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OkTrends: Dating Research from OkCupid Join us! Exactly What To Say In A First Message September 14th, 2009 by Christian Rudder Tweet 345 Ok, here’s the experiment. We analyzed over 500,000 first contacts on our dating site, OkCupid . Our program looked at keywords and phrases, how they affected reply rates, and what trends were statistically significant. The result: a set of rules for what you should and shouldn’t say when introducing yourself. Online dating advice at its best. Let’s go: Rule 1 Be literate Netspeak, bad grammar, and bad spelling are huge turnoffs. Our negative correlation list is a fool’s lexicon: ur, u, wat, wont, and so on. These all make a terrible first impression. In fact, if you count hit (and we do!) the worst 6 words you can use in a first message are all stupid slang. 3.4k Share

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  • 5/17/2015 ExactlyWhatToSayInAFirstMessageOkTrends

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    OkTrends:DatingResearchfromOkCupidJoinus!

    ExactlyWhatToSayInAFirstMessage

    September14th,2009byChristianRudder

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    Ok,herestheexperiment.Weanalyzedover500,000firstcontactsonourdatingsite,OkCupid.Ourprogramlookedatkeywordsandphrases,howtheyaffectedreplyrates,andwhattrendswerestatisticallysignificant.Theresult:asetofrulesforwhatyoushouldandshouldntsaywhenintroducingyourself.Onlinedatingadviceatitsbest.Letsgo:

    Rule1Beliterate

    Netspeak,badgrammar,andbadspellingarehugeturnoffs.Ournegativecorrelationlistisafoolslexicon:ur,u,wat,wont,andsoon.Theseallmakeaterriblefirstimpression.Infact,ifyoucounthit(andwedo!)theworst6wordsyoucanuseinafirstmessageareallstupidslang.

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    Languagelikethisissuchastrongdealbreakerthatcorrectlywrittenbutotherwiseworkadaywordslikedontandwonthavenicelyaboveaverageresponserates(36%and37%,respectively).

    Interestingexceptionstothenonetspeakruleareexpressionsofamusement.haha(45%replyrate)andlol(41%)bothturnedouttobequitegoodforthesender.Thismakesacertainsense:peoplelikeasenseofhumor,andyouneedtobecasualtoconveygenuinelaughter.hehewasalsoasuccessfulword,butmuchlessso(33%).Scientifically,thisisbecauseitsalittleevilsounding.

    So,inshort,itsokaytolaugh,butkeeptherestofyourmessagegrammaticalandpunctuated.

    Rule2Avoidphysicalcompliments

    Althoughthedatashowsthisadviceholdstrueforbothsexes,itsmostlydirectedatguys,becausetheyarewaymorelikelytotalkaboutlooks.Youmightthinkthatwordslikegorgeous,beautiful,andsexyarenicethingstosaytosomeone,butnoonewantstohearthem.Asweallknow,peoplenormallylikecompliments,butwhentheyreusedaspickuplines,beforeyouveevenmetinperson,theyinevitablyfeelew.Besides,whenyoutellawomanshesbeautiful,chancesareyourenot.

    Ontheotherhand,moregeneralcomplimentsseemtoworkwell:

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    Thewordprettyisaperfectcasestudyforourpoint.Asanadjective,itsaphysicalcompliment,butasanadverb(asin,Imprettygoodatsports.)itsisjustanotherword.

    Whenusedasanadverbitactuallydoesverywell(aphenomenonwellexamineindetailbelow),butasprettysusesbecomemoreclearlyaboutlooks,replyratesdeclinesharply.Youreprettyandyour

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    prettyarephrasesthatcouldgoeitherway(physicalornon).Butveryprettyisalmostalwaysusedtodescribethewaysomethingorsomeonelooks,andyoucanseehowthatworksout.

    Rule3Useanunusualgreeting

    Wetookacloselookatsalutations.Afterall,thewayyouchoosetostartyourinitialmessagetosomeoneisthefirstimpressionofyourfirstimpression.Theresultssurprisedus:

    Thetopthreemostpopularwaystosayhellowereallactuallybadbeginnings.Eventheslangyhollaandyoperformbetter,buckingthegeneralbeliteraterule.Infact,itssmartertousenotraditionalsalutationatall(whichearnsyouthereplyrateof27%)andjustdiveintowhateveryouhavetosaythantostartwithhi.Imnotsurewhythisis:maybetheubiquityofthemostpopularopeningsmeanspeoplearemorelikelytojuststopreadingwhentheyseethem.

    Themoreinformalstandardgreetings:howsitgoing,whatsup,andhowdyalldidverywell.Maybetheysetamorecasualtonethatpeopleprefer,thoughIhavetosay,Youhadmeatwhatsupdoesntquitehavethesameringtoit.

    Rule4Bringupspecificinterests

    Therearemanywordsontheeffectiveendofourlistlikezombie,band,tattoo,literature,studying,vegetarian(yes!),andmetal(doubleyes!)thatareallclearlyreferencingsomethingimportanttothe

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    sender,therecipient,or,ideally,both.Talkingaboutspecificthingsthatinterestyouorthatyoumighthaveincommonwithsomeoneisatimehonoredwaytomakeaconnection,andwehaveproofherethatitworks.Werepresentingjustasmattering:infacteverynichewordthatwehavesignificantdataonhasapositiveeffectonmessaging.

    Evenmoreeffectivearephrasesthatengagethereadersowninterests,orshowyouvereadtheirprofile:

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    Rule5Ifyoureaguy,beselfeffacing

    Awkward,sorry,apologize,kinda,andprobablyallmademalemessagesmoresuccessful,yetnoneofthemexceptsorryaffectsfemalemessages.Aswementionedbefore,pretty,nodoubtbecauseofitsadverbialmeaningoftoafairdegreemoderatelyalsohelpsmalemessages.Alotofrealworlddatingadvicetellsmentobemoreconfident,butapparentlyhemmingandhawingalittleworkswellonline.

