death and the astral realms

a special presentation by

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astral realms

Geoffrey & linda Hoppe

A special presentation by

Geoffrey & Linda Hoppe

Presented September 21, 2011online at

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3Death and the Astral Realms

GEOFF: Welcome everybody to this special edition at Global Teleclass. Im Geoffrey Hoppe, and I am delighted to be here tonight, even though the subject matter were going to be talking about is, well, a little bit tentative, I guess. Im here with my beautiful wife Linda Lindas on the other line Linda, can you hear?

LINDA: You bet I can, and Im excited about this, because actually its a great topic because its an area that really, people really want to have a sense of more.

GEOFF: Absolutely, and just to let you know to kind of set the picture I was listening in to some of you talking with each other just before we started the program as we were getting ready, and the reason why suddenly you couldnt hear each other was because I put you all on mute. Sorry to do that, but it gets a little confusing otherwise.

Linda and I are in a place called Black Hawk, Colorado. Were at the Ameristar Hotel, and the reason were here is weve got a two-day meeting with our staff over the next few days. And you know, Im kind of excited about that because our staff all works from home. We have eleven people all working from home, and we get together every once in a while like this just to talk about whats going on and talk about the Crimson Circle and the business that we have. So Linda and I are here at the Ameristar Hotel. So not quite like being at home, is it Linda, where we know all the equipment and we know the surroundings.

LINDA: No, but we travel a lot, so, you know, I can make the best of this actually.

GEOFF: Kind of get used to it. Well, we want to thank everyone for being here tonight. We know that there are people out there, because I heard you all talking, and it sounded like there was somebody from Russia, somebody from Spain.

LINDA: Wow.

GEOFF: Yeah, definitely from the United States. And Im going to ask you, if you would, to you might even want to write down this email address if you would, just send us a quick email, first of all, to let us know you can hear okay. Were used to our equipment at home. I just dont know how the sound is coming here. And also, if you want, let us know where youre from. That email address is [email protected]. And Linda did you want to repeat it for them?

LINDA: Well, Im sure I can. Im looking at the screen and it is [email protected]. And Ive got that open so that if you have a question, you might want to also say right in the subject line that you have a question, and well try to keep that going so that I can monitor to see if you have specific questions related to this very special DreamWalker Death topic.

GEOFF: Yeah, were going to try to take the last 15 minutes just for questions. And, well, because of that I know theres a lot to cover tonight. So Im going to dive right in.

A couple of just quick announcements, first of all. Again, thanks everybody for being online and listening.

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We want to thank the Global Teleclass, which is through Hilton and Lisa Johnson, for providing this. I think this is our what is it, Linda our fifth or sixth time doing a class here. They do an amazing job of reaching out around the world with information about, whether its spirituality, business, personal development or anything like that. I just want to extend a special thanks to them for doing that.

LINDA: Well, and I do hear one person asking that Geoff could you be sure to speak up.

GEOFF: Okay, I will. And, see, thats why I actually, on our own radio network called the Awakening Zone, theres actually a chatroom and people can just chat live right then and there, and they can say, I cant hear you, or I can hear you, and, of course, I dont want to speak too loudly, because I dont want people saying, Oh, gotta turn down that voice! So anyway, yeah, do send in an email. Just let us know if you can hear or not hear, and later on well do questions.

LINDA: And thank you. Ive received 46 emails already from people all over telling us where theyre from, and then a few people hoping that were going to talk about the Near Realms.

GEOFF: The Near Realms, yes, and you know, its kind of appropriate. Were coming up on Halloween season, so why not?

And just one other quick thing. If you want to check out our website, it is www.crimsoncircle.com. Theres a lot of free information on the website, and theres also a lot more information about DreamWalker Death, which is kind of what were talking about tonight. Were talking about Death and the Astral Realms, but theres a very specific class that is offered by Crimson Circle called DreamWalker Death.

So, lets get right into it. I do want to let everybody know that the information that were going to be talking about during this show comes to us from Adamus Saint-Germain. He presented a course called DreamWalker Death, actually presented it with us around the world numerous times. I think, Linda, weve probably done that particular class about six or seven times live and then it was videotaped.

But this is information that Adamus Saint-Germain gave to us, communicated through us and

LINDA: Adamus Saint-Germain (French pronunciation). He wants your French to be better.

GEOFF: Well, then you would say Adamus Saint-Germain (in a very good French pronunciation).

LINDA: Oh there I just heard a clap from the other side.

GEOFF: (chuckling) But, well, Im in the U.S. I can use my U.S. accent.

LINDA: He just doesnt like the Wisconsin accent on his name.

GEOFF: Absolutely. So DreamWalker Death is a class that has been given numerous times, and its now offered by certified teachers all around the world. So a lot of what youre going to hear tonight was absolutely new information to Linda and I when we first started delivering this, what was it, about four years ago?

LINDA: Mm hmm.

GEOFF: And just to let you know, Linda and I come from a Midwest United States Catholic background, so we really didnt have this type of vision of death and what happens in the astral realms.


LINDA: Oh, just heaven and hell, and weve been promised both by church leaders and family. (she giggles)

GEOFF: Absolutely. And really the purpose, the reason why Adamus did the DreamWalker Death course, was really to give people a better understanding about the death process. Theres really not a lot of what I would call wonderful information. Theres some, yes, but not a lot of information that helps people to understand really what happens when they die, and information that doesnt have a religious bias to it.

