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DISCOURSEDISCOURSETHE MAGAZINE OF THE DISCOVERY OWNERS CLUB Number 10 - WINTER 2002/3

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New‘EXPERIENCE’

New‘EXPERIENCE’

Keeping Warm for WinterStirling Moss at LRO Show

2 Buying from Auction ExperiencesTreasure Hunt Saga Continues

More on the New L318 Discovery

Keeping Warm for WinterStirling Moss at LRO Show

2 Buying from Auction ExperiencesTreasure Hunt Saga Continues

More on the New L318 Discovery

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Legal StuffFor the purposes of this notice, ‘Discovery Owners Club’ and ‘Club’ are interchangeable and assumed to mean the same thing.

Discourse ArticlesThe Club reserves the right to edit or refuse articles received from members.

Views expressed by members contributing to this magazine are those of that member and may not necessarily be those of the Club. Every effort is made to verify the contents of member’s articles, but the Club can not accept responsibility for the veracity of its content.

Caveat EmptorEvery effort is made to ensure advertisements are bona fide. The Club can not accept responsibility for the quality of goods or services advertised. The moral is “buyer beware”.

Public Liability InsuranceThe Club has Public Liability Insurance for registered Club events of a non-competitive nature. Cover is provided for full Club members, their spouse or partner and children residing at the same address. Family members as defined in the Club rules travelling in a separate vehicle are also covered. Road traffic accident risks are not covered by the Club’s Public Liability Insurance. It is the responsibility of the member to ensure that they have proper and legal Insurance cover for themselves and the vehicle from leaving home until returning home.

Club EventsActivities in particular but not excluding off-roading and green-laning are undertaken solely at the participants’ own risk. Vehicles should be suitably insured and prepared for the undertaken activity. Participation in any Club organised event is on the understanding and acceptance that safety is the responsibility of the participant.

Green LanesAll ‘green lanes’ are highways as defined by the Highways Act 1980. Green laning events require the same level of insurance, road tax, MOT and driver’s licence as normal roads.

Association of Rover ClubsThe Club is a non-competitive member of the Association of Rover Clubs (ARC), an organisation bringing together all member Land Rover clubs for organising events (both competitive and non-competitive) and providing many essential services to member clubs.

GLASSThe Discovery Owners Club is a member of GLASS (Green Lane Association). GLASS is a national rights of way user group representing the interests of motor car users on unsurfaced minor highways or ‘green lanes’ in England and Wales. GLASS promotes responsible off-roading and the Club endorses this.

Club Web Site & DOC Forumwww.discoveryownersclub.com is the Club’s website address.

www.docforum.co.uk is the new forum address. For instant access, all you need is a valid membership number to register on site. Once registered, you can log on anywhere in the world to catch up with your favourite club, post replies and help fellow Discovery Owners.

Subjects range from Caravanning to Humour. There’s optional email notification for individual postings, entire topics or forums.

Back IssuesTwo ways for members to obtain Discourse back issues:

Printed copies at £2.50 ea together with a self addressed A4 envelope stamped at 41pence, or

CD-ROM at £2.00 including postage. This would have all back issues.

Cheques should be made payable to ‘Discovery Owners Club’ and sent with your order to Lee Jones - Membership Secretary.

In This Issue

Land Rover News 4Book Review 5A Winter Muffler 6A Winter Warmer 6New Job, New Disco 7L318 Drivetrain 8Stirling LRO Show 9Fitting Jackmates 11200Tdi Headlamp Replacement 12L318 Design and Body 13L318 Interior 14Hi-Lift Disco 15Lane Clearance 17Treasure Hunt with a Difference 18Class of 93 192003 Events List 22Regional Meets 23

AcknowledgementsFront cover photograph by permission of Land Rover. This issue has been designed and published by Focus TC Tel: 01628 662566, Fax: 01628 607980, Website: www.focustc.co.uk

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Alan SmartHistory Officer, Newsletter Editor, Wessex LSRThe Bales, Cow Lane, Kimpton, Andover, Hampshire, SP11 8NY. Tel: 01264 772851, Fax: 01264 773300, Email: [email protected]

Gerry Summerfield Club Shop OfficerGlenholm, Whitecroft Road, Bream, Gloucestershire, GL15 6LY. Tel: 01594 560314, Tel. Work: 01446 737470

Jim Law Member Representative1 Vulcan Close, Whitstable, Kent, CT5 4LZTel: 01227 264747, Mobile: 07944 836 177, Email: [email protected]

Andy MyersYorkshire LSR2 Restmore Avenue, Guiseley, Leeds, West Yorkshire, LS20 9DG. Tel: 01943 876108 Email: [email protected]

Kim HollingsNorth West LSR15 Knowsley Crescent, Offerton, Stockport, Cheshire, SK1 4JB. Tel: 0161 480 7096, Email: [email protected]

Paul WalkerNorth Worcs LSR17 Ditchford Close, Hunt End, Redditch, B97 5XTTel: 01527 404103, Mobile: 07939 411995, Email: [email protected]

Your Committee

Neil BrownleeActing Chairman9 Lindisfarne Way, East Hunsbury, Northampton, NN4 0WG. Tel: 07768 366 157, Email: [email protected]

Gary TredwellActing Vice Chairman, Central Southern LSR21 Wick Close, Peachcroft, Abingdon, Oxon, OX14 2NQ. Tel: 01235 520240, Email: [email protected]

Simon KayActing Club Secretary, Northants LSR32 Hobby Close, East Hunsbury, Northants, NN4 0RNTel: 01604 248756, Mobile: 07887 626063, Email: [email protected]

Ros PalmerTreasurer31 Stanley Street, Brighouse, West Yorkshire, HD6 1SX. Tel: 01484 384883, Email: [email protected]

Lee JonesMembership Secretary, Sth. Staffs LSR73 Tottenham Crescent, Kingstanding, Birmingham, B44 0ST. Tel: 0121 603 3632, Wk: 0121 328 0065, Email: [email protected]

Tim ArnoldEvents Co-ordinator, Sussex LSR9 Sunstar Lane, Polegate, East Sussex, BN26 5HSTel: 01323 489003, Mobile: 07801 292024, Email: [email protected]

From the Editor’s KeyboardThanks to all of you who took time to tell us what you thought of the new-look Discourse. Most comments were favourable and where we did make some mistakes I hope we have them sorted in this issue.

We have some paid advertising in this issue which will help reduce production costs and therefore the cost to you, the member. I’ll be interested to know your reaction to the type of advertisements we’ve attracted and whether these are the products and services that we should be advertising in the club magazine.

As we were about to go to press, we had a couple of committee resignations and there is a ‘Stop Press’ page included to explain what has happened and why. We did manage to change the contact details on this page.

Also included in the issue are your AGM papers. The AGM is your opportunity to have your say in the running of the club. Please read them, then come along and have your say. We need more of you to be involved in the running of the club. If you can help, no matter how small the contribution, please consider volunteering to help. As the club grows and more events are run, we need all the help we can get.

It’s your magazine, so we need articles from you about your Discovery. In the next issue we hope to have a more international flavour. If you’re one of our overseas members, you’ll be hearing from me requesting an article, but that doesn’t mean the rest of you can just sit back. Send a letter, an advert or an article with pictures. Please do something! Last date for receiving articles, letters, event dates, etc. is 23rd. March.

Finally, a big thanks to Nick Brooker who does all the clever bits with the magazine design and layout, and Alex Drummond who once again has provided some enthusiastic and interesting articles on Discovery maintenance issues.

Alan


Land Rover News

Obituary - Tom Barton, OBE - 1915-2002

It’s with great sadness that we learn of the death of Tom Barton – Mr. Land Rover - who died at the age of 87 in October. I last saw him at the Land Rover Marque day at Gaydon in May where he posed for this photo stood before the oldest surviving production Series 1. He was rightly proud of this and the Range Rover – he had been part of the original design team for the first Land Rover which was conceived as a post-war stop-gap product.

That product created a legend that spawned the great Land Rover family, which culminated in the new Range Rover. He headed-up design and engineering in the late fifties that brought us the Series II and III, 90 and 110 and, of course, Range Rover and Discovery. He retired in 1980 but kept an active interest in what went on at Land Rover as he still lived just around the corner from the factory! He was a keen supporter of the annual Land Rover Marque event and it won’t seem the same without him.

For all us ‘through-and-through’ Land Rover people

Thanks, Tom. You changed our lives.

Land Rover G4 Challenge

Byron Lewis 38, a teacher from Taunton, and Tim Pickering 39, who runs his own business as an outdoor adventure sports instructor from the Isle of Lewis, have been named as the UK finalists for the Land Rover G4 Challenge.

