara via 5 also can delay childbirth therefore those with fertility
concerns may feel a sustained frustration with numerous setbacks.
However if Shani is the lord ofputrasthana(Kanya lagna and Thula lagna) and
the woman is not too young and not too wealthy, Shani's gochara via bhava-5 may
signal the birth of a child, followed by the pinched experience of raising that child
in a climate of scarce resources.
Positive outcomes may include social maturity and careful approach to expressing
the personal intelligence; requirement to to study political science, economics,
and behavioral sciences ; intellectual attention to mass movements and conditions
of the rank-and-file workers.
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the personal genius, creative
intelligence, divinely inspired productivity, reproductive fertility, and
reduction in the scope of celebrity or fame. Limited public recognition for royal
privilege and entitlements.
Less confidence, more carefulness.
The golden aura of the individual soul which radiates from each person may
during Shani gochara to mantra-bhava acquire a temporary dullness or shadowy
hue of steel-gray, deepest purple, or darkest blue.
Stalled movement toward political entitlements, temporary setbacks of election
campaign (5).
Loss of gambling luck, Stalled movement toward winnings from games and
speculations. Shani gochara bhava-5 is the worst possible time to gamble.
Stalled movement toward royal ceremonies such as coronation, delay in
receiving coveted theatrical roles, deprivation of center-stage attentions and
quieting of applause.
In extreme cases, loss of procreativity or temporary separation from a living
child.
In bhava-5, theat rical-political duties can make romance (5) unsustainable.
At first, one may accept a more central, visible duty roster (Shani) because it
seems like more responsibility will lead to more popular recognition and
ego-approval. However, for the duration of the transit, more responsibility leads
mainly to ... more responsibility.
USA Sen-NY, Secy State 2009-2013Hillary Clintonserved from Jan-2009
until Jan-2013. She endured the ingress of gochara Shani via her Thula
bhava-5 politics containing Surya + Shukra + Budha. The transit impacted
her political performance from Nov-2011 until the end of service in
Jan-2013. Although her diplomatic (Thula) workload was very heavy, and
she experienced a brief hea lth crisis involving dehydration and brain-
concussion (Shani = dry, pressure) she was held in consistently high regard
as an agent of lawful balance.
Shani's duty roster dominates the game-playing amusements of 5 and fills the
native with a sense of Limited Time. The burden of managing public affairs
(Shani) overwhelms the individual celebrity, and one becomes a stage manager
rather than an actor.
The children, sensing that they are perceived as disorderly, may become
temporarily alienated. Lovers (5), noticing that the native has little time available
for sweet romance, may depart.
Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding children. For those wanting a child
but seemingly unable to conceive, Sade Satiinputrabhava may signal a period of
devastating no-movement infertility. But for those whose children are already
manifested, the difficulty of the children's situation becomes a focus of frustration
due to insufficiency of time and resources. See Sade Sati in 12 bhavafor more
details.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
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Gochara-Shani via Bhava-6
Chronic problems
Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does
not deny. Budha is friendly toward Shani; therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3
year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic,
unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.
However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will
impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors
such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Lord Shani will
make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions,
adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which
may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.
Effects
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the bodily healthbalance.
Marital and business partnership fixed disagreements, chronic poverty, enduring
narratives of victimization, criminal elements in the environment, chronic
ailments, drugs, toxicity and social conflict (including conditions of war).
Material disagreement in marriage and business partnership, caused by a
perception of obligation to dissolve the contract
Socially approved litigation, often on behalf of the lowest classes (including
animals and other natural beings)
If Shani is negatively disposed, the government may become a temporaryagent of accusations and threats
physicians are elderly, sober, experienced, but overworked.
should one be a physician, very heavy workload, many patients, chronic
ailments
Marriage harmony suffers from the weight of public duty. However Shani
resists divorce and Shani gochara via 6 tends to freeze the disagreements
into a chronic state rather than permit any sort of resolution. Neither is
divorce generally permitted (unless the native is simultaneously having a
Vimshottari period of L-6
Chronic servitude, often in the workplace. Does not harm the income - in fact
could increase the paycheck due to overtime work. However, the overtime hours
may be oppressive to health.
Potential for theft in the workplace, often an "inside job" since Shani does not
eject the criminal element but rather regulates it. During the 2.3 years of Shani's
travel via bhava-6, loans granted to others are likely not repaid.
