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Rahul


Can # get more insigt from te learned mem$ers of tis community tat !at appens ifte duststans %rd' (t' )t & *+t, ouses contains te de$ilitated planets

.s far as i /no! tat it /ills te evil effects of tese ouses

0ut in !at cases i confuses are as follo!ing 1

* 2oes tis de$ilitation al!ays result auspious in case of every planet !eater it is $enefic or malefic %functional or natural,

+ 3at result does te planet !ic is getting de$ilitated gives to te ouses !ic it

lords

3at result !ill $e of te de$ilitated planet in duststanas on its natural /ar/at!asand functional /ar/at!as

4 3at result if te de$ilitated planet in duststanas o!ns te good ouse li/e *st or "t

ouse

5earned mem$ers please tro! some ligt on tese issues

6anx

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NIKHIL

rahul

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#n sort

!en a planet gets deli$erated in a duststana li/e (t7)t7*+t ouses

*, #t is $ad for tat duststana in !ic tis planet is getting deli$erated-means a /ind of

neec$ang%#n te sense of tat particular ouse, or V89%if planet also o!ns a

duststana,- or simply good for te native% as te malefic :ualities of tat dusstana!ould get dissolved,

+, #f tis concerned planet o!ns a good ouse' ten its deli$eration%in dusstana, is alsomalefic for te significations of tat o!ned ouse%toug it !ill destroy te malefic

results of tat dusstana,

, #f tis concerend deli$erated planet also o!ns a dusstana' ten its li/e a dou$le $onan;a for te native%tis !ould prove to $e a perfect V89 and neec$ang ra yog-

$ot,

4, #f tis concerend deli$erated planet o!ns a $ot a dusstana .=2 . ??2 H?@SAten te results $ot points +nd and rd !ould $e expereinced

", =atural significations7/ara/atva of tat planet !ould definately suffer%since te planet

is deli$erated,unless neec$ang is appening in some !ay

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Rahul

Nikhil

7777777*, #t is $ad for tat duststana in !ic tis planet is getting deli$erated-means a/ind of neec$ang%#n te sense of tat particular ouse, or V89%if planet also o!ns a

duststana,- or simply good for te native% as te malefic :ualities of tat dusstana

!ould get dissolved777777777777777777

2oes only te malefic :ualities of te dusstana gets dissolovedBBB

3at a$out te $enefic :ualities associated !it te ouse %(t' )t' *+t,

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rahul..

$enefic :ualities !ill also get negatively impacted

May

ॐ wátí ॐ

2eli$erated planet is al!ays $ad expect !en its forming vipreeta raa yoga even ten

natural /ara/tatva of tis planet is silverly armed

i consider planet to $e in its mooltri/ond sign and virgorrama and not retrograde to $e

most auspicious planet

Axalted planet arm te t ouse from itself $ecause of its deli$erated accept so it is not

as auspicious as compared to mooltri/ond planet

May

NIKHIL

swati

# agree !it you

May

Rahul

wati

77777777777Axalted planet arm te t ouse from itself $ecause of its deli$erated accept so

it is not as auspicious as compared to mooltri/ond planet 77777777777777

From tis logic te de$ilitated planet sould give te $enefic %exalted, aspect to te touse from !ere it is placed B

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#f it is so ten one sould loo/ for!ard for de$ilitated planet in 4t ouse for good

carrierde$ilitated planet in *st ouse for relationsip' marriage to $egoodde$ilitated planet in rd ouse for Dt ouse %luc/, to $e goodde$ilitated

planet in **t ouse for education to $e good

May

NIKHIL

swati! Rahul

very correctraul

s!ati you sould ans!er tis point' even # also differ !it you on tis points!ati

Elacement of a planet is more po!erful tan its aspect %tat means if a planet is placed inlagan and aspecting t ouse from it' ten more of its influence !ould $e felt on *st

ouse !en compared to t ouse, and tere is a strong reason $eind tis concept

# !ould appeal all of youto read tiss!ati ' eac ouse as an extremely important connection from te ouse opposite to it

%li/e !e ave our most intimate relationsip !it our spouse-t ouse from

lagan%opposite,,3e all /no! tat eac planet as its o!n strengt troug !ic it nourises te ouse'it

is placed in%li/e !e ave our o!n strengt,' $ut apart from tis strengt a planet tries to

a:uire extra strengt from some!ere else also' ust li/e !en !e are do!n !e as/ for aelp or support from our moter' fater 'friends and SEAC#.559 our soulmate 'tisstrengt is /no!n as derived strengt