The pair won through the gruelling selection process at Eastnor Castle from a shortlist of 50.

Together they go through to the International Selection Event in January to decide which of them goes on to the main event starting in New York in March. Only one of them can fly the flag for Britain. Contestants were assessed on physical agility, stamina and mental strength.

The event features competitors from 16 nations spanning three continents and four time zones. Activities for the two-nation teams include kayaking, climbing, mountain biking and driving almost 4,000 kms of stunning terrain, in specially prepared Discoveries, Range Rovers and Freelanders, all finished in an equally stunning Tangiers Orange.

Ultimately, only one competitor representing one nation will emerge as winner of the Land Rover G4 Challenge, but the eight two-nation teams will have to rely on their combined skills, stamina and strategic thinking, in order to triumph in this adventure.


Born Free Again

Land Rover has signed a sponsorship deal with the Born Free Foundation under its fragile Earth policy.

This is the company’s commitment to the environment through the sponsorship of leading environmental organisations, the development of sustainable practices and technologies and the company’s ‘Off Road Code’.

Land Rover’s relationship with the Born Free Foundation dates back to the charity’s very beginnings, when Bill Travers and Virginia Mckenna used an early Land Rover Series II in the 1964 film based on the story of George and Joy Adamson

The Born Free Foundation is an international wildlife charity working with compassion to prevent cruelty, alleviate suffering and encourage everyone to treat all individual animals with respect. Born Free believes wildlife belongs in the wild and is dedicated to the conservation of rare species in their natural habitat, and the phasing out of traditional zoos.

One of the Land Rover donated expedition-ready Discoveries to the foundation was accepted on their behalf by actress, conservationist and Born Free patron, Amanda Holden recently at the motor show. She said:

“Having visited some of India’s remotest regions with our rescued tigers earlier this year, I can fully appreciate the value of Land Rover’s versatile vehicles to the invaluable work Born free does. It is also great to see these shining vehicles in all their glory amid the glamour of the motor show. My experience with Land Rovers has always been in their natural habitat – mud and desert dust.”

Fifty Years of the Best 4x4xFarBook Review by Alan Smart

Published in 1998 to celebrate Land Rover’s half-century, this book faithfully documents the history of our favourite automotive brand. With foreword by Maurice Wilks’ sons, Patrick and Steven, it charts the rise and almost demise of the Land Rover Company. It takes us through the conception of the original Land Rover, the centre-steer prototype, through the Series Land Rovers, the development of Range Rover, Discovery and Freelander.

There are fascinating insights into the thinking behind the models, the problems with funding and prototypes that never saw the light of day. The book also looks at some of the expeditions the factory supported, including the Camel Trophy.

There are sections devoted to specials that the company made for military and civil applications, as well as some of the completely knocked down (CKD) kit-form Land Rovers that were shipped for assembly overseas. This all started with the Minerva and went on to the Tempo and Santana models. Want to know more? You’ll have to read the book!

The section on Discovery is sub-titled “The Empire Strikes Back” and tells of how Discovery won back sales from the ever-increasing Japanese imports to the point where it very quickly became the market class leader.

A fascinating read. Despite the fact Solihull has produced a new Range Rover and a revised Discovery since publication, it still warrants a place on the enthusiast’s bookshelf.


A Winter MufflerDiether Hofmann

In the winter, my Discovery 200Tdi has always been rather under-cooled in normal road use. The exception is when in low-range, cross country driving.

I’ve fitted an oil temperature gauge on my dash-board and this shows that, despite the water temperature being normal (90°C), the oil temperature has only risen to 50°C, and that’s after a run of half an hour! This is bad news. At this temperature the oil is still thick and stiff, it’s not lubricating properly, there’s more friction and hence wear in the engine, the emissions are worse, fuel consumption is poor and last, but not least, the cabin heating is poor!

To overcome these problems in the winter, I‘ve made my own radiator muff. It’s made from a thin (12mm) doormat (one side is textile the other is rubber), folded with the rubber outside and fixed with a few rivets. It’s held in place with three elasticated straps onto the plastic grille as shown in the photo. The straps hold it in place even at speed. The lower two grille slits are now covered.

The result is very good. After only ten minutes running, the oil temperature is up to 80°C even in frosty weather. The muff is easy to fit and remove when the weather gets warmer or for cross-country driving, so the engine will not overheat. The oil temperature gauge is very useful in the summer as well.

Editor’s note: You need to make sure you keep the left-hand side of the grille clear for the inter-cooler otherwise you will see a severe loss of performance and possibly cause localised overheating of engine valves.

A Winter WarmerAlex Drummond

A thought for a cold winter’s morning....

Next time you awake to the crisp whiteness of a hard, early morning frost, ask yourself.. “How much would I pay for someone to get out of bed half an hour before me, clear all the windscreens, take the car for a spin to warm it up and hand me the keys of this fully defrosted, warm-engined, warm interior car?”. No icy hands scraping windows, no stopping half a mile down the road because the screen has frozen over again and no numb fingers on that notoriously cold Disco steering wheel. Well, I reckon it has to be worth a good 20p of my money! Intrigued? Read on.....

I set out for work around 6:50 am and at this time of year that often means an icy windscreen. Even if it’s not a full-on frost there is quite often heavy condensation which can be at the point of freezing. It’s bad enough having to get up at 6:00 am without having to allow another 10 minutes for defrosting the car. There is the safety factor too, because even after clearing the windows, often they partially re-freeze for the first few miles of the journey.

Two winters ago I tried an experiment. I put an old hair dryer on a stand and set it up in the car via an extension lead. On full blast it helped to clear the car and warm the interior in about 20 minutes. It still meant getting out of bed to set it up but it had solved the refreezing problem and it made the interior all nice and toasty. Crude, but effective.

Inspired by the success of my initial experiments I decided to look for something that would be a more permanent solution. I found there were two options available. There are diesel fired heaters (Webasto and Eberspacher) that work from the car’s own on-board fuel systems and then there is the Kenlowe Engine pre-heater which is mains powered. The diesel fired ones have the advantage that they work wherever the vehicle is parked. Some come with time clocks and some can even be instructed to fire up via mobile phone – imagine phoning up your car and asking it to put the heating on! The drawback of the diesel type for me was cost - basic units start at £500 and full systems top £1000.

Fit a kenlowe pre-heater. The Kenlowe retails for around £135. It does have the limitation that you need to be parked within reach of the house but that aside, it works really well and now I’ve got one, I certainly wouldn’t be without it.


What do you get for your money? The basic kit comprises the heater unit, connecting hose, hose adaptors and power supply lead for linking the unit to the bumper mounted socket. You also get the round plug to stick on the end of your extension lead and you get a choice of lead length, depending on whether you want to plug the car in at the front or the back. I opted to mount the socket on the back so paid a little extra for a long lead. The heater unit itself contains a 3kw element, a small circulating pump and a thermal cut out. The cut out limits the temperature to just below the point at which the car’s own thermostat would open and cool everything via the radiator. Clever, eh?

Fitting in the Disco is especially easy. As you can see, I put mine on the bulkhead in front of the jack where it is secured by three bolts. I ran the power lead under the chassis using cable ties to secure it, mounting the socket on the tow bar plate. One side of the unit connects to the heater outlet on the cylinder head, the other to the heater pipe, which passes over the manifolds. At this point it’s worth noting that I have had a problem with metal fatigue on the clips to that pipe. I connected the Kenlowe hose directly to the pipe and it may be that it is too stiff or it may just be the weight of it. I reckon

it’s probably worth using a short length of the soft rubber hose as a link to absorb vibration.

Kenlowe claim a warm up time of around 30 minutes on a typical engine. However, the 200 TDi engine is a big lump of metal and to bring it up to temperature I find takes 45-50 minutes with an ambient temperature around freezing. I have my extension lead on a time clock so the unit is already up and running before I wake up.

At this point, many would be happy. With the engine pre-warmed it doesn’t take long to defrost the windows and warm the interior. However, I wanted the whole car warm before I get to it and Kenlowe sell an additional unit which is designed to connect to the car’s own internal fan. Although not unreasonably priced, I decided to make my own (because electronics and electrics are a bit of a thing of mine). I’ll tell you now though; attacking the wiring to the existing fan is difficult because it’s behind the heater control panel and getting room to wield a wire stripper and soldering iron or crimp tool is dead tricky. Tricky, but not impossible.

I’d say I spent three hours wiring up the fan to a relay so that when the unit is on the fan runs. Unless you know what you are doing though, I’d recommend going with the Kenlowe adaptation. Obviously running the fan to heat the inside of the car means that you need to give the unit longer to reach temperature so I give mine around 100 minutes.

