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Correlating Committee

on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

M E M O R A N D U M

DATE: November 3, 2014 TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems FROM: Matt Klaus, Principal Fire Protection Engineer/NFPA Staff Liaison

SUBJECT: AUT-AAC AGENDA PACKAGE – A2015 Second Draft Meeting ________________________________________________________________________

Enclosed is the agenda for the Second Draft meeting for the NFPA Correlating Committee on

Automatic Sprinkler Systems. NFPA 13, 13R, 13D, 24 and 291 have entered the Annual 2015

revision cycle and will produce 2016 Editions.

For administrative questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll at (617) 984-7952.

For technical questions, please feel free to contact Matt Klaus at (617) 984-7448. You can

also reach either of us via e-mail at [email protected] or [email protected]. We look forward to

meeting everyone in Chicago.

mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]

Table of Contents

Part 1 - Meeting Agenda

Part 2 - Committee Address List

Part 3 – New Process Worksheets

Part 4 – A2015 First Draft Meeting Minutes

Part 5 - A2015 Key Dates

Part 6- Second Revisions w/ Ballot Comments

Part 1 – Meeting Agenda

Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Second Draft Meeting

November 12-13

Chicago Marriott Suites O’Hare

6155 North River Road

Rosemont, IL 60018

Tel: (800) 228-9290

AGENDA

Wednesday November 12, 2014

1. Call to Order – 1:00 PM 2. Introductions of Members and Staff 3. Review and Approval of A2015 First Draft Meeting Minutes 4. Review of A2015 Revision Cycle 5. Review of Distributed Material and Workload 6. TC Chair Reports

a. AUT-PRI (Wagoner) b. AUT-SSI (Noble) c. AUT-SSD (Leavitt) d. AUT-RSS (Pilette) e. AUT-HBS (Biggins)

7. New Business a. Additional Correlating Items b. NFPA 13 Redundancy and Reorganization c. NFPA Sprinkler Project Task Group Work d. NFPA 13D Scope – Height Limitation e. Assignments for A2018 Cycle

8. Adjourn (TBD on Thursday, November 13)

Part 2 – Correlating Committee Roster

Address List No PhoneAutomatic Sprinkler Systems AUT-AAC

Matthew J. Klaus10/29/2014

AUT-AACKenneth W. LinderChairSwiss Re2 Waterside Crossing, Suite 200Windsor, CT 06095

I 10/10/1997AUT-AAC

Jose R. BazPrincipalJRB Associates Group Inc.2725 SW 102nd AvenueMiami, FL 33165NFPA Latin American SectionAlternate: Donato A. Pirro

M 11/14/1997

AUT-AACKerry M. BellPrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Alternate: Jeff Hebenstreit

RT 10/10/1997AUT-AAC

Tracey D. BellamyPrincipalTelgian Corporation900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680Atlanta, GA 30339The Home DepotAlternate: Ralph E. Bless, Jr.

U 10/29/2012

AUT-AACRussell P. FlemingPrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563-2164Alternate: Kenneth E. Isman

M 10/10/1997AUT-AAC

Scott T. FransonPrincipalThe Viking Corporation210 North Industrial Park RoadHastings, MI 49058Alternate: Scott T. Martorano

M 1/18/2001

AUT-AACMichael J. FriedmanPrincipalFriedman Consulting, Inc.1 Bluestone RoadLutherville, MD 21093-4512

SE 3/21/2006AUT-AAC

Raymond A. GrillPrincipalArup1120 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 1110Washington, DC 20036Alternate: Jeffrey E. Harper

SE 10/10/1997

AUT-AACLuke HiltonPrincipalLiberty Mutual Property13830 Ballantyne Corporate Place, Suite 525Charlotte, NC 20277-2711Alternate: James P. Carroll

I 4/16/1999AUT-AAC

Alex HoffmanPrincipalViking Fire Protection Inc.7885 North Fraser Way, Unit 140Burnaby, BC V5J 5M7 CanadaCanadian Automatic Sprinkler Association

IM 9/30/2004

AUT-AACRoland J. HugginsPrincipalAmerican Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.12750 Merit Drive, Suite 350Dallas, TX 75251Alternate: Donald D. Becker

IM 10/10/1997AUT-AAC

Sultan M. JaveriPrincipalSC Engineering2 Impasse Du GuernehlieLa Trinite, Surzur, 56190 France

IM 10/10/1997

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AUT-AACCharles W. KetnerPrincipalNational Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669Joint Apprenticeship & Training Committee7050 Oakland Mills RoadColumbia, MD 20732United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry

L 1/10/2008AUT-AAC

Andrew KimPrincipalNational Research Council of CanadaInstitute for Research in Construction1200 Montreal Road, Building M-59Ottawa, ON K1A 0R6 CanadaAlternate: Joseph Su

RT 10/10/1997

AUT-AACJohn A. LeBlancPrincipalFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: David B. Fuller

I 07/29/2013AUT-AAC

David O. LowreyPrincipalCity of Boulder Fire Rescue1805 33rd StreetBoulder, CO 80301

E 10/29/2012

AUT-AACJeannene Yvonne MeismanPrincipalReedy Creek Fire Department37117 Lightwood DriveZephyrhills, FL 33541-7531

E 07/29/2013AUT-AAC

Brock MitchellPrincipalExtended Stay Hotels11525 N Community House RdSuite 100Charlotte, NC 28277

U 10/29/2012

AUT-AACGarner A. PalenskePrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation11770 Bernardo Plaza Court, Suite 116San Diego, CA 92128Alternate: James G. Gallup

I 4/17/2002AUT-AAC

J. William SheppardPrincipalSheppard & Associates, LLC24756 Tudor LaneFranklin, MI 48025

SE 10/10/1997

AUT-AACDouglas Paul StultzPrincipalUS Department of the NavyNAVFAC MIDLANT, Code CI459742 Maryland AvenueBuilding Z-140, Room 126Norfolk, VA 23508Alternate: Brian Paul Carnazza

E 3/15/2007AUT-AAC

J. Michael ThompsonPrincipalThe Protection Engineering Group, PC14585 Avion Parkway, Suite 150Chantilly, VA 20151Alternate: John G. O'Neill

SE 4/17/2002

AUT-AACLynn K. UnderwoodPrincipalAxis US Property303 West Madison Street, Suite 500Chicago, IL 60606Alternate: Adam Seghi

I 10/10/1997AUT-AAC

Donald D. BeckerAlternateRJC & Associates, Inc.PO Box 398Dallas Center, IA 50063-0398American Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Roland J. Huggins

IM 10/10/1997

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AUT-AACRalph E. Bless, Jr.AlternateTelgian Corporation900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680Atlanta, GA 30339The Home DepotPrincipal: Tracey D. Bellamy

