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FINDING NEXT OF KIN FINDING NEXT OF KIN
USING ANCESTRY AND ACCURINTUSING ANCESTRY AND ACCURINT
SEARCH ENGINES SEARCH ENGINES
ORDER OF PRIORITY TO HANDLE DISPOSITIONORDER OF PRIORITY TO HANDLE DISPOSITIONPURSUANT TO HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 7100PURSUANT TO HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 7100
The right to control the disposition of the remains of a deceased The right to control the disposition of the remains of a deceased person, ..the following in the order named:person, ..the following in the order named:
(1)(1) An agent under a power of attorney for health care who has the right An agent under a power of attorney for health care who has the right
and duty of dispositionand duty of disposition
((2) The competent surviving spouse2) The competent surviving spouse. .
(3) The sole surviving competent adult child of the decedent(3) The sole surviving competent adult child of the decedent , ,
(4) The surviving competent parent or parents of the decedent(4) The surviving competent parent or parents of the decedent . .
(5) The sole surviving competent adult sibling of the decedent(5) The sole surviving competent adult sibling of the decedent , ,
(6) The surviving competent adult person or persons respectively in the (6) The surviving competent adult person or persons respectively in the next degrees of kinship, next degrees of kinship,
(7) The public administrator(7) The public administrator
ORDER OF PRIORITY FOR PROBATING AN ESTATEORDER OF PRIORITY FOR PROBATING AN ESTATEPursuant to Probate Code 8461Pursuant to Probate Code 8461……
8461. Subject to the provisions of this article, a person in the 8461. Subject to the provisions of this article, a person in the following relation to the decedent is entitled to appointment as following relation to the decedent is entitled to appointment as administrator in the following order of priority: administrator in the following order of priority: (a) (a) Surviving spouseSurviving spouse or or domestic partnerdomestic partner as defined in Section 37. as defined in Section 37.
(b) (b) Children.Children. (c) (c) Grandchildren.Grandchildren.
(d) (d) Other issueOther issue. . (e) (e) ParentsParents. .
(f) (f) Brothers and sisters.Brothers and sisters. (g) (g) Issue of brothers and sistersIssue of brothers and sisters. .
(h) (h) GrandparentsGrandparents. . Issue of grandparentsIssue of grandparents. .
(j) (j) Children of a predeceased spouse or domestic partnerChildren of a predeceased spouse or domestic partner. . (k) (k) Other issue of a predeceased spouse or domestic partnerOther issue of a predeceased spouse or domestic partner. .
(l) (l) Other next of kinOther next of kin. . (m) (m) Parents of a predeceased spouse or domestic partnerParents of a predeceased spouse or domestic partner. .
(n) (n) Issue of parents of a predeceased spouse or domestic partnerIssue of parents of a predeceased spouse or domestic partner. . (o) (o) Conservator or guardian of the estate acting in that capacity at Conservator or guardian of the estate acting in that capacity at
the time of death the time of death and do not represent other… and do not represent other…
(p) (p) Public administratorPublic administrator.. (q) (q) CreditorsCreditors. . (r) (r) Any otherAny other
KNOW YOUR RESOURCESKNOW YOUR RESOURCESCLETS – DMV recordsCLETS – DMV records
Criminal recordsCriminal records
SOCIAL SECURITY DEPARTMENTSOCIAL SECURITY DEPARTMENT
CRISS CROSS - quick homeowner referenceCRISS CROSS - quick homeowner reference
VITAL STATISTICS – local officeVITAL STATISTICS – local office
ANCESTRYANCESTRY
ACCURINT ACCURINT
411.Com 411.Com
GOOGLEGOOGLE
MELISSA DATA.COMMELISSA DATA.COM
APPROACH OF A REFERRALAPPROACH OF A REFERRAL
read all reports – police reports, read all reports – police reports, coroner reports etc.coroner reports etc.
get names of friends and neighborsget names of friends and neighborsGet DOB, SSN and other bio Get DOB, SSN and other bio
informationinformationGather the basic information – Gather the basic information –
creating a foundation creating a foundation
NAIL YOUR FACTS – Ask for proper spelling ie: Lillian or Lilly Ann- Get LKA. When was the last time you saw this person ie. Yesterday, a year ago, 10 years ago.