LINDA: Well, or a lot of fear attached to it and threat.

GEOFF: Oh, absolutely. And part of the reason Adamus did the DreamWalker Death was also during this its actually a three-day school he trains people how to become a DreamWalker Death practitioner. And what that basically is is people are trained to assist people when theyre crossing over, which could be if theyre in hospice, the time period before they die, but then particularly it kicks in once theyve crossed over to the other side. And theyre trained how to do it, things not to do, and theyre trained more than anything how to get back here to this reality, because basically theyre expanding their consciousness, going into the other realms, and you want to be able to come back.

LINDA: Well, he really helped us to see that you can truly be a support in someones journey on both sides.

GEOFF: Absolutely. And Linda, were there any emails about the sound quality? Can everybody hear okay?

LINDA: It seems like everythings okay now.

GEOFF: Oh great. Good, good.

LINDA: And we have places weve got Brazil, Australia, Lithuania. Theyre coming past faster than I can count them out. Mexico City, Canada, London, everywhere. really quite sweet and amazing New Zealand, Switzerland, everywhere.

GEOFF: Oh, thats amazing, because it also sets a wonderful energy just for

LINDA: It is.

GEOFF: Well, you know, this hour that were spending together is more than just you listening and Linda and I talking. Were literally creating an energy, or, as Adamus would say, a dimension together. And I also happen to know, from an experience just before we started tonight, that there are other beings joining us, ones who have just crossed over, ones who are interested in the subject matter, and literally angelic beings on the other side who work in the death transition. And well talk tonight about why its actually easier for us to do it than the angelic beings to do the death transitions.

LINDA: Its very fun too. Theres quite a few of our own DreamWalker Death teachers that are listening in, and thats pretty fun too, because their energys great since theyre so familiar with the material.

GEOFF: But I have to mention just as a side note, when I checked into the hotel tonight, I was talking to the lady at the registration. She was just kind of chatting on, and out of nowhere out of absolutely nowhere she said, You know, a lot of people die here in this hotel.

LINDA: What?!


GEOFF: My mouth dropped open. I couldnt believe it, and I said, What are you talking about? She said, Oh yeah, just the other day there was a lady, a husband and a wife, you know, elderly, and they were third in line to check in and suddenly he dropped dead. And Im like, Youre kidding! And she said, Oh no. We get that quite a bit here. And I was wondering, Why is she telling me this? I mean, just out of the blue, because ordinarily that would be enough for me to, you know, check into a different hotel. And then I had to laugh, because I could feel Adamus hanging around

LINDA: Winking.

GEOFF: winking and going And she said, as a matter of fact, that somebody just died the other night in their sleep here in the hotel. And Im like, Oh my gosh.

LINDA: Geoff, I must have seen a half dozen people on oxygen just walking through the lobby. I mean, it has kind of got that energy.

GEOFF: But then later on

LINDA: Hah! But then!

GEOFF: I stepped outside for a just a moment, and suddenly a fire truck and an ambulance pulled up, and they pulled out the stretcher, but they were going really, really slow. I mean, they didnt seem to be in any particular hurry, and I was kind of scratching my head, and somebody who was also standing there commented to me kind of under their breath, said, Oh, they must have already died. Too late for these emergency people to be rushing around. Im like, Oh, my gosh.

So I know that there are other energies joining us here tonight, as we talk about this very important subject death. Its a process that obviously we all go through. Really not a lot of information, because, well, usually when you cross over to the other side, its rather difficult to communicate back to this side. And Linda, it sounded like you were going to say something.

LINDA: Well, I was, but I was just going to say lets get down to the basics, because I found this material incredibly helpful to me, because it allowed me to feel into something that made far more sense to me, made me more comfortable, and the most incredible thing is, you know, we all know people and its so awkward to be there in support of these journeys, especially when they transition if theyve been sick or, you know, if theyre older. And it just really empowered me, made me feel like I really could talk to people from a heart place, from a place they would really, really connect to.

GEOFF: Well, death is one of those subjects that people dont like to necessarily talk about. You dont hear a lot of it on television unless its some drama and somebody dies but I mean the literal discussion of death, because its a little uncomfortable and people would rather talk about, you know, other fun things. But I think inevitably we all face that. You know, what does happen? And I have to tell you, just from my own personal experience, as soon as Adamus gave this course called DreamWalker Death, most of my fear about dying went away.

LINDA: Yeah, mine too.

GEOFF: Because, first of all, it was very familiar information. Its like Id heard it before, but I never knew it. And then secondly the way he explained it takes a lot of the fear and a lot of the doubt.


LINDA: Right.

GEOFF: Now, I have to admit that it brings up a lot of new questions, but it takes a lot of the fear out. And the other thing is most of us alive here right now other than the departed ones who are lingering around as were talking most of us know someone whos died. Weve had intense feelings and experiences when we heard about their death. Sometimes some of you listeners had a feeling that they were going to die shortly before they did, even if they werent sick. And particularly after the loved one or person close to you died, a lot of times you kept on having feelings or thoughts about them, and theres a very, very good reason why.

So lets talk a little bit about the different phases. Were going to talk about pre-death; were going to talk about immediately upon death; then were going to talk about what happens in the oh, lets say the one to two weeks right after death; and then what happens beyond that. And were going to focus more on the second and third portions what happens when a person first crosses over, and then what happens in the astral realms, particularly in those first weeks right after death.

