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Discovering the Urantia Book, part 3

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Discovering the Urantia Book

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To All, Read and learn “Do not make the mistake of confusing evil with the evil one, more correctly the iniquitous one. He whom you call the evil one is the son of self-love, the high administrator who knowingly went into deliberate rebellion against the rule of my Father and his loyal Sons. But I have already vanquished these sinful rebels. Make clear in your mind these different attitudes toward the Father and his universe. Never forget these laws of relation to the Father’s will: (1660.2) 148:4.3 “Evil is the unconscious or unintended transgression of the divine law, the Father’s will. Evil is likewise the measure of the imperfectness of obedience to the Father’s will. (1660.3) 148:4.4 “Sin is the conscious, knowing, and deliberate transgression of the divine law, the Father’s will. Sin is the measure of unwillingness to be divinely led and spiritually directed. (1660.4) 148:4.5 “Iniquity is the willful, determined, and persistent transgression of the divine law, the Father’s will. Iniquity is the measure of the continued rejection of the Father’s loving plan of personality survival and the Sons’ merciful ministry of salvation. (1660.5) 148:4.6 “By nature, before the rebirth of the spirit, mortal man is subject to inherent evil tendencies, but such natural imperfections of behavior are neither sin nor iniquity. Mortal man is just beginning his long ascent to the perfection of the Father in Paradise. To be imperfect or partial in natural endowment is not sinful. Man is indeed subject to evil, but he is in no sense the child of the evil one unless he has knowingly and deliberately chosen the paths of sin and the life of iniquity. Evil is inherent in the natural order of this world, but sin is an attitude of conscious rebellion which was brought to this world by those who fell from spiritual light into gross darkness. (1660.6) 148:4.7 “You are confused, Thomas, by the doctrines of the Greeks and the errors of the Persians. You do not understand the relationships of evil and sin because you view mankind as beginning on earth with a perfect Adam and rapidly degenerating, through sin, to man’s present deplorable estate. But why do you refuse to comprehend the meaning of the record which discloses how Cain, the son of Adam, went over into the land of Nod and there got himself a wife? And why do you refuse to interpret the meaning of the record which portrays the sons of God finding wives for themselves among the daughters of men? (1660.7) 148:4.8 “Men are, indeed, by nature evil, but not necessarily sinful. The new birth — the baptism of the spirit — is essential to deliverance from evil and necessary for entrance into the

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kingdom of heaven, but none of this detracts from the fact that man is the son of God. Neither does this inherent presence of potential evil mean that man is in some mysterious way estranged from the Father in heaven so that, as an alien, foreigner, or stepchild, he must in some manner seek for legal adoption by the Father. All such notions are born, first, of your misunderstanding of the Father and, second, of your ignorance of the origin, nature, and destiny of man. (1660.8) 148:4.9 “The Greeks and others have taught you that man is descending from godly perfection steadily down toward oblivion or destruction; I have come to show that man, by entrance into the kingdom, is ascending certainly and surely up to God and divine perfection. Any being who in any manner falls short of the divine and spiritual ideals of the eternal Father’s will is potentially evil, but such beings are in no sense sinful, much less iniquitous. (1661.1) 148:4.10 “Thomas, have you not read about this in the Scriptures, where it is written: ‘You are the children of the Lord your God.’ ‘I will be his Father and he shall be my son.’ ‘I have chosen him to be my son — I will be his Father.’ ‘Bring my sons from far and my daughters from the ends of the earth; even every one who is called by my name, for I have created them for my glory.’ ‘You are the sons of the living God.’ ‘They who have the spirit of God are indeed the sons of God.’ While there is a material part of the human father in the natural child, there is a spiritual part of the heavenly Father in every faith son of the kingdom.” [link to www.urantia.org] the white rose

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To All, Esu Immanuel the one known as "Jesus" was not a "Jew" He was a Nazarene,He may have lived in Judea but He could not have been a "Jew"because the term was not used until the 17th century.He was however very much against the blood cult religion of the pharisees. Check this info out carefully it may clear up many misconceptions. The Religion of Jesus (2091.10) 196:2.1 Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testament is devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul’s religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal




religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian. (2091.11) 196:2.2 Jesus’ life in the flesh portrays a transcendent religious growth from the early ideas of primitive awe and human reverence up through years of personal spiritual communion until he finally arrived at that advanced and exalted status of the consciousness of his oneness with the Father. And thus, in one short life, did Jesus traverse that experience of religious spiritual progression which man begins on earth and ordinarily achieves only at the conclusion of his long sojourn in the spirit training schools of the successive levels of the pre-Paradise career. Jesus progressed from a purely human consciousness of the faith certainties of personal religious experience to the sublime spiritual heights of the positive realization of his divine nature and to the consciousness of his close association with the Universal Father in the management of a universe. He progressed from the humble status of mortal dependence which prompted him spontaneously to say to the one who called him Good Teacher, “Why do you call me good? None is good but God,” to that sublime consciousness of achieved divinity which led him to exclaim, “Which one of you convicts me of sin?” And this progressing ascent from the human to the divine was an exclusively mortal achievement. And when he had thus attained divinity, he was still the same human Jesus, the Son of Man as well as the Son of God. (2092.1) 196:2.3 Mark, Matthew, and Luke retain something of the picture of the human Jesus as he engaged in the superb struggle to ascertain the divine will and to do that will. John presents a picture of the triumphant Jesus as he walked on earth in the full consciousness of divinity. The great mistake that has been made by those who have studied the Master’s life is that some have conceived of him as entirely human, while others have thought of him as only divine. Throughout his entire experience he was truly both human and divine, even as he yet is. (2092.2) 196:2.4 But the greatest mistake was made in that, while the human Jesus was recognized as having a religion, the divine Jesus (Christ) almost overnight became a religion. Paul’s Christianity made sure of the adoration of the divine Christ, but it almost wholly lost sight of the struggling and valiant human Jesus of Galilee, who, by the valor of his personal religious faith and the heroism of his indwelling Adjuster, ascended from the lowly levels of humanity to become one with divinity, thus becoming the new and living way whereby all mortals may so ascend from humanity to divinity. Mortals in all stages of spirituality and on all worlds may find in the personal life of Jesus that which will strengthen and inspire them as they progress from the lowest spirit levels up to the highest divine values, from the beginning to the end of all personal religious experience. (2092.3) 196:2.5 At the time of the writing of the New Testament, the authors not only most profoundly believed in the divinity of the risen Christ, but they also devotedly and sincerely believed in his immediate return to earth to consummate the heavenly kingdom. This strong faith in the Lord’s immediate return had much to do with the tendency to omit from the record those references which portrayed the purely human experiences and attributes of the Master. The whole Christian movement tended away from the human picture of Jesus of Nazareth toward the exaltation of the risen Christ, the glorified and soon-returning Lord Jesus Christ. (2092.4) 196:2.6 Jesus founded the religion of personal experience in doing the will of God and serving the human brotherhood; Paul founded a religion in which the glorified Jesus became the object of worship and the brotherhood consisted of fellow believers in the divine Christ. In the bestowal of Jesus these two concepts were potential in his divine-human life, and it is indeed a pity that his followers failed to create a unified religion which might have given proper recognition to both the human and the divine natures of the Master as they were inseparably bound up in his earth life and so gloriously set forth in the original gospel of the kingdom.


(2093.1) 196:2.7 You would be neither shocked nor disturbed by some of Jesus’ strong pronouncements if you would only remember that he was the world’s most wholehearted and devoted religionist. He was a wholly consecrated mortal, unreservedly dedicated to doing his Father’s will. Many of his apparently hard sayings were more of a personal confession of faith and a pledge of devotion than commands to his followers. And it was this very singleness of purpose and unselfish devotion that enabled him to effect such extraordinary progress in the conquest of the human mind in one short life. Many of his declarations should be considered as a confession of what he demanded of himself rather than what he required of all his followers. In his devotion to the cause of the kingdom, Jesus burned all bridges behind him; he sacrificed all hindrances to the doing of his Father’s will. (2093.2) 196:2.8 Jesus blessed the poor because they were usually sincere and pious; he condemned the rich because they were usually wanton and irreligious. He would equally condemn the irreligious pauper and commend the consecrated and worshipful man of wealth. (2093.3) 196:2.9 Jesus led men to feel at home in the world; he delivered them from the slavery of taboo and taught them that the world was not fundamentally evil. He did not long to escape from his earthly life; he mastered a technique of acceptably doing the Father’s will while in the flesh. He attained an idealistic religious life in the very midst of a realistic world. Jesus did not share Paul’s pessimistic view of humankind. The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificent and eternal future for those who chose survival. He was not a moral skeptic; he viewed man positively, not negatively. He saw most men as weak rather than wicked, more distraught than depraved. But no matter what their status, they were all God’s children and his brethren. (2093.4) 196:2.10 He taught men to place a high value upon themselves in time and in eternity. Because of this high estimate which Jesus placed upon men, he was willing to spend himself in the unremitting service of humankind. And it was this infinite worth of the finite that made the golden rule a vital factor in his religion. What mortal can fail to be uplifted by the extraordinary faith Jesus has in him? (2093.5) 196:2.11 Jesus offered no rules for social advancement; his was a religious mission, and religion is an exclusively individual experience. The ultimate goal of society’s most advanced achievement can never hope to transcend Jesus’ brotherhood of men based on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The ideal of all social attainment can be realized only in the coming of this divine kingdom. the above is from the "URANTIA BOOK" the white rose


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7. The Courts of Nebadon (Candace: "heaven does indeed have COURTS, this magic being




called "God" on earth does not judge you) (372.5) 33:7.1 The Master Son, Michael, is supremely concerned with but three things: creation, sustenance, and ministry. He does not personally participate in the judicial work of the universe. Creators never sit in judgment on their creatures; that is the exclusive function of creatures of high training and actual creature experience. (372.6) 33:7.2 The entire judicial mechanism of Nebadon is under the supervision of Gabriel. The high courts, located on Salvington, are occupied with problems of general universe import and with the appellate cases coming up from the system tribunals. There are seventy branches of these universe courts, and they function in seven divisions of ten sections each. In all matters of adjudication there presides a dual magistracy consisting of one judge of perfection antecedents and one magistrate of ascendant experience. (372.7) 33:7.3 As regards jurisdiction, the local universe courts are limited in the following matters: (372.8) 33:7.4 1. The administration of the local universe is concerned with creation, evolution, maintenance, and ministry. The universe tribunals are, therefore, denied the right to pass upon those cases involving the question of eternal life and death. This has no reference to natural death as it obtains on Urantia, but if the question of the right of continued existence, life eternal, comes up for adjudication, it must be referred to the tribunals of Orvonton, and if decided adversely to the individual, all sentences of extinction are carried out upon the orders, and through the agencies, of the rulers of the supergovernment. (372.9) 33:7.5 2. The default or defection of any of the Local Universe Sons of God which jeopardizes their status and authority as Sons is never adjudicated in the tribunals of a Son; such a misunderstanding would be immediately carried to the superuniverse courts. (372.10) 33:7.6 3. The question of the readmission of any constituent part of a local universe — such as a local system — to the fellowship of full spiritual status in the local creation subsequent to spiritual isolation must be concurred in by the high assembly of the superuniverse. (373.1) 33:7.7 In all other matters the courts of Salvington are final and supreme. There is no appeal and no escape from their decisions and decrees. (373.2) 33:7.8 However unfairly human contentions may sometimes appear to be adjudicated on Urantia, in the universe justice and divine equity do prevail. You are living in a well-ordered universe, and sooner or later you may depend upon being dealt with justly, even mercifully. 8. The Legislative and Executive Functions (373.3) 33:8.1 On Salvington, the headquarters of Nebadon, there are no true legislative bodies. The universe headquarters worlds are concerned largely with adjudication. The legislative assemblies of the local universe are located on the headquarters of the one hundred constellations. The systems are chiefly concerned with the executive and administrative work of the local creations. The System Sovereigns and their associates enforce the legislative mandates of the constellation rulers and execute the judicial decrees of the high courts of the universe. (373.4) 33:8.2 While true legislation is not enacted at the universe headquarters, there do function on Salvington a variety of advisory and research assemblies, variously constituted and conducted in accordance with their scope and purpose. Some are permanent; others disband upon the


accomplishment of their objective. (373.5) 33:8.3 The supreme council of the local universe is made up of three members from each system and seven representatives from each constellation. Systems in isolation do not have representation in this assembly, but they are permitted to send observers who attend and study all its deliberations. (373.6) 33:8.4 The one hundred councils of supreme sanction are also situated on Salvington. The presidents of these councils constitute the immediate working cabinet of Gabriel. (373.7) 33:8.5 All findings of the high universe advisory councils are referred either to the Salvington judicial bodies or to the legislative assemblies of the constellations. These high councils are without authority or power to enforce their recommendations. If their advice is founded on the fundamental laws of the universe, then will the Nebadon courts issue rulings of execution; but if their recommendations have to do with local or emergency conditions, they must pass down to the legislative assemblies of the constellation for deliberative enactment and then to the system authorities for execution. These high councils are, in reality, the universe superlegislatures, but they function without the authority of enactment and without the power of execution. (373.8) 33:8.6 While we speak of universe administration in terms of “courts” and “assemblies,” it should be understood that these spiritual transactions are very different from the more primitive and material activities of Urantia which bear corresponding names. (373.9) 33:8.7 [Presented by the Chief of the Archangels of Nebadon.] Anonymous Coward User ID: 1172189


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(1216.6) 111:1.5 Mortal mind is a temporary intellect system loaned to human beings for use during a material lifetime, and as they use this mind, they are either accepting or rejecting the potential of eternal existence. Mind is about all you have of universe reality that is subject to your will, and the soul — the morontia self — will faithfully portray the harvest of the temporal decisions which the mortal self is making. Human consciousness rests gently upon the electrochemical mechanism below and delicately touches the spirit-morontia energy system above. Of neither of these two systems is the human being ever completely conscious in his mortal life; therefore must he work in mind, of which he is conscious. And it is not so much what mind comprehends as what mind desires to comprehend that insures survival; it is not so much what mind is like as what mind is striving to be like that constitutes spirit identification. It is not so much that man is conscious of God as that man yearns for God that results in universe ascension. What you are today is not so important as what you are becoming day by day and in eternity. Last Edited by Orange on 5/21/2011 6:59 AM



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1915.1) 176:2.4 “You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in the flesh, but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name. (1915.2) 176:2.5 “But the times of the reappearing of the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come to pass, the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age. (1915.3) 176:2.6 “And now concerning the travail of Jerusalem, about which I have spoken to you, even this generation will not pass away until my words are fulfilled; but concerning the times of the coming again of the Son of Man, no one in heaven or on earth may presume to speak. But you should be wise regarding the ripening of an age; you should be alert to discern the signs of the times. You know when the fig tree shows its tender branches and puts forth its leaves that summer is near. Likewise, when the world has passed through the long winter of material-mindedness and you discern the coming of the spiritual springtime of a new dispensation, should you know that the summertime of a new visitation draws near. (1915.4) 176:2.7 “But what is the significance of this teaching having to do with the coming of the Sons of God? Do you not perceive that, when each of you is called to lay down his life struggle and pass through the portal of death, you stand in the immediate presence of judgment, and that you are face to face with the facts of a new dispensation of service in the eternal plan of the infinite Father? What the whole world must face as a literal fact at the end of an age, you, as individuals, must each most certainly face as a personal experience when you reach the end of your natural life and thereby pass on to be confronted with the conditions and demands inherent in the next revelation of the eternal progression of the Father’s kingdom.”







(2091.10) 196:2.1 Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testament is devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul’s religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian. (Candace: James was the brother of Jesus, and his closest brother of the large family. James actually UNDERSTOOD Jesus. Esu has spoken several times of this closeness between to me.) (2091.11) 196:2.2 Jesus’ life in the flesh portrays a transcendent religious growth from the early ideas of primitive awe and human reverence up through years of personal spiritual communion until he finally arrived at that advanced and exalted status of the consciousness of his oneness with the Father. And thus, in one short life, did Jesus traverse that experience of religious spiritual progression which man begins on earth and ordinarily achieves only at the conclusion of his long sojourn in the spirit training schools of the successive levels of the pre-Paradise career. Jesus progressed from a purely human consciousness of the faith certainties of personal religious experience to the sublime spiritual heights of the positive realization of his divine nature and to the consciousness of his close association with the Universal Father in the management of a universe. He progressed from the humble status of mortal dependence which prompted him spontaneously to say to the one who called him Good Teacher, “Why do you call me good? None is good but God,” to that sublime consciousness of achieved divinity which led him to exclaim, “Which one of you convicts me of sin?” And this progressing ascent from the human to the divine was an exclusively mortal achievement. And when he had thus attained divinity, he was still the same human Jesus, the Son of Man as well as the Son of God. (2092.1) 196:2.3 Mark, Matthew, and Luke retain something of the picture of the human Jesus as he engaged in the superb struggle to ascertain the divine will and to do that will. John presents a picture of the triumphant Jesus as he walked on earth in the full consciousness of divinity. The great mistake that has been made by those who have studied the Master’s life is that some have conceived of him as entirely human, while others have thought of him as only divine. Throughout his entire experience he was truly both human and divine, even as he yet is. (2092.2) 196:2.4 But the greatest mistake was made in that, while the human Jesus was recognized as having a religion, the divine Jesus (Christ) almost overnight became a religion. Paul’s Christianity made sure of the adoration of the divine Christ, but it almost wholly lost sight of


the struggling and valiant human Jesus of Galilee, who, by the valor of his personal religious faith and the heroism of his indwelling Adjuster, ascended from the lowly levels of humanity to become one with divinity, thus becoming the new and living way whereby all mortals may so ascend from humanity to divinity. Mortals in all stages of spirituality and on all worlds may find in the personal life of Jesus that which will strengthen and inspire them as they progress from the lowest spirit levels up to the highest divine values, from the beginning to the end of all personal religious experience. (2092.3) 196:2.5 At the time of the writing of the New Testament, the authors not only most profoundly believed in the divinity of the risen Christ, but they also devotedly and sincerely believed in his immediate return to earth to consummate the heavenly kingdom. This strong faith in the Lord’s immediate return had much to do with the tendency to omit from the record those references which portrayed the purely human experiences and attributes of the Master. The whole Christian movement tended away from the human picture of Jesus of Nazareth toward the exaltation of the risen Christ, the glorified and soon-returning Lord Jesus Christ. ( And Jesus told them he would be back sometime around 2000 years from then!) (2092.4) 196:2.6 Jesus founded the religion of personal experience in doing the will of God and serving the human brotherhood; Paul founded a religion in which the glorified Jesus became the object of worship and the brotherhood consisted of fellow believers in the divine Christ. In the bestowal of Jesus these two concepts were potential in his divine-human life, and it is indeed a pity that his followers failed to create a unified religion which might have given proper recognition to both the human and the divine natures of the Master as they were inseparably bound up in his earth life and so gloriously set forth in the original gospel of the kingdom. (2093.1) 196:2.7 You would be neither shocked nor disturbed by some of Jesus’ strong pronouncements if you would only remember that he was the world’s most wholehearted and devoted religionist. He was a wholly consecrated mortal, unreservedly dedicated to doing his Father’s will. Many of his apparently hard sayings were more of a personal confession of faith and a pledge of devotion than commands to his followers. And it was this very singleness of purpose and unselfish devotion that enabled him to effect such extraordinary progress in the conquest of the human mind in one short life. Many of his declarations should be considered as a confession of what he demanded of himself rather than what he required of all his followers. In his devotion to the cause of the kingdom, Jesus burned all bridges behind him; he sacrificed all hindrances to the doing of his Father’s will. (2093.2) 196:2.8 Jesus blessed the poor because they were usually sincere and pious; he condemned the rich because they were usually wanton and irreligious. He would equally condemn the irreligious pauper and commend the consecrated and worshipful man of wealth. (2093.3) 196:2.9 Jesus led men to feel at home in the world; he delivered them from the slavery of taboo and taught them that the world was not fundamentally evil. He did not long to escape from his earthly life; he mastered a technique of acceptably doing the Father’s will while in the flesh. He attained an idealistic religious life in the very midst of a realistic world. Jesus did not share Paul’s pessimistic view of humankind. The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificent and eternal future for those who chose survival. He was not a moral skeptic; he viewed man positively, not negatively. He saw most men as weak rather than wicked, more distraught than depraved. But no matter what their status, they were all God’s children and his brethren. (ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING THE Muslims. ) (2093.4) 196:2.10 He taught men to place a high value upon themselves in time and in eternity. Because of this high estimate which Jesus placed upon men, he was willing to spend himself in the unremitting service of humankind. And it was this infinite worth of the finite that made the


golden rule a vital factor in his religion. What mortal can fail to be uplifted by the extraordinary faith Jesus has in him? (2093.5) 196:2.11 Jesus offered no rules for social advancement; his was a religious mission, and religion is an exclusively individual experience. The ultimate goal of society’s most advanced achievement can never hope to transcend Jesus’ brotherhood of men based on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The ideal of all social attainment can be realized only in the coming of this divine kingdom. the above is from the "URANTIA BOOK" and posted to the thread that was called Jesus is NOT a Jew by white rose.



Orange beloved, this is a UB only thread. I removed the SaLuSa post for that reason. there are other threads here by Urantian suitable for these! I don't put my own team's work here! --------------------------- Love is the highest motivation which man may utilize in his universe ascent. Love is the desire to do good to others-Urantia Book Fresh Revelation for this age found in The Urantia Book, The Phoenix Journals, The Course in Miracles (the 365 lessons, NOT the URTEXT which is FULL of BLING and otherwise google Candace Frieze. Also visit [link to www.wisdomoftherays.com] , Dolores Cannon, and Conversations with God, in which the main God giving the material is Buddha. We must build a new SANE world, ONE THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY, for the reason money is the root of all evil, is that it Enslaves the SOUL. Be about watching Aaron Russo's From Freedom to Fascism. Seeking Visionaries,who can and will create the many messianic missions needed to heal Earth and her peoples, and bring balance. Seeking those who Know their truth, ( as they listen to Their Father Fragment) and will strive earnestly to stand in that truth 100% of the time, making every moment of everyday, a Holy Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. Every Day is the Lord's Day. ---------------------------------------




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I located this in the UB because somebody posted, by the name of Mary that women could not be ministers of the Lord. Well.... that is NOT true, I am an ordained minister of the Lord, by Christ MIchael himself to this service back in 2003. there is a need for the feminine still on this planet. 1. The Women’s Evangelistic Corps (1678.5) 150:1.1 Of all the daring things which Jesus did in connection with his earth career, the most amazing was his sudden announcement on the evening of January 16: “On the morrow we will set apart ten women for the ministering work of the kingdom.” At the beginning of the two weeks’ period during which the apostles and the evangelists were to be absent from Bethsaida on their furlough, Jesus requested David to summon his parents back to their home and to dispatch messengers calling to Bethsaida ten devout women who had served in the administration of the former encampment and the tented infirmary. These women had all listened to the instruction given the young evangelists, but it had never occurred to either themselves or their teachers that Jesus would dare to commission women to teach the gospel of the kingdom and minister to the sick. These ten women selected and commissioned by Jesus were: Susanna, the daughter of the former chazan of the Nazareth synagogue; Joanna, the wife of Chuza, the steward of Herod Antipas; Elizabeth, the daughter of a wealthy Jew of Tiberias and Sepphoris; Martha, the elder sister of Andrew and Peter; Rachel, the sister-in-law of Jude, the Master’s brother in the flesh; Nasanta, the daughter of Elman, the Syrian physician; Milcha, a cousin of the Apostle Thomas; Ruth, the eldest daughter of Matthew Levi; Celta, the daughter of a Roman centurion; and Agaman, a widow of Damascus. Subsequently, Jesus added two other women to this group — Mary Magdalene and Rebecca, the daughter of Joseph of Arimathea. (1679.1) 150:1.2 Jesus authorized these women to effect their own organization and directed Judas to provide funds for their equipment and for pack animals. The ten elected Susanna as their chief and Joanna as their treasurer. From this time on they furnished their own funds; never again did they draw upon Judas for support. (1679.2) 150:1.3 It was most astounding in that day, when women were not even allowed on the main floor of the synagogue (being confined to the women’s gallery), to behold them being recognized as authorized teachers of the new gospel of the kingdom. The charge which Jesus gave these ten women as he set them apart for gospel teaching and ministry was the emancipation proclamation which set free all women and for all time; no more was man to look upon woman as his spiritual inferior. This was a decided shock to even the twelve apostles. Notwithstanding they had many times heard the Master say that “in the kingdom of heaven there is neither rich nor poor, free nor bond, male nor female, all are equally the sons and daughters of God,” they were literally stunned when he proposed formally to commission these ten women as religious teachers and even to permit their traveling about with them. The whole country was stirred up by this proceeding, the enemies of Jesus making great capital out of this move, but everywhere the women believers in the good news stood stanchly behind their chosen sisters and voiced no uncertain approval of this tardy acknowledgment of woman’s place in religious work.