Splendid transit for working in jails, medical clinics, service to drug addicts,
thieves, the very poorest classes, prostitutes, those locked in a chronic state of
animosity and blaming, other exploited and oppressed persons. The problems are
chronic for all involved, deeply embedded in their social class consciousness.
One who understands and accepts the chronic insolvability of the problems in the
environment during this transit will succeed greatly under the Jyotisha dictum that
a papagraha in a papabhava allows one to manage one's enemies, forestall debt,
and generally prevent victimization because one's expectationsare properly
aligned with reality.
Problems related to domestic animals (such as veterinary expenses) medicines,
and crimes of every type. Temporary but severe delays in delivery of medicaltreatment, access to physicians and necessary drugs. Pressure of patient-load.
In bhava-6, duties of nursing the ill, enduring underpaid labor, or ministering to
the indigent may prevent progress in the philosophical or scholarly professions (6
= 9th from 10th and 10th from 9th). Higher expressions of service such as
professional medicine and religious leadership become unsustainable while lower
ranking ministries of mandatory service may be imposed by Shani.
A common scenario = temporary 'slavery' to caring for an ill population, such as a
health worker coping with a disease epidemic, or a service provider dealing with
the endless physical and social problems of the extremely poor. The pressure is
produced by conditions that are embedded in the social structure (Shani) and
chronic and plagued by insufficient resources.
Gochara Shani's duty roster including the responsibility to govern environments
which feature problematizing, medicating, serving, analyzing, criticizing,
argumentation and litigation. Shani's material-plane work occupies all of one'sTime.
One may be restricted in ability to manage the health and welfare of one's
servants - and the service class in general. Servants, employees and Children from
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a second marriage (6 = 5th from 2nd) may become problematic due to their health
concerns, their debts, or their animosities toward the native.
When Shani transits bhava-6 the native has "senior" status in all conflicts and one
will outlast all adversaries. Therefore in the end (within the 2.3 years of this
transit) one will have the power to regulate and contain all enemies. Shani-6
neither wins nor loses the conflict, but simply keeping them in fixed status whilst
the work goes on.
Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding loans,management monies
borrowed on credit, usurious situations. Insufficient ability to repay loans,resulting in penalties for non-payment.
Sade Satiin ripubhava can bring the creditor to the doorstep of one's home
(Chandra). Lawsuit or other complaint may ensue. Potential era of legal
bankruptcy. Continuing poverty despite a heavy workload. See Sade Sati in 12
bhavafor more details.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
Gochara-Shani via Bhava-7 Assuredly, Shani delays -- yet in swabhavaof graha friendly or neutral towardShani, He does not deny.
Shukra is friendly toward Shani; therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year
transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic,unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.
However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will
impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors
such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Lord Shani will
make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions,
adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which
may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.
Effects
One may experience traction in all negotiations. Many attempts may be required
in order to locate points of mutual interest. Repeated efforts are required to
achieve a Final agreement. Even when the contract deal seems imminent, a new
regulatory requirement may arise which postpones the conclusion of bargaining
once again.
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment,, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the core interpersonal relationship
agreements, including counseling and advising partnerships.
In kendra, possibility of success only by repeated and extraordinary effort.
Stalled movement toward marriage alliance. If alliance exists however, Shani-
gochara-7 indicates loyalty and fidelity to the legal contract. The mate works
constantly and there is a heavy sense of duty in the environment which may
outweigh both affection and mutual pleasure.
Nevertheless Shani gains temporary dig-balavia 7. Despite burdensome duties for
both partners in the alliance, the partnership outcome is respectable, dignified,
and socially approved.
Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding unfulfilled legal contracts,fixed
but dysfunctional alliances, insufficiently resourced brokerage duties, obligationto remain in arrangements, bargains and deals which produce insufficient results.
The designated helpmate is limited in their ability to help.
Sade Satiinjayabhava is more severe in effect, and often yields an emotionally
painful extra workload for the contractual partners which temporarily pulls all
attention away from pleasure (Shukra) and toward fulfillment of social-
government rules. Heavy duties or penalties for previous actions may thrust upon
the marriage partners or business partners, which they must accept yet do not
truly possess the resources to complete the task. See Sade Sati in 12 bhavafor
more details.