May

NIKHIL

"ont#

=o! tis extra derived strengt of a planet can $e of t!o types*, derived from anoter planet%5i/e #=HA8A=659 upiter derives it from /etu' Saturn

derives it from venus and rau ' moon derives it from upiter' sun and mars' venus

derives it from moon' /etu derives it from rau etc----# !ill discuss tis later,

+, derived from ouse%tis is our focus point specially t ouse-soulmate,



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May

NIKHIL

"ont#

.l!ays remem$er tat ouse and rasiGs represent our surroundings

9ou all must ave also noticed tat tere are =? $ig plants present in te fe! meters

radius- peripery of a 0# tree%from trun/,' tis is $ecause most of te !ater under tat

fe! meters of eart is consumed $y te roots of tat $ig tree and ence' scarcity of !aterfor oter plants in tat area #magine tat $ig tree 'as an exalted planet' 6e area on

!ic tis tree is standing is tat $ava7rasi in !ic an exalted planet is placed and 6esurrounding !ater scarced area as te opposite t ouse7rasi%or dependent

surrounding,I altoug tat surrounding area of fe! meters ave no $ig plants on it $ut $ig tree protects tis area from te eat of te sun' te tree also provide tis area !it all

its fruits%dropped on it after tey are ade:uately ripened, 5i/e !e protect and nourises

our spouseI6oug te !ater scarce area seems to $e less important %as it as no $ig trees on it, $ut

actually itGs te real strengt $eind tat 0# tree%since $ig tree is consuming te sare

of !ater of tat small area of land, 5i/e ?ur soulmate is our actual strengt,

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"ont#

6at is !y te extra strengt of a planet placed in an ouse depends on te !ell $eing of

te ouse opposite to te ouse in !ic it is placed and lord of tat opposite ouse%For

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us our extra strengt depends on te !ell $eing of our spouse%t,-as se is our $etter

alf,

6is is $ecause tat concerned planet derives its extra energy from te ouse opposite toit%!e derive from our spouse-er moral and pysical support,' =o! o! muc extra

energy a planet can derive from its opposite $ava !ill depend on its strengt in a current

rasi' $ava' aspect' conuction' navamsa status'2-(J status' sad$al staus etc%H?30# 6HA 68AA #S B or o! muc efforts !e can do to rise in life B or o! muc !e can

riseB,

6o rise ig !e need to put in our extra efforts and ence more energy !ould $e derivedfrom our spouse'te more !e rise'te more energy !e !ould need

May

NIKHIL

"ont#..

Similarly te more planet is near exaltion 'te maximum energy !ould $e derived from

our spouseor t ouse

6erefore !en a planet gets exalted ' it as te a$ility%if re:uired, to derive maximum

energy from te ouse opposite to it and !it te elp of tat energy' it tries to nouriste $ava in !ic it is placed

=o! tis derivation of extra energy' ma/es te opposite $ava !ea/ to some extent%li/e if !e are doing very ard !or/%*Jt ouse,-!e !ould not ave time to avail our personal7ome appiness from 4t ouse%opposite to *Jt,Ksame could $e te result of

te parameters of t ouse%spouse, !ile providing us te re:uired support lagan%#

means lagan,

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NIKHIL

"ont#

=o! finally

#n order to present tis concept in a simpler manner !e say tat ucc planet as a neec



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aspect---$ut ideally tis aspect is not neec or from te a$ove concept tat opposite

$ava does not go !ea/%!ile nourising, AVA896#MA

SAAMS C?=68.2#C6?89K

=? it isnt!yBB

let me explain furter

Averytime !ord ere refers to te morning of /no!ledge

.l!ays remem$er tat L3A C.= A=A8.6A @=5#M#6A2 A=A89 F8?M .=9

0H.V.' $ut tis generation needs /no!ledge

May

NIKHIL

"ont#

From ere our general astrological concepts ends and spritual astrological concepts

startsfrom ere te actual level of our cart comes into scene

Can someone explain te point !ic # am reffering toBB

May

ॐ wátí ॐ

i !ould li/e to comment on !at i ave said

Axalted planet arm te t ouse from itself $ecause of its deli$erated accept so it is notas auspicious as compared to mooltri/ond planet

mooltri/ond and virgottama planet is al!ays auspicious it !ill never give $ad result inany lagana or from any angel so it is al!ays auspicious one must understand tat in

(')'*+ ouse a planet in mooltri/ond sign give rise to saral' vimal' ars yogas

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o!ever uccaa plants does $ot good $ad result for different lagans so it not as

auspicious it can $e more strong $ut not as auspicious as compared to te planet in

mooltri/ond

ere i !ill sare my one more experience !it you

Huge po!er comes !it $ig responsi$ility po!er corrupts

uccaa planets so!s uge po!er #ndividual free !ill is not controlled $y planets

planets can only influence one free !ill $ut canGt control tem

# ave seen people flo!ing !it te energy instead of flo!ing tis energy in correctdirection

Aspecially in case of ucca mars people flo!s !it its natural tendency instead of

flo!ing tis uge energy in rigt direction

@ccaa planets are good if you are controlling tem' once tese planets starts controllingyou it can $e very very $ad

lot of experience is re:uire to clearly understand tis' tatGs !y i al!ays give importanceto a $onafied guru one can never $e a good astrologer if e doesnNt ave $lessing of guru

May )

NIKHIL

swati..