Don’t ask Yes or No Questions.
Remember everyone lies or they simply don’t know much about their friend of 10 years.
Every Family has a Cousin It they don’t want to own up to
NOW WHAT??NOW WHAT??
THE DAY OF RADIO – 1938 RADIO BROADCAST WAR OF THE WORLD
TODAY IS THE DAY OF INFORMATION AND MISINFORMATION
Clever photography created this hoax – an email that spread claiming that Guinness World Record declared this pooch the largest dog in the world.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE MAZE OF INFORMATION AND DATA?
HOW DO YOU FIND WALDO IN A SEA OF WALDOS?
THE INTERNET is NOT….THE INTERNET is NOT….
a crystal balla crystal ball
IT IS A database of inaccuracies and IT IS A database of inaccuracies and
misinformationmisinformation
DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READDON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ COPIOUS HOURS COPIOUS HOURS WITH LITTLEWITH LITTLE
MEANINGFUL RESULTSMEANINGFUL RESULTS
MUST BE ARMED MUST BE ARMED WITH GOOD INFORMATIONWITH GOOD INFORMATION
THE ART OF CONVERSATION
•Conversation is the universal method of getting information about each other. If asked you probably know more about your neighbor than you think – through the years of having short conversations.
•An Interview is just a conversation with a point to it.
•So what’s your point in your conversation.To obtain the kind of information that will assist in your search for family such as names, aliases/married names, addresses, friends/associates. Obtaining the back story to events.
WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE FAMILY – FIND A FRIEND/ASSOCIATE /NEIGHBOR THAT COULD ACT AS A GOOD
HISTORIAN.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT INFORMATION WILL HELP YOU DETERMINE A STRONG LINK TO A WEAK LINK
ANCESTRYANCESTRY
HUGE DATABASE OF PUBLIC RECORDHUGE DATABASE OF PUBLIC RECORD NOT ALL STATES ARE GOOD REPORTING STATESNOT ALL STATES ARE GOOD REPORTING STATES
SEARCH WITH BROAD PERIMETERSSEARCH WITH BROAD PERIMETERSTHANTHAN
NARROW YOUR SEARCH – NARROW YOUR SEARCH – LEFT MARGIN SEARCHLEFT MARGIN SEARCH
ACCURINTACCURINT
- GATHERS INFORMATION FROM ALL SOURCES - GATHERS INFORMATION FROM ALL SOURCES SUCH AS: CREDIT REPORTS, RENTAL APPL.SUCH AS: CREDIT REPORTS, RENTAL APPL.
- GIVES YOU CURRENT INFORMATION- GIVES YOU CURRENT INFORMATION
IT’S A FINGER POINTING IT’S A FINGER POINTING SYSTEM SYSTEM
ONLYONLY
ACCURINT ISN’T ALWAYS ACCURATEACCURINT ISN’T ALWAYS ACCURATE
VERIFY! VERIFY! VERIFY!VERIFY! VERIFY! VERIFY!
HOMELESSNESS….HOMELESSNESS….A VOICE THAT IS NOT HEARDA VOICE THAT IS NOT HEARD
THEY ARE SOMEONE’S UNCLE, AUNT, SISTER, CHILDTHEY ARE SOMEONE’S UNCLE, AUNT, SISTER, CHILD
MOM AND DAD…… THEY WERE LOVED ONCE…….MOM AND DAD…… THEY WERE LOVED ONCE…….
IN THEIR DEATH YOU CAN PROVIDE THEM ONEIN THEIR DEATH YOU CAN PROVIDE THEM ONE
FINAL DIGNITY FINAL DIGNITY
MAYBE THEIR ONLY DIGNITY….MAYBE THEIR ONLY DIGNITY….