LINDA: And Geoff, I think we should put a reference based to some of the feedback Im seeing coming through the emails. Theres some curiosity about is it reasonable to be exploring these realms, these areas, before youre dead?

GEOFF: Well, lets do this. Lets answer that at the end

LINDA: Good.

GEOFF: because I would have to talk about where were going in this in order to address that.

LINDA: Good.

GEOFF: But thats an excellent question. Id just give you a real rough answer: generally not unless you know what youre doing. Its not a place you want to go play, and Ill make kind of a summary statement right here at the beginning: its not a place where you want to go out and try to save lost souls, not at all. I do not recommend that, unless you are highly trained in going out there. And, hopefully, by the end of this show youll understand theres really not a need to do that either.

So lets talk about the first stage, pre-death. According to Adamus, at a soul level, you know, a few days or a few weeks ahead of time, that its going to be the end for you in the physical reality. Your brain might not know it and your humanness might not know it, but a part of you is already starting to disconnect. Youre starting to kind of untie some of the knots that keep you into physical reality. And this is true not just in the case of getting old or having a disease or something like that, but according to Adamus, even in the case of accidents, because at a soul level there has been a choice made that youre going to be departing. You, as a human, may not know it, but another part of you does. So youre slowly untying some of the knots.

Now, a good example or bad example, depending how you look at it was when at 9/11, September 11, 2001. And according to the beings that Linda and I communicate with, every one of those people involved in the 9/11 tragedy, at some level within them, knew that this was going to occur. That being said, there were people who normally work in those buildings who, for some reason, on that date were delayed or called in sick to work or just werent there on time, because at a soul level they werent ready to depart.


Adamus makes a very clear point that because, at a soul level, even in the case of accident or war or things like that, your soul already knows its ready to leave, that the level of pain and fear is generally greatly reduced because of this. And he says a lot of times that, in the case of an accident, that so much of the spirit essence has already left the body that it really doesnt experience the pain and the shock and the trauma. The physical biology does, but at a soul level, and even into a human level, the being doesnt experience the kind of pain we normally fear. So, in a way, its a good thing to know.

Now, Ive asked him questions and said, Well, is there a specific date when my time is up or anybody else? He says, No theres not a date. At a certain level theres a soul agreement that youre going to stay here on Earth for a certain length of time, but it can always be extended. You know, and if the human passion, the love of life is enough that even though you might have had like a soul-type of agreement to leave when you were 68 years old, that can often be extended. But sooner or later your soul kind of knows when its going to leave.

Linda, any comments on that?

LINDA: No. I think that thats a very interesting fact, because we do have choices, so to speak, and its not final that were constantly creating.

GEOFF: Right, and theres not a date thats written in stone, you know, coming down from God or angelic beings or anything. Its really a soul to self agreement. Theres not a destiny. You dont have a destiny that you have to die a certain way. And, quite frankly, if youre really interested in what that soul journey is, you can go within yourself. You dont need anybody to do it for you, you just have to be able to listen very quietly. And remember, the soul doesnt talk in human words. It talks and it communicates with you in terms of feelings. Its not in English or Russian or French, but its a knowingness that you feel. And in that communication with your own self, you can choose a longer life than what you might have originally planned when you came into this incarnation. And, even more importantly, ultimately you can choose, in a way, how you want to die, how you want to leave.

Now, Adamus says that most people leave with disease, old age, the biology just giving out or an accident or something like that. He says in his last lifetime on Earth, he literally decided at a certain point that he had done all he wanted to do here. He said he took the last two years of his last lifetime and just went out into nature and totally enjoyed, stayed in the quiet by himself to be with him and to really feel into life. And when he said when he was ready, he literally just walked out of his body. Just easily, just stepped out and said, Goodbye. There was no anguish and no pain and none of the You know, I think the way most people die now is a little bit sad. I mean, they keep trying to hold on and hold on, and in doing so I think sometimes theres also a lot of fear.

LINDA: Well, again, I think thats why its so important to share, that if people can see that they can love themselves and make this journey without judgment and know that its okay, theres so much that we can offer to take that fear away and that sadness. I knew a friend, that, you know, was not a particularly great person in terms of the way humans judge things and was incredibly afraid to die, because they kind of, based on the way they were brought up religiously, they were pretty much afraid they were going to hell. So we can be there to support people to get them to see that there are other potentials.

GEOFF: Oh absolutely. And now lets talk about what happens immediately upon death I mean at that moment of death and I think this is a very, very important point. For most people most people that there is a sudden and tremendous feeling of release. And like if you can imagine the euphoria of suddenly not having a body thats aching or not being held in physical reality, its a tremendous sense of release.


I know when my brother died a couple of years ago I did a DreamWalk with him and this is the thing were talking about here, doing the DreamWalk facilitation connecting with him, which I did before he died, and at that point of death, I had asked him, What was that like? And he said, It was like being high without drugs. It was like total liberation and freedom from the physical reality, and he said, It was the most amazing experience. And he kind of laughingly said, Boy, Id do that any day! and I was like No, you dont want to go through that too often.

And what Adamus says about it is there is that white light experience that so many people who have had a near death experience have felt. The white light, according to Adamus, is that overwhelming amazing liberation, and at that point there is a euphoria. And he said literally what happens at that point of death, when the spirit releases the last fragment of holding onto the physical body, that you immediately change the way you bring energy into your consciousness.