Gochara-Shani via Bhava-8
suspended between identities
frozen into the liminal state, paralyzed unmoving
between previous and future identities
Identity-changing situations begin with a sudden upheaval. Then the energy
slowdown: Shani gochara-8 imposes an unmoving condition of Shani-stasisfor
2.3 years. One's new identity holds a state of paralysis while unknown,
unacknowledged forces continue to build toward activation of the ultimate
material identity transformation.
Material evidence of the new external form (still containing the original Self) does
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unable to rejuvenate or reinvigorate, yet remains
in the original body
good results: in traumatic times, Shani-gochara-8
prevents extreme self-destructive acts
not fully emerge until the completion of Shani's journey via 8.
The single most difficult transit of durosha-karaka(agent of slow) Shani through
all the 12 bhava is this one, gochara-Shani via 8. Randhrasthana is neither a
kendra nor a trine and 8 is owned by Shani's enemyMangala. None of the
potentially beneficial results of a Shani transit are likely to occur in this bhava.
The potential frustration of Shani-stasis in bhava-8 which is specifically designed
to renovate, reinvigorate, and recycleshould not be underestimated.
The "stuck-and-frozen" or "stuck-and-burning" or "stuck-and-directionless"experience of Shani-gochara-8 may be much compounded by a concurrent
bhukti of recycler L-8
bhukti of frozen Shani
bhukti of natural L-8 burning Mangala
bhukti of Ketu co-lord of bhava-8: scattering, nebulizing, undirected
"beheading" Ketu.
Shani's purpose during this 2.3 year event is to retard and regulatethe
mysterious movements of unseen forces which normally cause traumatic shock
and terror of the unknown. Shani imposes a 'doldrums' stasis which prevents
premature transformation and upholds some portion of the previous identity so
that the native's life is buffered from the threat of psychological collapse.
In retrospect, one may be able to admit that Shani's change-blocking resistance
preserved enough of their previous identity to prevent suicide or other extreme
self-destructive reactions to catastrophic change.
Examples of 8th-related sudden-energy-release (8) shocks tamped down by
pressure-imposing Shani may include unexpected widowhood, unwanted divorce,
traumatic invasionsvia crime, natural disaster, or surgery - or even the crisis (8)
of internal attack by genetically caused major disease which was lurking there all
along. Paralysis of movement in matters of disaster and invasion may indeed be a
good thing.
However, for matters involving less violent threats to the identity, duroshyaShani
can impose some highly frustrating delays. Renovation, recycling, reinvigoration,
rejuvenation -- all stall.
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the hidden assets, internal ("invisible")sexual-reproductive organs and the human endocrine system which supports
sexual process. Limitations upon secret relationships. Slowing of veiled healings.
Scarcity of resources available to pursue transformative practices.
Confidential information and hidden resources are particularly well sealed, so that
detectives, psychiatrists, and drillers find this transit most frustrating. Financial
inheritance and legacy fortunes are temporarily oppressed.
Changes do occur but only when lawful. Carefully regulated changes of identity
occur now which are socially approved and conducted in an environment of
scarce resources.
Sudden, forced changes are much reduced. In areas where a quick transformation
is wanted, such as recovery from medical surgery, the revitalization period may
experience numerous setbacks en route to the final healing.
Karmic obligation to endure identity changes while retaining the existing physicalbody (not death) such as:
widowhood or divorce from first spouse (8 = 2nd-from-7th death of mate).
traumatic upheaval due to natural disaster;
catastrophic crisis of faith (8 = 12th from 9)
sudden physical relocation due to loss of homeland (3), e.g. refugee of war
(6) (8 = 3rd from 6)
"healing crisis" getting stuck in mid-cycle due to resistance during
psychiatric or tantrik process
In extreme cases, severe loss of hidden assets or loss of internal reproductive
organs (such as hysterectomy).
Regulation of the investigative, discovering, revealing, depth-plumbing,
psychiatric, disaster responding, dangerous, tantrik, occult "classified" activities
which one previously hadpursued with independence.
Shani's work occupies all of one's Time. Legitimation via proof of the truth of
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mysteries and covert knowledge. Weight of the burden of leadership in areas
where no fixed leader survives.
Shani adds to longevity during His transit via 8 *except* when He is also L-2 or
L-7. If Shani is a natural marana-karaka,then His transit via 8 can utilize the
karma of exit from the physical form - but the exit process is long, staged, and
drawn-out.