And this liberation of women, giving them due recognition, was practiced by the apostles immediately after the Master’s departure, albeit they fell back to the olden customs in subsequent generations. Throughout the early days of the Christian church women teachers and ministers were called deaconesses and were accorded general recognition. But Paul, despite the fact that he conceded all this in theory, never really incorporated it into his own attitude and personally found it difficult to carry out in practice. 2. The Stop at Magdala (1679.3) 150:2.1 As the apostolic party journeyed from Bethsaida, the women traveled in the rear. During the conference time they always sat in a group in front and to the right of the speaker. Increasingly, women had become believers in the gospel of the kingdom, and it had been a source of much difficulty and no end of embarrassment when they had desired to hold personal converse with Jesus or one of the apostles. Now all this was changed. When any of the women believers desired to see the Master or confer with the apostles, they went to Susanna, and in company with one of the twelve women evangelists, they would go at once into the presence of the Master or one of his apostles. (1680.1) 150:2.2 It was at Magdala that the women first demonstrated their usefulness and vindicated the wisdom of their choosing. Andrew had imposed rather strict rules upon his associates about doing personal work with women, especially with those of questionable character. When the party entered Magdala, these ten women evangelists were free to enter the evil resorts and preach the glad tidings directly to all their inmates. And when visiting the sick, these women were able to draw very close in their ministry to their afflicted sisters. As the result of the ministry of these ten women (afterward known as the twelve women) at this place, Mary Magdalene was won for the kingdom. Through a succession of misfortunes and in consequence of the attitude of reputable society toward women who commit such errors of judgment, this woman had found herself in one of the nefarious resorts of Magdala. It was Martha and Rachel who made plain to Mary that the doors of the kingdom were open to even such as she. Mary believed the good news and was baptized by Peter the next day. (1680.2) 150:2.3 Mary Magdalene became the most effective teacher of the gospel among this group of twelve women evangelists. She was set apart for such service, together with Rebecca, at Jotapata about four weeks subsequent to her conversion. Mary and Rebecca, with the others of this group, went on through the remainder of Jesus’ life on earth, laboring faithfully and effectively for the enlightenment and uplifting of their downtrodden sisters; and when the last and tragic episode in the drama of Jesus’ life was being enacted, notwithstanding the apostles all fled but one, these women were all present, and not one either denied or betrayed him. Candace: Regards Mary M above, she did not enter this "business" by choice. She had been sold by her very own father to an evil man, and then passed to others and that is how she landed up this way. Her real name is Lady Nada, and she was and IS the soul mate of Esu Immanuel. She wrote one of the most amazing gospels which was left out of the bible on purpose. Nada is a very STRONG individual and she and Esu will walk this plane together sometime after the stasis. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 6/11/2011 10:59 PM







5. What Must I Do to Be Saved? (I remind you, this is page 1682, of paper 150 section 5, is how these are labeled as to location. ) (1682.3) 150:5.1 One evening at Shunem, after John’s apostles had returned to Hebron, and after Jesus’ apostles had been sent out two and two, when the Master was engaged in teaching a group of twelve of the younger evangelists who were laboring under the direction of Jacob, together with the twelve women, Rachel asked Jesus this question: “Master, what shall we answer when women ask us, What shall I do to be saved?” When Jesus heard this question, he answered: (1682.4) 150:5.2 “When men and women ask what shall we do to be saved, you shall answer, Believe this gospel of the kingdom; accept divine forgiveness. By faith recognize the indwelling spirit of God, whose acceptance makes you a son of God. Have you not read in the Scriptures where it says, ‘In the Lord have I righteousness and strength.’ Also where the Father says, ‘My righteousness is near; my salvation has gone forth, and my arms shall enfold my people.’ ‘My soul shall be joyful in the love of my God, for he has clothed me with the garments of salvation and has covered me with the robe of his righteousness.’ Have you not also read of the Father that his name ‘shall be called the Lord our righteousness.’ ‘Take away the filthy rags of self-righteousness and clothe my son with the robe of divine righteousness and eternal salvation.’ It is forever true, ‘the just shall live by faith.’ Entrance into the Father’s kingdom is wholly free, but progress — growth in grace — is essential to continuance therein. (1682.5) 150:5.3 “Salvation is the gift of the Father and is revealed by his Sons. Acceptance by faith on your part makes you a partaker of the divine nature, a son or a daughter of God. By faith you are justified; by faith are you saved; and by this same faith are you eternally advanced in the way of progressive and divine perfection. By faith was Abraham justified and made aware of salvation by the teachings of Melchizedek. All down through the ages has this same faith saved the sons of men, but now has a Son come forth from the Father to make salvation more real and acceptable.” (1683.1) 150:5.4 When Jesus had left off speaking, there was great rejoicing among those who had heard these gracious words, and they all went on in the days that followed proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom with new power and with renewed energy and enthusiasm. And the women rejoiced all the more to know they were included in these plans for the establishment of the kingdom on earth. (1683.2) 150:5.5 In summing up his final statement, Jesus said: “You cannot buy salvation; you cannot earn righteousness. Salvation is the gift of God, and righteousness is the natural fruit of the spirit-born life of sonship in the kingdom. You are not to be saved because you live a righteous life; rather is it that you live a righteous life because you have already been saved, have recognized sonship as the gift of God and service in the kingdom as the supreme delight of life on earth. When men believe this gospel, which is a revelation of the goodness of God, they will be led to voluntary repentance of all known sin. Realization of sonship is incompatible with the desire to sin. Kingdom believers hunger for righteousness and thirst for divine perfection.”




Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405084 NO they don't, this Galaxy is only part of the superuniverse of Orvonton, and there are 7 other superuniverses, just as big and more coming in the outer space regions. Here are some paintings on the subject. Of course from OUR view we think we are the center, but the creation did not begin with the Milky Way. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] This IS Paradise and those worlds around it , are the 21 worlds of the Universal Father, The Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] This is the CENTER of the Creation, from which everything else spreads. This is the Central Universe of Havona and if you have chosen eternal life and you continue in the steps to come, you will live there some time. Paradise is the center, that shining area ( which has the 21 worlds above first around it) and the only place that does not go around something. All the rest goes round it. There are 1 billion custom built worlds that surround it in 7 rings. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] This is the GRANd Universe which is the current projected creation. It is not quite finished, but it has 7 superuniverses swirling around it. WE are in the youngest, Orvonton. The milky Way is the core Galaxy of Orvonton, but not the whole thing, it is much larger. There are 4 rings of new universes forming outside the Grand Universe. Some of this is seen from our telescopes. The creation is massive. The 7 superuniverses have a total of about 5.6 TRILLION inhabited evolutionary planets. What you ones label "heaven" when "heaven" in the Grand universe is "finished", will have 500 billion specially built planets in it, that are not evolutionary planets like ours. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] This depicts the building of new custom "heaven" worlds in a nebula. Enjoy. There are many lovely paintings by this one who has great memories from the his life in the cosmos.



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Nobody in Particular, You writte: WE are in the youngest, Orvonton. Do you have quotes that say that the Superuniverses were created one after the others? I thought that it could have been the seven S.U. at the same time. Thank you. Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everythings. (:-DeeZe User ID: 1386117

United States 5/29/2011 10:09 AM Candace, Would you explain this verse please? What is "another dispensational bestowal"? Thanks!!! (:-DeeZe

and when the fullness of the age has come to pass, the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age. Veggie Gal User ID: 1119244

United States 5/29/2011 10:23 AM One issue I find with the Urantia book is that it, like the Bible, is taken literally by people. The bible is written in symbolism. Lucifer, for example, is mentioned as a real entity. However, enlightened ones know that the devil/Lucifer/the serpent are all different aspects of our human Ego. They are not real beings who 'fell from heaven', except symbolically as the forms we take on here while seemingly 'stuck' in the physical dimension.





Quoting: Orange the creation happens sequentially more or less over time. They were planned, but the space conditions form as they form. You have to have the nebulas forming to build the custom spheres in etc. I posted a link above by the artist Gary Tongue showing sphere worlds being constructed. This is something I just know, I don't know if this is covered in the UB, not that I remember anyway. There will be another UB that will add more details on the rest of the processes involved. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] is another of Gary tonge's pieces which is VERY GOOD. He shows stuff forming in the outer rings of the master universe. So it goes and those will have to be organized somehow too as to governments. I would assume the conditions necessary if those way back there days, there were probably many nebulas such as below at various times all around Havona, and not all in one spot. As these forming nebulas did their thing the building began. And so it goes. 1. The Andronover Nebula (651.3) 57:1.1 Urantia is of origin in your sun, and your sun is one of the multifarious offspring of the Andronover nebula, which was onetime organized as a component part of the physical power and material matter of the local universe of Nebadon. And this great nebula itself took origin in the universal force-charge of space in the superuniverse of Orvonton, long, long ago. (651.4) 57:1.2 At the time of the beginning of this recital, the Primary Master Force Organizers of Paradise had long been in full control of the space-energies which were later organized as the Andronover nebula. (651.5) 57:1.3 987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307 of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly segment of Orvonton. (651.6) 57:1.4 900,000,000,000 years ago, the Uversa archives testify, there was recorded a permit issued by the Uversa Council of Equilibrium to the superuniverse government authorizing the dispatch of a force organizer and staff to the region previously designated by inspector number 811,307. The Orvonton authorities commissioned the original discoverer of this potential universe to execute the mandate of the Ancients of Days calling for the organization of a new material creation. *



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(652.1) 57:1.5 The recording of this permit signifies that the force organizer and staff had already departed from Uversa on the long journey to that easterly space sector where they were subsequently to engage in those protracted activities which would terminate in the emergence of a new physical creation in Orvonton. (652.2) 57:1.6 875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated. Only the presence of the force organizer and the liaison staff was required to inaugurate the energy whirl which eventually grew into this vast cyclone of space. Subsequent to the initiation of such nebular revolutions, the living force organizers simply withdraw at right angles to the plane of the revolutionary disk, and from that time forward, the inherent qualities of energy insure the progressive and orderly evolution of such a new physical system. (652.3) 57:1.7 At about this time the narrative shifts to the functioning of the personalities of the superuniverse. In reality the story has its proper beginning at this point — at just about the time the Paradise force organizers are preparing to withdraw, having made the space-energy conditions ready for the action of the power directors and physical controllers of the superuniverse of Orvonton.



Quoting: Veggie Gal 1119244 Wrong on this one Veggie Girl. Lucifer was real. he was uncreated about 25 or 30 years ago now. This is part of the new age stuff that abounds. These stuff is put out deliberately by the dark ones to keep every one at each others throats. We the truth is accepted, this will stop. And the people are STUCK here until they are allowed to move on. Lucifer KEPT everyone here that incarnated into this plane, such Moses and other avatars who came prior to the bestowal of Christ Michael, were not released by Lucifer until he was deposed 2000 years ago. Lucifer is not even a part of our human ego, because he could NOT bestow his mind. He could not ensoul. He was not a creator being. the bible isn't written in symbolism either, it is ones who read that make too much of it and put material into it that is not there. the UB is straight on, but leaves out some details because certain pearls cannot be given to thugs. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 5/29/2011 10:54 AM







Quoting: (:-DeeZe 1386117 We are in it! Christ Michael has returned, in 1954. The Son of Man is back, which is why the UB got published in 1955. It was in preparation for this new dispensational bestowal that the UB was given. Had Christ Michael chosen to not return at this time, somebody else from Paradise would have come in his stead. And actually there are others from there. The magisterial mission is going on, we have had our Magisterial Son since about 1200 AD to begin the set up, and he is the one who was responsible behind the scenes for the UB, but wrote none of it. that is Monjoronson and because this is the Correcting Time, we have Trinity Teacher Sons too, a bunch of them. Some walking incarnate, some behind the scenes and there are several young Michael sons here, both incarnate and not. These are here to learn and lend a helping hands. These MIchael Sons don't have universes chosen yet and number wise the two I am aware of, are numbered in the 800,000's. Not all Michaels become Creator Sons but the training for such is long. As to the meaning of the word Dispensation, it has several in the english Language, as given here: a. The act of dispensing. b. Something dispensed. c. A specific arrangement or system by which something is dispensed. 2. An exemption or release from an obligation or rule, granted by or as if by an authority. 3. a. An exemption from a church law, a vow, or another similar obligation granted in a particular case by an ecclesiastical authority. b. The document containing this exemption. 4. Theology a. The divine ordering of worldly affairs. b. A religious system or code of commands considered to have been divinely revealed or appointed. This is the meaning given for adjudge: d·judged, ad·judg·ing, ad·judg·es 1. a. To determine or decide by judicial procedure; adjudicate. b. To order judicially; rule. c. To award (damages, for example) by law. 2. To regard, consider, or deem: was adjudged incomp




Actually the one who is here to Adjudge the age, is Morjoronson, the magisterial son, as I work thru this. So dispensational in this case, would mean to dispense a bestowal. And basically, that is christ Michael returned and Monjoronson, both who are bestowing themselves upon this world. Now lets continue with the word Bestowal: Noun 1. bestowal - the act of conferring an honor or presenting a gift conferment, conferral, bestowment giving, gift - the act of giving 2. bestowal - a gift that is bestowed or conferred bestowment gift - something acquired without compensation So christ Michael and Mojoronson are gifting themselves, bestowing, on this world. Monjoronson to Adjudicate it, Christ Michael more as teaching and a whole bunch of other discessions as part of the process of walking this world thru the ascension. I think the word Dispensational, is of the theological one above of a period of divine order. An "order" of sorts is what the word as used in the UB feels like. A time period involved in the use of the word. There are many incarnate here from the "stars", higher realms, plus planets in light and life, and they are truly bestowing themselves as a gift to this world, as part of this dispensation. I am one of them. They are scattered in every area, bestowing their business knowledge, their internet creation knowledge, their medical knowledge, there gifts of great music and art and the like. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 5/29/2011 11:34 AM (:-DeeZe User ID: 1386117

United States 5/29/2011 11:50 AM Quoting: Nobody in Particular Awesome! Thank you, dear sister, for taking the time to explain this for me. Much love to you and everyone else at AH! (:-DeeZe







Some portions of Paper 141. Beginning the Public Work (1587.1) 141:0.1 ON THE first day of the week, January 19, A.D. 27, Jesus and the twelve apostles made ready to depart from their headquarters in Bethsaida. The twelve knew nothing of their Master’s plans except that they were going up to Jerusalem to attend the Passover feast in April, and that it was the intention to journey by way of the Jordan valley. They did not get away from Zebedee’s house until near noon because the families of the apostles and others of the disciples had come to say good-bye and wish them well in the new work they were about to begin. (1587.2) 141:0.2 Just before leaving, the apostles missed the Master, and Andrew went out to find him. After a brief search he found Jesus sitting in a boat down the beach, and he was weeping. The twelve had often seen their Master when he seemed to grieve, and they had beheld his brief seasons of serious preoccupation of mind, but none of them had ever seen him weep. Andrew was somewhat startled to see the Master thus affected on the eve of their departure for Jerusalem, and he ventured to approach Jesus and ask: “On this great day, Master, when we are to depart for Jerusalem to proclaim the Father’s kingdom, why is it that you weep? Which of us has offended you?” And Jesus, going back with Andrew to join the twelve, answered him: “No one of you has grieved me. I am saddened only because none of my father Joseph’s family have remembered to come over to bid us Godspeed.” At this time Ruth was on a visit to her brother Joseph at Nazareth. Other members of his family were kept away by pride, disappointment, misunderstanding, and petty resentment indulged as a result of hurt feelings. 2. God’s Law and the Father’s Will (1588.4) 141:2.1 The night before they left Pella, Jesus gave the apostles some further instruction with regard to the new kingdom. Said the Master: “You have been taught to look for the coming of the kingdom of God, and now I come announcing that this long-looked-for kingdom is near at hand, even that it is already here and in our midst. In every kingdom there must be a king seated upon his throne and decreeing the laws of the realm. And so have you developed a concept of the kingdom of heaven as a glorified rule of the Jewish people over all the peoples of the earth with Messiah sitting on David’s throne and from this place of miraculous power promulgating the laws of all the world. But, my children, you see not with the eye of faith, and you hear not with the understanding of the spirit. I declare that the kingdom of heaven is the realization and acknowledgment of God’s rule within the hearts of men. True, there is a King in this kingdom, and that King is my Father and your Father. We are indeed his loyal subjects, but far transcending that fact is the transforming truth that we are his sons. In my life this truth is to become manifest to all. Our Father also sits upon a throne, but not one made with hands. The throne of the Infinite is the eternal dwelling place of the Father in the heaven of heavens; he fills all things and proclaims his laws to universes upon universes. And the Father also rules within the hearts of his children


on earth by the spirit which he has sent to live within the souls of mortal men. (all children of ALL WORLDS, and dear ones there are so many! Trillions of inhabited wolds.-C) (1588.5) 141:2.2 “When you are the subjects of this kingdom, you indeed are made to hear the law of the Universe Ruler; but when, because of the gospel of the kingdom which I have come to declare, you faith-discover yourselves as sons, you henceforth look not upon yourselves as law-subject creatures of an all-powerful king but as privileged sons of a loving and divine Father. Verily, verily, I say to you, when the Father’s will is your law, you are hardly in the kingdom. But when the Father’s will becomes truly your will, then are you in very truth in the kingdom because the kingdom has thereby become an established experience in you. When God’s will is your law, you are noble slave subjects; but when you believe in this new gospel of divine sonship, my Father’s will becomes your will, and you are elevated to the high position of the free children of God, liberated sons of the kingdom.” 4. Teaching about the Father While sojourning at Amathus, Jesus spent much time with the apostles instructing them in the new concept of God; again and again did he impress upon them that God is a Father, not a great and supreme bookkeeper who is chiefly engaged in making damaging entries against his erring children on earth, recordings of sin and evil to be used against them when he subsequently sits in judgment upon them as the just Judge of all creation. The Jews had long conceived of God as a king over all, even as a Father of the nation, but never before had large numbers of mortal men held the idea of God as a loving Father of the individual. (1590.5) 141:4.2 In answer to Thomas’s question, “Who is this God of the kingdom?” Jesus replied: “God is your Father, and religion — my gospel — is nothing more nor less than the believing recognition of the truth that you are his son. And I am here among you in the flesh to make clear both of these ideas in my life and teachings.” (Candace: simplfied: God is your Father, YOU are his Son. 5. Spiritual Unity (1591.6) 141:5.1 One of the most eventful of all the evening conferences at Amathus was the session having to do with the discussion of spiritual unity. James Zebedee had asked, “Master, how shall we learn to see alike and thereby enjoy more harmony among ourselves?” When Jesus heard this question, he was stirred within his spirit, so much so that he replied: “James, James, when did I teach you that you should all see alike? I have come into the world to proclaim spiritual liberty to the end that mortals may be empowered to live individual lives of originality and freedom before God. I do not desire that social harmony and fraternal peace shall be purchased by the sacrifice of free personality and spiritual originality. What I require of you, my apostles, is spirit unity — and that you can experience in the joy of your united dedication to the wholehearted doing of the will of my Father in heaven. You do not have to see alike or feel alike or even think alike in order spiritually to be alike. Spiritual unity is derived from the consciousness that each of you is indwelt, and increasingly dominated, by the spirit gift of the heavenly Father. Your apostolic harmony must grow out of the fact that the spirit hope of each of you is identical in origin, nature, and destiny. (1591.7) 141:5.2 “In this way you may experience a perfected unity of spirit purpose and spirit understanding growing out of the mutual consciousness of the identity of each of your indwelling Paradise spirits; and you may enjoy all of this profound spiritual unity in the very face of the utmost diversity of your individual attitudes of intellectual thinking, temperamental feeling, and social conduct. Your personalities may be refreshingly diverse and markedly different, while your spiritual natures and spirit fruits of divine worship and brotherly love may be so unified that all who behold


your lives will of a surety take cognizance of this spirit identity and soul unity; they will recognize that you have been with me and have thereby learned, and acceptably, how to do the will of the Father in heaven. You can achieve the unity of the service of God even while you render such service in accordance with the technique of your own original endowments of mind, body, and soul. (1592.1) 141:5.3 “Your spirit unity implies two things, which always will be found to harmonize in the lives of individual believers: First, you are possessed with a common motive for life service; you all desire above everything to do the will of the Father in heaven. Second, you all have a common goal of existence; you all purpose to find the Father in heaven, thereby proving to the universe that you have become like him.” Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 6/13/2011 5:55 PM



Quoting: saywhat 1330553 Hi SayWhat, I was going thru the thread looking for a specific post, and saw your question. No, it will not be the lightening from east to west. These ones need to be in body and they are thus on craft. IF there is needed for an evacuation of the planet, there will be HUGE EAST to WEST small craft though! Millions of them.