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    Itcouldbethatappearingunsuremakesthewriterseemmorevulnerableandlessthreatening.Itcouldbethatwomenlikeguyswhowritemumbly.Buteitherway:menshouldbecarefulnottolettheappearanceofvulnerabilitybecometheappearanceofsweatydesperation:pleaseisonthenegativelist(22%replyrate),andinfactitistheonlywordthatisactuallyworseforyouthanitsnetspeakequivalent(pls,23%)!

    Rule6Considerbecominganatheist

    Mentioningyourreligionhelpsyou,but,paradoxically,ithelpsyoumostifyouhavenoreligion.Weknowthatsgoingtopissalotofpeopleoff,andweremoreorlesstongueincheekwiththisadvice,butitswhatthenumberssay.

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    Thesearethereligioustermsthatappearedastatisticallysignificantnumberoftimes.Atheistactuallyshowedupsurprisinglyoften(342timesper10,000messages,secondonlyto552mentionsofchristianandaheadof278forjewishand142formuslim).

    Thoughveryfewpeopleactuallydoit,invokingtheskybreakingthunderboltsofzeusdoeshelpapersongetnoticed(replyrate56%),butmaybethatshouldntbeasurpriseonasitethatisitselfnamedforamemberoftheClassicalpantheon.Soifyoucantbringyourselftodenythedeity,consideropeningyourselfuptoawholewackybunchofthem.Butideallyyoushouldjustdisbelievethewholething.Itcanhelpyourlovelife,and,besides,iftherereallywasagod,wouldntfirstmessagesalwaysgetareply?

    AwordaboutuserprivacyonOkCupid

    ThoughthisposttalksindetailaboutthecontentofpeoplesmessagesonOkCupid,allmessageshavebeenanonymized,withsenderandrecipientdataandallIPandtimestampinformationstrippedout.Inaddition,ouranalysisprogramlookedatmessagesonlytwoorthreewordsatatime,totrackthesuccessofcertainwordsorphrases(likewhatsupvs.watsup).Theprogramthenaggregatedresultsbyphrasebeforepresentingthedata.NooneatOkCupidreadanyactualusermessagestocompilethispost.

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    Journalists,[email protected].

    523ResponsestoExactlyWhatToSayInAFirstMessage

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    1. September18,2010at9:16amMaeBestsays:

    Iwouldalsobeinterestedinseeingaheightweightscalesummery.Itwasextremelyinterestingtolearnthatbothmenandwomenstretchthetruthabouttheirheightequally.Iwouldbesimilarlyasfascinatedinlearningthestatisticsoffolkswhofabricatetheirowntruthabouttheirweight.Itseemssosillytometolieabouteitherifyouareactuallyplanningtomeetsomeone.Althoughtheexcusesonewouldmakeupaboutwhytheyare2inchesshorter,or50poundsheaviermaysoundfunnierinmyheadthanverbalized.

    2. September18,2010at5:15pmnicksays:

    ThatissobizarreaboutthereligionaspectandIhavenoticedthatthevastmajorityofwomenonlinereallydonotpracticeanyreligion.Iguaranteeyou90%ofthesepeoplealsohaveatleast3tattoosanddonthaveaclearcutideaofwhattheywanttodoforaliving.Iknowthisispassingjudgmentandalittleunfairtosaybut,justseeforyourself.

    Whydomostwomenreallydisguisetheirpersonalitiesanddontexpectmennottothroughoutpettycompliments?WhenyousayIliketohavefunwithmyfriendsthatsaysabsolutelynothingaboutyouNowondertheirissuchanegativestereotypetointernetdatingfromafemaleperspective,theyjustdonttakeitseriouslyorputmuchfaithinit.

    3. September18,2010at5:46pmElliotsays:

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    allofthisseemslikegoinfo,illgiveitatrybecausemylastemailshavenotworkedjackshitformeormyprofile.

    4. September18,2010at11:37pmSaadiasays:

    WOWIgetwhymystupidnetspeakturnsguysoffnow.IwishIreadthisarticleearlier!!!ANDCALMDOWNPEOPLE!Thepointwastokeepreligionoutofcontextuntilyougettoknowthepersonbetter.

    5. September20,2010at6:40pmJesussays:

    IwasntgoingtocommentbutIcouldntworkoutifthiswassarcasm,trollingordeludedranting(Illassumethefirst):

    Atheistslovetofeelpersecuted.Thathighnumbercomesfromidiotssaying,Itssohardtofindattractiveatheistswho*understand*me.Noitsnot.FreakingeverybodyontheInternetisanatheist.Getoveryourselves.

    Itmademewanttoknowthecorrelationbetweenatheismandhavingasenseofhumourbecauseitsurelookslikepracticallythesamethingallthewaytotheoppositeendofthespectrumafterreadingthat.LookatJonStewartandColbertvstheFOXnewscrowd.Yeshesjewishbuthisaudienceislargelyatheistoratleastmadeupofthosethatdonttaketheirreligionsoseriously,includinghimself.

    AnyatheistwouldbejustbethinkingWTF????andthenlaughingtheirheadoff.Athiestsareimmunefromfeelingpersecuted,asatheistsatleast,sincebydefinitionisdoesntdefineanypartoftheiregoandwhereisthisone

    Yesitcancomeacrossasbeinganinsensitiveassholetothoseontheothersidebutbeingabletolaughattheworldingeneralprobablyhelpsquitealotincomingacrossaslessserious,whichseemstocorrelatewithgettingmoreresponses.

    PS:sorryifthisisaduplicatepostbutIgotnoindicationthatthefirstonedidanything.

    6. September25,2010at3:12pmMostafasays:

    itsTerribletomakeGODthelastthingonthelist!Wakeuppeoplepleaaaaaaase!

    7. September28,2010at3:21pmJamessays:

    IdontthinkdenyingGodisgoingtohelpyoufindagirlfriendbud.

