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Charlie Page’s
Ezine Advertising Live!
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The Right Ad The Right Ezine
The Right Offer The Right Timing
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About Charlie Page
Charlie Page is the author of over 10 eBooks on Internet marketing and the owner of the Directory of Ezines.
The Directory of Ezines is the world's first and best online resource for advertising and article marketing with ezines, also known as newsletters.
He is considered the leading expert on marketing with ezines.
Charlie began his online career as a copywriter. His specialty as a copywriter is writing sales letters, selling emails, and autoresponder
messages that cause readers to take action in record numbers. One of Charlie's sales letters garnered an amazing 34% conversion rate during the introduction of a very well-known eBook about Internet marketing.
In 2000 Charlie joined the Directory of Ezines as a member and began using ezine marketing to grow his business. The result? 18 months later he bought the company!
He continues to teach his DOE members how to create their own success story using ezines.
Charlie has contributed to books in print as well as eBooks, helping Robert Allen complete Multiple Streams of Internet Income as well as working with Jay Aaron and Jay Conrad Levinson (the father of Guerilla Marketing) to create their web and print project called Guerilla Marketing to the Masses.
You can see all that Charlie offers at his main site, Real World Tactics.
Important note from Charlie
Before reading the transcript below please download and print the Success Guide for this call.
The Success Guide is an interactive document that will help you get the most out of
this transcript and help you quickly and easily apply what you learn here.
The Success Guide is free – my gift to you.
You can get the Success Guide now by visiting this link.
http://www.EzineAdvertisingLive.com/guide
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The Eight Ezine Advertising Live Modules
1) Ezine Advertising Secrets Revealed: “Make Ezine Advertising Work for You”
2) The Right Ezine: “Endless Pools of Pre-Qualified Prospects”
3) The Right Ad Part I: “Write a Power Ad & Get It Seen By Millions”
4) The Right Ad Part II: “Advanced Ad Writing Techniques”
5) The Right Ad Part III: “Case Studies and Creating an Ezine Ad Campaign”
6) Track & Analyze Results: “Repeat the Winners and Achieve Real Success”
7) Advanced Techniques: “Expert Methods That Give you an unfair advantage”
8) FAQ: “Your Ezine Advertising Questions Answered By Charlie Page”
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Hello - I’m Charlie Page – welcome to this call and thank you for being
here. I really appreciate your business, and I appreciate you taking the time
to be on this call tonight.
Tonight we're going to cover the frequently asked questions from the
Ezine Advertising Live series of calls. We've covered a lot of ground. I think
it's something like 16 or 18 hours of audio, and I haven't even counted the
pages of transcripts, but I know that one transcript was 140 pages. So
there's a lot of material here, and I know that my teaching style, for lack of
a better term, is to give a lot of content at one time.
One of the most common comments that I've received, not really a
question, is that, "Wow, I've had to listen to the audio three times to get
everything you said, but I did and it was good and thank you." So I
appreciate that very much. I hope I haven't gone too quickly through the
content. I've tried to be thorough without going too quick or too slow. So I
hope I've achieved that goal.
I want to do a couple of housekeeping tasks before we begin with the
actual questions. We received something on the order of 125 questions
throughout the course of Ezine Advertising Live and especially many
questions in the last few days since I sent out the email to members with
the link to the Ask page. What I've liked about these questions has been
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that they're not your basic, "How can I download the PDF file?" questions.
You guys are doing a great job, and I want to really commend you, of
absorbing the material and asking the deeper questions.
So that was very encouraging to me, because as a person who cares
very much about your success, I want to make sure that I'm getting the
material through to you. And I know I'm not the strongest vessel to do that,
but it seems to be where we are that I'm teaching this. So I want to make
sure that I do communicate it clearly, and it seems like that's happening
because of the type of questions we've received.
I won't, obviously, answer 125 questions tonight. We'll be together for
about 90 minutes or perhaps a little bit longer. We'll probably not take a
break tonight but rather go right through the material, and I'm going to
answer about 30 or 35 questions depending upon how much time we do use
and how everything goes. I think we've got 32 questions lined up to
answer.
So I hope they're representative of the questions that you have, but I
want to say two things about that. Number one, every question that has
been asked, if it hasn't been answered already, will be answered in the next
four to five days. And number two; I want you to feel free to continue
asking questions. I'm going to create a page inside the members' area of
Ezine Advertising Live so that members can ask questions specifically.
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And even though tonight is the last call of Ezine Advertising Live, it
doesn't at all mean that the course is wrapped up and now I'm just going to
go on holiday and take a break and never answer another question. We will
be gone in September. We're leaving in late September to go out of the
country because our daughter is going to study abroad. And so we're going
to be in the UK getting her settled in, but I'll have Internet access and still
be answering questions.
And I want you to know that your Ezine Advertising Live membership
is permanent. It's lifetime. Having been online for ten years now, lifetime
with me kind of means more than it does with some other people. It really
means lifetime. We've got Directory of Ezines members who've literally
been members for nine years, ten years. That's how it will be with Ezine
Advertising Live.
Again, I'm just doing a little housekeeping before we get into the
actual questions. When we do Ezine Advertising Live again next year, and
we'll do live calls again next year, you're invited to return at no cost and
attend those calls if you want to grab the new audio files and PDF files. And
at any time, you can avail yourself of the resources within the member’s
area of Ezine Advertising Live. So I hope you feel like you've really received
a good value for what you've spent, because that was my goal.
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And let me cover a few other topics, and then we'll get into answering
some of these frequently asked questions.
The audio and transcripts for each call are going to always be located
on the page for that call. We'll continue to have that little list of Call 1, 2, 3,
4, 5, and you click that and all the resources for that call are going to be on
that page. That includes the audio, the transcripts, the success guide, and
soon the filled-in success guide. We're going to fill in the success guide for
you and provide a completed success guide on the page.
So resources that are specific to a particular call will be on that call's
page. Resources that are more general in nature are going to be on the
resources page. If you've logged in over the last couple of days, you've
noticed a new button which is the video button. That's going to point to,
and points to now, a page where the video training will take place. Those
videos are on their way very soon. In fact, my programmer has several
right now to put on the site.
In addition, I'm going to create what are called viral PDFs. Now this is
going to take a little time to create, but look for this on the resources – or
the affiliate page, rather, of Ezine Advertising Live. These are going to be
PDF documents that you can brand with your name, as in this document
written by me but brought to you by with your name, and then your affiliate
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link will go in the document. And you can give this document away freely.