O# ave seen people flo!ing !it te energy instead of flo!ing tis energy in correct

direction

Aspecially in case of ucca mars people flo!s !it its natural tendency instead of

flo!ing tis uge energy in rigt direction

@ccaa planets are good if you are controlling tem' once tese planets starts controlling

you it can $e very very $adO

6is appens !en tis uc planet as a simultaneous malefic influence on it

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or !en oter planets in te cart are not complimenting tis uc planetin teir

respective antardasa'parayantra dasa' soo/sam dasaetc

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NIKHIL

swati

Olot of experience is re:uire to clearly understand tis' tatGs !y i al!ays give

importance to a $onafied guru one can never $e a good astrologer if e doesnNt ave

$lessing of guru O

# ave a $lessings7teacings of ?2' # dont ave a uman guru

Can any uman guru matc tat almigty teacingsBB

#f a person as a roc/ !ill po!er7onesty7patience7ard !or/' ten e can do7acieve

anyting !itout guru

9es te people !o cannot reac god' !it te elp of teir $a/titen ofcourse tey

re:uire a guru

May )

%irit.

Can any uman guru matc tat almigty teacingsBB

!ell tats a statement !ic can trigger argumentsMaata'Eitaa'uru' 2aivam

!ell do u $elieve in te teacings7preacings of EarasaraBB

y didn e/lavya prayed to god7made a statue of !arrior gods to give im !eapons/no!ledgeB instead ma/ing statue of 2ronaBB

!ell # $elieve every /no!ledge is incomplete !itout a guru



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May )

NIKHIL

s%rit

!at # personaly feel' # ave !ritten tat#t may sound odd'may sound !rong$ut tats

o/.s per me' guru so!s te !ay troug !ic !e can connect !it god%source of all te

/no!ledge, 'tats !y e is great

0ut !e C.=6 say tat god opens is doors only for tose !o as a guru

?2 is for all' !eter one as guru or note is al!ays ready to teac us in is o!n perfect !ayonly ting is person sould ave tat /ind of $a/ti and sradda !ic is

re:uired to esta$lis a connection !it te godDDP of te people dont ave tat /ind of $a/ti$ut *P of people can ave tat /ind of

!isdom'!ill po!er etc

May )

NIKHIL

s%rit

Oy didn e/lavya prayed to god7made a statue of !arrior gods to give im !eapons

/no!ledgeB instead ma/ing statue of 2ronaBBO

as far as tis statement is concerned

A/lavya !ould not ave lost is tum$' if e ad assumed ?2 as is guru

%od dont !ant anyting in return of is $lessings and teacing e only /no!s to give,

!ere as in tis case drona' on account of is o!n selfis reason

%tat is student arun sould not face any competetion from e/lavya and terefore is

name as an ultimate guru sould remain intact,

ta/es a!ay all tat ' !ic e/lavaya as earned troug is seer ard !or/ of years



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%$y as/ing is tum$ as guru da/sina,

Humans are al!ays full of malefic :ualities $ut ?2 is eternaluman guru can do some partiality $ut ?2 cannot

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=i/il

3ell tis !ill remain a point of differenceyou didn ans!er parasar parte imself

as told tat tis divine science sould $e studied under te guidance of a guruits nottat one !it divine $lessings cant understand itten you tell me !y lord Qrisna

imself !ent to a guru for learning#n all te incarnations lord made it very clear a$out

te importance of guru in imparting /no!ledge# am not saying one cant attain or grasp

/no!ledge !it divine $lessings$ut to effectively cannel te flo! of /no!ledge te

$lessings of guru is really very important

.nd !at A/lavya did is te $est one can ever do is devotion to guru made im so popularit !as is devotion to is guru tat made im so po!erful

and to addtis is ust my um$le o$servation and !at info u providing in tiscommunity is extremely elpful to many of us for # !ill al!ays remain tan/ful to you an

od

May D %( days ago,

ketan

6ere is no point reinventing te !eel

For attaintment of salvation' pat $ecomes $lissful and peacefull !it elp of guide

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uru is li/e god only to you cos e preaces te pat to god !ic e ave already

travelled

6ats !y attaintment of guru is seen frm Dt ouse !ic opens up your fortune and

intiate $lissful marc to mo/sa%Dt $eing *Jt to *+t,

0ut i !ould agree !it ni/il dat if you av *JJP devotion and fait no matter !ic

pat you travel od !ill redirect it to im

#f you closely o$serve instances of your life and planned elements in it you !ill surely

o$serve a pattern of o! god !anted to $uild your lifeHe is li/e a guru only sittin in

iger lo/s

May D %( days ago,

NIKHIL

swati

very correct

May D %( days ago,

NIKHIL

s%rit

O$ut to effectively cannel te flo! of /no!ledge te $lessings of guru is really veryimportantO