    8. September30,2010at2:57amAlexeisays:

    Howsitgoing?Youmention(band,zombie,movies),andIprettymuchthink(band,zombie,movies)areawesome.Especiallywhen(bandplayed,zombieland,moviescene).Sorry,Ineverreallyknowwhattosayatfirstinthese.

    Thismuchis189characterswithoutspaces,226with.Thisiswhatgetsreplies.Apparentlyinsightdoesntmatter(showmewheretheresspaceforit)...itsallaboutthefirstimpressionofbeingonlymildlyinterested.

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    (optional)ifyourebothatheist:Iadmireyouratheism..or..Dothechristiansbugyoutoo?(Authorofthiscommentischristian)

    9. October2,2010at11:55amVivekSPanickersays:

    Itwasreallyhelpful.Iusedtosendwinkbutcouldntseeanyreplies.RecentlyIfoundagirlveryattractiveandsentheramessagebysaying,Youlookawesome.Keepup.Surprisinglysherepliedtothatmessageandsheaddedmetoherfriendslist!

    10. October5,2010at10:13pmRandysays:

    WhatIfindmostinterestingisthatwhenpeoplesaytheyreatheist,theymostofthetimemeantheyreagnostic.Atheismisthedisbeliefinanyorallsupremebeings,deities,gods,whathaveyou,andwhenyouaskanatheistiftheybelievetherecouldbeasupremepower,butnotneccassarilyGodperse,theyoftenagree.ThatsagnosticismandthisissomethingthatIvenoticedalotgrowingup.

    however,Ihavetosay,thesectiononnetspeakisprettyfunnybecauseitstrue,allofthatlingoissuperannoying,andnothingisworsethanwhensomeoneactuallysayslolintherealworldinsteadofactuallylaughing.

    anyway,justmytwocents.

    11. October9,2010at5:18amRDCsays:

    Ifinditreallyinterestingtoapproachthisfromtheviewpointofastudyonmodernsexuality.Asamale,Ifindalloftheserulesthatwevecreatedmostoftentakemeawayfrombeingmyself,whileincreasingmysuccessinmeetingpeopleatthesametime.IfindthatIamconsistentlyrewardedfornotbeingmyself,andinsteadactinglikethepersonthatsocietyandwomenwouldaccept.IamcertainthatIamnotaloneinthis.Suppose,forexample,thatIfoundsomethinggenuinelyveryinterestingaboutafemalesonlinedatingprofile.Iwouldholdbacktheimpulsetocommunicatewithgreatenthusiasm,becauseIknowthatmostwomenwouldbeturnedoffbythis.ShouldIreallydescribemylifephilosophyorwhatreallydrivesmeormakesmehappyinthislife,inmyprofile?Byandlarge,Ihavefoundthatalongprofileisseenasanegativeortoointense.Icouldgoonandon.Thiswholeprocessturnspeopleintorobots.Iwishthatwe,asapeople,couldfinditinourselvestomovebeyondtheseverynarrowlydefinedculturalroles.Forexample,95%ofwomenwillnevermessageaguyonline.Bythesametoken,95%ofwomenwillnevereverapproachamaninpublic,nomatterhowattractiveorinterestingthatmanseemstoher.Ifinditinexplicablethatweasaasasocietywouldcreatesuchstrictrulesforthewaypeopleshouldact.Whatthiscreatesisasocietyofmenwholearnbehyperaggressive,bothintherealworldandvirtually.Yetwomenoftencomplainaboutmanswarlikeagrotendencies.Iblamenoparticularsex,thisissomethingthatweneedtoworkthroughasacultureandasahumanity.Ijustwish,eventhoughitseemsimpossible,thatweasasocietycouldfindawaytoexpectnothing,unlearnwithjoy,andbefree,bothinthewaythatwereceivethosearoundus,andinourownpersonalfreedomofexpression.

    12. October9,2010at5:20amRDKsays:

    Ifinditreallyinterestingtoapproachthisfromtheviewpointofastudyonmodernsexuality.Asamale,Ifindalloftheserulesthatwevecreatedmostoftentakemeawayfrombeing

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    myself,whileincreasingmysuccessinmeetingpeopleatthesametime.IfindthatIamconsistentlyrewardedfornotbeingmyself,andinsteadactinglikethepersonthatsocietyandwomenwouldaccept.IamcertainthatIamnotaloneinthis.Suppose,forexample,thatIfoundsomethinggenuinelyveryinterestingaboutafemalesonlinedatingprofile.Iwouldholdbacktheimpulsetocommunicatewithgreatenthusiasm,becauseIknowthatmostwomenwouldbeturnedoffbythis.ShouldIreallydescribemylifephilosophyorwhatreallydrivesmeormakesmehappyinthislife,inmyprofile?Byandlarge,Ihavefoundthatalongprofileisseenasanegativeortoointense.Icouldgoonandon.Thiswholeprocessturnspeopleintorobots.Iwishthatwe,asapeople,couldfinditinourselvestomovebeyondtheseverynarrowlydefinedculturalroles.Forexample,95%ofwomenwillnevermessageaguyonline.Bythesametoken,95%ofwomenwillnevereverapproachamaninpublic,nomatterhowattractiveorinterestingthatmanseemstoher.Ifinditinexplicablethatweasaasasocietywouldcreatesuchstrictrulesforthewaypeopleshouldact.Whatthiscreatesisasocietyofmenwholearnbehyperaggressive,bothintherealworldandvirtually.Yetwomenoftencomplainaboutmanswarlikeagrotendencies.Iblamenoparticularsex,thisissomethingthatweneedtoworkthroughasacultureandasahumanity.Ijustwish,eventhoughitseemsimpossible,thatweasasocietycouldfindawaytoexpectnothing,unlearnwithjoy,andbefree,bothinthewaythatwereceivethosearoundus,andinourownpersonalfreedomofexpression.