They'll be good quality documents. We're not talking three pages, but we're
talking about good quality documents that people will really get benefit
from. It will help you build mailing lists. It will help you in many ways.
Specifically it will help you if you want to promote Ezine Advertising Live.
So with those little bits of housekeeping done, we're going to get into
our first question, and that is, "How does ezine advertising compare
with other paid traffic generation methods like pay per click, social
ads, and classified ads?"
That's a very, very good question, because we covered in one of the
calls recently that there are literally a dozen ways to drive traffic to a
website. Ezine advertising can be thought of as one of the pillars, one of the
foundational elements that you can use to drive traffic to your website. I'm
not advocating now nor have I advocated that you use only ezine
advertising, but I am advocating that you use it as one of your primary
methods and as a foundational method.
Now that being said, how does it compare to other paid traffic
generation methods? We did this actually in Call #2, as I recall, so you
might check that transcript if you want more information than I give you
tonight. Here's what I like about ezine advertising, and please bear in mind
I use all forms of advertising. I place banners. I buy pay per click ads. I
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place ezine ads, of course. I publish my own ezine. I write and distribute
articles and more. So I've used viral marketing, all forms of marketing.
What I like about ezine advertising is this. I find it to be more
targeted than almost any other form of advertising, because I can see an
ezine before I buy an ad in it, and I can determine what the content is of
that ezine. I can ask "What is the content of this ezine? Is it about sports?
Is it about medicine? Is it about anti-aging? Is it about social issues? What
is this ezine all about?" And I can make a very thorough determination of
the type of person who it going to read that ezine.
So, that allows me to do two things that other forms of advertising, in
my opinion, don't do. Number one, it allows me to target the audience of
the ezine, and number two, it allows me to target the audience based on
content. Let me draw the definition there. If there's an ezine that is read
primarily by women and I have a product that is consumed primarily by
women, even if the content, even if the subject matter of the ezine isn't
about the product I'm promoting, I'll promote in that ezine, because I know
that the audience is the right audience for me.
Now, the best-case scenario is when you can say, "Yes, the subject,
the content of the ezine is harmonious. It matches up with my product;
therefore I know the readers are interested in that product type, that type of
product." That's your best-case scenario.
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But there's a second type of targeting that I think people often
miss, and that is to consider the reader of the ezine. It may be that the
reader in the ezine would be interested in your product even though the
content has nothing to do with your product.
Let me give you a couple of examples. I like to play golf. No big
mystery or secret there. I think everybody who's listened to these calls
knows that I make golf references, and here's what I've found.
I've found that golfers have discretionary income, and they do certain
things in common. One of those things is travel. They travel quite a bit,
because they like to travel to places to play golf. They go to tournaments.
They go to watch tournaments being played. Sometimes they go to
participate in tournaments. Sometimes members of a club will band
together and take a road trip and go play scenic or historic golf courses.
So I have found through experience that travel products work well in
golf ezines. Why is that? It has nothing to do with golf except that it's
supplementary to the golfing lifestyle. People who golf often travel. People
who play golf often will have resources also in excess of the Average Joe,
shall we say, because golf is an expensive hobby.
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So people who play golf often will have some disposable income. That
means that they will do certain things that other people simply can't afford
to do. Part of that is financial planning. Therefore, insurance products have
worked very well in golf ezines, because these golfers are people who have
the type of money that they want to protect (an estate that they want to
protect) so they might do some estate planning.
What are some other examples just from this one little slice of the
ezine world, the golfing ezine? Well, these are people who participate in an
outdoor activity, and so it's a sport. They want to be healthy, so often
health products, particular products that will enhance some kind of stamina
or endurance, because golf is a sport that takes three or four hours to play,
to compete, or complete rather. Sometimes people get tired on what's
called the back nine, the second nine holes of a golf course.
So you see there are different ways to target with ezines than just,
"This is an ezine about marketing on the Internet or making money at home.
I have a making-money at home opportunity. I'm going to place an ad."
That's perfectly fine, and that's good targeting, but there are layers. There
are levels of targeting that can be done with ezines that can't be done as
effectively with other methods.
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To be completely candid, you can do some qualifying by using other
methods. One of the things that I've taught my consulting clients is to
qualify people in their pay per click ads by using terminology like "for left-
handers only," "available in Ohio only," or "California residents only can
apply," or "doesn't apply to California residents," or these types of things.
You can use some of that language.
Some of the language you use in your ad can be qualifying or
disqualifying when you use pay per click, although pay per click you're
limited to so few characters it's difficult to do that. Still it can be done, not
as effectively, in my opinion, as ezine advertising. So I like ezine advertising
compared to other traffic methods primarily because it's very, very targeted.
Another thing is that it generally costs less than other methods, and
when I say that it costs less, I'm talking about an overall cost. Obviously if
you're paying 25 cents per click, one click on pay per click costs less than
any ezine ad could possibly cost. But when I purchase ezine advertising for
$200 and generate 500 or 700 clicks, now my cost per click from that ad is
very low.
So I find that the costs are less with ezine advertising, and solo ads
often cost $80 or $90 versus $200 or $300. So in a sense what you're doing
with a solo ad is you're renting the entire mailing list of that publisher, and
you can do that sometimes for $80. There are some big publishers that
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charge a couple thousand dollars, but even so, if you look at it on a cost-
per-thousand basis, it's just a tremendously cost effective way to reach a
highly targeted audience.
Now those are powerfully charged words, "a highly cost effective way
to reach a highly targeted audience." Cost effective and targeted, those are
starting to hit my hot buttons. So I like ezine advertising for these reasons.
I'm not saying that it's superior to every other form of advertising, but these
are the reasons originally that I became involved with ezine advertising.
I find, too, that if you fashion the right offer to the right audience,
using the right ezine, and using the right timing – now those are gates you
must pass through – but if you get it right, it can create much larger results
than most other forms of advertising. I just don't see other forms of
advertising, other than sending out ads in ezines that can generate large
numbers of clicks. So I think that's another advantage.
Here's another thing to me is that you can say more in your ads
than with any other medium. Now, granted article marketing gives you the
ability to send out 700, 800, 1,200-word articles, but we all know, who have
done article marketing, that article marketing must be very subtle. It can't
be an overt pitch for the product. It has to be a three or five-point helpful
article that then leads the reader to think, "Hmm, I need more information
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about this," and the resource box at the bottom, which is generally five to
seven lines long, about like a fat classified, is where you do the selling.