U 10/29/2012AUT-AAC

Brian Paul CarnazzaAlternateUS Department of the NavyNAVFAC Mid-Atlantic9742 Maryland Ave., Bldg. Z-140, Room 103Norfolk, VA 23511Principal: Douglas Paul Stultz

E 03/05/2012

AUT-AACJames P. CarrollAlternateLiberty Mutual Insurance18018 Java Isle DriveTampa, FL 33647-2708Principal: Luke Hilton

I 08/11/2014AUT-AAC

David B. FullerAlternateFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: John A. LeBlanc

I 7/26/2007

AUT-AACJames G. GallupAlternateAon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation2810 North Tippecanoe AvenueTucson, AZ 85745Principal: Garner A. Palenske

I 10/29/2012AUT-AAC

Jeffrey E. HarperAlternateHughes Associates/RJA Group600 West Fulton Street, 5th FloorChicago, IL 60661-1241Principal: Raymond A. Grill

SE 08/11/2014

AUT-AACJeff HebenstreitAlternateUL LLC484 Tamarach DriveEdwardsville, IL 62025-5246Underwriters Laboratories Inc.Principal: Kerry M. Bell


Kenneth E. IsmanAlternateNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563-2164Principal: Russell P. Fleming

M 10/10/1997

AUT-AACScott T. MartoranoAlternateThe Viking Corporation210 North Industrial Park RoadHastings, MI 49058Principal: Scott T. Franson

M 3/1/2011AUT-AAC

John G. O'NeillAlternateThe Protection Engineering Group, PC14900 Bogle Drive, Suite 200Chantilly, VA 20151Principal: J. Michael Thompson

SE 1/1/1977

AUT-AACDonato A. PirroAlternateElectro Sistemas De Panama, S.A.Ave. Ernesto T. LefevreParque LefevrePanama City, PanamaNFPA Latin American SectionPrincipal: Jose R. Baz

M 11/14/1997AUT-AAC

Adam SeghiAlternateCoda Risk Analysis9624 Vista View DriveAustin, TX 78750Principal: Lynn K. Underwood

I 10/29/2012

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AUT-AACJoseph SuAlternateNational Research Council of Canada1200 Montreal Road, M-59Ottawa, ON K1A 0R6 CanadaPrincipal: Andrew Kim


James B. BigginsNonvoting MemberGlobal Risk Consultants Corporation15732 West Barr RoadManhattan, IL 60442-9012TC on Hanging & Bracing of Water-Based Systems

SE 7/28/2006

AUT-AACRobert G. CaputoNonvoting MemberFire & Life Safety AmericaConsolidated Fireprotection, Inc.657 Cantara LaneVista, CA 92081TC on Foam-Water Sprinklers

SE 10/29/2012AUT-AAC

William E. KoffelNonvoting MemberKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Safety to Life Correlating Committee

SE 10/10/1997

AUT-AACRussell B. LeavittNonvoting MemberTelgian Corporation2615 South Industrial Park AvenueTempe, AZ 85282-1821TC on Sprinkler System Discharge Criteria

U 10/28/2008AUT-AAC

Joe W. NobleNonvoting MemberNoble Consulting Services, LLC6345 South Jones Blvd., #100Las Vegas, NV 89130TC on Sprinkler System Installation Criteria

E 4/17/1998

AUT-AACMaurice M. PiletteNonvoting MemberMechanical Designs Ltd.19 Erie DrivePO Box 2188Natick, MA 01760TC on Residential Sprinkler Systems

SE 7/28/2006AUT-AAC

Kenneth W. WagonerNonvoting MemberParsley Consulting Engineers350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206Escondido, CA 92025-5053TC on Private Water Supply Piping Systems

SE 03/02/2010

AUT-AACJohn J. WalshMember EmeritusUA Joint Apprenticeship Committee Local 669502 Kings Farm Blvd., #302Rockville, MD 20850United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry

SE 1/1/1974AUT-AAC

Matthew J. KlausStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

12/16/2010

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Part 3 – New Process Worksheet

NEW PROCESS ACTIONS AND MOTIONS

Possible Action #1: Accept Public Comment (exactly as it is)

Action Required Sample motion

Create a Second Revision I move to create a Second Revision using PC #

______.

Possible action #2: Reject but see (revise submitted text)


Step 1 Create a Second Revision based on a

Public Comment

I move to create a Second Revision based on PC # _____with the following changes to the text . .

.

Step 2 If the revision is related to multiple PCs,

respond to all of them together using the cart function

I move to create a Second Revision based on PC # ____and incorporating PC #s _____with the

following changes to the text . . .

Possible action #3: Reject (no change to the standard)


Generate a statement (substantiation) I move to reject PC # ____ with the following

substantiation . . .

Possible Action #4: Reject but hold (new material)


Reject Public Comment for this cycle, but

save for next revision cycle

I move to reject PC # ____ but hold it for consideration during the First Draft meeting next

cycle.

Part 4 – First Draft Meeting Minutes

Correlating Committee on Automatic Sprinkler Systems First Draft Meeting

Renaissance Blackstone Hotel Chicago, Illinois

December 11, 2013

Attendees:

See attached sign-in sheet.

1. Ken Linder (CC Chair) called the meeting to order at 8:00 am and began introductions.

2. The A2012 ROC minutes were approved with a single revision (Add Ray Grill to attendance sheet).

3. Matt Klaus gave the staff report and a presentation on the meeting procedures.

4. Ken Linder discussed the logistics for the meeting and the order of the task group reporting.

5. The technical committee (TC) chairs for the 5 TCs representing the sprinkler project presented their reports of correlation issues. The CC members acted on

these reports by preparing First Correlating Notes and First Correlating Revisions

where appropriate. See First Draft Report for details.

6. The CC encourages the HBS TC to continue to communicate with other technical committees that inappropriately reference the NFPA 13 hanging and bracing

chapter.

7. The CC encourages the PRI TC to review section 5.9.4.4 to look at the potentially redundant sections.

8. The CC encourages the SSI TC to review the new venting language. The new venting requirements require the vent to remove the “majority” of air. This

language is unenforceable and may lead to a NITMAM eliminating what is

otherwise a concept that was looked at favorably by the TC. Furthermore, the TC

should review the concept of “ganged venting” to make sure that the proposed

language adequately addresses this potential application.

9. The CC encourages each of the TCs to come up with a plan(s) for streamlining

the standard and making it easier to follow. There are redundancies throughout

the standard that have increased the length of the document without adding any

clarity. Action items should be presented to the CC for their SD meeting this

cycle with potential implementation for the A2018 Revision Cycle.

10. The extract task group (SSD) is encouraged to add language to the beginning of the extract chapter explaining when and how the extracts apply. Do these

requirements apply to all systems or only when the referenced standard is

applicable in the jurisdiction where work is being performed?

