dorion cairns - conversations with husserl and fink

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r ' PHAENOMENOLOGICA- DQRIQN (jAIRI\‘§§ COLLECTION FQNDEE PAR H. 1.. van BREDA ET PUBLIEE. sous ' E DES CENTRES D’Al(CHIVES-HUSSERL n | , Corwersatzons war/2 Husserl and Fm/r LE PATROBAG _ EDITEIJ RY THE1-{USSERL-ARC'IIIVli5 IN LOUVAIN. DORION CAIRNS WITH A FOREWORD BY RICHARD M. ZANER Conversations with Husserl and Fink EDITED BY THE HUSSERL-ARCIIIVES IN LOUVA11\‘. WITH A FOREWORD BY RICHARD M. ZANER 0 '(-1 0 _ 4 F} '1 o.|.'D3_§+ HI Comité de rédaction de la collectio Présideni: S. Ijsseling (Leuven); Membres: M. Farbcr (Buffalo), E. Finkf (Freiburg i. Br.), L. Landgrebe, (K6111), \.V. Marx (Freiburg i. BL), ]. .\T. Mohanty (New York}, P. Ricocur (Paris), E. Strfjkcr {K6111}, ' ]. Tammaux {Louvain}, K. H. Vulkmann-Schluck (K6111); I _ _ T __ T _ _ _ SBC1'é1§fl.iI'Bl 'l‘an‘linaux I MA R rII\ [J E) N I] H O I‘ F fl FHE HAG UE J." 1976

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    TABLEo

    rCO

    NTENTS

    Lxvrrr.Conversation

    with

    Husserl,2111132LXIX.

    Conversationw

    ithHusserland

    Fink,15111132

    Appendix1.Topics,Husserlconversation,241613111.

    Conversationw

    ithHusserl,2516131

    111.Conversation

    with

    Husserl,2716131

    Works

    byH

    assertmentioned

    inthe

    Conversations

    Index01names

    Indexofsubjects

    v1199100

    103104105

    107

    109

    III

  • FO

    RE

    WO

    RD

    Thisis

    anunusualvolum

    e.During

    hisperiods

    ofstudyw

    ithEd-

    mund

    Husserlfirstfrom

    1924to

    1926,thenfrom

    I931to

    1932-

    Dorion

    Cairnshad

    become

    imm

    enselyim

    pressedw

    iththe

    stri-king

    philosophicalquality

    ofI-lusserls

    conversationsw

    ithhis

    studentsand

    co-workers.Notunlike

    hisdaily

    writing

    (fiveto

    sixhours

    aday

    wasnot

    uncomm

    on,as

    Husserlreportsherein,

    thenature

    ofwhich

    wasa

    continuoussearching,

    reassessing,m

    odi-fying,

    advancingand

    evenrejecting

    offormer

    views},Husserls

    conversations,especially

    evidencedfrom

    Cairns'srecord,

    wererem

    arkablefor

    theirdepth

    andprobing

    character.Because

    ofthis,and

    becauseofthe

    importantlight

    theythrew

    onI-IusserI's

    written

    andpublished

    works,Cairns

    hadearly

    resolvedto

    setdown

    inwriting,

    asaccurately

    aspossible,the

    detailsofthese

    conversations.Largely

    prompted

    bythe

    questionsand

    concernsofhis

    students,includingCairns,the

    presentConversations(from

    thesecond

    period,19311932,exceptforthe

    initialconversation)provide

    asignificant,

    intriguing,and

    alwaysfascinating

    insightinto

    boththe

    issuesw

    hichwere

    prominentto

    Husserlatthistim

    e,and

    thew

    ayhe

    hadcom

    eto

    viewthe

    systematic

    andhistorical

    placementofhis

    own

    earlierstudies.Cairns

    hadoften

    insisted

    principallyin

    hisrem

    arkablelec-

    turesatthe

    Graduate

    Facultyofthe

    NewSchooll

    thatattainingafairand

    accurateview

    ofHusserlsenorm

    ouslyrich

    andcom

    plex

    1Cairnss

    lecturesbetween

    1956and

    1964are

    especiallyim

    portant.He

    addressedhim

    selfto

    suchtopics

    as:Hl1sserl's

    Theoryof

    lntenticmality

    {atour-sem

    estercourse);

    "TinePhenom

    enologyof

    Thinking";

    ]:lpiste|nology";as

    well

    asseveral

    coursesdealing

    with

    ethicsand

    value-theory,and

    major

    figuresi|1

    thehistory

    ofP11i10s0phY

    (especiallyLocke,

    Kant,

    Hum

    e,and

    rgthcentury

    thought).These

    lec-tures,m

    ostofwhich

    were

    written

    outinfull,

    forman

    importantpartofC

    airnsspapers

    which,

    itis

    expected,w

    illbe

    preparedfor

    publicationover

    thenext

    years.

  • XF

    OR

    EW

    OR

    D

    bodyof

    work

    requiredthat

    onebegin

    onesstudies

    with

    thoseworks

    whichwere

    written

    atthepeak

    ofHusserlsphilosophical

    powers,and

    thenone

    couldsensibly

    turnto

    therestofthe

    cor-pus,always

    readingit,however,in

    thelightofthe

    former.This

    or-der,Cairnsm

    aintained,placedthe

    CartesianM

    editation-$2first,fol-

    lowed

    bythe

    Formaland

    Tra-nscemieatalLogic,'3

    onlyafter

    mas-

    teringthese,could

    onem

    eaningfullystudy

    Ideas,I4(w

    itha

    focuson

    PartII,

    sincet-lusserlrightly

    hadserious

    reservationsabout

    Partl,

    which

    heregarded

    astoo

    unclear).After

    this,one

    couldthen

    turnto

    thelargely

    pre-philosophical(and

    certainlypre-

    transcendental)Logical

    Irioesti'gati'or-is,5and

    thenthe

    restof

    Husser1sworks,

    publishedand

    unpublished.The

    presentCon-

    versationsconfirm

    preciselythis

    interpretation,and

    moreover

    givethe

    rationalefor

    it:as

    isam

    plyclearherein,it

    wasonly

    inthe

    lightofhis

    laborsin

    ther92os

    culminating

    inthe

    firsttw

    ow

    orksm

    entionedabove,

    thatHusserlcam

    eto

    alevelofgenuine

    philosophicalmaturity

    fromthe

    perspectiveofw

    hichthe

    earlierstudies

    andinquiries

    couldbe

    viewedsystem

    aticallyand

    assessedas

    totheir

    approximation

    to,or

    failurefully

    toachieve,

    age-

    nuinelyphilosophicalsignificance.

    Hence,iffor

    nootherreason,

    theseCorwersah'ons

    haveboth

    historicalandsystem

    aticim

    por-tance

    forunderstandingllusserl's

    ownviews

    ofhisw

    ork.Coming

    3E

    dmund

    Husserl,

    Carcsiam'sri;e

    .-lfetiritatitmen

    mid

    ParriscrI'ortr&gc.

    Herausge-

    gebenund

    eingeleitetvon

    Prof.

    llr.S.Slrasser.

    Hnsserliana

    BandI.

    Hang:

    Martinus

    Nijhoff,

    I950.Eng.

    tr.by

    Dorion

    Cairns.

    The.I-lagne:

    Marliiius

    Nijhoff,

    I960.3

    Edm

    undH

    usserl,Form

    alsand

    trait-szcndentaleLogiic.

    Vrrsucheincr

    Kritik

    defIogischm

    Vrrrmm

    .H

    alle:M

    axN

    iemeyer

    Verlag,I929.

    ling.tr.

    byD

    orionC

    airns.The

    Hague:

    Martinus

    Nijliuff,

    1969.4

    Edm

    undH

    usserl,Idem

    zueiner

    reimm

    1'Iaa11onie:mngi:andpiiiiuom

    csmiogilscken

    Pkilosophie.lirstes

    Buch:

    Allgenieine

    lilinltihrungin

    diereine

    Phanornenologie.Her-

    ausgegebenvon

    Walter

    lliemel.

    Husserliaiia

    Bandlil.

    Hang:

    l\-IartinusN

    ijhofi,1950.

    5E

    dmunrll~ll1sserl,Logisr:.Fze

    L-ntersacJ;:m_.r,'m.H

    nlle:f\lH.X

    Niem

    eyerVerlag,

    1900,or

    {Vierte

    Auflage,1:325).

    ling.tr.

    by_I.

    N.

    Findlay{in

    two

    volumes],

    fromthe

    2ndedition

    ofI913.

    Ne\v

    York:

    Thellunianities

    Press,1970.

    '5Such

    as"P

    hilosophieals

    strengeW

    issensel-rail,Logos,

    1{191o

    1911},pp.

    289-341

    (Eng.tr.

    byQ

    uentinLauer,

    publishedalong

    with

    anotherof

    Husserl's

    articlesunder

    thetitle:

    II1sn-nrncnologyand

    theC

    risisof

    Ihi-fosopky.N

    ewY

    ork:H

    arperTorchbooks,

    TheAcadem

    yLibrary,

    1965,pp.

    _71:47].

    Otherw

    orksby

    llusserlhavebeen

    carefullyedited

    andp11lJli5hP(l

    underthe

    auspicesofthe

    HusserlA

    rchives,inthe

    seriesentitled

    Husserliana,

    publishedby

    Marlinlis

    Nijhofi.

    Theseother

    works,

    Cairns

    ofteninsisted,

    must

    heread

    inthe

    lightof

    theForm

    aland

    Transcendmtal

    I.o;;,-icand

    theffartesian

    .~'l-feditatrfmi-s;especially

    isthis

    theease

    with

    Erlalirim

    gand

    L-lrtsil,R'n's:'s

    o'erzuropaiscken

    lrl"i$$'n$t;kafi6Bm

    iddie

    transzerrdentafc

    Pkrinoriicnologic,and

    allthe

    studiesleft

    unpublishedby

    Husserl

    duringhis

    lifetime.