    13. October11,2010at10:50amNicko89says:

    Ivewitnessedthesamescenarioseverydatingsiteivegoneto.

    Match.comEHarmonyPlentyofFishJazzedEvowetc.

    Ithasalltreatedmethesame,anditseemsnoamountofmethodscouldhelpgaineventheslightestresponseofsomeonewhowouldactuallyenjoyatleasthavingaconversationwithme,andmaybewanttodatelater.Igiveoutamessageibarelyreceiveanyresponses,andtheworstofitisthatmanyofthesamewomendontevenlookatmyprofile.Nowimwonderingifimtalkingtosomerobot.idontevenknow.Howmuchofmyselfcanipresenttoawoman,italmostseemsasifeveryonewantssomeone,andyetnoonewantsanyone.

    Onlinedatingisjuststartingtobecomeextremelytedious,butikeeplingeringonthinkingsomeonemightfindmeinteresting.Imdecentlooking,ihavegoals,ihaveafuture,ikeepmyprioritiesstraight.Maybeijustcantwheninapoolofbadapples

    14. October12,2010at2:17pmDwightMorrisonsays:

    Interestingarrayofviews,ImustsaymyexperienceofonlinedatingislikeonlinemarketingtryingtocomeupwiththenextbigideaandattractionasmanysalesaspossibleallthisusingtherightwordsandsayingtherightthingislikegoogleadwordsgrantedIllbetryingsomeifnotallthesemethodsandseeingwhereitgetsmealongasImnotsellingmysoul.

    15. October12,2010at11:07pmSomebodysays:

    SohereistheperfectmessageusingwhatIgleanedfromtheabove:

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    HeySenoritagirly,

    VerysorrytointerruptyoubutIwanttotellyouhowniceyouareandImightaddprettyawesomehaha.IfZeuswasstillstalkingabouthewouldsnagyouinhiswifesackinaflashoflighteninghaha.Althoughyoudidntmentionitinyourprofile,Icanimagineyouplayingleadguitarinametalzombiebandwellsorrythatcertainlycameoutinanawkwardway.Sorry,maybeIjustsaidthatasIhavebeenbrowsingtheliteratureaboutzombies,tattoosandpiercings.DoyouknowthattheyalloriginatedinTransylvaniawithVladIIItheImpaler?Younodoubtknowofthetorturesheinflicted.Ifhisvictimssurvivedtheywereturnedintowellpiercedzombies.Tattooswereameansofmarkinghissubjectsaspunishments,marksofrank,andasameansofsendingorderstohiscohorts.Thatsprettyawesomeisntithaha?BythewayIamanAtheistsorry.

    16. October13,2010at1:37pmMikesays:

    Interestingarticle,andespeciallytheresponsethereligionanalysishasreceived.

    Imsuretheactualprocessofgettingthatreplyalsoincludescheckingthesendersprofile,thatis,notonlythemessagesent.Youguyshavedonesuchagreatjobteasingoutfascinatinginformationfromthedatabaseshere,iwonderifyoucouldmanageananalysisofthatdynamic.

    Bytheway,Idolistmyselfasanatheistandhavereadmanyprofilesofpeoplefittingthatplusothercriteria,particularlyeducation,andcanseeanumberofcorrelations,suchasanaffinityforNPR.Makeofthatwhatyouwill.

    17. October20,2010at1:43pmamolibrisays:

    Verygoodpoints.Usefulinformationtoo.Ivecaughtsomespammymessages,whereitsprettyobviousthatpeoplearebroadcastingortrollingbysendingthesamemessagetomanyrecipients.Iveneverhadanyoneadmititbuttherearenofurthermessagesfromthemeither!~)ThereareSOmanyerrorsingrammarandspellingthatitsreallysad.Peoplewhosaytheyarecollegegraduates,dontknowthedifferencebetweenthenandthan,yourandyoure,their,thier,there,theyre,etc.Runaspellcheckatleast,forpetessake.Alsoanyonewhomentionsheadgamesordramaqueens.OUTOUTOUT.

    18. October28,2010at2:17pmJeffsays:

    DearBelieverandparticularlyEvangelicalXians,

    Iamanatheist.Assuch,Idontdenytheexistenceofagod.AsanatheistIlackabeliefinagod.Thetotalabsenceofsomething,suchasabelief,isnotsomethinginandofitself.ThatIdonthavethisbeliefandyoudodoesnotrequireofmeadenialjustbecauseyouwishtodenywelivewithinasecularsociety.

    Beanatheistifyouwanttodatemeandbetrusted.

    19. November2,2010at8:48pmCorisays:

    IwouldthinkthatsayingwhatsuporhowsitgoingismoresuccessfulbecausetheyarequestionsandgiveyousomethingtosayinaresponseIrealizeitsamessage,butaquestion

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    actuallyINVITESaresponse.Theguycouldbesendingmessagestoseveralgirlseachday,ifyoudontrespond,someonewill.Itslikeanicebreaker.Easyquestionfirst,gofromthere.

    20. January8,2011at11:33pmNeedaYentasays:

    Iveusedonlinedatingsitesonandofffor6years,andithasbeeninterestingtosaytheleast.Totheguysouttheregettingfrustratedbyalackofresponse,understandthatmenoutnumberwomen9to1onmostsites.Soforevery1emailyousend,Ireceive9.Itsnowonderyoudonthearbackfromeveryone.Ihadsomanyresponses,Ilinedup35datesadayuntilIfoundwhatIwaslookingfor.Idoubtthatmostwomenhavethatkindoftime,sojustunderstanditsamatterofsupplyanddemand.Donttakeitpersonal.Also,tryusingalineintheemailthatyouwoulduseinperson.Younoticesomethingabouther,andcommentonit.Thatmeansyouhavetoreadherentireprofile,andthencommentonwhatyoufoundinterestingorcurious.YourtriptoGreecesoundsawesome!Idlovetohearmoreaboutit.Donotaskaclosedendedquestion.Askanopenendedquestionthatrequiresmorethanaonewordanswer.ThatisSales101andwereallsellingheresellingtheideathatafuturewithuswouldbeawesome!MylastpointtoallthemenoutthereRememberthisonethingfortherestofyourlivesSmartwomenwanttohearthattheyarebeautiful(attractive,cute,etc.)Beautifulwomenwanttohearthattheyaresmart.Givethemwhattheywantandyoullbeinfasterthanatatooedathiestjoinsametalband.Goodluck.