I’ve run the unit through a whole winter and used it quite a bit in the summer too, although generally just to heat the engine. I’m sure having warm oil is a kindness that my engine will repay me in time. With winter now upon us, I no longer dread seeing a frosty morning and I know I shouldn’t laugh, but it is very satisfying watching people scrape ice off windscreens as I sip my morning cuppa and watch the car defrost itself.

New Job, New DiscoMike Hammer

As a student I owned a Series III, my second most favourite car ever. It gave me a taste for Solihull’s products, so when I started a new job in 2000 that gave me a significantly higher income, I decided I wanted a Discovery.

Most, if not all Land Rover owners know the rules about second hand car buying: Don’t buy the first one you look at, take an expert, shop around and get the vehicle checked out (mechanically and HPI) before handing over your hard earned cash. This is not how I found myself the owner of M496 RJO, a late 1994 Discovery V8i ES with LPG and about 100,000 miles on the clock.


It was the first vehicle I looked at and the ‘expert’ was my girlfriend. I had intended to shop around but it looked nice so must have been mechanically sound; but I did get an HPI check, so I knew it wasn’t nicked. As an impetuous 23 years old I forked out the £8200.

Two years later, I’m still in love and I’ve no desire for any other motor vehicle, and hopefully won’t for a long time to come.

Shortly after my purchase, a wading expedition down a flooded lane nearly ended in tears. There was what appeared to be a Vauxhall Vectra abandoned 100 metres down the lane, so we figured we could make it that far. As we approached, this car it got deeper and deeper. First our feet got wet, then the CD changer made some very peculiar noises (apparently its death throes) then finally the lights went dim. They were submerged, and I couldn’t believe that the engine was still running! A slight upward slope as we approached the Vectra, my heart slowed down to about 200 beats per minute and with a nervous laugh I realised that the Vectra was a Jeep Grand Cherokee, abandoned by someone equally foolish. Nice one Solihull! From that point, we decided a strategic retreat was in order and backed out with no further drama. Total damage: one CD changer and the Tom Jones CD it was playing, which for some reason the player took a bite out of before passing away. Since this event I’ve had no major incidents.

However, there are always things to keep me occupied on the car. Over the last two years it has required a new starter motor, a viscous fan, wheel bearings, gearbox main shaft, battery, and all the usual small things that fail on a Land Rover of this age.

From the time I collected the car, the way it wallowed and

bottomed out over speed bumps made it obvious that new suspension was needed. This was tackled by Frogs Island 4x4, who fitted ‘Old Man Emu’ suspension, which provides a nice firm ride with the lift I desired. They’re also responsible for the snorkel (just in case!) and the sump guard, both of which have yet to be tried out in anger.

Spot lights and stereo I fitted myself, and fitting an aerial up and down button is my next project, as the last aerial one got swept away by a bush down a country lane somewhere. A set of 235/85 R16 BFGoodrich Trac Edges on black Wolf wheels come highly recommended in every respect except for motorway cruising, for which they are a little noisy.

The car has now done 132,000 miles. So what does the future hold in store? It has never run well on LPG and it used to blow up air boxes, so I shall be fitting a stainless steel sports exhaust which will allow me to bin the cats, which are already 36,000 miles past their use by date and possibly responsible for the poor running. A lock box in the boot will hopefully stop scum from the shallow end of the gene pool breaking into my car again and because of this, I am also currently in need of a new side repeater and door handle.

I’ve just seen the article on the G4 Disco and think that the roof rack fitted would look very nice and obviously would be immensely practical for all sorts of loads.

The power steering is making funny noises, as is the nearside wheel bearing, both of which I shall be looking at myself.

There’s always something I can be doing. And if there isn’t? I still have my original Series III in bits and often think it might be nice to put it back together again....

L318 DrivetrainLand Rover

The new 2003 Discovery uses a well proven drivetrain with a choice of either petrol or diesel engines and manual or automatic gearboxes. A central differential lock is new for the 2003 model. All models have the permanent four-wheel drive and a two-stage transfer gearbox.

The diesel power unit for the new 2003 Discovery is the 2.5 litre, five cylinder Td5, developed and manufactured by Land Rover. This engine features Electronic Unit Injector (EUI) technology where each injector is separately controlled by an electronic control unit. The system injects the fuel at extremely high pressures for maximum control, the result being responsive, clean and economical performance across a wide range of power and torque.

2.5 litre Td5


A Stirling LRO ShowChris Gorvin

It all started at 4 pm on Thursday 26th of September. I was sitting at work waiting for Kim to ring; he was in a convoy from Manchester bound for Abingdon and on board he had the gazebo and banner, now no longer needed. This would help our small showing at Peterborough look a little more professional (if only I’d known...).

20 minutes later I was at Hilton services on the M6, getting the normal banter from Hobgoblin and his partner in crime George. This time because Monte, my TD5, was dirty – no pleasing some! Gazebo banner and those bl**dy heavy pole stands on board, I bid farewell to the Abingdon advanced guard and duly slipped out of the service entrance, content that all was ready for the weekend.

The Td5 engine produces 101 kW (137 PS) at 4,200 rpm and recent tuning has taken maximum torque up to 340 Nm (250 lb ft) when coupled to an automatic gearbox. Maximum torque is delivered at only 1,950 rpm for impressive drivability on-road and rugged off-road ability.

Among the special features of the Td5 is its two-stage throttle response, made possible by the unit’s electronically controlled, ‘drive-by-wire’ system. This system has two throttle maps – the on-road version providing the driver with a fast response for maximum driveability while the off-road profile is more linear.

A key factor in the development of the Td5 engine was to reduce cost of ownership. For example, the lubrication system features a centrifugal oil filter in addition to the normal filter. This traps particles that might otherwise contaminate engine oil and pushes oil change points to 20,000 km (12,000 miles). This reduced use of oil reduces servicing costs and has significant environmental benefits.

The all-alloy 4.0-litre V8 petrol unit is the latest development of a classic engine, providing effortless performance and smooth power delivery. The latest generation of the V8 engine gained a new crankshaft and pistons, revised cylinder block, a new engine management system and a new inlet manifold when the Discovery Series II was introduced. These changes improved the engine’s torque output and response – improving drivability and off-road control. The latest 3,950cc V8 develops 136 kW (185 PS) and 340 Nm (250 lb ft) of torque.

To suit unique market requirements, Discovery will be fitted exclusively with the 4.6 litre V8 engine in North America. Developing 17 per cent more power and 20 per cent more torque at 162 kW (220 PS) and 407 Nm (300 lb ft) respectively, this engine improves the performance of the Discovery giving a top speed of 116 mph and 0 – 60 mph acceleration of 9.5 seconds.

The Td5 diesel engine is available with either a five speed manual or four speed automatic gearbox. The well-proven five-speed manual transmission combines a fast and positive action with proven durability. Recent improvements have

included increased bush sizes, revised material specifications and changes to production techniques.

Standard with the V8 engine and optional with the Td5 is a four speed automatic transmission with dual mode operation. This electronically controlled unit features a high speed digital link with the engine management system to ensure gearchanges are swift and precise. The dual mode function provides for a Sport mode in high range that alters throttle response for a more reactive feel. In low range a Manual mode is available, allowing a selected gear to be held without shifting, allowing the driver greater control to negotiate a wide range of off-road conditions.

The Discovery has permanent four-wheel drive with a two stage transfer gearbox. The high/low shift is operated by a remote, cable operated control that isolates the vehicle interior from the transmission to improve refinement.

For 2003 a locking centre differential is available which, when used in conjunction with the dynamic control systems such as Electronic Traction Control (ETC), locks the relative movement of the front and rear wheels and helps prevent wheel slip in extreme off-road conditions.

4.0 litre V8


don’t think they understood my first “This is want you get for your 17 quid” speech of the day, but they did take a form away. From then on it was just mad. I can’t remember much but our stand front was 2 metres wide and we had 2-3 deep for most of the day.

By the time Sterling Moss appeared with his body guards and autograph hunters trailing behind him like the pied piper, we were all in need of a break.

I have to give him his due. I expected a quick 30 second photoshoot, but he stayed for 15-20 minutes or so, and chatted. Not a Land Rover man, but interested in what we’re trying to do, the history of our club and the cars.

Plenty of pictures were taken, and books and show guides signed before he left in a silver Discovery. This he continued to use all day, including the visit later in the afternoon to the posh (RRR) lot next door.

My attempt at lunch was cut short by the one and only club trip into the arena as part of the club displays. With 2 Disco’s, 4 Range Rovers (1 lightweight), a couple of series 3’s and a solitary Santana, which had to back out of the arena because of gearbox trouble, was not very spectacular but, in fairness, much of remaining arena displays weren’t either.