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Nope, as to it's INTENT, lets do 100%. There are certain things left out or denied, for very good reasons. Like reincarnation, had to be left out, because of the star seeds coming into here. And somethings man is not ready for, and also you do not give certain pearls to the thugs of this world. There will be a UB #2 that will add more details, further enlarge the revelation at some point. The reason people think its only part true, is because they are where they are in some very false knowledge and they cannot accept the truth yet. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 6/1/2011 4:50 PM



Administration of the Local Universe from paper 33. (366.1) 33:0.1 WHILE the Universal Father most certainly rules over his vast creation, he functions in a local universe administration through the person of the Creator Son. The Father does not otherwise personally function in the administrative affairs of a local universe. These matters are intrusted to the Creator Son and to the local universe Mother Spirit and to their manifold children. The plans, policies, and administrative acts of the local universe are formed and executed by this Son, who, in conjunction with his Spirit associate, delegates executive power to Gabriel and jurisdictional authority to the Constellation Fathers, System Sovereigns, and Planetary Princes. 1. Michael of Nebadon (366.2) 33:1.1 Our Creator Son is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. The Michael of Nebadon is the “only-begotten Son” personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity. His headquarters is in the threefold mansion of light on Salvington. And this dwelling is so ordered because Michael has experienced the living of all three phases of intelligent creature existence: spiritual, morontial, and material. Because of the name associated with his seventh and final bestowal on Urantia, he is sometimes spoken of as Christ Michael. (366.3) 33:1.2 Our Creator Son is not the Eternal Son, the existential Paradise associate of the Universal Father and the Infinite Spirit. Michael of Nebadon is not a member of the Paradise Trinity. Nevertheless our Master Son possesses in his realm all of the divine attributes and powers that the Eternal Son himself would manifest were he actually to be present on Salvington and





functioning in Nebadon. Michael possesses even additional power and authority, for he not only personifies the Eternal Son but also fully represents and actually embodies the personality presence of the Universal Father to and in this local universe. He even represents the Father-Son. These relationships constitute a Creator Son the most powerful, versatile, and influential of all divine beings who are capable of direct administration of evolutionary universes and of personality contact with immature creature beings. (366.4) 33:1.3 Our Creator Son exerts the same spiritual drawing power, spirit gravity, from the headquarters of the local universe that the Eternal Son of Paradise would exert if he were personally present on Salvington, and more; this Universe Son is also the personification of the Universal Father to the universe of Nebadon. Creator Sons are personality centers for the spiritual forces of the Paradise Father-Son. Creator Sons are the final power-personality focalizations of the mighty time-space attributes of God the Sevenfold. (367.1) 33:1.4 The Creator Son is the vicegerent personalization of the Universal Father, the divinity co-ordinate of the Eternal Son, and the creative associate of the Infinite Spirit. To our universe and all its inhabited worlds the Sovereign Son is, to all practical intents and purposes, God. He personifies all of the Paradise Deities which evolving mortals can discerningly comprehend. This Son and his Spirit associate are your creator parents. To you, Michael, the Creator Son, is the supreme personality; to you, the Eternal Son is supersupreme — an infinite Deity personality. (367.2) 33:1.5 In the person of the Creator Son we have a ruler and divine parent who is just as mighty, efficient, and beneficent as would be the Universal Father and the Eternal Son if both were present on Salvington and engaged in the administration of the affairs of the universe of Nebadon. 2. The Sovereign of Nebadon (367.3) 33:2.1 Observation of Creator Sons discloses that some resemble more the Father, some the Son, while others are a blend of both their infinite parents. Our Creator Son very definitely manifests traits and attributes which more resemble the Eternal Son. (367.4) 33:2.2 Michael elected to organize this local universe, and herein he now reigns supreme. His personal power is limited by the pre-existent gravity circuits centering at Paradise and by the reservation on the part of the Ancients of Days of the superuniverse government of all final executive judgments regarding the extinction of personality. Personality is the sole bestowal of the Father, but the Creator Sons, with the approval of the Eternal Son, do initiate new creature designs, and with the working co-operation of their Spirit associates they may attempt new transformations of energy-matter. (367.5) 33:2.3 Michael is the personification of the Paradise Father-Son to and in the local universe of Nebadon; therefore, when the Creative Mother Spirit, the local universe representation of the Infinite Spirit, subordinated herself to Christ Michael upon the return from his final bestowal on Urantia, the Master Son thereby acquired jurisdiction over “all power in heaven and on earth.” (367.6) 33:2.4 This subordination of the Divine Ministers to the Creator Sons of the local universes constitutes these Master Sons the personal repositories of the finitely manifestable divinity of the Father, Son, and Spirit, while the creature-bestowal experiences of the Michaels qualify them to portray the experiential divinity of the Supreme Being. No other beings in the universes have thus personally exhausted the potentials of present finite experience, and no other beings in the universes possess such qualifications for solitary sovereignty.


(367.7) 33:2.5 Although Michael’s headquarters is officially located on Salvington, the capital of Nebadon, he spends much of his time visiting the constellation and system headquarters and even the individual planets. Periodically he journeys to Paradise and often to Uversa, where he counsels with the Ancients of Days. When he is away from Salvington, his place is assumed by Gabriel, who then functions as regent of the universe of Nebadon.



Selections of material on the Eternal Son I placed in a thread by one insisting Earth is the center of the entire creation. And who like so many misunderstands the Eternal Son. the OP bashed all of the material I presented in the thread. I got labeled again, some sort of urantia nut. Anyway about the Eternal Son. (73.1) 6:0.1THE Eternal Son is the perfect and final expression of the “first” personal and absolute concept of the Universal Father. Accordingly, whenever and however the Father personally and absolutely expresses himself, he does so through his Eternal Son, who ever has been, now is, and ever will be, the living and divine Word. And this Eternal Son is residential at the center of all things, in association with, and immediately enshrouding the personal presence of, the Eternal and Universal Father. (73.2) 6:0.2We speak of God’s “first” thought and allude to an impossible time origin of the Eternal Son for the purpose of gaining access to the thought channels of the human intellect. Such distortions of language represent our best efforts at contact-compromise with the time-bound minds of mortal creatures. In the sequential sense the Universal Father never could have had a first thought, nor could the Eternal Son ever have had a beginning. But I was instructed to portray the realities of eternity to the time-limited minds of mortals by such symbols of thought and to designate the relationships of eternity by such time concepts of sequentiality. (73.5) 6:1.1The Eternal Son is the original and only-begotten Son of God. He is God the Son, the Second Person of Deity and the associate creator of all things. As the Father is the First Great Source and Center, so the Eternal Son is the Second Great Source and Center. The Eternal Son is the spiritual center and the divine administrator of the spiritual government of the universe of universes. The Universal Father is first a creator and then a controller; the Eternal Son is first a cocreator and then a spiritual administrator. “God is spirit,” and the Son is a personal revelation of that spirit. When a Son of the Eternal Son appeared on Urantia, those who fraternized with this divine being in human form alluded to him as “He who was from the beginning, whom we have heard, whom




we have seen with our eyes, whom we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, even the Word of life.” On your world, this Original Son has been confused with a co-ordinate Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon, who bestowed himself upon the mortal races of Urantia. The Eternal Son, as a loving, merciful, and ministering spiritual personality, is wholly and infinitely equal with the Universal Father. The Eternal Son, as an infinite and exclusively personal being, cannot fragmentize his nature, cannot distribute and bestow individualized portions of his selfhood upon other entities or persons as do the Universal Father and the Infinite Spirit. But the Son can and does bestow himself as an unlimited spirit to bathe all creation and unceasingly draw all spirit personalities and spiritual realities to himself. The Eternal Son is spirit and has mind, but not a mind or a spirit which mortal mind can comprehend. The Eternal Son is wholly spiritual; man is very nearly entirely material; therefore much pertaining to the spirit personality of the Eternal Son, to his seven spiritual spheres encircling Paradise and to the nature of the impersonal creations of the Paradise Son, will have to await your attainment of spirit status following your completion of the morontia ascension of the local universe of Nebadon. And then, as you pass through the superuniverse and on to Havona, many of these spirit-concealed mysteries will clarify as you begin to be endowed with the “mind of the spirit” — spiritual insight. Concerning identity, nature, and other attributes of personality, the Eternal Son is the full equal, the perfect complement, and the eternal counterpart of the Universal Father. In the same sense that God is the Universal Father, the Son is the Universal Mother. And all of us, high and low, constitute their universal family. Candace: and the above is evident in MATTER because some of the elements are 'father elements" and some of them are "mother elements. Father elements are the one with so the so called "positive charge" you studied in chemistry, anyone that studied some chemistry. The so called "negatively charged" elements (which is a stupid concept, there is No negative charge), are the mother elements. They get "married" and children when they combine. Water is an example of such a child of the marriage of the Father element Hydrogen with the mother element Oxygen. Water is their baby. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 6/11/2011 9:30 PM







Highly important single quote from the UB, used again, in the earth is the center of the universe thread I posted a LOT in. This is the link, if you wish to look at it. I need to collect my posts maybe into the Misunderstandings of Christians thread I have. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Here is the UB post. MEMORIZE the concept and use it with others. 1590.5) 141:4.2 In answer to Thomas’s question, “Who is this God of the kingdom?” Jesus replied: “God is your Father, and religion — my gospel — is nothing more nor less than the believing recognition of the truth that you are his son. And I am here among you in the flesh to make clear both of these ideas in my life and teachings.” Those ideas repeated are: 1.) God is your FATHER and 2.)YOU ARE HIS SON. -C

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Quoting: Nobody in Particular Thanks for the thread. I have been strudying the Urantia book for about three years noe and it has really made a diffrence in my life. I started by reading section four first and that made it easier to get into. The book is not essentiaal to having a relationship with God but for me it was a real boost. There was no question this book is it for me.







On my Forum there is a thread where one is posting the thoughts to ponder from the UB site each day. Here is a nice collection: "Remember, there are two things you cannot run away from-God and yourself. Wherever you may go, you take with you yourself and the spirit of the heavenly Father which lives within your heart." Jesus, (1475.4) 133:4.11 ***************** "The Zoroastrians had a religion of morals; the Hindus a religion of metaphysics; the Confucianists a religion of ethics. Jesus lived a religion of service." (67.5) 5:4.7 ***************** "Candidates for eternal life are practitioners of an invigorating and constructive technique for meeting all of the vicissitudes and harassments of mortal living. Every day a true believer lives, he finds it easier to do the right thing." (1739.8) 156:5.13 ***************** "It is the business and duty of society to provide the child of nature with a fair and peaceful opportunity to pursue self-maintenance, participate in self-perpetuation, while at the same time enjoying some measure of self-gratification, the sum of all three constituting human happiness." (794.12) 70:9.17 ********************* "The world needs more firsthand religion. Even Christianity - the best of the religions of the twentieth century - is not only a religion about Jesus, but it is so largely one which men experience secondhand." (2083.4) 195:9.8 ******************** "Do not allow the magnitude of the infinity, the immensity of the eternity, and the grandeur and glory of the matchless character of God to overawe, stagger, or discourage you; for the Father is not very far from any one of you; he dwells within you, and in him do we all literally move, actually live, and veritably have our being." (Candace: something Christians continue to completely not understand, as they stare skyward each Sunday and continue to do little to walk in God's or Jesus' shoes ) (139.1) 12:7.12 *********************** "It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith." (1012.4) 92:7.3


*************** "It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith." (1012.4) 92:7.3 ********************* "Modern man is confronted with the task of making more readjustments of human values in one generation than have been made in two thousand years." (1013.9) 92:7.14 *********************** " ...international relations should be fostered, whether they involve language, trade, art, science, competitive play, or religion." (908.8) 81:6.19 *************** "It is most unfortunate that those who have come to venerate the divine and risen Christ should have overlooked the man - the valiant and courageous hero - Joshua ben Joseph." (1013.7) 92:7.12 ***************** "New orders of physical creations, enormous and gigantic circles of swarming universes upon universes far out beyond the present bounds of the peopled and organized creations, are actually visible through your telescopes." (354.1) 31:10.16 ******************** "When Material Sons, the biologic uplifters, begin their sojourn on an evolutionary world, their place of abode is often called the Garden of Eden because it is characterized by the floral beauty and the botanic grandeur of Edentia, the constellation capital." ( these material sons, meaning having reproducing bodies, are the Adams and Eves. We had ours 38,000 years ago) (823.7) 73:4.1 ***************** "...truly, 'Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither has it entered into the mind of mortal man, the things which the Universal Father has prepared for those who survive the life in the flesh on the worlds of time and space.' " (how true, you ones do not concept heaven well at all, nor eternity. What DO YOU DO FOR TRILLIONS of YEARS of ETERNAL LIFE?) (121.6) 11:4.5 *****************


"An almost endless variety of creature life and other living manifestations characterizes the countless worlds of space." (173.6) 15:6.11 ************************** "Intelligence may control the mechanism of civilization, wisdom may direct it, but spiritual idealism is the energy which really uplifts and advances human culture from one level of attainment to another." (And where is this, beloved christians, spiritual idealism? You are supposed to spirit filled and while some of you are, most are lacking. I can't say anything about Islam since i have not experienced that, but even since 911, it would seem spirit filled folks are decreasing by the day! Where have you been, where are your works? 911 remains not exposed for what it was, and you ones have continued to send your children off to war in the MIddle East where terrible genocide goes on. Religion or not, where are your spirits, as this world continues to be polluted and destroyed. -Candace) (909.8) 81:6.27 *********************** "... why are you so slow to learn that the secret of greatness in the spiritual kingdom is not like the methods of power in the material world? Jesus, (1939.6) 179:3.8 ******************* "The normal urges of animal beings and the natural appetites and impulses of the physical nature are not in conflict with even the highest spiritual attainment except in the minds of ignorant, mistaught, or unfortunately overconscientious persons." (383.1) 34:7.7 ********************* "The doctrine of a personal devil on Urantia, though it had some foundation in the planetary presence of the traitorous and iniquitous Caligastia, was nevertheless wholly fictitious in its teachings that such a 'devil' could influence the normal human mind against its free and natural choosing..." (Pay big attention to this statement, those of you bent on the devil and satan stuff -C ) (753.2) 66:8.6 ***************** "Religion effectually cures man's sense of idealistic isolation or spiritual loneliness; it enfranchises the believer as a son of God, a citizen of a new and meaningful universe." (that is, religion that is YOUR personal relationship with God, not these clubs. I have no problem with clubs, but they must be filled with spirit filled people.) (1117.1) 101:10.7 ***************** "The God-conscious mortal is certain of salvation; he is unafraid of life; he is honest and


consistent. He knows how bravely to endure unavoidable suffering; he is uncomplaining when faced by inescapable hardship." (1740.7) 156:5.20 ******************** "And if you are the sons of God, then have you been born of the spirit of God; and whosoever has been born of the spirit has in himself the power to overcome all doubt, and this is the victory that overcomes all uncertainty, even your faith." Jesus, (1601.3) 142:5.3 ************************ "Forceful ambition, intelligent judgment, and seasoned wisdom are the essentials of material success." The Teachings of Jesus, (1739.2) 156:5.7 ******************* "Modern man is adequately self-conscious of religion, but his worshipful customs are confused and discredited by his accelerated social metamorphosis and unprecedented scientific developments." (1013.8) 92:7.13 ******************* Boy is this one TRUE, institutional religion is a terrible mess : "Institutional religion ...cannot reconstruct itself until society has been radically reconstructed." (1087.5) 99:2.2 ************************* "Many of you have dared to believe my teachings and have already entered into the joy and liberty of the consciousness of sonship with God." (DEAR ONES STOP MAKING JESUS the only SON of GOD. For yea ones are Sons and see it not. Jesus, (1905.5) 175:1.3 ********************* "We do not know the absolute limits of space, but we do know that the absolute of time is eternity." (135.1) 12:5.2 **************** And this remains an important teaching I place around GLP of late: 1590.5) 141:4.2 In answer to Thomas’s question, “Who is this God of the kingdom?” Jesus replied: “God is your Father, and religion — my gospel — is nothing more nor less than the


believing recognition of the truth that you are his son. And I am here among you in the flesh to make clear both of these ideas in my life and teachings.” (Candace: simplfied: God is your Father, YOU are his Son. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 6/13/2011 5:57 PM

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This is from Paper 54, Problems of the Lucifer Rebellion. I am myself a Mighty Messenger, but very recently did I achieve this. The Mightly Messenger who wrote this piece has to be a VERY old one, since he/she dates back to the first system rebellion ever. Mighty Messengers are those finaliters who have resisted or prevented rebellion. Being this "old" and still learning wisdom should suggest one will never know it all, or perhaps it takes an awfully long time. But that IS the goal of the FAther beloveds that all should pursue becoming LIKE HIM, knowing all things. Your SOUL stores your knowledge forever. I placed this particular piece on purpose today, because this illustrates where your career choices might lead you. I am here by choice, being a free being to further enhance my own knowledge experientially. May you all look upon your current incarnations the same way, the opportunity to learn by EXPERIENCE, which out weighs always learning by books. BE REFLECTIVE THINKERS! For so you shall become more divine.- Candace 6. The Triumph of Love







(618.4) 54:6.1 Whatever the difficulties evolutionary mortals may encounter in their efforts to understand the Lucifer rebellion, it should be clear to all reflective thinkers that the technique of dealing with the rebels is a vindication of divine love. The loving mercy extended to the rebels does seem to have involved many innocent beings in trials and tribulations, but all these distraught personalities may securely depend upon the all-wise Judges to adjudicate their destinies in mercy as well as justice. (618.5) 54:6.2 In all their dealings with intelligent beings, both the Creator Son and his Paradise Father are love dominated. It is impossible to comprehend many phases of the attitude of the universe rulers toward rebels and rebellion — sin and sinners — unless it be remembered that God as a Father takes precedence over all other phases of Deity manifestation in all the dealings of divinity with humanity. It should also be recalled that the Paradise Creator Sons are all mercy motivated. (618.6) 54:6.3 If an affectionate father of a large family chooses to show mercy to one of his children guilty of grievous wrongdoing, it may well be that the extension of mercy to this misbehaving child will work a temporary hardship upon all the other and well-behaved children. Such eventualities are inevitable; such a risk is inseparable from the reality situation of having a loving parent and of being a member of a family group. Each member of a family profits by the righteous conduct of every other member; likewise must each member suffer the immediate time-consequences of the misconduct of every other member. Families, groups, nations, races, worlds, systems, constellations, and universes are relationships of association which possess individuality; and therefore does every member of any such group, large or small, reap the benefits and suffer the consequences of the rightdoing and the wrongdoing of all other members of the group concerned. (619.1) 54:6.4 But one thing should be made clear: If you are made to suffer the evil consequences of the sin of some member of your family, some fellow citizen or fellow mortal, even rebellion in the system or elsewhere — no matter what you may have to endure because of the wrongdoing of your associates, fellows, or superiors — you may rest secure in the eternal assurance that such tribulations are transient afflictions. None of these fraternal consequences of misbehavior in the group can ever jeopardize your eternal prospects or in the least degree deprive you of your divine right of Paradise ascension and God attainment. (Candace: in fact, in the reflective thinker, it is of GREAT VALUE, for it forces problem solving that comes from that.) (619.2) 54:6.5 And there is compensation for these trials, delays, and disappointments which invariably accompany the sin of rebellion. Of the many valuable repercussions of the Lucifer rebellion which might be named, I will only call attention to the enhanced careers of those mortal ascenders, the Jerusem citizens, who, by withstanding the sophistries of sin, placed themselves in line for becoming future Mighty Messengers, fellows of my own order. Every being who stood the test of that evil episode thereby immediately advanced his administrative status and enhanced his spiritual worth. (619.3) 54:6.6 At first the Lucifer upheaval appeared to be an unmitigated calamity to the system and to the universe. Gradually benefits began to accrue. With the passing of twenty-five thousand years of system time (twenty thousand years of Urantia time), the Melchizedeks began to teach that the good resulting from Lucifer’s folly had come to equal the evil incurred. The sum of evil had by that time become almost stationary, continuing to increase only on certain isolated worlds, while the beneficial repercussions continued to multiply and extend out through the universe and superuniverse, even to Havona. The Melchizedeks now teach that the good resulting from the Satania rebellion is more than a thousand times the sum of all the evil.


(619.4) 54:6.7 But such an extraordinary and beneficent harvest of wrongdoing could only be brought about by the wise, divine, and merciful attitude of all of Lucifer’s superiors, extending from the Constellation Fathers on Edentia to the Universal Father on Paradise. The passing of time has enhanced the consequential good to be derived from the Lucifer folly; and since the evil to be penalized was quite fully developed within a comparatively short time, it is apparent that the all-wise and farseeing universe rulers would be certain to extend the time in which to reap increasingly beneficial results. Regardless of the many additional reasons for delaying the apprehension and adjudication of the Satania rebels, this one gain would have been enough to explain why these sinners were not sooner interned, and why they have not been adjudicated and destroyed. (Candace: Lucifer has now been adjudicated and rejected rehabilitation, and thus chose his uncreation, annihilation of his essence. Satan has also, and chose rehabilitation. He is not of course on this planet anymore, he is working that one off someplace else.) (619.5) 54:6.8 Shortsighted and time-bound mortal minds should be slow to criticize the time delays of the farseeing and all-wise administrators of universe affairs. (620.1) 54:6.9 One error of human thinking respecting these problems consists in the idea that all evolutionary mortals on an evolving planet would choose to enter upon the Paradise career if sin had not cursed their world. The ability to decline survival does not date from the times of the Lucifer rebellion. Mortal man has always possessed the endowment of freewill choice regarding the Paradise career. (620.2) 54:6.10 As you ascend in the survival experience, you will broaden your universe concepts and extend your horizon of meanings and values; and thus will you be able the better to understand why such beings as Lucifer and Satan are permitted to continue in rebellion. You will also better comprehend how ultimate (if not immediate) good can be derived from time-limited evil. After you attain Paradise, you will really be enlightened and comforted when you listen to the superaphic philosophers discuss and explain these profound problems of universe adjustment. But even then, I doubt that you will be fully satisfied in your own minds. At least I was not even when I had thus attained the acme of universe philosophy. I did not achieve a full comprehension of these complexities until after I had been assigned to administrative duties in the superuniverse, where by actual experience I have acquired conceptual capacity adequate for the comprehension of such many-sided problems in cosmic equity and spiritual philosophy. As you ascend Paradiseward, you will increasingly learn that many problematic features of universe administration can only be comprehended subsequent to the acquirement of increased experiential capacity and to the achievement of enhanced spiritual insight. Cosmic wisdom is essential to the understanding of cosmic situations. (620.3) 54:6.11 [Presented by a Mighty Messenger of experiential survival in the first system rebellion in the universes of time now attached to the superuniverse government of Orvonton and acting in this matter by request of Gabriel of Salvington.] (:-DeeZe User ID: 1436374

United States 7/4/2011 4:14 PM (619.5) 54:6.8 Shortsighted and time-bound mortal minds should be slow to criticize the time delays of the farseeing and all-wise administrators of universe affairs.