    21. January10,2011at1:44amMicahsays:

    ThisisoneofthemostinterestingblogsIveeverread.InreadingthecommentsitseemsasifImreadingmyownthoughts.Ivehadallthesethoughtsexceptforthebitbythejudgmentalprude.Thatpersonisjustclosedmindedandlockedinabubble.Anyway,thebitaboutonlinedatingmarketing.Ithinkthisguyisontosomething.Iveactuallythoughtaboutthisoften.IvedatedsomegirlsthatIvemetfromdatingwebsites.Ivecreatedprofilesthatwerefollowingthepopulartrend,statusquo,astonotrocktheboat,followallthepickupartistrulesofsocialengagementandIdefinitelygetmoreresponsesultimatelyleadingtomoredates.Ivealsocreatedanexperimentalprofilethatmostresemblesmytruepersonality.Unfortunately,thefakeprofilewonbyalandslide.Itssadthatmytruepersonalitywasconsideredtheexperimental.Thereareafewinterestingpointshere.Tojustifyusingastatusquoprofileistoincreasethechancesofactuallymeetingyourpotentialmate.Footinthedoor.Onlinedatinghasbecomeanotherlayerofmeetingyoursoulmate.Technologyismakingtheworldasmallerplacebutatthesametimeseparatingourselvesfromactualinterpersonalinteraction.Textingisagreatexampleanditcangobothways.SomemaybebetteratcommunicationthroughtextbutIwouldthinkthemajorityofcoupleshavemetthroughactualconversationinperson.Hereistheneworderofmeetingsomeoneyoumayhititoffwith:1.Wink,2.Message,3.Facebook,4.Texting,5.Telephone(thisisthefirsttimeyouactuallyhearyourpotentialdatesvoiceandthiscangoonforseveralweeks),Finally,youmeetforadate.Newrulesofengagmentarehere.Trygoingoutoforderandyoumayfindthatthefemaleisturnedoff.Theperfectmessagewasveryfunny,sorryforsayingso.Iactuallyhaveapiercedzombietatoo.MaybethatswhyIvehad452datesinthelasttwoyears.

    22. January13,2011at12:23amTheFlyingSpaghettiMonstersays:

    Iwonderifatheistsgetmorerepliesbecausetheresmoreofthemonthissite,duetothefactthatitshardtofindnonatheistswhoarewillingtodateone(atleastfrommyexperience,whichmostlyinvolvespeopletellingmeImgoingtohell).

    23. January13,2011at10:22am

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    Johnsays:

    ImsuretheAtheistConnectionisjustthatevenamongyoungpeople,itsstillachristiansociety,andfindinganotherAtheistthoughnotdifficult,especiallywiththematchsystemgivesyouasenseofconnection.Maybenotaplacetostart,butthatsoneimportantsetofvaluesthatIknowwethenhaveincommon!

    24. January14,2011at6:14ampoopoosays:

    Iknowwhyapologizeandkindaandpardontheexpressionimprovethechancesofguys.

    Itsbecauseonyoursite98percentoftherespondentsareAmericans1.9percentareCanadiansand.1percentareBritons.

    WhenanAmericanwritessomething,andhewantstosay,greatdame,acceptmyapologyforinteracting,andpleasenotehowIdidnotwriteplease,bythetimeitistyped,itmophrsonthescreenasadpfoigunae98gaw3eyw0uyawerugyaewiuerthentheAmericanclicksonSAND.

    IblametheAmericanPublicSchoolsystem,andofcoursetheRepublicans.

    Soyourdatawascollectedfromcanadianstocanadians.Thisiswhytheapologeticwordsweresosuccessful:we,incanada,usecouldIbotheryoutosorry,Iapologize,IdidnotmeantointerruptyourapologytothegameswardenmuchlikeyouAmysusegoddamnedmofoshitforbrainsormybitch,yourbitch,whosebitchandfucking,whichAmyphrasesaretypedasadsfogaeaegxclknuhy8tujlepy.sdopfighsi,diuhyftrgyer7ygandgolly.Ofcoursenobodyusesspellcheckcoziftheydid,theuserswouldnotrecognizethesuggestions.BillGatesneedstoinventauniversaliconthatsimplysignifies,fuckyouassholeandthenthesuggestiondepartmentwouldbeorganizedandquiteagain.

    25. January14,2011at6:18amgegesays:

    theworst6wordsyoucanuseinafirstmessageareallstupidslang

    Famouslastwords.Intwentyyearstheywillbethemostintelligentwords.

    Imean,lookatchristianity.Theystartedoutasabunchoflionfeed,andtheywentontogreatfortuneandfame,theirstrongholdonEuropeancivilizationonlyweakenedinthelast5060years.After2000gloriousandmostlycelibateyearsthattheirzenithlasted.

    26. January17,2011at3:35amRosesays:

    Forme,itsnotsomuchthatphysicalcomplimentsareabadthing,itsthatwhentheyaretherethereareusuallynoothercompliments.IdontmindwhensomeonetellsmeImprettywhens/healsosaysthatitsfascinatingthatImacomposerorthatImsmart.ButwithalltheinfothatIhaveaboutmyselfonmyprofile,ifallyouhavetosayisthatImprettyorIhaveanicesmile,andnothingaboutanythingelse,themessagethatsendsisthatmyvalueisinmylooksandallmytalentsandaccomplishmentsareunimportant.Seehowthatisntallthatflattering?Idontwanttodatesomeonewhotreatsmeasanobject,whoshouldbeseenandnotheard.