The crowd started to thin at around 4 pm, by which time we had only 2 sweatshirts, some rulers and bum bags left. LRO had already copied 50 more membership forms and we had run out of club stickers. By the time we packed up a 6 pm,

Lunch time Friday and the normal last minute rush to fill the gas bottle for the Cadac. My joint effort with Bill at Trentham and producing crêpes in France has convinced me this piece of kit has relegated charcoal to the bin.

Back at home, van loaded with awning, banner, gazebo and those bl**dy heavy pole stands, and off we went. Garmin switched on, A5, A14, A605, I knew that bit, then just after 73 miles and approaching the A1, I spotted a bobtailed RR. Follow that I thought; Garmin said left, but I carried straight on after the RR.

10 minutes latter, we arrived – at the OFF ROAD COURSE. Back to the A1 and follow the sat nav. A further 15 minutes later we arrived, exchanged our passes for armbands, and now to erect the stand. I knew Colin would be there!

The pitch was, for once, in a good position, on the main drag and opposite the main arena. Our stand sat one side of the impressive Range Rover Register trailer, the Freelanders the other, like bookends either side of a mantelpiece. Colin, complete with Freelander, was on the stand and I thought this would be interesting if only the two of us turn up. I should have brought the Jimny (only kidding). We set the van up and found the water; well actually I sent the children, so I presume it was the drinking water.

A quick wander around the darkening show, with its shut up multi-striped stalls and tarpaulin covered auto jumble, the dark quiet expanse of the main arena somehow juxtaposed by the bright and bustling funfair. As the sun finally set we looked forward to an eventful weekend.

7.10 am we hear a Disco pull up outside. “Who had arrived?” we thought as we emerged from our warm cosy caravan, the dew-covered awning obstructing our identification of the first of three Discos’ for stand duty. Emerging onto the showground revealed Adrian had arrived.

2 cups of coffee later (Colin now awake), the showground began to come to life as the covers were peeled back. The general ‘hum’ became apparent and the smell of bacon hung in the air. Our stand was also taking shape. Regalia had been supplemented by four boxes of the ‘Onelife’ Land Rover magazine, a box of 2003 Disco posters and some 2003 disco kiddies games kindly donated by a local dealer.

Our numbers doubled with the arrival of Frank in this 300Tdi, complete with the shiniest tyres I have ever seen. He was swiftly followed by Pete and his good lady, although even Pete will admit, swift may not be the best choice of words. Pete, who was camping with the LRO forum crowd, apologised for the clean state of his motor; the off road course was shall we say, less challenging than most of the major roads in the country.

9.15 am and we were still putting bits out when our first potential new members arrived, in the form of 4 French guys. Jessica sold them 2 key rings and a tax disc holder. I


33 brave soles had not only signed but paid up as well. A wide cross-section of Discovery ownership: Welsh, Cornish and Irish all figured, as did farmers, housewives, off-roaders, and businessmen. Oh yes, and a Wizard dropped in.

Pete answered countless questions of a technical nature when the rest of us failed. His ability to dive under any one of the display cars with the question-askers in toe was one of many highlights. One newly signed member even came back from the car park to thank him for advice on some electrical problem, now fixed.

We had our fair share of problems, mostly concerning Discourse. Many members took this opportunity to ask what had happened and why they’d not received their copy. The answer to this is I suspect is detailed elsewhere, but we did our best. A call to Kim at Abingdon for the cavalry to come to our aid with more key rings and things was made, and then we packed up after a good day.

Colin, Adrian and Frank went home, only Frank would return for the second day. He even offered to drive to Abingdon to pick up any bits he could. Pete went off to cook his Ostrich steaks with his forum mates. We cooked a chicken Korma, had a chat with our Freelanders neighbours who also had a good day, and then we retired to the van, totally worn out. The watery sun was now turning the clouds in the west to a pinkish hue as a quiet settled over the site, punctuated only by an occasional shriek from the fun fair and the bass thump from the live band in the entertainment hall.

As I dragged myself into Sunday, 6.30 am seemed like a wretched time. Still, I may need to guide the extra regalia in, or at least be up when John Frances arrives from Liverpool. At 8 am, Frank reappeared with extra membership forms downloaded from the internet.

Pete arrived soon afterwards, looking like any man does after socialising until 4 in the morning. As 9 am approached, John appeared with a flunky, riding shotgun on a moped. We busied ourselves with erecting the stand and those bl**dy heavy pole stands again.

My son then tripped over the Cadac, but I digress here... When Tim asked me to do this show, he also mentioned that we needed to do a risk assessment. Now this is the first time we have been asked for one, so if Marcus feels like suing me, he’ll be getting no Christmas present, besides which, he left it there!

So, with dramatics that would grace the royal Shakespeare company, the rest of my family went off to the St Johns fist aid post. 15 minutes later Marcus is back but Jessica, my daughter, had collapsed and passed out in the first aid post; they had trouble finding a pulse for a few seconds. So now, between ringing Abingdon to see where the cavalry had gone and helping with new members, I had Jessica wrapped in blankets in the first aid post. Retrieval meant getting the car off the stand, driving out against all the inward rushing crowd, carrying her to the car and returning, this time with the flow. Whilst all this was going on we ran out of forms again. To get the second lot printed, it cost Pete £5 and he wouldn’t say what else.

Overseas membership is not one of our strongest suits, but it may be getting better. Saturday morning, following the French guys visit, we had an Australian, who duly went away with a membership form. Sunday turned up a American couple from Michigan who’d had an interesting time with their V8. The US dealer had to replace the whole of their engine because when he serviced it, he found the cam was worn which caused a con rod to exit the engine whilst he tested it. (Sounds like the apprentice had been fetching the burgers in it to me.) We also gave a form to a couple from the Bahamas; I’ve volunteered to personally look after anything he needs in the UK.

The Cavalry by this time had gone AWOL, so we battled on the best we could, 2 pm arrived and went, and the mass ranks of people walking up and down in front of us was beginning to diminish. Frank, who we decided to enter for the best of show class with his shiny tyres, when off and did his thing in the arena, all to no avail. The Camel and Military boys walked off with the silverware. Kevin’s arrival from Abingdon swelled our numbers, and with less people asking questions at least we had a chance to look around. Lot of stalls, lot of gear and a fair number of non Land Rover stalls for the non Land Rover family members.

At 5 pm, I think we were the last club stand to pack up. By 6 pm a lot of the smaller stalls were nearly packed. We packed up the gazebo and those bl**dy heavy pole stands, took down the awnings and coupled up for the journey home. With darkness failing we said our goodbyes and headed home. The children falling asleep in the back and Lynn’s voice ringing in my ear “You aren’t organising any more shows, it’s too much”. Funny, but I think I heard this after the Donnington show back in February.

Fitting JackmatesRoger Spencer

Those of you with access to the Yahoo e-group or the new forum may remember me posting for information about jacking/recovery points for the front end over the last two months. I was looking for information on what was

available, ease of fitting and where to buy and at what cost (many thanks to those who replied). In the end I ordered from Dave Bowyer: one pair of Jackmates, a 90/110 adaptor and a mounting kit for my Farm Jack (more about that at a later date).

A pair of Jackmates retails for £59.00. Interested? Read on..


If you’re wondering what a Jackmate is, they offer a secure point to use a Hi-lift jack for lifting the front end, for attaching a towrope or as a recovery point. The first picture shows the offside Jackmate before fitting. From the left, the first three holes are for bolts with the larger hole bottom right being for the fitting of shackles for vehicle recovery. Above the large hole is a section of welded steel pipe, into which the adaptor slides when the jack is used, thus lifting the front corner of the Disco.

Each Jackmate fits onto the inside face of the chassis rails and requires a hole cut out of the valance under the bumper. This is very easy to do, I just used a pair of tin snips to trim the soft plastic of the valance. My Disco used to have a wrap round Bull bar fitted so to start with I already had small holes in the valance.

Two bolts fit the bumper to each chassis rail. These are used to fit the Jackmate via the pair of holes you can see just off-centre. The second picture shows the heads of these bolts as seen from the wheel arch. To use the new larger

bolts supplied with the Jackmate you have to drill out the holes in the bumper mounting which fits to each side of

the chassis rail. With the nearside Jackmate you use one of the bolts supplied fitted through the remaining hole and the bracket on the bottom of the chassis, as shown in the third picture.

When fitting to the offside, you use the bottom bolt of the steering box mounting. There’s no need to withdraw this bolt, just remove the nylock nut.

Each Jackmate takes around half an hour to fit and is easily within the scope of the home mechanic with few tools. You can see I used plenty of copperslip grease on all bolts and finished off with a good coat of waxoil all round.