    FO

    RE

    VV

    OR

    DX

    I

    soonafterthe

    completion

    ofhissem

    inalFormaland

    Transcenden-talLogic,and

    hislectures

    inFrance,

    thepresentvolum

    erecords

    hissubstantialeffort

    tofind

    aclearw

    ayofpresenting

    thisbasic

    conceptionofphenom

    enology,hisevidentconcern

    tosethis

    ear-lierstudies

    intheir

    propercontext,aswellas

    whathe

    seesas

    them

    ajorthrust

    ofhis

    imm

    ediatelyforthcom

    ingw

    ork.Thus,

    notonly

    them

    ajorthemes

    ofthelogic

    andtheir

    extensionin

    furtherlogicalstudies,but

    alsoan

    importantextension

    tothe

    CartesianMzdiitatziorz-s

    (inas

    many

    asthree

    additionalM

    editations,as

    mentioned

    inthisw

    ork),andsom

    eofthe

    importantthem

    eslatertobe

    takenup

    inthe

    Crisis,arealladdressed

    herein.One

    ofthem

    oststriking

    featuresof

    Husserlslifelong

    effortto

    establisha

    trulyfoundationaldiscipline

    ofphilosophicalcriticismis

    hereexhibited

    quitedram

    atically

    andoften

    toboth

    Cairnssand

    Fink'ssur-

    prise,ifnotdism

    ay.Hardly

    anyinsightorresultis

    regardedby

    Husserl,evenatthis

    latedate

    inhis

    career,asdefinitively

    estab-lished:He

    [andperforce

    hisreaders),finds

    itnecessarycontinual-

    lyto

    re-examine,

    researchagain

    andagain,

    terrainw

    hichm

    ostofhis

    followersand

    criticsw

    ouldlike

    toregard

    asH

    usserlses-

    tablishedview

    s,but

    which

    Husserlhim

    selfis

    neverw

    ontto

    acceptasestablished

    andclosed

    tofurther

    discussion.Thus,not

    onlyhis

    viewsofthe

    ego,constitution,embodim

    ent,intersubjec-tivity,

    time-consciousness,

    Passiv-ia't,and

    otherwell

    known

    themes,but

    evenintentionality

    itselfaresubm

    ittedto

    renewedand

    probingquestioning

    inthese

    Conversations.Nothing

    as

    heem

    phasizesagain

    andagain

    can

    betaken

    asdefinitive;

    inthe

    wordsof

    theForm

    alandTrait-scerideuia!

    Logic,the

    j>oss1Tbiliyofdeception

    isinherentin

    theevidence

    ofexperienceand

    doesnot

    annuleitheritsfundam

    entalcharacteroritseffect

    ..."Indeed,he

    quiteexplicitly

    deniesthat

    evidenceof

    anykinds

    canyield

    anabsolute

    securityagainstdeceptions

    ...9The

    presentCori-oersai-ioas

    giveam

    pleevidence

    thatHusserlmeantprecisely

    what

    hesaid:every

    effort,andclaim

    ,toknow

    inherentlyrequire

    phe-nom

    enologicalexplicativecriticism

    ,and

    thatitself

    necessitatescontinuous

    transcerrdenialself-criticism.

    Thisvolum

    eis

    thelastw

    hichCairns

    hadhim

    selfpreparedfor

    7Form

    alandTranscendentalLogic,op.cit,p.

    156.8

    Ibtd-.pp.

    284-39.9

    Ibii,

    p_157_

  • XII

    FO

    RE

    WO

    RD

    publication.Itwas,however,by

    nomeans

    theonly

    workwhich

    hehad

    hopedto

    publish,theplans

    forwhich

    werecutshortby

    hissudden

    andtragic

    deathin

    january,1973.

    Conversationsw

    ithhim

    earlieron,asa

    resultofwhich

    Ihad

    agreedto

    assume

    legaland

    philosophicalresponsibility

    forhis

    philosophicalw

    ritings,clearly

    indicatedthat

    among

    hisvast

    andextensive

    writings,

    spanninga

    periodofforty

    years,Cairnsbelieved

    thattherewere

    betweenten

    andtw

    elvevolum

    esw

    hichcould

    bem

    anageablyedited

    forpublication

    overthe

    years.W

    iththe

    greatassistance

    ofProfessorFredKersten,who

    iscurrentlyengaged

    incom

    pletinga

    catalogueof

    Cairnsspapers,1"

    itis

    hopedthat

    othersof

    hissem

    inalwritings

    will

    appearsequentially

    inthe

    nearfuture.

    Inthe

    meantim

    e,it

    hasbeen

    decidedto

    placehis

    papers,as

    theyare

    catalogued,w

    iththe

    Centrefor

    AdvancedResearch

    inPhe-

    nomenology,

    underthe

    directorshipof

    Professor_]'os

    Huertas-

    JourdaatW

    ilfridLaurierU

    niversityin

    Waterloo,O

    ntario,Cana-da,along

    with

    thepapers

    ofotherscholarsin

    thephenom

    enologi-caltradition.

    RICHARDM.ZANER

    SouthernM

    ethodistUniversity

    Dallas,Texasjanuary,

    I975

    1"M

    ostim

    mediately,

    Prof.

    Kerstenis

    preparinga

    newtranslation

    ofl-iusserI's

    IdeaI,

    basedon

    Cairnss

    wort-:.It

    isanitinipaterl

    thatthis

    will

    becom

    pleteby

    late1976.O

    thersofC

    airnssw

    orks,especiallyhis

    own

    originalwritings,can

    thenbe

    turnedto.

    ED

    ITO

    R'S

    PR

    EF

    AC

    E

    InI968

    them

    anuscriptofthepresentw

    orkreached

    theHusserl-

    Archivesow

    ingto

    thegood

    officesof

    ProfessorH

    .Spiegelberg.

    Toprepare

    them

    anuscriptforpresswe

    then,inagreem

    entwith

    theauthor,assum

    edthe

    responsibilityforcarrying

    outallthein-

    dispensableeditorialcom

    pilation.U

    nfortunatelyD

    orionCairns

    wasnot

    grantedthe

    scrutinizingof

    thesubm

    ittedw

    ordingnor

    theelaboration

    ofhisprojected

    preface.As

    with

    CairnssG-aidefortranslating

    Hasserlthe

    editorsaim

    edatpreparing

    forpressa

    textfaithfultothe

    originalmanuscript.

    Indoing

    sotheir

    interventionswere

    limited

    tothe

    correctionof

    theorthographicaland

    gramm

    aticalmistakes,to

    theelim

    inationofdisturbing

    stylisticirregularities

    andalso

    tothe

    completion

    ofrather

    alot

    ofabbreviations.Through

    hisrepeated

    reviewing

    ofthe

    manuscript

    ProfessorR

    ichardM

    .Zaner

    kindlycontributed

    thereto.Also

    headded

    theelucidative

    completions

    which

    went

    beyondm

    erelinguistic

    mistakes.These

    additionsare

    allindicatedby

    theuse

    ofsquarebrackets

    [].In

    orderto

    facilitatethe

    readingofthis

    work,

    toallG

    erman

    terms

    andexpressions

    wasadded

    atranslation,

    which

    hasbeen

    putbetween

    angularbrackets

    .

    Thesetranslations

    were

    ifpossible

    m

    adeaccording

    toCairns's

    Guide.Ifone

    andthe

    same

    expressionwasrepeatedly

    usedinoneconversation

    thetranslation

    wasindicated

    onlyupon

    itsfirstappearance.

    Allthe

    numbered

    footnoteswere

    suppliedby

    theeditors.These

    footnoteschiey

    comprise

    biographicaland

    bibliographicalre-

    ferences,referringto

    names

    ofpersonsand

    works

    mentioned

    inthe

    text,which

    todaym

    ightbefam

    iliaronlyto

    asm

    allgroupof

    persons.Thereferences

    bearingan

    asteriskwereincluded

    byCairns

    himself.

  • XIVEDITOR'S

    PREFACE

    Inorder

    tofacilitate

    thescientic

    utilizationof

    thisrather

    unusualwork,the

    editorsfinally

    thoughtitusefulto

    adda

    tableofcontents,an

    indexofnam

    es,anindex

    ofsubjectsand

    moreover

    aliststating

    allthew

    orksofHusserlreferred

    to.

    Theeditorialw

    orkwas

    doneby

    R.Bernet,G.deAlm

    eidaand

    R.Parpan,scientificcollaborators

    oftheH

    usserl-Archives,work-

    ingfor

    them

    ostpart

    underthe

    directionofProfessor

    Herm

    anLeo

    VanBreda

    (T1974).Thecorrection

    oftheproofs

    wasaccom

    -plished

    byBrian

    Maguire

    andProfessor

    Richard

    M.Zaner.

    Louvain,AugustI975.H

    usserl-ArchivesI

    Conversationwith

    Husserl,I6/7/26Today

    Icalled

    forthe

    lasttime

    onHusserl.

    Thereins

    Gram

    matik

    (puregram

    mar),

    hesaid,

    isa

    more

    in-clusive

    sciencethan

    onem

    ightassume

    fromthe

    Logis-theU

    rater-suckim

    gerz.Everylanguage

    musta

    priorifigureforth

    theform

    ofthe

    assertion"A

    isB

    ;furtherm

    ore,it111ustsetforth

    them

    odelform

    s:Ais,perhaps,B

    .Thissetting

    forthm

    aybe

    doneby

    thetone

    ofvoice,if

    notexpressly

    byspecialwords.

    Thew

    ordthat

    expressesthe

    modality

    may

    figurein

    anasserted

    whole.A

    isperhaps

    B

    may

    beasserted.Thus,in

    general,them

    odalitym

    aybecome

    partofthem

    atter.Furtherm

    oreevery

    languagem

    ustsetforth

    thedistinctions,

    foundin

    thenaturalEinsteliaag

    (attitude),ofsubjectandobject,

    Ichand

    Umwelt(Ego

    andsurrounding

    world)

    quality,relation,

    etc.

    II

    Conversationw

    ithHusserland

    Becker,24/6/31Yesterday

    ateleven-thirty

    Isaw

    Husserlforthe

    firsttime

    sincem

    yreturn

    toFreiburg.

    Heseem

    edm

    uchthe

    same

    asve

    years3g);hair

    alittle

    grayer,a11dhearing

    alittle

    lesskeen,especially

    folm

    ylow

    -pitchedvoice.

    Beckerlwas

    therewhen

    larrived.

    1O

    skarBecker

    (:88g1964),

    phenomenological

    philosopher,co-editor

    ofH

    usser]sJ""l"'b"c"1

    (Seenote

    8,p.4],

    contributed:1

    smallsupplem

    entto

    l-IusserlsForm

    al:and

    lranszamierxlalz

    Logik.