When youre here in the human body and operating as a human, there are certain portals or corridors, certain ways that energy is brought in to your physical body and then processed through your DNA into the cells and into the blood and eventually into your physical reality. But he said the minute you disconnect that last strand thats holding you in the physical body, suddenly its like completely switching to a new power system in other words, the way you bring in energy and he said that in itself creates an amazing high, because its much more efficient, much more clear, and you dont feel the inhibitions of the body and part of the mind that you normally would.

Adamus states that its like a very incredible dream state thats very, very real. You know, its not the fuzzy murky kind of dreams or scratching your head, but he said you feel like youre in a dream. He said its almost like a spiritual orgasm, because its just that amazing release that takes place. And actually, he said, a lot of people want to stay in that. They dont want to leave that, because its so incredible. And he said most people then also remember at that point that theyve done this many times before. That takes out quite a bit of the fear that youve had.

Now, he said that they dont necessarily consciously acknowledge that they have lived lifetimes and died lifetimes before, but it is an extremely familiar feeling. And if you can imagine that the average person has had about, oh, 1200 to 1500 lifetimes, youve gone through that experience of that amazing release, that euphoric feeling when you cross over. Part of you knows, Hey, theres nothing to worry about. You just crossed over. Youve done this before.

Any thoughts, comments, Linda?

LINDA: No, youre laying this out pretty well, what does it mean to let go, what does it mean to release.

GEOFF: Absolutely. And he said that literally does take a lot of fear away. But now, suddenly youve released the physical body; you havent really necessarily said to yourself, Im dead, but youre saying, Oh my God, does this feel good. This is familiar. Im not sure if Im in a dream or what, but this is what I love to feel. And he said that starts fading away a little bit, because now youre getting a little bit more distant from physical reality. Youre pulling away, and he said suddenly there generally is the realization and the intelligent concept that, Oh, something must have happened, because my reality is not what it was an hour ago or a day ago. Something is different. And he said it starts to set in on people that they have crossed over many of them. Not all of them though.

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He said within those first days immediately after death, the being is generally still very happy, very light. Even though they realize theyre dead, they feel just a tremendous release of burdens, but what they want to do is immediately to contact loved ones, friends, family members, and let them know that theyre okay. And he said that this is where it gets a little troubling, because theyll come in to a spouse that, you know, theyve spent 20, 30, 50 years with and try to reassure them and try to connect with them. But when they get close in, they suddenly realize that this person that they love is in anguish and agony, that theyre crying, theyre crying because of the death, and he said that really affects the ones who have crossed over, because theyre happy at first, and then they feel all this sadness.

One of the things they try to do the departed one is to call out and to even scream out saying, No, no, Im fine! Im here! Im right beside you! but nobody hears them. They then will try to do things that will get them reconnected with physical reality. Theyre very attracted to things like food, because they think, well, If I can be around food and recreate that human experience, maybe that will allow me to get in closer or even come out of the dream state that some of them are still thinking that theyre in. Theyre still not really sure, because it does feel like a very real dream.

And I know as Im talking here, so many people are kind of nodding their head and going, I remember that. Ive felt that before. It is like a dream. Its like a dream state; the frustration is that its difficult to connect with anybody or anything back here on this side.

So a lot of times in these first couple of days, in particular, they try to recreate the human experiences that they liked or that would help to maybe magnetize them closer or draw them closer in to the ones theyre trying to connect with. A lot of times theyll try to literally crawl into bed with the ones that theyve just left their partners and spouses because that was such a beautiful time, snuggling at night and getting close.

And again, theyre in a generally happy, but slightly confused, state of being. But heres the spouse who has just had the loss of a loved one, is thinking theyre in bed alone, and then they get a funny feeling like, Joes still around, but yet physically theyre not. And oftentimes, this is where theyre going to maybe smell something that smelled like the departed one, even like their sweat or their cologne or perfume or cigar smoke. And then this tends to confuse the person whos back on Earth even more, like, Whats going on? So you have kind of a frustrating attempt to connect one with the other, but its not working. Linda?

LINDA: Im just listening to you and monitoring some of the question. I think were defining what the problems are and what the confusion is, especially shortly after people leave and that little bit of that challenge between those that are left behind and the one thats trying to move on.

GEOFF: Absolutely, and their energy the one whos departed their energy is around. I mean, literally their energy and their consciousness, but I mean there is a magnetism, there is a dynamic thats still in the room, because theyre very present. They havent really moved beyond the human realms at this point. And again, I generalize; this isnt the case with all.

Now, this is one of the very best times to connect with those who have departed. Some of my best discussions with my brother were right after he departed, because he was happy, he was in this incredible mood. He had a lot of questions about what was going on. He wanted to know why I could talk to him and others werent.

His biggest question was Am I in a dream? and this is very, very common. Its a great time to talk to these beings, but I do have to caution that you need to make sure you know what youre doing. In other words, its very easy to get caught in those other realms, not just the realm that Im discussing right now, but the realms

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that come past this. You need to understand that it is their backyard, not yours. It is their familiar territory the ones who have been deceased for a while not yours. And there are a lot of games that are played out there in the astral realms, which were going to talk about in just a few minutes.