The fourth picture shows the nearside Jackmate fitted with the holes for the adaptor and shackles showing through the valance.

Anyone wanting further information on fitting these useful parts to their Disco can contact me by email at:

[email protected]

200Tdi Headlamp ReplacementAlex Drummond

The weekly inspection on H 501 GRW revealed a stone had taken a lump out of the glass of the off side headlamp and the unit was now swimming in condensation. It was going to need a replacement unit and at only £30 each I decided to replace both. If you have an older Disco you’re obliged to replace both, as the old unit is no longer available from Land Rover. You can tell which type it is by looking at the lower half of the lens. If there are five semi-circular rings (like ripples in a pond) you have the older unit, four denotes the later version. Richards 4x4 of Crick duly supplied the new units and, looking at them gleaming in the box, I was slightly alarmed to spot that the adjusters looked different. If you find yourself in this situation don’t panic. The later adjusters, although different, are a direct replacement for the earlier model and are actually easier to use and probably more reliable in the longer term.

With a sunny day booked (don’t you love working outside; the sun on your back, the soft breeze, the mellow fragrance of autumn on the air……….OK I admit it, I don’t have a garage and yes I do envy those of you who can work under cover with concrete rather than gravel under the vehicle). OK, moan over, back to the mellow afternoon. The front grille is easy to remove but as all the bits link together you have to undo all the screws and lever the whole assembly forward to ease each out from under the bumper. Its an amusing game but not nearly so much fun as putting it all back together – of which more later.

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Pull the wiring connector off the bulb, ease out the side light holder then wind the adjusters forward until the bolts come out of the black plastic clips. Now, on the early model it is the stud that turns, and this is prone to rusting where it attaches to the lamp. Thankfully, there’s enough room to get a pair of mole grips at it (picture 1). With the adjusters fully wound out, the unit is held only by a ball and socket joint at the bottom, which needs a bold swift manoeuvre to release it. A long screwdriver can lever it out if it’s being really stubborn. Push out the old plastic adjuster clips - you’ll need the new ones, which look the same but actually revolve in the hole.

You are now ready for the new unit to go in. Here’s a tip: Before you put the new units in, wind the adjusters onto the studs to cut the thread clean. They’re stiff at first but ease up as you get them going. Wind them back until they’re just started and they’re ready to go in. To ease the ball back into the socket I dabbed a bit of copper grease onto it. A bold shove with the ball of the hand clicks it into position and you can align the plastic clips and then similarly shove them in until they click home. Place the orange adjuster wheels (picture 3)

on the back of the adjusters and start winding. With them wound half on, its time to put in the bulbs and connect up the wiring. Getting the side-lamp holder to stay in the hole while you fit the rubber cap over the main bulb is a fiddly game (I found swearing at it helped). Refitting the front grill is like herding sheep. All three bits have to align with the

seven rubber grommets simultaneously and squeeze under the front bumper, and locate on each other – the outer parts overlapping the centre piece. It’s a fiddle but only a couple of minute’s work before you get the screws back in the holes and the job’s almost done. With the car now reassembled and everything tested to make sure it works, you need to head in daylight to the nearest friendly garage to borrow their ramp and headlamp alignment device. It’s possible to do it on dark

lanes and so many feet from a barn door, but unless you really know your stuff its better to do it right once with the proper kit and just buy the guy a pint.

The contrast between the old and new lamps is quite noticeable and, if your reflectors are getting tired, for £60 and a couple of hours work it’s got to be well worth doing.

L318 Design and BodyLand Rover

When the original Discovery was launched in 1989, it represented a bold departure for Land Rover. The company’s first all-new shape since the launch of the original Range Rover in 1970, Discovery included many distinctive elements such as the stepped roof and the alpine roof lights.

But it was clearly a Land Rover, displaying many of the design cues that have made the marque famous world-wide – the upright stance, command driving position, low shoulder line, simple horizontal three bar grille and short overhangs front and rear for good approach and departure angles off road.

When the larger Discovery Series II appeared in 1998, although every panel except the tail door was new, it still retained the iconic silhouette of a Discovery. This distinctive profile is kept for the new 2003 Discovery but its front end styling is radically different.

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Taking the latest Range Rover as inspiration, the Land Rover design team has adapted the striking face of the world’s most luxurious 4x4 and created a dramatically different Discovery. Central to the new look are the ‘pocketed’ headlamps with twin interlocking dip and main beam projectors clearly visible behind a clear lens. The headlamp assembly is completed by smaller indicator and parking lights on the outside edge of the unit.

Although they provide a strong Land Rover ‘family’ link between Discovery and Range Rover, their adoption is practical as well as cosmetic with the new lamps providing far better performance in terms of the spread and range of the beam and in the evenness of the illumination.

The new headlamps are among a series of changes to the front of the vehicle and are complemented by a new elongated grille and revised bumpers with new integrated fog lamps. The new black three bar grille retains the simplicity of the previous version but has been extended to the edge of the headlamps to reinforce the strong vertical and horizontal elements integral to Land Rover’s design philosophy.

Beneath the grille lies an all-new, three piece bumper assembly, which has a revised profile to improve the Discovery’s off-road agility.

The central section of the bumper is black, matching the grille, and is flanked by end caps which are either painted black or finished in body colour depending on the model. The end caps are easily replaceable in the event of minor damage and also house the new Range Rover-style fog lamps: by mounting the fog lamps higher than before, they are less prone to off-road damage.

Visual changes to the rear are restricted to the revised tail-lights. The direction indicators have been enlarged and have been moved from their previous position within the rear bumper assembly to the main light cluster housing in the rear pillars flanking the tailgate. This move enhances visibility of the turn signal for following drivers. Reversing lights are now housed in the rear bumper display alongside the high intensity rear fog lamps.

Other external changes include a new alloy wheel collection, including new five and six spoke 16 inch wheels and a pair of

18 inch wheels styles. New roof bars with a thicker profile can be specified, which as well as being a practical load carrying feature, help define the new look of the latest Discovery.

A wide range of accessories have been developed in conjunction with the main design team and these complement the new look of the latest Discovery.

L318 InteriorLand Rover

The spacious and practical interior of the Discovery has been admired since the introduction of the original Discovery. The new Discovery extends this appeal with the introduction of three new interior colours: ‘Land Rover Black’, ‘Tundra’ green and ‘Alpaca’ beige. ‘Land Rover Black’ is used as a complete interior for a prestige look while ‘Tundra’ and ‘Alpaca’ provide high contrast duo tone themes. To achieve this contemporary ambience, ‘Tundra’ trim provides light and dark variations of the same tone while ‘Alpaca’ is paired with ‘Land Rover Black’ for the facia top and carpet.

Trim materials include cloth or leather for seat facings or an alcantara/leather combination. ‘Duragrain’ PVC is used for the third row seats and is also available on the other seats for the North American market. Burr walnut trim is available for the facia and centre console.

The new 2003 Discovery retains the versatile seating arrangement of previous models. Up to seven passengers can be accommodated in three rows of forward facing seating in a ‘stadium’ arrangement so that each row is higher than the one in front. This, together with the provision of high mounted ‘alpine’ lights, adds to the feeling of spaciousness that is particularly appreciated by children travelling in the rear seats.

All seats are equipped with three point seat belts, the front seat belts having pretensioners. The front seats also have ‘anti-submarine’ panels in the cushion and further protection is provided by driver and front passenger air bags. Electric seat adjustment is available for the front seats as are adjustable arm rests.

Passenger Air bag is standard


As before, the second row of seats are split 60/40 and jack knife forward under spring assistance to create extra luggage space. The second row seats also feature a centre armrest with a retractable head restraint that deploys when the centre position is occupied. The armrest also incorporates a pop-out cup holder.

The third row seats are securely latched to the sides of the luggage area when not in use. When needed to carry passengers, one or both seats can be swung down and locked into place. Safety latches prevent use when not properly deployed.

Both third row seats have full three point seat belts and head restraints. Child head restraints are integrated into the seat while those for adults are stowed in the roof and fold down when required. This arrangement means the restraints do not block the driver’s rearward visibility when stowed yet, by encroaching on headroom, compel their use when the seats are occupied by adults. Access to the rear seats is through the rear door. Seven seat models have a folding rear step fitted as standard to ease access.

Reflecting its practical nature, the 2003 Discovery has plenty of space for oddments with a large centre console box, glove

Hi-Lift DiscoAlan Smart

Member Tony Hardman spotted this rather tall Disco at this year’s Billing show and wonders if anybody knows anything about it.

From the detailed photos, it appears to have specially fabricated axles with portal-type hubs raising the ground clearance. There was no evidence of a maker’s name but there were similar conversions on Series Land Rovers back in the sixties. They had special diffs, as without them the wheels would rotate the wrong way!