11. The Second Draft meeting is scheduled for Fall/Winter 2014 at a date and location to be determined.

12. Meeting adjourned at 5:00 pm on December 11.

ATTENDANCE FOR CORRELATING COMMITTEE FD MEETING – DEC 11, 2013

Attendees

Principals:

Kenneth Linder, Chair

Kerry Bell

Tracey Bellamy

Russell Fleming

Raymond Grill

Alex Hoffman

Sultan Javeri

John LeBlanc

Jeannene Meisman

Brock Mitchell

J. Sheppard

Lynn Underwood

Alternates:

David Fuller

Kenneth Isman

Donato Pirro

Adam Seghi

Nonvoting Members:

Robert Caputo

William Koffel

Russell Leavitt

Joe Noble

Maurice Pilette

Kenneth Wagoner

Matthew Klaus, NFPA Staff Liaison

Guests:

Peter Thomas

Cecil Bilbo

Rita Neiderheiser

Ketih Woller

Part 5 – A2015 Key Dates

2015 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up‐to‐date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at

www.nfpa.org/document # (i.e. www.nfpa.org/101) and click on the Next Edition tab.

Process Stage

Process Step

Dates for

TC

Dates forTC with CC

Public Input Closing Date* 7/8/2013 7/8/2013 Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/13/2013 9/13/2013

Public Input Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 1/31/2014 10/25/2013 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 2/21/2014 11/15/2013

(First Draft) Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 2/28/2014 11/22/2013 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/29/2013 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/10/2014 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 1/31/2014 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/21/2014 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 2/28/2014 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/7/2014 3/7/2014

Public Comment Closing Date for Paper Submittal* 4/11/2014 4/11/2014 Public Comment Closing Date for Online Submittal (e‐PC)* 5/16/2014 5/16/2014 Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Documents (Standards that

received no Comments) 5/30/2014 5/30/2014

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)

6/13/2014 6/13/2014

Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 10/31/2014 7/25/2014 Comment Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 12/12/2014 9/5/2014 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 1/2/2015 9/26/2014

(Second Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 1/9/2015 10/3/2014 Draft) Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 10/10/2014

Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/21/2014 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/12/2014 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/2/2015 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 1/9/2015 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/16/2015 1/16/2015

Tech Session Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 3/6/2015 3/6/2015 Preparation Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent

Standards 5/1/2015 5/1/2015

(& Issuance) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 5/16/2015 5/16/2015 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 5/26/2015 5/26/2015

Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/22‐25/2015 6/22‐25/2015 Appeals and Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 7/15/2015 7/15/2015 Issuance SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/20/2015 8/20/2015

Approved___ October 18, 2011 _ Revised__March 7, 2013_____________

Part 6 – Second Revisions TC Ballot Finals

National Fire Protection Association

1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

To: NFPA Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems

From: Elena Carroll, Administrator, Technical Projects

Date: October 8, 2014

Subject: NFPA 24 Second Draft TC FINAL Ballot Results (A2015 Cycle)

According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass ballot.

31 Members Eligible to Vote

3 Not Returned (Laguna, Mowrer, Sanchez)

26 Affirmative on All Revisions

2 Negatives (Asp, Schwab)

0 Abstentions

The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the explanation of

the vote for each second revision.

There are two criteria necessary for each second revision to pass ballot: (1) simple majority and (2) affirmative 2/3 vote. The mock examples below show how the calculations are determined.

(1) Example for Simple Majority: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members, 11 affirmative votes

are required to pass ballot. (Sample calculation: 20 members eligible to vote ÷ 2 = 10 + 1 = 11)

(2) Example for Affirmative 2/3: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members and 1 member did not

return their ballot and 2 members abstained, the number of affirmative votes required would be 12. (Sample

calculation: 20 members eligble to vote – 1 not returned – 2 abstentions = 17 x 0.66 = 11.22 = 12 )

As always please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Second Revision No. 15-NFPA 24-2014 [ Global Comment ]

Revise the metric values throughout the standard to follow the soft conversions provided by themetric task group.

Supplemental Information

File Name DescriptionMetrification_AUT-PRI.xlsx

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: [ Not Specified ]Organization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jun 17 13:43:08 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

For the 2016 edition of NFPA 13, the technical committees responsible for the standard chose tomove from hard conversions to soft conversions. Chapter 10 of NFPA 24 is extracted into NFPA13, and as such, NFPA 24 was included in the soft conversion review.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

31 Eligible Voters3 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

Not ReturnedLaguna, Alan R.Mowrer, David S.Sanchez, Daniel

Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.

National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara...

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Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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English (in.) Metric (mm) SI Unit Eng. Unit Factor

1/4 6 L gal 1 gal = 3.785 L

3/8 10 mm/min gpm/ft2 1 gpm/ft2 = 40.746 mm/min

1/2 15 dm3 gal 1 gal = 3.785 dm3

3/4 20 Pa psi 1 psi = 6894.757 Pa

1 25 bar psi 1 psi = 0.0689 bar

1 1/4 32 Pa --> bar - 1 bar = 1E5 Pa

1 1/2 40

1 3/4 45

2 50 SI Unit Eng. Unit Factor

2 1/2 65 m ft 1 ft = 0.3048 m

3 80 m in 1 in = 0.0254 m

3 1/2 90 mm in 1 in = 25.4 mm

4 100

5 125


8 200 m2 ft2 1 ft2 = 0.0929 m2

10 250 m2 in2 1 in2 = 0.0006452 m2

12 300 mm2 in2 1 in2 = 645.15 mm2

14 350 m3 ft3 1 ft3 = 0.02832 m3

16 400 mm3 in3 1 in3 = 16387 mm3

18 450

20 500


kJ/kg Btu/lb 1 Btu/lb = 2.326 kJ/kg

g oz. 1 oz = 28.35 g

kJ/m2 Btu/ft2 1 Btu/ft2 = 11.356 kJ/m2

Piping Equivalents Conversion Factors (T.1.6.1.3)

Length

Area, Volume

Other

Second Revision No. 2-NFPA 24-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]

2.3.1 ASME Publications.American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three Two Park Avenue, New York, NY 10016-5990.

ASME B1.20.1, Pipe Threads, General Purpose (Inch), 2001.

ASME B16.1, Gray Iron Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, Classes 12, 125, and 250 , 2010.

ASME B16.3, Malleable Iron Threaded Fittings, Classes 150 and 300, 2006.

ASME B16.4, Gray Iron Threaded Fittings, Classes 125 and 250, 2006.

ASME B16.5, Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings NPS 1⁄2 through 24, 2003 2013 .

ASME B16.9, Factory-Made Wrought Steel Buttweld Fittings, 2007.

ASME B16.11, Forged Steel Fittings, Socket Welded and Threaded, 2005.

