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Week# 262
Apr 26, 2013
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Are they are real?Are they all same?Whom should I follow?
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Every soul is not at the same level
Interest in Spirituality comes only when one has accumulated sukrti…
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Only a very small fraction of the souls are trapped inside material worlds due to their desire to enjoy away from Krsna
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Five Simple Questions
1. Is liberation possible without a Guru?2. Do all saints have guru?3. Is attaining Krsna possible without
guru?4. Why do I need a guru?5. Why does one refuse to take a guru?
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1. Is Liberation possible without a Guru?
What is termed as Liberation ?
•Attaining Brahman?•Attaining any of 5 kinds of mukti?
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Baddha Jiva &Mukta Jiva
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Five Kinds of Liberation
• Sayujya - Become one with Lord – Brahma Sayujya (Jnani)– Ishvara Sayujya (Yogi)
• Salokya - Live with Lord on same planet • Sarupya - To have the same form as
Lord• Sarshti - To enjoy same opulences as
Lord• Samipya - To live as companion of the
Lord
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Brahma ańga-kānti tāńra, Nirviśesa prakāśeSūrya yena carma-cakse, Jyotir maya bhāse
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•Is fifth grade teacher teaches samething as a college teacher?
•Unlimited destinations in Spiritual World•Different Gurus coming from different
planes of the Spiritual world..•Souls choose the guru as per their
Svarupa and level of consciousness
Are all Gurus same!
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Lower levels of consciousnessLower levels of consciousness
Minute SpeciesInsectsBirdsBeasts (Animals)Human
Human beings are given with ‘Nara’ sastras.
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Higher levels of consciousnessHigher levels of consciousness
GandarvasVidyadharasCaranasKimpurushasAngelsDemi-gods
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rudrādityā vasavo ye ca sādhyāviśve 'śvinau marutaś cosmapāś cagandharva-yaksāsura-siddha-sańghāvīksante tvām vismitāś caiva sarve - B.G 11.22
All the various manifestations of Lord Śiva, the Ādityas, the Vasus, the Sādhyas, the Viśvedevas, the two Aśvīs, the Maruts, the forefathers, the Gandharvas, the Yaksas, the Asuras and the perfected demigods are beholding You in wonder.
So many levels of Consciousness!So many levels of Consciousness!
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How many of you remember the Chile mining disaster in 2010?(33 miners, 700 meters below for 17+ days)
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Baddha jivas are the fallen souls.Krishna arranges to send His devotees to come down to save us..
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Who is a fallen soul?Who is a fallen soul?
“Anyone who is not able to chant the holy names of the Lord at least 64 rounds a day (1 lakh names), he is clearly fallen” – Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Goswami
“Anyone who is not able to chant the holy names of the Lord at least 64 rounds a day (1 lakh names), he is clearly fallen” – Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Goswami
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What does Chanting do?
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2. Do all saints have guru?
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Many may not know about Guru Nanak of Sikhs
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Srinivasaye ViswambharaKirtan madyare viharNanak Saranga ye duiRupa Sanatana duibhaiJagai Madhai ekatraKirtan Karanti Nritya
Srinivasaye ViswambharaKirtan madyare viharNanak Saranga ye duiRupa Sanatana duibhaiJagai Madhai ekatraKirtan Karanti Nritya
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Lord Caitanya asked Guru Nanak to protect the Sanatan Dharma like warriors. But they now become soldiers to protect the land.
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Kabir’s InitiationKabir was a MuslimWho wanted to have a GuruHe knew a Guru holds the keySo he went to Ramananda
Ramananda was a Hindu.Who refused many timesFor initiating a Muslim.So Kabir devised a plan. He dug a hole on a nightAnd hid covered with grassOn the path to the riverWhere Ramananda comes
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Ramananda stepped on Kabir,And yelled the mantra, “Ram Ram”,Kabir jumped up and bowed to himAnd took the mantra home.
He held the mantra in his heartRepeated without a stop,Through that blessed mantraKabir saw the Lord. Kabir sank in ecstasySpoke and composed songsWhen asked about his GuruHe said it was Ramananda.
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News went to RamanandaWho was well known by name“I do not know this person.His words spoil my name.”
He ordered the public,To dispute the claim.Kabir was brought to the crowdAnd put in front of every one!
Ramananda asked in anger“Tell us who is your Guru?”“It's you!” kabir bowed.“You gave me the mantra”
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“..You refused many times.So I dug a hole in your path.You stepped on me where I was And yelled me the mantra”
Ramananda took off his slipper,Exclaiming, “What lies you've said!'And in anger said,“Ram Ram”,As his slipper hit Kabir's head ! "Ah,” spoke Kabir smiling,"Perhaps my words were lies,Now you have given me initiationIn front of all these people!”