So now, again, were in this day or two or three right after the person has crossed over. They have a tendency now to go around to try to visit or connect with the people that they were very close to that they loved. They have a very strong tendency to try to make amends with people who theyve had problems with, and, particularly, parents who have left who have had incomplete business or issues with their children. This is one of the most common things.

Theyll try to come around and lets say that they were distant from their children or had some issues and arguments going on, or felt guilty about the way they treated their children, particularly if there were cases of abuse they will come around and try now to make amends. But again, its very frustrating, because the ones back here on Earth cant talk to them. Theyre not here in physical being. As a matter of fact, oftentimes theyre really shut down. Itll scare the hell out of them if suddenly that person vaporized or appeared to them. So theres a disconnect that takes place. This can get very frustrating for the person who has crossed over, and sometimes they start yelling and screaming out. They want to get some attention.

The other thing that they do is they start to try to finish unfinished business bills that needed to be paid, businesses that needed help and management on, if they had started a business. If they were taking a class in computer education or learning a foreign language, theres a real desire they want to come back and try to finish that and, again, theyre starting to get a mounting frustration that they cant do all that.

They try to exert physical qualities in other words, waving their hands in the air, pushing at objects and stuff like that and they find that it has no affect at all. Sometimes this causes even more confusion and more frustration, not in all, but in some. In others they start to realize, Oh, I have crossed over.

One of the other things that they do is tend to revisit childhood sites homes, schools, places where they played when they were kids and in a lot of cases, theres kind of a nice flood of memories that comes up, and they start to remember things that they did.

The one thing that generally is felt more than anything else during this time, whether its reflecting on fond memories or just trying to connect and communicate with other people, there is a very large and deep sense of loneliness. Now, you say, Yeah, but theres a lot of other beings over in the other realms, a lot of angels, blah, blah, blah. There are, but not necessarily at this point. Theyre still very, very connected with Earth, with their families, with their activities. Theyre literally kind of blocking out all the rest of this. They want to focus on what they had back here.

Most of them now are starting to realize that theyre dead, that this isnt just a dream, that its not just temporary, that theres something going on. So then at anywhere from about three days to two weeks, sometimes a little bit longer, they start to say, What next?

And by the way, I want to interject here real quick, generally they attend their own funerals because its a great place. The whole family is together. They can feel the tears. They dont necessarily by the way, please, please, please, dont misunderstand; theyre not mind readers just because theyre dead. They can feel emotion. They can feel sadness or happiness, but dont think just because somebodys dead they suddenly read your mind and realize that you didnt really like them after all, or anything like that, unless you have very, very, very strong feelings. But just because somebodys crossed over to the other side doesnt mean theyre suddenly psychic and can see through walls and everything else. Linda?

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LINDA: No, no. Youre on a roll, lets stay with that.

GEOFF: Great! And normally Linda and I are sitting across from each other at home in our living room and I can kind of see when she wants to jump in. And I know Im kind of like, well, going here. I just want to make sure I allow you the opportunity.

LINDA: No, its wonderful, and when youre ready, Ive got questions all over the place.

GEOFF: Oh good. So now lets go to the astral realms. What gets somebody starting to move beyond the very, very close connection with Earth, even though their dead, is starting to realize that they cant connect or communicate. By the way, sometimes they can with dogs, dogs in particular. If you have ever noticed that after somebody dies their dog will suddenly perk up their ears or start barking or something, because the dogs can feel them. Sometimes I just wish I was a dog.

LINDA: You know, thats a really interesting thing that when they do polls on people and talk to people about their experiences with something beyond themselves, almost invariably the one single thing that convinces people theres something more is that they all experience a visit from someone that theyve known or loved thats passed.

GEOFF: Absolutely.

LINDA: So we know that that ability to connect and sense that is very real for many, many people.

GEOFF: And Im going to use the example of my own brother. I did a DreamWalk guidance for him, as well as for my grandfather, but the one for my brother was just a few years ago, and interestingly it was the same week that Tobias departed. Actually, Tobias came back to Earth, but thats a whole other show.

So I talked to my brother, communicated with my brother, and the happiness and euphoria that he originally felt then started turning to some concern. What about his girls? What about his wife? He loved them dearly. What about all the junk he left behind literal and figurative junk. We had some great talks, and I would connect with him twice a day, and I would always ask, Where are you? What are you doing? What else is there?

At some point he realized that it wasnt a dream, and he realized I wasnt just a character in his dreams but that there was something real, and he wanted to know what happens next. Now, part of the training of being a DreamWalker Death facilitator is you never tell a person, you never say, Well, were going here, were going there. You never talk to them about belief systems. Youre just there, I guess

LINDA: To support.

GEOFF: to support. Its just like, Adamus said, its like taking them for a walk in the park. You let them lead the way, youre just always there. You dont try to tell them sell them religious concepts, spiritual concepts, anything but its a comfort for them to feel your presence. They will ask, by the way, Where do we go now? as my brother did. I just said, Chris, Im here to be with you, to be close by. It doesnt really matter. Well, I could feel that he was starting now to drift out into the astral realms, as is a very, very natural thing.

Now, Adamus calls the astral realms the Near Earth realms. The reason he does that is because, he says,

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theyre still closely connected with the ways and the mass consciousness and even the mentality of Earth, but yet theyre not in physical body. And he said its not a particular place. I mean, you cant identify it and look at an astronomical chart and say Heres where it is. But its kind of I imagine it kind of surrounding Earth.