ASME B16.18, Cast Bronze Solder Joint Pressure Fittings, 2001.

ASME B16.22, Wrought Copper and Bronze Solder Joint Pressure Fittings, 2001.

ASME B16.25, Buttwelding Ends, 2007.



Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Updated the edition date for the standard.Response Message:

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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2.3.2 ASTM Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM A 234 A234/A234M , Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel forModerate and Elevated Temperatures, 2007 2013e1 .

ASTM A 53 A53/A53M Standard Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated,Welded and Seamless, 2001 2012 .

ASTM A 135 A135/A135M Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance- Welded Steel Pipe,2001 09(2014) .

ASTM A 795 A795/A795M Standard Specification for Black and Hot-Dipped Zinc-Coated(Galvanized)Welded and Seamless Steel Pipe for Fire Protection Use, 2000 2013 .

ASTM B 16.5 Cast Bronze Threaded Fittings , 1985.

ASTM B 43 B43 Specification for Seamless Red Brass Pipe, 2009.

ASTM B 75 B75 , Specification for Seamless Copper Tube, 2002 2011 .

ASTM B 88 B88 , Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube, 2003 2009 .

ASTM B 251 B251 , Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube, 2002 2010 .

IEEE/ASTM-SI-10, Standard for Use of the International System of Units (SI): The Modern Metric System,2002 2010 .


Submitter Full Name: [ Not Specified ]Organization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Sun Jun 29 09:24:03 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Update year dates. The deleted standard is an ASME Standard, not an ASTM Standard.Response Message:Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 2.3.2]

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2.3.3 AWWA Publications.American Water Works Association, 6666 West Quincy Avenue, Denver, CO 80235.

AWWA C104, Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water, 2008.

AWWA C105, Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems, 2005.

AWWA C110, Ductile Iron and Gray Iron Fittings, 2008.

AWWA C111, Rubber-Gasket Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 2000.

AWWA C115, Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges, 2005.

AWWA C116, Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces ofDuctile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service , 2003.

AWWA C150, Thickness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe, 2008.

AWWA C151, Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water, 2002.

AWWA C153, Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service, 2006.

AWWA C200, Steel Water Pipe 6 in. and Larger , 2005.

AWWA C203, Coal-Tar Protective Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipelines Enamel and Tape —Hot Applied , 2002.

AWWA C205, Cement-Mortar Protective Lining and Coating for Steel Water Pipe 4 in. and Larger —Shop Applied , 2007.

AWWA C206, Field Welding of Steel Water Pipe , 2003.

AWWA C207, Steel Pipe Flanges for Waterworks Service — Sizes 4 in. Through 144 in., 2007.

AWWA C208, Dimensions for Fabricated Steel Water Pipe Fittings, 2007.

AWWA C300, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, 2004.

AWWA C301, Prestressed Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, 2007.

AWWA C302, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Non-Cylinder Type, 2004.

AWWA C303, Reinforced Concrete Pressure Pipe, Steel-Cylinder Type, Pretensioned, 2002.

AWWA C400, Standard for Asbestos-Cement Distribution Pipe, 4 in. Through 16 in. (100 mm through 400mm), for Water Distribution Systems, 2003.

AWWA C600, Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances, 2005.

AWWA C602, Cement-Mortar Lining of Water Pipe Lines 4 in. and Larger — in Place, 2006.

AWWA C603, Standard for the Installation of Asbestos-Cement Pressure Pipe, 2005.

AWWA C900, Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution, 2007.

AWWA C905, AWWA Standard for Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe and Fabricated Fittings, 14 in.Through 48 in. (350 mm Through 1200 mm), 2010.

AWWA C906, Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) forWater Distribution, 2007.

AWWA C909, Molecularly Oriented Polyvinyl Chloride (PVCO) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. through 24 in. (100mm through 600 mm), for Water, Wastewater, and Reclaimed Water Service, 2010.

AWWA M11, A Guide for Steel Pipe Design and Installation , 4th edition, 2004.


Submitter Full Name: [ Not Specified ]


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Organization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jun 17 11:31:51 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Reference is made to the statement of problem and substantiation of Public Comment No.2-NFPA 24-2014.

Response Message:Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.


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Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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Second Revision No. 20-NFPA 24-2014 [ Section No. 2.4 ]

2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections.NFPA 20, Standard for the Installation of Stationary Pumps for Fire Protection, 2013 2016 edition.


Submitter Full Name: Sonia BarbosaOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Mon Aug 18 09:51:05 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Updated edition date.Response Message:

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.


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Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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Second Revision No. 17-NFPA 24-2014 [ New Section after 5.1.2 ]

5.1.3 Water Supply Adjustments.5.1.3.1* Where a waterflow test was conducted, the volume and pressure available for use for a fire protectionsystem shall be determined from the following formula:

[5.1.3.1]

5.1.3.1.1 The pressure, P , shall be what is considered available from the water supply to use for a fire protectionsystem that will be calculated for a given flow demand of Q .5.1.3.1.2 The flow, Q , shall be demand flow of the fire protection system that will be used to calculate theavailable pressure from the water supply, P .5.1.3.1.3* The variable P 1 shall be the residual pressure measured during the waterflow test while the flow Q 1was discharging from the water supply reduced by the specifying engineer or the water utility for dailyand seasonal fluctuations.5.1.3.1.3.1 The reduction shall not be based on 100-year droughts or other extreme conditions.5.1.3.1.4* The variable P 2 shall be the static pressure measured during the waterflow test reduced by thespecifying engineer or the water utility for daily and seasonal fluctuations.5.1.3.1.4.1 The reduction shall not be based on 100-year droughts or other extreme conditions.5.1.3.1.5 The variable Q 1 shall be the flow associated with P 1 .5.1.3.1.6* Where the specifying engineer or the water utility does not provide the value for P 1 and P 2 , see5.1.3.2 .5.1.3.2* Where a waterflow test has been conducted and the specifying engineer or the water authority does notprovide a value for P 1 and P 2 , the value for P 1 and P 2 shall be calculated by taking the staticpressure and residual pressure results from the flow test and reducing them by 5 percent.5.1.3.2.1 Where the authority having jurisdiction has adopted a requirement for an adjustment different from 5percent, that adjustment shall be applied.


File Name DescriptionSR_17_equation_and_number.docx Equation 5.1.3.1 SR_17_A.5.1.3.docx Annex material


Submitter Full Name: [ Not Specified ]Organization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:


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City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jun 18 16:18:40 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The NFPA 13 technical committees have been discussing the need for adjusting waterflow data forseveral revision cycles. This revision aims to make the adjustment to the data from a waterflow testrequired instead of recommended. If the adjustment is not required, contractors that do the right thingand adjust the data from tests are at a disadvantage from contractors that don't make anyadjustment. It is fundamentally wrong to not make an adjustment to the data due to daily andseasonal fluctuations. This makes makes a simple and easy to understand adjustment that isstandardized so that there is no argument over what is supposed to happen. It is the intent to havethis be the only adjustment. If the water utility has already performed the adjustment, or if the AHJhas already mandated a safety margin or safety factor to the waterflow data obtained from the test,this adjustment would not apply.