HOMELESSNESS….A VOICE THAT IS NOT BE HEARD……THEY ARE SOMEONE’S UNCLE, AUNT, SISTER, CHILDMOM AND DAD…… THEY WERE LOVED ONCE…….IN THEIR DEATH YOU CAN PROVIDE THEM ONEFINAL DIGNITY MAYBE THEIR ONLY DIGNITY….
HOMELESSHOMELESS
ROBERT SIMONROBERT SIMON
DOB: 12/15/1949 OR 5/26/1947DOB: 12/15/1949 OR 5/26/1947
SSN: UNKSSN: UNK
DOD: 7/12/2007DOD: 7/12/2007
SUBJECT IS A TRANSIENT WITH NO KNOWN SUBJECT IS A TRANSIENT WITH NO KNOWN FAMILY. HAD CONTACTS WITH YUMA AZ FAMILY. HAD CONTACTS WITH YUMA AZ POLICE HAD NO ADDRESS OR NOK INFO. POLICE HAD NO ADDRESS OR NOK INFO. PROPERTY IN INDIO (CLOTHING & MISC PROPERTY IN INDIO (CLOTHING & MISC ITEMS)ITEMS)
GATHER YOUR FACTSGATHER YOUR FACTS
GOOD SEARCH NEEDS A SOCIAL SECURITY GOOD SEARCH NEEDS A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER (SSN) NUMBER (SSN)
REVIEW POLICE AND CORONER REPORTREVIEW POLICE AND CORONER REPORT
IN THIS INSTANCE, A SSN WAS REPORTED IN THIS INSTANCE, A SSN WAS REPORTED TO YUMA P.D.TO YUMA P.D.
SENT SSN TO LOCAL SOCIAL SECURITY DEPT SENT SSN TO LOCAL SOCIAL SECURITY DEPT TO VERIFYTO VERIFY
RAN THE FOUND SSN THROUGH ACCURINT RAN THE FOUND SSN THROUGH ACCURINT
VERIFY YOUR FACTS
SOCIAL SECURITY DEPARTMENT VERIFIED THE DOB AS 5/26/47
SOCIAL SECURITY PROVIDED FAMILY HISTORY FATHER: SAMUEL SIMON
MOTHER: HAZEL H. JOHNSON POB: BEAUMONT, TX
PUZZLE PIECES OF INFORMATION
SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU KNOW
AS YOU GO
ANCESTRY SEARCHANCESTRY SEARCH
START BY LOOKING FOR THE DECEDENT START BY LOOKING FOR THE DECEDENT
FOUND DECEDENT BIRTH RECORD – DOB IS FOUND DECEDENT BIRTH RECORD – DOB IS CORRECTCORRECT
FOUND THE DECEDENT’S SIBLINGS.FOUND THE DECEDENT’S SIBLINGS.
SAMUEL O SIMON SAMUEL O SIMON DOB: 11/29/1952 DOB: 11/29/1952
CALVIN SIMON CALVIN SIMON DOB: 1/28/1954 DOB: 1/28/1954
JAMES SIMON DOB: 5/12/1950JAMES SIMON DOB: 5/12/1950
ACCURINTACCURINT
USE THE SIBLINGS NAME AND DOB AS SEARCH USE THE SIBLINGS NAME AND DOB AS SEARCH PERIMENTERS START WITH P.O.B. STATE.PERIMENTERS START WITH P.O.B. STATE.
IN THIS CASE, SAMUEL SIMON LIVING IN IN THIS CASE, SAMUEL SIMON LIVING IN BEAUMONT, TX CAME UP.- THE SAME CITY AS BEAUMONT, TX CAME UP.- THE SAME CITY AS DEC. WAS BORNDEC. WAS BORN
THIS HIT GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER THAT THIS HIT GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER THAT
WAS STILL CURRENT AND WORKINGWAS STILL CURRENT AND WORKING
TALKED TO THE BROTHER – WHO EXPLAINED TALKED TO THE BROTHER – WHO EXPLAINED HIS BROTHER’S LIFE AND EXPRESSED HIS HIS BROTHER’S LIFE AND EXPRESSED HIS WISHES TO HANDLE DISPOSTION.WISHES TO HANDLE DISPOSTION.