So I don't think that's an accurate comparison, but that being said, I
think you can say more in your ads than with any other medium, particularly
if you're using a solo or a top sponsor ad. So I like that. I tend to be
expansive, as you know when I explain things or talk about things. ;-) And
so I like the expansiveness of a solo ad. I find 350 words to be just about
the right length for a solo ad. I sent a solo ad to my mailing list today of
350 words and had tremendous results with it. I had actually pared that
down from 650 words, so find you have room to express yourself.
I also have questions about some of these other forms of advertising
that this person suggested. And by the way, I'm not using anybody's name
tonight because I didn't really get permission to use people's name. This
person said classified ads and social ads and pay per click. I think I've
covered pay per click. I want to talk for just a moment about social ads
and classified ads.
First of all, classified ads in ezines and classified ads on
classified ads or on websites like Google AdSense are two different
things. I don't find classified ads to be highly effective in any medium if it's
your primary marketing tool. I do find classified ads in ezines to be highly
effective if they're supporting an ad campaign. If they're your primary ad
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method, not so much. If they're supporting an ad run as we discussed in
Call 7 of advanced techniques where you're placing solos and sponsors and
classifieds in order to repeat your message, then classifieds can be very,
very effective.
They can also be effective if you're giving away free merchandise.
That's a very effective technique. Classified ads on websites, AdSense type
ads, can be very effective if you've targeted the website your ad displays on.
That's a whole different discussion than we're having tonight, but it's one
I'm going to be covering in the near future, and it's something that's very,
very effective.
But in general, free classified ads don't work. They work for testing.
You can test and place free classifieds. It takes very little time. Test a
couple of headlines. See what you get, but you won't make sales that way.
So; free classifieds simply don't work to make sales.
Social ads do drive traffic, no question about it. My question is do
they create buyers? Do those visitors buy? I have friends galore who live
on YouTube and live on Facebook and live on these other sites and spend
lots of time on them, and it generates a lot of heat. It generates a lot of
activity. Does it generate any sales? I'm really not sure about that,
because the one thing, I think if I had to make a list of five things I've
learned online in ten years, one of the things on that short list would be
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traffic doesn't always mean more sales. Not all traffic is created equal, so it
creates traffic. Does it create sales? I'm not really sure.
So I hope that answers that question thoroughly enough. That's
comparing ezine advertising with other paid traffic generation methods.
Now, question number two, "Is ezine advertising effective for
localized products and services, such as a local workshop?”
That's a very good question. The answer is not really. Ezines are not
the first best choice when promoting something that is geographically
sensitive.
You know, I've been honest with you through the entire ezine
advertising process about what works and doesn't work based on my
experience, and I find that ezines are not the first best choice for localized
products and services. The reason for this is that ezines are generally
subscribed to from websites and anybody in the world, generally, can access
any website and subscribe. Certainly we have subscribers from many
countries around the world, and I'm thankful for that. But it would do me no
good to send a message to them about a seminar taking place in Houston,
Texas, or Atlanta. So they're not really targeted that way.
We are researching this at the Directory of Ezines, and we have found
some situations where the ezine publisher is trying to be geographically
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specific. There's one group that I'm talking with right now who claims that
their ezines are read by over 50 percent of the people in a particular
country. That's a pretty strong claim. I want to investigate that further.
That being said, I do think there are some situations like that out
there, and we're investigating that. I think pay per click with geographic
targeting and renting mailing lists remain the most effective methods of
doing localized or geographically sensitive products and services, like global
workshops, seminars, a drycleaner, whatever the case may be.
Of course, publishing an ezine is very helpful for local residents, but I
think pay per click with targeting in the ad to say for San Antonio residents
only is one way to go. Renting lists from companies like Postmaster Direct is
a very effective way to do geographical targeting. And a method that a lot
of people miss is to do purchase AdWords ads and the equivalent on Yahoo!
and other networks, and have them targeted by country. But that is very
broad. That's not Ohio or Dayton, Ohio. So I hope that answers that
question.
Question number three, "Do you think it's still possible to do an
ezine campaign for affiliate programs without your own website
when starting an online business, and if not, should you have your
own website or blog for affiliate programs or try to develop your
own product first?"
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This is a great question and one that we received quite a few times, so
let me answer it this way.
I don't think trying to develop your own product first is a good idea
before you do ezine advertising. Ezine advertising is wonderfully effective
for affiliate marketing without your own website. I used ezine advertising
when I first became a member of the Directory of Ezines to do this very
thing, and nothing really has changed in the process.
The process is that you have a product you want to promote. You
write an ad that you believe will create curiosity and sell the click, because
the ad's job is to sell the click. You place that ad in ezines where the
audience or the subject content or both match up with the product you're
promoting and you drive traffic to a site. Whether that's your own site or
whether that's an affiliate site, a product that you don't own but you sell on
a commission basis, doesn't really matter to the reader. So yes, it works
tremendously well for affiliate marketing without your own site.
That being said, there are big advantages to having your own
site, and I do recommend that people have their own site if they can. To
my way of thinking, the main reason to have your own website if you're an
affiliate marketer – now I want to narrow this down. If you're a person
who's doing affiliate marketing and the question becomes, "Should I have
my own website or should I not in order to market this affiliate program?" to
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my way of thinking, the advantages to having your own site are these.
Number one, you can track better, because you can install an ad tracker
on that domain, and you can then use that ad tracker to determine how
many clicks you get and more. So that's an advantage.
The second advantage is that if you're doing marketing beyond ezines
– and I'm trying to be comprehensive here in my answers. So if you're
doing article marketing as well as ezine advertising, then it's advantageous
to have your own website, because many article directories won't allow
you to place an affiliate link in the body of the article like you might
want to do.
And then the third and probably more important reason is to build
your own mailing list, because it's very important to have your own
mailing list if you can. It's just a super powerful way to develop a rapport
with a large group of people who then begin to trust you and will accept your
recommendations, because your recommendations are made in earnest.
So can you do it without a website? Absolutely. And if I were starting
over today, that's how I would start. Is it better to have your own website?
I think it's better because it gives you more options. Is it necessary to have
your own website? Absolutely not. I guarantee you, you could drop me
behind my desk tomorrow, take away all my websites, and let me have
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access to the Directory of Ezines and a little bit of money, and I would start
affiliate marketing immediately and have no problem doing it.
So that's the answer to that question, and I hope that was thorough
enough.
The next question, "Does ezine advertising work for certain types
of affiliate product or all types? Example – information products,
software, physical products, vitamins, handbags, etc. And does the
product have to be unique with fewer affiliates promoting it?"