Thanks for posting this Candace, I hadn't seen/read this one. The above quote/admonition is SO important right now. Much love, (:-DeeZe



The goal is Light and Life for This planet. THAT IS what is meant by the "new earth and new heaven" in Revelations. Some think that the earth will blow up in fire and then God will make a new one. NO,, the Fire means the earth will renew from the Lies and go into TRUTH and a holy people will occupy her. That IS the "new heaven". This world will be back into heaven, reclaimed. Paper 55. The Spheres of Light and Life- Introduction (621.1) 55:0.1 THE age of light and life is the final evolutionary attainment of a world of time and space. From the early times of primitive man, such an inhabited world has passed through the successive planetary ages — the pre- and the post-Planetary Prince ages, the post-Adamic age, the post-Magisterial Son age, and the postbestowal Son age. And then is such a world made ready for the culminating evolutionary attainment, the settled status of light and life, by the ministry of the successive planetary missions of the Trinity Teacher Sons with their ever-advancing revelations of divine truth and cosmic wisdom. In these endeavors the Teacher Sons enjoy the assistance of the Brilliant Evening Stars always, and the Melchizedeks sometimes, in establishing the final planetary age. Notice the part I bolded below. The reason there are so many star ships pretending to "stars" in our sky,. is that our entire solar system is being MOVED, and since we can't let people know, it's not time, there has to be what people expect up there. So when the craft no longer have to pretend to be stars, surely our "heavens" up there are going to be a bit different. Our Solar system is being moved to a new energy circuit to sustain us. Plus there is an interchange of energy between our Sun and our New Sun, Jupiter. And Saturn will be made into a sun also. Our sun is cooling a bit but brighter, from the new energies as part of its coming into eternal life. -C (621.2) 55:0.2 This era of light and life, inaugurated by the Teacher Sons at the conclusion of their final planetary mission, continues indefinitely on the inhabited worlds. Each advancing stage of




settled status may be segregated by the judicial actions of the Magisterial Sons into a succession of dispensations; but all such judicial actions are purely technical, in no way modifying the course of planetary events. (621.3) 55:0.3 Only those planets which attain existence in the main circuits of the superuniverse are assured of continuous survival, but as far as we know, these worlds settled in light and life are destined to go on throughout the eternal ages of all future time. (621.4) 55:0.4 There are seven stages in the unfoldment of the era of light and life on an evolutionary world, and in this connection it should be noted that the worlds of the Spirit-fused mortals evolve along lines identical with those of the Adjuster-fusion series. These seven stages of light and life are: (621.5) 55:0.5 1. The first or planetary stage. (621.6) 55:0.6 2. The second or system stage. (621.7) 55:0.7 3. The third or constellation stage. (621.8) 55:0.8 4. The fourth or local universe stage. (621.9) 55:0.9 5. The fifth or minor sector stage. (621.10) 55:0.10 6. The sixth or major sector stage. (621.11) 55:0.11 7. The seventh or superuniverse stage. (621.12) 55:0.12 At the conclusion of this narrative these stages of advancing development are described as they relate to the universe organization, but the planetary values of any stage may be attained by any world quite independent of the development of other worlds or of the superplanetary levels of universe administration.



This is section 3 of paper 55, spheres of Light and LIfe. I want you to carefully read this one and compare to what you see now on earth. We have a long ways to go yet. I am going to make some commentary INSIDE the piece, I will place it in blue. -Candace 3. The Golden Ages (624.7) 55:3.1 During this age of light and life the world increasingly prospers under the fatherly rule of the Planetary Sovereign. By this time the worlds are progressing under the momentum of one language, one religion, and, on normal spheres, one race. But this age is not perfect. These worlds still have well-appointed hospitals, homes for the care of the sick. There still remain the problems of caring for accidental injuries and the inescapable infirmities attendant upon the




decrepitude of old age and the disorders of senility. Disease has not been entirely vanquished, neither have the earth animals been subdued in perfection; but such worlds are like Paradise in comparison with the early times of primitive man during the pre-Planetary Prince age. You would instinctively describe such a realm — could you be suddenly transported to a planet in this stage of development — as heaven on earth. Candace: Again we are working towards "heaven on earth" and since planets in Light and Life, are Eternal, they are "heaven." (625.1) 55:3.2 Human government in the conduct of material affairs continues to function throughout this age of relative progress and perfection. The public activities of a world in the first stage of light and life which I recently visited were financed by the tithing technique. Every adult worker — and all able-bodied citizens worked at something — paid ten per cent of his income or increase to the public treasury, and it was disbursed as follows: (625.2) 55:3.3 1. Three per cent was expended in the promotion of truth — science, education, and philosophy. (625.3) 55:3.4 2. Three per cent was devoted to beauty — play, social leisure, and art. (625.4) 55:3.5 3. Three per cent was dedicated to goodness — social service, altruism, and religion. (625.5) 55:3.6 4. One per cent was assigned to the insurance reserves against the risk of incapacity for labor resultant from accident, disease, old age, or unpreventable disasters. Candace: Now these worlds are often still on money, but they have become moral. Because of the morality, money is not needed to fund police and military services. These worlds are at piece. And the work required, is far less than on this planet, because much of production has become automated. All these worlds also have space travel and mine empty spheres that do not have life for resources. They do not destroy their own worlds with extensive mining, like we are doing here. They often have a measure of population control in part by they can MOVE. Now, planets in light and life are sustainable in ALL WAYS. They keep their populations within the limits of the planet to support and the like. They manufacture things CORRECTLY. They don't manufacture cheap shit that doesn't last. They don't need a new design of car every 3 years and all that sort of stuff. They dress simply, do not require 100's of pairs of shoes and that sort of thing. They are NOT materialistic. (625.6) 55:3.7 The natural resources of this planet were administered as social possessions, community property. (Candace: this is the general consensus on all planets in light and life. All is shared, and as money is given up, that really materializes. Do some thinking on our waste and competitiveness with money and how it brings great harm to this world. ) (625.7) 55:3.8 On this world the highest honor conferred upon a citizen was the order of “supreme service,” being the only degree of recognition ever to be granted in the morontia temple. This recognition was bestowed upon those who had long distinguished themselves in some phase of supermaterial discovery or planetary social service. (the morontial temple is covered in part 2 of this paper, I didn't place it, some readers would be lost in the idea right now, you can read it at www.urantia.org if interested. ) (625.8) 55:3.9 The majority of social and administrative posts were held jointly by men and women. Most of the teaching was also done jointly; likewise all judicial trusts were discharged by similar associated couples. (625.9) 55:3.10 On these superb worlds the childbearing period is not greatly prolonged. It is not best for too many years to intervene between the ages of a family of children. When close together


in age, children are able to contribute much more to their mutual training. And on these worlds they are magnificently trained by the competitive systems of keen striving in the advanced domains and divisions of diverse achievement in the mastery of truth, beauty, and goodness. Never fear but that even such glorified spheres present plenty of evil, real and potential, which is stimulative of the choosing between truth and error, good and evil, sin and righteousness. Candace: and on these worlds, they have learned how to balance their societies, and only some folks engage in having children, based on all sorts of criteria. Genetics must be pure for example. The world before it enters early light and life has already accomplished a huge goal of improving their races genetically. Ponder the idea of "eugenics" which is used the wrong way on this planet. This world WILL, as it climbs higher in spirituality, have a goal of racial improvment, for it MUST to become sustainable and rise out of sin. (625.10) 55:3.11 Nevertheless, there is a certain, inevitable penalty attaching to mortal existence on such advanced evolutionary planets. When a settled world progresses beyond the third stage of light and life, all ascenders are destined, before attaining the minor sector, to receive some sort of transient assignment on a planet passing through the earlier stages of evolution. ( this statement is interesting, as in general, the souls maturing on these worlds are close to graduating from their universe and moving onto the minor sectors of the superuniverse in knowledge attainment.) These ones after finishing the life on such a planet, could visit a world like this, by either incarnation, or living on it's "other side" so to speak. These ones as they are nearly spirit beings, would be invisible to the mortals on worlds like this. (626.1) 55:3.12 Each of these successive ages represents advancing achievements in all phases of planetary attainment. In the initial age of light the revelation of truth was enlarged to embrace the workings of the universe of universes, while the Deity study of the second age is the attempt to master the protean concept of the nature, mission, ministry, associations, origin, and destiny of the Creator Sons, the first level of God the Sevenfold. (626.2) 55:3.13 A planet the size of Urantia, when fairly well settled, would have about one hundred subadministrative centers. These subordinate centers would be presided over by one of the following groups of qualified administrators: Now, some of you know that my organization IS the 2nd Coming organization which is a partnership with Esu, Christ MIchael and others yet to mentioned, along with the ground crew. We already are in this process of appointing subadminstrators. This world will be administered by AH. Esu and Christ Michael of course, both will walk this planet at some point. We already have chosen where the administrative headquarters will be, which is in Colorado. During the period of stasis, we will be dividing up the planet into 50 to 100 regions, each under a "regional director." Many of these ARE in the groups below and INCARNATE at this time. Some of you may not understand the commentary below and since we aren't yet into Light and life, just read it and don't worry if these ones are not understood by you. Who sits in our various 50 to 100 regions will fluctuate a lot in the years leading up to light and life. so some of these folks are NOT yet serving listed below. We also have the issue of we have No Adam and Eve, as they defaulted. Esu's mission on this world is much around catching UP on what has been missed. We will be establishing MANY universities under the administration of the International Headquarters around the world. Rather than building anew, depending of course on the upcoming earth changes, we will contract or purchase some schools. The Adams and Eves ALWAYS establish grand institutions of higher learning. And as to DNA improvement, as part of the Correcting Time, many are incarnating into specially created embryos which is why you see so many highly advanced young people now. We do not have time to wait on the natural process and also, the Adam and Eve racial uplifting failed with their default. So it's being done behind the scenes. (626.3) 55:3.14 1. Young Material Sons and Daughters brought from the system headquarters to


act as assistants to the ruling Adam and Eve. (626.4) 55:3.15 2. The progeny of the semimortal staff of the Planetary Prince who were procreated on certain worlds for this and other similar responsibilities. (626.5) 55:3.16 3. The direct planetary progeny of Adam and Eve. (626.6) 55:3.17 4. Materialized and humanized midway creatures. (626.7) 55:3.18 5. Mortals of Adjuster-fusion status who, upon their own petition, are temporarily exempted from translation by the order of the Personalized Adjuster of universe chieftainship in order that they may continue on the planet in certain important administrative posts. (626.8) 55:3.19 6. Specially trained mortals of the planetary schools of administration who have also received the order of supreme service of the morontia temple. (626.9) 55:3.20 7. Certain elective commissions of three properly qualified citizens who are sometimes chosen by the citizenry by direction of the Planetary Sovereign in accordance with their special ability to accomplish some definite task which is needful in that particular planetary sector. (626.10) 55:3.21 The great handicap confronting Urantia in the matter of attaining the high planetary destiny of light and life is embraced in the problems of disease, degeneracy, war, multicolored races, and multilingualism. (626.11) 55:3.22 No evolutionary world can hope to progress beyond the first stage of settledness in light until it has achieved one language, one religion, and one philosophy. Being of one race greatly facilitates such achievement, but the many peoples of Urantia do not preclude the attainment of higher stages. (Candace: in fact, the many races of this world ARE ON PURPOSE, the goal here of having many peoples become ONE in philosophy. there are many folks from other worlds incarnate in the races here, since this has been a prison ward. There is great opportunity ahead for those who have been in this prison, who have been successful in completely 51% of their karma and get to stay with the ascending planet. )



Part 5 of paper 55. I will also add a paragraph from pat 4. b]5. The Acme of Material Development (629.10) 55:5.1 Mortal creatures living on a sin-stricken, evil-dominated, self-seeking, isolated world, such as Urantia, can hardly conceive of the physical perfection, the intellectual attainment, and the spiritual development which characterize these advanced epochs of evolution on a sinless sphere. (629.11) 55:5.2 The advanced stages of a world settled in light and life represent the acme of evolutionary material development. On these cultured worlds, gone are the idleness and friction of




the earlier primitive ages. Poverty and social inequality have all but vanished, degeneracy has disappeared, and delinquency is rarely observed. Insanity has practically ceased to exist, and feeble-mindedness is a rarity. (629.12) 55:5.3 The economic, social, and administrative status of these worlds is of a high and perfected order. Science, art, and industry flourish, and society is a smoothly working mechanism of high material, intellectual, and cultural achievement. Industry has been largely diverted to serving the higher aims of such a superb civilization. The economic life of such a world has become ethical. (630.1) 55:5.4 War has become a matter of history, and there are no more armies or police forces. Government is gradually disappearing. Self-control is slowly rendering laws of human enactment obsolete. The extent of civil government and statutory regulation, in an intermediate state of advancing civilization, is in inverse proportion to the morality and spirituality of the citizenship. (630.2) 55:5.5 Schools are vastly improved and are devoted to the training of mind and the expansion of soul. The art centers are exquisite and the musical organizations superb. The temples of worship with their associated schools of philosophy and experiential religion are creations of beauty and grandeur. The open-air arenas of worship assembly are equally sublime in the simplicity of their artistic appointment. (the temples of worship are far beyond our organized religions developed by the dark ones on this planet to divide people and keep them ignorant. These temples of worship are attended by people who know TRUTH, and do not battle between each other of things like the HELLFIRE on this planet we see so much here on GLP. Jesus NEVER EVER taught Hell fire. or an eternal hell. NEVER. It does not exist. The creation runs on LOVE. And people in light and life as they become knowledgable are growing up. -C (630.3) 55:5.6 The provisions for competitive play, humor, and other phases of personal and group achievement are ample and appropriate. A special feature of the competitive activities on such a highly cultured world concerns the efforts of individuals and groups to excel in the sciences and philosophies of cosmology. Literature and oratory flourish, and language is so improved as to be symbolic of concepts as well as to be expressive of ideas. Life is refreshingly simple; man has at last co-ordinated a high state of mechanical development with an inspiring intellectual attainment and has overshadowed both with an exquisite spiritual achievement. The pursuit of happiness is an experience of joy and satisfaction. Ok the part from part 4. 2. The second stage of light and life. This epoch is signalized on the worlds by the arrival of a Life Carrier who becomes the volunteer adviser of the planetary rulers regarding the further efforts to purify and stabilize the mortal race. Thus do the Life Carriers actively participate in the further evolution of the human race — physically, socially, and economically. And then they extend their supervision to the further purification of the mortal stock by the drastic elimination of the retarded and persisting remnants of inferior potential of an intellectual, philosophic, cosmic, and spiritual nature. Those who design and plant life on an inhabited world are fully competent to advise the Material Sons and Daughters, who have full and unquestioned authority to purge the evolving race of all detrimental influences.






Hi everyone, the below thread is about the UB, from somebody thinking its all crap, because he doesn't understand the language. I have done a LOT of posting in it, around the topic of the Master Spirits in particular because of the sample posted in the thread from Paper 16 in the Master Spirits. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] In case its NOT posted in this thread, here is one selection from Paper 16 I used. 6. The Cosmic Mind (191.4) 16:6.1 The Master Spirits are the sevenfold source of the cosmic mind, the intellectual potential of the grand universe. This cosmic mind is a subabsolute manifestation of the mind of the Third Source and Center and, in certain ways, is functionally related to the mind of the evolving Supreme Being. (191.5) 16:6.2 On a world like Urantia we do not encounter the direct influence of the Seven Master Spirits in the affairs of the human races. You live under the immediate influence of the Creative Spirit of Nebadon. Nevertheless these same Master Spirits dominate the basic reactions of all creature mind because they are the actual sources of the intellectual and spiritual potentials which have been specialized in the local universes for function in the lives of those individuals who inhabit the evolutionary worlds of time and space. (191.6) 16:6.3 The fact of the cosmic mind explains the kinship of various types of human and superhuman minds. Not only are kindred spirits attracted to each other, but kindred minds are also very fraternal and inclined towards co-operation the one with the other. Human minds are sometimes observed to be running in channels of astonishing similarity and inexplicable agreement. (191.7) 16:6.4 There exists in all personality associations of the cosmic mind a quality which might be denominated the “reality response.” It is this universal cosmic endowment of will creatures which saves them from becoming helpless victims of the implied a priori assumptions of science, philosophy, and religion. This reality sensitivity of the cosmic mind responds to certain phases of reality just as energy-material responds to gravity. It would be still more correct to say that these supermaterial realities so respond to the mind of the cosmos. (192.1) 16:6.5 The cosmic mind unfailingly responds (recognizes response) on three levels of universe reality. These responses are self-evident to clear-reasoning and deep-thinking minds. These levels of reality are: (192.2) 16:6.6 1. Causation — the reality domain of the physical senses, the scientific realms of logical uniformity, the differentiation of the factual and the nonfactual, reflective conclusions based on cosmic response. This is the mathematical form of the cosmic discrimination.

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(192.3) 16:6.7 2. Duty — the reality domain of morals in the philosophic realm, the arena of reason, the recognition of relative right and wrong. This is the judicial form of the cosmic discrimination. (192.4) 16:6.8 3. Worship — the spiritual domain of the reality of religious experience, the personal realization of divine fellowship, the recognition of spirit values, the assurance of eternal survival, the ascent from the status of servants of God to the joy and liberty of the sons of God. This is the highest insight of the cosmic mind, the reverential and worshipful form of the cosmic discrimination. (192.5) 16:6.9 These scientific, moral, and spiritual insights, these cosmic responses, are innate in the cosmic mind, which endows all will creatures. The experience of living never fails to develop these three cosmic intuitions; they are constitutive in the self-consciousness of reflective thinking. But it is sad to record that so few persons on Urantia take delight in cultivating these qualities of courageous and independent cosmic thinking. (192.6) 16:6.10 In the local universe mind bestowals, these three insights of the cosmic mind constitute the a priori assumptions which make it possible for man to function as a rational and self-conscious personality in the realms of science, philosophy, and religion. Stated otherwise, the recognition of the reality of these three manifestations of the Infinite is by a cosmic technique of self-revelation. Matter-energy is recognized by the mathematical logic of the senses; mind-reason intuitively knows its moral duty; spirit-faith (worship) is the religion of the reality of spiritual experience. These three basic factors in reflective thinking may be unified and co-ordinated in personality development, or they may become disproportionate and virtually unrelated in their respective functions. But when they become unified, they produce a strong character consisting in the correlation of a factual science, a moral philosophy, and a genuine religious experience. And it is these three cosmic intuitions that give objective validity, reality, to man’s experience in and with things, meanings, and values. (192.7) 16:6.11 It is the purpose of education to develop and sharpen these innate endowments of the human mind; of civilization to express them; of life experience to realize them; of religion to ennoble them; and of personality to unify them.



Continuing with Paper 16, of which I posted part 6 above. This is easy reading for those with command of the English language. Paper 16 is about the Master Spirits, (bestower of cosmic mind, part of Infinite spirit of the Trinity, as a short statement. 7. Morals, Virtue, and Personality (192.8) 16:7.1 Intelligence alone cannot explain the moral nature. Morality, virtue, is indigenous to




human personality. Moral intuition, the realization of duty, is a component of human mind endowment and is associated with the other inalienables of human nature: scientific curiosity and spiritual insight. Man’s mentality far transcends that of his animal cousins, but it is his moral and religious natures that especially distinguish him from the animal world. (193.1) 16:7.2 The selective response of an animal is limited to the motor level of behavior. The supposed insight of the higher animals is on a motor level and usually appears only after the experience of motor trial and error. Man is able to exercise scientific, moral, and spiritual insight prior to all exploration or experimentation. (193.2) 16:7.3 Only a personality can know what it is doing before it does it; only personalities possess insight in advance of experience. A personality can look before it leaps and can therefore learn from looking as well as from leaping. A nonpersonal animal ordinarily learns only by leaping. (193.3) 16:7.4 As a result of experience an animal becomes able to examine the different ways of attaining a goal and to select an approach based on accumulated experience. But a personality can also examine the goal itself and pass judgment on its worth-whileness, its value. Intelligence alone can discriminate as to the best means of attaining indiscriminate ends, but a moral being possesses an insight which enables him to discriminate between ends as well as between means. And a moral being in choosing virtue is nonetheless intelligent. He knows what he is doing, why he is doing it, where he is going, and how he will get there. (193.4) 16:7.5 When man fails to discriminate the ends of his mortal striving, he finds himself functioning on the animal level of existence. He has failed to avail himself of the superior advantages of that material acumen, moral discrimination, and spiritual insight which are an integral part of his cosmic-mind endowment as a personal being. (193.5) 16:7.6 Virtue is righteousness — conformity with the cosmos. To name virtues is not to define them, but to live them is to know them. Virtue is not mere knowledge nor yet wisdom but rather the reality of progressive experience in the attainment of ascending levels of cosmic achievement. In the day-by-day life of mortal man, virtue is realized by the consistent choosing of good rather than evil, and such choosing ability is evidence of the possession of a moral nature. (193.6) 16:7.7 Man’s choosing between good and evil is influenced, not only by the keenness of his moral nature, but also by such influences as ignorance, immaturity, and delusion. A sense of proportion is also concerned in the exercise of virtue because evil may be perpetrated when the lesser is chosen in the place of the greater as a result of distortion or deception. The art of relative estimation or comparative measurement enters into the practice of the virtues of the moral realm. (193.7) 16:7.8 Man’s moral nature would be impotent without the art of measurement, the discrimination embodied in his ability to scrutinize meanings. Likewise would moral choosing be futile without that cosmic insight which yields the consciousness of spiritual values. From the standpoint of intelligence, man ascends to the level of a moral being because he is endowed with personality. (193.8) 16:7.9 Morality can never be advanced by law or by force. It is a personal and freewill matter and must be disseminated by the contagion of the contact of morally fragrant persons with those who are less morally responsive, but who are also in some measure desirous of doing the Father’s will. (193.9) 16:7.10 Moral acts are those human performances which are characterized by the highest


intelligence, directed by selective discrimination in the choice of superior ends as well as in the selection of moral means to attain these ends. Such conduct is virtuous. Supreme virtue, then, is wholeheartedly to choose to do the will of the Father in heaven. Anonymous Coward User ID: 965043

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Continuing Paper 16, on the Master Spirits. This is a wondrous paper. It has been a joy to me to

revisit it since I posted on the thread mentioned above. Continue to enjoy. 8. Urantia Personality (194.1) 16:8.1 The Universal Father bestows personality upon numerous orders of beings as they function on diverse levels of universe actuality. Urantia human beings are endowed with personality of the finite-mortal type, functioning on the level of the ascending sons of God. (194.2) 16:8.2 Though we can hardly undertake to define personality, we may attempt to narrate our understanding of the known factors which go to make up the ensemble of material, mental, and spiritual energies whose interassociation constitutes the mechanism wherein and whereon and wherewith the Universal Father causes his bestowed personality to function. (Candace: a reminder that the biggy contribution of the Universal Father, FIRST SOURCE or Source to some of you, IS PERSONALITY. ) (194.3) 16:8.3 Personality is a unique endowment of original nature whose existence is independent of, and antecedent to, the bestowal of the Thought Adjuster. Nevertheless, the presence of the Adjuster does augment the qualitative manifestation of personality. Thought Adjusters, when they come forth from the Father, are identical in nature, but personality is diverse, original, and exclusive; and the manifestation of personality is further conditioned and qualified by the nature and qualities of the associated energies of a material, mindal, and spiritual nature which constitute the organismal vehicle for personality manifestation.