    ThatswhatIthinkthisadvicetiesinto.Complimenthim/heronpersonalityratherthanlooks,mentionspecificinterestsallthatsuggeststhatyouvereadhis/herprofileandfinditintriguing.Notjustlookedathis/herphotosanddecidedthatthatisenough.Afterall,ifthe

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    photosareallyouneed,thenitkindofistruethatyouonlyvaluethepersonforhis/herlooks,right?

    27. January17,2011at4:31amRosesays:

    Also,dudeabovemeishilarious.Howmanyofthose452datesactuallyledtorelationships,orevenjustseconddates?ConsideringyourprofileisONEBIGLIE!

    Andamagicformula?WomenarenotTheBorg.Weallhavedifferentthingswelike.Personally,Ifindwinkshighlycheesyandcantstandthem.Ialsodontliketextingwhensomeonecouldeasilycallme.

    28. January17,2011at11:43pmHydraJensays:

    Theresnothingmetalaboutbeingavegetarian.Justsayin

    29. January18,2011at5:00pmbrendasays:

    awkwerdisbetterilikesayingthat

    30. January28,2011at5:43pmravenfairydustsays:

    Considerbecominganatheistisaratherironicadvicecomingfromadatingsite,aplacewherepeopledemonstrativelyhavetroubleestablishingandmaintaininggoodrelationshipshencetheirpresence(andsubsequentfailure)here.Youknow,anotherinterpretationcouldbethatsomeonewhoISabletoestablisharelationshipwithanyoneincludingGodisthereforeunrelatabletothetypicaldatingsiteuser.

    justsaying.

    31. January28,2011at6:14pmBobbysays:

    JuststartedouttryingthisonlinedatingsceneandIcantellyouitsalotharderthanitsounds,Imaguyandmusthavesentoutdozensanddozensofmessagesdoalldifferentandinterestingwomen.IdoNOTsendoutthetypicalmessagesthatmostdobycomingupwithoneor2paragraphsandmassemailingthemouttohundredsofwomen,Iactuallytakethetimetoreadtheirprofileandwritebacksomethingintorelationtowhattheirinterestsorfavoritemoviemightbe,ithasgottenmenowhere!!!!

    32. January30,2011at6:18pmRichsays:

    Ithinkitsreallyasadcommentaryonsociety,thatreligionseemstobeaturnoff.ImadethemistakeofmarryingsomeonewhowasnottrulyaChristianandithelpedtocontributetoanunhappyrelationshipbeforeshedivorcedme(shegotwhatshewantedkidsandhadnouseformeafterwards).MyfaithandbeliefsareextremelyimportanttomeandifIhavetowaitalongtimebeforeIfindsomeonewhosharesthosebeliefs,sobeit.

    33. February1,2011at2:37amTimLsays:

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    Obviouslyatheistsaremorelikelytoshowuponthisonlinedatingsite.Ifindthatthetermisusefulasaproxyforcertaincharacteristics(especiallyforgirls,thoughobviouslyIdonthaveasmuchexperiencewithguysprofiles)multiplepiercings,shortpinkhair,fondnessforcertainuniquemusicgenres.Assuch,becauseIdontmatchwiththatpersonalitytype,IhavecheckedallbutatheistonreligionwhenIbrowse.Ithasnothingtodowithmyideology.Ijustliketoscreenoutcertaintypesofpeople.

    Comparethissitetoaverage,secular,bigcitysociety.Ihavemanyfriendswhoarenonreligiousoronlynominallyreligious.Amongmyreligiousfriends,relativelyfewarevisiblyorvocallyreligious.Yetatthesametime,Ihaveonlyseveralfriends/acquaintanceswhowouldopenlydescribethemselvesasatheistsandvery/somewhatseriousaboutit.Ishouldaddthatthehandfulofvocalatheistsareallguys!

    ImustemphasizeagainthatIhavenothingagainstatheism.Iamquiteskepticalmyselfonmattersofreligion.Butthatparticularfindingintheoutlineaboveisnotatallsurprising,andalsorepresentsoneofthemostsignificantdifferencesbetweentheOKCupidcommunityandthemainstream,20somethingurbancommunity.

    34. February2,2011at5:06pmkenzie0913says:

    IhavetosayIfoundthisveryinterestingtoread.IfoundmyselfthinkingaboutthemessagesIsendaswellastheonceIreceive.Ifeellikemostofitisprettyaccurate.IknowpersonallyIliketofeellikethepersonmessagingmeactuallyhasreadthroughmyprofileoratleastseemsreallyfriendlythenIwillrespond.Ofcoursethisstudydidnottakeotherfactorsintoconsiderationlikelooks.Iknowthatitishumannaturethatpeoplewilltakethatintoconsideration.Ifsomeoneisbetterlookingtheyareprobablymorelikelytorespondtoamessagethatisntasfriendlyorpersonal.Thatisjustaguess,butsomethingtopointout.WhenIwasscrollingthroughIsawtheydiddoastudywithlooks.IguessIllhavetocheckitout!

    35. February2,2011at7:47pmCCsays:

    IWILLNEVERDENYGOD!!EVER!

    36. February2,2011at8:34pmCupidstrikesUsays:

    Ibelievethedifficultyrestsupontheunnaturalmediumofawrittenmessageasitappliestotheambienceofdatingandfirstimpressions.Incommunicating,apersoncomprehendsmoreinwhattheyseenonverballythanwhattheyhearverbally.Inthislight,apersoncaneasilyjestusingalooktoinformtheircounterpartthattheyarenotbeingserious.Thisisthecourtship,sotospeak,offlirtingwithlightorhardsarcasmthatpromoteswitandcharm,interest,andotheraspectsthatallrelyheavilyuponeyecontactandnonverbalclues.