6is aspect can also $e acieved $y aving *JJP fait in god

O.nd !at A/lavya did is te $est one can ever do is devotion to guru made im so popularit !as is devotion to is guru tat made im so po!erfulO

yes $ut as/ing for a tum$ in guruda/sina%!as tat correct on part of a guru-dronaBB,



13/33

May D %( days ago,

NIKHIL

s%rit

Oten you tell me !y lord Qrisna imself !ent to a guru for learning#n all te

incarnations lord made it very clear a$out te importance of guru in imparting/no!ledgeO

lord /risna as taugt te rigt pat' $y going to guruas # ave !ritten earlier DDP of people cannot follo! te pat of $a/ti and faitfor tem @8@ is of @6M?S6

importance

0ut tere are people !o are self initiated'self !illedfor tem $a/ti is li/e a !ell

5ord /risna as also said in te gita tat 0H.Q6# is te $est metod to acieve im

6erefore for DDP people @8@ is necessary$ut *P people are temselves gurutey

dont need a gurufor tem ?2 is teir guru

May D %( days ago,

NIKHIL

s%rit

O3ell tis !ill remain a point of differenceyou didn ans!er parasar parte imselfas told tat tis divine science sould $e studied under te guidance of a guruO

correct for DDP people guru is necessary for learning a 2ivine science

May D %( days ago,

Rahul



14/33

'll

Coming $ac/ to te topic

3at i tin/ is tat first of all !e ave to understand te clear logic and definition of

exalation and de$ilitation' $efore going to te result tat !at result tey !ill inerrit

# came troug some !ords of sri EV narsima rao' !ic i found appealing troug its

reasons

May D %( days ago,

Rahul

O2e$ilitation is not $ad per seO

Axaltation is essentially a state representing te purusa %male, nature of

te universe #t represents aam/ara %ego, 6at is !y exalted planets are

a/in to a person !o is excited' easily satisfied and proud ?n tecontrary' de$ilitation is essentially a state representing te sa/ti

%female, nature of te universe #t represents pra/riti %nature, 6at is

!y de$ilitated planets are a/in to a person !o is patient' as a lot of stamina and !or/s ard

May D %( days ago,

Rahul

6oug exalted planets are normally tougt to $e strong and de$ilitated planets !ea/' te correct conclusion often re:uires a $alanced analysis .s

tey so! pride and easy satisfaction' exalted planets can sometimes so!

false confidence and fall .s tey so! patience and persistence'de$ilitated planets can sometimes so! success after ard !or/ 6at is !y

planets in /endras %:uadrants,' !ic are te places of Visnu %god of

sustenance and activity,' give neeca $anga raa yoga to de$ilitated planets' so!ing tat te patience and persistence pay off due to effort

May D %( days ago,

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15/33

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enerally planet so!ing a$iguous result in relation to teir postion $eing in exalted orde$litated postion are Saturn and Mercury

6ere is a reason for it '('*J'** are called upacaya stan only for tis reason6ese rasi $eing of saturn and mer in /alpurus circle reinstate te statement $y te sages

tat tese + planets are neutral in nature6ey gro! and nurture !it te individual

6e same can $e inferred for tese t!o planets and a su$ pra$av or uno$structive

aspect can give a good affect despite its rasi placement

6e oter planet generally givin good result in de$litation is marsMars is de$litated in rasi of moon $ecause mars is energy and moon recepting ouse of

all sensesSo if you dont ave a !ell directed moon ' mars is surely $ound to give neec

fal

So placement of moon in .iry sign or 2ual sign !en mars in /ar/a is $ound to give $ad

affect oter!ise mar in /ar/a gives lot of !ealt%mentioned in $riat ata/a, !ic is true $ecause Mars in moon rasi !ill continuously pus native for earning !ealt as Moon and

Mars relation al!ays indicate !ealt%as moon and Surya are t!o reference significator in

2-+ Hora /undli for !ealt !ic denote noting $ut overnment money%sun, and private money%moon,,



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ketan

nice tougts

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May *J %" days ago,

Ra( )ur(ar

ketan

does te mars in te na/satr of moon %roini, also force to te native to earn moneyBBB

and !at a$t marsRmoon conuction

mars R moon conuction al!ays good for !ealt in eac ouse or it gives good result in

/endra and trine

May *J %" days ago,

ketan

ra

9es

#n astrology results are seen cumulativelyMoon-mars is surely a dan yog $ut o$viously

a pleasant yog inTof ouses '!ill fructify more

May *+ % days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

3ell said raul' a native !o as exalted planets can $e easily excited' are proud and

egoistic itNs very ard to control suc uge po!er 3ell i tin/ no! its very clear to alltat mooltri/ond and virgottama planet is muc more auspicious ten exalted planets

May *+ % days ago,

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17/33

NIKHIL

swati

you are al!ays very eager to give te final conclusion

#f someone is not a$le to control te po!er of an exalted planet ten #ts $ecause of some