Now, these Near Earth realms are as vast as vast, as vast as there are people who have died and have belief systems. And this is generally what happens: when they start getting into these Near Earth realms, they are attracted to certain corridors or certain parts of it based on their belief systems.

In other words, if you were a Catholic born and raised Catholic and you believed that there was a heaven and hell and a purgatory and you went to purgatory if you did some bad things, this is probably where youre going to find yourself, in this in between zone. If you believed that you were really, really bad, really deserved punishment, you will find yourself in a type of hell. It isnt necessarily going to mean flames and a devil, but you will find yourself in a hell.

And Linda, you have a couple good examples too, of that.

LINDA: Well, actually, one of my favorites is actually my mother converted to be a Mormon after I left for college. And it was interesting because the Mormon created what I would call a safe space for her. And they have a very clear sense of what their heaven is, and my mother definitely feels that, you know, with the work that shes done and who she is and how shes lived her life, and shes a good person, she knows that when she dies, she will go to the Mormon heaven and that her husband her Mormon husband, hes already passed that she will join him there. And I know she dreams about that every night, and I have no doubt that she will go there, and thats where she wants to go. And I wouldnt try to change that, because thats truly what she chooses.

GEOFF: So thats a really good point. And using this example, somebody strongly believes in the Mormon heavens, in the Seven Heavens, then this is probably where they go. Its kind of a like a self-fulfilling prophesy. But I have to explain that this is not the ultimate destination. It is the Near Earth realms. Its still connected with the belief systems, with the consciousness, with the limitations a lot of limitations of humanity. But this is where people believe theyre going to do.

And, for instance, now, if somebody believes that life just ends at death, if they just dont have any religious beliefs, and I forget the term not agnostic, but atheist if theyre an atheist, that is exactly what will happen. When they die, when they go beyond, they will experience nothingness for a while. Its kind of a weird concept, but theyll experience

LINDA: Theyre own creation.

GEOFF: blackness, nothingness. But suddenly, at some point and it could be weeks, months or thousands of years suddenly, theyll go, Hang on a second here. I can still feel myself. I can still talk within myself. Obviously, theres not nothing. There is something, because Im still here. They have an awareness of themselves that ultimately will get them beyond that nothing zone that theyre in.

LINDA: Geoff, this might be a nice time to mention the movie What Dreams May Come.

GEOFF: Yes, thank you, and actually, Im going to mention the book rather than the movie.

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After Adamus delivered this DreamWalker Death course, he asked me then to read the book What Dreams May Come, and he was very specific and said the book Id never read it before the book is by Richard Matheson. The name is What Dream May Come, published in 1978. So its been around for a while. It is such an incredibly good description of one persons experience in these other realms. It will open your eyes to the Near Earth realms. Now, theyre not called that in the book, but thats what they are.

The book is not necessarily a happy read. Some of you might have watched the movie What Dream May Come starring Robin Williams, and it had a happy ending. The book does not. I dont want to say too much more about it, but the book is infinitely more powerful and insightful than the movie What Dreams May Come.

So here in these Near Earth realms is where most everybody goes and most everybody stays until their next incarnation. As a matter of fact, I believe Adamus said at least 80 percent of the people stay in these realms until theyre attracted back in for reincarnation.

If somebody dies a drunk, theyre going to be attracted to the drunk section of the Near Earth realms. Literally, imaginary bars where other drunks are hanging out, and they, in a way, connect their drunk consciousness to create taverns or bars because theyre so connected still to the booze from Earth. Same with drug addicts. Youll go into the Near Earth realms and there are crack houses there that are created out of the beliefs and the consciousness and the desires of the people that died and they were addicted to [crack].

Youll find just about anything out there, and its all based on really what beliefs that you have, what you carry over; two things actually beliefs and strong desires.

Now, theres places in the Near Earth realms where there is amazing work with music, for instance. Music that is beyond what were producing here on Earth. And there are places in the Near Earth realms where, lets say, an engineer or scientist goes, because the work continues. And to an extent, they realize theyre dead, but theyre thinking that this is heaven. Theyre thinking that this is the next experience. They dont realize there are other realms beyond this, for the most part. They dont realize that theres other levels.

So the other thing I wanted to point out is people tend to also try to find their lost loves in the Near Earth realms. Lets say that they were married to somebody when they were younger and that person died early, and now that our example here is crossed over to the other side, theyll try to find that lost love. Sometimes it works and sometimes those lost loves have gone beyond the Near Earth realms or have come back, already incarnated back to Earth.

Now, Im going to make one point and then I think we can start answering some questions and I cant believe how quickly the time flies.

LINDA: Its an important topic.

GEOFF: One other very important point in this. Adamus says there are angelic beings stationed all throughout the Near Earth realms in the rough places. The Near Earth realms are kind of like a big, big city. You know, its got its ghettos, its got its arts and cultures, its got its suburbs and all the different parts. And he said thats kind of what its like. Its got everything.

LINDA: And can be any creation.

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GEOFF: Yeah, and if you believed in a Buddhist type of existence after you die, that is where you will go. But if you believe that youre going to be battling the devil, thats exactly whats going to happen.

Adamus says there are angelic beings, highly trained, stationed all throughout the Near Earth realms. They are there at any point for any person who finally says, I need help. I need to move beyond. I know this isnt the ultimate. What comes next? Particularly people who are stuck or trapped, who have brought over their emotional issues; people who are still very angry because of their last lifetime and things that happened.