    Mostofushavegrownuptoanatural,facetofaceapproachthatsimplycannotbeexpressedequallyinawrittenmessage.Howcanapersonbefunnyorcharismaticwhentheycantrollwordsofftheirtongue,rolltheireyes,giveacertainlookorafacialexpressionofahalfcrookedsmile?Inmostcases,itcannotbedone,andindoingso,peoplelosetheirmosteffectivewaytocommunicate.Thisresultsindifficultywithwhattosayinwrittenformbecauseitmustnotonlysoundlikeapersonissayingit,butitalsomustbesaidnonverbally,thusbecomingsomewhatunnatural.

    Ineffect,ExactlyWhatToSayInAFirstMessageisacontradictionbecauseyoucannotsaysomethingthatiswritten.Tobeeffectiveinyourfirstmessage,justimaginethatyou

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    aretalkingtoablindperson,andyoucantalkonlylikearobot.Allyourwordswillcomeoutthesamemanner,tone,andstyle.Yourmessagecannotbeoverbloatedwithunnecessarywords.Theyshouldbeshort,simple,andconcise.Thespecificityshouldrelatetoacommoninterest,andnotcomplicatedwhichmeansonlyaskoneortwoquestion.Donotbecomeaninterrogator.

    Thesituationwillbecomemoredifficultifyousucceedinthisfirstattempt,becausenowthenextstepisExactlyWhatToSayWhenSomeoneResponsesToYourFirstMessage.Inanotherwords,itwillbemuchmoredifficulttokeeptheflowgoing.Isuggestchangingthemediumassoonaspossibletothefacetofacemeetingwhereyouwillbeabletoutilizeyourbestability,thenonverbalcues.PhonesandIMsarefine,butwrittenmessageswillultimatelybecomedull.However,allthatisjustmyopinion.

    37. February5,2011at3:15amMarksays:

    Imnotclaimingtobeanexpertatthisbyanymeans.ImfairlycertainthatIminthetop20%ofmaleusersonherelookswise.Igetamessageeveryotherdayorso,mostlyfromwomenthatIamnotphysicallyattractedto.SowhenIdofindagirlthatIfindattractive,Istillhavetomessageherfirst.Shemayhaveviewedmyprofile,butImstilltakingtheinitiation.

    Iwouldalsosaymysuccessrateonmessagesreturnedishigherthantheaverageaswell.Iprobablygetback3540%ofthemessagesIsendout,duetofactorslikelastloginin,thewomenImessageget9messagesaday,ect.

    WhileIdonthaveacutanddrycopy/pastemessageIsendout(Imetawomanfromhere,andoverdrinks,shetoldmeherandherroommatearealwaysgettingthesameexactmessagesfrommen)Idotendtostickwiththesamebasicformula.

    Hey,Howsitgoing?

    Inoticed(yourinschool/likeeminem,hatepuppies)andImnowwondering(whenyougraduate,ifyoulikejayztoo,howmanypuppiesyouvemurdered).AndthentrytomakesomesortcommentthatshowsIhaveajokingsidetoo.

    Im63,andthegirlItookoutfordrinksis411.

    SomyfirstmessagetoherwasYoure411,howtallistootall?anditgeneratedaresponsewhileusuallysheisgettingahey,whatsup?orsomethingoverlycomplimentaryoroverlysexual.

    38. February5,2011at6:12amAussenansichtsays:

    (Firstsorryforbadusageoftheenglishlanguage,needmorepractice )

    @Randy(Oct5th,2010)Iknow,thatsaoldpost.

    Buthey,itstheonlyonemakessense

    Therestofyouitisinterestinghowthisarticleisbeingmisunderstood.Andwhatshowsthesimplicityofthecommoncrowditisremarkablewhatthereactionsonthereligionspartofthearticleare.

    Someofyouarereally,reallyblindedbythesunYouseethewordsgodandnoreligion

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    andimmediatelyyougetyourgunsandarereadytofight.Heynooneonthisarticlesaidsomethingbadaboutyourreligion.Andmaybethatstypicalamerican:notolerancetothenonbeliverthisremindsmeofthepeopleyourefightingagainstinyourwaronterror

    Haveaniceday.

    39. February5,2011at11:21pmcjsays:

    IwilltakeastandforGodinallHisGloryforever..

    40. February8,2011at2:35pmDorje013says:

    @RDC,RDK,Micah:Yup,studysocialdynamics.Youandmebabyarenothingbutmammalsandasfarasmostpeoplego,theyhavenocontroloverwhetherornottheyareattractedtoyou.Ifyouwantachance,youmustcreateattraction,itisthemalesrole.Youshouldalsoconsiderwhyawomanmaynotbeattractedtowhoyoureallyareitisbecauseyouaredemonstratinglowersurvivalorsocialvaluewithyourbehavior.Ifyoucanunderstandit,youcanchangeit.Imnotsayingtopretendtobesomeoneyouarenot,butyourissuesarebeingbroughttolightandyounowhaveanopportunitytodecideifthisistrulyyouormaybeyoudliketochange?

    Anyway,thisarticleisSOINCOMPLETEbecausethe#1factorinwhetheryouwillgetareplytoyourmessageisyourphotos.

    41. February8,2011at3:06pmCGGsays:

    WhatnoHowdy?

    42. March15,2011at11:34pmhahaha!!says:

    ToMarkabove.

    IhavetoagreewiththemethodIhavebeenonOKCforaboutamonthnow.Thishaslandedmeaboutacoupleofdatesaweek.Igettobeveryselective,andIhaveastrictprotocolIfollow.Itypicallygetatleastamessageaday.Iwouldconsidermylookstobeaboveaverage,yetIalsocarrymyselfwelloutinpublic.Ifinditallofthistobeverysatisfyingandenjoyable.Ihaveatendencytohavefilledupmyinboxinthisshortamountoftime.