The vehicle is left-hand drive but is that an Australian registration?

Any takers?

box, door bins and roof mounted stowage nets. The rear load space area has retaining rings to assist in anchoring luggage and loose items. The new Discovery retains the famous ‘curry hook’ – a handy catch on the passenger side of the centre console where a typical take-away can be carried without fear of the contents being spilled over the interior.

The level of equipment on the new 2003 Discovery reflects its practicality and ability. An intelligent, bi-level air conditioning system with Automatic Temperature Control (ATC) maintains a constant interior temperature, compensating for outside conditions and solar radiation. Front seat occupants may select their own temperature setting which is automatically maintained on that side. Rear air conditioning is also available with air vents located in the roof lining above the middle row of seats.

Several levels of in-car entertainment are available. The most advanced system, developed by harman/kardon incorporates a CD multi-changer and has 11 speakers fed by a 320 watt amplifier. Separate twin audio controls are available for rear seat passengers. This feature enables occupants of the Discovery to listen to two separate audio sources. While the front passengers listen via the car’s extensive internal loudspeaker system, those in the rear can listen to a separate audio source on headphones. An in-dash satellite navigation system is also available while the instrument pack has been revised with clearer graphics. The fuel flap release switch has also been relocated.

The latest Discovery is protected by a variety of security systems including superlocking and perimetric and volumetric sensors. The remote control for the locking system is programmed to open the driver’s door only at the first press to prevent unauthorised entry through the other doors. This feature is useful if the vehicle has to be parked in insecure areas. Also available is Park Distance Control (PDC) which gives an audible warning of obstacles when reversing.

Cup holders and ATC are standard


Worth the Gamble?Tom Partridge

A thought entered my head just over a year ago whilst I was putting down the base for my new wooden garage. I was thinking about the size of the doors, and that you never know, one day I might again have a Land Rover and I need to be sure it will fit.

There must be something in the blood. My father bought a 1962 Hotchkiss Jeep a couple of years ago, and he already drives a Nissan Patrol 4.2 Diesel which is in mint condition, as he’s had it from 6 months old. During my late teen’s, I’d been into cars of a certain theme. My first was a Morris Minor which I restored before I could drive, the second was a Fiat Strada 105TC, followed by an extremely quick Strada 130TC, but during the time I had these, I also had 50/50 ownership with my father of a Series 3 with full tilt. It was rough, but great fun. I had many a happy day driving the lanes around Wantage, including the Ridgeway, with a couple of friends with Series 1’s.

So what’s all this got to do with a Discovery? Well, the current Minor has been chopped in half (undergoing restoration in the new garage), The Fiat Marea is the everyday car and the Minor Van has done its work moving rubble out of the house (it needed too much work to be viable so it’s gone). Therefore we needed a second vehicle, and as I am sure some readers will appreciate, that is not an easy topic to broach if your partner’s vehicular requirements are, and I quote: “needs to get from A to B, have a radio and be as cheap as possible to run”.

After getting passed first base, a budget was agreed upon and regular checks were made on the Brightwells auction website to see what was coming up. I actually wanted a 110 V8. I’d checked a few magazine adverts and seen that they were quite well priced because they were V8’s and, as I do not plan vast annual mileage, seemed a good idea. (Plus I think a V8 is a good enough excuse!). After a few months a couple of V8 110’s came up for auction, so a day off work to go to the auctions was in order.

I arrived early so I could get a good view of the vehicles, far too early in fact and, with my Land Rover Owner International Buying at Auction Guide, I decided to sit down and take the first hour or so just watching and learning; plus 2 of the 110’s had not arrived yet and the 3rd was a rather significant MOT failure - the rear cross member being non-existent. I kept a regular check for the arrival of the 110’s. One did arrive after lunch and, like the first, it was fairly rough chassis wise, but the other never came (probably sold before it made it to auction).

During my walk round the vehicles I was impressed by the condition of the Discovery’s. Mostly high milers on J & K plates, going into auction for between £2700-£4000

depending on condition. No guarantees but I thought fairly good value, but also over my £2500 max budget.

However, a blue G plate V8 loomed at the back of the list, and was available to view. So I thought given it’s a V8, 106,000 miles and a bit dirty inside, it might be cheap enough. But I had no idea what to look for nor the areas to check. A quick phone call was needed to a work colleague, who has had Discos from day one gave me an idea of the main areas to check.

It was dark blue without any extra’s such as running boards, bull bars, etc., which was good because I’m not really into too much add-ons. It was grubby inside with a few bits of trim missing. Outside it sat on brand new 205 Goodyear Wranglers and Range Rover blue alloys. It looked pretty tidy. The chassis showed occasional surface rust but nothing major, and gearbox/engine had the usual few leaks. A test drive wasn’t on the cards, you don’t get the option at an auction. Compared with the other Discoverys and Range Rovers, it was quite tidy..…but what about my budget?

After missing out on a couple of diesel Disco’s, as they were too expensive, the V8 came into the bidding area. Here’s the crunch, it had a rattle coming from the engine, fairly loud. The trade buyers didn’t even look, so it was down to a few private bidders. As I had been researching V8’s I knew this could be the cam, or the overheads or end up being a combination of the lot, but it drove and if the price was right it might be worth the gamble. I’d learnt through the day to let the bidding go down and start coming up before you make your move, so it started at £3k, went down in £200 steps to £1800 then started coming up…..I was successful at £2300…however…..

You pay £500 deposit, then they ring the vendor to see if they will accept the bid. They didn’t, and would only accept £2750…..I said no way, a bid was a bid. But then as it was late and I had only bought a one way ticket, I went to have another look over it. It’s an awful feeling, shall I or not, what if it is a load of junk…and its already over budget! A quick call to the wife confirmed that the budget could stretch a little, so I thought if worse comes to the worst, I should be able to pick up a running engine for a song…so lets take a gamble. The new tyres and new exhaust did help tip the balance. Did it pay off?

Well, it drove home perfectly from Brightwells to Darlington, 250+ miles without missing a beat, just tapping away…and did 20 mpg! So far so good. The engine proved to be an easy fix, cam was OK, 2 overheads had worn through and a third was nearly through and one valve spring rotator was cracked. For a total sum of £50 including gaskets, the engine runs like a dream!

The rear wash/wipe didn’t work as with a few other things, but before I got into ripping off too much trim I checked


the fuses. Some missing, some blown. All were replaced and everything works. So, is this a good list for a 1990 V8 on Carbs:

• No wet carpet in the boot,

• No corrosion under carpet (that I can see),

• Back door doesn’t leak,

• Sunroof doesn’t leak at all,

• Heated mirrors still work, and

• Missing trim only cost £65 to replace.

For local runs around town I’m getting 18 mpg but a recent trip down to Abingdon at 70 mph resulted in 23.6mpg!! Honest – I check it very carefully – only tweaks are to dispose of that vacuum delay module and advance it up to 9° BTDC – given it’s the low compression V8, it takes it well with no pinking.

The last year has been spent eventing and laning with a friend who has a brand new 90. Events include Beamish, NERO laning day, Langley Farm and Abingdon as well as a day at Langdale Quest which made some good pics.

Recent replacement parts include that steering shaft that seizes the top joint, new brake master cylinder and wheel cylinder rebuilds and a rear suspension rebuild – ball joint was like a stick in a bucket! Kept the standard LR bushes, and the originals were in really good nick, but I changed them anyway. New De Carbon shocks made a massive difference to ride quality.

Conclusion....

I think the gamble paid off (Touch Wood). I reckon that judging by the previous mileage at MOT, it has been stood at a dealers for 10 months as they could not be bothered to fix the engine; probably fearing the worst. In the process they nicked some of the trim but luckily nothing too major. It’s just passed an MOT with no issues (well emissions were up a bit but a tweak on that screw fixed that).

Planned items include diff guards from QT (as seen on Disco’s at Abingdon), steering guard, and probably a roof rack (the roof is very faded so the rack will take the attention away from it). Currently at 112,000 miles and just been insured for £118 TPFT with NorCounty – excellent deal as I had quotes up to £800!

Any North Yorks, County Durham Disco owners fancy some Green Laning? I don’t know the area that well but I am desperate to get my wheels muddy, I know a few good lanes – some non-damaging, some that leave scratches.

Email me: [email protected]

Lane ClearanceTim Arnold

Sunday the 24th November saw Members of the 4x4 community from all over East Sussex gather on a small lane just outside Eastbourne. Earlier in the year there had been an attempt to place a TRO (Traffic Regulation Order) on the lane and between writing letters of objection most of us had driven the lane. However, during the summer most people seem to have stayed away, nature quickly took over and parts of the lane became impassable.