There are angelic beings who are there, and the moment that a departed being says, I need help, those angelic beings are right there to help move them now into higher levels of consciousness. The problem is that so often the majority of the cases actually the people, the departed beings in the Near Earth realms, arent aware that the help is there, and even when they become aware that there is some help or some angelic being, they resist it. Either theyre mistrusting or they actually choose to stay in these realms to try to resolve the issues themselves. But just for anyone listening, or anyone listening who has loved ones that have departed, there are angelic beings who will work and help you move to much higher levels of consciousness.

LINDA: Geoff, I think we should go to some questions, because Ive got quite a few of them adding up there.

GEOFF: Great.

LINDA: And a couple of them are repeats where there are several people asking similar questions. A couple people ask could we please say that the website for the Crimson Circle is crimsoncircle.com.

A number of people asking about theyre saying, Well, it sounds like in the Near Realms theres not much potential to go beyond whatever youve created in your beliefs. Wheres the chance to go beyond?

GEOFF: Well, thats true and a little bit sad, because according to Adamus about 80 percent of people go to the Near Earth realms and do not go beyond. Literally, what happens is their deep desires, their unfulfilled desires, or even their angers often will basically suck them back to Earth for another incarnation. He says that its not a lot of beautiful wonderful planning with a grand angelic being saying, Im going to choose this next lifetime.

More than anything, its like an energetic gravity not a physical gravity, but an energetic gravity that suddenly will suck you back to Earth. And this happened particularly a lot with the soldiers in World War II, where they were killed in battle, a lot of unfinished business well, they were young, they left behind wives or families and they went to the other side. Oftentimes, the battle the very war that they were involved in was being continued in the other realms, and at some point, suddenly they were just sucked out of that scenario back into physical body, and thats why you saw a lot of incarnations back from about 1948 through the early 1960s.

LINDA: The boomers.

GEOFF: The boomers, absolutely, was the reincarnators. So sadly, its not everyone who goes onto higher levels.

Now, thats the whole reason we do this DreamWalker Death training, because we teach people how to escort those who have just crossed over in a very gentle and a very comforting way. Our practitioners know that theres something that lies beyond these Near Earth realms, and its what we call the Crystalline Realms,

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and ultimately even beyond that whats called the Bridge of Flowers, which is a metaphor for the coming back together with your true angelic spiritual family.

A DreamWalker Death practitioner is trained how to guide the person without pushing them, without leading them, but letting them know that something else lies beyond.

As I mentioned before, Ive done two DreamWalks. They are the most profound and beautiful experiences you can imagine. And for me, it took the fear out. So go ahead, Im so excited!

LINDA: No, no, this is all important. Geoff and I, we both love this information so much. It just was so expanding, and it took so long, but were both so passionate about it, because we both gained so much from it, and those that are involved in it have too.

GEOFF: Hey Linda, I feel that were just getting started on this subject, and Im watching the clock and saying, Oh, we only have eight minutes left. You know what we should do is well answer some more questions but we should do a separate segment in more detailed explanation on our regular radio show, which is on awakeningzone.com.* We do a show once a month, and were not limited by time whatsoever. And on top of that, theres a chatroom where people can type in their questions live. So, because I know theres so much more to cover, lets plan that well do that in the next couple of months. * This show was scheduled for October 26, 2011. Click here to listen live or hear the archive.

So how about another question.

LINDA: Lots of questions related to suicide.

GEOFF: Suicide. Suicide is a very, very difficult one. Please, if youre out there and you dont have training, dont mess with it. Dont try to connect with those with suicides. Adamus has said that there are angelic beings who specialize in suicides, and they know how to deal with it. And he said it is traumatic, and he said it is very, very difficult because theyre in such a in most cases theyre in such an emotional state, he said. But dont try to get involved in that yourself unless you have specific training, but please know that there is a lot of assistance on the other side for those who have committed suicide.

Theres no judgment about suicide from a spiritual level; its only the anguish that a person is putting themselves through. And, again, if you want to read more about the suicide, please read the book What Dreams May Come, by Richard Matheson, because that is about a suicide.

LINDA: And let me say a little more that the issue with suicide is that its one thing when you hear about people that were dying and they just walked away from life it was just too much versus someone that where there are suicides where people, of course, are very angry and punishing, in a sense.

GEOFF: When theyre trying to get back at somebody.

LINDA: Yeah, and thats where it gets really, really complicated and deserves a lot of attention and a lot of clarity, because it is a very, very less-than-perfect process.

We dont try to be too commercial, but I am going to throw this in. If you find this a really compelling topic, the DreamWalker Death course, you can go to crimsoncircle.com, and we have teachers that do a three-day class that goes into great detail about pre-death, death and after death process, and what you can do to

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understand it more and what you can do to guide and support others throughout that whole process. Three days, and its incredibly profound what you can learn from that.

GEOFF: Well, we literally train people to be a DreamWalker Death practitioner. And I know some of the people are thinking, Well, that sounds pretty easy, but Adamus does a very good job of going through all the potential problems that you can encounter, teaches you how to always come back to this realm, and teaches you not to get entangled with the person that youre doing a DreamWalk for. And also, by the way, DreamWalks are always done with the agreement of the person who is departed or their family. Dont just start going out there and trying to pick up dead people. I can tell you, from examples that weve run into when people have done that, they run into a lot of problems. Its like you wouldnt just walk into the bad part of a city you dont know and just start walking around trying to do social work on everybody. Youre going to get in trouble. Its the same way in dealing with the realms.