  • 2C

    ON

    VE

    RS

    AT

    ION

    S

    Apparentlyhe

    wasseeing

    Husserlforthe

    firsttim

    esince

    thelatters

    returnfrom

    lecturingin

    Frankfurt,Berlin,

    andH

    alle.A

    fterafew

    friendlyinquiries,

    Husserlcontinuedto

    speakon

    thegeneralthem

    eofthattrip.

    III

    Comlersat-to-nw

    ithBeckerand

    Kaufmam

    i,25(26

    or27)/6}31'

    Becker,beim

    Tee,bezwe-ifelt,

    obes

    cineallgem

    eineInteresse

    fairHusserljeizigebeu

    refirde-

    obsogar

    derNachlass

    publiziertsein

    wiirde.Kaufm

    annzthinks

    thatin

    theStim

    mem

    g3one

    hasa

    relationto

    thewhole

    world

    thatis

    notbasedon

    Erfakmng

    (ex-perience).Also

    thatactsofcertain

    sorts

    actsofdrinking,

    etc.,cannot

    bee-ingeklam

    mert

    .(See

    Finl

  • 4CONVERSATIONS

    canbe

    graspedonlywhenspacehasbeen

    constituted.Kinaesthesisdiffers

    fromEinpfindnng

    (sensation)byhaving

    anintim

    aterela-

    tionto

    subjectivepotentiality.

    TheI

    canw

    orksdirectly

    onor

    with

    kinaesthesis,andbrings

    aboutsensationalandhence

    objec-tive

    changesonly

    indirectly.The

    identityofan

    objectdepends

    ona

    certainrelation

    tothe

    "ichkann

    (Ican).

    Thebody

    constitutesitself

    throughperceptions

    ofitself,and

    theconstitution

    ofthebody

    asa

    realobjectisa

    necessarycon-

    ditionfor

    theconstitution

    ofarealw

    orldbeyond

    thebody.

    Iasked

    Husserlwhether,if,

    wereit

    impossible

    forthe

    bodyto

    havereflex

    perceptionofitself

    (onehand

    touchthe

    other,the

    eyesee

    thehand,etc.)

    therew

    ouldthen

    bethe

    possibilityofthe

    constitutionofa

    world,orofa

    body.If,e.g.,ouronlysense

    organwas

    theeye,w

    ouldwe

    haveany

    sortofworld?

    Heanswered

    no.Itold

    himaboutBecker's

    recentlectures,whereinhe

    contrastedw

    hathe

    statedto

    beHusserls

    notionof

    possibility,as

    "purepossibility

    alone,w

    ithHeideggers7

    notionof

    possibilityas

    potentiality,Verm

    ogen(ability).N

    aturallyHusserlwas

    astonish-ed

    thatanyone

    couldattem

    pta

    distinctionbetween

    himand

    Heideggeralongthis

    line.For

    fifteenyears

    atleast,he

    hadbeen

    operatingw

    iththe

    notionofM

    ogliciikeitalsI/'ermo'gen

    (possibilityas

    ability)-

    hehad

    evenbeen

    usingthe

    termVerm

    figlichkeii(facultative

    possibility)to

    expressthe

    egosfree

    potentiality.H

    espoke

    ofphenomenology

    asthe

    attempt

    tom

    akeunder-

    standablethat

    which

    presentsitself

    asbrute

    fact,by

    making

    evidentits(rational)

    constitution.This

    inthe

    endw

    illgivem

    ana

    lifehe

    canhonestly

    andfully

    acceptina

    worldhe

    canaccept,

    inspite

    ofbrutefacts

    likewars

    anddeath.

    Thenextjahr/bucks

    isto

    containnot

    onlythe

    Germ

    anof

    theM

    ditaiionsCartsiennes

    butalso

    furthertim

    e-lecturesand

    afurther

    work

    ofFink'sand

    ashortthing

    bya

    Munich

    jurist.Husserlm

    aygive

    asem

    inarnextw

    inter.

    7M

    artinHeidegger,

    {bornr889],

    Riekertsstudentat

    Freiburg,assistantin

    Hus-serls

    philosophicalseminary

    from1916

    until1922,

    editorof

    Vart.-zsungen

    zurPlatinu-

    menologie

    a'esirmeran

    Zeitbewutseins,co-editorofI-lusser|s

    jaltrbnck.3

    jakrbuckM

    rP.-hlosofikie

    andphanom

    wsoiogrischeForscim

    ng:this

    Annual

    forphilosophy

    andphenom

    enologicalresearch"

    wasedited

    byH

    usserlfrom

    1913until

    I930.rt

    volumes

    werepublished.Co-editors

    wereM

    oritzGeiger,Alexander

    Pliinder,A

    dolfR

    einachand

    Max

    Schelcr.These

    were

    lateron

    substitutedor

    joinedby

    Martin

    Heidegger

    andO

    skarBecker.

    WIT

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    SE

    RL

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    DF

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    5

    HusserlcharacterizedHeideggers

    Aristotleinterpretation

    asa

    readingback

    intoAristotle

    ofanattem

    ptto

    answera

    questionw

    hichfirst

    arosein

    Husserlsphilosophy.

    Iforgot

    aboveto

    mention

    anall-im

    portantw

    ideningof

    them

    eaningofkinaesthesis.

    Husserlspokeofthe

    freepossibility

    ofturning

    to"an

    objectinm

    emory

    asinvolving

    kinaesthesia.Pursuing

    thestrain

    indicatedby

    theidea

    ofpotentiality,

    Iasked

    himw

    hetherfeelings

    connectedw

    iththe

    beatingof

    theheartorthe

    processesofdigestion

    werekinaesthesia

    inthe

    same

    senseas

    thefeelings

    connectedw

    ithhand

    oreyem

    ovements,and

    asthe

    kinaesthesiainvolved

    inm

    emory.

    Hereplied

    thatan

    ex-press

    actofvolitionwas

    byno

    means

    necessarilyinvolved

    whenthere

    isa

    connectionbetween

    kinaestheticand

    sensationaldata.The

    ideaofkinaesthesis

    expressesprim

    arilya

    functionalconnec-tion.Thus

    theessentialdistinction

    betweensense

    dataand

    kina-esthetic

    datarem

    ainsunclearform

    e.

    VI

    Noteson

    conversationw

    itliHnsseri,18/7]31

    Ibeganby

    statingthatIwas

    notclear

    aboutthe

    natureofkin-

    aesthesis,andthis

    startedHusserlon

    ananalysis

    ofperception,m

    uchofw

    hichwas

    familiar.To

    theperception

    ofaphysicalobject

    thereis

    necessarynotonly

    theconstitution

    ofacertain

    Einsiim

    -migke-it(harm

    ony,accord,accordance,agreement)in

    theVerlanf

    (course,flow)ofEm

    pfind-ange-n(sensations),butalso

    acorrelatedkinaesthetic

    structure.Along

    with

    thesphere

    ofnrspringlick-er

    Passiuitcit(originary,

    primitive

    passivity)there

    isnot

    onlya

    sphereofA

    ktivitit(activity)butalsoa

    sphereofsecondary

    Passi-W-'5iI'5

    (passivity).The

    latterterm

    indicatesw

    hatnecessarily

    fol-lows

    ofitselfoncewe

    haveactively

    broughtaboutacertain

    situa-tion.E.g.,once

    Ihaveturned

    toward

    perceivingan

    objectacer-

    tainsortofVerlanffindetnotwendig

    stair(course{orflow

    )neces-

    Sarilyoccurs).

    Really

    itis

    aW

    essnsznsaniinenhang(essential

    interconnection).The

    sphereofactivity

    isone

    offreedomand

    inhibition

    thesphere

    wherethere

    issom

    esense

    insaying

    Icanor

    Ican't.

  • 6CONVERSATIONS

    Activity

    goesoutfrom

    acertain

    passivity,acertain

    given.Thisis

    truein

    thecase

    ofmem

    ory.Itry

    torem

    embera

    name.Ich

    be-schciftige

    mick

    mi!den

    Namen

    mid

    docknerm

    agion

    nichteszn

    er-innern9.

    Vihenthe

    processgoes

    furthertow

    ardits

    goal,there

    isa

    Hemninng

    (inhibition).The

    perceptionofan

    objectinvolvesthe

    presenceofa

    bodyas

    organism.

    Only

    becauseI

    amas

    bodya

    thingin

    thew

    orld,may

    Ihavea

    world.These

    analyses,orsomething

    connectedw

    iththis

    generalprob-lem

    ,Husserlwanted

    togive

    asBeilageII

    (supplementII)

    (Really

    asBeiiage

    I)to

    theLog-ische

    Untersnchungenbuthe

    sawthatthe

    analysisofkinaesthesia

    wasinsufficient

    andaccordingly

    hesup-

    pressedthe

    Beifage.TheotherBeiiage

    hadalready

    beenprinted,

    andhence

    itstands

    as"Beilage

    1though

    thereis

    infact

    nofurther

    Be-ilage.(In

    factithas

    nonum

    ber.Husserlgot

    thingsa

    bittw

    istedhere.

    Really

    thething

    thathadalready

    beenprinted

    and

    thatstandsin

    the2d

    edn.asa

    footnote(II,p.364)

    [was]

    referringto

    Beiiage2.1)

    Theconstitution

    ofmy

    bodyform

    eis

    byvirtue

    ofthefactthat

    eachorgan

    isin

    oneorm

    oreways

    objectofanotherorgan.In

    thecase

    ofthekinaesthesia

    oftouch(notthe

    Empfindungen

    (sensations))wehavethe

    2dim

    ensionalkinaestheticfield

    localizedon

    thesurface

    ofthebody.

    Butthe

    two

    arenotidentical.W

    henI

    move

    thebody,

    thesurface

    isdeform

    edbut

    thefield

    ofkin-

    aesthesiaisnot.Indeed,ithasno

    senseto

    speakofthe

    kinaestheticfield

    beingdeform

    ed.The

    eyedoes

    notsee

    theeye,

    andthe

    relationof

    thevisual

    kinaestheticfield

    tothe

    eyeas

    physicalobjectistherefore

    dif-ferent.

    Thereis

    nogeneric

    similarity

    betweenkinaesthetic

    dataand

    sensations.Thelatter

    ~allofthem

    ,butin

    differentdegreesand

    waysaccording

    tothe

    fieldto

    which

    theybelong

    are

    capableofm

    ediatingthe

    perceptionofan

    object.The

    kinaestheticdata

    arenot.