ResponseMessage:Public Comment No. 17-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. A.5.1.2]Public Comment No. 18-NFPA 24-2014 [New Section after 5.1.2]Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 24-2014 [New Section after A.5.1.2]

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Affirmative AllBiggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, Jeff


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Lake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.

Negative with CommentAsp, Roland A. While it is important to adjust water flow test results to reflect a possible "worse case" scenario of the watersupply based upon time of day, seasonal variations, large simultaneous industrial use and other conditions thatmay affect the water supply, this negative ballot is being submitted based upon the following: 1. The SprinklerSystem Discharge Criteria Committee did not accept this Second Revision. Although the Residential Committeeand the Private Water Supply Piping Systems Committee did accept this SR, all affected committees should havea consensus on this issue. 2. The Fire Protection Research Foundation is sponsoring a research project on thistopic and the results of this project should be taken into consideration once available.Schwab, Peter T. Adjustments for water supply fluctuation is a complicated topic. This approach to mandate an arbitrary 5%cushion is too simplistic and cannot encompass all the possibilities encountered in the real world. Also, the SSDCommittee rejected a similar comment. The FPRF is in the process of conducting a project on this subject. Thisconcept should be put on hold for the next edition.


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85.1

1

21 PQ

QPPP

[5.1.3.1] Formatted: Font: Bold

NFPA 24 SR 17 Annex

A.5.1.3.1

Consider the following example. A waterflow test is conducted at a location where a city water

main is going to be tapped for a new sprinkler system. During the test, the static pressure is

measured at 70 psi; the residual pressure is measured at 50 psi while 1300 gpm was discharging

from a nearby hydrant. The water utility is contacted, and they indicate that a reasonable low-

static pressure accounting for typical daily and seasonal fluctuations in this area is 55 psi, and a

reasonable low-residual pressure accounting for typical daily and seasonal fluctuations in this

area at a flow of 1300 gpm is 35 psi. The equation that describes the water supply available for a

fire sprinkler system would be:

551300

5535

85.1

QP

[A.5.1.3(a)]

There are two ways to use this formula. One would be to assume two different values for Q,

calculate P and then draw a graph on log 1.85 paper. Any fire sprinkler system demand falling

on or below the line on this graph would be acceptable in accordance with NFPA 13 to work

with this water supply.

In this case, the two easiest flows to pick for Q would be 0 and 1300 gpm. When Q = 0, P is

simply 55 psi. When Q = 1300 gpm, P = 35 psi. These two points can be plotted on log 1.85

paper as shown in Figure A.5.1.3.1.

The second way to use this formula would be to calculate the fire protection system and

determine the flow necessary to make the system work. Plug this flow into the formula above

and see what the available pressure from the water supply will be at that flow.

For example, if a sprinkler system connected to this water supply had a demand of 580 gpm, the

available pressure from the water supply would be:

551300

5805535

85.1

P

P = (−20)(0.225) + 55

P = 50.5 psi

[A.5.1.3(b)]

So, as long as the sprinkler system has a pressure demand less than or equal to 50.5 psi, it will

work with this water supply.

Figure A.5.1.3.1 Available Water Supply Curve Example.

A.5.1.3.1.3

The purpose of the adjustment required by this section is to take into account reasonable

fluctuations that occur on a daily and seasonal basis but not to burden the building owner with

extreme conditions. During an extreme condition such as a water main break or a severe drought,

the impaired system provisions of NFPA 25 can be employed to mitigate the circumstances of

the extreme condition.

The intent of this section is to apply the adjustment to the raw data obtained by the flow test and

not to apply adjustments to values that have already been adjusted by water utilities. If a water

utility has already provided flow and pressure data for use in the design of fire protection

systems that already include adjustments for daily and seasonal water usage, there is no need to

make any additional adjustments to this data.

A.5.1.3.1.4

See A.5.1.3.1.3.

A.5.1.3.1.6

Water utilities are the entities that know their own supplies the best and know what appropriate

adjustments need to be made to flow test data to provide reasonable fire protection. In a situation

in which the water utility will not make a definite statement about an adjustment, the fire

protection engineer would supply such a statement about adjustments to the raw data from a flow

test.

Due to the level of judgment involved in making such a decision, licensing laws in most of the

United States require the fire protection engineer to make this determination rather than the fire

protection system contractor. It is expected that the engineer would make these statements in the

specifications provided to the fire protection system contractor. In the absence of any

information from any authority, 5.1.3.2 provides a standardized method of making a decision.

A.5.1.3.2

Subsection 5.1.3.2 provides a standardized method of making a decision regarding the reduction

of the results from a waterflow test to determine what pressure and flow are available from a

water supply when the specifying engineer and the water utility have not provided adjustment

information. An example of using this standardized method is the following:

If a waterflow test is conducted at a location where a city water main is going to be tapped for a

new sprinkler system, and the static pressure is measured at 70 psi, with the residual pressure

measured at 50 psi while 1300 gpm was discharging from a nearby hydrant. If there is no

information from the specifying engineer or water utility about appropriate adjustments, the

value of the static pressure and residual pressure need to be reduced by 5 percent.

The static pressure would be adjusted from 70 psi to 66.5 psi (70 x 0.95 = 66.5).

The residual pressure at 1300 gpm would be reduced from 50 psi to 47.5 psi (70 x 0.95 = 47.5).

The results would be plotted on log 1.85 graph paper, as shown in the lower curve on Figure

A.5.1.3.2. That curve would represent what the fire protection system contractor could use for a

fire protection system.

Figure A.5.1.3.2 Available Water Supply Curve Example.


5.2.1 Private Fire Service Mains.Hydraulic calculations shall show that the main is able to supply the total demand at the appropriatepressure for systems with multiple hydrants .



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The current wording appears to infer that pressures and flow are not material for single firehydrant installations. A 6" line may be completely insufficient to supply a single hydrant at the endof a long dead end with a high fire flow condition. The PC removes the multiple hydrant constraint.

ResponseMessage:Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 5.2.1]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.


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Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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5.3.2 Where meters are required, they shall be listed for fire protection service .



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

It is important to indicate the listing needs to be for fire protection. The word "service" wasadded to the proposed language in PC-6 for consistency with the remainder of the standard.

ResponseMessage:Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 5.3.2]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.