/ind of malefic influence on tat exalted planet or $ecause te cart of te native as a

!ole is not supportive or complimentary !rt tat exalted planet

#ts not $eacuse tat exalted planet is !ee/

Ho! many texts sould # so! you tat exalted planet are te most po!erful ones'if teir results are not eclipsed !it some or te oter malefic results

Elease go troug all my posts in tis tread once again

May *+ % days ago,

NIKHIL

swati

3at you are reffering to 'is @c$angunder !ic exalted planet does not so!s its

exalted results

@c$ang is noting $ut te ina$ility of an exalted planet to give its usual effects due tosome malefic influences on it

uc$ang can occur under folllo!ing circumstances1-

*, #f te concerned planet is getting deli$erated in navamsa cart

+, #f te concerned planet is getting totally com$ust due to its proximity !it sun, #f tis planet is conucted !it functional%(t7)t7*+t lords, or naisargi/

%saturn'mars'rau, malefics

4, #f tis exalted planet is also retrograde and no auspicious planet !atsoever conuct oraspects it

", #f te planet is in $ad avasta simultaneouslly in at least categories%tese tree

sould al!ays include $aladi avastas %categories of avastas-

agdradi'$aladi'laitaddi'deeptadi'sayanadi, ' ten also exaltion results are notexpereinced

(, #f te maadasa of an exalted planet is not present in te life time of te native ten

also tat planet !ill not $e in a position to so! its effects in full s!ing%=ote1- dasas are very very important,

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, #f te lord of te rasi in !ic a planet is exalted is very !ee/ or deli$erated' ten

also exalted planet !ill not so! its exalted auspicious effects

), #f tese 4 %atma/ar/'laganes'sun and moon , are deli$erated ten no planet underexaltion can give its exaltion results

D, #f te /ara/ of te ouse in !ic a planet is getting exalted 'is deli$erated ten also

exalted planet cannot give its exaltion results*J, #f te native is under te influence of an #=.@SE#C#?@S sadesatti and tis sadesatti

coincide !it te maadasa of an exalted planet' ten also exalted results !ill =?6 $e

expereinced6ese are te fe! rules of uc $ang '!ic # can remem$er no! !it godNs grace

May * %+ days ago,

ॐ

wátí ॐ

=i/il' you donNt seems to understand !t i am trying to say

#f you consider +' caran gra dristi' rasi dristi' agarla' transit and das upto dea

su$dasa you !ill find many conditions told $y you are coming true during different

time in life of individual

one need to carefully evaluate yogas !ic so!s criminal tendencies' self destruction'

ypocrite' ceater' suicidal tendencies etc

exalted planets give greater amount of po!er%even if tey got noting to do !it a$ovementioned yogas,

Eeople usually !it a$ove mentioned yogas experience muc more intense' armful

results if tey ave exalted planets in teir carts

o$viously if tis exalted planet is !ell placed ten it definitely give very good result

under associated dasa

as per my o$servation in many carts mooltri/ond and virgottama gra usually suppress

$ad result of a$ove 9ogas

if you tin/ tat i come to conclusions very fast ten i ave *J years of my experience R

"J years experience of my respected gurui

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19/33

May * %+ days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

# sould mention ere tat in vedic astrology !e didnNt consider

uranus' neptune' pluto

astrologers are also reluctant to include upagraas suc as

guli/a' capa' upa/etu' doom

tese are extremely malefic

for example' guli/a !it ucca moon can ta/e an individual to mental ospital

!at !e all /no! is very limited even if some people /no! someting interesting teyare reluctant to sare it 6ey ave n num$ers of reasons to ide it some say tat tat it

may $e misused

for example people ide te use of mool dasa or lagana /endri graa dasa inSastiamsa cart

#f 4t lord and 4t ouse is associated !it saturn' rau ten person !ill $e a ypocriteresult !ill $e more pronounced if saturn is exalted

i can produce many suc yogas as told $y me respected gurui for everyones $enefits

May * %+ days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

not to forget if exalted graa is elmed $et!een malefic

and if tere are t!o malefics%suc as saturn and mars, in *+ and ** ouse from teexalted planet

tese person can $e very evil

i /no! a person !it uccaa sun%/ar/ navamasa , in Dt and saturn mars in *+' ** from

sun e /ills every one !o comes in te pat of is political success

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20/33

May * %+ days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

e told me everyting e as done e said tat e simply canNt control tis tendency

saturn mars forces is sun to do suc evil deeds

i advice im to stop !earing mani/%sun stone, fast on sunday /eep imself a!ay fromred color al!ays /eep a yello! an/er