After a week of rain, Sunday dawned dry but overcast and 12 or so volunteers set out to cut back the undergrowth. Mike Jackson the local GLAss representitive brought along his trusty chain saw (with safety equipment) and quickly dispatched some of the larger woody growth. Due to the lack of fire cover, we were unable to indulge in the pleasure of a warming bonfire and had to stack what was cleared to the sides of the lane. We still managed to clear about half the length of the lane allowing light and air to get to the surface and help it to dry. As daylight faded we split in to groups of two or three and set off up the lane. Unfortunately just before the last two groups left the rain returned with vengeance. Luckly for those of us still left, one of the previous group realised that some would struggle up the steep climb at the end of the lane and waited to winch up those not running mud tyres.

We’ll be back soon to clear the rest of the lane.

Abingdon 4x4 Festival Video

Treasure the memories of the Abingdon 4x4 Festival (or see what you missed) on a full 90 minute video capturing all the fun and spectacle of the Discovery Owners Club showcase event. Filmed by Ken ‘silver machine’ Johnson, commmentry by our very own Simon Kay. Copies are a mere £10, including postage and packing from Kim Hollings, 15, Knowsley Crescent, Offerton, Stockport, SK1 4JB. All proceeds go to the Club.

Wheel & Cover For Sale

95/96 model new steel wheel rim only and genuine LR spare wheel cover with green oval, no dealer’s words, plastic spare wheel trim thrown in! - £30. Can be handed over in NW Kent, S Oxfordshire, N Staffs, N Derbyshire, Vale of Glamorgan, Wiltshire or East Lothian by prior arrangement. Tony Prince. Tel: 07710 040572, e-mail: [email protected]


Treasure Hunt with a Difference pt 2 - Paul Walker

In the last issue of Discourse, the first part of the story ends with Tim Kemp towing Donald home with me at the wheel. If you’ve got access to the internet, you can see how it all started, go to http://community webshots.com/user/vickyhill)

The fun started getting Donald up my driveway as close to the garage as possible. Luckily, I have a double garage and, after getting Tim’s Disco out from between my Disco and the garage doors, I set about rigging up the winch rope and a strop around the centre post of the garage. Using Tim’s Disco parked by the side of Donald to act as an anchor point, I then winched my Disco up towards the doors.

At this point the Wife came out and said very little. Strange that! Tim said his goodbyes and I was left alone with a very wet Disco and a not too happy wife.

The first thing was to sort out some space in the garage for the wet bits from the car and then set up some sort of cover to be able to work under. The garden gazebo came into use here (picture 1 below)

Over the next 5 hours the wife and I stripped out the Disco, all the seats, carpets, load space trim panels, the sound proof matting, and all the other bits and bobs that find homes in the family car. All this ended up in the garage and was allowed to dry out.

The Monday found me at work and visiting the local plant hire company just down the road from where I live. After a few jokes about shipping and water works, it was arranged that a gas powered space heater and a high output electrical fan heater would be delivered the next morning. This was a major expense but was knocked down from £120 to £54 for a week’s hire. Tuesday night found me in the garage, sorting out the matting and hanging it all up to drip dry, and setting up the heaters. The electrical fan heater was placed inside the car just behind where the rear seats were and left to heat the inside for the week. The carpets soon dried out and were stacked out of the way so the gas heater could get to work on the seats.

As the matting was still soaking wet, it was decided to bin it and replace with new. A list of various trim clips and other parts was made followed by a visit to my local Land Rover dealer. All parts ordered, it was now a case of working on the engine.

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The head was stripped down and all the pipework that goes with it. The turbo (picture 2) was awash with water. The intercooler was drained and I had to split down the complete exhaust system to allow all the water out (picture 3). At this point, it was about 2 weeks after the event. Nick Evetts arrived to help me finish stripping the engine and offered, very kindly, to sort out the head and the intercooler, plus a few other little jobs, like bearings that had come to the end of there lives (picture 4).

Whilst Nick had the head, it gave me chance to change the suspension from the tired and worn out originals and replace them with De-Carbons Shocks and Springs with a 1” lift (pictures 5&6). Also while I was at it, the rear work light was drilled and bolted on and it seemed like a good idea to clean and paint the entire floor pan area (pictures 7 & 8), which was done using Hammerite rust proof paint.

The dash was next for the strip down, as the matting is held in place by the heater matrix. This turned out to be a bad idea and was soon knocked on the head after talking with the dealership mechanics and to Nick Evetts and Paul Windsor.

The parts arrived at the dealer and after an exchange of nearly £465 I was on the road to recovery, NOT… Some of the parts were on back order and Land Rover was just about to do their change over from Uni-part to Caterpillar.

It was at this time that Chris Mayneord offered his help. Chris set about drying out the engine block and the top of the block, oiling everything and checking the starter motor and the like. After about 1 month the car was now in a position ready for the refitting of the head.

Acknowledgements: T. Kemp, N. Evetts, C. Mayneord and Rod & Greg at Land Rover in Droitwich for their patience and their help. To be continued...

Class of 93Alan Smart

I eventually got round to fitting the new rear screen to the Discovery that I picked up at Sodbury in March. I already had a genuine high-level brake light courtesy of someone I know who works for the company that makes them (‘nuff said!). I engaged the help of my mate Ken after Memsahib and I gave up on the job. Getting the old screen out was a struggle but trying to get the new one in was impossible, even with a new seal. Ken called a friend in the windscreen business and a quick trip to Salisbury soon saw the new screen in place. After some muttering from the fitter (“I hate these. It’s the curve at the bottom….”). We soon saw what we were doing

wrong – we should have used a mallet to fit the seal, the cord we were using was the wrong size and we didn’t hit it hard enough in the right place! For a contribution to the ‘tea fund’ we were on our way. Anyone need an early rear screen?

It then sailed through its 168,000-mile service without a single comment.

The Range Rover needed some rear brake pipes doing, as they would not pass next year’s MoT having earned a derisory comment on this year’s. As it’s ABS I left well alone and even though it was a big bill I consider it money well spent. We should really have had this done before we had the LPG conversion done as the tanks had to be dropped to get the main front to rear pipes in. It had been losing coolant at an erratic rate and I could not see from where it was leaking. I could see where it was ending up! Fears of a valley gasket or (worse) a head gasket were laid to rest when it was found to be the small hose to the heated inlet manifold. Since then, all has been well.

An article in LRO caught my eye. A chap had a 150,000 200Tdi and was complaining about climbing temperature on long motorway inclines. This rang a bell and I had seen this on mine during the summer and towing to the ARC. The cause is gumming up in the radiator. It’s had a new water pump and I’ve changed the thermostat but I think a new radiator is called for before the warm weather starts.

The One-Ten’s MoT was without too much drama. One swivel seal had a very obvious leak even when grease-filled. Heavens knows what it would be like on oil! The emissions test recorded a very creditable 1.08 (upper limit 3.00). My MoT man commented that 200Tdis are very clean if properly serviced and not run on cheap supermarket diesel. 300Tdis are not as good and he has even failed a couple of Td5s, which in his opinion, are not as clean as earlier engines. The moral is good diesel, regular oil changes and don’t forget to let the turbo spin down before switching off. Not letting the engine idle for 15 seconds before switching off can wreck turbo seals and bearings as the oil carbonises. How does that affect emissions? Well, all that leaking oil has to go somewhere…

And before you ask, have my One-Ten door seals come? Have they heckers-like!