SUMMARYSUMMARYHOMELESS FOUND DEAD IN RIVERSIDE COUNTYHOMELESS FOUND DEAD IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY
HE WAS DISPLACED BECAUSE OF HURRICANES IN HE WAS DISPLACED BECAUSE OF HURRICANES IN TEXAS. THE FAMILY HAD TRIED LOOKING FOR TEXAS. THE FAMILY HAD TRIED LOOKING FOR
THE DECEDENT IN SAN ANTONIO, TX WHERE THEY THE DECEDENT IN SAN ANTONIO, TX WHERE THEY THOUGHT HE WAS.THOUGHT HE WAS.
THE FAMILY WASN’T SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT THE FAMILY WASN’T SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT THE DECEDENT WAS LIVING ON THE STREETSTHE DECEDENT WAS LIVING ON THE STREETS
THE FAMILY WERE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT THE FAMILY WERE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT WE FOUND THEM AND THEY TOOK CARE OF WE FOUND THEM AND THEY TOOK CARE OF
ARRANGEMENTS.ARRANGEMENTS.
Families from New Orleans were evacuated and still looking for loved ones
Many seniors from New Orleans were evacuated to the Texas Astrodome following Hurricane Katrina
A volunteer evacuation was called across south east Texas
EFFECTIVE INTERVIEWINGEFFECTIVE INTERVIEWING
LARRY GAFFNEYLARRY GAFFNEYDOB: 7/10/1946DOB: 7/10/1946
SSN: 569-64-8685SSN: 569-64-8685DOD: 6/27/2007DOD: 6/27/2007
NO KNOWN FAMILY LOCATED. NO KNOWN FAMILY LOCATED. FRIEND/ROOMMATE CLAIMS THAT DECEDENT FRIEND/ROOMMATE CLAIMS THAT DECEDENT HAD A SISTER BUT HE DOESN’T KNOW NAME HAD A SISTER BUT HE DOESN’T KNOW NAME
OR WHEREABOUTS. OR WHEREABOUTS.
ESTABLISH AND VERIFY YOUR FACTSESTABLISH AND VERIFY YOUR FACTS
RUN THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERRUN THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
- FIND THE ADDRESSES LISTED- FIND THE ADDRESSES LISTED
HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY DEPT. VERIFY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY DEPT. VERIFY SOCIAL AND GET FAMILY INFORMATIONSOCIAL AND GET FAMILY INFORMATION
RUN THE DECEDENT THROUGH YOUR RUN THE DECEDENT THROUGH YOUR RESOURCES -CLETS – CRIMINAL RESOURCES -CLETS – CRIMINAL
RECORDRECORD
IN THIS CASE: SEXUAL REGISTRANTIN THIS CASE: SEXUAL REGISTRANT
INTERVIEWINGINTERVIEWING
A LOT OF INFORMATIONA LOT OF INFORMATIONCOMES WHEN PEOPLE CAN OPENLY TALKCOMES WHEN PEOPLE CAN OPENLY TALK
AVOID YES OR NO QUESTIONSAVOID YES OR NO QUESTIONS
IN THIS CASE, SISTER CALLEDIN THIS CASE, SISTER CALLED INITIALLY WAS INITIALLY WAS DISTRUSTFUL AND COULDN’T DISTRUSTFUL AND COULDN’T
REMEMBER ANYTHING BUT WAS QUICK TO MENTION REMEMBER ANYTHING BUT WAS QUICK TO MENTION THAT THERE IS A DAUGHTER THAT THERE IS A DAUGHTER
MEMORY GETS BETTER MEMORY GETS BETTER WHEN THEY SEE THAT WHEN THEY SEE THAT YOU ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING WHILE THEY’RE TALKINGYOU ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING WHILE THEY’RE TALKING
THE SISTER REMEMBERED THE DAUGHTER’S THE SISTER REMEMBERED THE DAUGHTER’S NAME TO BE JOELL NAME TO BE JOELL
THE MOTHER’S MAIDEN NAME WAS COLLINS --THE MOTHER’S MAIDEN NAME WAS COLLINS --JOELL WAS BORN IN THE 1960’S.JOELL WAS BORN IN THE 1960’S.