!o so ever as lagana elmed $et!een malefic as evil tendencies idden in im

!o so ever got is 4t lord' 4t ouse' moon associated !it saturn' rau !ill $e a

ypocrite

!o so ever got is Dt lord for lagana' sun' moon fall in (')'*+ accepted $y malefic !ill

do $ad deeds


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=i/il

3ell tis !ill remain a point of differenceyou didn ans!er parasar parte imselfas told tat tis divine science sould $e studied under te guidance of a guruits not

tat one !it divine $lessings cant understand itten you tell me !y lord Qrisna

imself !ent to a guru for learning#n all te incarnations lord made it very clear a$outte importance of guru in imparting /no!ledge# am not saying one cant attain or grasp

/no!ledge !it divine $lessings$ut to effectively cannel te flo! of /no!ledge te

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$lessings of guru is really very important

.nd !at A/lavya did is te $est one can ever do is devotion to guru made im so popularit !as is devotion to is guru tat made im so po!erful

and to addtis is ust my um$le o$servation and !at info u providing in tiscommunity is extremely elpful to many of us for # !ill al!ays remain tan/ful to you an

od

May D % days ago,

ketan

6ere is no point reinventing te !eel

For attaintment of salvation' pat $ecomes $lissful and peacefull !it elp of guide

uru is li/e god only to you cos e preaces te pat to god !ic e ave already

travelled

6ats !y attaintment of guru is seen frm Dt ouse !ic opens up your fortune and

intiate $lissful marc to mo/sa%Dt $eing *Jt to *+t,

0ut i !ould agree !it ni/il dat if you av *JJP devotion and fait no matter !ic

pat you travel od !ill redirect it to im

#f you closely o$serve instances of your life and planned elements in it you !ill surely

o$serve a pattern of o! god !anted to $uild your lifeHe is li/e a guru only sittin in

iger lo/s

May D % days ago,

NIKHIL

swati

very correct



22/33

May D % days ago,

NIKHIL

s%rit

O$ut to effectively cannel te flo! of /no!ledge te $lessings of guru is really very

importantO

6is aspect can also $e acieved $y aving *JJP fait in god

O.nd !at A/lavya did is te $est one can ever do is devotion to guru made im so popularit !as is devotion to is guru tat made im so po!erfulO

yes $ut as/ing for a tum$ in guruda/sina%!as tat correct on part of a guru-dronaBB,

May D % days ago,

NIKHIL

s%rit

Oten you tell me !y lord Qrisna imself !ent to a guru for learning#n all teincarnations lord made it very clear a$out te importance of guru in imparting

/no!ledgeO

lord /risna as taugt te rigt pat' $y going to guruas # ave !ritten earlier DDP of people cannot follo! te pat of $a/ti and faitfor tem @8@ is of @6M?S6

importance

0ut tere are people !o are self initiated'self !illedfor tem $a/ti is li/e a !ell

5ord /risna as also said in te gita tat 0H.Q6# is te $est metod to acieve im

6erefore for DDP people @8@ is necessary$ut *P people are temselves gurutey

dont need a gurufor tem ?2 is teir guru



23/33

May D % days ago,

NIKHIL

s%rit

O3ell tis !ill remain a point of differenceyou didn ans!er parasar parte imself

as told tat tis divine science sould $e studied under te guidance of a guruO

correct for DDP people guru is necessary for learning a 2ivine science

May D % days ago,

Rahul

'll

Coming $ac/ to te topic

3at i tin/ is tat first of all !e ave to understand te clear logic and definition of

exalation and de$ilitation' $efore going to te result tat !at result tey !ill inerrit

# came troug some !ords of sri EV narsima rao' !ic i found appealing troug its

reasons

May D % days ago,

Rahul

O2e$ilitation is not $ad per seO

Axaltation is essentially a state representing te purusa %male, nature of

te universe #t represents aam/ara %ego, 6at is !y exalted planets are

a/in to a person !o is excited' easily satisfied and proud ?n tecontrary' de$ilitation is essentially a state representing te sa/ti

%female, nature of te universe #t represents pra/riti %nature, 6at is



24/33

!y de$ilitated planets are a/in to a person !o is patient' as a lot of

stamina and !or/s ard

May D % days ago,

Rahul

6oug exalted planets are normally tougt to $e strong and de$ilitated

planets !ea/' te correct conclusion often re:uires a $alanced analysis .stey so! pride and easy satisfaction' exalted planets can sometimes so!

false confidence and fall .s tey so! patience and persistence'

de$ilitated planets can sometimes so! success after ard !or/ 6at is !y

planets in /endras %:uadrants,' !ic are te places of Visnu %god of sustenance and activity,' give neeca $anga raa yoga to de$ilitated

planets' so!ing tat te patience and persistence pay off due to effort

May D % days ago,

ketan

enerally planet so!ing a$iguous result in relation to teir postion $eing in exalted or

de$litated postion are Saturn and Mercury

6ere is a reason for it '('*J'** are called upacaya stan only for tis reason

6ese rasi $eing of saturn and mer in /alpurus circle reinstate te statement $y te sages

tat tese + planets are neutral in nature6ey gro! and nurture !it te individual

6e same can $e inferred for tese t!o planets and a su$ pra$av or uno$structive

aspect can give a good affect despite its rasi placement

6e oter planet generally givin good result in de$litation is mars

Mars is de$litated in rasi of moon $ecause mars is energy and moon recepting ouse of

all sensesSo if you dont ave a !ell directed moon ' mars is surely $ound to give neec

fal

So placement of moon in .iry sign or 2ual sign !en mars in /ar/a is $ound to give $adaffect oter!ise mar in /ar/a gives lot of !ealt%mentioned in $riat ata/a, !ic is true