    Butkinaesthetic

    dataform

    among

    themselves

    varioussystem

    sw

    hichin

    turnare

    interrelatedand

    forma

    unity.\Vith

    eachsystem

    9"I

    occupym

    yselfw

    iththe

    names

    and,Yet,

    Icannotrecall

    them".

    1Logische

    Untersucim

    ngen,2nd

    volume,

    rstpart,

    p.364

    (2nded.}.

    WIT

    !-IH

    US

    SE

    RL

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    DI-IN

    K7

    iscorrelated

    an"organ",

    aperceptive

    organ,given

    asan

    objectthrough

    sensationscorrelated

    with

    thekinaesthesis

    orsome

    otherorgan.(This

    isthe

    originalphenomenologicalconceptofan

    organ,and

    itisnotto

    beconfused

    with

    thephysiologicalconcept,though

    itism

    itbestinimend

    (co-determining)

    forthelatter.)

    Thebody

    asorganism

    ism

    adeup

    oftheorganization

    ofsuchorgans

    objects

    with

    correlatedkinaesthetic

    fields.As

    thefield

    ofkinaesthesiais

    theoriginalfield

    ofpotentialityand

    activity,sothe

    bodyas

    organismis

    thefield

    ofimm

    ediateactivity

    inthe

    world

    ofobjects.The

    fieldofpotentiality

    andactivity

    admits

    ofvaryingdegrees

    ofapplicationofenergy.

    Onecan

    attend,e.g.,w

    ithm

    oreorless

    energy.(Locke,

    remarked

    Husserl,had

    noticedthese

    variationsin

    energyand,asekriicherilfe-nsch(an

    honestman),had

    describedthem

    .Lockegoton

    fineas

    longas

    hestuck

    todescription.O

    nlywhen

    hetried

    tobring

    inthe

    outsidew

    orldis

    theSachs

    (matter)

    sckwankend(vaci1lating).)

    Husserlbroughtinthe

    notionofthe

    I-iktinesK

    ind(fictitious

    child)toillustrate

    thatthereare

    developmentalproblem

    sasw

    ellas

    staticanalytic

    problems.

    Inparticular,

    thedevelopm

    entalproblem

    ofthe

    connectionof

    certainkinaesthetic

    connectionsw

    iththeir

    correspondingperceptive

    variations.

    VII

    Conversationw

    ithHusserland

    Fink,I1/8/31

    Husserlaskedif

    Ihad

    questions.I

    mentioned

    two

    problems:

    I)the

    sphereof

    kinaesthesisin

    thew

    idersense

    and2)

    association.The

    meaning

    ofkinaesthesis

    iswidened

    ina

    way

    which

    haslittle

    ornothingto

    dow

    ithaesthesis,so

    Igather.Thebasisis

    thegeneralquality

    ofbeinga

    rangeoffreedom

    forIch-A

    kte(acts

    ofan

    Ego).Thefield

    ofkinaesthesisin

    thenarrow

    ,comm

    on,senseis

    oneoffreedom

    ,ofVorderstitze(antecedents,preconditions)for

    Wahrnekm

    nng(perception).If

    Imove

    my

    headso,Ibring

    aboutcertain

    changesin

    theperceptualfield.So

    alsothere

    areVerde?-

    sdtzeforremem

    beringand

    otheractsw

    ithinthe

    realmoffreedom

    :If

    Ido

    soand

    so,I

    canrem

    ember

    suchand

    such.I

    didnot

    getm

    uchfurtherthan

    thisin

    thism

    atter,which

    formed

    thesubject

  • 8convsnsnrrons

    ofourpreviousconversation.Fink

    agreedw

    ithme

    (afterweleft

    Husserl)that

    theterm

    kinaesthesiswas

    unfortunatelyextended

    tocoverthe

    fieldofspontaneity,ofthe

    {ch-kann(I

    can).Forthe

    rest,Husserlmostly

    restatedalready

    familiarm

    atters:the

    constitutionofan

    objectivew

    orld,ofintersubjectivity,ofthetranscendentalconsciousness.The

    freedomofreturn

    tothe

    same

    objectheem

    phasizedas

    beingim

    portantforthe

    constitutionof

    objectivity.The

    transcendentalegoitself

    isnot,

    inits

    activity,tem

    poralbutrathertemporalising

    (zeitigend).Itlaysdow

    nactsw

    hichbecom

    etem

    porallyidentifiable.Itacquires

    habitus,butasIch-Pol(Ego-pole)

    itis

    notintim

    ethe

    way

    theO

    bjekt-Poi(ob-ject-pole)

    is.(Fink

    pointedout

    thatwhereas

    theDi-ngerschei-

    nungen(physical-thing

    appearances)and

    theirEinstim

    migkeit

    (harmony,accordance)are

    thenecessary

    conditionsfor

    theexis-

    tenceofthe

    Objekt-Pol,itis

    theSnbjekt-Polw

    hichisthe

    necessarycondition

    fortheexistence

    oftheacts,the

    "Snb;iektersckeinnngen"(appearances

    ofthesubject).)

    Thisaboutthe

    atemporality

    ofthepure

    egowas

    newto

    me.

    Inspeaking

    ofhabitu-s,Husserlspokeof

    Habe

    (having,possession),w

    hichm

    adeclearthat

    hewas

    awareof

    theetym

    ologicalsignificance,andon

    thataccount

    chosethe

    word

    nab-itns.

    VIII

    Conversationw

    ithHusserland

    Maloine

    Hnsseri,I3i8/31'

    (Margaretand

    Iatdinner

    atHusserls)Present-day

    culture[is]characterized

    byan

    over-developmentof

    technic.Tech-nik

    issom

    ethingw

    hichcan

    belearned

    without

    learningthe

    culturebehind

    it.Tecknik

    [has]advancedfurtherin

    America

    because[there

    is]lessculture

    thereto

    holdit

    back.Our

    culture[has

    been]determ

    inedfundam

    entallyby

    theideal

    ofscience,w

    hichfirstappearedin

    Greeceandcontinued,though

    mix-

    edw

    ithotherelem

    ents.Todaythe

    idealhasbecom

    elost,though

    thetechnic

    which

    isthe

    resultofsciencerem

    ains.Buttheculture

    itselfmustfind

    itsrenewalin

    arediscoveryand

    thoroughw

    orkingoutofthe

    ideaofscience:phenom

    enology.Thecrisis,the

    impasse,

    ofculture[is]shown

    bythe

    factthattheyoung

    todayare

    dissatis-fied.Before

    ithasbeen

    theold.This

    dissatisfaction[was]recorded

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    byH

    uxley-

    [in]Point

    Counterpoint(Husserlread

    apassage

    wherescience

    iscom

    paredto

    drinkasbeing

    likewisea

    flightfromthe

    harderjobofliving.

    Heseem

    edpleased

    with

    theexposition

    asan

    indictment

    ofpresentday

    non-phenomenologicalscience),

    -[and]by

    Hergesheimenlz

    Hespoke

    ofanoptim

    ismw

    hichhe

    hasbecause

    oftheinterest

    ofWertheim

    er,13Gelb,14

    andthe

    Wertheim

    ergroups

    inBerlin,

    Haile,and

    Frankfurt.Previously

    hehad

    beenfor

    along

    time

    pessimistic

    -since

    acarefulreading

    ofHeidegger,

    which

    showedhim

    howfar

    Hei-

    deggerwas

    fromhim

    .He

    laidthis

    toHeidegger

    neverhaving

    freedhim

    selfcompletely

    fromhis

    theologicalprejudices,and

    tothe

    weightofthe

    war

    onhim

    .The

    war

    andensuing

    difficultiesdrive

    men

    intom

    ysticisms.

    Thistoo

    accountsfor

    Heidegger'spopularsuccess.But[is

    not]Heideggerbyfarthe

    mostim

    portantofthe

    non-Husserlian

    philosopherstoday?

    His

    work

    bearsthe

    mark

    ofgenius.Before

    thusreading

    Heideggerhehad

    oftensaid

    toHeidegger:

    "You

    andI

    aredie

    Phiinomenoiogie".

    Atfirst,

    Husserlthoughthewas

    working

    onlyforhim

    self,andleaving

    thebig

    tasksto

    theH

    errnPkiiosopnen

    (philosophers).Then

    hesaw

    thatw

    hathehad

    atlastfoundhad

    universalvalidi-ty.

    With

    thepublication

    ofthe

    LogischeUntersnchungen

    therecam

    egreatresults.

    Studentscam

    efrom

    allover,and

    thegroup

    worked

    nightandday.

    Diltheyl

    inBerlin

    gavea

    seminar

    onthe

    LogischeU

    ninsu-chnngen

    andpublished

    asm

    allpaperinw

    hichhe

    speaksoftheir

    importance

    asepoch-m

    aking.(Pitkinl

    wasin

    Diltheyssem

    inar,became

    interested,and

    came

    toG

    ottingen,wherehe

    receivedperm

    issionto

    translatethe

    LogisekeUntersucfinngen.

    Laterthe

    prospectivepublisher

    was

    EAldous

    LeonardH

    uxley(1894-1963),

    British

    author..l"59P11

    Hergesheimer(1830-1954),

    USauthor,

    novelist.1"

    Max

    Wertheim

    er(1880-1943),

    Germ

    anpsychologist,

    togetherw

    ithK.

    Koffka

    3113W

    .Kohler

    oneof

    thefounders

    ofG

    estaltpsychology.

    15ddhm

    arG

    elb(188?-1936),

    Germ

    anpsychologist.

    H_

    Willhelnz

    Dilthey

    (r833-rgr1}G

    erman

    philosopher,chief

    representativeof

    theh15tF1C1!~\t"trend

    inphilosophy,

    which

    was

    criticizedby

    Husserlin

    Philosophie

    alsstrange

    Wissenschaft".

    1W

    alterBroughton

    Firkin(1878-1949),

    USphilosopher.

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    ON

    VE

    RS

    AT

    ION

    S

    advisedby

    William

    James"

    notto

    publish.Husserlthinks

    thatJam

    essaw

    onlythe

    Proegomemz,13and

    thatitsanti-Psychoogz's-

    mus

    wasvery

    unsympatisck

    (unattractive)to

    James.)

    Thegreatresultm

    adeHusserloptim

    isticbuthe

    soonsaw

    thatthe

    groupdid

    notprogressw

    ithhim

    .Alreadywhen

    hefirstread

    onthe

    phenomenologicalreduction,

    many

    didnot

    come

    along.A

    fterthepublication

    oftheIdem

    ,Reinachlgand,follow

    inghim

    ,others,broke

    awayfrom

    thenew

    developments.