I'm going to answer the “fewer affiliates” part of this question a little
bit later much more thoroughly, so I'm going to talk now about the other
question which is does it work for certain types of affiliate products or all
types?
I haven't found anything yet I can't sell using ezine advertising. I've
made that statement a number of times over the years and gone back to
check my records to make sure that I was telling the truth. And I can't find
anything so far that I haven't been able to sell successfully using ezine
advertising. Sometimes you have to be a little creative in how you do it, but
I have been very successful selling almost every product, including
handbags too, using ezine advertising.
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So I believe that it works for all types of products. The key, again, is
to match your product to the content or the audience or both of the
ezine. Sometimes you can match both but not always, and I think we've
covered the matching of audiences and subjects just a minute ago. So it
works for all types of products, and I haven't personally found any product
that it doesn't work for.
Let's move to the next question which is, "Is doing classified
advertising in ezines effective today or should we stick more with
solo ads?"
I wanted to take this question, even though I spoke a moment ago
about classified ads, because I feel as though there's a somewhat
dangerous mindset out there, and that is that only solo ads are effective.
I've been testing this, as a matter of fact, in the last few weeks and found
nothing could be farther from the truth.
Sponsor ads are tremendously effective, and classified ads, as a
supplement to an advertising campaign, are very effective as well. I use
classified ads in ezines to keep a presence in an ezine. In other words, I'm
running solo ads and sponsor ads and, if possible, publishing articles in a
particular ezine. I want to have classified ads in there, because I know there
will be people who won't read my solo ad who will kind of skip past my
sponsor ad but will read the classifieds. There are people who do that.
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There are people also who skip the classified altogether, don't really pay too
much attention to the solo ad, but they really look at that sponsor ad.
So the best case scenario for me, if I'm in an ezine that's really
working for me, is to have a presence in there with all three types of ads and
other marketing, too, like article marketing, so that I can reach everyone.
That's what I think classified ads do best. For a low cost, they give you a
very broad reach.
That being said, if you're going to use classified ads as your primary
method because that's all you can afford or that's the choice you want to
make, then make sure to focus on providing something free to the person
who responds to the ad.
One big mistake I see made in classified advertising is trying to take
a solo ad and squish it down into a classified ad. You just can't do it. A
classified ad is a headline and a benefit statement and a call to action, three
elements – headline, get their attention; benefit statement, make them want
what you have; call to action; tell them what to do to learn more. The best-
case scenario, in my opinion, is if you're giving away something free,
because people who like free things often will focus on the classifieds.
Now, that's a chicken and egg proposition. Is it because classified
often contain offers of free things, or is it because that's the nature of the
person? Nobody knows. I have no idea, but I do know this. When you
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place classified ads, if you place one that's trying to sell a product and
another one that's offering a free gift just for a visit, that second add will pull
better.
The next question is, "Where are classified ads posted in the
ezine? Is there a special page for all classified ads?"
At first I didn't understand this question, but then I received it four
other times, and I think that's there some confusion out there about
classified ads in ezines as opposed to other types of classified ads, so I
briefly will cover where they're placed.
There's usually a section at the bottom of the ezine where classified
ads are grouped. Very rarely will you see a publisher who spreads classified
ads out through the ezine. That's the position of a sponsor ad, at the top,
the middle, or the bottom of the ezine, but generally speaking classified ads,
just like in your newspaper, will be congregated.
They'll be gathered together in one location, and that's generally at
the bottom of the ezine. Don't confuse classified ads in ezines with classified
ads on a website. They're totally different.
Here's another little tip. I think I covered this in the advanced
techniques call, but I'll give it to you here. If you see an ezine that you're
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interested in and it runs more than six classifieds per issue, I would consider
thinking twice about placing a classified in there.
There's just a certain length, a certain depth, after which people stop
reading or stop paying attention. An ezine that runs three to five classified
ads is perfect for placing a classified ad. If they run six or more, they run 20
or 12, I would avoid them generally speaking. If it's the perfect match to
your product, you can make an exception to that.
The next question is, "How do I determine which ezines to use?"
We covered this in Call 2 in great depth, and I would suggest taking a
close listen or read to the Call 2 content. But essentially the process comes
down to a few steps. You match the content or the audience or both of
the ezine to your product. So if you have a health-related product, you want
that health-related product to either go to an ezine where the subject
content is about health or longevity or anti-aging or recovering from disease,
whether it's prevention or cure, or you want it to go to an audience you feel
will really benefit from that product or both.
So you match your product to the content of the ezine or the
audience. You determine the costs. You choose the type of ad you
want, and you place the ad. It's really as easy as that. Determining which
ezines to use comes down to what is the ezine about and who reads it,
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because ultimately readers are the people who buy your products. Readers
are the people who click the link.
So I've placed ads in ezines before that were just completely
counterintuitive. I'm not recommending that as a primary strategy for you,
but it does sometimes work. If I have an ezine that I know is read by men
of a particular age, and I have a product that appeals to men of a particular
age, even if the subject content has nothing to do with what I'm selling, I'll
often try an ad in there.
If you think about television for a minute, you'll see that programs on
television often have ads that are aimed at the audience of the show in
question, but sometimes they are also tied into the show in question. So in
a like way, you can target a couple of different ways when choosing ezines.
Let's change now to a couple of questions about writing ezine ads. "I
have a question concerning the six parts of a solo ad. Should solo
ads always be in this order?"
In the call about writing power ads, super ads, I talk about the six
parts of a solo ad – the headline, the claim, the benefit statements, the
reason why, the proof, and the call to action.
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What I didn't say as thoroughly as perhaps I should have, and this
question points that out, is that these don't all have to be in each ad. In
addition, they don't have to be in that order.
But my goal in giving you the six parts of a solo ad was several-fold.
First, I wanted you to understand that the solo ad can be easily divided into
separate parts. It just makes it easier to write if you think about it that way.
If you think, "Well, okay, today I'm going to really gather up my benefit
statements and make they're as strong as they can be. And later this
afternoon, I'm going to write my call to action." Now you knit these pieces
together, and you come out with a good solo ad.
It's a really great place to start to use the six-part formula. The key is
to make sure you ad reads well if you skip one of the elements. If you're
going to skip adding proof, and most solo ads unfortunately don't have
proof, and by proof I mean some form of testimonial generally works best as
proof. So if you're not going to put a testimonial in there, "Joan in River
City, Oregon says this," or better yet a note from Joan, as proof in your solo
ad, then that's okay. You can still run a great solo ad.