Shani can put social pressure upon hidden liaisons, delay the meeting of secret
lovers, and apply the laws of karma to one's pursuit of secret knowledge making
the process of initiation and gaining access to occult realms painstakingly slow.
Hidden wealth and occult truths must be approached with neutrality and
acceptance that Shani uses Time as His primary tool of transformation. However,
the transformation process will ultimately succeed as it too follows the karmic
law.
Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding limitations upon action in situations
which involvesudden onset ofun-diagnosable illness; violent upheaval or
invasion followed by 2-plus years of remaining paralyzed in the unmoving, liminal
state between identities.
Responsibility to manage - but not cure or resolve - poisons, attacks, or onslaught
of radically transformative forces. The forces (Mangala) may be active on the
spiritual, mental, financial, social, emotional, or physical levels. The forces may
originate within the body or the forces may suddenly arise within the external
environment. Shani "freezes" the action in any case; the forces a rise, the attack
occurs - and then, no substantial action (Shani blocks Mangala) for a period ofapproximately 2.3 years.
Naturally, the concurrent bhukti-pathi is a major determiner of outcome; and if
either Shani or Mangala or the lord of bhava-8 happens to be the concurrent
bhukti-pathi, then the frustrating drama of freeze-action, seizure, or paralysis in a
state of siege can be very much heightened.
Public or private upheaval or disaster. May be external e.g. weather-related or
social upheaval. May be internal, e.g. sudden onset of mysteriously caused
disease.
Freeze-action, non-intervention, non-participation of the marital in-laws (8) and
the joint assets of the spousal union.
Insufficiency of the shared values of the partnership. Not enough stored value to
sustain the alliance. The mate is temporarily for 2.3 years unable to contribute
value into the shared coffers of the union.
After the initial upheaval, the identity-changingsituation enters stasis both
unresolvable and unsustainable during the transit of Shani. (Applies equally to
business partnership or marital alliance.)
Government rules or punitivesocial conventionsmay prevent the use of
innovative techniques to address the threat.
Fixed but dysfunctional alliances, insufficiently resourced brokerage duties,
obligation to remain in arrangements, bargains and deals which produce
insufficient results. The designated helpmate is limited in their ability to help.
Sade Satiinjayabhava is more severe in effect than a mere transit of Shani. Sade
Sati may yield an emotionally painful extra workload which temporarily pulls all
attention away from pleasure (Shukra) and toward fulfillment of social-
government rules. Heavy duties or penalties for previous actions may thrust upon
the marriage partners or business partners, which they must accept yet do nottruly possess the resources to complete the task. See Sade Sati in 12 bhavafor
more details.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
Gochara Shani via Bhava9 Certainly, Shani delays -- yet in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral towardShani, He does not deny. Guru is neutral toward Shani; therefore the final results
of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined,
minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.
However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will
impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors
such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Lord Shani will
make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions,
adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which
may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.
Effects
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Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the religious convictions, authentic
personal spirituality and wisdom quality of knowledge.
Orthodoxy required. Public piety required. Ritual duties required. The father may
require extra effort from the native; he may fall short of resources, have trouble
with the government, or suffer the constrictions of age. World travel, although
often required by the duty roster, is wearisome with many delays.
If Shani = L-10, Shani's transit via 12th-from-10th can signify erosion of interestin the professional empowerments, with a preference for reflective rather than
executive roles.
Shani imposes the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law. For professors, heavy
philosophical teaching load. For the guru-figure, Shani introduces thick-headed,
intractable or lower qualities in the sisya-figures. For temple priests, scarcity of
resources and lack of generosity on the part of temple patrons.
For the disciplined scholar, Shani gochara dharmasthana is generally a good time
to undertake long-term studies of sacred scripture, philosophical teaching
rotations which require both rigorous scholarship and world travel, or priestly
training in liturgical ritual. Ideally the program of study or training = 2.3 or 2.5
years.
Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding unfulfilled expectationsin matters
of preaching and priesthood. Fixed but dysfunctional roles in theology,
philosophy, study of sacred scripture. Insufficiently resourced priestly duties,obligation to remain in teaching or preaching positions which produce insufficient
results. The father or guru are limited in their ability to help.
Sade Satiin dharmabhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift
between the native and their religious philosophy which imposes a crisis of faith.