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(194.4) 16:8.4 Personalities may be similar, but they are never the same. Persons of a given series, type, order, or pattern may and do resemble one another, but they are never identical. Personality is that feature of an individual which we know, and which enables us to identify such a being at some future time regardless of the nature and extent of changes in form, mind, or spirit status. Personality is that part of any individual which enables us to recognize and positively identify that person as the one we have previously known, no matter how much he may have changed because of the modification of the vehicle of expression and manifestation of his personality. (Candace: Beloveds this is WHY when you run into some people, you recognize them as an old soul from a previous encounter somewhere in time. many of us have found others we know from elsewhere. Let you intuition lead you on this one, for it is SO. We sometimes call these ones "soul mates." I have met several folks on the internet since I became public with AH, that I know I know them from someplace! There is such resonance, and a great joy to me in this work when it happens. ) (194.5) 16:8.5 Creature personality is distinguished by two self-manifesting and characteristic phenomena of mortal reactive behavior: self-consciousness and associated relative free will. (194.6) 16:8.6 Self-consciousness consists in intellectual awareness of personality actuality; it includes the ability to recognize the reality of other personalities. It indicates capacity for individualized experience in and with cosmic realities, equivalating to the attainment of identity status in the personality relationships of the universe. Self-consciousness connotes recognition of the actuality of mind ministration and the realization of relative independence of creative and determinative free will. (194.7) 16:8.7 The relative free will which characterizes the self-consciousness of human personality is involved in: (194.8) 16:8.8 1. Moral decision, highest wisdom. (194.9) 16:8.9 2. Spiritual choice, truth discernment. (194.10) 16:8.10 3. Unselfish love, brotherhood service. (194.11) 16:8.11 4. Purposeful co-operation, group loyalty. (194.12) 16:8.12 5. Cosmic insight, the grasp of universe meanings. (194.13) 16:8.13 6. Personality dedication, wholehearted devotion to doing the Father’s will. (195.1) 16:8.14 7. Worship, the sincere pursuit of divine values and the wholehearted love of the divine Value-Giver. (195.2) 16:8.15 The Urantia type of human personality may be viewed as functioning in a physical mechanism consisting of the planetary modification of the Nebadon type of organism belonging to the electrochemical order of life activation and endowed with the Nebadon order of the Orvonton series of the cosmic mind of parental reproductive pattern. The bestowal of the divine gift of personality upon such a mind-endowed mortal mechanism confers the dignity of cosmic citizenship and enables such a mortal creature forthwith to become reactive to the constitutive recognition of the three basic mind realities of the cosmos: (195.3) 16:8.16 1. The mathematical or logical recognition of the uniformity of physical causation. (195.4) 16:8.17 2. The reasoned recognition of the obligation of moral conduct. (195.5) 16:8.18 3. The faith-grasp of the fellowship worship of Deity, associated with the loving service of humanity. (195.6) 16:8.19 The full function of such a personality endowment is the beginning realization of Deity kinship. Such a selfhood, indwelt by a prepersonal fragment of God the


Father, is in truth and in fact a spiritual son of God. Such a creature not only discloses capacity for the reception of the gift of the divine presence but also exhibits reactive response to the personality-gravity circuit of the Paradise Father of all personalities. Candace: Dear ones, This was a teaching of Michael of Nebadon when he was here that has been negated in christianity at least. I cannot speak for Islam and other religions. He taught that his FATHER WAS ALSO YOUR FATHER, and YOU ARE A SON OF THAT SAME FATHER. How sad that this is negated and "Jesus" as made into the one and only Son of God. If you have personality, and the ability to reason, dream, desire you are in fact a Son of that very Same FATHER, as is Michael of Nebadon. This MAKES Michael of Nebadon YOUR BROTHER, besides his being Father of Nebadon. And he is returned and he loves you all both with Fatherly Love and Brotherly Love. And I remind you, that while a Bestowal Son of Avonal or Michael Order, will visit all advancing planets in time, he will also return when and if that Planet enters Light and life for a short visit of celebration. But here on Earth, we have the return of Michael of Nebadon ( in 1954 and continuing), and we are NOT even close yet to Light and LIfe. Beloveds, this is UNIQUE as this has NEVER been done before, a Creator Son has never returned as a BROTHER to see his bestowal planet thru the trials coming up, personally. And he will remain here at least until we enter Light and Life. And perhaps longer. He simply says, as long as he is needed. THIS IS NEW and THIS PLANET is specially BLESSED and you live in an exciting time to be here, whether you are an evolving soul on this world, one of the crowd that followed Lucifer, or you are here for advanced service and learning. We are treading NEW GROUND quite litterally. TAKE GREAT INTEREST in this, for you have such special opportunity and many of you don't know that!

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Last section of the wondrous paper 16. 9. Reality of Human Consciousness (195.7) 16:9.1 The cosmic-mind-endowed, Adjuster-indwelt, personal creature possesses innate recognition-realization of energy reality, mind reality, and spirit reality. The will creature is thus equipped to discern the fact, the law, and the love of God. Aside from these three inalienables of human consciousness, all human experience is really subjective except that intuitive realization of validity attaches to the unification of these three universe reality responses of cosmic recognition. (195.8) 16:9.2 The God-discerning mortal is able to sense the unification value of these three cosmic qualities in the evolution of the surviving soul, man’s supreme undertaking in the physical tabernacle where the moral mind collaborates with the indwelling divine spirit to dualize the immortal soul. From its earliest inception the soul is real; it has cosmic survival qualities. (195.9) 16:9.3 If mortal man fails to survive natural death, the real spiritual values of his human experience survive as a part of the continuing experience of the Thought Adjuster. (Father Fragment-Candace). The personality values of such a nonsurvivor persist as a factor in the personality of the actualizing Supreme Being. Such persisting qualities of personality are deprived of identity but not of experiential values accumulated during the mortal life in the flesh. The survival of identity is dependent on the survival of the immortal soul of morontia status and increasingly divine value. Personality identity survives in and by the survival of the soul. (195.10) 16:9.4 Human self-consciousness implies the recognition of the reality of selves other than the conscious self and further implies that such awareness is mutual; that the self is known as it knows. This is shown in a purely human manner in man’s social life. But you cannot become so absolutely certain of a fellow being’s reality as you can of the reality of the presence of God that lives within you. The social consciousness is not inalienable like the God-consciousness; it is a cultural development and is dependent on knowledge, symbols, and the contributions of the constitutive endowments of man — science, morality, and religion. And these cosmic gifts, socialized, constitute civilization. (196.1) 16:9.5 Civilizations are unstable because they are not cosmic; they are not innate in the individuals of the races. They must be nurtured by the combined contributions of the constitutive factors of man — science, morality, and religion. Civilizations come and go, but science, morality, and religion always survive the crash.




(196.2) 16:9.6 Jesus not only revealed God to man, but he also made a new revelation of man to himself and to other men. In the life of Jesus you see man at his best. Man thus becomes so beautifully real because Jesus had so much of God in his life, and the realization (recognition) of God is inalienable and constitutive in all men. (196.3) 16:9.7 Unselfishness, aside from parental instinct, is not altogether natural; other persons are not naturally loved or socially served. It requires the enlightenment of reason, morality, and the urge of religion, God-knowingness, to generate an unselfish and altruistic social order. Man’s own personality awareness, self-consciousness, is also directly dependent on this very fact of innate other-awareness, this innate ability to recognize and grasp the reality of other personality, ranging from the human to the divine. (196.4) 16:9.8 Unselfish social consciousness must be, at bottom, a religious consciousness; that is, if it is objective; otherwise it is a purely subjective philosophic abstraction and therefore devoid of love. Only a God-knowing individual can love another person as he loves himself. (196.5) 16:9.9 Self-consciousness is in essence a communal consciousness: God and man, Father and son, Creator and creature. In human self-consciousness four universe-reality realizations are latent and inherent: (196.6) 16:9.10 1. The quest for knowledge, the logic of science. (196.7) 16:9.11 2. The quest for moral values, the sense of duty. (196.8) 16:9.12 3. The quest for spiritual values, the religious experience. (196.9) 16:9.13 4. The quest for personality values, the ability to recognize the reality of God as a personality and the concurrent realization of our fraternal relationship with fellow personalities. (196.10) 16:9.14 You become conscious of man as your creature brother because you are already conscious of God as your Creator Father. Fatherhood is the relationship out of which we reason ourselves into the recognition of brotherhood. And Fatherhood becomes, or may become, a universe reality to all moral creatures because the Father has himself bestowed personality upon all such beings and has encircuited them within the grasp of the universal personality circuit. We worship God, first, because he is, then, because he is in us, and last, because we are in him. (196.11) 16:9.15 Is it strange that the cosmic mind should be self-consciously aware of its own source, the infinite mind of the Infinite Spirit, and at the same time conscious of the physical reality of the far-flung universes, the spiritual reality of the Eternal Son, and the personality reality of the Universal Father? (196.12) 16:9.16 [Sponsored by a Universal Censor from Uversa.] (Candace: Uversa is the Capital World of Orvonton, SuperUniverse #7. The Milky Way is the Core Galaxy of Orvonton, but is not all of it. Nebadon, our local universe is part of Orvonton. Orvonton has 100,000 local universes. Michael of Nebadon, is the Creator Son of Nebadon. His parents are the Father and the Eternal Son. He is "partnered" with Mother Nebadon, our Daughter of the Infinite Spirit. Thus thru Michael of Nebadon and Nebadonia, so does the Trinity have representation to Nebadon. ) Candace: I once wrote a short commentary teaching for clerics, all of them. We never got to send out that letter, the timing did not mature, but at the simplest, I taught that:


Father is the SOURCE of all The Eternal Son is Spirit The Infinite Spirit is MIND. Now all of this is over simplified, but one has to start somewhere to understand the Trinity. The Infinite Spirit has Sons called the Master Spirits, One for each of the Seven Superuniverses. The MIND of each Superuniverse's Master Spirit IS the sum total of all the COSMIC Mind of of that Superuniverse. The Infinite Spirit also has daughters, called the Mother Spirits of the Local Universes, who bring thus the Infinite Spirit to the Local Universes of their domains. That is WHERE YOU START in your understanding of the 3d Person of the Trinity. You in Christianity at least have been greatly confused by the Trinity. All of it, because you didn't even get that the Father of Michael of Nebadon, (Jesus when he was here 2000 years ago), is also YOUR FATHER and YOU ARE HIS SON. This is the teaching MOST needed on this planet. That GOD IS YOUR FATHER AND YOU ARE HIS SON. Then after that, the next most important teaching, is That as HIS SON, he Expects YOU and PRovides for, you Way to BECOME LIKE HIM. That is his WILL, that you Become LIKE HIM. As as you take your cosmic journey, your ascension journey, into knowing, so shall you become more and more like HIM.

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United States 7/17/2011 7:17 PM NIP, your familiarity with the UB is impressive. It takes several readings in it's entirety to get a more complete grasp of the overall message.



However, don't you think the UB has an unnatural bias that is too 'pro-Melchizidek?' With respect to the 2nd rebellion to occur in Nebadon, the fallen System Sovereign readily admitted that Christ Michael was an effective administrator, but yet refused to admit his errors, which is to say, he did what he thought right and was adamant about it. Yet, there is no mention of what his actions really were. It seemed rigged. Also, it seems that these 'annihilation decrees' only ended up with a worse rebellion later. All mention of 'eternal judgment/damnation' are not found in the UB quotations of Christ's preaching. What gives??



If anyone is interested, while I was looking for another UB thread, I found this one, with a collection of the thoughts to ponder, if you would enjoy that. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Anonymous Coward User ID: 1174439

United States 7/27/2011 1:03 AM whoever wrote your urantia book obviously read the bhagavad gita and paraphrased all those quotes. looks like im going to read urantia now









whoever wrote your urantia book obviously read the bhagavad gita and paraphrased all those quotes. looks like im going to read urantia now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1174439 no beloved the UB was given entirely from a bunch of hosts of heaven, but there has been material previously given to earth in other ways. There are folks who have been given considerably better information than the bible. I have not personally read the bhagavad gita, one day I should I suppose for the background I have heard about in it. enjoy Urantia.



I have trouble with knowing we live in a part of the super universe called Satania. I have had to skip thru the first third of it because I can not relate to the heavenly superstructure and it's principalities. I do like the rebellion part and have not got to the Jesus part but am interested to read what it has to say. not dissin your thread, just sayn' it is hard for me to read and to relate to things I know nothing about. Quoting: Douglass Fir well to know something about them, keep working at it. I have often said of the UB, read what you CAN understand and go from there. It is not necessary to read start to back. I am about to post




something about the architectural worlds, that will provide the ability to envision something of them! There is more and more new art coming from folks with wondrous memories of how it is. The concepts are difficult in the first 1/3 for people who have been so very little of what the creation and "heaven" is. Heaven IS the cosmos. That first third is really in part about the government and management of such. I think you will enjoy much of the Jesus part and that is also a place you can skip around! This is not a book to digest in a short time. The concepts grow as you progress. I am open to questions here and perhaps can make it more real. Try me out, I

need the experience! The book has GOOD sections on how other worlds do things, lots of social commentaries and the

like. Pick anything that sounds interesting and work from there.



I see another question above I forgot about and will answer later. For now, here is a new art site I found, with a stunning image of a world being built, or the inside of one, not sure. This could help you ones with the concept of the artchitectural "heaven" worlds! I just posted these links on my site. I will repeat Gary Tonge's image of building sphere worlds also, at the end of this. Hi all, I have posted Gary tonge's image of architectural world building. here is one by another artist. [link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] This shows in internal heating system. Enlarge it. Phoenix 6's Gallery. LOTS OF STUFF [link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] [link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] This talk about a race traveling in "stasis" for a long period of time. The reason I bring this up, is that this world is going into a stasis, which is a suspension of



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life during which many things will occur. In this image, this is about some people putting them selves into stasis for some very long travel. I think the concept regards as space travel has been suggested in various sci fi movies. [link to phoenix-06.deviantart.com] Shows how systems can be created also, and provided energy. Folks show your friends these things, because we need to people to look upward towards the possibilities. Clicking on this link will bring up several artists. Click on the pics to take youself to their websites. That is how I found the Phoenix-06 above. [link to creativefan.com] Ok Gary Tonge's sphere worlds being built in a Nebula. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com]

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Hi NIP! happy belated birthday. Send me you birth data time, place etc. and I will send you your Astrology chart - if you wish it. You know, I have read a lot of the old Edgar Cayce books that my dad left to me and it was pretty cool to find out recently that Monjoronson was his "source" and I have also seen many other references to Cayce having also been Thoth, previously. My two favorite books are "The Origin and Destiny of Man" and "The Story of Jesus". Also went back and re-read Ruth Montgomery's "The World Before", and recently read the book "We are the Nibiruans" by Jelilah Starr. Then, I started pairing up dates and events compiled in the aforementioned as well as some of the early Billy Meier material with the Urantia Book. Wow, many pieces starting to come together regarding Atlantis and Anunnaki, and the Midwayers. I am still putting things together on this and wonder if you would be interested in the findings. The Midwayers were a bit tough to sort out, but after I did a bit of family tree I think I am on to a whole new level of understanding. Hope all is well. PS - I posted another SILVERHAWK article from the recently posted PJ64 entitled "America the Cup of Light" cheers

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Thoughts of the Day #2 By UB "...materialism, atheism, is the maximation of ugliness, the climax of the finite antithesis of the beautiful. "(646.3) 56:10.4 "Ethical obligations are innate, divine, and universal."(616.3) 54:4.4 "A display of specialized skill does not signify possession of spiritual capacity. Cleverness is not a substitute for true character." (556.2) 48:7.3 "Science lives by the mathematics of the mind; music expresses the tempo of the emotions. Religion is the spiritual rhythm of the soul in harmony with the higher and eternal melody measurements of Infinity." (2080.5) 195:7.20 "Joshua ben Joseph, the Jewish baby,( ? ) was conceived and was born into the world just as all other babies before and since except that this particular baby was the incarnation of Michael of Nebadon, a divine Son of Paradise and the creator of all this local universe of things and beings." (Candace: there were NO JEWS back then, but the UB folks chose to go with the false additions to the bible since the late 1800's. there were Hebrews, Semites, Judeans, but NO JEWS. This is because the Khazar Zionists adopted the talmud in 700+AD and then created the word JEW in 1700+ AD for themselves. They originated in MONGOLIA and we never from that land. they stole what is called Israel today and are seeking to steal most of the Middle East from those that live there. ) (1317.1) 119:7.5 "God is inherently kind, naturally compassionate, and everlastingly merciful. And never is it necessary that any influence be brought to bear upon the Father to call forth his loving-kindness.



(38.2) 2:4.2 "Though man cannot encompass the significance of infinity, the infinite Father does most certainly fully comprehend and lovingly embrace all the finity of all his children in all universes. (35.3) 2:1.10 "To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion. And this is just why the God of worship claims all allegiance or none." (1124.3) 102:6.1 "You were truly among the least of all creation until Michael's bestowal elevated your planet to a position of honor and great universe interest. Sometimes the last is first, while truly the least becomes greatest." (466.4) 41:10.5 "It is a mystery that God is a highly personal self-conscious being with residential headquarters, and at the same time personally present in such a vast universe and personally in contact with such a well-nigh infinite number of beings." (139.1) 12:7.12 "Excepting perfect beings of Deity origin, (angels-C) all will creatures in the superuniverses are of evolutionary nature, beginning in lowly estate and climbing ever upward, in reality inward." (361.3) 32:3.8 (Candace: Will creatures are thinking creatures, that can see (plan) a bit ahead of themselves.) "A social group of human beings in co-ordinated working harmony stands for a force far greater than the simple sum of its parts."(1477.1) 133:5.6 "The spirit is the creative reality; the physical counterpart is the time-space reflection of the spirit reality, the physical repercussion of the creative action of spirit-mind." (484.2) 42:12.14 "Human personality is the time-space image-shadow cast by the divine Creator personality...Shadows should be interpreted in terms of the true substance." (29.7) 1:6.1 "The material mind of mortal man is the cosmic loom that carries the morontia fabrics on which the indwelling Thought Adjuster threads the spirit patterns of a universe character of enduring values and divine meanings - a surviving soul of ultimate destiny and unending career, a potential finaliter." (1217.6) 111:2.2 "The religionist of faith believes in a God who fosters survival, the Father in heaven, the God of love." (68.6) 5:5.3


"As Jesus worked on your world as the carpenter's son, so do other Paradise Sons labor in various capacities on their bestowal planets. You could hardly think of a vocation that has not been followed by some Paradise Son in the course of his bestowal on some one of the planets of time."(229.2) 20:6.3 "Natural, physical death is not a mortal inevitability. The majority of advanced evolutionary beings, citizens on worlds existing in the final era of light and life, do not die; they are translated directly from the life in the flesh to the morontia existence."(623.1) 55:2.1 "...Things are time conditioned, but truth is timeless. The more truth you know, the more truth you are, the more of the past you can understand and of the future you can comprehend...." (1297.3) 118:3.2 "It may turn out, eventually, that mortal creatures hailing from the worlds quarantined in consequence of rebellion are extremely fortunate " (578.6) 50:7.1 "A lasting social system without a morality predicated on spiritual realities can no more be maintained than could the solar system without gravity." (Candace: study this, because man of this civilization has NOT created a social system of morality yet, in fact it's getting worse. this cannot be maintained, and is moving into self destruction.) (2075.12) 195:5.9 "As the years passed, this young carpenter of Nazareth increasingly measured every institution of society and every usage of religion by the unvarying test: What does it do for the human soul ? does it bring God to man ? does it bring man to God ?" (please dear readers, look at all these systems and asked yourself, how do they serve the above? MOST do not and we are in serious doo doo because of such. To wish to be part of the force that will transform this world, you must study these things, from the above perspective, so that you KNOW what needs to be transformed.)(1388.5) 126:2.5 "When my children once become self-conscious of the assurance of the divine presence, such a faith will expand the mind, ennoble the soul, reinforce the personality, augment the happiness, deepen the spirit perception, and enhance the power to love and be loved." The Teachings of Jesus, (1766.8) 159:3.12 "Regardless of appearances, the power of God is not functioning in the universe as a blind force" (good one to ponder if you are "waiting" on God and starfeet to do it all.) (47.4) 3:2.6 "Truth is relative and expanding; it lives always in the present, achieving new expression in each generation of men--even in each human life." (each human should be seeking an expansion of his truth, true knowing.) (888.1) 79:8.8 "All true prayers are addressed to spiritual beings, and all such petitions must be answered in spiritual terms, and all such answers must consist in spiritual realities."The Teachings of Jesus,


(1848.9) 168:4.9 "Even though the personality of the Universal Father can be grasped only in actual religious experience, in Jesus' earth life we are inspired by the perfect demonstration of such a realization and revelation of the personality of God in a truly human experience." (candace: this is the importance of his life LIVED. He demonstrated THE WAY. And that remains totally misunderstood in corporate religion.)(30.7) 1:6.8 "Too often, all too often, you mar your minds by insincerity and sear them with unrighteousness; you subject them to animal fear and distort them by useless anxiety."(103.5) 9:5.7 "Curiosity-the spirit of investigation, the urge of discovery, the drive of exploration-is a part of the inborn and divine endowment of evolutionary space creatures." (160.1) 14:5.11 "Gravity is the omnipotent strand on which are strung the gleaming stars, blazing suns, and whirling spheres which constitute the universal physical adornment of the eternal God, who is all things, fills all things, and in whom all things consist. " (125.4) 11:8.1 www.urantia.org Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 08/28/2011 10:46 AM Anonymous Coward User ID: 1524690

United States 08/28/2011 11:37 AM It hurts my heart to see this because earlier I tired to start a thread where messages where posted to give people hope and understanding. I was attacked by many people because even the religionists couldn't comprehend what was being said. Then i was attacked by unknown people who posted threatening messages on my thread to scare people. False messages. I have a hard copy of the UB,To me it tells me the truth that I have searching for for years. But My entire faith in people and everything has been destroyed. To see the thread I started attacked and destroyed hurts me and then somebody else taking credit for me trying to open up peoples minds by my posting simple messages that were directly quoted from the UB. It breaks my heart because i was trying to do a good thing to give people hope even if it was a little thing. Jamesbo User ID: 1509821





Nuggets of the phrases of truth only capture the curious into finding out more for themselves, what the meanings are. It does not matter who posted it first as the UB has been in print for 56 years. The UB came in stealthfully. I did not discover it until 2 years ago, that we even had a copy of it on our shelf. As I came to read it first in pieces, it was hard to read, confusing new concepts introduced, strange beings and "tribes" such as Nodites, Andites, Vandites - it take commitment to read the thing. Readers of the UB have always been laughed at, written off, by those who are either too ignorant to understand or accept the written word or are too influenced by their religion that any other source would have a better version of the truth. Those ones were perhaps already too-programmed by their upbringing, handed a different play book of accepted truth, a different sheet of music to read, and unwilling or too distracted in "survival mode" to take the time to see if it offers anything at all. It offers a knowing about the cosmos, earth history, celestial DNA dispersal, universal government, ascension progression, and insight into the time of Immanuel-Christ Michael, how to be. It takes time, persistence and desire to continue to prove to each individual, on their own, to find out if UB is real or not as a book of truth. Just a little bit of desire is all it takes. For me, the ride on that great "train of truth" gives me one thing: Wisdom. As the understanding goes up, the "fear of the unknown" goes down. For the UB, the only thing that matters is IF you read it enough to understand it. That said, don't be so easily derailed from your effort to post. Riding the train of truth is not easy in this world of deceptive bends; there are many stops along the way, some get off the track for a bit but you can always get back on the train at any time, even if someone derails you. Post some more of your own UB wisdom for it belongs to no one person as "the source". And get a clue from NIP who blows past the detractors unmoved by scare tactics. Get a GLP membership and you can control your own thread as intended. That UB train of truth keeps on going but you cannot quit so easily. The more you read the easier it is to understand what is being presented until the light bulb flickers to true knowing wattage. I think it is an awesome compilation, a backbone for the truths of creation, the cosmos, Earth history, and who Jesus really was. The UB delivers much however, it still leaves out many things that continue to be learned such as Lemuria and Atlantis, the frequency fence(s), the off-world colonizers, the long battle with the dark cabal. More and more is being revealed now, allowing for more and more knowing. In the end it is not who leads to horse to water, it is who drinks from the well and actually gets their thirst quenched. Anyway, I had another question to ask NIP but I couldn't help respond to you post. So sit up straight, stop sulking, and get back on the train. Last Edited by Jamesbo on 08/30/2011 11:40 PM Nobody in Particular (OP) Paradise Citizen attempting to reduce BLING




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08/31/2011 02:36 PM

It hurts my heart to see this because earlier I tired to start a thread where messages where posted to give people hope and understanding. I was attacked by many people because even the religionists couldn't comprehend what was being said. Then i was attacked by unknown people who posted threatening messages on my thread to scare people. False messages. I have a hard copy of the UB,To me it tells me the truth that I have searching for for years. But My entire faith in people and everything has been destroyed. To see the thread I started attacked and destroyed hurts me and then somebody else taking credit for me trying to open up peoples minds by my posting simple messages that were directly quoted from the UB. It breaks my heart because i was trying to do a good thing to give people hope even if it was a little thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1524690 Well beloved AC I am sorry for your experience and many of us experience the same. I would love it if you would like to post in this one, because you see, I MONITOR IT and contemptible posts will be removed! I don't check the thread every day but when I am here, if there are annoying comments, they will get the eject button. Trinity made a very wise decision to allow us paid gold star members to monitor our own threads. there are many who do appreciate this thread, and it gives them a taste of the book which is why I created the thread and the title. I am about to post a bit myself, I should do this more often, but I get caught up in those other places trying to teach. For those that do not wish to wade thru the whole book, these nuggets are still useful. PLEASE PLEASE feel free to share your favorite portions here. The thread is already 8 pages long, do not worry about if something is already here, it bears repeating. PLease do place the link back to the UB so those that get green brownie points for copyright violations can't cause trouble. If you are posting from www.urantia.org at least, the paper and page numbers are automatically

included, But I often state the paper number and title.