A lot of my ads don't have proof in them, but I know that that ad will
work, because I read through it, and I know what to look for in an ad. And I
can see that it is complete and it flows and feels complete without the proof
section.
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So if you want to mix and match these sections, take some out, put
some in, that's fine. Obviously the headline has to be there every time, and
the call to action has to be there every time, and the benefits have to be
there every time. But otherwise, you can play with these elements and see
what you like and how you like to write ads.
Again, most of my ads don't follow this format today, but all of my
ads followed this format when I invented this formula. Many years ago, all
of my ads followed this format, and they were very successful. So it's a
great place to start, but don't be constrained by it.
The next question is about super ads. "Writing a super ad sounds
simple, but in reality it appears to be a combination of factors like
tracking, testing, modification, doing it again. My question is this.
What are the steps, checklist, or summary of the process to super ad
status?"
Good question.
First of all, what's a super ad? A super ad is an ad that works almost
every single time, and when I say "works," I mean it creates profit almost
every single time. I know a very few of any ads that work every single time,
but I do know of ads, and I call them super ads, that work almost every
time.
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I sent an ad out today for my 123 Ad Writing package, and that ad
was written two-and-a-half years ago. I've tested and tweaked it and
tracked it and massaged it and turned it into a good ad. And I've tested
every single element of it. I consider it to be a super ad.
You may have received it today. The headline is "Better Ads = MORE
Visitors!" and you'll notice "more" is in all caps, and the equal sign is there
instead of the word "equals." Those are things I tested. The reason it's a
super ad is my headline started out "Do More Visitors Equal More Sales?" I
found that asking it as a question wasn't very effective, so I changed it
around, and I said "Do Better Ads Equal More Visitors?" And then I changed
it again, and then I turned it into a statement instead of a question. And
eventually I came up with "Better Ads = MORE Visitors!" and an exclamation
point. That works very well.
So the steps I used on that were that I wrote the ad. I placed the ad.
I tracked the results, and because it was profitable (if it's not profitable, I'm
not going to consider it to be material worthy of being a super ad) I ran it
again, and I changed one element. And that element was the headline. I
did that several times. Each time, I want to be clear, the ad was profitable,
but it was increasingly profitable because I was changing the headline up.
So I changed the headline until I felt I had the best headline I was
going to get, and then I started working on the other parts of the solo ad. I
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started working on the claim. I made stronger claims and lighter claims. I
found that a certain claim worked better. I tested my benefit statements. I
made a long list of benefits and a short list of benefits, and I placed the ad
and tested it both ways.
Now, again, underpinning all of this is the fact that every time I placed
the ad it was profitable, and by profitable I mean I made more money than I
spent.
I tested out the reason why. I tested out the proof. I tested out the
call to action. In this particular ad I deleted the proof. I didn't need it, in
part, I think, because I'm known as somebody who writes pretty good ads,
and so there's that credibility there. I didn't really need that third party
proof, that third party testimonial, and I found it created more words than it
needed to. So I cut it out, but I kept other elements because I had tested
them.
So this is really a very important question. What is the process of an
ad becoming a super ad? A super ad is an ad that works almost every time,
and the way you make a regular ad a super ad is you write it, you place it,
and you track the results. And then if it's profitable, you change one
element at a time until you have that element, the headline, the benefits,
and the call to action, as strong as it can be, comparing result against result,
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and then you end up with what's called a super ad, or some people call it a
control ad.
A control ad is the ad you run all the time. You know the results it's
going to get, and when you change one element, you compare changed
results against the old results. And if you want to change the ad again, the
new one becomes the control. So don't let the terminology through you off
too much. Basically it's a great ad. It's an ad that works all the time, and
you feel like you you've fine-tuned it to the point where you're confident
when you send it out it's going to do well.
Okay, the next question, "How do I prepare a plain text hybrid
ad? How do I physically set up on my computer so I can do a plain
text/HTML hybrid ad?"
First of all, what is a plain text/HTML hybrid ad, because that's a
mouthful there? Well, it's an ad that's created in an HTML format so it can
be sent via HTML-enabled ezines and read in email programs that can read
HTML, but it looks like a plain text ad except that it has some special
formatting. You can used bold or italics or you can underline. Or you can
have links that don't say "click here." They don't say http:// and all of that
but rather they simple say "to save $500 today click here."
That's what I call a hybrid ad. It's plain text looking but created in
html. In order to create such an ad, you'll need an HTML editor. Now you
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can use Word. You can type up an ad in Word and you can go File>Save As
and choose a different file format, choose the HTML file format, because you
see HTML is essentially just a type of a file.
You know that a spreadsheet is different from a web page, and a web
page is different from a Word document. And a Word document is different
from a PowerPoint presentation.
But what makes these things different in large measure is the type of
file that they are. Of course, they program they're created in is important,
too, but the type of file, they have different file extensions – .html or .doc or
.txt. They're different types of files.
So creating a hybrid ad is really just typing up a plain text ad in Word,
applying the formatting you want, and then saving it as an HTML format.
You can do that in Word.
You can also do it in what's called an HTML editor. These HTML editors
run the gambit on price. The one that I like and that I recommend to my
clients is called Coffee Cup, just like you drink coffee in the morning,
www.CoffeeCup.com
They have a free trial version, and if you buy the buy the product I
think it's like a whopping $35 or $45. It's really not expensive, but I find it
the easiest to use for people who aren't really well versed in HTML editors.
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You probably wouldn't want to start with Dreamweaver or FrontPage. Those
are tough to use if you're starting out. I find Coffee Cup to be pretty easy to
use, so that's www.CoffeeCup.com
Here's another question about writing ads. "I'm having trouble
distinguishing between a claim and a benefit. I feel pretty sure I
understand benefits, what's in it for me, but after reviewing the
transcript, the language sounds similar." Okay, that's understandable.
I talked about the parts of a solo ad a few minutes ago, and one of them
was benefits and one of them was a claim. So how is that different? What's
a claim, and what is a benefit?
Well, a benefit is what a product does for a person as opposed to a
feature which is just what the product does. So if your product helps a
person do a thing, that feature needs to be tied into a benefit that really
matters to them. These benefits are generally associated with what we call
super motivators, a fear of loss or a promise of gain. We talked about this
extensively in Call #3 and Call #4.
Here's the difference. A claim is the specific thing you are saying
your product will do for the customer.