$ecause Mars in moon rasi !ill continuously pus native for earning !ealt as Moon and

Mars relation al!ays indicate !ealt%as moon and Surya are t!o reference significator in2-+ Hora /undli for !ealt !ic denote noting $ut overnment money%sun, and

private money%moon,,



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May *J %( days ago,

NIKHIL

ketan

nice tougts

May *J %( days ago,

Ra( )ur(ar

ketan

does te mars in te na/satr of moon %roini, also force to te native to earn moneyBBB

and !at a$t marsRmoon conuctionmars R moon conuction al!ays good for !ealt in eac ouse or it gives good result in

/endra and trine

May *J %( days ago,

ketan

ra

9es

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#n astrology results are seen cumulativelyMoon-mars is surely a dan yog $ut o$viously

a pleasant yog inTof ouses '!ill fructify more

May *+ %4 days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

3ell said raul' a native !o as exalted planets can $e easily excited' are proud and

egoistic itNs very ard to control suc uge po!er 3ell i tin/ no! its very clear to all

tat mooltri/ond and virgottama planet is muc more auspicious ten exalted planets

May *+ %4 days ago,

NIKHIL

swati

you are al!ays very eager to give te final conclusion

#f someone is not a$le to control te po!er of an exalted planet ten #ts $ecause of some

/ind of malefic influence on tat exalted planet or $ecause te cart of te native as a!ole is not supportive or complimentary !rt tat exalted planet

#ts not $eacuse tat exalted planet is !ee/

Ho! many texts sould # so! you tat exalted planet are te most po!erful ones'if teir results are not eclipsed !it some or te oter malefic results

Elease go troug all my posts in tis tread once again

May *+ %4 days ago,

NIKHIL

swati



27/33

3at you are reffering to 'is @c$angunder !ic exalted planet does not so!s its

exalted results

@c$ang is noting $ut te ina$ility of an exalted planet to give its usual effects due tosome malefic influences on it

uc$ang can occur under folllo!ing circumstances1-

*, #f te concerned planet is getting deli$erated in navamsa cart

+, #f te concerned planet is getting totally com$ust due to its proximity !it sun, #f tis planet is conucted !it functional%(t7)t7*+t lords, or naisargi/

%saturn'mars'rau, malefics

4, #f tis exalted planet is also retrograde and no auspicious planet !atsoever conuct or

aspects it", #f te planet is in $ad avasta simultaneouslly in at least categories%tese tree

sould al!ays include $aladi avastas %categories of avastas-

agdradi'$aladi'laitaddi'deeptadi'sayanadi, ' ten also exaltion results are not

expereinced(, #f te maadasa of an exalted planet is not present in te life time of te native ten

also tat planet !ill not $e in a position to so! its effects in full s!ing%=ote1- dasas are very very important,

, #f te lord of te rasi in !ic a planet is exalted is very !ee/ or deli$erated' ten

also exalted planet !ill not so! its exalted auspicious effects), #f tese 4 %atma/ar/'laganes'sun and moon , are deli$erated ten no planet under

exaltion can give its exaltion results

D, #f te /ara/ of te ouse in !ic a planet is getting exalted 'is deli$erated ten also

exalted planet cannot give its exaltion results*J, #f te native is under te influence of an #=.@SE#C#?@S sadesatti and tis sadesatti

coincide !it te maadasa of an exalted planet' ten also exalted results !ill =?6 $e

expereinced6ese are te fe! rules of uc $ang '!ic # can remem$er no! !it godNs grace

May * % days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

=i/il' you donNt seems to understand !t i am trying to say

#f you consider +' caran gra dristi' rasi dristi' agarla' transit and das upto dea

su$dasa you !ill find many conditions told $y you are coming true during differenttime in life of individual

one need to carefully evaluate yogas !ic so!s criminal tendencies' self destruction'




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exalted planets give greater amount of po!er%even if tey got noting to do !it a$ove

mentioned yogas,


results if tey ave exalted planets in teir carts

o$viously if tis exalted planet is !ell placed ten it definitely give very good result

under associated dasa

as per my o$servation in many carts mooltri/ond and virgottama gra usually suppress

$ad result of a$ove 9ogas

if you tin/ tat i come to conclusions very fast ten i ave *J years of my experience R

