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INTERNATIONAL
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Attorneys for Defendant RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER
Facsimile: 212.674 ,4614 FEB 2 1 2013
Attorneys for Defend antCHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CAL IFORNIA
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, CENTRAL DISTRICT
LAURA ANN DeCRESCENZO ,
Plaintiff ,
Case No . BC411018
Assigned for All Purposes to the Hon. RonaldSoh igian , Dept. 41
v.
INTERNATIONAL , a corporate entity ,REL IGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER ,
previously sued herein as Doe No. 1, a
California Corporation , and DOES 2-20,
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
DECLARATION OF ALLAN
CARTWRIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO
PLA INTIFF 'S MOTION TO COMPEL OR
FOR TERM INAT ING SANCTIONS
Defendants.
Judge : Hon. Ronald SohigianDept.: 41Date: March 6, 2013
Time : 1:30 p.m.
Filed concurrently with Opposition toPlaintiff 's Motion to Compel; Declaration ofNicho las F . Daum ; Declaration of WarrenMcShane; Evidentiary O bjections
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DECLARAT ION OF ALLAN CARTWRIGHT IN OPPOSIT ION TO PLA INTIFF,S MOTION TO COMPEL OR
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DECLARATION OF ALLAN CARTWRIGHT
I, Allan Cartwright, declare as follows:
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I have personal knowledge of the facts set forth in this declaration, and if called
upon as a witness, I could and would competently testify thereto.. .
2. I have been a member of the clergy of several churches of Scientology since 1974.
My main po st responsibility before 1982 was the training of Church m inisters and overseeing staff
and parishioners'
study of the Scientology Scripture.
3 . In 1982 I became a full time member of the clergy when I joined Scientology's
religious order called the Sea Organization. Since then I have worked in several dif ferent
positions regarding legal matters for churches of Scientology. In 2006,1 assumed the position of
Legal Director for CSI .
4. In her declaration dated February 7, 2013, Ms. DeCrescenzo claims that she was
told (by whom is not identified) and understood that "anyone who was senior to [her]" within CSI
would be perm itted to review the contents of her auditing folder regardless of whether or not they
were an auditor. This assertion is not true and is con trary to Ms . DeCrescenzo'
s prior testimony.
In her deposition, Ms. DeCrescenzo testified that she reported a particularly sensitive personal
incident to "the auditor that was auditing me, Chris Swanson;" (Mr . Kris Swanson is identified in
CSI' s privilege log as "KS" reflecting the correct spelling of his first name.)
Q . And then after you reported this to Chris Swanson what happened next?
A. Nothing . .. . It was like an auditing session so it was considered confidential
priest/penitent privileged information."
A true and co rrect copy of this excerpt from her deposition is attached hereto as Exhibit A .
I attended Ms . DeCrescenzo,s deposition and can personally attest that this transcript, which Ms.
DeCrescenzo has also signed and authenticated, is accurate .
5. In add ition, I can state from my own personal experience - having been an
executive in Scientology chu rches for over 30 years, and having supervised dozens of staff as my
juniors, that I have never looked in the auditing fi les of any of them. In fact, it has never ever
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even occurred to me to do so, as this is simply not something that any Scientologist - executive or
not - would do .
6. The documents that CSI has withheld from production on the basis of the clergy-
penitent privilege are documents contained in the . "
auditing" folder of Ms. DeCrescenzo . The bulk
of these documents are made up of records or notations from aud iting sessions. When a document
from the auditing folder is referred to as "confidential communication in spiritual counseling
session between LD and her clergyman ...,"
the document is precisely a record or notation of an
auditing session , and nothing else . These records or notes of auditing sessions are prepared, under
Scientology doctrine, on standardized forms, and the preparation of such notes by the aud itor is
itself a critical part of the auditing process, as cod ified under Scientology Scripture .
7. In add ition to documents withheld that are simply records or notations of
communications between Ms . DeCrescenzo and an auditor, CSI has also withheld documents that
reflect communications between a Case Supervisor and auditor concerning Ms. DeCrescenzo'
s
communication in session and upcoming auditing sess ions for Ms. DeCrescenzo . These records
are required under Church doctrine to be maintained as strictly confidential within a parishioner'
s
auditing file . Such documents specifically describe or refer to communications made in previous
aud iting sessions by Ms. DeCrescenzo , and, as such , they also reflect confidential auditing
commun ications made by Ms . DeCrescenzo in the auditing process. These communications
between the auditor and the C/S regarding Ms . DeCrescenzo,s auditing were clearly described in
CSI's privilege log.