    Iam

    togo

    tohim

    at11:30

    Monday

    with

    definitequestions.

    He

    statedin

    thisconnection

    thatthereare

    many

    difficultiesw

    iththe

    phenomenologicalreduction,

    difficultieshe

    hadnot

    seenat

    thetim

    eofthe

    Idem.

    Headvised

    readingthe

    youngEnglish

    andAm

    ericanauthors

    togetin

    touchw

    iththe

    culturalsituationthere,spoken

    ofabove.Frau

    Husserlseemsdoubtfulofthe

    advisabilityofdevoting

    som

    uchtim

    eto

    therevision

    oftheG

    erman

    Mdz'ta.-ionsCartsiennes.

    Thisa

    proposofm

    ysaying

    Ifound

    theFrench

    quitegood

    asshowing

    thatallphilosophy

    which

    stopsshortoftranscendental

    constitutionis

    inadequate,naive.Shesaid

    thew

    orkofrevision

    stoodin

    thew

    ayofso

    much

    otherwork.

    IrepliedthatIthought

    theFrench

    wasnotczusfiihrlick

    (complete,detailed)

    enough,be-cause

    peoplewere

    inthe

    habitofreading

    fastand

    would

    over-look

    therealsense

    ofthecom

    pressedsentences.Husserlsaid

    theM

    ditationsCanfsiemzesm

    ustberead

    likea

    mathem

    aticalwork.

    Hespoke

    ofphenomenologicalw

    orkas

    evenstricter

    thanm

    athe-m

    aticalwork.

    Itold

    himof

    Whitehead's2'3

    time-analysis,

    howw

    ithallits

    similarity

    toHusser1s,it

    failedto

    distinguishbetween

    objectiveand

    innertim

    e,anddid

    notseethe

    constitutionalproblem.

    Husserlsaidthatthe

    theorythatwas

    tocom

    eto

    correctviewshere

    hadto

    come

    tothe

    problemfrom

    psychology,andthrough

    Brentanozl.Hespoke

    ofStout

    asone

    who,beinginfluenced

    byBrentano,m

    ighthavedone

    so,butdid

    not.

    '7W

    illiamJam

    es{1842~rgro],

    Am

    ericanpsychologist

    andphilosopher.

    1"P

    rolegoruenazur

    reinenLogik"

    (Prolegom

    enato

    purelogic")

    isthe

    titleof

    thefirst

    volume

    ofH

    usser]'sLogis.-sire

    Lintersu-chungen.W

    Adolf

    Reinach

    (rS831gr;'),

    Germ

    anphilosopher

    oflaw

    ,phenom

    enologist.2"

    Alfred

    North

    Whitehead

    (r36r1g.1.7),B

    ritishphilosopherand

    mathem

    atician.21

    FranzBrentano

    (r8381gr7),1-Iusserls

    teacherinVienna,exerted

    agreatinflu-

    enceupen

    Husserland

    inspiredhis

    theoryof

    iutentionality.*2

    George

    FrederickS

    tout(1860-1944),

    British

    psychologistand

    philosopher.

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    HH

    US

    SE

    RL

    AN

    DF

    INK

    II

    Hesaid

    nothinggave

    theevidence

    ofphenomenology

    likeac-

    tualwork

    ona

    specialproblem.H

    isprize

    Schrift23saved

    Fink,because

    itsethim

    tow

    orkintensively

    onthe

    problemof

    Neutralittsm

    odifztation(neutrality

    modification).

    Becoming

    historicallyconscious

    ofitstradition

    isnotadequate

    tothe

    salvationofpresent-day

    culture,because

    inhistory

    thattradition

    isnotitselfconscious

    ofitsown

    meaning.

    He

    spokeofhis

    owninclination,always

    toinquire

    wherethings

    werem

    ostdistressingand

    uncertain,asimportantin

    determining

    thenature

    ofhisdiscoveries.

    IX

    Conversationw

    ithF-ink,

    I7/8/31

    Ibeganby

    askinghim

    whatHusserlhad

    meantatthe

    endofm

    ylastvisitwhen

    hesuggested

    thatI

    askhim

    questionsconcerning

    thephenom

    enologicalreduction,and

    headded

    thathe

    hadbe-

    come

    awaresince

    thepublication

    oftheIdem

    ofmany

    difficultiesin

    thereduction.

    Tow

    hichFink:

    Thephenom

    enologicalreductionis

    nolongerregarded

    byHus-

    serlasm

    erelya

    stepw

    hichfrees

    thetranscendentalfield

    forin-

    vestigation.Its

    significanceas

    making

    possiblea

    naivesort

    ofact-analysis,such

    asonehas

    inthe

    Idem,rem

    ains;butphenome-

    nologicalinvestigationcannot,afterthe

    phenomenologicalreduc-

    tion,proceed

    asifina

    homogeneous

    field,but

    must

    continuailyexercise

    furtherreductionssuch

    asthoseinvolved

    inthe

    problems

    ofgenesis.

    Thephenom

    enologicalfieldis

    notthere

    atall,

    butm

    ustfirstbe

    created.Thus

    thephenom

    enologicalreductionis

    creative,butofsom

    ethingw

    hichbears

    anecessary

    relationto

    thatwhich

    isthere.

    Thephenom

    enologicalreductionhas

    frequently,even

    atfirstby

    Husserlhim

    self,been

    confusedw

    ithcertain

    epochsw

    hichm

    aybe

    exercisedin

    thenatural

    attitude.An

    example

    which

    Husserlearlierusedto

    illustratethe

    phenomenologicalreduction

    HV-"8-lgenwzirtigursg

    andB

    d(see

    note5,

    p.2),

    which

    receiveda

    prizein

    anacadem

    iccontest

    in1929,

    beforebeing

    submitted

    andaccepted

    asa

    doctoraldisser-

    tation.

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    ON

    VE

    RS

    AT

    ION

    S

    butwhich

    henow

    usesto

    illustratea

    differentialcharacterofanepoch

    inthe

    naturalattitude,is

    asfollow

    s:Tw

    opersons

    havinga

    differenceofopinion

    agreeto

    sus;:endjudgm

    entuntilthey

    canappealto

    thefacts.

    Eachhoweverre-

    tainshis

    ownopinion,notonly

    asacontent,butalsoasanopinion,

    he"suspendsjudgm

    ent"onlyin

    thesense

    thatheno

    longermakes

    useofhis

    opinion,pendingverification.This

    epochis

    notpheno-m

    enologicalrcduction,sincethe

    real(world-)background

    oftheopinion

    remains

    positedby

    thepersons

    inour

    illustration.The

    epochconcerns

    adetailof

    thenaturalw

    orld,whereas

    thephe-

    nomenologicalepoch

    concernsthe

    entiretyofexistence.

    Butitis

    importantto

    seethatthe

    phenomenologicalreduction

    doesnotinvolve

    asuspension

    ofthetic

    activity.This

    characte-ristic

    ithas

    incom

    mon

    with

    theabove-described

    "suspension"of

    judgment.The

    naivesetting

    ofthew

    orldstillgoes

    on.Theepoch

    isone

    exercisedby

    theego,notas

    directlylie-ivig

    itsintentionall-

    ties,butas

    reflectingon

    them.

    Asphenom

    enologicallyreecting

    uponitselfand

    itsacts,the

    egodoes

    notparticipatein

    thedoxic

    elementinvolved

    inits

    acts.Thus

    onehas

    adoubling

    ofthe

    egoin

    thephenom

    enologicalattitude:

    thesim

    ple,believing

    egois

    distinguishedfrom

    thereflective

    egow

    hichexercises

    thephenom

    enologicalepoch.Still

    thetw

    oegos

    areessentially

    identical,and

    thisdistinction

    within

    theego

    becomes

    aphenom

    enologicalproblem.

    Anecessary

    stepin

    itselucidation

    isthe

    analysisofthe

    doublingofthe

    egothattakes

    placewhen,in

    thenaturalattitude,one

    reflectson

    andexercises

    epochconcerning

    anact.

    Inthis

    caseit

    isthe

    psychicego

    which

    reflects,since

    itcontinues

    toexecute

    thethesis

    ofthew

    orldin

    general,andcontinues

    toregard

    itselfasin

    thew

    orld.The

    considerationthat

    thephenom

    enologicalreductiondoes

    notinhibitthenaive

    thesiskeeps

    usfrom

    erroneouslysupposing

    thatanalyses

    inthe

    phenomenologicalattitude

    areanalyses

    ofpseudo-actsand

    apseudo-world.Itshouldm

    akeiteasierto

    under-stand

    what

    thephenom

    enologicalreduction

    isw

    ithrespect

    tonon-doxic

    acts,such

    asdecisions.

    Insuch

    casesit

    would

    seemthat

    anydirectepoch

    would

    inhibitallthere

    wasofthe

    act,orchange

    itessentially.

    Anepoch

    inreflection,

    however,lets

    theactproceed

    asitnaturallydoes.

    Having

    oncecarried

    outthephenom

    enologicalreduction,one

    WIT

    HH

    US

    SE

    RL

    AN

    DF

    INK

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    comes

    uponacts

    which

    canbe

    describedw

    ithrespect

    totheir

    noeticand

    theirnoematic

    aspects(asin

    theIdem

    ),butwhich

    bearw

    ithinthem

    selvesindications

    thatthey

    havebeen

    established(gestiftet)

    historicallyorgenetically.

    Thisgenetic

    establish-m

    entisnot

    tobe

    confusedw

    iththe

    phenomenon

    offounding(Fundierm

    ig)such

    asis

    exemplified

    inthe

    erectingofa

    valuingon

    thebasis

    ofaperceiving.The

    latter(founding)is

    nothistoricalin

    thew

    aythat

    establishingis:

    i.e.,it

    doesnot,

    likethe

    latter,involve

    aiiabitiis.

    Theperceiving

    ofatree,

    forexam

    ple,refers

    back"to

    previousperceptions

    oftrees,to

    theestablism

    entofa

    liabiiusw

    hichdeterm

    inesthat

    onesees

    certainthings

    astrees.