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Here is a collection of short comments about the Father Fragment (thought adjuster) within you from Paper 1206, Relation of Adjusters to Individuals. [link to www.urantia.org] (1203.1) 110:0.1 THE endowment of imperfect beings with freedom entails inevitable tragedy, and it is the nature of the perfect ancestral Deity to universally and affectionately share these sufferings in loving companionship. (1203.2) 110:0.2 As far as I am conversant with the affairs of a universe, I regard the love and devotion of a Thought Adjuster as the most truly divine affection in all creation. The love of the Sons in their ministry to the races is superb, but the devotion of an Adjuster to the individual is touchingly sublime, divinely Fatherlike. The Paradise Father has apparently reserved this form of personal contact with his individual creatures as an exclusive Creator prerogative. And there is nothing in all the universe of universes exactly comparable to the marvelous ministry of these impersonal entities that so fascinatingly indwell the children of the evolutionary planets. Candace: I am going to do a bit of teaching here as to the construction of this impersonal adjuster. it is a piece of the Father's Mind, these are created. while MIND is non physical, what Knowledge must be stored on something, like such as the hard drive of your computer. Now your morontial soul knowledge is stored on electrons, and this is sometimes in new age called the astral or etheric form, the names are all over the place, so not to worry. The UB talks of how you one day become a spirit being, with your graduation from the local universe. You become a spirit being, when you have transferred what you KNOW that is truth to PHOTONS. Electrons will store anything,, all sorts of lies and wrong knowledge. As you clear your



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"karma" , of your morontial soul, these electrons "crash" together and make photons. Photons ONLY carry truth AND they hold a lot more than electrons do. Now the Father Fragment (I like that term better than "thought adjuster", which was chosen to enable the book to be published), is composed completely of photons, just loaded up with good stuff. It does more than that though, which you will see in another segment. So when you graduate the local universe of origin you are a spirit being because your knowledge is all correct to that point and stored on your own photons plus what your Father Fragment has provided you. Karma is not understood on this planet, it means most correctly the false stuff you have assumed was truth, and which must be corrected to Truth. You already know now important the photon and electrons are to carry information because we have PHONES and INTERNET. The land line phone carries the information on electrons. And if you have internet, you know how limiting your dial up service can be! This is why fiber optic cable is being laid to conduct photons which HOLD a LOT MORE INFORMATION in a lot less space, so there is your "proof" of my above statements. An electron is mighty though, it can hold 3G's. yes 3 G's. If you have a 240 G harddrive, what is on it could be stored on 80 electrons and in the higher realms and on more mature planets, the computers are ALIVE and use photons in fact, instead of the digital ones we have now. Imagine the possibilities, and if you are an old soul star seed here, this should spark a memory of those computers. Ok another addition to this post, and maybe I will make another because thi sone will already be long. (1203.3) 110:1.1Adjusters should not be thought of as living in the material brains of human beings. They are not organic parts of the physical creatures of the realms. The Thought Adjuster may more properly be envisaged as indwelling the mortal mind of man rather than as existing within the confines of a single physical organ. And indirectly and unrecognized the Adjuster is constantly communicating with the human subject, especially during those sublime experiences of the worshipful contact of mind with spirit in the superconsciousness. (1205.5) 110:3.1 Adjusters are playing the sacred and superb game of the ages; they are engaged in one of the supreme adventures of time in space. And how happy they are when your co-operation permits them to lend assistance in your short struggles of time as they continue to prosecute their larger tasks of eternity. But usually, when your Adjuster attempts to communicate with you, the message is lost in the material currents of the energy streams of human mind; only occasionally do you catch an echo, a faint and distant echo, of the divine voice. (Man MUST learn meditation, for that is HOW your higher mind IS accessed. Meditation quiets the material mind. This is true if this is your first life, or if you are an old soul on duty here by incarnation.) (1207.1) 110:4.1 Adjusters are able to receive the continuous stream of cosmic intelligence coming in over the master circuits of time and space; they are in full touch with the spirit intelligence and energy of the universes. But these mighty indwellers are unable to transmit very much of this wealth of wisdom and truth to the minds of their mortal subjects because of the lack of commonness of nature and the absence of responsive recognition. (Candace: this is another function that I alluded to above, besides just being a collection of photons loaded with data.) (1207.2) 110:4.2 The Thought Adjuster is engaged in a constant effort so to spiritualize your mind as to evolve your morontia soul; but you yourself are mostly unconscious of this inner ministry. You are quite incapable of distinguishing the product of your own material intellect from that of the conjoint activities of your soul and the Adjuster.


(1207.3) 110:4.3 Certain abrupt presentations of thoughts, conclusions, and other pictures of mind are sometimes the direct or indirect work of the Adjuster; but far more often they are the sudden emergence into consciousness of ideas which have been grouping themselves together in the submerged mental levels, natural and everyday occurrences of normal and ordinary psychic function inherent in the circuits of the evolving animal mind. (In contrast with these subconscious emanations, the revelations of the Adjuster appear through the realms of the superconscious.) Candace: those ideas that break thru, often solutions, I call "Light bulb moments." If you get these, it's your adjuster sending it thru to you, again whether you are "new" or "old." Nobody in Particular (OP) the Age of Confusion is Fully Manifest. User ID: 2230535


from [link to www.urantia.org] (the women mentioned below are the 12 female apostles, and they of course could not preach in the synagogue) this piece is about a variety of human superstitions. and the star mentioned was NIBIRU. It is not due here at this time at all. -NIP (candace) 3. Sabbath at Tiberias (1680.3) 150:3.1 The Sabbath services of the apostolic party had been put in the hands of the women by Andrew, upon instructions from Jesus. This meant, of course, that they could not be held in the new synagogue. The women selected Joanna to have charge of this occasion, and the meeting was held in the banquet room of Herod’s new palace, Herod being away in residence at Julias in Perea. Joanna read from the Scriptures concerning woman’s work in the religious life of Israel, making reference to Miriam, Deborah, Esther, and others. (1680.4) 150:3.2 Late that evening Jesus gave the united group a memorable talk on “Magic and Superstition.” In those days the appearance of a bright and supposedly new star was regarded as a token indicating that a great man had been born on earth. Such a star having then recently been observed, Andrew asked Jesus if these beliefs were well founded. In the long answer to Andrew’s question the Master entered upon a thoroughgoing discussion of the whole subject of human superstition. The statement which Jesus made at this time may be summarized in modern phraseology as follows: (1680.5) 150:3.3 1. The courses of the stars in the heavens have nothing whatever to do with the events of human life on earth. Astronomy is a proper pursuit of science, but astrology is a mass of superstitious error which has no place in the gospel of the kingdom.


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(1680.6) 150:3.4 2. The examination of the internal organs of an animal recently killed can reveal nothing about weather, future events, or the outcome of human affairs. (1680.7) 150:3.5 3. The spirits of the dead do not come back to communicate with their families or their onetime friends among the living. (1681.1) 150:3.6 4. Charms and relics are impotent to heal disease, ward off disaster, or influence evil spirits; the belief in all such material means of influencing the spiritual world is nothing but gross superstition. (1681.2) 150:3.7 5. Casting lots, while it may be a convenient way of settling many minor difficulties, is not a method designed to disclose the divine will. Such outcomes are purely matters of material chance. The only means of communion with the spiritual world is embraced in the spirit endowment of mankind, the indwelling spirit of the Father, together with the outpoured spirit of the Son and the omnipresent influence of the Infinite Spirit. (1681.3) 150:3.8 6. Divination, sorcery, and witchcraft are superstitions of ignorant minds, as also are the delusions of magic. The belief in magic numbers, omens of good luck, and harbingers of bad luck, is pure and unfounded superstition. (1681.4) 150:3.9 7. The interpretation of dreams is largely a superstitious and groundless system of ignorant and fantastic speculation. The gospel of the kingdom must have nothing in common with the soothsayer priests of primitive religion. (1681.5) 150:3.10 8. The spirits of good or evil cannot dwell within material symbols of clay, wood, or metal; idols are nothing more than the material of which they are made. (1681.6) 150:3.11 9. The practices of the enchanters, the wizards, the magicians, and the sorcerers, were derived from the superstitions of the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, and the ancient Canaanites. Amulets and all sorts of incantations are futile either to win the protection of good spirits or to ward off supposed evil spirits. (1681.7) 150:3.12 10. He exposed and denounced their belief in spells, ordeals, bewitching, cursing, signs, mandrakes, knotted cords, and all other forms of ignorant and enslaving superstition. Jamesbo User ID: 2293683


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From PAPER 29: THE UNIVERSE POWER DIRECTORS 29:3.10 The power centers and their subordinate controllers are assigned to the working of all of the physical energies of organized space. They work with the three basic currents of ten energies each. That is the energy charge of organized space; and organized space is their domain. The Universe Power Directors have nothing whatever to do with those tremendous actions of force which are now taking place outside the present boundaries of the seven superuniverses. Nobody in Particular (OP) the Age of Confusion is Fully Manifest. User ID: 2230535


Sone more Thoughts to Ponder from the UB. www.urantia.org "There really is a true and genuine inner voice, that 'true light which lights every man who comes into the world.' " (1104.3) 101:0.3 ******************** "From generation to generation this gospel must show increasing vitality and exhibit greater depth of spiritual power." The Teachings of Jesus, (1931.6) 178:1.15 ********************* "The argumentative defense of any proposition is inversely proportional to the truth contained." (557.14) 48:7.30 *********************** "If we know God, our real business on earth is so to live as to permit the Father to reveal himself in our lives..." Jesus, (1466.2) 132:7.2 ***************** "Moral convictions based on spiritual enlightenment and rooted in human experience are just as real and certain as mathematical deductions based on physical observations, but on another and higher level."



(2077.8) 195:6.12 **************** "Kingdom believers should possess an implicit faith, a whole-souled belief, in the certain triumph of righteousness." (1739.7) 156:5.12 *************** "Jesus swept away all of the ceremonials of sacrifice and atonement. He destroyed the basis of all this fictitious guilt and sense of isolation in the universe by declaring that man is a child of God; the creature-Creator relationship was placed on a child-parent basis." (1133.4) 103:4.4 **************** "No personal creature can be coerced into the eternal adventure; the portal of eternity opens only in response to the freewill choice of the freewill sons of the God of free will." (71.7) 5:6.12 ***************** "Are you becoming increasingly artistic in your technique of leading hungry souls into the spiritual kingdom?" The Teachings of Jesus, (1740.2) 156:5.15 **************************** "...the concept of the divine personality can be grasped only by the spiritual insight of genuine personal religious experience" (30.3) 1:6.4 ****************** "Believers must increasingly learn how to step aside from the rush of life-escape the harassments of material existence-while they refresh the soul, inspire the mind, and renew the spirit by worshipful communion." The Teachings of Jesus, (1739.7) 156:5.12 **************** "Even though the spirit of a Son be poured out upon all flesh, even though a Son once dwelt with you in the likeness of mortal flesh, even though the seraphim personally guard and guide you, how can any of these divine beings...ever hope to come as near to you or to understand you as fully as the Father, who has given a part of himself to be in you, to be your real and divine, even your eternal, self?"


(139.3) 12:7.14 ************** "It is increasingly the belief of all Uversa that the assembling Corps of the Finality are destined to some future service in the universes of outer space, where we already are able to identify the clustering of at least seventy thousand aggregations of matter, each of which is greater than any one of the present superuniverses. " Candace: I must add something to this. There are MANY on earth right now, pretending to be human, using a human body, who are in training for these future adventures, for the Finaliters are to become what the Descending Sons have been, more and more. At this time Christ MIchael is engaged in helping provide these experiences and is already using Finaliters in positions in his Universe. There are currently two Holding the hallowed stations of System Administrators. I am myself here for this purpose, my am a "creator son" wannabe so to speak and we even have young MIchael Son's here in training, some incarnate, others watching from above. The Teachings of Jesus, (1739.7) 156:5.12 *************** "The personalities and other-than-personal entities now functioning on Paradise and in the grand universe constitute a well-nigh limitless number of living beings." (330.1) 30:0.1 ************** "...I have many other sheep not of this fold, and these words are true not only of this world. These other sheep also hear and know my voice, and I have promised the Father that they shall all be brought into one fold, one brotherhood of the sons of God." Jesus, (1819.5) 165:2.9 ********************* "Why do you not allow the Adjuster to strengthen you with the spiritual truths of cosmic power while you wrestle with the temporal difficulties of creature existence?" Candace: the answer to this one, is RELIGION which causes man to consider himself separate from God. The christian religion does not contain this teaching, but it was well given. the only one that comes close are the quakers. (1223.5) 111:7.3 ******************* 'The enforced associations of family life stabilize personality and stimulate its growth through the compulsion of necessitous adjustment to other and diverse personalities." (Candace: Life itself forces growth of the mind! That is why these lower planets in the first place.) (942.1) 84:7.30 ****************


"Even on Urantia, these seraphim teach the everlasting truth: If your own mind does not serve you well, you can exchange it for the mind of Jesus of Nazareth, who always serves you well." (553.7) 48:6.26 ********************* "There sojourns within each moral being of this planet a fragment of God, a part and parcel of divinity. It is not yet yours by right of possession, but it is designedly intended to be one with you if you survive the mortal existence." Candace: this is the Father Fragment, /thought adjuster. It is an actual piece of the mind of the Father. It's purpose is for spiritual advice, and it is without a doubt, if you would allow it to be so, your best friend. (26.5) 1:4.3 ***************** "Religionists must function in society, in industry, and in politics as individuals, not as groups, parties, or institutions." (1087.6) 99:2.3 Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 10/08/2011 11:18 PM My personal teaching and commentary on GLP may be used freely anywhere. NIP (Candace) Nobody in Particular (OP) the Age of Confusion is Fully Manifest. User ID: 2230535


I would like to remind all of you who read the UB, that you are welcome to post your selections that are meaningful to you here. This provides introduction to ideas without ones having to read it all, but in so reading here, they may decide they want it! If not, the short pieces provide a great introduction to God.




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this is NOT a UB post obviously (but maybe some of you will remember this thread!) but it needs to be here. Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP Candace: This is a piece you need to send to everyone on your lists and your forums you participate on. Thru Hazel. A Father’s Plea- The Creator I come in this solitary moment to introduce MYSELF to those who do not know ME; to those who know of ME; to those who view me in a religious context; and to reinforce MY presence within those who do know ME. Times of great change loom auspiciously upon your earth plane and you of the human civilisation must come into the knowing of MY presence; hastily I might add. I AM the ONE you call GOD, Creator, Source, Universal Deity, Foremost intelligence, Ultimate



determiner, Final Judge and Adjudicator. It matters not the variation in title for I AM ONE and the same. I will simply refer to MYSELF as the Universal Father of ALL creation. Titles and names create distinctions and causes separation in one’s understanding as one seeks a God of his/her culture. Know that God is One and All is One and ONE is ALL. It is when you come to understand this simple truth that profound awareness will dawn. I come to affirm your status as sons and daughters of the light; for it is imperative at this juncture that you perceive yourself in light. Light is the quintessential you. That which darkens your world does not define you. Your body does not define you. Your earthly status does not define you. It is I the Creator of All, that defines you. I cannot be seen but that does not mean that I do not exist. I can be known and experienced from within; and that is more credible than seeing. Knowing is your proof; feeling is your rule of measure. The nature of ME is the nature of you and you must therefore call upon your understanding of ME to know yourself. I have many times brought the same message in different ways through different ones and I shall continue to do this until your immortal soul, which you are is allowed entrance into your physical mind to minister truth. Why do I endeavour with constancy and consistency to bring you truth? Simply my beloveds because you are MINE and I desire you to return home to ME. The route your take is of course your choice but I desire to see you placed on the path of knowing. Which father will leave his children unattended, without care or supreme love? I cannot see you continuously suffering and not endeavour to lead you out of turmoil. It is love which engenders MY effort. I can see what beholds your world presently. I know what is transpiring and what will fall upon thee. I come to assist the confused, to bring clarity that those who may doubt will accept ME once and for all; not blindly or because I say you should, but because you know you must. I am the living essence of truth within you. You can only find your truth there. I issue an invitation to you at this twelfth hour that has come upon the earth plane. Turn to ME; even if you never have before; turn to ME, call upon ME; not in challenge, but in need and love. I shall respond. What other choice do you have dear ones? This is my final bid to draw you into the fold using only truth and a promise of a brighter future. The purpose of your life at this very moment should be to discover ME with haste as the winds of change carry yet another cycle to completion; that the new and exciting tomorrow may be yielded for your earth. Many are now walking a tightrope with little balance left; so what say you? Will you not join the bandwagon of lighted beings and begin the most wondrous exploration of a new plane filled with knowledge and excitement for grander and purposeful living? The canopy of change has now descended. You need only look around your world to witness the great confusion and collapse materialising. Will you continue to deny what you face or what it portends for your world? Who is your likely salvation now? When all is crumbling around you, who


will you call upon? Can you save yourselves? From my vantage point I will offer a negative response. That which you face on your earth is beyond your control and that which is fortuitously taking place cosmically is also beyond your control. I wish to tell you MY plans for you but how many will hear and believe? How many of MY ones have you castigated and deemed mental? Well it is those very ones who are sane my beloved children. The ‘mental’ ones are the knowing ones; the ones who know MY truth and serve it. It would serve you well to rethink what you have heard from the voices of God. For these ones who bring truth are MY voice. I will not come again to you in this way. I take the bolder approach that you may hear without fear. Can you not hear the appeal through these MY words. Do not say after the event that the Father has deserted you or cast you aside. For the Father comes here and now to woo you back home. Will you hear and answer? For generations I have sent MY beloved sons to effort with you of earth plane. Now I come MYSELF. Will you still reject the ONE you say you love? Must I descend from the clouds for you to believe? I do not live up to false conceptions or beliefs; for I serve Truth, which I AM. I can only urge you to seek truth by listening to the voice within. You will not see ME my little ones, but you will know ME if you know truth for I am already here. I come not to create fear or feed your doubts. I come in truth only to tell you that your time on the earth has all but ended. Night is upon you now and some will never awaken to a blooming tomorrow. Take MY hand now for this is the final offer before the curtain falls. I AM THE CREATOR OF ALL THAT IS- MY SON WHO YOU KNOW AS THE CHRIST IS ONE WITH ME AND THERE IS NO DISTINCTION. YOU ARE ONE WITH ME FOR I CREATED YOU. I PROCLAIM THE VICTORY OF THE LIGHT. THE TIME FOR SEPARATION HAS COME. Hazel www.pathtofreedomistruth.com [link to abundanthope.net] This piece is under copyright protection of [link to www.abundanthope.net] It may be placed anywhere on the web as long as it is not changed in any way and a link placed back to this site. It is preferred you place the entire piece, and if not possible to do so, you must note that the rest of it can be found at the link. Thankyou, Candace. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1698091