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Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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Second Revision No. 7-NFPA 24-2014 [ Section No. 5.9.2.4 ]

5.9.2.4 Non-threaded Nonthreaded couplings shall be permitted where required by the AHJ.

Non-threaded couplings shall be listed for use as permitted in 5.9.2.4 .

5.9.2.4.1 Nonthreaded couplings shall be listed.



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The two separate provisions should be written in two separate sections. Additionally, as writtenin the First Draft Report, the second sentence of Section 5.9.2.4 is referring to its own sectionnumber.

ResponseMessage:Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 5.9.2.4]Public Comment No. 13-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 5.9.2.4]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.


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Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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5.9.4.4 The automatic drip shall be permitted to be buried where permitted by the AHJ.



Committee Statement

Committee Statement: This language is being deleted because it is already in Section 5.9.4.2.1.Response Message:Public Comment No. 8-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 5.9.4.4]Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 24-2014 [Chapter 5]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.


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Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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6.2.1 A valve in accordance with Section 6.1 shall be installed in each pipeline from each water supply.6.2.1.1 Control valves shall not be installed in the piping from the fire department connection to the point itconnects to the fire service main.6.2.1.2 Control valves shall be permitted in the system piping downstream of the fire department connection.



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Modified the wording to indicate that the valve downstream of the FDC can only be insystem piping.

Response Message:Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 6.2.1]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.


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Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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10.1.4.1* Underground piping shall be permitted to extend into the building through the slab or wall not more than24 in. (0.6 m).


File Name DescriptionSR-14_A.10.1.4.1.docx edited



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The standard allows PVC underground piping to enter a building to supply the sprinkler systeminside a building. The concerns of this approach include: 1. Weight of the spinkler riser on the PVCpipe - is it tested for vertical loading in this regard 2. Incompatibility with various chemicals, includingfloor coatings - the Arrangement section in NFPA 13 no longer seems to adequately address thatpotential concern. 3. Potential to exposure from sunlight. These concerns should be addressedwhere applicable. This language was proposed for the body of NFPA 13, but has been relocated tothe annex of NFPA 24 as these concerns may not apply for every project, but rather should beconsidered on a case by case basis.

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A.10.1.4

Where nonmetallic underground piping is provided above grade or inside a building, the following

should be considered:

2.1. Exposure from direct rays of sunlight

3.2. Compatibility with chemicals such as floor coatings and termiticides/insecticides

4.3. Support of piping and appurtenances attached thereto (e.g., sprinkler risers, backflow

preventers…etc)

Formatted: Font: Bold


10.2.1.3 Approved fittings shall be permitted to be used.



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

There are available fittings on the market that are listed or are in accordance with Table10.2.1.1. This section allows practically anything as long as it is approved.

ResponseMessage:Public Comment No. 10-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 10.2.1.3]

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Second Revision No. 10-NFPA 24-2014 [ Section No. 10.4.2.1.7.1 ]

10.4.2.1.7.1 Heat tracing not listed for underground use shall be permitted when piping is installed in accordance with10.4.2.2.5 10.1.4.



Committee Statement

Committee Statement: I believe this is the correct section to reference.Response Message:Public Comment No. 11-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 10.4.2.1.7.1]

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Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.


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Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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10.5.1.1* The requirement of 10.6.8 10.5.1 shall not preclude the bonding of the underground piping to the lightningprotection grounding system as required by NFPA 780 in those cases where lightning protection isprovided for the structure.



Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Editorial correction. The reference was not revised during the Chapter 10 rewrite.Response Message:Public Comment No. 12-NFPA 24-2014 [Section No. 10.5.1.1]

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10.10.1 Approval of Underground Piping.


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The installing contractor shall be responsible for the following:

(1) Notifying the AHJ and the owner's representative of the time and date testing is to be performed

(2) Performing all required acceptance tests

(3) Completing and signing the contractor's material and test certificate(s) shown in Figure 10.10.1

Figure 10.10.1 Sample of Contractor's Material and Test Certificate for Underground Piping.


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Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The modifications made in SR 12 require this statement to be modified for correlation.Response Message:

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Second Revision No. 12-NFPA 24-2014 [ Section No. 10.10.2.1.3 ]

10.10.2.1.3 The minimum rate of flow shall be not less than one of the following: in accordance with Table10.10.2.1.3 .

Hydraulically calculated water demand flow rate of the system, including any hose requirements

Maximum flow rate available to the system under fire conditions

Table 10.10.2.1.3 Flow Required to Produce Velocity of 10 ft/sec (3 m/sec) in Pipes

Nominal Pipe Size Flow Rate

in. mm gpm L/min

2 51 100 37921⁄2 63 150 5683 76 220 8334 102 390 1,476 14765 127 610 2,309 23096 152 880 3,331 33318 204 1,560 1560 5,905 5905

10 254 2,440 2440 9,235 923512 305 3,520 3520 13,323

10.10.2.1.3.1 Where the flow rates established in Table 10.10.2.1.3 are not attainable, the maximum flow rateavailable to the system shall be acceptable.



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

This section was reviewed by the NFPA 24 Flushing Task Group. Matching the hydraulic calculationdemand is an unreasonable option, and the annex note A.10.10.2.1.3(2) gives support to this. Therequirement for flushing of the underground is not intended to be a means of proving the watersupply is available at the time of installation. Some system hydraulically calculated water demandflow rates may be low enough that achieving that flow would not result in flushing any debris

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* Flow in accordance with Table 10.10.2.1.3


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Second Revision No. 18-NFPA 24-2014 [ Section No. A.5.1.2 ]

A.5.1.2 An adjustment to the waterflow test data to account for the following should be made, as appropriate:

Daily and seasonal fluctuations

Possible interruption by flood or ice conditions

Large simultaneous industrial use

Future demand on the water supply system

Other conditions that could affect the water supply


Submitter Full Name: [ Not Specified ]Organization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Fri Jun 20 11:58:33 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

This section suggesting water supply adjustments is being removed in favor of mandatorylanguage in Chapter 5 for making an adjustment to waterflow data. See SR 17 for the exactlanguage.

ResponseMessage:

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Affirmative AllBiggins, James B.


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Brown, Phillip A.Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Glumac, Tanya M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Olson, Shawn C.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.

Negative with CommentAsp, Roland A. If SR-17 (Waterflow test data adjustment) does not pass ballot, the language of A.5.1.2 should remain in theannex of the standard.


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1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

To: NFPA Technical Committee on Private Water Supply Piping Systems


Date: September 30, 2014

Subject: NFPA 291 Second Draft TC FINAL Ballot Results (A2015 Cycle)


31 Members Eligible to Vote 4 Not Returned (Glumac, Mowrer, Olson, Sanchez) 27 Affirmative on All Revisions

0 Negatives 0 Abstentions The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the explanation of the vote for each second revision.