ANCESTRY SEARCH ANCESTRY SEARCH FOR CALIFORNIA BIRTHS FOR CALIFORNIA BIRTHS FOUND: FOUND:
JOELL GAFFNEY DOB: 4/4/1968 BORN IN SAN DIEGO.JOELL GAFFNEY DOB: 4/4/1968 BORN IN SAN DIEGO.
ACCURINT SEARCH -ACCURINT SEARCH - FIRST NAME ONLY AND DOB FIRST NAME ONLY AND DOB IN SAN DIEGO, CA.IN SAN DIEGO, CA.
FOUND FOUND A JOELL CERCEDES: LKA: LAKESIDE, CAA JOELL CERCEDES: LKA: LAKESIDE, CA
VERIFY, VERIFY, VERIFYVERIFY, VERIFY, VERIFY
CHECKED DMV RECORDS IN CLETS FOUND CHECKED DMV RECORDS IN CLETS FOUND SAME ADDRESS AS ACCURINT FOUND.SAME ADDRESS AS ACCURINT FOUND.
SENT CONTACT LETTER IN THE HOPES TO SENT CONTACT LETTER IN THE HOPES TO INTERVIEW.INTERVIEW.
PUZZLE PIECES/SUMMARYPUZZLE PIECES/SUMMARY
THROUGH INTERVIEW THROUGH INTERVIEW YOU FOUND THE NEEDED YOU FOUND THE NEEDED INFORMATION TO PERFORM A MEANINGFUL SEARCH.INFORMATION TO PERFORM A MEANINGFUL SEARCH.
IN THIS CASEIN THIS CASE, I FOUND THE ADOPTED DAUGHTER , I FOUND THE ADOPTED DAUGHTER WHO HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS ADOPTED.WHO HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS ADOPTED.
THE MOTHER VERIFIED ALL MY FINDINGS THE MOTHER VERIFIED ALL MY FINDINGS
EXPLAINED THAT DECEDENT WAS A CHILD SEXUAL EXPLAINED THAT DECEDENT WAS A CHILD SEXUAL DEFIANT. DEFIANT.
THE DAUGHTER WAS LEGALLY ADOPTED BY CURRENT THE DAUGHTER WAS LEGALLY ADOPTED BY CURRENT HUSBAND AT 6 MOS.HUSBAND AT 6 MOS.
ANCESTRY AND ACCURINT BY THEMSELVES IS ANCESTRY AND ACCURINT BY THEMSELVES IS NOT ALWAYS VERY USEFULNOT ALWAYS VERY USEFUL
THE HITS YOU GET USING ANCESTRY/ACCURINT THE HITS YOU GET USING ANCESTRY/ACCURINT BECOME STRONGER OR WEAKER WITH MORE BECOME STRONGER OR WEAKER WITH MORE INFORMATION.INFORMATION.
REMEMBER TO UTILIZE THE REPORTS FROM THE REMEMBER TO UTILIZE THE REPORTS FROM THE HOSPITAL, SNF, CORONER, POLICE REPORT.HOSPITAL, SNF, CORONER, POLICE REPORT.DON’T FORGET TO INTERVIEW –INFORMATION DON’T FORGET TO INTERVIEW –INFORMATION COMES WHEN THEY FEEL FREE TO TALK TO YOU.COMES WHEN THEY FEEL FREE TO TALK TO YOU.