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5. The Love of God (38.6) 2:5.1 “God is love”; therefore his only personal attitude towards the affairs of the universe is always a reaction of divine affection. The Father loves us sufficiently to bestow his life upon us. “He makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.” (39.1) 2:5.2 It is wrong to think of God as being coaxed into loving his children because of the sacrifices of his Sons or the intercession of his subordinate creatures, “for the Father himself loves you.” It is in response to this paternal affection that God sends the marvelous Adjusters to indwell the minds of men. God’s love is universal; “whosoever will may come.” He would “have all men be saved by coming into the knowledge of the truth.” He is “not willing that any should perish.” (39.2) 2:5.3 The Creators are the very first to attempt to save man from the disastrous results of his foolish transgression of the divine laws. God’s love is by nature a fatherly affection; therefore does he sometimes “chasten us for our own profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness.” Even during your fiery trials remember that “in all our afflictions he is afflicted with us.” (39.3) 2:5.4 God is divinely kind to sinners. When rebels return to righteousness, they are mercifully received, “for our God will abundantly pardon.” “I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.” “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God.” (39.4) 2:5.5 After all, the greatest evidence of the goodness of God and the supreme reason for loving him is the indwelling gift of the Father — the Adjuster who so patiently awaits the hour when you both shall be eternally made one. Though you cannot find God by searching, if you will submit to the leading of the indwelling spirit, you will be unerringly guided, step by step, life by life, through universe upon universe, and age by age, until you finally stand in the presence of the Paradise personality of the Universal Father. (39.5) 2:5.6 How unreasonable that you should not worship God because the limitations of human nature and the handicaps of your material creation make it impossible for you to see him. Between you and God there is a tremendous distance (physical space) to be traversed. There likewise exists a great gulf of spiritual differential which must be bridged; but notwithstanding all that physically and spiritually separates you from the Paradise personal presence of God, stop and ponder the solemn fact that God lives within you; he has in his own way already bridged the gulf. He has sent of himself, his spirit, to live in you and to toil with you as you pursue your eternal universe career. (39.6) 2:5.7 I find it easy and pleasant to worship one who is so great and at the same time so affectionately devoted to the uplifting ministry of his lowly creatures. I naturally love one who is so powerful in creation and in the control thereof, and yet who is so perfect in goodness and so faithful in the loving-kindness which constantly overshadows us. I think I would love God just as much if he were not so great and powerful, as long as he is so good and merciful. We all love the Father more because of his nature than in recognition of his amazing attributes. (39.7) 2:5.8 When I observe the Creator Sons and their subordinate administrators struggling so valiantly with the manifold difficulties of time inherent in the evolution of the universes of space, I discover that I bear these lesser rulers of the universes a great and profound affection. After all, I think we all, including the mortals of the realms, love the Universal Father and all other beings, divine or human, because we discern that these personalities truly love us. The experience of loving is very much a direct response to the experience of being loved. Knowing that God loves


me, I should continue to love him supremely, even though he were divested of all his attributes of supremacy, ultimacy, and absoluteness. (Candace: it was OUR Creator Son that came as "Jesus" to this world, one of many Sons of God who came to say you too, ARE A SON OF GOD. ) (40.1) 2:5.9 The Father’s love follows us now and throughout the endless circle of the eternal ages. As you ponder the loving nature of God, there is only one reasonable and natural personality reaction thereto: You will increasingly love your Maker; you will yield to God an affection analogous to that given by a child to an earthly parent; for, as a father, a real father, a true father, loves his children, so the Universal Father loves and forever seeks the welfare of his created sons and daughters. (40.2) 2:5.10 But the love of God is an intelligent and farseeing parental affection. The divine love functions in unified association with divine wisdom and all other infinite characteristics of the perfect nature of the Universal Father. God is love, but love is not God. The greatest manifestation of the divine love for mortal beings is observed in the bestowal of the Thought Adjusters, but your greatest revelation of the Father’s love is seen in the bestowal life of his Son Michael as he lived on earth the ideal spiritual life. It is the indwelling Adjuster who individualizes the love of God to each human soul. (40.3) 2:5.11 At times I am almost pained to be compelled to portray the divine affection of the heavenly Father for his universe children by the employment of the human word symbol love. This term, even though it does connote man’s highest concept of the mortal relations of respect and devotion, is so frequently designative of so much of human relationship that is wholly ignoble and utterly unfit to be known by any word which is also used to indicate the matchless affection of the living God for his universe creatures! How unfortunate that I cannot make use of some supernal and exclusive term which would convey to the mind of man the true nature and exquisitely beautiful significance of the divine affection of the Paradise Father. (40.4) 2:5.12 When man loses sight of the love of a personal God, the kingdom of God becomes merely the kingdom of good. Notwithstanding the infinite unity of the divine nature, love is the dominant characteristic of all God’s personal dealings with his creatures. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 12/22/2011 09:09 PM Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


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4. The Inner Life (1219.7) 111:4.1 Recognition is the intellectual process of fitting the sensory impressions received from the external world into the memory patterns of the individual. Understanding connotes that these recognized sensory impressions and their associated memory patterns have become integrated or organized into a dynamic network of principles. (1220.1) 111:4.2 Meanings are derived from a combination of recognition and understanding. Meanings are nonexistent in a wholly sensory or material world. Meanings and values are only perceived in the inner or supermaterial spheres of human experience. (1220.2) 111:4.3 The advances of true civilization are all born in this inner world of mankind. It is only the inner life that is truly creative. Civilization can hardly progress when the majority of the youth of any generation devote their interests and energies to the materialistic pursuits of the sensory or outer world. (1220.3) 111:4.4 The inner and the outer worlds have a different set of values. Any civilization is in jeopardy when three quarters of its youth enter materialistic professions and devote themselves to the pursuit of the sensory activities of the outer world. Civilization is in danger when youth neglect to interest themselves in ethics, sociology, eugenics, philosophy, the fine arts, religion, and cosmology. (1220.4) 111:4.5 Only in the higher levels of the superconscious mind as it impinges upon the spirit realm of human experience can you find those higher concepts in association with effective master patterns which will contribute to the building of a better and more enduring civilization. Personality is inherently creative, but it thus functions only in the inner life of the individual. (1220.5) 111:4.6 Snow crystals are always hexagonal in form, but no two are ever alike. Children conform to types, but no two are exactly alike, even in the case of twins. Personality follows types but is always unique. (1220.6) 111:4.7 Happiness and joy take origin in the inner life. You cannot experience real joy all by yourself. A solitary life is fatal to happiness. Even families and nations will enjoy life more if they share it with others. (1220.7) 111:4.8 You cannot completely control the external world — environment. It is the creativity of the inner world that is most subject to your direction because there your personality is so largely liberated from the fetters of the laws of antecedent causation. There is associated with personality a limited sovereignty of will. (1220.8) 111:4.9 Since this inner life of man is truly creative, there rests upon each person the responsibility of choosing as to whether this creativity shall be spontaneous and wholly haphazard or controlled, directed, and constructive. How can a creative imagination produce worthy children when the stage whereon it functions is already preoccupied by prejudice, hate, fears, resentments, revenge, and bigotries? (1220.9) 111:4.10 Ideas may take origin in the stimuli of the outer world, but ideals are born only in the creative realms of the inner world. Today the nations of the world are directed by men who have a superabundance of ideas, but they are poverty-stricken in ideals. That is the explanation of poverty, divorce, war, and racial hatreds. (1220.10) 111:4.11 This is the problem: If freewill man is endowed with the powers of creativity in


the inner man, then must we recognize that freewill creativity embraces the potential of freewill destructivity. And when creativity is turned to destructivity, you are face to face with the devastation of evil and sin — oppression, war, and destruction. Evil is a partiality of creativity which tends toward disintegration and eventual destruction. All conflict is evil in that it inhibits the creative function of the inner life — it is a species of civil war in the personality. (how many of you Christians right here on glp have supported Oppression, War, and destruction by the US of A, in the middle east just since 911? -NIP) (1221.1) 111:4.12 Inner creativity contributes to ennoblement of character through personality integration and selfhood unification. It is forever true: The past is unchangeable; only the future can be changed by the ministry of the present creativity of the inner self. Anonymous Coward User ID: 7569675

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United States 12/22/2011 10:28 PM Thoughts of the Day #2 By UB

Quoting: Nobody in Particular This is because the Khazar Zionists adopted the talmud in 700+AD and then created the word jewish in 1700+ AD for themselves. They originated in MONGOLIA and we never from that land. they stole what is called Israel today and are seeking to steal most of the Middle East from those that live there

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Mexico 12/22/2011 11:29 PM I'm sorry you completely lost my interest when you wrote the book was 'given' to this planet


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For those interested the "source" person of the UB, was a "sleeping prophet," similar to what Edgar Cayce did. Edgar Cayce did NOT source his own material, folks from the celestial realms came thru him, one of which was Monjoronson, our First Magisterial Avonal that IS on the planet now and in fact arrived about 1200 AD, and is behind bringing for the papers of the UB but did not make personal contributions to it. Stenographers wrote down the dictations coming thru the "sleeping prophet" during the years of collecting the material. These handwritten papers were then carefully checked only for spelling errors only, no rewriting otherwise was considered. Eventually they were formally published. Back then,, there were no tape recorders. No one ever knew the sleeping prophet, nor formally knew the stenographer either. Those of you who have explored any of Dolores Cannon's books, know that many from the celestial realms came thru her subjects which were under hypnosis. Also people's "higher selves" came thru some of the subjects, recording previous lives on this planet and elsewhere. I loved those works, which formed a portion of my preparation for what I do now. In addition to the Urantia Book, there has been additional of the promised revelation for these "end times." Dolores Cannon above was and is a part of the total process. Also the PHoenix Journals. Those of you who may have looked at them, the main author IS our returned Creator Son, Christ Michael, operating as a fleet commander, called "Hatonn/Aton". I am considering opening a 2nd thread JUST for the Phoenix Journals. that project started in 1987. The material was given not thru a sleeping prophet, but thru a fully awake person by radio signal from craft. Quoting: Nobody in Particular You should open a thread for the Phoenix Journals. Is there a web site? How do you know for sure that Yeshua is the author? Last Edited by carmenDi0xide on 12/23/2011 12:19 AM




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For those interested the "source" person of the UB, was a "sleeping prophet," similar to what Edgar Cayce did. Edgar Cayce did NOT source his own material, folks from the celestial realms came thru him, one of which was Monjoronson, our First Magisterial Avonal that IS on the planet now and in fact arrived about 1200 AD, and is behind bringing for the papers of the UB but did not make personal contributions to it. Stenographers wrote down the dictations coming thru the "sleeping prophet" during the years of collecting the material. These handwritten papers were then carefully checked only for spelling errors only, no rewriting otherwise was considered. Eventually they were formally published. Back then,, there were no tape recorders. No one ever knew the sleeping prophet, nor formally knew the stenographer either. Those of you who have explored any of Dolores Cannon's books, know that many from the celestial realms came thru her subjects which were under hypnosis. Also people's "higher selves" came thru some of the subjects, recording previous lives on this planet and elsewhere. I loved those works, which formed a portion of my preparation for what I do now. In addition to the Urantia Book, there has been additional of the promised revelation for these "end times." Dolores Cannon above was and is a part of the total process. Also the PHoenix Journals. Those of you who may have looked at them, the main author IS our returned Creator Son, Christ Michael, operating as a fleet commander, called "Hatonn/Aton". I am considering opening a 2nd thread JUST for the Phoenix Journals. that project started in 1987. The material was given not thru a sleeping prophet, but thru a fully awake person by radio signal from craft. Quoting: Nobody in Particular You should open a thread for the Phoenix Journals. Is there a web site? How do you know for sure that Yeshua is the author? Quoting: carmenDi0xide I have had a PJ thread for some time now. Thread: Selections from the Phoenix Journals. How do I know Yeshua is the author for what ? the PJ's? He is but one author. I know him personally that is how I know and I was guided many years ago to them. MAN of EARTH has failed to Build the BrotherHood of Man under the FatherHood of God. I Grieve.


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The greatest Lie in your Bibles is that Jesus was the ONLY Son of God. You who can THINK, (not copy), are SONS OF GOD. That was his greatest teaching, that HIS Father is also YOUR FATHER. This is the REAL Lord's Prayer: "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. found on p. 37 here: [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] AbundantHope, IS the 2nd Coming organization. A partnership between my team and Jesus himself. [link to www.abundanthope.net] Anonymous Coward User ID: 1494617

Belize 12/23/2011 12:14 AM GOOD WORK. I WROTE ABOUT THE URANTIA BOOK IN MY BOOK AFTER STUDYING IT FOR 40 YRS. I HAVE ALSO MADE A PIC OF THE MASTER GRAND UNIVERSE. THAT WOULD HELP YOU AND THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH. YOU MAY USE THIS PICK IF YOU KEEP MY NAME ON IT. GO TO MY WEB SITE;2012 NEW EARTH SURVIVAL.COM. THEN SCROLL DOWN ON MY BLOGS UNTIL YOU REACH IT ,THEN CLICK TO BLOW IT UP AND DOWN LOAD IT.LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF IT. [email protected] REV.JOSHUA SKIRVIN User ID: 1494617

Belize 12/23/2011 12:20 AM GOOD WORK. I WROTE ABOUT THE URANTIA BOOK IN MY BOOK AFTER STUDYING IT FOR 40 YRS. I HAVE ALSO MADE A PIC OF THE MASTER GRAND UNIVERSE. THAT WOULD HELP YOU AND THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH. YOU MAY USE THIS PICK IF YOU KEEP MY NAME ON IT. GO TO MY WEB SITE;2012 NEW EARTH SURVIVAL.COM. THEN SCROLL DOWN ON MY BLOGS UNTIL YOU REACH IT ,THEN CLICK TO BLOW IT UP AND DOWN LOAD IT.LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF IT. [email protected] carmenDi0xide User ID: 1533059


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A worry asked in a collegial spirit - doesn't the word 'Aton' hark back to Egyptian sun worship/ mystery religion? tptb? How did you get to meet Aton? Last Edited by carmenDi0xide on 12/23/2011 12:24 AM Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


A worry asked in a collegial spirit - doesn't the word 'Aton' hark back to Egyptian sun worship/ mystery religion? tptb? How did you get to meet Aton? Quoting: carmenDi0xide Christ Michael IS Aton, He used that for the Phoenix Journals, to sort of hide his identity at the time, they would never have been published if he used Christ Michael. Christ Michael IS using a special body for his return. He is of course a spirit being and cannot been seen by the eyes of man, so he has a body. I have met him personally aboard the Phoenix several times. Once he flew in a small silver craft right over my house. That was election day of 2004. Actually a Creator Sons NAME is long and sung in harmonics which doesn't work for our everyday language. Most of the celestials have to give some sort of simplified name in man's languages. Jess, one on my team once took down his full name, it does start actually with ATON but it took half a page of paper to write down all the sounds! I only know what it says in the UB about Aton, there is little. I haven't studied the ancient stuff much of this planet at all. As to how I met him, hmmm. Well I contacted Christ Michael,using the UB term, on purpose quite a few years ago, and it was after I was referred to the Phoenix Journals that I realized Aton in the was Christ Michael. Long story of a few months of me asking all sorts of questions of Hatonn (name of him in his body), and having him laugh at me with every wrong guess. I had no knowledge of the Egyptian term in fact, and I made him out to be all sorts of possible characters in the UB before the great dawning in early April 2005. I was STUNNED at the time. By then me and




Hatonn/Aton had become best of friends it seemed to me. I could not believe this great celestial buddy, who had flown over my home even, was none other than Christ Michael. You see I left messages I would serve him, and had created Ah for that, and under deep meditation, was given a lot of criteria for the organization before I was guided to the Phoenix Journals. A couple years before or more. So because of how they were presented as I read thru some of them, I did not put 2+2 together, because the point in the Phoenix Journals, WAS TO HIDE WHO HE WAS. He just played this role of the nice guy who brought Esu Sananda back to earth, and was commander of a Pleiadian fleet. I thought Hatonn/Aton was considerably more than a commander of a Pleiadian fleet and was asking a lot of questions. I thought maybe he was a life carrier, a Melchizedek, one of those Lanonandek sons or whatever. All sorts of guesses. For two weeks after I made the CORRECT association I was a "mess" of sorts, dealing with my buddy who was actually CM. I got over it. He's still my buddy. On April 24th, or so, it was decided he was coming out of hiding and admitting publicly he was CM so we did a piece together then, and published it on April 25th. it was the most emotional and intense piece I have done. It's called No Other Planet has walked with Christ Michael as you shall do. [link to abundanthope.net] Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 12/23/2011 09:27 AM MAN of EARTH has failed to Build the BrotherHood of Man under the FatherHood of God. I Grieve. The greatest Lie in your Bibles is that Jesus was the ONLY Son of God. You who can THINK, (not copy), are SONS OF GOD. That was his greatest teaching, that HIS Father is also YOUR FATHER. This is the REAL Lord's Prayer: "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. found on p. 37 here: [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] AbundantHope, IS the 2nd Coming organization. A partnership between my team and Jesus himself. [link to www.abundanthope.net] Anonymous Coward User ID: 7521701

United States 12/23/2011 01:56 AM this is awesome. totally made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

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this is awesome. totally made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7521701 thankyou. I had shut down my computer, last night but wanted to add this morning, in my earlier communications, I was assuming while in contact with CM, that he was NOT returned, but giving out advice and teaching. I had found the Teaching Mission under the Urantia organization, in which had never mentioned he was back there either. So when I associated aton with cm, I then fully understood of course he had returned. That was how good the secrecy was anyway. I was the first given to publicize that in the piece above. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


This is well less than the 2000 page UB, and thus within copyright right guidelines and the UB Foundation failed to get copyright also granted to them in a long lawsuit. God does not copyright the truth. It is free to be distributed. [link to www.urantia.org] 5. Omnipotence and Compossibility (ability or possibility of coexisting-C) (1299.1) 118:5.1 The omnipotence of Deity does not imply the power to do the nondoable. Within the time-space frame and from the intellectual reference point of mortal comprehension, even the infinite God cannot create square circles or produce evil that is inherently good. God cannot do the ungodlike thing. Such a contradiction of philosophic terms is the equivalent of nonentity and implies that nothing is thus created. A personality trait cannot at the same time be Godlike and ungodlike. Compossibility is innate in divine power. And all of this is derived from the fact that omnipotence not only creates things with a nature but also gives origin to the nature of all things and beings. (1299.2) 118:5.2 In the beginning the Father does all, but as the panorama of eternity unfolds in response to the will and mandates of the Infinite, it becomes increasingly


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apparent that creatures, even men, are to become God’s partners in the realization of finality of destiny. And this is true even in the life in the flesh; when man and God enter into partnership, no limitation can be placed upon the future possibilities of such a partnership. When man realizes that the Universal Father is his partner in eternal progression, when he fuses with the indwelling Father presence, he has, in spirit, broken the fetters of time and has already entered upon the progressions of eternity in the quest for the Universal Father. (1299.3) 118:5.3 Mortal consciousness proceeds from the fact, to the meaning, and then to the value. Creator consciousness proceeds from the thought-value, through the word-meaning, to the fact of action. Always must God act to break the deadlock of the unqualified unity inherent in existential infinity. Always must Deity provide the pattern universe, the perfect personalities, the original truth, beauty, and goodness for which all subdeity creations strive. Always must God first find man that man may later find God. Always must there be a Universal Father before there can ever be universal sonship and consequent universal brotherhood. 6. Omnipotence and Omnificence (1299.4) 118:6.1 God is truly omnipotent, but he is not omnificent — he does not personally do all that is done. Omnipotence embraces the power-potential of the Almighty Supreme and the Supreme Being, but the volitional acts of God the Supreme are not the personal doings of God the Infinite. (Candace: essentially God the Supreme i the Evolving all of US. That is why the term volitional acts, choosing acts. ) (1299.5) 118:6.2 To advocate the omnificence of primal Deity would be equal to disenfranchising well-nigh a million Creator Sons of Paradise, not to mention the innumerable hosts of various other orders of concurring creative assistants. There is but one uncaused Cause in the whole universe. All other causes are derivatives of this one First Great Source and Center. And none of this philosophy does any violence to the free-willness of the myriads of the children of Deity scattered through a vast universe. * (1299.6) 118:6.3 Within a local frame, volition may appear to function as an uncaused cause, but it unfailingly exhibits inheritance factors which establish relationship with the unique, original, and absolute First Causes. (1299.7) 118:6.4 All volition is relative. In the originating sense, only the Father-I AM possesses finality of volition; in the absolute sense, only the Father, the Son, and the Spirit exhibit the prerogatives of volition unconditioned by time and unlimited by space. Mortal man is endowed with free will, the power of choice, and though such choosing is not absolute, nevertheless, it is relatively final on the finite level and concerning the destiny of the choosing personality. (1300.1) 118:6.5 Volition on any level short of the absolute encounters limitations which are constitutive in the very personality exercising the power of choice. Man cannot choose beyond the range of that which is choosable. He cannot, for instance, choose to be other than a human being except that he can elect to become more than a man; he can choose to embark upon the voyage of universe ascension, but this is because the human choice and the divine will happen to be coincident upon this point. And what a son desires and the Father wills will certainly come to pass. (because of decisions made within the Will of the Father. Those against his will cannot manifest in goodness and will not be supported.-C) (1300.2) 118:6.6 In the mortal life, paths of differential conduct are continually opening and


closing, and during the times when choice is possible the human personality is constantly deciding between these many courses of action. Temporal volition is linked to time, and it must await the passing of time to find opportunity for expression. Spiritual volition has begun to taste liberation from the fetters of time, having achieved partial escape from time sequence, and that is because spiritual volition is self-identifying with the will of God. (1300.3) 118:6.7 Volition, the act of choosing, must function within the universe frame which has actualized in response to higher and prior choosing. The entire range of human will is strictly finite-limited except in one particular: When man chooses to find God and to be like him, such a choice is superfinite; only eternity can disclose whether this choice is also superabsonite. (1300.4) 118:6.8 To recognize Deity omnipotence is to enjoy security in your experience of cosmic citizenship, to possess assurance of safety in the long journey to Paradise. But to accept the fallacy of omnificence is to embrace the colossal error of pantheism. * Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


I keep forgetting to add stuff here. But while I wait on the stasis, I will post a collection of the daily thoughts put out on www.urantia.org. The paper, chapter and paragraph etc is given after each one. "Be not downcast by your failure wholly to forget some of your regrettable experiences. The mistakes which you fail to forget in time will be forgotten in eternity. Lighten your burdens of soul by speedily acquiring a long-distance view of your destiny, a universe expansion of your career." Teachings of Jesus, (1739.3) 156:5.8 "True it is, you mortals are of earthly, animal origin; your frame is indeed dust. But if you actually will, if you really desire, surely the heritage of the ages is yours, and you shall someday serve throughout the universes in your true characters-children of the Supreme God of experience and divine sons of the Paradise Father of all personalities." (Candace, I AM one of these who is serving in such at this time. I AM a Mighty Messenger. I have obtained the Father on Paradise.) (1240.1) 112:7.19 "In the fraternal realities of the kingdom of heaven the faith sons of God find final deliverance from the isolation of the self, both personal and planetary."