(1) Example for Simple Majority: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members, 11 affirmative votes are required to pass ballot. (Sample calculation: 20 members eligible to vote ÷ 2 = 10 + 1 = 11)


return their ballot and 2 members abstained, the number of affirmative votes required would be 12. (Sample calculation: 20 members eligble to vote – 1 not returned – 2 abstentions = 17 x 0.66 = 11.22 = 12 )


Second Revision No. 1-NFPA 291-2014 [ Global Comment ]

Revise the metric values throughout the standard to follow the soft conversions provided by the metrictask group.


File Name DescriptionMetrification_AUT-PRI.xlsx


Submitter Full Name: Matthew KlausOrganization: National Fire Protection AssocStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 08 07:01:02 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

For the 2016 edition of NFPA 13, the technical committees responsible for the standard chose tomove from hard conversions to soft conversions. NFPA 291 is considered part of the sprinkler projectand therefore also will move to a soft conversion.

ResponseMessage:

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Not ReturnedGlumac, Tanya M.Mowrer, David S.Olson, Shawn C.Sanchez, Daniel

Affirmative AllAsp, Roland A.Biggins, James B.Brown, Phillip A.


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Charrette, James A.Chen, Flora F.Clark, Jr., Stephen A.Dudley, Jeffry T.Ellis, Byron E.Frakes, Brandon W.Fuller, David B.Gagnon, Robert M.Hayward, LaMarHebenstreit, JeffLaguna, Alan R.Lake, JohnLarsen, MichaelMaddry, James M.Maughan, Kevin D.Morgan, Bob D.O'Dell, Dale H.Ramos, MartinSchifiliti, James R.Schwab, Peter T.Sheppard, J. WilliamSu, Chen-HsiangTwele, Scott M.Wagoner, Kenneth W.


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1/4 6 L gal 1 gal = 3.785 L


1/2 15 dm3 gal 1 gal = 3.785 dm3

3/4 20 Pa psi 1 psi = 6894.757 Pa

1 25 bar psi 1 psi = 0.0689 bar

1 1/4 32 Pa --> bar - 1 bar = 1E5 Pa

1 1/2 40

1 3/4 45


2 1/2 65 m ft 1 ft = 0.3048 m

3 80 m in 1 in = 0.0254 m

3 1/2 90 mm in 1 in = 25.4 mm

4 100

5 125


8 200 m2 ft2 1 ft2 = 0.0929 m2

10 250 m2 in2 1 in2 = 0.0006452 m2

12 300 mm2 in2 1 in2 = 645.15 mm2

14 350 m3 ft3 1 ft3 = 0.02832 m3

16 400 mm3 in3 1 in3 = 16387 mm3

18 450

20 500



g oz. 1 oz = 28.35 g



Length

Area, Volume

Other


1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

To: NFPA Technical Committee on Residential Sprinkler Systems


Date: October 16, 2014

Subject: NFPA 13D Second Draft TC FINAL Ballot Results (A2015 Cycle)


30 Members Eligible to Vote

1 Not Returned (Dannaway)

28 Affirmative on All Revisions

3 Affirmative with Comment on one or more Revisions (Deegan, Feid, Schwab)

1 Negatives on one or more Revisions (Deegan)

0 Abstentions

The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the explanation of

the vote for each second revision.


(1) Example for Simple Majority: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members, 11 affirmative votes

are required to pass ballot. (Sample calculation: 20 members eligible to vote ÷ 2 = 10 + 1 = 11)


return their ballot and 2 members abstained, the number of affirmative votes required would be 12. (Sample

calculation: 20 members eligble to vote – 1 not returned – 2 abstentions = 17 x 0.66 = 11.22 = 12 )


Second Revision No. 14-NFPA 13D-2014 [ Global Comment ]

Revise the metric values throughout the standard to follow the soft conversions provided by themetric task group


File Name Description13_Metrification_-_AUT-RSS.xlsx metric conversions


Submitter Full Name: Matthew KlausOrganization: National Fire Protection AssocStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Fri Jun 20 12:12:59 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The conversions proposed for the 2016 edition will be based on a soft conversion scheme asopposed to the traditional hard conversion. The attached spreadsheet provides the proposedconversion.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results




Not ReturnedDannaway, Samuel S.

Affirmative AllBell, Kerry M.Benn, FredBittenbender, Jonathan C.Bradley, Frederick C.


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Brown, Phillip A.Deegan, Thomas G.Feid, JeffreyFlancher, Dawn M.Haagensen, Dana R.Hoover, Tonya L.Hopkins, MarkHunter, Jerry R.Isman, Kenneth E.Johnson, Gary L.Leyton, Stephen M.Nickson, Ronald G.O'Brian, MichaelOrlowski, StevenPilette, Maurice M.Puchovsky, Milosh T.Pugsley, Scott C.Schwab, Peter T.Skare, Eric J.Skinner, Timothy J.Stanley, George W.Van Walraven, EdVictor, Terry L.Webb, Ronald N.Yu, Hong-Zeng


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1/4 6 L gal 1 gal = 3.785 L


1/2 15 dm3 gal 1 gal = 3.785 dm3

3/4 20 Pa psi 1 psi = 6894.757 Pa

1 25 bar psi 1 psi = 0.0689 bar

1 1/4 32 Pa --> bar - 1 bar = 1E5 Pa

1 1/2 40

1 3/4 45


2 1/2 65 m ft 1 ft = 0.3048 m

3 80 m in 1 in = 0.0254 m

3 1/2 90 mm in 1 in = 25.4 mm

4 100

5 125


8 200 m2 ft2 1 ft2 = 0.0929 m2

10 250 m2 in2 1 in2 = 0.0006452 m2

12 300 mm2 in2 1 in2 = 645.15 mm2

14 350 m3 ft3 1 ft3 = 0.02832 m3

16 400 mm3 in3 1 in3 = 16387 mm3

18 450

20 500



g oz. 1 oz = 28.35 g



Length

Area, Volume

Other

Second Revision No. 1-NFPA 13D-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.3 ]

2.3.3 ASTM Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM A 53 ASTM A53/A53M , Standard Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated,Welded and Seamless, 2010 2012 .

ASTM A 135 ASTM A135/A135M , Standard Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe,2009 (2004) .

ASTM A 234 ASTM A234/A234M , Standard Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel andAlloy Steel for Moderate and High Temperature Service, 2010 2013 e1 .

ASTM A 795 ASTM A795/A795M , Standard Specification for Black and Hot-Dipped Zinc-Coated(Galvanized) Welded and Seamless Steel Pipe for Fire Protection Use, 2008 2013 .

ASTM B 32 ASTM B32 , Standard Specification for Solder Metal, 2008.

ASTM B 43 ASTM B43 , Standard Specification for Seamless Red Brass Pipe, 2009.