** ONE INSTANCE - I FOUND FAMILY BY GOING THE ** ONE INSTANCE - I FOUND FAMILY BY GOING THE EXTRA MILE AT THE SNF – EXTRA MILE AT THE SNF – ONE LEGACY FORM WAS FOUND IT HAD NOK ONE LEGACY FORM WAS FOUND IT HAD NOK INFORMATION.INFORMATION.
LONGTIME FRIEND THAT THOUGHT SHE KNEW LONGTIME FRIEND THAT THOUGHT SHE KNEW THE DECEDENTTHE DECEDENT
HARRIS LARSONHARRIS LARSON
DOD: 10/04/07DOD: 10/04/07
DOB: 01/28/1932DOB: 01/28/1932
SSN: 728-01-9774SSN: 728-01-9774
REFERRAL: Friend has known decedent for REFERRAL: Friend has known decedent for over 10 years. No known NOK, no will, no over 10 years. No known NOK, no will, no DPOA, no pre-need. She wants to keep the DPOA, no pre-need. She wants to keep the dog. Decedent did not have property when dog. Decedent did not have property when admitted to DRMCadmitted to DRMC
ALL SEARCHES BEGIN WITH SOCIAL SECURITY ALL SEARCHES BEGIN WITH SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS.NUMBERS.
RUN THE SOCIAL THROUGH ACCURINTRUN THE SOCIAL THROUGH ACCURINTPURPOSE: TO GET HISTORY OF WHERE THE SOCIAL PURPOSE: TO GET HISTORY OF WHERE THE SOCIAL
HAS BEENHAS BEEN
IN THIS CASE JUST 3 ENTRIESIN THIS CASE JUST 3 ENTRIES1991 – ADDRESS IN ANCHORAGE, AK1991 – ADDRESS IN ANCHORAGE, AK
1993 – 1999 ADDRESS IN DHS1993 – 1999 ADDRESS IN DHS
2001 – PRESENT AT CURRENT ADDRESS2001 – PRESENT AT CURRENT ADDRESS
GATHERING INFORMATIONGATHERING INFORMATION
SOCIAL SECURITY CAME BACK WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY CAME BACK WITH THE FOLLOWING:FOLLOWING:
FAMILY INFO WAS:FAMILY INFO WAS:
MOTHER’S NAME: BELMA OLSONMOTHER’S NAME: BELMA OLSON
FATHER’S NAME: ALFRED LARSONFATHER’S NAME: ALFRED LARSON
POB: WAHALLA, NORTH DAKOTAPOB: WAHALLA, NORTH DAKOTA
ANCESTRY SEARCH REVEALED:ANCESTRY SEARCH REVEALED:
SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX
NORWIN LARSON NORWIN LARSON DOD: 11/7/1996 SSN:517-26-4820DOD: 11/7/1996 SSN:517-26-4820
ORRIS LARSON ORRIS LARSON DOD: 2/1980 SSN:519-20-6040DOD: 2/1980 SSN:519-20-6040
BURNELL LARSON BURNELL LARSON DOD: 4/18/2005 SSN:540-30-DOD: 4/18/2005 SSN:540-30-48234823
THROUGH INTERVIEW – THROUGH INTERVIEW – LEARNED THAT DECEDENT’S BROTHER LEARNED THAT DECEDENT’S BROTHER RECENTLY DIED AND HE HAD LIVED IN RECENTLY DIED AND HE HAD LIVED IN
MONTANAMONTANA
Arden Burnell Larson
Funeral services for Arden Burnell Larson, 75, of Jordan, were held Monday morning, April 25, 2005, in the Veterans of Foreign Wars Hall in Jordan. Interment, with full military rites, followed in the Pioneer Cemetery in Jordan.
Mr. Larson died Saturday, April 16, 2005, at his home in Jordan.