8. Each penitential communication described in the privilege log was disclosed
exclusively to a single Scientology clergy person , who , under the discipline and practice of
Scientology, was authorized to hear such communications, and had an ob ligation under
Scientology tenets to keep them confidential . The aud iting file includes records of confidential
communications Ms. DeCrescenzo made to Scientology clergy persons with formal titles of
Examiner and Director of Processing concerning her spiritual progress, which also remain secret
and are kept exclusively in the auditing file . As explained in the Declaration of Warren McShane,
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an Examiner is a trained aud itor who, as required by Scientology Scripture, mee ts with the
parishioner in a private room immediately follow ing every auditing session. The parishioner has
the opportunity to communicate to the Exam iner, in confidence, about his auditing session or
anything else he wishes to originate. The Examiner writes down the parishioner'
s . .. . . ..
communications, and this document then goes into the auditing folder . The Director of Processing
is also a trained auditor who , under the direction of the Case Supervisor, meets with the
parishioner for confidential communications regarding the paishioner>
s spiritual condition or
progress. Interviews with the Director of Processing are always conducted in a confidential
setting , and the notes of the parishioner'
s communication are always placed into the aud iting
folder, and nowhere else as described in Scientology Scripture .
9. Laura DeCrescenzo was a member of the Sea Org from 1991 through 2004, and the
vast m ajority of the aud iting which she received was during tho se years when she was in the Sea
Org as a staff member of CSI . There were approximately 500 members of the Sea Org working
along with Ms. DeCrescenzo at our Los Angeles facility. A high percentage of these dedicated
staff are clergymen, and , based upon our review of the auditing file, at different times different
clergym en acted as auditors or Case Supervisors for Ms. DeCrescenzo . As relected in the
privilege log, there are 42 files of her auditing, which took place over a thirteen-year period in
both Los Angeles and Albuquerque, with Ms. DeCrescenzo sometimes receiving auditing on a
daily basis. It is therefore not unusual that she had a large number of auditors and Case
Supervisors during this time period .
10 . In almost all cases, Ms. DeCrescenzo's auditors and Case Supervisors have been
identified by name in the privilege log , and , as noted above, in all such cases the relevant auditors
or Case Supervisors were trained clergymen within Scientology doctrine . However, as all records
written by an auditor during or just after an auditing session are handwritten , it sometimes occurs
that the auditor does not clearly print his name (or om its to record it at all) . In compiling CSI,s
privilege log , when we encountered this situation , it was no ted on the log that the auditor'
s name
was illegible . However, since the format for auditing reports is uniform throughout the
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Scientology world (as required by our Scripture), it is clear to any trained Scientologist what the
record of an auditing session looks like. Therefore, in putting together the privilege log, we were
able to determ ine which documents were auditing records, even if we were unable to identify the
aud itor . . .. , . .11 . Based on the Court,s most recent ruling on the plaintiffs motion to compel, CSI
has not withheld from production every document found within the Plaintiffs aud iting file.
Rather, when a document was found within the plaintiffs aud iting i le that was not a record of a
confidential commun ication between plaintiff and a clergyman or a confidential communication
between the auditor and Case Supervisor that would disclose communications made in the course
of plaintiff s auditing that document was produced .
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the
foregoing is true and correct, and that I executed this docum ent on February 21 , 2013 at Los
Angeles, California .
Allan Cartwright
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
MARC HEADLEY , )\
Plaintiff, )\
vs . ) CASE No. CVO9
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CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY )
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INTERNATIONAL , a corporate )\i
entity, and DOES 1-20 , )\)
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VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF LAURA ANN DIECKMAN
Los Angeles , California
Monday, February 1 , 2010
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Reported by: Wendy S . SchreiberCSR No . 3558
NDS Job No.: 135318
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1 were now going to begin to route out .
2 A . I was going to go through whatever because I
3 didn 't want to lose my parents and so I figured , you
4 know, I'll go through the sec checking or whatever
02 38 53 5 it is that I need to do so I can leave . I knew at6 that point , you know, that meant that I was going to
7 lose my spouse because he wasn 't about to come with
8 me at that time . And generally that meant that I
9 was going go have to do mest work which means , you02 39 13 10 know , like I said working on the roof of the HI . We
11 were doing something with the tiling , doing things
12 like sanding and sheet rocking and crap like that.