    Thisapplies

    toevery

    sortofobjectivation.Thus

    onehas

    thefurther

    phenomenologicaltask

    ofexercisingan

    epochconcerning

    theeffect

    (Leislimg)

    ofthehabitus

    andde-

    scribingthe

    structurew

    hichbears

    evidenceofits

    genesis.One

    hasthen

    theproblem

    ofw

    hetheror

    notevery

    habitatsnecessarily

    refersback

    toan

    eventwhich

    isits

    originalestablishing

    (Urstif-

    timg).This

    problemleads

    naturallyto

    thetranscendentalproblem

    ofchildhood.Theapproach

    tothis

    problemis

    bythe

    way

    ofin-vestigating

    thew

    ayin

    which

    my

    childhoodis

    givenm

    e.I

    findthat,although

    formally

    my

    pastextendsw

    ithoutend,itbecom

    esquite

    empty

    beyonda

    certainextent.

    Knowledge

    oftheearlier

    periodsof

    my

    life-in-the-world

    isnecessarily

    obtainedfrom

    society,either

    frompersons

    who

    remem

    berm

    ychildhood,

    orfrom

    observationofothers

    whoare

    nowchildren.As

    thebeing

    ofotherpersons

    form

    eis

    agenetically

    developedaffair

    involving,am

    ongother

    things,the

    previousapperception

    ofmyselfin

    the"w

    orld-as-miue,*

    avery

    complicated

    processis

    involvedin

    theoriginal

    awarenessofm

    ychildhood.

    Thesam

    ew

    ouldbe

    trueaboutbirth

    anddeath.These

    seemto

    involvethe

    egoas

    psyche,onone

    level,andon

    anothertoinvolve

    theego

    asbearer

    ofhabit-us.To

    aquestion,Fink

    repliedthat

    Heideggerhadnotw

    orkedon

    Husserlinthis

    matter,butvice

    versa.Everything

    which

    Heideg-

    *See

    theM

    edimtiom

    in

    M

    44:P.124

    ff.

  • 14convnnsarrons

    gertakes

    overfrom

    Husserlloses

    them

    ethodologicalsense

    whichithas

    forHusserl.W

    rhenspeaking

    ofthe

    problemofcontinually

    layingbare

    thetranscendentalfield,Fink

    spokeofthe

    phenomenologicalinvesti-

    gator'speculiardifficulty

    with

    languagedue

    tothe

    factthatonto-logicalpositing

    istaken

    upinto

    thevery

    essenceofthe

    terms

    ofeveryday

    life,sothatevery

    descriptioninvolves

    verbalhypostati-zation.

    Thisdifficulty

    isadded

    tothe

    difficultyofa

    ttingde-

    scriptionof

    phenomena,

    adifficulty

    present,however,

    inthe

    essenceofevery

    naturaldescription.The

    activityofthe

    egois

    thesetting

    ofbeing.In

    self-aware-ness

    itsets

    itsown

    being.Suchpositing

    isinvolved

    inthe

    senseofevery

    act.Phenom

    enologyis

    thecom

    ingto

    self-awarenessof

    theego

    overitsown

    activities.Assuch,

    [itis]

    aninfinite

    task.The

    termG

    odis

    usedoccasionally

    byHusserlin

    privateconver-

    sationto

    mean

    thecom

    munity

    oftranscendentalegosw

    hich"cre-

    ates"a

    world,but

    thisis

    forHusserla

    "privateopinion.

    Phenomenology

    hasonly

    comparatively

    latelycom

    eto

    aware-ness

    ofitsown

    goalorprogram

    .To

    saythat

    Husserlhasbeen

    guidedby

    theidealofscience

    andthen

    toassum

    ethatcriticism

    ofthegoalofthe

    factualsciencesis

    likewisecriticism

    ofthegoal

    ofphenomenology

    isthe

    resultofmisunderstanding

    thesense

    inw

    hichthe

    goalofscienceis

    thegoalofphenom

    enology.Thegoal

    ofscience

    becomes

    greatlytransform

    edand

    itssignificance

    deepened,it

    isbut

    actne

    tothe

    goalofphenomenology,

    tothe

    goaloftruescience

    itself,which

    isphenom

    enology.I

    askeda

    questionabout

    thefields

    ofsensationand

    thetype

    ofunityw

    hichthey

    have,remarking

    thatitm

    ightbeinteresting

    toanalyse

    thekey

    tow

    hichdata

    arespatially

    outsideeach

    otherand

    come

    tom

    otivatethe

    correspondingqualities

    ofseenobjective

    aspects,whereas

    thereis

    adifferentstructure

    for,e.g.,auralsense-fields.

    He

    tookoccasion

    toindicate

    firstthatthesensory

    fieldsappear

    onlywhen

    westop

    shortof

    them

    otivatedapprehension

    ofthe

    correspondingobjective

    sensoryaspects,andthatthis

    stoppingshortwas

    difficult.N

    ext,that

    theanalysis

    hadto

    takeplace

    asstatic

    analysisofthe

    totalperceptualphenomenon.W

    eoughtto

    bevery

    carefulabout

    speculationsas

    to,e.g.,

    theconceiva-

    bilityofa

    consciousstream

    inw

    hichthere

    wasno

    motivation

    for

    WIT

    HH

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    SE

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    DF

    INK

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    theapprehension

    ofidentitieseither

    imm

    anentor

    transcendent(although

    Husserlspeaksin

    theldeen

    ofapossibility

    ofsucha

    breakdown

    oftheelem

    entsin

    thestream

    thattherew

    ouldbe

    nom

    orew

    orldforn1e25).

    Theontologicalstatus

    ofanego

    which

    didnot

    expressitself

    psychophysicallyforothers

    anddid

    notapperceiveitselfpsycho-

    physicallyw

    ouldbe

    ariddle.Onem

    ayw

    elldoubtthatsuchques-

    tionshavc

    alegitim

    atem

    eaningwhen

    askedaboutthe

    transcen-dentalego.

    Sensefields

    are,ingeneral,connected

    with

    kinaestheticfields,

    which

    latter,by

    apperception,arein

    thew

    orld".Fink

    himselfintends

    toturn

    nexttothe

    problemofthe

    appre-hension

    oftotalities,such

    asthe

    wholeofnature,

    thewhole

    oftim

    e,andthe

    wholeofrealspacc*.

    Thisproblem

    isin

    closeconnection

    with

    theKantian

    problemofthe

    solutionofthe

    antinomy

    ofpurereason.

    Kant'ssolution

    ischaracterized

    byFink

    asnegative.

    Spaceis

    neitherfinite

    norinfinite.In

    Husserlonefinds

    atendency

    toexplicate

    theawareness

    ofinfinite

    spaceas

    anawareness

    ofthe

    infiniteiterability

    ofthe

    extensionof

    onesown

    environment

    everfurther.

    Finkdoubts

    thatinfinitespace

    forusis

    obtainedby

    sucha

    process.Itmust

    bealready

    therefor

    theprocess

    ofendlessextension

    ofmy

    near-space

    totake

    placein.

    Herem

    arkedon

    theregrettable

    factthatsuch

    matters

    asthe

    deepernatureofthe

    phenomenologicalreduction

    arenotin

    finalform

    anywherein

    Husserlsm

    anuscripts.Forthe

    mostpartFink

    haslearned

    oftheselaterdevelopm

    entsonly

    inconversations.It

    doesnotseem

    likelythat

    Husserlhimselfcan

    stillhavetim

    eto

    write

    anauthoritative

    developmentofthem

    .The

    secondpart

    ofthe

    Ideen,w

    hichcontains

    analysesofthe

    development

    oftheego

    throughthe

    acquisitionofhabitus,

    andthe

    thirdpart,although

    both[are]in

    finished(P)m

    anuscriptform,

    arenotdestined

    forpublication.

    Thetim

    electures

    thatareto

    appearinthe

    nextvolume

    oftheL

    ThisProblem

    seemsopportune

    becauseof

    thestress

    Heideggerputs

    uponthe

    awarenessof

    wholes.

    25cf

    lags

    I14~

    9:

    I14

    f-

  • 16convnnsarrons

    jahrlmck

    arefrom

    theyears

    1915-1919and,

    insteadofdealing

    chieflyw

    ithacts

    ofmem

    ory,anticipation,

    andthe

    like,as

    dothe

    alreadypublished

    analyses

    developfurther

    theanalysis

    ofthe

    passiveassociation

    which

    forms

    thestream

    .In

    thevolum

    efor

    thefollow

    ingyear

    areto

    appearseparate

    investigationsconnected

    with

    problems

    outlinedin

    theM

    edita-tion-en.The

    greatpointofgettingthe

    Meditationen

    outbeforehandis

    toprovide

    afram

    ework

    fororienting

    theseparate

    investi-gations.

    Thedifficulty

    ofseeingthe

    placeofthe

    earliertime-lectures

    inthe

    wholesystem

    isthe

    chiefsourceofHusserls

    dissatisfactionw

    iththeir

    publicationat

    thetim

    ew

    ithHeideggers

    insufficientintroduction.

    X

    Conuersat-ion-with

    HusserlandFink,17/8/31

    After

    talkingtogether,

    Finkand

    Icalled

    forHusserl,

    whoex-

    pressedapprovalwhen

    toldwe

    hadbeen

    talkingaboutthe

    deepen-ing

    ofthe

    understandingof

    thephenom

    enologicalreduction*.

    Finksupplied

    theinform

    ationthat

    wehad

    goneout

    fromthe

    problemofthe

    reductionofnon-doxic

    acts,suchas

    decisions.A

    decision,saidHusserl,is

    oneofm

    anyvolitionalm

    odi.Thereis

    avolitional"doubt",

    andthere

    aredegrees

    ofvolitional"cer-tainty.A

    llsuchm

    odiareclosely

    connectedw

    iththe

    doxicm

    odi.I

    donotrem

    emberhow

    hew

    entonfrom

    thispoint.

    Thecon-

    versationturned

    tothe

    natureofhabitus,and

    tothe

    natureofan

    originallyestablishing

    act.Husserllooked

    foran

    example.

    At

    firsthetook

    amountain,butrejected

    itbecauseitwasa

    particularobject,and

    hencenotagood

    instanceofw

    hathew

    antedto

    show.Instead

    hesaid,suppose

    Iseean

    albatrossfor

    thefirsttim

    eand

    learnthe

    natureofthe

    birdfor

    thefirst

    time

    asalbatross.

    Everafter

    Isee

    albatrosseswhen

    Icom

    eupon

    suchindividuals.

    Againthe

    threadof

    theconversation

    escapesm

    ym

    emory.

    *Insightinto

    thenature

    ofphenomenology,constitution,fills

    usw

    ithwonder,yet

    notvulgar

    wonder,

    sincewe

    haveinsight.