Let me give you an example. "If you take this pill, you will lose
weight." That's a claim, but it's not a benefit. Living longer is a benefit that
ties into the fear of loss, the fear of losing your life. So the claim is, "Take
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this pill. You'll lose weight. If you're obese, you need to lose weight. So
take this pill. You'll lose weight and live longer." So living longer is the
benefit. What they do with that longer life, they play more golf, they see
their grandchildren graduate, they take a trip to Europe, they run a
marathon, those are all things that you can weave into the copy. But the
real benefit is living longer.
Here's another. More energy is a benefit that's tied into a promise of
gain. So you're selling a weight loss product, for example, not necessarily a
pill, but any weight loss product. "Use this product and you'll lose weight."
That's a claim. You're claiming that if they use your product they'll be able
to lose weight more easily. It's not a benefit. Losing weight on its own is
not a benefit, but the benefit is more energy. That's a promise of gain
associated benefit, because it's the gain of a better life. It's a gain of a
better lifestyle.
Do you see the difference? I really want to draw this again. So we
have a product that claims it will help you lose weight if you use it. That
might be a juice, a pill. It might be a powder. It might be a patch. It might
be an exercise book. It might be a number of things. Let's say that losing
weight is the thing. We claim that our product will help you lose weight
more easily.
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So why would a person want to do that? Well, they might want to live
longer. They might want to have more energy. If they want to live longer,
then our approach is that we're selling the, using a fear of loss approach or
what's called a negative approach, we're saying, "Don't risk your life. Don't
be in fear of losing your life. Live longer by losing weight and being
healthier."
Or we could sell them using a promise of gain approach by saying,
"You could have a better life. Imagine the energy. Wake up feeling
refreshed. Feel like you felt 25 years ago. Be the peppiest guy at your high
school or college reunion," whatever it may be. So there can be many
benefits, but only really one claim in an ad. When people start claiming too
much in an ad, too many claims, then that's when confusion sets in.
If you need more on this, I encourage you to revisit Calls 3 and 4.
Here's another question. "Should I change the prewritten solo or
sponsor ads provided by the network marketing system, as there are
hundreds of people vying for the same ezines?"
Oh, yeah, absolutely a thousand times yes. Change those ads.
Don't run the same ads as everyone else by all means. The reason you're
taking this training, the reason that I offered to this group my 123 Ad
Package when it was off the market, the reason I offered to review ads is
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that the quality of the ad makes all the difference. And if you're using the
same ad as everyone else, you really put yourself at a great disadvantage.
Let's move to the next one, and that is, "Who do you recommend
for marketing my product? I've tried a hundred thousand mailing
lists, etc., with not one answer. I feel like they're ripping me off. To
me this is the biggest problem. I need your help."
I get this quite a bit, too. This is a person who bought either – now I
haven't spoken to them, but I feel confident that they've either bought
leads, or they bought one of these 100,000 mailing lists on CDs for $25.
Obviously the CD for $25, the mailing list is totally a rip off, and you
wouldn't want to do that.
Buying leads can work in some businesses, but more and more we're
hearing that it really doesn't work and that people spend a lot of money
buying leads. Now the reason buying “leads” doesn't work so well is this.
The people who gather these leads, even if they're ethical, even if they're
gathering them using a double opt-in process or the people have to fill in a
form and then click a link in the email verifying they want the information,
these leads are often sold to many different people.
So the professional marketers, the people who already have their
systems in place, they'll buy these leads, and they'll drop these leads into a
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system that is ready to go right now, and it's going to start firing emails off
every day, every day, every day to these people. And they're going to
become inundated with emails.
Now, if you buy such a list and it takes you a few days to figure out
how to send to them, and it take you a few more days to figure out exactly
what to say to them, and you wait more than three or four days or worse yet
you wait a week or two weeks to send anything to them, they have
probably received 100 emails in that week, because that lead's been
sold to 20 different people who have been sending emails every day for a
week. So that could be a lot of email.
So if you're going to buy leads, have your marketing in place by all
means up front and realize what you're really getting. And always ask how
many people are getting these same leads that I'm getting. Now, that
doesn't mean that I'm complete opposed to buying leads, but I am saying
more and more I'm seeing evidence that people are getting hurt by buying
leads.
His real question was, "Who do you recommend for marketing
your product?" And here is my answer.
Only you can market your product effectively online.
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That's just the bottom line. I've seen thousands of people come and
go in ten years in different programs, doing different things, many of them
saying the same thing, and that is they buy into this, "Just buy my program
and we'll do all the work for you thing." And that really just doesn't work.
You've got to learn how to market online.
At least you have to learn how to advertise, because advertising is
what drives visitors to a website, and that's the missing element.
You notice that none of these programs today are offering to send
visitors to the site for you. They'll do everything else. They'll have the
autoresponder, and they'll do this and that. They're not sending the visitors,
because if they were going to do that they'd send them to the site for
themselves. That's perfectly understandable, but ultimately you've got to do
it yourself.
Now, on Call 7, the call we did last week on Ezine Advertising Live, I
talked about what's called a private ad partnership, and that's a very
powerful way to combine with other people who have similar interests and to
do some very specific marketing.
And in that scenario, you can have other people do some of the work
for you. I'm developing a private ad partnership right now, and for those
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people who participate with me, I'll be writing the ads, placing the ads, doing
a lot of the work, so that's kind of doing the work for them.
But ultimately, even those people in the partnership with me, they're
going to need to know what's going on, and they've going to need to
understand everything that's happening, because that's just the way
business works.
This is not like Madison Avenue where you can go with your checkbook
in hand and say, "I've got this widget, and I need to sell it. Can you create
the whole advertising campaign for me?" The Internet really doesn't work
that way, because unfortunately, most of the people who do that aren't
doing a great job or there are some other problems. So ultimately, you've
really got to do this work yourself.
Next question, "Can we ask the ezine publisher for a small test,
for example a solo ad to a portion of the subscribers before going
out to the full list in order to save money and test that ezine? Is
that a good idea?"
That's a great idea. It's a very good idea. You should know that only
larger publishers will be able to handle this request because the technical
part of that is that it's very hard for a smaller publisher to send to a subset
of his or her list.
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In other words, a publisher who has 50,000 or 70,000 subscribers is
generally not going to have the technology in place to where they can pull
10,000 out and send it.
Usually larger publishers can do that, and they often say that in their
media kit that they can do this. You want to consult their media kit. I've
put a few media kits in the resources page of the Ezine Advertising Live
members' center so that you can review them and get used to them.