ASTM B 75 ASTM B75 /B75M , Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Tube, 2002 2011 .

ASTM B 88 ASTM B88 , Standard Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube, 2009.

ASTM B 251 ASTM B251 , Standard Specification for General Requirements for Wrought SeamlessCopper and Copper-Alloy Tube, 2010.

ASTM B 813 ASTM B813 , Standard Specification for Liquid and Paste Fluxes for Soldering Applicationsof Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube, 2010 (2010) .

ASTM B 828 ASTM B828 , Standard Practice for Making Capillary Joints by Soldering of Copper andCopper Alloy Tube and Fittings, 2002.

ASTM F 437 ASTM F437 , Standard Specification for Threaded Chlorinated Poly (Vinyl Chloride) (CPVC)Plastic Pipe Fittings, Schedule 80, 2009.

ASTM F 438 ASTM F438 , Standard Specification for Socket-Type Chlorinated Poly (Vinyl Chloride)(CPVC) Plastic Pipe Fittings, Schedule 40, 2009.

ASTM F 439 ASTM F439 , Standard Specification for Socket-Type Chlorinated Poly (Vinyl Chloride)(CPVC) Plastic Pipe Fittings, Schedule 80, 2009 2013 .

ASTM F 442 ASTM F442/F442M , Standard Specification for Chlorinated Poly (Vinyl Chloride) (CPVC)Plastic Pipe (SDR-PR), 2009 2013 e1 .

ASTM F 876 ASTM F876 , Standard Specification for Crosslinked Polyethylene (PEX) Tubing, 2011 2013e1 .


Submitter Full Name: Matthew KlausOrganization: National Fire Protection AssocStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Jun 19 13:34:11 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: standards date updates


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Response Message:Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 13D-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3]Public Comment No. 29-NFPA 13D-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3]

Ballot Results





Affirmative AllBell, Kerry M.Benn, FredBittenbender, Jonathan C.Bradley, Frederick C.Brown, Phillip A.Deegan, Thomas G.Feid, JeffreyFlancher, Dawn M.Haagensen, Dana R.Hoover, Tonya L.Hopkins, MarkHunter, Jerry R.Isman, Kenneth E.Johnson, Gary L.Leyton, Stephen M.Nickson, Ronald G.O'Brian, MichaelOrlowski, StevenPilette, Maurice M.Puchovsky, Milosh T.Pugsley, Scott C.Schwab, Peter T.Skare, Eric J.Skinner, Timothy J.Stanley, George W.Van Walraven, EdVictor, Terry L.Webb, Ronald N.Yu, Hong-Zeng


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Second Revision No. 13-NFPA 13D-2014 [ Section No. 4.5 ]

4.5* Documentation.Documentation shall be available provided upon request to ensure adequate demonstrate that the watersupply, listed devices, and adequate sprinkler coverage have been addressed comply with therequirements of this standard .



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The word adequate is difficult to enforce. The revised language makes the section moreenforceable.

Response Message:

Ballot Results





Affirmative AllBell, Kerry M.Benn, FredBittenbender, Jonathan C.Bradley, Frederick C.Brown, Phillip A.Feid, JeffreyFlancher, Dawn M.Haagensen, Dana R.Hoover, Tonya L.Hopkins, MarkHunter, Jerry R.


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Isman, Kenneth E.Johnson, Gary L.Leyton, Stephen M.Nickson, Ronald G.O'Brian, MichaelOrlowski, StevenPilette, Maurice M.Puchovsky, Milosh T.Pugsley, Scott C.Schwab, Peter T.Skare, Eric J.Skinner, Timothy J.Stanley, George W.Van Walraven, EdVictor, Terry L.Webb, Ronald N.Yu, Hong-Zeng

Affirmative with CommentDeegan, Thomas G. Affirmative with Comment – I agree with the intent of this change but adding the words “..and applicable listings.”should probably be included after the word “standard”.


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Second Revision No. 2-NFPA 13D-2014 [ Section No. 5.1.1.1 ]

5.1.1.1* Where a sprinkler is removed from a fitting or welded outlet, it shall not be reinstalled except as permittedby 5.1.1.1.1.5.1.1.1.1 Dry sprinklers shall be permitted to be reinstalled, where they are not removed by applying torque at thepoint where the sprinkler is attached to the barrel when removed in accordance with the manufacturer’sinstallation and maintenance instructions .



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The first draft language eliminates the possibility of removing dry sprinklers with a head wrencheven if the manufacturer recommends it. At least one manufacturer recommends installing andremoving their dry sprinklers with a head wrench. The wording has been modified to allow the useof a head wrench if the manufacturer recommends it.

ResponseMessage:Public Comment No. 26-NFPA 13D-2014 [Section No. 5.1.1.1]Public Comment No. 27-NFPA 13D-2014 [Section No. A.5.1.1.1.1]

Ballot Results





Affirmative AllBell, Kerry M.Benn, FredBittenbender, Jonathan C.Bradley, Frederick C.


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Brown, Phillip A.Deegan, Thomas G.Feid, JeffreyFlancher, Dawn M.Haagensen, Dana R.Hoover, Tonya L.Hopkins, MarkHunter, Jerry R.Isman, Kenneth E.Johnson, Gary L.Leyton, Stephen M.Nickson, Ronald G.O'Brian, MichaelOrlowski, StevenPilette, Maurice M.Puchovsky, Milosh T.Pugsley, Scott C.Schwab, Peter T.Skare, Eric J.Skinner, Timothy J.Stanley, George W.Van Walraven, EdVictor, Terry L.Webb, Ronald N.Yu, Hong-Zeng


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Second Revision No. 4-NFPA 13D-2014 [ Section No. 5.1.2.1 ]

5.1.2.1 Tanks, expansion tanks, gauges, pumps, hangers, waterflow detection devices, and valves shall not berequired to be listed.



Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Gauges are not always required but when they are utilized, should not be required to belisted.

Response Message:Public Comment No. 10-NFPA 13D-2014 [Section No. 5.1.2.1]

Ballot Results





Affirmative AllBell, Kerry M.Benn, FredBittenbender, Jonathan C.Bradley, Frederick C.Brown, Phillip A.Deegan, Thomas G.Feid, JeffreyFlancher, Dawn M.Haagensen, Dana R.Hoover, Tonya L.Hopkins, Mark


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Hunter, Jerry R.Isman, Kenneth E.Johnson, Gary L.Leyton, Stephen M.Nickson, Ronald G.O'Brian, MichaelOrlowski, StevenPilette, Maurice M.Puchovsky, Milosh T.Pugsley, Scott C.Schwab, Peter T.Skare, Eric J.Skinner, Timothy J.Stanley, George W.Van Walraven, EdVictor, Terry L.Webb, Ronald N.Yu, Hong-Zeng

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