13 Q . Manual labor still?
14 A . Yes .
02 39 28 15 Q . Okay.
16 A . And then I got back and I was gotten in for
17 the auditing and whatnot and at that point I started
18 to feel suicidal . I actually still to this day have
39 58 20 which is like completely pointless , but I was
21 literally so -- I don't have words to express how I
Ti 22 felt at that point in time .
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1 A . Yes .
2 Q . And you had one of your earrings?
3 A . Yes .
4 Q . And , what , you take the sharp end of the ear
02 40 23 5 piece and begin rubbing it against your wrist?
6 A . Yes .
7 Q . And did you cause yourself to begin
8 bleeding ?
9 A . Well, I have a scar on my arm .
02 40 32 10 Q . Were you trying to kill yourself?
11 A . I don,t know what I was trying to do . I was
12 so blah at that time I don't know . You know , I told13 them at the time that when it happened that I did it
14 and - -02 40 45 15 Q . To whom did you report that?16 A. The auditor that was auditing me , Chris7 Swanson.8 Q . And Chris Swanson was the auditor auditing
40 54 20 the beginning of the routing-out process?
21 A . No , this was the beginning of the handling
22 process .
23 Q .
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24 A . They wanted me to stay .
-...02 40 59 25 Q . They wanted to encourage you to remain?
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1 A . Yes .
2 Q . I see .
3 A . They wanted me to go to the RPF .
4 Q . I understand . If you go to the RPF , you can02 41 08 5 be rehabilitated and remain in the Sea Org?
6 MR . VAN SICKLE : Object to the form of the
7 question .
8 THE WITNESS : No , they could keep me there
9 so I could get back and work for them more .
02 41 12 10 BY MR. BRODY :
11 Q . Well, when you had been -- you said you were
12 familiar with the routing-out process. Was part of
13 it to encourage people to remain in Sea Org?
14 A . Yes .
02 41 22 15 Q . So you told the people that you had done
16 whatever you did with the earring , and as I
17 understand it you rubbed it or dragged it acros s
18 your wrist hard enough to cause yourself to , I don ,t19 know , have a scratch because you say you"re scarred
02 41 39 20 now ?
21 A . Yeah . It's not -- not of any significance .
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1 A . Nothing . I didn 't report it. It was like
2 an auditing session so it was considered
3 confidential priest/penitent privileged information .
4 Q . Well, did you continue the routing-out
02 42 09 5 process after this incident with the earring?
6 A . I was never put on a routing form - or put on
7 any kind of thing to route out. They were handling
8 me to go to the RPF .
9 Q . So what happened next?
02 42 22 10 A . Then -- then , you know , I was doing -- one
11 day I was doing mest work in the HI . I was sanding
12 or painting or something in a room and Katie
13 Johnston came up to me and said , "Come with me."
Took me outside the HI downstairs by the dumpsters
02 42 50 15 and gave me a toothbrush and said , "You need to
16 scrub the dumpsters with a toothbrush."
17 And I told her to fuck off , I wasn't going
18 to do it. And I walked away and I said -- and she
19 tried to physically restrain me to bring me back and
02 43 03 20 I said , "Get your hands off me or I,m going to
21 become violate . I 'm not going -- you 're not going
- 122 to sit there and hold me back and bring me -- drag
23 me back into the HI." So I took a walk around the
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
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I , WENDY S . SCHREIBER, do hereby certify :
That I am a duly qualified Certified Shorthand
Reporter , in and for the State of California , holder of
certificate number 3558 , which is in full force and
effect and that I am authorized to administer oaths andaffirmations;
That the foregoing depositipn testimony of the
herein named witness was taken before me at the time and
place herein set forth ;
That prior to being examined , the witness named
in the foregoing deposition , was duly sworn or affirmed
by me , to testify the truth , the whole truth , and
nothing but the truth ;
That the testimony of the witness and all
objections made at the time of the examination were .
recorded stenographically by me , and were thereafter
transcribed under my direction and supervision ;
That the foregoing pages contain a full, true
and accurate record of the proceedings and testimony to
the best of my skill and ability ;
That prior to the completion of the foregoing
deposition , review of the transcript was requested .
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I further certify that I am not a relative or
employee or attorney or counse l of any of the parties ,
nor am I a relative or employee of such attorney or
counsel, nor am I financially interested in the outcome
of this action.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF , I have subscribed my name
this 8th day 0f February 2010.
WENDY S . SCHREIBER , CSR No. 3558
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