A couple of things about doing this, you're not going to be able to send
1,000 and test that way. You'll probably need to buy multiple thousands.
These larger publishers often cost $2.50 or $3.00 or $6.00 per thousand to
send, so they're not going to, for $6.00, handle an ad buy.
But if you want to buy 20,000, sometimes they will, and that's a
smaller investment on a larger list. So it's a great idea and something that
should be pursued.
The next with is, "How would I know whether the ezine I've
chosen really works before putting in any ads?"
Well, that's a very good question and something we covered in some
depth on Call #2. I would begin by saying there are just no guarantees with
any type of advertising online.
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There are people who will say they guarantee results, but I haven't
seen that work out too well, so there really are no guarantees. It's a matter
of, as with all things in business, analyzing the risk versus the reward and
determining whether you're a good candidate to take that risk.
But I would say that there are things that you can do to help minimize
the risk, and that is look for testimonials on the publisher's website.
If the publisher had happy advertisers, successful advertisers, they're
going to want to put those people front and center. So take a look on their
website and see do they have testimonials. If they don't, contact them and
ask them for references. Ask them for testimonials, and ask them if your
type of product works well in their ezine. Now, often you'll need to use a
contact form on their website for this, because a lot of publishers will change
up their email addresses fairly often, because they get lots of spam.
So contact them and ask. Look for testimonials, and that's a great
way to know in advance whether the product you're promoting might work
in that ezine.
Here's a question that we've received probably more than any other,
and it is about saturation. "I'm wondering if it's common, and if so, how
common, for advertisers for a particular opportunity to over saturate
an advertising platform such as ezines. In my case, I'm involved with
this particular product. I'll decline saying which one it is, and I know it's
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very popular with thousands of people all looking to ezines as a method for
success. Should I at all be concerned, and what is your best advice to
separate myself from the pack if outspending them is not an option for me
at this time?"
Well, outspending them would be a poor option, because you're return
on investment would be so low as to make it not advisable. But here is my
answer, and it's an important one. I think it's an important question.
It is not possible to saturate an advertising medium.
You might feel like it is because you're subscribing to certain types of
ezines or you're in a community of people who are promoting this product as
well as you are, but it's not possible to overwhelm a type of advertising with
one particular product.
These products that are out there today, they generally have three
initials you know, they're popular, but let me tell you -- I've been doing this
for about ten years now, and I've seen products come and go that are much
larger than these products.
There have been programs that have been much, much larger than
today's most popular programs, even though the people on the Internet,
even though there are more people on the Internet now than there used to
be in the old days, and I say that old days like six or seven years ago, there
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were some products that it just seemed like everyone was involved with.
And advertising in ezines still worked very well for those, because you can't
saturate it.
But if you're in such a program, you must use unique ads. That is
one of the keys. You must use ads that are unique and are different. The
medium doesn't get saturated as much as the affiliates or associates who
overuse the ads don't do well.
Again, it's not the medium. It's not a particular ezine or ezine
advertising or pay per click advertising or any one medium that gets
saturated. But the mistake that gets made and blamed on that is the
mistake is using the same ad as everyone else, because the person reads
that ad, and then they immediately prejudge, "Well, I'm not interested in
that program."
So you have to stay away from the same language. The key is the ad
not the program.
The next question is similar to that question, and that is, "Is it
possible to run out of fresh ezines to advertise in or to saturate
them?" Again, a similar question but not identical.
The answer is no, and I'll tell you why. People mistakenly think that
they need a list of 150 ezines to choose from in order to succeed with ezine
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advertising, when the reality is that they only need three or five good
ezines, well-matched ezines, in order to succeed, to do very, very well.
It's true if you have three or five that are very well suited to your
offer, and you run in those frequently, you will do better than if you
spread that same number of ads out among a wide variety of ezines.
Now, why is that true? It's true for a number of reasons. Number
one, the ezines are very well suited, as I said. Number two, repetition is the
mother of learning, and when people see your ad in an ezine several times
they begin to trust you because they begin to recognize that. And they
begin to feel more comfortable.
Now, let me say this, that I would never advocate running an ad more
than once if the ad wasn't profitable. I only repeat profitable ads. I'm not
going to take a loser and run it five times thinking, "Well, the fifth time's the
charm," because that doesn't work.
If you run and ad and it doesn't get results, then something's wrong
with the ad or the match between the ad and the ezine or another factor,
and you can begin to analyze that. We talked last week in Call #7 about
how to diagnose problems with an ad.
But I think you only need three or five good ezines to of very well, and
the key is to find those not to find 100. So finding fresh ezines to advertise
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in, the question carries within itself the premise that you need a lot of them
when you don't. Also, another consideration is that offline publishers are
coming online in waves. It's huge. More and more we're seeing offline
publications come online and start publishing online newsletters which are
ezines.
Some people say ezine, that's fine with me, but to fact of the matter is
online newsletters, ezines, are green. They're environmentally friendly. No
paper involved -- just little digits that get sent over the computer. And
because of that, offline publisher are going online much more aggressively.
Going online for an offline publisher means they can repurpose their existing
content. They slash their costs to almost zero. It's ecologically friendly. It's
green, and that's very popular right now, and it's easy to do because they
have staff and they can farm out if they don't. They technology is proven.
It's reliable.
So I would absolutely say that running out of fresh ezines to advertise
in or saturation or these types of things just are not real problems.
It's like being concerned about taking the same article and putting it
on five article directories. I hear this from time to time. "How much should
I change my article before I submit it to a second article directory?" The
answer is “don't change it at all”. The same article, if it's a unique well-
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written article, placed on three or five or 20 article directories does not
create any form of problem for the person who wrote the article.
It's when you take these private label articles that are exactly the
same, put your name on it, and 1,000 other people are doing the same
thing. And then everybody in the group is sending it out to 20. Now you've
got a problem, because many people are claiming authorship of the same
content.
If you've got original articles, you don't have a problem.
If you want to do ezine advertising, you don't have a problem. There
are lots of them out there.
Here's another question. "I'm selling a popular product." Again, I'm
going to decline to mention the product, and upline of this person has
recommend that they sell the product without mentioning its name because
people reading the ad might Google the name and see negative reports
about it. That's perfectly understandable. I know this product, and it's a
good quality product. So it's not a pyramid scheme. It's not a problem
product, but it's a product that's popular because it pays a high commission.
And so any time there's money like this involved, it's a contentious thing
sometimes.
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So the question is, "Should I mention the product in the ad or
not?"
The answer is absolutely not.