    Thephenom

    enologicalproblem

    spresent

    themselves

    asriddles,

    butitis

    theessence

    of:1

    riddleto

    havethe

    clueto

    itsansw

    erin

    itself.l\'o

    impossible

    riddles.

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    Husserlcameto

    theanalysis

    oftheinner

    time-consciousness.I

    raisedthe

    doubtwhetherthe

    now-pointas

    pointwasperceivable,

    whetherit

    wasnot

    anideallim

    itofthe

    narrowing

    downofthe

    speciouspresent,something

    indicated(angedeutet)by

    thespecious

    present,butnotstrictly

    perceived.In

    thissphere,said

    Husserl,thereis

    nothinglike

    anideal.True,

    toevery

    experiencedcontinuity

    am

    athematicalcontinuity

    canbe

    fitted,but

    thisprocess

    ofmathem

    atization,oflogicizing,is

    asecondary

    one.Itislikewise

    notsimple.He

    returnedto

    theanaly-

    sisofthe

    time-consciousness,and

    developedits

    characteristicof

    beingm

    orethan

    am

    ereboundary

    betweenpastand

    future,sinceout

    ofitthe

    pastspringsand

    init

    thefuture

    isactualized.

    Itis

    interestingthat

    inthe

    latterprocess

    something

    likehabitats

    playsarole:the

    futureisrealized

    accordingto

    apatterndeterm

    in-ed

    bythe

    past.H

    ethen

    proceededto

    developthe

    ideaoflogicizing,

    firstas

    aprocess

    appliedto

    theobjects

    ofthe

    outsidew

    orld.One

    must

    theredistinguish

    two

    forms,

    oneofw

    hichneverleads

    tom

    athe-m

    atization,butremains

    descriptiveoftypes

    (genusand

    species).The

    otherform

    oflogicizinginvolves

    theapplication

    ofmathe-

    matical

    formulations

    true

    toa

    certainnum

    berof

    decimal

    places".Inthe

    first,quantityhas

    aplace;butitis

    thequantity

    with

    which

    wedealin

    everydaylife,

    XI

    Conversationw

    ithHusserl,Fink,

    andM

    iyake(japan),

    I9/8/31

    Bliyakeasstarted

    readinga

    paperon

    Die

    Intersnbfektinitatanddie

    Konstitutiontter

    objective-nW

    elt97.The

    paperbegan

    with

    aresum

    eofthe

    accountinthe

    Med-itationen

    oftheprim

    ordialsphereofthe

    ego23.Concerningthis

    heattem

    ptedto

    developthe

    thingfuffhfif,

    sayingquite

    incorrectly"In

    tierprirnordialenSphere

    gibtes

    keinenkom

    ogenenRanrn,sondern

    tierprimordiate

    Ranmistein

    2,-.

    ..

    Iburg

    Gm

    chlMlyk

    (born1895),

    Japanesephilosopher,

    astudentof

    Husserl

    atFrei-

    2?1-

    -.

    ._

    ,_

    _:8

    Clntersnbjeetivity

    theconstitution

    ofthe

    objectivew

    orld".arteswam

    sclieM

    edztatwncn,

    44-47,

    pp_;;>4_135_

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    speziffsckzenfrierterRcmm

    29.Incorrectly,sincethe

    motivation

    tothe

    constitutionofa

    homogeneous

    spacelies

    alreadyin

    theprim

    ordialsphere.Finkjum

    pedon

    thispointim

    mediately.

    Hus-

    serltookthe

    occasionfor

    generalconsiderationson

    phenomeno-

    logicalmethod,

    asthe

    constitution-problems

    ingeneral,and

    inparticular

    theconstitution

    ofhomogeneous

    space.[W

    em

    ust]startalwaysw

    iththe

    givenw

    orldand

    proceedby

    them

    ethodofLeitfdden

    (clues)to

    disclosethe

    variouslevels

    ofcon-stitution.

    (Alreadywe

    havem

    adeabstraction

    fromthe

    Unstim

    -m

    igkeiten(discordancies,inconsistencies)ofexperience.B

    utU

    n-sttm

    migkeiten

    areauffallend

    (conspicuous,striking),and

    unlessthey

    areto

    beseen,allm

    aybe

    saidto

    flowon

    inEinstim

    mgkeit

    (harmony,accord).)

    Thisis

    thesense

    oftheAbbas

    (unbuilding)ofthe

    physicalworld,m

    isunderstoodby

    Heidegger.[A]

    chargeofabstractness

    [was]m

    adeagainsttranscendental

    phenomenology,

    [with

    the]replythatopponents

    don'tknoww

    hatrealconcrete

    method

    is.W

    eare

    reallyconcrete

    sincewe

    alwaysare

    butreadingoffw

    hatisinthe

    fullpresentedphenom

    enon.The

    pointsin

    theobjective

    time

    ofthe

    primordialsphere

    correspondone

    toone

    with

    thepoints

    oftime

    oftheim

    manent

    flowofErlebm

    sse(m

    entalprocessesoroccurrences).

    Motion

    isfounded

    onrest.

    Eachpoint

    ofmovem

    entis

    essen-tially

    apointofpossible

    rest.Kinaesthetic

    systems[are

    regarded]asnecessarytothe

    foundingofrestand

    motion.

    KinaestheticRube

    (rest)is

    Still-bieiben(standing-still).

    B25Still-bleibentierKinaesthesz's3

    providedIam

    unmoved

    byother

    bodies(I

    asordered

    inthe

    sphereofphysicalcausality

    bythe

    possibilitythereof)

    otherobjectsconstitute

    themselves

    asat

    restina

    synthesisofunvaried

    aspects.A

    certaingiven

    changeofaspectsm

    ayconstitutem

    ovingobjects

    orm

    yown

    movem

    entin"w

    orld"

    orboth

    according

    tothe

    accompanying

    kinaesthesia.(In

    earlyw

    orkbefore

    LogischeU-ntersucim

    ngenHusserlconfused

    Erlebms

    (mentalprocess)and

    Aspekt-Erscheinung(appearance

    of

    *9There

    isin

    thepriornordialsphere

    nohom

    ogeneousspace,butratherprim

    ordialspace

    isa

    specificallycentered

    space.5

    While

    thekinaesthesia

    isata

    standstill."

    WIT

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    anaspect),whereas

    itisthe

    casethatEinstim

    migkeit(harm

    ony,accord)ofonesortconstitutes

    Aspekte

    (aspects),andEi-nstim

    mg-

    ken!ofaspects,objects.His

    errorsand

    oscillationswere

    dueto

    acom

    plicatedproblem

    ,nottosom

    efortuitous

    stupidity.N

    othing'sfortuitous.)

    Thesynthetic

    systemofpossible

    pointsofrest,

    asalloutside

    ofeachotherand

    correlatedw

    iththe

    varioussynthetic

    systems,

    foundsthe

    orientedspace.

    My

    bodyis

    thenull-oriented

    object.When

    anobjectis

    attachedto

    my

    body(as

    whenIcarry

    it,orit

    me)itm

    aintainsw

    ithm

    ea

    nullorientationas

    Im

    ayperam

    bulatespace.Sim

    ilarly,parts

    ofm

    ybody

    may

    takeon

    perspectivewhen

    cutoff.(Problemoflosing

    thew

    holebody

    bitbybituntilallisgone.)Then

    [thereis]no

    basisfor

    apsychophysical

    apperceptionof

    thesensation

    and

    kin-aesthetic

    systems

    asGrenzf-all(borderline

    case).Assimilating

    anobjectto

    my

    body(giving

    same

    nullorientation),moving

    with

    itetc.,asallprocesses

    foundedin

    certainkinaesthetic

    syntheses.Perception

    isa

    bodilyactivity,

    involvingkinaesthesis.

    Problemofphantasying

    myselfin

    anotherplace[is]quite

    diffi-cult,butits

    solution[is]an

    importantstep

    inm

    akingunderstand-

    ablethatanalogizing

    associationw

    hichm

    akesintelligible

    theex-

    perienceofother

    minds.

    Associationis

    bylikeness.

    Ihere,

    andanotherbody

    there,isnotsufficientunless

    Ihavephantasied

    my-

    selfasthere.B

    utsuchphantasy

    may

    beitselfbased

    onexperience

    ofothers,itw

    illbeobjected.Such

    would

    seemcertainly

    tobe

    thecase

    whenone

    seesa

    mirrored

    reflectionas

    ofoneself.Thesequestions

    indi-cate

    [the]difficultyofproblem

    shere.

    After

    onehas

    analyzedthe

    constitutionof

    theother

    mind

    ingeneral

    onem

    ayproceed

    toconsider

    thehigher,

    founded,structures

    ofintersubjectivityand

    thevarious

    forms

    ofsocialre-lation

    -m

    arriage,family,etc.in

    Wese-asallgerrie-miaeit(eidetic

    uni-versality);then

    theproblem

    sofabnorm

    alities,ofnon-human

    sub-jects,blind,

    deaf,idiots,etc.,

    andthe

    problems

    ofage-rm

    inelife

    underethicallaws.Each

    problemin

    itsplace.

    Birth

    anddeath

    weknow

    onlyon

    thebasis

    ofintersubjectivity.D

    eathappears

    asa

    pausein

    otherlife.In

    thisit

    isanalogous

    toSleellButsleep

    appearsin

    theprirnordialsphere,too,

    likewise

    R511pause

    andits

    analysisis

    verydifficult.

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    CO

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    SA

    TIO

    NS

    Finktells

    me

    them

    anuscriptI

    hadofthe

    Mditations

    Cami-

    siennesis

    anexact

    duplicateofthe

    onefrom

    which

    theFrench

    wasdone.Ifso

    thetranslators

    areguilty

    oferrorsand

    omissions,

    asIhave

    indicatedin

    my

    copyatthe

    beginningofthe

    5thM

    edi-ration.

    XII

    Conversationw

    ithHusserland

    Fink,22/8/31

    IhadsentHusserlon

    theprevious

    daya

    listofthew

    orstomissions

    anderrors

    Ihadfound

    inthe

    earlypartofthe

    Frenchtranslation

    oftheFifth

    fldeditation.So

    thatsthe

    way

    thetw

    otranslations

    are,hesaid

    ineffect.They

    willbe

    hindrancesratherthan

    helpsto

    anunderstanding

    inEngland

    andFrance.