Linda, we only have a few minutes left, and I want to make

LINDA: Well, let me say this a little bit. You know, its one thing when you have more information and you have a better sense of the whole picture, at that point then you are involved in that process in a way that you really have the tools, the knowledge, the support and the grace to actually be there and truly support that journey, whether its pre-death, death or afterwards.

GEOFF: So Adamus says that about 80 percent of humans who cross over, who die, never go beyond the Near Earth realms partly by choice; partly because its very, very comforting. Its not all bad out there. I mean, theres some amazing places. If youre an artist, you can be attracted to parts of the Near Earth realms that have amazing creativity; or music or whatever it happens to be.

It is a learning place. Theres classes being taught there, literally, on how to prepare for your next incarnation, for the people that are open to that. Theres a little bit of everything, but ultimately, he says, the best thing is to even go beyond those Near Earth realms into the Crystalline Realms, and those are just to put it simply the Crystalline Realms are where the true birthing energies of creation come from, where the true creative energies of the cosmos come from. You can pass into there.

Now, part of the situation there theyre absolutely stunning, beyond words that I could even describe. Some of you have been back there, and you know exactly the feeling. The thing is its easy to want to stay there also, and there is a higher level. Its whats called the Bridge of Flowers. This is the return, the reunion with your true spiritual family, the angelic beings who youve known for eons of times, the ones whom you left a long time ago to start this journey on Earth, partly for you, but in a large part for them.

LINDA: The Bridge of Flowers is a metaphor.

GEOFF: Its a metaphor. During the DreamWalker Death training, Adamus takes you through an experience going to the Bridge of Flowers, and it is well, he takes you through an experience literal, youll experience it during these three days what its like to go through the astral realms, not just talking about it, as were doing here, but taking you through them; taking you through the Crystalline Realms, and ultimately to the Bridge of Flowers. Its profound.

So Linda any other weve got time for one or two more quick ones.

LINDA: Yeah. One of the questions here is, You mentioned its easier for us to guide from this side. Why?

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GEOFF: Yes, because there is a level of trust from here, because generally its going to be a person who knew you and because you dont have an agenda. And they are going to feel more familiar with your energy than they do with beings from the other side.

An easier way to say it is theyre going to see you a lot more clearly than they can see a being from the other side, particularly in the early days of the death. And because youre not going to be carrying an agenda, theyre going to learn to trust you right away. Even though there are angelic beings stationed all throughout the Near Earth realms that are there to help, so often the people dont want to see them, dont even acknowledge that theyre there.

One more question.

LINDA: Okay. If we send light to someone who has passed over, does it help them on their journey? Does it help to lessen the confusion or fear?

GEOFF: You know, yes and no. The one thing Adamus says is Dont pray for them, because theres a sadness and a sorrow in the prayer, in the kind of old style prayer. To send them loving thoughts saying, Hey Joe, I know youre doing okay, and I wish you the best and I love you, and, by the way, youre going to realize youre not really dead dead. I mean, theres a lot more going on. Just want to let you know that Im here. That type of thing is good, but you have to be very careful not to try to inflict your beliefs on them.

The best analogy is if you learn how to do this DreamWalking Death transitions, it is like taking an old friend for a walk in the park, but youre not telling them when to sit, when to stop, when to do this youre just there there is incredible comfort for that person. Incredible comfort. But there are some tricky things in it, and, again, you need to know what youre doing.

Just send total compassion. Total compassion, by the way, is total acceptance. Linda, what do you think?

LINDA: Well, I think its 7 p.m. and at least it is Mountain time, and I hope that people can sense that there is a lot more to feel, to sense about death and the potentials, and the love and support that you can possibly offer to others when you have that sense and that ability to let people see what you feel.

I know its been amazing for me that I suddenly can there were things I wasnt comfortable talking to people about, I would hide from it, and I dont do that anymore. Im really comfortable with allowing them their beliefs and accepting that and allowing them to feel safe and to reach to their highest potential. And if someone wants more, theres more.

GEOFF: Yeah, and unfortunately, weve got to wrap it up. Thats the agreement with Global Teleclass. Theyre kind and loving and wonderful enough to give us this opportunity, but we do have to keep it at one hour.

Please, if youre interested in this subject, go to crimsoncircle.com, and theres more information. Linda and I will do a more in-depth show on the awakeningzone.com, because I feel we were just getting into the subject tonight. Theres so much to talk about.

LINDA: And do go to the Advanced Studies area and look up what we offer in terms of DreamWalker Death. We have amazing people that will walk you through expanding that information and that knowledge.

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GEOFF: So everybody take a deep breath. Theres a bunch of departed ones hanging around all of us tonight as were talking about this, and I feel weve given even those the ones who have just crossed over a little bit of comfort, a little bit of love on their journey as they make their way through the Near Earth realms, through the astral realms, onwards to the Crystalline Realms and beyond. So hopefully, if nothing else, by us gathering around together tonight, we added a little bit of new potential and hope into mass consciousness of humanity.

Linda and I thank you for being here, and we look forward to being back.

LINDA: Thank you everyone.

GEOFF: Thanks a lot. Good night.

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