For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
Should Shani have a friendly relationship with both the lord of dharmabhava and
occupants of bhava-9, Shani' transit via dharmasthana can be a favorable
experience involving executive management of the sahanghaor congregation of
believers.
For example,
if yogakaraka Shani (for Thula lagna and Vrishabha lagna) transits bhava-9while Shani or Budha rule this house while Shukra or Shani or Budha
occupy the bhava,
then the native could be expected to return to the university for an
advanced diploma, or undertake a demanding but highly respectable course
of world travel for teaching-preaching purposes, or accept a heavy
workload as an honored head of a religious institution or scholarly group.
The workload would be undeniable, but for those with several mutually
supportive graha all engaged with the dharmasthana, Shani gochara via 9
connotes disciplined scholarship in high religion, top ranks of priesthood,
professorial duties which bring public visibility and respected.
During Shani's 2.3 year transit via-9, orthodoxy in belief and theory is required
and daunting amounts of social ordering work such as convening of large
decision-making bodies, complex revisions of sacred liturgy, writing of policies for
scholarly institutions, and governance of professors-priests-and-scholars(otherwise known as "herding cats").
The payoff can be priestly credibility in the congregation of believers -- albeit at
the cost of true wisdom since gochara Shani temporarily oppresses the generous
inclusiveness of Lord Guru.
Nevertheless one who undertakes the legislative, governing, regulatory tasks of
ordering the sanghacan obtain a materially good career result by earning (Shani)
institutional authority (Shani) in the higher ranks of universities and organized
religious sects (9).
Gochara Shanivia kendra Bhava-10 Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,excessive realism and profound sobriety of the public dignity, reputation, and
social leadership roles.
Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does
not deny. Shani gochara via his own bhava typically delivers lawful, respectable
results albeit slowly and with much necessary deliberation.
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Possibility of success only by repeated effort.
Stalled movement toward social recognition of professional standing.
As a rule Shani has dignity in karmasthana where the public grants respect to one
who demonstrates qualities of diligence in material works, persistence in the face
of obstacles, and lawful execution of duties.
in 1893, during his Sade-Sati*and* Gochara-Shani via bhava-10, Swami
Vivekanandaworked and traveled extensively in connection with theinstitutional governance body "World Congress of Religions".
He made such a superb impression as a diligent, respectable, and careful
ecumenical ambassador that his speech at this famous corporate Congress is
still recounted today. Due to his natal Nishturabashi Yogain 10, the
constant effort of leadership responsibilities and executive workload made
him very ill, and he died in 1902.
Sade Satiin karmabhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift
between the native and their leadership roles or public reputation, which imposes
a crisis of social legitimacy. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.
Good Material Results in swabhava
Typically, Shani produces His best material results in bhava-11, the site of
associative and distributive networks. Vriddhibhavaproduces social-material
gains via awards for achievement, marketplace income, and regulated exchangesof information-goods-services along the system pathways. Shani is all about the
Rules.
When the nativity shows harmonious relationships between lord of 11, resident
graha in 11, and the prevailing bhukti-pati, it is possible to realize significant
material gains and network participation approvals during Shani gochara-11.
Not only gains of financial type but also other social-network goals may be
accomplished. Success in goal achievement presumes that the native is willing to
follow Shani's protocol of long waits, strict rules, many incremental (and some
lateral) steps, many examinations, and a consistently heavy bureaucratic or
regulatory workload.
The succeed in reaching material goals during Shani-gochara-11, the goals must
be primarily marketplace-driven (Shani) and not distinctively personal (Surya).
For example, one may achieve an advanced diploma in an an economically
important technical field of study but not a diploma in poetry or philosophy. A 5thmarriageceremony may be realized. For the social-progress aficionado,
significant social-progress objectives may be met under Shani's auspice, but the
goal of extended marketplace participation must be met in a slow and absolutely
lawful fashion.
However, before getting too excited about gochara Shani's profit potential, it may
be wise to keep in mind the traditional Jewish wisdom, repeated in Matthew
19:23-26; Mark 10:24-25; and Luke 18:24-25, regarding the practical likelihood
of camels being able to pass through the eye of a needle.Shani's accomplishments
in bhava-11 are strictly social-material.
Gochara Shani via Bhava-11 Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,excessive realism and profound sobriety of the marketplace mobility, profit and
income, networks of association, recognition in the assembly, membership in largegroups of friends.
Slow, careful, institutionally regulated progress toward goals.