    Hethen

    passedon

    tospeaking

    ofwhat

    hehad

    recentlybeen

    doing.Them

    orninghe

    hadspentin

    puttinghis

    recentmanuscripts

    inorder.H

    egets

    intoan

    Arbeitsfieber(w

    ork

    fever)anddoes

    noteven

    numberhis

    pagesso

    thatafterwards

    hehas

    ajob

    straight-ening

    themout.

    Recently

    hehas

    beenw

    orkingon

    aproblem

    which

    hedeveloped

    asfollows.

    Startingfrom

    thefully

    concretesituation

    onecom

    esthrough

    abbauendeA

    nalytik(unbuiiding

    analyses)and

    thenthe

    oppositelydirected

    syntheticorconstitutionalw

    orkto

    distinguishseveralSckichten

    (strata)inthe

    structureofthe

    concretephenom

    e-non.Assum

    ing,for

    example,

    thatwe

    havecom

    e

    alwaysfrom

    theconcrete!

    to

    considerthe

    fieldsof

    sensationas

    lowestlevels

    ofconstitutionofobjects,we

    may

    isolate,say,thefield

    ofvision

    asa

    syntheticunity

    throughassociation.W

    em

    ayfurther

    abstractfrom

    allsystems

    ofkinaesthesissave

    thesystem

    be-longing

    (inapperception)

    to".4ugenbewegung

    (eye-movem

    ents).W

    em

    aythen

    observehow,otherkinaesthetic

    systems

    beingheld

    still,thereconstitute

    themselves

    unitiesw

    ithinthe

    fieldofvision,

    correlatedw

    iththe

    eye-kinaesthesia.Ingeneralthereisconstituted

    an"A

    ugmbewegungsraum

    (spaceofeye-m

    ovements).Then

    thereconstitute

    themselves

    identicalplanesurfaces

    within

    thatspace

    identical,howeverthe

    eye-kinaesthesism

    aytake

    place.In

    thesim

    plestcase

    wehave

    theconstitution

    ofa

    stationarysurface,

    buttherecan

    alsobe

    constitutedidenticalsurfaces

    asmoving,as

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    changingtheirshapes

    andcolors.W

    ithinthis

    simple

    spacethere

    may

    evenbe

    constitutedsom

    ethinglike

    causalrelations.W

    lien,now,other

    kinaestheticsystem

    s,instead

    ofremaining

    still,are

    broughtintoplay,

    theseidenticalplane

    "objects"m

    ayshow

    themselves

    tobe

    aspectsofthree-dim

    ensionalobjects.Thisis

    mostobviously

    thecase

    whenthe

    kinaestheticsystem

    sofloco-

    motion

    arebroughtinto

    play.Then

    again,w

    ithreference

    tointersubjectivity

    theseprivate

    3dim

    ensionalspace-objectsbecom

    easpects

    ofintersubjective3

    dimensionalspace-objects.Forsim

    plicityssake

    assuredly,Hus-

    serlomitted

    thesyntheses

    oftheseveral

    objectsof

    theseveral

    fieldsofsensation

    tothe

    constitutionofone

    object.Now

    theanalysis

    upto

    herehas

    beencarried

    through(roughly)

    forthe

    constitutionof

    thepresent.

    Butthe

    privatepresent

    isextended

    bythe

    inclusionofthe

    privatepastand

    future,tow

    hichwe

    haveZugangsweisen

    (ways

    ofaccess)in

    theform

    sof

    recol-lection

    andanticipation.

    Objects

    constitutethem

    selvesas

    goingbeyond

    thepresent,m

    ayeven

    constitutethem

    selvesasgoing

    be-yond

    thereach

    ofindividualrecollection.For

    acertain

    stretchback

    my

    pastaccompanies

    thepastofm

    yobjects,butnotallthe

    way.In

    intersubjectivityI

    findthat

    thereis

    acorresponding

    ex-tension

    intopastand

    future,notonlythrough

    theinclusion

    ofthepastand

    futureLeistungen

    (productions,products)ofthepresent

    mem

    bersoftheintersubjective

    society,andthe

    correlatedobjects-

    alsoobjects

    oftheirmem

    oriesand

    anticipations,butthroughthe

    Le-isttmgen

    ofpastandfuture

    mem

    bersofthe

    same

    intersubjectivegroup.

    Thew

    orldas

    itgives

    itselfon

    thisintersubjective

    levelbearscharacteristics

    dueto

    theLeistunge

    ofthe"cultural"group

    backthrough

    theages.

    Thereare

    two

    waysin

    which

    suchan

    intersubjectivitycan

    widenitself.

    First,through

    coming

    incontact

    with

    anotherhis-

    toricalintersubjectivity,aswhen,e.g.two

    racesw

    ithno

    pastcon-nections

    (perhaps

    thoughprobably

    notexactly

    -Europe

    andChina?)

    come

    togethermaking

    acom

    mon

    intersubjectivityw

    ithtw

    oseparate

    pasts.The

    otherway

    isthrough

    theextension

    ofthepastofthe

    inter-Subjective

    world

    backbeyond

    thefurthest

    reachesofthe

    inter-subjective

    past,as

    throughthe

    studyofpalaeontology.

    Thisis

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    VE

    RS

    AT

    ION

    S

    theanalogy

    onthe

    intersubjectivelevelofthe

    extensionofthe

    privatew

    orlds-pastback

    beyondbirth

    ofthe

    individual.The

    resultisthat

    theintersubjective

    world

    itselfw

    ithits

    objectsis

    seenas

    anErscheinung

    (appearance)ofsom

    em

    orebasic

    world,

    tow

    hichwe

    have,however,some

    sortofaccess,evenexperiential

    access,throughpresentgeologicalstrata

    e.g.?There

    arisesnow

    theproblem

    whetherthis

    processofrelativi-

    zingthe

    world

    couldproceed

    further;ifso,whetherit

    couldpro-

    ceedw

    ithoutlimit.

    Iremarked

    thatIcouldnotconceive

    ofafurtherrelativization,

    andHusserlsaid

    hecould

    noteither,butthatdid11otanswerthe

    question,notshowthatit

    couldntbe

    asked.Fink

    remarked

    thatinNeo

    Kantianis1nthe

    developmentofthe

    world

    isin

    aw

    ayconsidered

    asparallelto

    thedevelopm

    entof

    reasonin

    history,butthatacloserparallel,though

    stillnaive,ofcourse,is

    tobe

    foundin

    Hegel.This

    impelled

    Husserltosay

    thatthegreatdifference

    wasthat

    inphenom

    enologyone

    hasto

    come

    tothese

    questionsfrom

    thebottom

    up,and

    isnot

    impelled

    directlyby

    anyhistoricalA

    n-regm

    ag(suggestion,incitem

    ent).Hegel,hesaid

    hehad

    neverread.He

    usedto

    give(oronce

    gave)acourse

    onK

    antandhis

    successors,but

    nevergotbeyondKant.

    Yetisit

    sothat

    thestudy

    ofthehistory

    ofphilosophyoffers

    thephenom

    enologistmany

    Am/egzmgen,once

    hehas

    progresseda

    certainway.It

    isofinterestto

    seein

    whatSchichten

    (strata)theolder

    philosophersask

    theirquestions.

    One

    findsthem

    ofchiefinterest

    preciselywhere

    theycom

    einto

    difficultiesbecause

    oftheir

    naivet.K

    ant(particularly

    wherehe

    isdealing

    with

    theE-iabzTldungs-

    kmft(im

    aginativefacu1ty))is

    working

    atproblems

    ofphenomeno-

    logicalsignificance,although

    heis

    involvedin

    a"faZsrrhe

    L0g:'f1'-z-iem

    ng(false

    logicizing)and

    isnot

    quiteclear.

    (During

    thew

    arHusserlturnedto

    Fichte'sspeeches

    andread

    with

    greatUberraschm

    zg(surprise)

    forthe

    firsttim

    e.)H

    istoryofphilosophy

    must

    beinterpreted

    fromthe

    pointof

    viewofthe

    systematic

    insightprimarily.Thatinsightitselfm

    akesas

    itwere

    a"cut

    inhistory

    ofphilosophy.

    Setseverything

    inm

    otion.The

    problemoftranscendentalconstitution,said

    Husserlin

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    effect,is,asIhave

    saidto

    Herrn

    Dr.Fink,none

    otherthanthe

    problemofhow

    God

    createdthe

    absolutew

    orld,and

    continuesto

    createit,

    evenas

    thetranscendentalintersubjectivity

    createsits

    world".

    Thephenom

    enologicalformofthe

    ontologicalargu-m

    entisthe

    conclusionfrom

    theabsolute

    constitutiveconscious-

    ness.(The

    laststage

    ofthe

    processof

    relativizationof

    objectswhich

    Husserlspokeofatthe

    outset.)Butallthese

    arelastquestions,questions

    ofsuchgreatinterest,

    thatone

    istem

    ptedto

    gointo

    metaphysics

    inan

    "Aarfsci1wung(soaring)

    a

    phraseby

    which

    Scheler31actually

    characterizedm

    etaphysics.H

    owever

    onem

    ustcreep

    beforeone

    canfly;

    onem

    ustdo

    alot

    ofdirty

    work

    (schmutzige

    Arbert)on

    theground

    beforeone

    cangetinto

    onesairplane

    andfly.

    Theearlier

    problems

    ofphenom

    enologyare

    much

    them

    ostcom

    plicated.Husserls

    dirtyw

    orkwas

    largelydone

    inthe

    LogischeU

    uter-suckrm

    genand

    thefirst

    workings

    outoftherough

    outlineofthe

    constitutionofthe

    objectivew

    orld.In

    Giittingen

    itwas

    finethe

    way

    thestudents

    discussedand

    developedtheir

    phenomenologicalproblem

    s

    albeitthey

    gota

    bittoosolidly

    settledin

    aHei-m

    welt(familiarw

    orld)oftheirown

    sothat

    theyw

    ouldlisten

    notto

    anythingw

    hichwas

    strangeto

    it,such

    asthe

    lecturesHusserlgave

    atthetim

    e.B

    y1907-8

    (P)whenhe

    came

    togive

    acertain

    seriesoflectures

    (onphenom

    enologyas

    awhole?),

    hewas

    surprisedto

    seehow

    wideand

    systematic

    aknowledge

    ofthe

    fieldhe

    hadalready

    gained.Butasitistodaysodifficultforhim

    tow

    riteazusam

    menfassende

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