Now! 2 treatments:1. KLEENtect for new or nearly new Land Rovers2. Waxoyl treatment for older Land Rovers

1. KLEENtect barrier & non-stick coatings for new(or nearly new Land Rovers)

Up until now you would have to be insane or have moremoney than sense to use a new Land Rover for heavy off-road use. Experienced off-roaders know that unless youspend up to 4 hours pressure washing the chassis after everysession – the chassis will be scrap metal in a couple of years.But not if you have the Before ‘n’ After KLEENtect treat-ment! Wet mud will just fall off the chassis! You no longerneed to clean the underbody because any mud which does-n’t just fall off when dry will no longer be doing any harm.If you want to restore the high gloss showroom finish justget any remaining clay or chalk mud off in a fraction of thetime with an ordinary garden hose then just sponge the chas-sis to regain the high gloss showroom finish. KLEENtect isguaranteed for 10 years – no conditions on use. Box sec-tions, doors and bulkhead (“A” posts), are injected withWaxoyl. Read all about how the coatings work on our web-site www.before-n-after-.co.uk

Shows “sticky goo” removed KLEENtect’ed underbody

Much more detail on: www.before-n-after-co.uk2. Before ‘n’ After Waxoyl serviceGuaranteed protection for new and old Land Rovers:

All serious off-roaders know how mud wrecks a LandRover chassis in no time at all. It causes severe rust. But notonly Land Rovers used off-road suffer this problem. Youmight be horrified to know just how much rust there reallyis underneath all that road dirt and muck on your chassis.Try washing a bit off then a have a look. See what I mean?The Only Solution: Before ‘n’ After Rustproofing inNewbury is the only real solution to this problem. With 15years experience and fifty thousand pounds worth of highpower equipment I can get even the muckiest and rustiestold Land Rovers absolutely clean and looking like someonehas spent 3 days severely wire brushing the underneath. (seeimages on: www.before-n-after.co.uk) I then inject all thechassis box sections, doors and bulkhead (A posts) etc with“clear” Waxoyl and spray underneath with black Waxoyl.Waxoyl “stops existing rust and prevents further rust”. Butonly Before ‘n’ After can give you a five year guarantee (“ifyou see any rust coming through the coating – bring it backand we’ll re-treat it free of charge”). There has not been asingle guarantee claim yet!Waxoyl price: s/wheelbase (90 etc) £390 + VATLong wheelbase (110, Range Rover etc) £420 + VATKLEENtect price: s/wbase £1,400 + VATLong wheelbase £1,600 + VAT

This is how clean we get it Shows black waxoyl coating

Before ‘n’ After RustproofingBorrow a courtesy car and have a great day out in

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2003 Events List16 February - Donnington 4x4 show Contact Lee Parkes and Chris Gorvin - 07774 963577

22 March - DOC AGM - BMIHT Gaydon Details included in this issue of Discourse

5 April - Spring Treasure HuntContact Paul Walker - 01527 404103

4 May - Land Rover Heritage Run - GaydonContact Garry Tredwell - 01235 520240 orTim Arnold - 01323 489003

18 May - Exmoor LanesContact Paul walker - 01527 404103

24-26 May - ARC National (Yorkshire) Contact Alan Smart - 01264 772851

21-22 June - Land Rover World ShowContact Neil Brownlee - 07768 366157

18-20 July - Land Rover Enthusiasts ShowContact Mike Duncalf - 01524 732128

12-13 July - Beaulieu 4x4 ShowContact Stefan Tapp - 02380 396591

25 July - Wroughton Nostalgia Show Contact Garry Tredwell - 01235 520240

23 August - Cotswold LanesContact Paul Walker - 01527 404103

6-7 September - Land Rover Owner ShowContact Chris Gorvin - 07774 963577

6-7 September - Langley FarmContact Chris Mullen - 01274 634166

21 September London to Brighton LR Run(provisional) Contact needed

27-28 September - ABINGDON 4x4 FestivalContact Garry Tredwell - 01235 520240

Date TBA - National 4x4 Show (Trentham)Contact Lee Parkes and Lee Jones - 0121 328 0065

Whats On - Tim Arnold

By the time you read this, it will already be 2003 - Happy New Year. The DOC is a club run by its members for its members, so if you want to see something on this page its up to you. We will be attending the usual shows and of course will be having our big annual bash at Abingdon at the end of September, which will be bigger than ever with something for all tastes. We now have monthly regional meets all around the country, but don’t feel left out if there is not one near you, just start your own.

In the last issue we where planning an event for the end of May, however as the date clashes with the ARC National, we will instead be supporting this. Also in the last issue, the AGM was also to include a social event but, as no volunteer has come forward, the social part will have to be postponed till next year (assuming someone volunteers).

We would also hope to attend the Dunsfold Weekend, Langley Farm, and Piece Hall events but as with those above that are listed as contact needed, without volunteers to take responsibility for the organising of the club stand we will not be there. In the past year there have been problems because of the lack of volunteers so it has been decided for 2003 that any event without a contact after the AGM will be removed from the calender and there will not be an official DOC presence there.

Apart from the usual round of shows the list is a little thin, I know I can rely on two or three commited members (they should be) to organise some more events through the year but there is room for many more. As an ARC affiliated club, we hold a Caravn and Camping exemption certificate which allows us to set up a campsite anywhere (with the landowners consent), so if anyone knows of a suitable location why not set up a camping weekend for members to get together around a camp fire.

Jim Ballance and Richard Towell are planning to enter The Exmoor Challenge which this year runs from the 4th to 6th April. Registration is £50 + £150 sponsorship. For further information ring Jim on 01823 480955 or you can e-mail to [email protected]. We also have several teams in the Macmillan Challenge, remember that even if you cannot join them you can assist them with sponsorship.

The most important date for your 2003 diary is September 27/28th when we are back at Abingdon for our third year. Planning is already underway with more attractions than ever. Simon Kay has willingly agreed to expand his responsibilities with the club stand and will be running a concourse vehicle show for those of you who just can’t put the polish down. Also we are planning to put on more for you to get involved in on Sunday. More details will be in the next Discourse and if you have an idea that you would like to see, please contact Garry, Kim or myself. Don’t forget, it’s your show.

Committee MeetingsUnder the rules of the club, members may attend, but not participate at committee meetings. If you plan to come along, please let Simon Kay (Acting Club Secretary) know in advance. Planned dates for future committee meetings are:

Sunday 26th January at NorthamptonSaturday 22nd March at Gaydon following the AGMSunday 4th May at Gaydon following the Heritage Run

If you have something you want raised at committee, please let a committee member know.


Regional Meets

Central SouthernLocation: The Packhorse, Milton Hill, nr Abingdon, Oxford, OX14 4DP.When: Third Wednesday of each monthTime: 7:30 pm onwardsContact: Garry Tredwell. Tel: 01235 520240, Mobile: 07802 495658

KentLocation: Black Lion, Southfleet .When: First Wednesday of each month.Time: 7:30 pm onwardsContact: Don Hoaglin. Tel: Awaiting details

NorthamptonLocation: Billing Quays, Northampton, (near Billing Aquadrome).When: First Thursday of each month.Time: 7:30 pm onwardsContact: Simon Kay. Mobile: 07887 626063

YorkshireLocation: The Stansfield Arms, Apperley Bridge, Bradford.When: Last Friday of each month.Time: 8:00 pm onwardsContact: Andy Myers. Tel: 01943 878330

North West / ManchesterLocation: The Railway PH, 1 Avenue Street, Portwood, Stockport, SK1 2BZWhen: Second Wednesday of each monthTime: 8:00 pm onwardsContact: Kim Hollings. Tel: 0161 480 7096, Mobile: 07831 541245

North Worcs / South MidlandsLocation: The Gate Hangs Well PH, Evesham Road, Headless Cross, Redditch, Worcs.When: Second Tuesday of each monthTime: 8:00 pm onwardsContact: Paul Walker. Tel: 01527 404103, Mobile: 07939 411995, Email: [email protected]

South Staffs / North BirminghamLocation: Moxull Hall Hotel, Holly Lane, Wishaw, nr Sutton Coldfield, B76 9PD.When: Last Thursday of each monthTime: 7:30 pm onwardsContact: Lee Jones. Tel: 0121 603 3632, Email: [email protected]

SussexLocation: The Sportsman PH, Rackham Road, Amberley, West Sussex.When: Third Wednesday of each monthTime: 8:00 pm onwardsContact: Tim Arnold. Tel: 01323 489003 Mobile: 07801 292024 Email: [email protected]

West of EnglandLocation: The Wheatsheaf PH, High Street, Winterbourne, South Gloucestershire.When: Last Friday of each monthTime: 8:00 pm onwardsContact: Post Vacant. Tel: Neil Brownlee.

WessexLocation: The Rack & Manger, Crawley, Hampshire (on B3049, midway between Stockbridge and Winchester).When: Second Wednesday of each monthTime: 7:30 pm onwardsContact: Alan Smart. Tel: 01264 772851

Advertising in Discourse

Advertising space will be available in future issues of Discourse. Advertisements can be whole page, half page and quarter page in either black and white or full colour.

Suppliers and dealers wishing to advertise in Discourse should contact Alan Smart for a Rate Card and details of space available.

Tel: 01264 772851, Email: [email protected]

Contact Nick Brooker on 01628 662566 if you would like help to compose your advertisement.

Small Ads for DOC Members

Members can place small ads for Discovery stuff in Discourse for free.

However, if you have a cottage to let or anything else that would bring in some income, then you’ll also be able to advertise in the small ads section but will be expected to make a contribution to the production costs of Discourse.

Contact Alan Smart:

Tel: 01264 772851Email: [email protected]

Discourse 10 - page 24Published by Focus TC - 01628 662566 Printed by Hawksworth Graphics - 01889 565234

100 yards from home! Editor’s Disco during the floods of winter 2001/2 during a lane clearing session - Photographed by Janet Smart

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