Always Shani delays -- but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani,
He does not deny. Shani gochara via his own bhava typically delivers lawful,
respectable results albeit slowly and with much necessary deliberation.
Troubles for the elder sibling, mainly in the form of delays.
Does not harm the income. Paycheck tends to remain unchanged while
workload gets temporarily heavier.
Goals will be reached albeit very slowly by following a careful, lawful
step-wise process.
Shani in transit via swabhava-11 does not harm the marketplace earnings but He
imposes strict regulations upon the links between participants. Often there is some
pressure from government legislation and officers of the law. However if the laws
are followed Shani does not interrupt the profit-taking of the market interactions.
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Similarly, community networking and progressive social policy are supported so
long as the community's goals and methods are legitimate from the perspective of
the great society.
In general the 11th-type behaviors of setting and reaching goals, earning income,
and developing a reliable social network of affinity-associations will be sustained.
The elder sibling may become a source of extra duty; the sibling may experience
insufficient access to resources or the constrictions of age. If Shani is also
7th-from-11th L-5 or 2nd-from-11th L-12, death of an aged elder sibling ispossible.
If Shani is unfavorable, so much time may be required to attend to duties of
managing networks, earning profits, and achieving material goals that one's
friends may feel ignored, be temporarily alienated and depart. Prizes awarded for
past accomplishments, one of the features of bhava-11, are generally suppressed
during Shani gochara but will resume once Shani travels out from vriddhisthana.
Overall, gochara Shani produces modest incremental gains during his 2.3 year
journey via 11. One must work a bit harder to earn the same, and marketplace
exchanges tend to stagnate or be heavily regulated. Conditions of economic
downturn or scarcity may constrain the earnings, but the native tends to respond
to Shani's pinching with a commitment to work harder. Typically, there is neither
unusual gain nor unusual loss but rather doubled work for the same profit.
Temporary separation from elder siblings or friends due to work-duty pressures is
not unduly harmful unless conditions are exacerbated by the Vimshottari dashatimelord or multiple graha are oppressed by the Shani transit.
Sade Satiin vriddhibhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift
between the native and their modes of engagement in the marketplace, which
imposes a crisis of legitimacy that freezes income or paralyzes the capacity for
network-participation. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.
Gochara Shani via Bhava-12 Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He doesnot deny. Guru the natural lord of 12 is neutral toward Shani, therefore the final
results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined,
minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.
However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will
impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factorssuch as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Lord Shani will
make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions,
adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which
may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.
Real-World Effects
Chronic enemies of the marriage (12 = 6th-from-7th) or chronic ailments of
the spouse (12 = 6th-from-7th) are maintained not alleviated.
temporary sleep deprivation
If unmarried, neutrality toward marital difficulties of others.
Most of Shani's pressure affects the subconscious expectations. The troubles
experienced during transit of Shani-via-12 are less the effect of external material
pressures and more the result of fantasies, imaginings, dreams, visions, worries,and below-the-surface fears .
Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression,
excessive realism and profound sobriety of the privacy, personal imagination,
access to sanctuary and spiritual retreat.
Heavy workload and scarcity of resources if long journeys are required by other
factors such as a bhukti of L-9 or L-12; but normally a Shani transit via 12
indicates delayed or temporarily blocked permission to travel abroad, disallowing
movement in distant lands.
Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines
Splendid period for structured research and study, particularly carefully regulated
laboratory process and working sabbatical.
The focus is relentlessly interior for 2.3 years while Shani travels via vyayabhava.
As with any conditions in bhava-12 "the best puja is seva".
Charitable service to those in materially compromised circumstances is suitable
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to hospitals, dormitories, monasteries, refugee camps, or prisons can burn off the
karma of mental imprisonment in one's own imagination which is the source of all
constriction during the Shani transit via 12.
Ancestor spirits can become a source of extra work for the native. Dream
interpreters and c lairsentient readers may become overburdened with difficult
imagery. Hospital workers, sanctuary keepers, monastery managers experience a
heavier than normal workload with limited recognition for their efforts.
An attitude of neutrality toward sanctuary environments, toward one's ownimagination and vis-a-visthe astral plane in particular will be essential.
Sade Satiin vyayabhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift
between the native and their embedded subconscious expectations (or cherished
fantasies) which imposes a crisis of vision that freezes the daily dream-instruction
or paralyzes the intuition. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.
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