He was born on Feb. 15, 1930, in Walhalla, N.D., to Alfred and Belma Larson. He lived in Walhalla until 1937 when his family moved to Polson. Burnell attended school in Polson and joined the Army in his senior year………His survivors include three children, six grandchildren, and one great-grandchild, Carrie (David) McNutt, their children, Erin and Ben of Phoenix, Ariz., Chlo Winters of Phoenix and her children, Daniel Lott of Jacksonville, Fla., and Melissa Lott of Winfield, Ala., and son Todd (Carol) Larson, their sons, Tim and Ryan (Shelly) Smith and their daughter, Carly of Miles City. He also is survived by numerous nieces and nephews; and many friends who will miss him dearly.
Mr. Larson was preceded in death by his father, Alfred Larson and mother Belma (Olson) Larson; his wife, Carol; and three children, David, Gwen and Jill.
SUMMARYSUMMARY
I FOUND THE NEPHEW I FOUND THE NEPHEW THAT IMMEDIATELY THAT IMMEDIATELY ACKNOWLEDGED HIS UNCLE LARSON THAT LIVED IN ACKNOWLEDGED HIS UNCLE LARSON THAT LIVED IN
CALIFORNIA.CALIFORNIA.
HE WAS HAPPY THAT HE WAS HE WAS HAPPY THAT HE WAS NOTIFIED OF HIS UNCLE’S NOTIFIED OF HIS UNCLE’S DEATH AND ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING DEATH AND ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING
ARRANGMENTS FOR DISPOSITION AND HANDLE PROPERTY ARRANGMENTS FOR DISPOSITION AND HANDLE PROPERTY ISSUES.ISSUES.
ANCESTRY AND ACCURINT ARE GOOD COMPLEMENTS
THE HITS YOU GET USING ANCESTRY/ACCURINT BECOME STRONGER OR WEAKER WITH MORE INFORMATION.
REMEMBER TO UTILIZE THE REPORTS FROM THE HOSPITAL, SNF, CORONER, POLICE REPORT.
DON’T FORGET TO INTERVIEW –INFORMATION COMES WHEN THEY FEEL FREE TO TALK TO YOU.
ONE INSTANCE - I FOUND FAMILY BY ASKING THEM TO ACTUALLY
CHECK THE MEDICAL RECORD IN WHICH THEY FOUND:
ONE LEGACY FORM - IT HAD NOK INFORMATION.
SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES ACUTE CARE HOSPITALS
• Remember when people are in SNF’s or acute hospitals that someone is paying for their stay.
• Get Medicare numbers – social security number and a letter – the letter means something
• Check out the social work notes –when someone’s been at a SNF for a long time check the social service notes from back when they were first admitted lots of time there is more information given.
• *A = retired worker• B = wife of retired worker• B1 = husband of retired worker• B6 = divorced wife• B9 = divorced second wife• C = child of retired or deceased worker; numbers after• C denote order of children claiming benefit• D = widow• D1 = widower• D6 = surviving divorced wife• E = mother of a child of a deceased worker• E1 = divorced mother of a child of a deceased worker• F1 = aged dependent father• F2 = aged dependent mother• *HA = disabled worker• HB = wife of disabled worker• HC = child of disabled worker• *J1 = special "over 72" benefit, has A and B• K1 = wife of "over 72" benefit, has A and B• *M = has Part B Medicare only, no SSA benefit• *T = has A and B Medicare, no SSA benefit• W = disabled widow• WA = railroad retirement
Medicare Numbers and What it means
You start with what you know – and expand– the more you know the more you’re able to fit the puzzle pieces together
Use Criss/Cross – gives you owner information and possible tenant names
Use 411.com to learn where the utilities are going to
Use CLETS to learn of any law enforcement contacts at the residence you’re going to
Use Ancestry to learn of possible siblings, marriages and children
Use Accurint and perform address histories to learn who is associated with that address
CONNECTING THE DOTS IS A LEARNED SKILLED
YOU CAN DO THIS WITH PRACTICE
WE ALL NEED A HELPING HANDWE ALL NEED A HELPING HAND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME