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Project: IEEE P802.19 Coexistence TAG
Submission Title: May 2003 working sessionDate Submitted: 14 May, 2003Source: Jim Lansford, Company Mobilian CorporationAddress 7431 NW Evergreen Pkwy, Hillsboro, OR 97124Voice:+1 405 377 6170, FAX: +1 425 671 6099, E-Mail: [email protected]
Re:
Abstract: Working document for Dallas plenary
Purpose: For discussion
Notice: This document has been prepared to assist the IEEE P802.19. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein.
Release: The contributor acknowledges and accepts that this contribution becomes the property of IEEE and may be made publicly available by P802.19.
May 2003
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802.19 Meeting: May 2003
Jim Lansford, Chair
802.19 Coexistence TAG
+1 405 377 6170
May 2003
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Opening remarks• Registration
– Please sign in on the paper sign-in sheet– Electronic registration MAY be working
• Paper is our backup
• Server has all prior documents– ieee802/802-18-19/coexistence– Today’s docs are (temporarily) on
802-18-19/submissions/802-19/May03– March, January, November are also there
• Email reflector majordomo– subscribe stds-802-19 <your_address>– Currently at 92 subscribers
• Web site– www.ieee802.org/19– Continually being upgraded…thx to Ian Gifford
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Background• Study group organized in July 2001• TAG created in July 2002• Does not impact existing Coexistence TGs
– 802.15.2 continues– 802.16 continues
• Complementary with 802.18– The Regulatory TAG is an outwardly focused activity targeted at
influencing decisions of the worldwide regulatory agencies relative to IEEE 802 desired directions
– The Coexistence TAG is an inwardly focused activity targeted at coordinating coexistence issues within and between the various wireless WGs in IEEE 802• External messaging of coexistence policies• TIA liaison for cordless phones• Possible EMC liaison
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Proposed agenda for meeting
Item Presenters Duration Start Time
1 * Call to order & Opening Remarks - Chair 5 01:00 PM2 MI Review and approval of agenda - Chair 5 01:05 PM
3 MIReview and approval of minutes from Dallas/March
- Chair 5 01:10 PM
4 DTSummary of activities since March interim and call for Vice-Chair nominations
- Chair 20 01:15 PM
5 DT Review of comments on Letter Ballot - Chair 20 01:35 PM6 DT Review of Coexistence Guideline - Chair 70 01:50 PM7 II Break - 30 03:00 PM8 DT Discussion of 802.15.3a proposals - Chair 70 03:30 PM9 DT TIA Liaison update - Steve Whitesell 15 04:40 PM
10 DT 802.11n Coexistence Criteria - Adrian Stephens 15 04:55 PM11 DT Next steps for 802.19 - Chair 15 05:10 PM11 II Closing Remarks - Chair 5 05:25 PM11 MI Adjourn - Chair 0 05:30 PM
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Status/Summary• Web site and reflector up• Approx 10 attendees at interim meeting in Dallas
– Minutes are in 03/010
• Charter and Operating Rules voted on by letter ballot between sessions– Documents PASSED 8/2/0 (procedural, not technical)– Will try to clean up no votes and recirculate, even though not required
• Guideline document drafted by Mat Sherman– Liaisons had two conference calls and generated two revisions– Current document is 03/007r3
• Engaged with 802.15.3a process – presentation at March meeting• Engaged with 802.11n (HTSG) process – presentation at March
meeting
Still need a Vice-Chair!!Still need a Vice-Chair!!
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Plans for Dallas• Review letter ballot• Vice chair• Presentation in 802.11n
– Review coexistence criteria from prior 802.19 • Continue work on Coexistence Guideline
document (Mat Sherman’s) 03/007• Preparation for presentation in 802.15.3a
– Begin reviewing first 24 proposals• Discussion of further upcoming work
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Charter and operating rules
• Documents:– 03/001r2: Charter– 03/002r2: Operating rules
• Approved 8/2/0– Goes to SEC in July
• Two no voters had good comments, so will incorporate and recirculate– Will edit now…
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Coexistence Guide Document
• Document 03/007
• Detailed listing of policies and procedures for 802.19
• Planned completion by July
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Role of 802.19 in 802.15.3a selection• Proposals in March, revisions this week• After the session, 802.19 will hold an ad-hoc meeting
with the 802.15.3a proposal manager, Ian Gifford• Mandatory coexistence sections will be lifted from each
proposal for circulation within 802.19– We will begin work today
• Summary will be presented at joint session in San Francisco
• 802.19 will take up review and comment on this combined document in July
• Position paper will be up for approval in September or November
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Role of 802.19 in 802.11n (HTSG)
• Review PAR/5 Criteria
• Process continues as in 15.3a
• Current versions do not constrain frequency band or discuss coexistence mechanisms
• Once TG is created, 802.19 will engage more fully
May 2003
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Review of 802.15.3a proposals
• Team 1:– Intel – Time Domain– Discrete Time– General Atomics– Wisair– Philips– FOCUS Enhancements– Samsung
• Team 2– Extreme Spectrum– Motorola
• TI• Others
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Future tasks of 802.19• Final approval of charter and operating rules
by SEC• Continue 802.15.3a engagement
– Continued review of proposals as amended– Publish
• Continued involvement with PAR/5 Criteria development within 802.11n (HTSG)
• Other possible:– Appendix for 802.15.2 for 802.11g– TIA cordless phone coexistence– Spectrum etiquette with 802.18
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Summary
• Thanks for your attendance
• Feedback always appreciated
• Make sure you sign the paper log
May 2003
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Backup
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Proposed Charter (1)
IEEE 802 Coexistence Technical Advisory Group (TAG) is responsible to recommend and maintain the IEEE 802 policy regarding coexistence among implementations of IEEE 802 and other standards.
To offer, when required, assessments to the SEC regarding the degree to which standards developers have conformed to coexistence criteria.
To develop coexistence documentation of interest to the technical community outside 802.
To assist, when requested by a Working Group running a ballot, with evaluation of proposals during the downselection process.
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Proposed Charter (2)• To assist, when requested by a Working Group running a ballot, with
the resolution of comments related to coexistence.
• To issue reports and recommendations to the SEC representing a balanced viewpoint regarding impending SEC actions in which coexistence may be a concern. – Approved per COEX-TAG, relevant Working Group, and LMSC rules.
(see LMSC Rules, Procedures 3 and 4.) • To develop and maintain IEEE Standards (either Recommended
Practices or Guides) to foster coexistence within the communications industry, provided that such work is done under an approved PAR.
• The Coexistence TAG may recommend additional activities consistent with its Purpose Statement, subject to approval by the SEC.
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Operating Rules Discussion
• The original thoughts
• Where we go from here
• Formal documentation
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Original Concepts
• TAG reviews PAR/5 Criteria– Includes coexistence language– Stresses need for coexistence as an evaluation criterion– Coexistence Guideline document will have more details
• TAG Reviews Draft at letter ballot– Group solicits comments across 802.19 voters
• Can be from all working groups
• 802.19 will vote to endorse or not endorse a draft, with comments
– Coexistence vote and comments delivered to SEC at or before Sponsor Ballot
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Modifications to procedure
• 802.19 appears to be also a facilitator– Joint sessions with WG/TG to air specific
coexistence presentations– Conference calls to help converge to
selection criteria– Ad hoc meetings to help identify and
resolve issues
May 2003
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Formal Documentation
• See document 03/002
• Modeled after 802.3 rules– Uses “standard” LMSC template– Modified for TAG
• TAG cannot write standards (per LMSC rules), only “Guidelines” and “Recommended Practices”
• Must also be ratified by SEC
