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Italian Steam –Italian Steam –a modellers’ perspectivea modellers’ perspective
Jim FordJim FordSouthport and District Model Railway Southport and District Model Railway
ClubClub1818thth October 2011 October 2011
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Today’s talkToday’s talk
• Why model steam era Italian railways?• A bit about Italy and Italian railways• An overview of Italian locomotive
development• Locomotive policy of the Ferrovia del Stato• Translating Italian Steam into model
railways
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Why model steam era Italian Why model steam era Italian railways?railways?
• 1970s• Visit to Italy with Auntie Marie• Dissatisfaction with primitive UK items• Clochmerle• Don Camillo• Nick Woods• San Nazario• Tavola
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A bit about Italy and Italian railwaysA bit about Italy and Italian railways
• What do these countries have in common?– Italy, Greece, Germany, Estonia and Norway
• When was the last new Italian steam loco built - 1927, 1937, 1947 or 1957?
• What 4 letters sum up Italian steam design?• What happened in 1905?• What was the immediate consequence?
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Northern ItalyNorthern Italy
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Central ItalyCentral Italy
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Southern ItalySouthern Italy
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Italian locomotive developmentItalian locomotive development
• Early imported products - UK, US builders• 1850s – Medoc (2-4-0) and Borbonese (0-6-0)
• 1870s – early domestic designs, Turin etc• 1905 – 12 standard classes
– Common components– Compounding– Superheating– Caprotti, Crosti and Franco-Crosti
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Early importsEarly imports
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Early Domestic designs - FNM 200Early Domestic designs - FNM 200
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FNM 200 by Hornby RivarossiFNM 200 by Hornby Rivarossi• Chinese• 3.8 mm/foot• Spectacular
coaches like WHR
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FNM 270FNM 270• FNM• Milan• Late 19th C• Personal
favourite
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Modelling Italian Steam in the 60sModelling Italian Steam in the 60s
• Good range of locos produced until the early 1980s by Rivarossi and others
• Good stock too, but preserved in aspic as:-• But 3.8mm scale therefore not compatible
with modern Chinese Hornby-Rivarossi• Excellent runners, but bulky motors• Representative of standard classes
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835 prototype835 prototype• 1905 standard• Florentine• widespread• Counter
pressure brake
• 1960s convertedto diesel
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835835
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835 R/R model835 R/R model
• Fairly basic• Lacks detail• But compare
it with Triang Jinty!
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851851• 1898• Adriatic• Mountain
lines, but• Later used
for shunting• 6 plinthed
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851851
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851 R/R model851 R/R model• Later
model• Super-
detailed• Excellent
runner
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685 Walschaerts685 Walschaerts• 1912-27• Simple 4• 390 built• 685.410trialled withturbine ’34• w/d 1980
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685 Walschaerts685 Walschaerts
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685 Walschaerts685 Walschaerts
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685 Walschaerts685 WalschaertsAcquired from Alan NeedhamFleishmann model - Chunky/clunkyBut still 3.8mm scale……
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685 Caprotti685 Caprotti• Originally
class 686• 1924-34
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685 Caprotti685 Caprotti
• More recent Rivarossi product but still 30 years old
• Acquired Southport show
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740740
• 1918-23• 470 built• 2-cyl simple• 80 still in
use in 1980
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740 Rivarossi740 Rivarossi• Merseyside show 2 years ago • Trenhobby kit – wired the wrong way round!
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940940
• 1921-25• Superheated• Tank version
of 740• 25 left in 1980
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940940
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940940
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625625
• 1910-22• Simple• Outside
Walschaert’s and inside cylinders
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625625
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625625• Nice model but still quite basic
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623 Franco-Crosti623 Franco-Crosti• 1952-54
rebuilds of 625
• 25% savings
• 10 wereCaprotti
• 1970scrapped
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623623
Latest and best of the old Rivarossi - 1980s
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691691• 1911-18• 1928-34
Rebuilt
• 1958 w/d due to
electrification
• 691.022 preservedstatic
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691class691class
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Rivarossi 691Rivarossi 691
• Top of the range• Obtained at Southport Show
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Not available in 3.8 mmNot available in 3.8 mm• 640• 741• 743• 623
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ImportsImports• 8Fs• Dean
Goods• American• Austrian
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Thanks for listening!Thanks for listening!
A fond farewell from sunny and snowy Italy!