"J years experience of my respected gurui

May * % days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

# sould mention ere tat in vedic astrology !e didnNt consider

uranus' neptune' pluto

astrologers are also reluctant to include upagraas suc as

guli/a' capa' upa/etu' doom

tese are extremely malefic

for example' guli/a !it ucca moon can ta/e an individual to mental ospital

!at !e all /no! is very limited even if some people /no! someting interesting tey

are reluctant to sare it 6ey ave n num$ers of reasons to ide it some say tat tat itmay $e misused

for example people ide te use of mool dasa or lagana /endri graa dasa in

Sastiamsa cart

#f 4t lord and 4t ouse is associated !it saturn' rau ten person !ill $e a ypocrite

result !ill $e more pronounced if saturn is exalted



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i can produce many suc yogas as told $y me respected gurui for everyones $enefits

May * % days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

not to forget if exalted graa is elmed $et!een malefic



i /no! a person !it uccaa sun%/ar/ navamasa , in Dt and saturn mars in *+' ** from

sun e /ills every one !o comes in te pat of is political success

May * % days ago,

ॐ wátí ॐ

e told me everyting e as done e said tat e simply canNt control tis tendency

saturn mars forces is sun to do suc evil deeds

i advice im to stop !earing mani/%sun stone, fast on sunday /eep imself a!ay from

red color al!ays /eep a yello! an/er

!o so ever as lagana elmed $et!een malefic as evil tendencies idden in im


ypocrite


do $ad deeds




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May * % days ago,

NIKHIL

swati

Oone need to carefully evaluate yogas !ic so!s criminal tendencies' self destruction'


exalted planets give greater amount of po!er%even if tey got noting to do !it a$ovementioned yogas,


results if tey ave exalted planets in teir carts O

H.8MF@5 results appen under te yogs !ic # ave stated a$ove not oter!ise

Oo$viously if tis exalted planet is !ell placed ten it definitely give very good resultunder associated dasaO

rigt tis is !at # am saying

Oas per my o$servation in many carts mooltri/ond and virgottama gra usually suppress

$ad result of a$ove 9ogasO

o$viously no dou$t in tat' if exalted planet is under some malefic influence ' s!arasi or

mooltri/ond gra !ic is involved in some good yog !ill try to cancel it out

Oif you tin/ tat i come to conclusions very fast ten i ave *J years of my experience R

"J years experience of my respected gurui O

dear' !en you are discussing someting' dont $ring your expereince in $et!een ust to

prove sometingAxpereince and ard !or/ are not told' tey are felt

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NIKHIL

swati

O#f 4t lord and 4t ouse is associated !it saturn' rau ten person !ill $e a ypocrite

result !ill $e more pronounced if saturn is exaltedO

=o! tis !at # call ' s/iping tings !ile reading

ust go troug te rd point in my latest post# ave also stated te S.MA ting

#t says !en an exalted planet com$ines !it a natural or functional malefic' it !ill notgive auspicious results

# tin/ you /no! tat 8au is a malefic ' and ere saturn is exalted !en $ot are

conucted o! can te auspicious result of exalted planet%ere saturn, come to passBB

May * % days ago,

NIKHIL

swati

Onot to forget if exalted graa is elmed $et!een malefic



i /no! a person !it uccaa sun%/ar/ navamasa , in Dt and saturn mars in *+' ** fromsun e /ills every one !o comes in te pat of is political success O

you are again and again repeating te same tings !ic # ave already stated in one

line

8A.2 again carefully te rd point of my latest post

3en an exalted planet is emmed $et!een malefics?0V#?@S559 it !ill give $ad

intense results

# tin/ you dont read my posts carefully

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May * % days ago,

NIKHIL

swati.

O!o so ever as lagana elmed $et!een malefic as evil tendencies idden in im


ypocrite


do $ad deeds O

.ll tese tings are correct' $ut !e are discussing a$t exalted planets

May * % days ago,

ॐ wátí

ॐ

=i/il' i tin/ you didnNt read my previous post carefully

# am saying tat mooltri/ond and virgottama planet is more auspicious ten exalted

planet Axalted planet can $e strong $ut not as auspicious

you are saying tat exalted planet is more auspicious tat mooltri/ond and virgottama planet

3ic is not correct

May * % days ago,

NIKHIL



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swati

VA8SAS "D-(J capter * of 0EHS

*+-60. Ratio o, ,,e"ts. ' lanet in e/altation ies ,ull2 oo# e,,e"ts! while in

3oolatrikona it is bere,t o, its aus%i"ious e,,e"ts b2 one ,ourth. It is hal, bene,i"ial inits own House. Its bene,i"en"e is one ,ourth in a ,rien#l2 R5i. In an euals R5i one

eihth o, aus%i"ious #is%osition is use,ul. 7he oo# e,,e"ts are nil in #ebilitation! or

ene829s "a8%. Inaus%i"ious e,,e"ts are uite reerse with re,eren"e to what is

state#.

debilitation in dushtsthanas

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