(1985.1) 184:4.6 "The spiritual forward urge is the most powerful driving force present in this world; the truth-learning believer is the one progressive and aggressive soul on earth." (2063.2) 194:3.4 "As the days pass, every true believer becomes more skillful in alluring his fellows into the love of eternal truth. Are you more resourceful in revealing goodness to humanity today than you were yesterday? Are you a better righteousness recommender this year than you were last year? The Teachings of Jesus, (C, this is a good thing to ask at the end of each day, or even during the day, or in your preparing for the day, each morning. And this applies to all of us here, no matter even if we have reached Paradise, the learning never does stop and there are always challenges even when Incarnate as Michael and Esu experienced 2000 years ago. ) (1740.2) 156:5.15 "Man must become hungry for truth as a result of the experiences of living, or he must desire to know God as the result of contact with the lives of those who are acquainted with the divine Father." (C, there is not yet enough hunger on this world for truth, only the following of poorly created religion.) Jesus, (1466.2) 132:7.2 "When a personal duplication or divine extension of this Original Son starts on a bestowal mission of mortal incarnation, it becomes literally true that the divine "Word is made flesh," and that the Word thus dwells among the lowly beings of animal origin." (C to new readers of UB material, this refers to the bestowal mission of Michael of Nebadon as Jesus 2000 years ago. And dear ones, each of you who has the Father Fragment within, YOU ARE THIS WORD ALSO. If man only knew he was the "word of God" and could also access the Spirit of Truth bestowed 2000 years ago, this world would be so different now. Stop putting "God" up in the sky someplace. ) (227.4) 20:5.1 "Your small and insignificant planet is of local universe concern simply because it is the mortal home world of Jesus of Nazareth. It was the scene of the final and triumphant bestowal of your Creator Son, the arena in which Michael won the supreme personal sovereignty of the universe of Nebadon." (228.2) 20:5.5 (C to those not yet reader of the UB, the Creator Son only bestows himself on a single world of his realm. Presently there are 3.8 million inhabited planets in Nebadon. Ponder this special gift. Other planets do receive when ready though, a bestowal of a high son from Paradise. But the Creator Son bestowal makes a planet STAND OUT.) "In the study of the religious life of Jesus, view him positively. Think not so much of his sinlessness as of his righteousness, his loving service. Jesus upstepped the passive love disclosed in the Hebrew concept of the heavenly Father to the higher active and creature-loving affection of a God who is the Father of every individual, even of the wrongdoer. (C now religionists, pay big attention to this one. For the biggy message left out of the bible anyway, was the greatest teaching by Jesus, this one right here. His Father is also YOUR FATHER and you are a SON OF GOD, even if


you are big bad and ugly.) (68.3) 5:4.15 "...there is an instinctive longing in the heart of evolutionary man for help from above and beyond. (C, heed this!) (1008.7) 92:5.5 "Jesus introduced the evening's conference by saying. 'My beloved, you must always make a difference in teaching so as to suit your presentation of truth to the minds and hearts before you.' " (C, which is why I teach somewhat differently from thread to thread here on glp. ) (1691.4) 151:3.1 "Knowledge pertains to things observed, but truth transcends such purely material levels in that it consorts with wisdom and embraces such imponderables as human experience, even spiritual and living realities." (C thus "knowledge" NOT learned from experience and wisdom, is just facts from a book or other observations, and its not always correctly interpreted, what is labeled knowledge on this world. For example, to your knowledge by observing, you could think the sun moves across our sky, but your observation, and thinking about it would supply you the wisdom of knowing, its an illusion, caused by the movement on earth on its axis. "knowledge is NOT always accurate and I knew this a lot in my school years, because some things taught as true knowledge in science were in fact wrong. My 'wisdom" remembered of the ages told me that, or even what I observed around me. You can read the knowledge of fixing your car in a book, but it does NOT become wisdom until you try to fix the car. Then it is wisdom from your experience. ) The Teachings of Jesus, (1459.2) 132:3.2 "The fact of Jesus' earthly life provides a fixed point for the anchor of time, while the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth provides for the everlasting expansion and endless growth of the religion which he lived and the gospel which he proclaimed." (C we do now have an anchor of time, but his birth was 7 bc, the calendars are a bit off, but our world runs on the After Christ time, does it not? even if a bit inaccurate. Notice he LIVED HIS RELIGION and taught that religion is YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with the FATHER WITHIN YOU and not an outside corporation. That is his Good news of the Gospel, that his father is YOUR FATHER and most of you who have not read the UB still don't get that one. ) (2063.6) 194:3.8 "What the world of today needs is the truth which your teacher of old declared: 'Not in word only but also in power and in the Holy Spirit.'" (C, and this world is being given the truth, such as the UB which goes put down by our thugs and otherwise ignored in favor of old corrupted teachings in the various holy books. Not in word only, means you have to LIVE IT not just "read it" ) (380.7) 34:6.6 "You must not forget the great law of human fairness which I have taught you in positive form: Whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do even so to them." (c the greatest commandment that is present in similar words in all religions on this world. The do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)


The Teachings of Jesus, (1931.3) 178:1.12 "As natural religious experience continues to progress, periodic revelations of truth punctuate the otherwise slow moving course of planetary evolution." (C "religious experience" is NOT what goes on in your church buildings. It is what goes on IN YOU personally.) (1129.2) 103:0.2 "The rule of the Most Highs, the overcontrollers of political evolution, is a rule designed to foster the greatest good to the greatest number of all men and for the greatest length of time." (C The Most Highs are the administrators of the constellation governments, who are directly involved in the affairs of men in their realms, which are a LOT of planets. ) (1488.2) 134:5.4 "The ability of the mortal intellect to conceive, design, and create automatic mechanisms demonstrates the superior, creative, and purposive qualities of man's mind as the dominant influence on the planet." (C This means the creating of tools and machines, and such as the internet. This is what makes man above the animals) (483.1) 42:12.1 "Urantia is now quivering on the very brink of one of its most amazing and enthralling epochs of social readjustment, moral quickening, and spiritual enlightenment." (C well this was written in about 1934, and while there is some of this continuing, by and large since 1950's, man is moving backwards in these topics as the thugs continue their work. ) (2082.7) 195:9.2 "Until you attain Paradise levels, goodness will always be more of a quest than a possession, more of a goal than an experience of attainment. But even as you hunger and thirst for righteousness, you experience increasing satisfaction in the partial attainment of goodness." (C to those who think going to church and doing a false born again baptism, causes the perfection of soul, best READ this one. For its a long journey to Paradise. ) (1458.5) 132:2.8 Orange User ID: 9763823

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Re: Discovering the Urantia Book There is a discussion going on in another thread about the "holy spirit" which remains not understood as the Spirit of Truth. I posted this selection of paragraphs from the UB. the teachings I suggested I would post from the Urantia Book. [link to www.urantia.org] the

numbers are the page and paper number. This is from paper #180. Enjoy. (1947.2) 180:3.3 “But I will not leave you alone in the world. Very soon, after I have gone, I will send you a spirit helper. You shall have with you one who will take my place among you, one who will continue to teach you the way of truth, who will even comfort you. (1948.2) 180:4.1 Jesus continued to teach, saying: “When I have gone to the Father, and after he has fully accepted the work I have done for you on earth, and after I have received the final sovereignty of my own domain, I shall say to my Father: Having left my children alone on earth, it is in accordance with my promise to send them another teacher. And when the Father shall approve, I will pour out the Spirit of Truth upon all flesh. Already is my Father’s spirit in your hearts, and when this day shall come, you will also have me with you even as you now have the Father. This new gift is the spirit of living truth. The unbelievers will not at first listen to the teachings of this spirit, but the sons of light will all receive him gladly and with a whole heart. And you shall know this spirit when he comes even as you have known me, and you will receive this gift in your hearts, and he will abide with you. You thus perceive that I am not going to leave you without help and guidance. I will not leave you desolate. Today I can be with you only in person. In the times to come I will be with you and all other men who desire my presence, wherever you may be, and with each of you at the same time. Do you not discern that it is better for me to go away; that I leave you in the flesh so that I may the better and the more fully be with you in the spirit? (1948.3) 180:4.2 “In just a few hours the world will see me no more; but you will continue to know

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me in your hearts even until I send you this new teacher, the Spirit of Truth. As I have lived with you in person, then shall I live in you; I shall be one with your personal experience in the spirit kingdom. And when this has come to pass, you shall surely know that I am in the Father, and that, while your life is hid with the Father in me, I am also in you. I have loved the Father and have kept his word; you have loved me, and you will keep my word. As my Father has given me of his spirit, so will I give you of my spirit. And this Spirit of Truth which I will bestow upon you shall guide and comfort you and shall eventually lead you into all truth. (1949.1) 180:4.5 Jesus looked down upon them all, smiled, and said: “My little children, I am going away, going back to my Father. In a little while you will not see me as you do here, as flesh and blood. In a very short time I am going to send you my spirit, just like me except for this material body. This new teacher is the Spirit of Truth who will live with each one of you, in your hearts, and so will all the children of light be made one and be drawn toward one another. And in this very manner will my Father and I be able to live in the souls of each one of you and also in the hearts of all other men who love us and make that love real in their experiences by loving one another, even as I am now loving you.” (1949.3) 180:5.1 The new helper which Jesus promised to send into the hearts of believers, to pour out upon all flesh, is the Spirit of Truth. This divine endowment is not the letter or law of truth, neither is it to function as the form or expression of truth. The new teacher is the conviction of truth, the consciousness and assurance of true meanings on real spirit levels. And this new teacher is the spirit of living and growing truth, expanding, unfolding, and adaptative truth. (1949.4) 180:5.2 Divine truth is a spirit-discerned and living reality. Truth exists only on high spiritual levels of the realization of divinity and the consciousness of communion with God. You can know the truth, and you can live the truth; you can experience the growth of truth in the soul and enjoy the liberty of its enlightenment in the mind, but you cannot imprison truth in formulas, codes, creeds, or intellectual patterns of human conduct. When you undertake the human formulation of divine truth, it speedily dies. The post-mortem salvage of imprisoned truth, even at best, can eventuate only in the realization of a peculiar form of intellectualized glorified wisdom. Static truth is dead truth, and only dead truth can be held as a theory. Living truth is dynamic and can enjoy only an experiential existence in the human mind. (1949.5) 180:5.3 Intelligence grows out of a material existence which is illuminated by the presence of the cosmic mind. Wisdom comprises the consciousness of knowledge elevated to new levels of meaning and activated by the presence of the universe endowment of the adjutant of wisdom. Truth is a spiritual reality value experienced only by spirit-endowed beings who function upon supermaterial levels of universe consciousness, and who, after the realization of truth, permit its spirit of activation to live and reign within their souls. (1949.6) 180:5.4 The true child of universe insight looks for the living Spirit of Truth in every wise saying. The God-knowing individual is constantly elevating wisdom to the living-truth levels of divine attainment; the spiritually unprogressive soul is all the while dragging the living truth down to the dead levels of wisdom and to the domain of mere exalted knowledge. ------------------------------------------------------ God is divinely kind to sinners. When rebels return to righteousness, they are mercifully received, “for our God will abundantly pardon.” “I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.” “Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God.” (39.4) 2:5.5 After all, the greatest evidence of the goodness of God and the supreme reason for


loving him is the indwelling gift of the Father — the Adjuster who so patiently awaits the hour when you both shall be eternally made one. Though you cannot find God by searching, if you will submit to the leading of the indwelling spirit, you will be unerringly guided, step by step, life by life, through universe upon universe, and age by age, until you finally stand in the presence of the Paradise personality of the Universal Father. Quotes from Paper 2, The Nature of God, from the Urantia Book. [link to www.abundanthope.net] AH IS the GLOBAL 2nd Coming Organization in partnership with the one you call "Jesus" Any of my personal writings on GLP may be used freely in good intent. NIP -------------------------------------------------------- Jamesbo User ID: 10844033


(1949.4) 180:5.2 Divine truth is a spirit-discerned and living reality. Truth exists only on high spiritual levels of the realization of divinity and the consciousness of communion with God. You can know the truth, and you can live the truth; you can experience the growth of truth in the soul and enjoy the liberty of its enlightenment in the mind, but you cannot imprison truth in formulas, codes, creeds, or intellectual patterns of human conduct. When you undertake the human formulation of divine truth, it speedily dies. The post-mortem salvage of imprisoned truth, even at best, can eventuate only in the realization of a peculiar form of intellectualized glorified wisdom. Static truth is dead truth, and only dead truth can be held as a theory. Living truth is dynamic and can enjoy only an experiential existence in the human mind. (1949.5) 180:5.3 Intelligence grows out of a material existence which is illuminated by the presence of the cosmic mind. Wisdom comprises the consciousness of knowledge elevated to new levels of meaning and activated by the presence of the universe endowment of the adjutant of wisdom. Truth is a spiritual reality value experienced only by spirit-endowed beings who function upon supermaterial levels of universe consciousness, and who, after the realization of truth, permit its spirit of activation to live and reign within their souls. (1949.6) 180:5.4 The true child of universe insight looks for the living Spirit of Truth in every wise saying. The God-knowing individual is constantly elevating wisdom to the living-truth levels of divine attainment; the spiritually unprogressive soul is all the while dragging the living truth down to the dead levels of wisdom and to the domain of mere exalted knowledge. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Thank you for posting this. Awe inspiring!




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1. The Universe Attitude of the Father (54.4) 4:1.1 For ages the inhabitants of Urantia have misunderstood the providence of God. There is a providence of divine outworking on your world, but it is not the childish, arbitrary, and material ministry many mortals have conceived it to be. The providence of God consists in the interlocking activities of the celestial beings and the divine spirits who, in accordance with cosmic law, unceasingly labor for the honor of God and for the spiritual advancement of his universe children. (54.5) 4:1.2 Can you not advance in your concept of God’s dealing with man to that level where you recognize that the watchword of the universe is progress? Through long ages the human race has struggled to reach its present position. Throughout all these millenniums Providence has been working out the plan of progressive evolution. The two thoughts are not opposed in practice, only in man’s mistaken concepts. Divine providence is never arrayed in opposition to true human progress, either temporal or spiritual. Providence is always consistent with the unchanging and perfect nature of the supreme Lawmaker. 3. God’s Unchanging Character (57.6) 4:3.1 All too long has man thought of God as one like himself. God is not, never was, and never will be jealous of man or any other being in the universe of universes. Knowing that the Creator Son intended man to be the masterpiece of the planetary creation, to be the ruler of all the earth, the sight of his being dominated by his own baser passions, the spectacle of his bowing down before idols of wood, stone, gold, and selfish ambition — these sordid scenes stir God and his Sons to be jealous for man, but never of him. (57.7) 4:3.2 The eternal God is incapable of wrath and anger in the sense of these human emotions and as man understands such reactions. These sentiments are mean and despicable; they are hardly worthy of being called human, much less divine; and such attitudes are utterly foreign to the perfect nature and gracious character of the Universal Father. (58.1) 4:3.3 Much, very much, of the difficulty which Urantia mortals have in understanding God is due to the far-reaching consequences of the Lucifer rebellion and the Caligastia betrayal. On worlds not segregated by sin, the evolutionary races are able to formulate far better ideas of the Universal Father; they suffer less from confusion, distortion, and perversion of concept.



(58.2) 4:3.4 God repents of nothing he has ever done, now does, or ever will do. He is all-wise as well as all-powerful. Man’s wisdom grows out of the trials and errors of human experience; God’s wisdom consists in the unqualified perfection of his infinite universe insight, and this divine foreknowledge effectively directs the creative free will. 4. The Realization of God (58.6) 4:4.1 God is the only stationary, self-contained, and changeless being in the whole universe of universes, having no outside, no beyond, no past, and no future. God is purposive energy (creative spirit) and absolute will, and these are self-existent and universal. 5. Erroneous Ideas of God (59.6) 4:5.1 Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that primitive man was a mythmaker. (60.1) 4:5.2 One of the greatest sources of confusion on Urantia concerning the nature of God grows out of the failure of your sacred books clearly to distinguish between the personalities of the Paradise Trinity and between Paradise Deity and the local universe creators and administrators. During the past dispensations of partial understanding, your priests and prophets failed clearly to differentiate between Planetary Princes, System Sovereigns, Constellation Fathers, Creator Sons, Superuniverse Rulers, the Supreme Being, and the Universal Father. Many of the messages of subordinate personalities, such as Life Carriers and various orders of angels, have been, in your records, presented as coming from God himself. Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation. (60.2) 4:5.3 The people of Urantia continue to suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God. The gods who go on a rampage in the storm; who shake the earth in their wrath and strike down men in their anger; who inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood — these are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the Gods who live and rule the universes. Such concepts are a relic of the times when men supposed that the universe was under the guidance and domination of the whims of such imaginary gods. But mortal man is beginning to realize that he lives in a realm of comparative law and order as far as concerns the administrative policies and conduct of the Supreme Creators and the Supreme Controllers. (60.3) 4:5.4 The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. Such beliefs are utterly repulsive to the celestial beings and the divine rulers who serve and reign in the universes. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath. [link to www.urantia.org] Evolving_Enigma User ID: 11797767

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Th bible is terribly compromised and written by man. And it has been deliberately changed in order to cause support for Israel, and the Khazars who are the "antichrist." Has some truth yes, but can't hold a candle to the modern revelation given this planet at the end of this age. ^^THIS^^ I am with you NIP, Urantia really helped me in some dark places, and frankly I don't trust the Bible anymore. You can tell parts are missing... Nobody in Particular (OP) Where are your I AM's sleepy ones? User ID: 12018334


Th bible is terribly compromised and written by man. And it has been deliberately changed in order to cause support for Israel, and the Khazars who are the "antichrist." Has some truth yes, but can't hold a candle to the modern revelation given this planet at the end of this age. ^^THIS^^ I am with you NIP, Urantia really helped me in some dark places, and frankly I don't trust the Bible anymore. You can tell parts are missing... Quoting: Nobody in Particular Urantia is marvelous reading over some many different topics. really a lot of food for thought in it and UB #2 down the road to more complete the story of earth and surrounding areas should be just as good. I do not understand why some are so narrow minded as to reject this out of hand after the first paragraph apparently. But I did reject it myself initially in the book store because I was so sick of christianity I could vomit so with the last 1/3 being about the life of Jesus I put it back on the shelf. But kept coming back to it. I was really broke at the time and finally one day a credit card showed up in the mail and that was the first item I put on it. Nobody in Particular (OP) Where are your I AM's sleepy ones? User ID: 12018334

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03/10/2012 10:04 PM

GOOD WORK. I WROTE ABOUT THE URANTIA BOOK IN MY BOOK AFTER STUDYING IT FOR 40 YRS. I HAVE ALSO MADE A PIC OF THE MASTER GRAND UNIVERSE. THAT WOULD HELP YOU AND THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH. YOU MAY USE THIS PICK IF YOU KEEP MY NAME ON IT. GO TO MY WEB SITE;2012 NEW EARTH SURVIVAL.COM. THEN SCROLL DOWN ON MY BLOGS UNTIL YOU REACH IT ,THEN CLICK TO BLOW IT UP AND DOWN LOAD IT.LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF IT. [email protected] Quoting: REV.JOSHUA SKIRVIN 1494617 Hi Rev. Joshua, I could not get a working link to your site, by using www.and the rest of the name. If you are come back you might want to copy and paste the link. There is a lovely painting already of that commissioned by the UB folks. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] and other commissioned paintings by the same person. I have a print version on glossy paper by somebody else too, which are not as good as Gary Tonge. I would like to look at yours too. Here is linky to Gary Tonge's gallery on Deviant art. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com] about the construction of architectural worlds. Jamesbo User ID: 10844033


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A worry asked in a collegial spirit - doesn't the word 'Aton' hark back to Egyptian sun worship/ mystery religion? tptb? How did you get to meet Aton? Quoting: carmenDi0xide How do you meet him, ask! otherwise, engage his Spirit of Truth, a copy of his spirit bestowed on earth. Aton is actually the beginning two intoned sounds of a very long name and the very long name is sung, harmonics. So he shortened it. Christ Michael is a short version also, Michael being the name of the class of Sons created on Paradise and Christ refering to a status of accomplishment I guess. He asked ME long ago to just call him Christ which I do, others prefer Aton and now that both are used, some prefer Christ Michael/Aton and I was asked why I usually call him Michael of Nebadon here. If you are a Nebadon origin being, he is within your soul anyway. Yes it does hark back to then on this planet also, and he chose Aton thus to use (as Hatonn) in the Phoenix Journals as a disguise. If he used Christ Michael, the PJ project would have been deaded real fast. He has also use RA in the RA material and of course just plain Jesus, in the 365 lessons contained in the Course of Miracles. The SUN is however, the "father " energy of this solar system. not so far off. WELL, I am laughing, seems this is my 2nd answer to the question! Nobody in Particular (OP) Where are your I AM's sleepy ones? User ID: 12018334


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United States 03/10/2012 10:27 PM The universe is infinate. Bazzillions of life forms. Even more dimensions. Most are aware of us Earthlings. Most are spiritually (for lack of another word) ahead of us. There is a hierarchy. Earth is 3D and our souls were put here to aquire integrity. Nobody in Particular (OP) Where are your I AM's sleepy ones? User ID: 12018334


The universe is infinate. Bazzillions of life forms. Even more dimensions. Most are aware of us Earthlings. Most are spiritually (for lack of another word) ahead of us. There is a hierarchy. Earth is 3D and our souls were put here to aquire integrity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613 all fine and well, good list, but we are now 4d, early 4d which is the argumentative get off the fence dimension. Sure shows here on GLP! try visiting glpVoice Chat, my if they had guns...... Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 03/10/2012 10:30 PM Anonymous Coward User ID: 11719613

United States 03/10/2012 10:32 PM Yeah, I thought so too..

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No urantia book will come close to the hugeness of existence in this solar system, much less our Milkyway nor the infinate nature of the Universe. Silly human concept to think we could grasp any of it... Anonymous Coward User ID: 11719613

United States 03/10/2012 10:35 PM Just being slighly aware of the enormity of our Universe and its infinate dimensions is a gift. Now, what to do with it....LOL

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Yeah, I thought so too.. No urantia book will come close to the hugeness of existence in this solar system, much less our Milkyway nor the infinate nature of the Universe. Silly human concept to think we could grasp any of it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613 it is the only book on the planet that comes close to approaching any concept of the creation. having taken the journey to Paradise I have some grasp. Its not just the "universe", its a huge collection of them. we gotta start someplace on this world! Most won't even open the thing, and some won't open it because their ministers told them the devil wrote it. I think its an excellent starting point, and one reason it was given, was not so much for the people of earth NOW, but those of the future. Plus there are a LOT of very high folks incarnate here and it was hoped to wake them up to who they were, but most don't see themselves in it yet, anyway. There are a lot of young Michael Sons here for instance. Anonymous Coward User ID: 11719613




Yeah, I thought so too.. No urantia book will come close to the hugeness of existence in this solar system, much less our Milkyway nor the infinate nature of the Universe. Silly human concept to think we could grasp any of it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613 it is the only book on the planet that comes close to approaching any concept of the creation. having taken the journey to Paradise I have some grasp. Its not just the "universe", its a huge collection of them. we gotta start someplace on this world! Most won't even open the thing, and some won't open it because their ministers told them the devil wrote it. I think its an excellent starting point, and one reason it was given, was not so much for the people of earth NOW, but those of the future. Plus there are a LOT of very high folks incarnate here and it was hoped to wake them up to who they were, but most don't see themselves in it yet, anyway. There are a lot of young Michael Sons here for instance. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Start here....Hmmm....one of bazzillions of Earth like planets with one language...a book...written by? Not saying there is not a lot of truth....but it is only a miniscule slice and therefore an incomplete view. Some tid bits, but way to easy to grasp....that is the speedbump, sting operation at work here. Awareness of this is key....then you can decerne the bits of truth....boils down to a clean clear integrity about oneself....and that hurts....else we would not be on this kindergarden planet. Anonymous Coward User ID: 10750949

United States 03/10/2012 10:54 PM is the bride of CHRIST the whole 144,000? Anonymous Coward User ID: 11719613

United States 03/10/2012 10:58 PM is the bride of CHRIST the whole 144,000? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10750949 Is there a bride of Christ on every single inhabited planet in this solar system, galaxy, Universe...not to mention gazillion dimensions? Hate to tell you but numbers (144,000) or 666 on this 3D planet are frivolous human machinations of imagination and folklore and make absolutely no difference 5 miles up into our very own atmosphere.



United States 03/10/2012 11:02 PM I was asking NIP


United States 03/10/2012 11:07 PM I was asking NIP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10750949 Sorry, nevermind Anonymous Coward User ID: 11719613

United States 03/10/2012 11:09 PM I was asking NIP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10750949 Sorry, nevermind Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11719613 Yeah, go to sleep,,,,144,000...I'll bet you think you are one of those chosen....might be. So, 7 billion have to beg? Hmmmm....if it makes you feel sort of special...maybe you are...so, why are you on Earth right now? Anonymous Coward User ID: 10750949

United States 03/10/2012 11:12 PM we all can be so special, and yes I am. Anonymous Coward User ID: 10750949

United States 03/11/2012 12:35 AM "why are you on Earth right now?" I camw here to help.

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