Don't mention the name of the product in the ad, and the reason for
that is twofold. Number one, if you mention the name of the product in the
ad, you break the curiosity. You satisfy the curiosity you're trying to build.
The point of the ad is to do what? It's to sell the click.
The only way you can sell the click is to make the person want to know
more, and the way you make them want to know more is to make them
curious. That's the primary method. It's not the only method, but it's the
primary method. Mentioning the name of the product absolutely quenches
their thirst. It absolutely takes away the curiosity and works against you, so
don't mention the name of the product.
Here are some steps you can do, if you're in a popular program, to
avoid this problem. Review the ads that have been sent to date, and if you
can at all determine which ones have been very profitable, consider taking
some elements from them if these ads are available to you freely to use, but
if not, don't use any of them. Don't use the same approach at all. Find a
new approach.
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I believe it was in Call 3 that we talked about ways to create ad ideas,
ideas for your ads. There are an unlimited number of ideas, a huge pool of
ideas available for you for advertising any product with a new twist. The
techniques I taught in that call will absolutely put you in a position to be able
to quickly come up with 15 or 25 ways to sell any product, so don't use the
old approach. Find a new approach.
Try to use curiosity as much as you can, but don't use the name of the
product, because that satisfies the curiosity. You job is to build the
curiosity.
The next question is, "It would be really helpful to have some kind of
benchmark to know when it becomes time to go from a small ad budget to
a medium ad budget and a large ad budget. It's one thing to get clicks but
another to convert, so is there a measure of," he put ECP, and I'm not sure
exactly what that means. I think it means ezine cost per thousand, "that
can be used as an indicator?"
Let me answer this question. Let me rephrase the question which is,
is there a benchmark that you can know that you can use to know
when to spend more money to go from a small budget to a larger
one?
Well, it is purely profit that drives these decisions.
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If your ad is profitable, then reinvesting part of those profits is very
wise. I don't reinvest all the profit from an ad, because I'm doing this for a
living. So if I'm an affiliate marketer, let's say, and I spend $100 for an ad
and I earn $400 on that ad, if I'm trying to rapidly grow, then I might take
that $400 and reinvest it. But you know, I've probably got a bill to pay, so
I'll take half of that and reinvest it, and then do that again and again and
again.
Those are decisions you can make depending upon your
circumstances. But profits absolutely drive these decisions. I mean, if you
gave me a dollar and I handed you back $5 or $50, how many times would
you do that? Well, you'd do it as often as I'd let you, so the question sort of
answer itself in the respect that if you've run and ad and it's profitable, why
would you not repeat that ad very quickly?
But there's one thing inside his question that needs to be addressed,
and I know you've heard me say this may times, and that is that clicks and
sales are different. Only a website can make a sale in general. There are
very few exceptions to this, and only the ad can get the click.
The job of the ad is to get the click. The job of the site is to sell the
product, to close the deal, so it's a one-two punch. It's a left and a right.
The ad creates curiosity, gets them to take action, which is clicking the link
in the ad. Now the website takes over. Its job is to satisfy the curiosity,
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convince the person it's time to act now, close the deal and get them to take
action to purchase the product. It's a very simply one-two back and forth.
Here's another question, and we only have a couple left. "How
would we best proceed on a truly minimal budget?"
Unfortunately, she didn't put down how truly minimal it would be. I
would say this. Sponsor ads can be purchased in large ezines for as little as
$25. If your budget is less than that, certainly it's not time for you to be
doing ezine advertising just yet.
But I would say that you can use sponsor ads instead of solo ads. you
can do article marketing instead of ezine advertising for the time being and
wait until you can afford it, or you can find a partnership where you can
partner together with people and then your ad dollars go farther, because
you can afford to buy larger ads in larger publications.
What I would recommend doing is I wouldn't recommend trying to
trade time for money by placing a bunch of free ads or that type of thing.
So if you have a truly minimal budget, and again, they didn't delineate what
minimal means, then I think you look for a smaller ad type or smaller ezines
and go with that approach.
Next question -- "How best to track results of any given ad?"
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We talked about ad tracking in detail in Call #6, and I would say
always to use an ad tracker, absolutely always.
You know, I learned a lesson on this, this week. Or I didn't learn. It
was reinforced this week, and I'm so glad I use an ad tracker. I woke up
one morning just full of inspiration that I had come up with a new set of
keywords for my pay per click campaign, so I rushed to my computer and I
grabbed my Google AdWords account and added these keywords just fully
convinced that I'd found a hidden treasure.
Fortunately, because it's my habit, I put a tracker on every one. 250
clicks later, nothing. I mean nothing. It's fine. It was a minimal
investment. It was no problem at all, but let me tell you, I missed it. I
mean, I swung as hard as I could. The ball went through the strike zone,
and I was out of there.
I would never have known that if it weren't for the ad tracker.
I would never have known. Sure, Google would have said, "You've
received this number of clicks," and that's fine, but I went in my shopping
clicks, and I could see that although I had received clicks, I had made zero
sales.
So my moment of inspiration was something different. I'm not sure
what it was, but I absolutely think that every ad should be tracked.
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Now, here's another question. "I was told by a couple of ezine folks,"
not sure who those are, "that an ad would have to run six or seven
times before I'd get any response. Is there any truth to this?"
Oh, no, absolutely not.
I hope I've made clear throughout all of Ezine Advertising Live that the
goal is to measure twice and cut once, and by that I mean you take care in
choosing the right ezine. You take care in writing the best ad you can. You
take care in not spending too much of your budget, and then you go for it.
You place the ad. And those ads should be profitable. The first ad should
be profitable.
I would never, ever, ever run an ad six times if it weren't profitable. I
would never run that ad a second time. If I have an ad that gets no clicks, I
contact the publisher and say, "You know, you've got a great publication. I
like it. I read it. I see ads in it. I ran an ad, and I got nothing. And I'm not
sure what happened. Would you be open to the idea of running this ad
again at no cost? And if you do and if it works, I'm going to be buying more
ads from you." Now, they won't always do that, but sometimes they do, and
often I would say they do.
And then I'm going to provide them different ad copy. I'm going to
change my ad copy around and bring that call to action way up top in the
ad, use a very strong headline, and now I'm going to see what happens.
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But six or seven times before any response? Absolutely not. I would
disagree with that with every bit of my experience, and I could disagree
more strongly.
Well, my friends, that's it. That is the last question for tonight. This
has been Call 8 of Ezine Advertising Live. I'm Charlie Page. I really
appreciate you being here, and I hope you have a great night.