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Ramananda’’s heart softened.“Your words are true Kabir!The Lord has honored you.My blessings now you have ”
Even Lord takes up guruBut you do not need a guru!Because you know better than Lord,As you drown in the well hard !
Find a master who stirs your heart,Who's found him as Lord’s part.The mantra he gives you for sureWill set your heart on fire !
Two divisions of Sastras and worship..Two divisions of Sastras and worship..
Paramārtha – higher transcendental literatures based on Sruti (which is revealed)
Smārta – literatures based on Smrti (which is remembered)[Smrti is secondary to Sruti]
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Once Kabir came to know about a new Ram temple opening in South India..He collected special waters from the Tirthas, and went..But what happened?
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3. Is attaining Krishna possible without a guru?
Look at Brahma!
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How shoud one approach Krishna ?
Prathaman tu gurum pūjyāmTataś caiva mamārcanamKurvan siddhim avāpnoti hyAnyathā nisphalam bhavet (Hari Bhakti Vilasa 4.344)
Lord Krsna says,”One must always worship one’s guru first and only then worship Me. When one follows this gets perfection, but if one neglects this process, everything will be fruitless (or useless).
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Samsāra-dāvānala-līdha-lokaTrāņaya kāruņya ghanāghanatvamPrāptasya kalyāņa guņārņavasyaVande guroh sri caraņāravindam (01)
Just as a rain cloud extinguishes a blazing forest fire by showering its rain, Sri Gurudeva, by his rain of divine mercy, delivers the people burning in the fire of material existence, suffering the threefold miseries. I offer prayers unto the lotus feet of Sri Gurudeva, who is an ocean of auspicious qualities.
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Kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, Sūdra kene nayaYei krșņa-tattva-vettā, Sei guru haya (C.C. Madhya 8.128)
“Whether one is a brahmana, a sannyasi or a sudra -- regardless of what he is -- he can become a spiritual master if he knows the science of Krsna."
Who can be a guru?Who can be a guru?
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According to Padma Purana, Four sampradayas are authorized for the age to attain Lord Krishna, or Lord Vishnu, or Lord Narayana
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4. Do I need a Guru?
School – “Cary, Morrisville – move there!”Kinderkarten? – “Come on, Let’s get montisery!”Tennis – ‘Do you know any good teacher?’Music – “I need a teacher from authentic parampara!”Medical problem – “I need a 2nd opinion”
For Spiritual help – I can do it by myself!
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Even God takes up Guru..
Question: Who is the guru of Lord Krishna?
Sandipani?Garga Muni..
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Fully Obeying and surrendering to Guru is the only way to get his blessing and mercy
Krishna went out even to collect fire wood for his guru.
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[When a lotus flower is situated in water, the rays of the sun cause it to blossom. The same sun, however, will wither a lotus which is not situated in water. In this example, the disciple is compared to the lotus, Sri Guru to water, and the Supreme Lord to the sun]
narāyaņo ‘pi vikrtim yāti guroh pracyu-tasya durbuddhehkamalam jalād apetamsoșayati ravir na poșayati ..…(Jaladakhyana Samhita)
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5. Why does one refuse to take a guru?
1. Ego2. Lack of Sukrti3. Bad Association
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If you pray to Krishna, He will give you a Guru..
If you have a Guru, he will give you Krishna
Guru is a special mercy of Krishna
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Gurudeva! Krpā bindu diyā, koro ei dāse, Trnāpeksā ati hīna
Sakala sahane, bala diyā koro, Nija-māne sprhā-hīna
Sakale sammāna, korite śakati, Deho nātha! Yathā yatha
Tabe to’ gāiba, harināma sukhe, Aparādha ha’be hata
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Gurudeva! Krpā bindu diyā, koro ei dāse, Trnāpeksā ati hīna
Kabe heno krpā, labhiyā e jana, Krtārtha hoibe nātha!
Śakti-buddhi-hīna, āmi ati dīna, Koro more ātma-sātha
Yogyatā-vicāre, kichu nāhi pāi, Tomāra karunā sāra
Karunā nā hoile, kā(n)diyā kā(n)diyā, Prāna nā rākhibo āra
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End of
Hari Katha
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1. Guru Tattva2. Jiva Tattva3. Abhideya Tattva4. Sakti Tattva5. Nama Tattva6. Bhagavan Tattva7. Bhakti Tattva8. Bhakta Tattva9. Prema Tattva
18 Main Tattvas (9 Important)
If we do not understand Guru Tattva, we cannot understand any of the tattvas.
Can you tell at least one Tattva which is not in this list?
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1. Guru Tattva2. Jiva Tattva3. Abhideya Tattva4. Sakti Tattva5. Nama Tattva6. Bhagavan Tattva7. Bhakti Tattva8. Bhakta Tattva9. Prema Tattva
