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-Surveying 101 –

Why Do Surveys Cost so Much? (and Take so Long?)

International Right of Way Association

55th International Education Conference

Indianapolis, Indiana

June 30, 2009

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The U.S. Public Land Survey System

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The U.S. Public Land Survey System

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The U.S. Public Land Survey System

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The U.S. Public Land Survey System

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Public Land Survey Issues

• Original monuments were oftenwood posts, mounds, charcoal, stones, etc.

• More often than not, these corners were not very well perpetuated over time.

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Section Corners

Out of the +/-100,000 original corners in Indiana, how many are existent (i.e. properly perpetuated and referenced)?

15-20%?How many of those have state plane coordinates associated with their locations?

30% (5% of the total)?

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Survey Control

There is NO inherent relationship between the land fabric and “GPS.”

Survey-grade accuracies cannot be achieved with the typical Wal-Mart purchased GPS. (Survey-grade accuracies require >$20,000 investment in equipment)

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Section Corners

Average cost to perpetuate a lost or obliterated corner in Indiana:

$1000-2000 per corner

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What impact does this lack of documented

corners have?

• Uncertain reference monuments

• Conflicting reference monuments

• Indeterminate reference monuments

= Higher Cost Surveys that take more time

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“Sufficiency”

A legal description is considered sufficient if a competent surveyor can locate it on the ground.

Why might a description be insufficient?

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Problems with Record Documents

• Descriptions that do not close• Ambiguous or missing words• Multiple possible interpretations• Plats and deeds with errors• Descriptions that follow ill-defined or

undefined rights of way• Deed gaps and overlaps with

adjoiners

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Examples

• Description miscloses by over 900 feet

• “…Beginning at a stone near the corner of Kent’s barn (now gone)…”

• Bounds descriptions that call for each other

• “thence in the shape of a half-moon…”

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Examples

• Description miscloses by over 900 feet

• “…Beginning at a stone near the corner of Kent’s barn (now gone)…”

• Bounds descriptions that call for each other

• “thence in the shape of a half-moon…”

• “…Also, being described by survey, as follows:…”

• An easement, 10 feet in width, adjoining and lying west of the right of way line…”

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NE Cor. SE ¼(Co. referenced monument fd.)

SE Cor. N ½ SE ¼

by split

SE Cor. SE ¼(Co. referenced monument fd.)

350’ D&M

Pipe fd.

iron pin fd. in C.L. Rd.at (1309’ S. of cor.)

5’

2’

Old fence

½ ¼ line

¼ line

Centerlineof Co.Rd.

Beginning at an iron pin in the centerline of Road #300 W that is 1309 feet south of the NE corner of the SE 1/4 of Section 10-23-5; thence west on the fence line of the south half of said Section 10-23-5 a distance of 350 feet to an iron pipe; thence north and parallel to the east line of said Section 10-23-5 a distance of 173 feet to an iron pipe; thence east and parallel to the 1/4 Section line of Section 10 a distance of 350 feet to an iron pin in the center of Road #300 W and the east section line of 10-23-5; thence south on centerline of said road 300 W a distance of 173 feet to the place of beginning, containing 1.38 + or - acres

173’d172.57’m

2’Pipe fd

.

350’ D&M

Old fence

½ ¼ line

2’

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The Schneider Corporation

The Schneider CorporationHistoric Fort Harrison8901 Otis AvenueIndianapolis, IN 46216Phone - 317.826.7100Fax - [email protected]

Gary R. Kent

Director, Integrated Services

phone 317/826-7134

fax 317/826-7110

[email protected]


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