    Butwhatisstrikingthemostaretheamountofhypocritesthatareoutthere.Yesladies,you..Whydoyouwinkatmewhenyouexplicitlystatethatyoudontlikeitandfinditcreepy.Whydoyouthinkitisokforyoutodoit??Alsodontsavesoyoucanwatchmecomeon,orwhenIsayhello,yousayyoujustsavedmetolookatmyprofilelaterpffft!!!right..hahahaha!!

    Tooallthosepoorguysouttherethatarehavingsuchahardtime,gobackandreevaluateyourself.Gofindanalphaandpickupsomeideasthatwork.Iamnottalkingaboutpuffingoutyourchestandbeingjustphysicallystronger,butstartwithyourselfesteem.Thatcarrysalotofweight.LikemybuddysaysFaketillyoumakeit.

    Anotherthing,IwishOkChadaanonymousbuttonwhereafteryouhadadate,youcanclickanoptionofifyouscored(gotlaid,.whateveryouwanttocallit)ornot.IwouldLOVEtoseethestatiscaldataonthis.Iwouldhavedingthatbuttonquiteafewtimesallready.

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    Ohyeah,,Ifeelreally,really,really,andImeanreallybadforyoushortguysoutthere,Ihavenever,seensuchdirectdiscriminationeverinmylifeIguessithelpswithmebeing64andconfident..remember,confidence!!,dontconfuseitforcockiness!

    AllIhavetosayisTHANKYOUOkC!!!!

    43. March16,2011at8:01amsoultrsays:

    Ithinkyouneedtoalsolookatthecountriesthelettersarewrittentoorfrom.IfyouwritetoachristiancountryandtelltheladyyounotbelieveinGod,youwillgetfewresponces.

    44. March17,2011at2:40amJustinsays:

    WhyisiteverytimethattheOKCstaffpostsascientific(althoughhumorouslydisseminated)studyofsomesort,thesecommentsturnintoawhinefestaboutpeoplefeelingjadedaboutreligion,looks,thefactthatotherpeoplewontmessagethem,orwhateverelsetheyfeeltheneedtocomplainabout?

    Thisarticlewasveryinformativeandtakeitforwhatitisananalysisofdatawhichmayormaynothelpyouinachievingmoreresponsestoyourmessages.

    45. March21,2011at11:45pmGilinX9says:

    Ithinkatheistzombiesarecoolandawesome,especiallywhentheydebateaboutmetaphysics.=]

    46. March24,2011at9:32amEdsays:

    Imsorrybutthisisallbullshit.

    IvebeenanatheistsincemyteensandIdideverythinginthisbloginnatelyevenbeforereadingit.Imnotapersonthatgivescomplimentsforthesakeofgivingcompliments.AmIgettingwomentryingtomakeoutwithmeleftandright?No.Hell,Idkillforawomantotalkto!!

    Faceit,Womenjustdonttakedatingwebsitesthatseriously,especiallyfreeones.Theydontuseitasameanstogetdates,theyuseitasameanstogetattention.Thatsthetruth.Theyjustdontgiveashit.

    47. April9,2011at6:57amshellysays:

    CoolinsightsIthinkmostaretrueonasubliminallevel.Thereshouldbeastudyoncodewordsthatwomenuselikecurvy,voluptuous,BBW,thick,orfullfiguredCanweallbehonestandlookagainattheveryadequate,universalword,FAT!Puhleeez.Overweightisoverweightpeople.Putdownthefoodandandyawonthavetocomeupwithsillycodewordsthattrytocoverupthefactthatfatisnotspelledfit.

    48. April14,2011at12:00pmLSsays:

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    MaybeImintheminorityherebut,mostofthestuffaboutwhatwomenrespondtodoesntapplytomeatall.Idonthaveanyproblemwithbeingcomplimentedonmylooks.InfactIlikeit.Ialsolookforenthusiasm,sincerity,intelligenceanduniquenessinthemessage.Bottomlinethough,ifImnotattractedphysicallythenImnotgoingtorespond,althoughImightappreciatesomeoneseffort,andevenletthemknowthat.

    49. April18,2011at9:02amAndrewsays:

    Theheightdifferencemightbeduetointelligenceandincomedifference.Sociallyawkwardinternetusersaremorelikelytobemoreintelligentthanaverageandtocomefromamorepriviledgedbackgroundthantheaverageperson.Specifically,itisextremelyunlikelythatpeoplewithIQbelow80wouldbeactiveinternetusers.

    50. April18,2011at12:49pmJoesays:

    Ihavebeenalreadyusingalltheinfothatwassaidonhere.WelleverythingexceptforbeinganatheistbecauseImnot.Imagnostic.ButIstilldontgetanyreplies.IamnicewhenImessagesomeone.Itryandgivethemalittlebackgroundinfoonmyself.IdontcommentontheirlooksmostlybecauseIthinkitssortofsleazy.ImeanIammessagingyou.ThatrightthereshouldtellyouthatIthinkyouareattractive.ItrynottosaytomuchandItrynottosaytolittle.IalsodontsayanythingthatistopersonalandIdontjustputHelloorHayinthesubline.ItsnormallysomethingquickthathastodowithathingIlikedabouttheirprofile.IevenendwithsomethingnicelikeIcantwaittohearfromyou..

    ButthenIcomebackthenextdaytoseetheyhavebeenloggedonatsomepointinthatdaysotheydidgetthemessageandthinkoktheyarebusy.ButafewdaysgobyandIdontevengetareply.Nowthatiswhatpissesmeoff!Atleastacknowledgemyfuckingexistence!Tellmeyouhavealreadymeetsomeoneoryoudontthinkwewouldgowelltogether.OrevenIthinkyouruglywouldbebetterthannothingatall!

    IreplytoeverymessagethatcomesmywayevenifIdontlikethegirljustsosheknowsIatleastgothermessage.Iwouldexpectthewomentodothesame.

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